>>106643 I always have a good time here so thanks for everything! Also, good luck on your professional career.

>>106662 >Good luck on your new job Ver!

>>106643 Thanks for taking care of this place and good luck with your career! New BO, are you willing to organize the email list for downloads still, or shall I figure something else out?

>>106726 I'm not entirely sure what's the plan, but we can arrange it. Let's reiterate it, you want a way to confirm if interested parties are legit and be sent the membership letters?

>>106742 Yep. Basically what was done for the old watchalongs and archives for paid things here. People post a throwaway email and you check that they've posted before and aren't shitposters. I can always handle the actual emailing part if needed, just want to try to gatekeep it a bit by trying to limit it to actual fans.

>>106757 Very well, I can forward the link of archive. Let me know when everything is ready and I will post an email on /nijimale/ so the interested parties can mail it with a No. of their post for me to verify.

>>106643 otsu and good luck in life! i've always enjoyed my time here, lurking before the migration, and posting afterwards. thanks for taking this space and making it a mostly calm, enjoyable space for us.

>>106643 thanks for taking care of the place and for everything thats been done for the community

>>106786 You can start gathering emails whenever you'd like. I believe he's not posting the final membership stuff until right before the graduation stream and trying to coordinate during that might be hard. That gives people a bit more time to respond as well.

>>106643 Cheers. I wish you luck recovering from our autism. Be sure to leave the door to your merch stash unlocked while you're at work, for no particular reason.

>>106643 Thank you for everything BO and good luck on your new journey! Feeling a bit sad but at least we got a proper graduation with you unlike whatever happened to the first BO.

>>106643 Missed out on you leaving over all the stuff that was happening, my bad. This board gave me space to rest and talk about the streams in peace. It gave me a space to vent and share pains about my oshi without worrying about being harassed and mocked. I dunno about overall board activity, but I have a feeling I was the second one after you as there were days when I posted all alone in the thread. I'm sorry for tormenting you with my crashouts and overall bad behaviour. Still, besides all of that, you were understanding and gave me chances to stay, and I'm grateful for that, even though I feel I didn't deserve that much tolerance that you gave me. I'm not as much of a fan as you are, far from it. I can't buy any merch or VPs and I only membered to few livers at the moment, so I can't have much say when it comes to being a Niji fan. Still, I'm happy to be here, to watch streams and discuss them. I know you aren't dying and I'm probably being overdramatic, but still, I just wanted to say that I'm really grateful for everything you've done in the past 2 years and I really respect you. Thank you. Hope you'll get some rest and still be able to livepost some streams, whenever you have time to do so

>>106643 I came after the 4chan hack, but thank you for creating this space. Ironically, being here helped me get into Nijisanji the past few weeks because there wasn't constant misinformation and shitposters being allowed to infest the board. I'm not going to pretend i've been here for a long time or know you too well, but I will say thank you for creating this space and making it a great place for Niji fans and newcomers alike to talk without having to worry about someone taking a dump on their fun.

>>106643 Thank you BO for everything, hope for the best with you! Hope we can still see you around here.

>>106643 Thanks for taking care of the board these last few years. Good luck in your career.

Its off topic but I guess it fits the more /meta/ discussion. I'm pretty impressed that this is one of 8chan's fastest boards, at least according to the site's landing page.

>>110985 only decent place to talk anonymously about nijisanii

>>110985 Oh it always has been like that actually, we were always on the top even before the migration which gained us a certain popularity and got us invited to some board wide events though we also don't mesh well that much with the other anons in other boards so it also has gained us the title of hermits

while I enjoy the site I still do find that warnings and bans are sometimes unwarranted, especially when they're in response to someone else.

>>117138 Moderating is a hard balance to strike. I think blatant number talk, conspiracy theories on contracts, wanting them to pander to parasocial people that drop them for collabing cross-gender, and generally making stuff up about how Nijisanji works shouldn't be kosher. American anon who got warned is throwing a fit on half chan about it, none of that stuff is ever in good faith.

>>117203 No I'm the American anon and I can promise I am not the one throwing the fit. Im watching aia in her 33rd expedition. None of the talk in the thread where warnings were issues mentioned contracts, conspiracy theories, pandering to parasocial people or anything of the sort. The conversation I got warned for replying to went >"People should have known going into Niji they'd debut a lot of livers right away and if livers all did the same stuff it's cuz they were lazy" When I said >By 2021 JP stopped spamming debuts and had slowed down to 1-2 waves per year and the livers who attempted to create original content experienced delays that cost them literally thousands of dollars I was warned because somehow mentioning things that are livers themselves have mentioned in the past was considered shit flinging. A post replying to my reply mentioned that things had changed and I even said >Yes they have but the original problems came from management being too thinly spread due to acceleration I was warned for that as well. These are things that the livers have acknowledged themselves. Warning people or banning them for bringing up things that livers themselves have talked about or hinted at is kinda dumb.

>>117236 Ngl i read a few of the posts and it looked like everyone in the conversation was just discussing for the sake of it because they reached an agreement and wanted to keep discussing afterwards because you were bored or something, you guys even said "ok last post" like 3 times, i'm not gonna say you broke the rules because that is not for me to decide but going on about the "what ifs" FOR HOURS was certainly shitting the thread while we were just trying to talk about streams, i dunno, like i said, go watch streams or get a hobby instead of arguing for hours with people online, Jesus fucking Christ

>>117236 Well the same talking points that were brought up here are being brought up on there word for word, including music perms that ignore that the labels are in control of that, or that equivocating original work with spending money and being ignorant of the fact that covers and video games weren't much of a focus in early Nijisanji and they differentiated themselves well. And the warning screenshot is getting replies calling it rightful action for basically being framed like catalog posts, you can understand my confusion. 117112 was about parasocial pandering and was warned. The contract tariff nonsense was the other day. With the slow down you mentioned as if there was a whole program already set up, but Lazulight came out before VTA was even announced, let alone that they came from EN auditions five months before that. "I'm just bringing up what the livers said" doesn't really hold water if the way it's talked about isn't considered, and we've had anons bring up Selen and Pomu nonsense, Zaion came up in that convo even, when it's painfully clear people often can't communicate with staff or their fan bases with riling people up. Rosemi is a wonderful entertainer, but to bring her up as if she can even get through a massage without fumbling it and blaming the masseuse, or making her Tekken tourney team feel like shit by saying she doesn't care if they win when she got in to a downward spiral, is needless infantalizing at best. Livers are adults, treat them as fallible, management has issues and corporations are inherently a mess, but aren't some sort of faceless mob that are the stand-in for copyright or music industry. Send a well considered letter or something, because I wholeheartedly agree with the warnings given here.

>>117254 Of course they're not in charge of music perms what they are in charge of is sending the stuff out for final approval which is something they delayed and delayed and delayed until they eventually lost the perms all together because it had sat there for so long. People are of course going to bring it up because it's one of those things that you can easily point to and go "yeah that really was an issue, wasn't it" Yes, I did bring up VTA because that is something that exists in JP and was at least part of the reason that they slowed down. That being said even without that, out of curiosity how many waves do you think that JP debuted in 2021? I'll tell you Rosemi is very competent, she lives on her own and has for years now, worked two jobs before joining where she was praised by the people around her and also finished college before joining. She has made original projects by herself and was one of the few people to make an original song in EN, I think she was actually the second person in en to do so. On her anniversary stream she talked about how excited she was to show it off and it being done but just waiting on approval. You sit here acting like she's incompetent when she has always put in a shit load of effort to her projects. honestly speaking your infantilization of her is disappointing to see.

>>117270 VTA literally wasn't why they slowed down, I spelled out the timing explicitly. One wave in 2020 and one in 2021, I've been watching JP since early on and seen every Rosemi stream, I know the work she's put in. I'm saying that to act as if livers communicate well without being vague and how blame always without fail ends up being seen as a management boogeyman where even fucking 4chan thinks your talking points are catalog bait is pretty blatantly clear at this point. I stand by this site's mods and their decisions and think you're arguing without merit and not caring when it's pointed out that you don't know what you're talking about.

>>117280 I decided that I would go and see myself, what you were referring to. That post has eight replies, two of which call the post a shit post and from the catalog. The other 6 are either in agreement or neutral. No, VTA was not explicitly the reason that they slowed down. You're right. But by 2020 even they had slowed down. Between 2020 and 2022, There were a total of three waves. So do tell me why it is that it is considered shit stirring to point out that people, even those who are familiar with JP might not be expecting to have 5 debuts within 2-3 months of each other? I'm afraid that when multiple people say the same thing and vouch that this thing happened, it probably happened. In the case of perms, multiple people talked about how slow management was to get back to them because management was so thinly spread. I guess that you don't believe Rosemi when she talks about it but I guess that all of Lazulight and Ethyria are also incompetent and just out to uhhhh hurt the company or something....... This conversation is ridiculous

>>117295 You can't read, or are you delusional? The replies to the screenshot throwing a fit were; #1 based janny, #2 you got banned for being catalog tier, #3 still seething, #4 mistaken for Selen convo from how unclear it was, #5 you're pathetic, #7 jannies were right that's catalog tier, #8 calling it shit-stirring. How is that six people neutral or in agreement? This site should strive to have better standards than 4chan, and I appreciate the mods here for actually moderating. If Nijisanji JP, and Hololive and Holostars JP, who apparently are the only that matter to the English audience, all had debuts at least that fast to establish themselves, I think it makes sense to think that is a silly reason to get fed up with watching the EN branch. In the case of people like Pomu or Selen or Nina, then ya absolutely. Please tell me how the latter can think she's getting ripped off by not getting paid for merch when she sees it in a store as if that wasn't ordered in advance in bulk a while ago and think that's in good faith? Management was spread thin, ya, people have frustrations many of which are understandable, I simply take things with a grain of salt when they're vague as to the actual reasoning, and as the EN thread recently showed Wilson and Enna saying, people overspeculate and get mad on their behalf based on that.

>>117302 You're right I didn't read. That is on me. I don't spend time anymore on that site. Which is part of the reason that's so frustrating to be accused of posting it there when I didn't. I have no idea what the second half of your post is even referring to. What I do know is that to mention how thinly spread management was, and then be told that that's somehow shit stirring, when there has been acknowledgment that things have since changed and had gotten better is ridiculous. The Anon that I responded to kind of insinuated that livers who did not produce original content were lazy, now I have a problem with that. The anon that I responded to, said that people should expect multiple waves all at once because that's how Niji operates. To debunk both of these posts, I mentioned that JP had slowed down hardcore, literally three waves within 2 years. There is no rhyme or reason to believe that they would have done what they did in 2018 and 2019 in 2021 in a completely new environment where they weren't the leaders. That people largely weren't familiar with JP regardless though because JP clips didn't go viral, even the ones that did have less than 200k views 5 years later. I also pointed out that livers who did try to make original content face massive delays and a lack of response from management. Which is something that multiple livers have talked about. Including but not limiting to: Elira, Millie, Enna, Rosemi, Pomu, Finana, vox, Ike and I believe Sonny iirc. To pretend like it is all just a misunderstanding and that they're totally weren't a bunch of people who mentioned how thinly spread management was and how it was very difficult to hear back from them in a reasonable time frame, is to ignore multiple people saying that exact thing. None of that is shit stirring. That is all stuff that has been talked about before on stream and that has thankfully improved as they have hired more people.

>>117308 Why is original content usually a paid for always management approval needed thing to you? And the alternative the same video games? In their day to day schedule original work is an expectation and it's an agency based on chatting streams and freeform talking-centric planning content that is done often live to a chat they're interacting with. If someone's bringing up early Nijisanji then it's with good reason, if some rando who dropped EN wasn't aware, at least you should be if you're talking about the history of the group and don't know anything about VTA let alone Iinchou or SEEDS. Please tell me how long in advance you think Koshien is planned, a heavily management supported project nowadays. I'll have you know it's not a quick turnaround. Then you brought up 3D debuts, and that anon mentioned that early JP livers often have waited years for those. I don't care if they weren't the leaders or didn't go clip viral, who the fuck cares about clips. We're in a Nijisanji board, to talk about Nijisanji content, with an understanding of the work they have done and will do.

>>117308 >That is all stuff that has been talked about before on stream Timestamp it then if you're actually a genuine poster and not just shitposting in bad faith

>never livepost >only make 600 word paragraph that can be summed up with pic related >gets warned >goes "surprised pikachu face"

>>117316 Okay, I will walk you through this and then be done. I have written and rewritten responses to this they all end up very lengthy so you'll have to forgive me. 1. >Why is original content a paid for / management approved thing to you The original content comment was in response to somebody saying that if they all played the same games it was because they were lazy. To which I pointed out that no, they played the same games because there was a delay in everything. People attempted to create original content but original content was usually delayed if it was approved at all. The reason everybody played the same games was because there was a spreadsheet of games that they are allowed to play and have permission to play. Using the spreadsheet livers often played the same games because they were games that they knew they had full approval for. 2. >Why bring up 3D Because my statement was that if you're going to debut a bunch of people who all end up playing basically the same thing due to your lack of ability to secure permissions for other things, the least that you could do to keep the audience entertained was promise things like 3d. It would not only keep the fans excited but would keep the livers excited. Mutually beneficial relationship. 3. >Who cares about clips Clips are unfortunately a good way to introduce people who are unfamiliar with your brand into your brand. Clips are largely what allowed HoloEn and by proxy NijiEn to exist. Because there was a lack of push by management to actually introduce people to the JP side, which by the way is still an issue, People had gotten used to a slower debut style where we're talking five members a year. People weren't used to a "watch who you want" type of content. And that includes the people who were applying. Since there was no viral content to really go off of, a lot of people didn't really know anything about the company. A lot of people wouldn't have realized that they were signing up for a branch that was going to debut 20 people in one year. And like I said even if you were familiar with the company you would be unlikely to think that that would happen because A a different company had already kind of established a pace that was widely accepted by the Western community, and B: in Japan where they're based out of, they have largely not done that. Not since 2019. Not since pre-pandemic. I hope this explanation is good enough. >>117330 As far as time stamps go I am a mobile only poster, I have tried before to get timestamps on mobile but I can't seem to figure it out admittedly. If you check through the archives I'm sure that you'll find posts talking about Elira, Pomu and Reimu mentioning covers but they couldn't get approval for after they sent them in because management sat on them for so long. Elira as far as I know has never specified what cover she got delayed, but Pomu mentioned several times that hers was the bunny girl senpai cover. If you watch the Obsydia anniversary stream of 22, Rosemi mentioned her original song was done and hopefully would be releasing soon as it was supposed to be something done by anniversary. It didn't release until September 24th. If you watch the other anniversary stream with the RPG maker she made, towards the end of the stream she mentions that she has asked for it to be approved and then it never did. Like none of this is new information. I will say unfortunately some the stuff mentioned by Millie, like the price of covers and stuff like that is on a membership stream. I can't guarantee that the stream is still up, because you know how she is. But if you look in the archives I'm sure that you'll find it

>>117359 I'm sorry but none of the livers that I like posting about went live today. I would have loved posted Feesh but gacha bores me. I did post about Aia a bit but since I'm interested in the game itself, I admittedly didn't watch too much because I don't want to be spoiled. Scarle cut her hair a few times on stream. She woke up at midnight and did so in order to make sure she was not late for her meeting like she had been the previous day. But it wasn't really a stream that was that captivating either. I don't watch alban but I heard his sims challenge was interesting. Well I could think about was the time that Feesh tried it and didn't even get like four babies in before giving up. Meloco has already ended by the time I got around to tuning in

>>117371 Nobody mentioned laziness as a motivation, there was "if people are streaming the same content at the same time then that's a deeply rooted sign of poor imagination on their part or lack of original ideas. Fuck AAA FOTM video games." The board has frequently talked about wanting more variety in content in video games, TRPG, group projects, chatting only streams, etc. None of which are necessarily stuff that requires waiting to be released or being paid for. This isn't a new convo here. JP projects if they're formalized and having things like prizes or a lot of offloaded organizing do take many months, this isn't news to anyone who has followed them. And the casual ones can be stuff like "guess who is the karaoke werewolf" which takes literally no management processing. Watch some Iinchou and SEEDS or literally any VTA stuff, at least before this recent girl band group. It's not that hard. Why would they speedrun EN 3D debuts over JP ones when most (certainly early on) don't live in Japan, and don't go to visit outside of debuts and concerts. Again, early JP debuts had 3D often after years. They had subbed official clips for JP, a whole boatload of them. That's literally what the Nijisanji EN official channel used to be made up of. You even had management co-arranging Deron showing up in a VShojo collab along with Kizuna AI/Siro/Haneru to raise awareness among the English audience. Again, you don't know anything about JP, and it's not actually endearing saying that livers who were joining didn't even bother to do a basic look at the terrible English VTubing wiki or watch some clips, truly the bare minimum if you're interested in the company beyond a "I didn't get in to Hololive EN/wanted that Luxiem money."

>>117382 You're right the exact words were >"that's a deeply rooted sign of poor imagination on their part or lack of original ideas" my b. Regardless have a good one anon.

>>117387 Have a good one, perhaps watch the 200+ JP liver clips on the EN channel in the mean time, maybe can assuage the idea that there was a lack of management push; https://www.youtube.com/@nijisanji_en/playlists (the "1 min NIJISANJI," "Snack Time," "PUCHISANJI," and most of the "NIJIClip" playlists.) There's probably some English sub added ones on the JP channel that don't overlap too.