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Will this board be sustainable? Anonymous 03/29/2023 (Wed) 07:43:25 No. 309
What is our long term plan for keeping it alive / active?
I post on here, main and the relevant splits depending on the mood I'm in at the time of posting. That's my long-term plan.
>>309 Frankly I think this board will simply always have a place as long as 4chan is plagued by shitposters and other desirables. As long as this thread remains in people's heads as an alternative to post on.
It will be dead within a month or two unfortunately.
I've got a few plans to keep this board alive. Remember that any publicity is good publicity and even people shitting on this board's existence keeps it in the public eye. That's all I'll say on the matter.
>>319 So the plan is to shit on this board so much that people come?
>>323 Part of it. It's very easy to use people's insane hatred for Nijisanji to our advantage.
As a /v/irgin who saw this board suddenly gain traction, could someone please spoonfeed me on what was the catalyst for this board's creation/popularity? I understand that it's about a Vtuber group, but why this one group in particular? Are other groups allowed? Why did you decide to make an entire board dedicated to this one group, and not go to sumglo.li's /a/ or prolikewhoah's /animu/ dedicated threads on VTubers? Was it because you were not aware of those platforms or because you felt it was better to have a dedicated board? With that said, I wish you good luck in having a healthy and active board.
>>329 I think a discord decided that they wanted an imageboard and they're all here now.
>>329 QRD basically posting about this company and their talents in cuckchan is unfavorable compared to Hololive. Doxx, CP, gore and botposting is a daily to prevent people from discussing things in peace and it's all allowed by the jannies there. But in my opinion, having a company only board is an idea at least worth to be tested out. I'm just observing how all this goes down in the meantime.
>>330 >>331 I understand, thank you for the answers. Regarding cuckchan's thread, do you think it's just plain autism or that companies "pay" shills to shit up threads about their competition? Again, I wish you the best of luck in maintaining a board, and if things don't work out, there are general vtuber threads on smugloli and prolikewhoah as a backup plan.
>>337 Thank you bro and the jannies over there...i'm convinced some of them might be shills because they enter a thread, delete a lewd or something and leave all the people shilling another company, the doxx, the shitposters, etc up, but also some of them were known schizos so add that to the list
>>323 >that people come?
>>337 >smugloli and prolikewhoah What the hell are they gonna do in those dead shitty chans, /a/ here has a vtuber thread and a vtuber board too (2 w the spanish one)
>>309 Hi BO, im /av/BO, do you want to be a friend? =]
>>354 >spanish Spic boards aren't worth counting.
Hope you guys aren't too demotivated that this board is a snail's pace compared to 4chang. Despite being this slow we are top 10 most active boards here and we only had like 10 posters or so here.
>>447 I like using it, i actually been watching more VR and got some of the important news in a more direct way since there's no flood of trash messages, also the porn is nice
>>309 Put a link or at least some mention of /here/ in the 4/vt/NijiEn/ thread OP to keep the pph from collapsing. Yes, it'll bring shitters but we'll at least have our own jannies to get rid of them.
>>464 No, in fact don't shill the board over there neither with the stupid "hurr durr everyone's moving to /2434/" because this board is an alternative and not a replacement and if i see any other post of someone trying to bring the shitters here by shilling the thread over there trying to basically ask for people to raid this board then i'm going to have to start giving warnings and then bans
>>464 Don't be addicted to high PPH anon. We're doing just fine for now. In fact I consider the high as fuck activity on 4chan to be completely an unnatural thing on imageboards. Threads aren't supposed to die with bump limit in under 2 hours and the contents of the thread should not be complete gibberish filler nonsense. Just embrace the change of pace anon. You'll get used to it eventually.
>>339 Do not listen to him, Smugloli's moderators are strict as fuck about content posted to their site and prolikewoah is /cow/-tier in their moderation in that they nuke boards and threads as they please for shits and giggles. You're better off remaining here.
>>472 based as long as /vt/ is plagued by the eternal SEA, this splinter will be relevant
>>494 I have gotten banned way to many times for reporting shitposts over there so if ti happens again then i'll just post here during the ban
Honest question. How many people are actually /here/ ? Are we all just samefagging? Is everyone here for the EN thread?
>>537 >How many people are actually /here/? Maybe 20-30 of us? Some people have to go out of their way to find this place, especially since directly mentioning 8chan is filtered over there >Is everyone here for the EN thread? I only heard about this place on the other website's EN thread, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case but it's nice to see the other branch threads are active too.
>>538 I'm actually glad we can have a VR thread here, back in /vt/ it would be raided to hell and back, i'm learning a lot from the VR anon over there
>>309 >Will this board be sustainable? No. Less than a month in and it is already dead, unfortunately.
>>607 Sad to say, people prefer the endless shitposting on /vt/ as opposed to a place where you can discuss Nijisanji vtubers freely. Well, I guess this place could serve as a bunker when 4chan crash again.
>>608 Where are the people who made the board? Didn't the board makers say the they were from a server together or something?
>>609 It was just one dude by himself who pasted the link to here onto the Niji EN general on /vt/. No discords involved.
>>609 You kinda just believed what some shitposter told you, didn't you?
>>607 What a shame. Very sad indeed.
Anons. Would you like to revive the board ourselves? We should post here or start a group chat to plan how to make this board work.
>>626 I don't know. I still check here a few times a day lmao.
>>626 >start a group chat kys
>>630 Ok normalfaggot go back to reddit.
Board needs a culture to start rolling. I recommending things like a webm thread or something, even if it's just one anon spamming alone, eventually there will be two, and three etc.
I don't know why i still check here everyday.
>>658 please post something. anything. even the board owner doesn't post here.
What is this board anyway?
Pretty cool that Alban is getting the girls interested in Zomboid. He should get more of the guys too in addition to Sonny and Wilson.
Would it be useful to have a thread to tabulate /vt/ raids? Unreported, some of these threads just get bumped for hours on end by numbermonkeys, but a handful of reports usually gets a janny to clean it up.
I see the board got revived, while I do hope that you anons will be able to make it a more permanent place now, I do have to wonder what happened this time? Did the 4chan threads get even more toxic, making even more anons decide to take the leap to another imageboard? I am somewhat surprised, but glad, that you haven't gone with the Discord Matrix route.
>>2072 Unironically it's because of the daily raids into a thread that the mods decide to turn into a dumping ground for shitposting, schizos and straight up botposting. Some people got sick of it and they move here.
>>2073 I am sorry to hear it got that bad, hopefully you will be able to stick together.
>>666 Only if they go to this place, what happens on ./vt. is /vt/'s problem.
What's up with the sudden raise in activity? Did cuckchan mods permabanned a general or something or is it just one guy talking to himself while cleaning cookies in every post?
>>2156 Mods literally share a discord server with shitposters and ban on topic posts and posts calling them out for being huge faggots while we have daily raids and bots, we just got tired of it and started using this site again
>>2156 We've experienced raids at the same time of day for the past week and a half and a lot of us just got tired of it >>2072 I'd prefer to stay anonymous for the most part ya know
>>2167 Welp, I'm glad to see more people posting around here, I hope you have a great time, just remember unlike 4chan every board is independent from one another and they have their own mod team and moderation style.
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I kind of like it here. The slower threads make it more comfortable watching a streams while posting and engaging the thread The slower activity also discourages (you) farmers who just want dopamine hits rather than any sort of discussion
>>2509 That and it's nice to have threads devoid of /soc/ shit
>>2530 Yup that really would get out of hand sometimes where we even have regulars posting nudes. It is just another flavor of (you) farming and to become a thread celebrity I think it devolved that way because the thread gets so shit at times, anons use /soc/posting as "therapy" and counteract all the negativity spammed there by being "positive" towards each other. All are problems solved by simply having decent moderation
>>2534 >anons use /soc/posting as "therapy" and counteract all the negativity spammed there by being "positive" towards each other. Are you some kind of therapist anon, what you said absolutely made sense kek thats why I'm neutral about socposting, I agree that its not allowed but I think anons shouldnt get banned if shitposters spew negative bullshit 24/7
If we'll manage to hit like 50 active posters on average, the board will be completely sustainable >But how Just use the same method that moot had used when he just created cuckchan: spread the word about it. Tell your friends that you trust and that like Nijisanji to post here, then tell their friends to do the same etc. The "8chan" boogeyman itself is already a great filter from normalfags and retards, so the probablility of them shitting this place up is low >How about advertisement I wouldn't do that. This will be just a huge green flag for all kind of shitposters and bad actors to raid this place. We need to keep our profile low but not too low, if it makes sense.
>>3184 Honestly, I will take /soc/posting over mentally ill schizoids that samefag for the entire thread and spew the same retarded shit 24/7 for over a year. And yeah, you're right: avatarfags and /soc/posters are not the cause of the thread being shit, they're just symptoms of it. /soc/posters cleansed the thread on multiple occasions and distracted anons from replying and engaging with schizos and shitposters, so take it as some sort of painkiller that makes the thread feel a little better. As you can see, this board has minimum to none /soc/posters and offtopic shit as it lacks schizoids that derail the thread on multiple occasions. >Both are offtopic shit True, but think of it as fighting fire with fire. It works, even if it ultimitely burns down the house.
>>3387 too bad, most anons on the other site consider this place a no go because they think it the same 8chan before
>>3405 Those same anons are the retarded ones that keep biting bait and giving names to shitposters, don't expect them to do basic research
is this the metaposting thread
>>3450 seems like it yeah
>>3405 Most anons there are retards. The ones that have at least 80IQ and don't want to read schizo spergings and offtopic garbage in every single thread are already here. I doubt we'll get any more people from there migrating unless the thread will become completely unusable. We need some new blood from somewhere else.
>>3455 >new blood from somewhere else. cant think of a place to advertise it aside from the other thread as out of all the places that is the only "sane" one
>>3672 What place would that be?
>>3673 the other thread? /NijiEN/?
>>3720 Well yeah you could try that but also the usual shitposters are gonna @everyone in their monkeycord server and tell their buddies to say you're /LOE/schizo, that this site is full of pedos, that we literally eat babies, etc. If you do so be prepared to have a bunch of shitposters argue with you because they don't want to lose the power they have over us, also you have some regulars that already believe those falsehoods
>>3672 i think it'd be fine to advertise it there every few months or so, if there's newfags that grow curious. that or when the shitposting gets too much, though from what i've seen i feel like a lot of the regulars that don't bite the bait just leave and come back when the shitposting dies down
4chong has been having more outages lately, so it's nice to know this place is available and /nijien/ adjacent. captcha might take some getting used to.
>>4161 I like the captcha here, I dont have to fill it in everytime I post, I guess I just hate it when I post here the text box doesnt disappear and I have to manually click the dialogue box lol
Genuine question, has the board's owner tried to do ad campaigns or promotions? I know it might be bad optics and might invite bad actors and raiders, but I don't think it will hurt that much since moderation has been pretty good so far.
>>9842 Ad campaigns where exactly? I'm more convinced at this point that it would be easier to convince the people in twitter to come here instead of the people in /vt/
>>9842 I don't think a banner ad on 4ch would be a good idea. I've tried to tell people that this place exists but most anons treat it with skepticism at best and at worst accuse you of deliberately shitting up the thread to advertise a non profit site.
>>9858 >>9889 I meant outside of 4ch. Honestly, I don't really have idea myself where to start doing ads, but hell, even Twitter would be a fine place for starters
>>9858 >it would be easier to convince the people in twitter to come here instead of the people in /vt/ Not with this site's reputation lmao
>>9951 I'd say the same but vtuber fans are a special breed, not saying that in the good way btw
I sometimes livepost here when I'm not in the right state of mind but liveposting or posting personal thoughts of my oshi on main in the times when the thread is full of shitposters and even having some of them reply to me, the contrast is too entertaining.
>>9972 I mean there's the fujoshi thread, is that not enticing enough to lure in the xwittards?
8chan native here. I only noticed that this board existed today, and judging from the speed of the EN threads, this board is somewhat active. I know that we have a /vt/, but that's spic-only. Where did you guys come from, lovechan? Was there some recent purge over there or something?
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>>10919 We came from there. Board was created by an anon who got sick of the increased shitposting against the EN branch but it died within a couple of months and the original anon is gone now. Things were mostly fine again but another spike in shitposting caused anons to want to give this board another try but now good things seems to be happening to the EN branch along with the shitposting dying down again so activity hear is slowing down once again.
>>10919 I was watching NijiFes and posting about it yesterday if you're interested in some Niji discussion, also a link to Symphonia day 1 was posted, most likely the same link will be used for day 2
>>10922 Yeah, sorry about that but i got sick and tired of that word in /vt/, it's like tranny for /v/ or soy for /pol/
>>10919 Ok i just wanted to check out that board and the Nijisanji thread and it's full of retards, doxx, shitposters and misinformation, holy fuck i hate the latino fanbase so fucking much, also >"Why don't they pander to US?!?!?!?!?" Learn english fucking monkeys
>>10928 I didn't expect that word to be used by 4chan themselves, since that word is often used here to make fun of 4chan. What do you think of the "halfchan" nickname?
>>10931 In /vt/ you'll see it a lot when >Female vtuber and male vtuber collab >Female vtuber talks about male vtuber >Female vtuber talks about taking a break/going on vacation And many more retarded cases. >What do you think of the "halfchan" nickname? As to using it? I think it's ok for you to refer to 4chan as you see fit, i have no love for the site ever since it failed to gatekeep most of the retards in 2016
>>10919 Hey anon, you're more than welcome to use this board if you want, also if you know more people that enjoy Nijisanji feel free to invite them also! We don't have a JP thread yet (since i see you posting JP members) but i think that's because most people that watch them still hands out over at /vt/ since they don't get shitted on as hard as NijiEN, still i think me and some others also enjoy JP streams too
>>10919 Mods on 4chan's /vt/ have extreme bias against Nijisanji and let raiders and schizos shit up the thread non-stop almost every fucking day. None of the shitposting get deleted, you only can put gazillion of filters to clean up 80% of the posts in the thread. Hell, the thread is being raided RIGHT NOW for 2 days non-stop. People just want some kind of refuge from mentally ill retards who will post some kind of schizo remark or will try to spin retarded narrative just from you linking your oshi's Twitter post or trying to livepost the streams.
>>10930 >SEAs ask why vtubers don't pander to them >Latinos aks why vtubers don't pander to them THEY ARE
>>10924 >Good things = shitposters will shit up the thread less LMAO. Reminder that a fucking week long raid after TTT's debut is the reason why this board even revived. Despite only good things happening in the past week, the thread on /vt/ is fucking unusable right now with mentally ill retards spamming about "hotel orgy" after NijIFes
If you guys wondering where you could get new posters to come here, you could try tik tok. Worked for 8/v/. but tiktok vtuber watchers are probably doxfaggots it might not be a good idea for our case
>>11060 Don't remind me, tiktokfags defaulted to the doxx site and helped make the Nina doc
I don't watch many streams but I'm gone from my home for a few weeks and the wifi is ranged banned so I'll livepost a bit more here.
Seeing that one art with elira defending selen during the off collab on the main thread on 4chin is so sad, why did everything become like this...
>>18063 It really all stemmed from the loss of the AR live. Yugo not being there was already a missed opportunity and now this. It's a shame.
Good god they created a thread to disguised their rrat thread, disgusting piece of shit human beings
>>18071 Why do you even go there? If you wanna be miserable there's many other ways to do so
>>18090 Nta but there are still anons who like my oshis there that I can talk to. Usually I'm posting on both sites simultaneously if I'm watching a stream.
>>18091 So? They probably want to be miserable too and you interacting with them there just gives them validation to keep posting there instead of anywhere else better
I didn't realize how bad the official subreddit has gotten and I don't know why I decided to take a look but if we ever need some new blood there's that for a terrible idea kek.
>>20524 I think literally nobody is managing that hellhole, i even sent feedback to Anycolor to tell them it was being used to harass the livers, fans, etc but they don't fucking care
>>20544 I think they already got their hands full on all the fanncords to care about reddit
>>20554 They don't manage those though, not officially at least like the subreddit
>>20544 There's not even any talk about the recent 3d announcement, there are no fans there.
I've just remembered that this meta thread exists, so I hope I can ask BO questions without bothering the main thread. So, um, is it still alowed to make a het porn thread? I know some schizoid tried to make a ship thread already in a bad faith, but I would still like to make one purely for porn. Hope it's not too late at this point
>>85583 I'd rather not, there is not even probably that much material out there to even justify a thread (and the headaches it would bring). If you really want to post them do it in the lewd thread and treat it as an extreme fetish even though it isn't
>>85596 Got it, thanks for the answer
this spot is unironically the best place a niji fan that doesnt want to deal with twitter/reddit should go to
i'll be honest, new board volunteers are fine but i only hope that they'll not be biased towards old posters and vindictive towards newcomers which i fear might happen, i'll hope for the board owner to actually enforce this upon new mods that they should not be biased and act on their personal feelings.
>>86278 They were given rules to follow, as for bans I expect some mishaps to happen but also I am the one lifting bans in case of appeals so I'll be personally looking at each case too
>>86283 the only thing that is important is for them to not act on personal matters, other than that if everyone's abiding by rules it's all fine by me, when do the appeals even appear once you get banned? never did so i have no idea how'd you even appeal, is there an email for a case like that, or?
>>86292 I am not entirely sure because I have never been banned but it'll proably tell you "you were banned for X reason" and that you may appeal for your ban to be lifted, then you write an explanation of what happened and why do you think the ban should be lifted and then I read that and decide on lifting it or denying it. As for contact outside of here there is none by the moment, I might make a separate proton account maybe
>>86302 i think it would be a good idea to have an outside contact appeal aswell as the in site one just in case, atleast in the future if something were to happen. i guess as to see how in site appeals work i'll see one day but hopefully it's not gonna happen
Honestly seeing all the leaks of how kekchan jannies do shit in big boards like /vg/, I don't think you guys have to worry about abusing power and power tripping.
>>86302 Had experience with getting banned before my bad but the appeal works literally the same as long bans on 4chan: you get a notice and a ban appeal form to fill in. tbh BO isn't that strict with bans, he usaully issues 1 - 3 days bans so worst case scenario you can just wait it out
I'd rather have a board like this than to swim between powertripping mods and admins on discord servers, so thank you for keeping this board active
I mention this in the main post but I feel like concerntrolling should be a bannable offense because this is the strategy schizos often does as well if they get ignored enough
>>89115 Sometimes it's just anons being menhera but I kinda agree. It gets worse since other anons respond to it often too
>>89115 It is, it's under shitposting
>>89122 I feel like it doesn’t hurt to make a seperate bullet point for it because some stupid people think they can bypass that as not shitposting (when it is)
>>89115 agreed. gets to a point where once they know it grabs peoples attention they never fail to stop doing it.
Gonna be honest, the NijiEN thread is a mess right now. Understandable because of current revaluations, but I have a feeling some bad actors are trying to fit in tbh.
If I were you I would ban anyone that started posting today in the main thread. /vyt/ was linking /2434/ earlier.
>>90524 I'm taking many things into consideration, might hide the board again just in case too
>>90528 I'm also gonna add to please understand many people are very emotional, understandably so, so they might be posting some stuff out of raw emotions coming out
btw maybe consider banning people trying to armchair analyze any corpos in the thread.
should holo/cover mentions be a bannable offense?
>>90571 Only if off-topic, someone was banned when it became off-topic
can I ask for oot thread something like /friends/ for flesh, indie or corpo friends of NijiEN? I don't wanna go there...
>>91857 I'm sorry but this discussion has been had before and the answer is always no, this is a purely Nijisanji board, also doubly no at a time like this since it would also increase the moderation workload
>>89121 That's why I save my menhera tangents for the splits.
If I needed to report some errors loading images in this board specifically, where would I do that? Thank you. (I also noticed that both this board and /holo/ don't appear to show up in the board index despite the volume of traffic they receive, which I feel is an oversight.)
>>92325 >If I needed to report some errors loading images in this board specifically, where would I do that? Pester the admin on /site/
>>92325 As far as I know there has been some attacks on the servers so it could be that, I've been having problems with posts getting eaten too.
>>92325 You could try swapping between .moe and .se to see if one of them is running better. Site is a bit fucked up because of the huge traffic increase and attacks, so some weirdness is normal. This board, and any other fast board that doesn't show up in the index, are likely hidden to make it harder for bad actors to find. BO will probably undo that eventually, but I think he turned it on again yesterday.
>/vyt/ has a volunteer thats an open anti of the cover male branch yeah this board and its moderation is a godsend. good job, you've gotten me to enjoy vtubing as a hobby again
>>92387 I will do that if it persists. >>92426 That explains some things, as if the traffic influx wasn't enough of an issue. >>92444 That's actually very smart, I appreciate that, and it explains why... certain other boards also don't show up. I'll try swapping between .se as well. Thank you very much for your time. >>92461 That's so unfortunate; a friend of mine is a fan of those boys and /holo/ isn't accepting of them either. They need some space... I am grateful for the mods here keeping things in check, as we attract an above-average share of shitposting.
>>92488 >>92461 This is veering into offtopic even for the meta thread, but I will say that one of the best things about this site is that anyone can make a board and choose how to moderate it. If they are being pushed out of the other boards, they can make a board specifically for stars, or male vtubers in general, and actual fans can be in charge of it. Wouldn't be the first time here someone got fed up with the way a board was run and made their own offshoot. I wish them luck either way. Everyone deserves a place to talk about their interests without being constantly shit on.
>>92444 Yeah, to clarify, board was hidden to give comfydants their time to grieve without bad actors twisting the knife, I will probably unhide it soon but also hide it again when the graduation date approaches
>>91866 Thank you for also adding flags and IDs to deter AWs like the nudeposters and such
>>92528 Genuinely thank you. Really appreciate how considerable you are when it comes to these types of things
>>92528 Oh that's why it's hidden. I was wondering why we were gone again. But fair enough
>>92578 The place has no IDs though, but imo shitposters stick out like a sore thumb anyways so it's not that needed.
Did the site get new hardware or something? I'm suddenly able to post a lot faster on mobile
>>93156 You could say that.
i got warned for /soc/posting and i honestly have no idea what i could've posted that constitutes as that? oh well maybe im dumb and missing a function, but i wish we could see which exact posts we were warned for here
>>93485 You can manually check it in the report logs, top right book icon when you are at the catalogue/index.
>>93504 h...how do i see the deleted posts?
>>93517 I didn't think that far ahead lol
>>93520 How many characters does the warn/ban field allow? Perhaps you guys could copy/paste some or all of the text from the offending post there (assuming it's not blatant shitpost)? But maybe that would kind of defeat the purpose of deleting it in the first place because anyone can see the logs, idk I could not decide which thinking vtuber emote to use so I am posting them all
>>93666 Still thinking of the best way to do it but I'll ask on /site/ about warnings having that, if not we could start doing 1 second bans instead since bans do tell you what post you were banned for (I believe, truly don't know and appreciate if someone knows)
Might have to implement captchas or longer reply times, people keep clicking the reply button thinking they haven't replied already but it's the thread not uploading instantly instead
>>93673 Like captchas for every post? I don't mind it at least until the site and the refresh feature stabilizes.
I got a warning for posting a JP Niji in the EN thread. I understand we have a JP thread, but this was never an issue on 4chan, so I don't see why it has to be an issue here, by this logic I can only talk about Hana in the ID thread.
>>94131 There is a main branch thread for a reason, if you wanted to post JP, ex-KR or ex-ID you can do it there. This isn't 4chan, this is how it was always done and you'll have to adapt
>>94131 > I can only talk about Hana in the ID thread. Been here for 3 years and yes. I liveposted Layla playing Balatro there.
>>94137 Well ok then.
It fucking sucks to having to manually refresh to see new posts.
Posting it here too. >>>/vyt/118604 >>>/vyt/118671 4ch will probably be back soon. I'm uncertain on if I'll stay here or go back. It'll probably dependent on how many people make the move back and if there are any actual improvements.
>>96316 Personally, there is no way I am going back. Even if there is improvement in moderation, we are not welcome there and I doubt our situation will change significantly. I like it here. This board is a breath of fresh air and I feel like I can love nijisanji freely. I like being able to see Enna, Millie, and Reimu being posted ITT without triggering a schizo. I don't care if this place gets slow, its fine. I will miss the funposting and being able to discuss JPs in the same thread, but my peace of mind as fan is worth it.
>>96316 Im gonna be honest if the admins of that place wants to push for it to go back early expect another vulnerability exploit that will lead to another breach. I personally don't recommend going back asap. But that's just my opinion.
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>>94131 You're lucky it's just a warning. /vt/ outright bans you for stupid shit. I've eaten bans for calling people SEAmonkey's, and posting this cosplay. Do you really want to go back to 4chan with Ennaschizo shitting up the thread all hours of the day for years to come? There's tons of shill and bot posts. /v/, and especially /pol/s user base mostly up and vanished. But I know most 4channers, they always go the way which traffic goes to, regardless of how shitty it is. Sadly I might do the same because long ago I held out with 4chon for a long, long time, even when Moot reintroduced /r9k/ and the newly created /pol/.
>>96351 >SEAmonkey Erm It's Millievanta here newfriend
>>96351 Eating a ban for racism is whatever, but the worst is when the mods were actively covering for shitposters by banning people reporting them. How many of those malicious mods got scared off by getting their e-mails exposed remains to be seen, but something tells me it will never be enough.
>>96362 given how dogshit and biased moderation was, i dont doubt that some of them were paid to be malicious about it. people moved here back then and some will probably stay here, but its not an exclusive choice. this place will still be around whether halfchan turns out good or bad
>>96362 I've been banned on /vt/ more times than the rest of 4chan altogether. Worst moderated board on the site. Bunch of Phasenigger jannies.
>look at logs >we got higher iq shitposters that try to blend in now Those are harder to deal with tbh
>>97228 Meh when 4chan comes back they will leave to the easier place to shitpost
>>97228 Not all people that get banned are shitposters, some I just believe they need to chill because when a discussion just becomes a yelling contest it's when a thread gets derailed into oblivion. If someone is outright malicious they do get the perma tho
So any app recommend for 8chan? I hate using mobile browser when I'm using phone.
>>97669 Don't think there is one for now. Maybe the current events will motivate some dev to create one now though.
>>97669 Chance works for browsing but not posting
>>97679 >Chance Got any link? I'm fine with browsing. Also now I'm afraid to talk about Millie in En thread.
>>97706 Thank you mang
>>97702 after it’s confirmed the schizo was still stalking the board I understand your concern…
4kek is back up btw for those who care.
>>98123 Do you guys really want to go back, or do you miss Ennaschizo that much?
If the influx of people goes down from this site then liveposting and posting in general should be like it used to (i hope) so it should be better for posting overall though the performance will still be ass
>>98190 Nah I'm just informing people. >>98192 Honestly I only have performance issues on mobile on a 1000+ post thread but it doesn't outright freeze for me.
I did my part.
>>98225 That chip you have on your shoulder is not going to serve you well going forward.
>>98234 Go back, nothing will ever change there no matter how much you whine for it because the site has everything it wants from you. Your traffic.
>>98236 Yeah, yeah, buddy. Just try not to shit up the other thread any more.
>>98225 Same as I always said, there is there and here is here. Now that it's back I do not care for what people do over there and neither should anybody here nor promote this site there in any way. I allowed people to talk about /vt/ status because I know this board isn't everybody's cup of tea but from now on that's becoming off-topic
It's likely still unsafe to post over there from a security standpoint, if you need yet another reason not to go back.
>>98246 Do what you need to do. It sucks people deride you when you care more for the fanbase than a place that has more malice towards it from the moderation and down. If people want that, they can choose it, even if it seems mental. I have no stake having this board be successful, you can already see my active post history and how prolific of a poster I am from my active posts. It's just disappointing that people don't want better.
>>98251 And it's their decision, don't sweat it too much because I truly do not care if they talk shit about me there
Ngl seeing the quality of the posters over there i'd say we actually kept the good anons...
>>98412 of course. shit stirrers don't want to stay in a place where they can't get their dopamine hits easily
>>98412 >>98416 Since there is logs and this is public info I'm gonna assume it's the people who were passive-aggressive to the girls every now and then and went hard on Reimu and Aia during the Epic watchalong, they were permabanned for shitposting after multiple warnings in the past
I would like to offer some feedback on the site. I am a bit of a long winded autist so you'll have to forgive me. I would like to start by saying that appreciate what you guys do and keeping the board alive. It's not an easy task and I get it, I know for a fact those first few days BO spent them hardly sleeping and trying to moderate at all hours, which was definitely appreciated. That being said, the no /soc/posting rule here is very harshly enforced to the point where I've seen people deleted for replying to compliments on art of Nijisanji Livers. I have seen people deleted for talking about streams, I have seen been warned about "off-topic" for posting about things that remind of certain livers. Several anons have talked about how it's kinda like walking on eggshells because the /soc/posting rule seems to be a way for people to catch unwarranted bans and warnings. While these bans have sometimes been reversed later, it's made a good number of anons feel intimidated to post here because of the strangely harsh enforcement of a rule. I understand that sharing each other's nudes, referring to anons by nicknames they've earned through a avatarfagging and stuff like that has been a problem on the other site and a desire to perhaps nip it in the bud before it starts but it's honestly even put myself in an uncomfortable position. Part of the entire reason ninisani was started was because anons liked having a community together and expressing feelings for their oshis in ways that weren't super conventional but on this board it feels like any sort of attempts to make a community or enjoy stuff other anons do is snuffed out because of a fear of something that hasn't been a problem on here. I would like to reiterate that I'm not telling you guys that I hate it here or that you're not doing a good job or anything like that, but I do think it'd be nice if we could show a bit more leniency in what we determine to be "off-topic" or "soc". I enjoy having a place to talk about livers and I appreciated you guys taking care of the gore issue and the regular schizos posting obvious bait over livers and etc. I know at the end of the day, it is your board to do with as you please and make no mistake, I do appreciate what you guys have done. I just ask for a bit more consideration Thank you
>>98517 I could offer you a community thread to talk between each other freely, my main issue with socposting is that it derails threads but if the topic of the thread is the board community then use that. If not I can tell you the rule wasn't enforced as hardly before, it was mostly due to the volume of people since, and I want this to be understood as well, there is a culture shock when a lot of people migrated over here and what inevitably happens is that the community will evolve a certain way. we have evolved the rules to meet the demands of some of the new people but I also expect the new people to adapt to the style of community we always had since we are the ones welcoming them after all. On a separate note I'm gonna say that "NijiEN for this feel" and "this looks like NijiEN" posts are very much off-topic because I could literally post anything with that pretext. The off-topic/socposting rule will probably be less harsh in the future, hell I already am looking over some of the stuff because people learned to not derail the threads with it.
>>98577 There's going to be a balance on "lurk m0ar" for people to know the culture here is different and loosening up some "strict enforcement" that might just be limited by the toolset. But a line also has to be drawn somewhere so it doesn't devolve into halfchan
>>98412 Think those people will be allowed to run amok in holotower, /2434/, or /vyt/? They're over there because it's the only place they won't get banned as easily. A lot of shit stirrers were promptly filtered out in /vyt/ because of their aggressive posting mannerisms, some broke down to just spamming and haven't been seen for days. Makes me bewildered to why anyone would want to return when you won't eat a ban for reporting trouble makers and they'll eventually fizzle out within a week or less. People are that eager to see Ennaschizo and the few that always reply to them for about half the day? Also how do you think Fulgur'a graduation announcement would have gone down in /vt/?
>>98577 Board Owner, I need some clarification. Around 9 am, mod billhook deleted all the posts related to Millie. May I know if the deleted posts were made by milgur? I want to talk with anons about Millie, but I want to make sure that I don't reply to milgur.
>>98989 If you usually see that many posts disappear like that you can assume that, yes. We can see who he is because he's like a bright torch for any moderator
>>99059 Thank you for answering BO
>>98517 I would take the community thread offer if you are still here anon. I don't know if I would use myself it but I know some anons would appreciate it. I think having that is better than going back. I took a peek earlier for old times sake and my tolerance for bullshit must have deteriorated over the last few days because it gave me a headache
>>99143 Whoever wants to make it is free to do so then, it will be the exception to the socposting rule
this is mostly an interest check, but would anons here think it could be good to try properly starting a niji global general? particularly for some of the refugees we got pretty used to talking about jp livers in the /nijien/ thread, so i figure this would be a logical solution so we could still keep talking about all the livers in one place together. just to be clear i wouldn't necessarily want this to be an immediate replacement for the current /nijien/ here, but an option to see how discussions go organically. i know that the jp threads on this board are rather slow, which has made some anons feel less inclined to talk about jp livers in a sorta nega-snowball of shyness https://poal.me/vyu100 i'm still brainstorming about how to handle the OP in a way that makes sense. certainly the character limit on 8ch makes a lot possible, but i don't want to actually list every liver (probably). but i do want to provide a quick directory of everyone and something more elegant than just linking to the roster on the official site. a collection of rentries? suggestions very welcome
>>99167 If people follow the rules I think it could be interesting since there are so many livers it can help highlighting something fun you would otherwise miss, but a reminder that the "refugees" talking about the jp livers in the en general were the avatarfags and socposters that the jp general didn't tolerate.
>>99167 just make it, i mean nijien is still the main place about EN, and needs to be monitored, there are just a few people talking about JP so this niji global won't have any serious issues
>>99167 Also, the Niji JP thread is about to die, so you might want to create this one to replace it.
>>98517 The /nenmen/ here sounds like what you want maybe it's time for an actual attempt to make /nenfem/ real lmao.
>>99167 I feel like most people would just discuss en in the en thread rather than in the global one... people are welcomed to try though.
>>99317 It will never work because nobody here watches jp enough to discuss about them, the JP thread has been up for literally TWO YEARS
>>99260 this is some next level storytelling, ive not avatarfagged in the jp thread nor here lol, stop making shit up
>>99695 2 years because it didn't have the refugees who watched JP until 4chan blew up, even the EN thread had some people saying it took the whole day for less than 10 posts, this is ridiculous nonsense excuse
>>99769 Literally barely anyone posts about JP even now, 4chan /2434/ anons already went back
>>99782 Wait until mario kart tournament
>>99789 That absolutely does not prove anyone cares about JP here, the board is clearly prioritizing EN
>>99791 I'm not saying you are milgur trying to drive anons back to halfchan but I am saying you sound like milgur trying to drive anons back. Sorry if you are not, but there may still be a decent amount of anons who do watch both JP and EN. I myself don't watch solo jp stream anymore but I do enjoy big events like tournaments and 3D
>>99804 I'm not him lmao, you're weird for even assuming that. The JP thread didn't even reach post limit during the time halfchan was dead while the EN thrwad hit the post limit mutliple times. It is just the truth a vast majority here doesn't care about JP side, hell, literally almost nobody liveposted Kagetsu's 3D
>>99791 No one said this board prioritizes EN, I can call BO to clarify that.
Anons just take it easy tbh.
>>99820 That's not even the point, the point is almost nobody here cares about JP here, if you don't believe me then go to the JP thread and count how many liveposts were there about Kagetsu's 3D, I'll help you, SIXTEEN POSTS, nijiglobal would just make no sense specifically because it will be EN 99% of the time because almost nobody cares enough to post anything JP related, thus making the board EN focused by default
Milgurschizo
>>99824 If not milgur why hate jp so much the idea a thread where en and jp existing together makes you seethe
>>99824 You can just ignore it then. Why are you so aggressive toward the Niji Global idea to the point that I believe you would do anything to shut it down, rather than simply sharing your opinion about its advantages?
>>99829 *disadvantages*
>>99828 ??????? Where in my post did I say I hate JP, this is some insane level of gaslight >>99829 Because it'll be another dead thread with like 1 or 2 posters, I literally just gave you proof that absolutely barely anyone posted about Kagetsu's 3D debut. People posted about Inami more only because the liveposting thread was linked in the EN thread, I'm not even being aggressive or malicious, just stating the cold harsh truth
If you have doubts next time report it
>>99843 Ah sorry BO. I‘ll learn to trust my gut next time
>>99849 Turns out it wasn't
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>>99849 >>99850 this is the only time i will post with an "avatar" my discussion was not meant to be malicious, i was just stating the truth, i like JP and global would be a good idea but it will be just dead
>>99857 I honestly prefer to have them separate because things get lost in the thread otherwise, i usually go to the JP thread to post/read about news, covers and events
>>99862 I like having a big thread for all livers and i would want the global thread to be a thing but it will feel like a ghost town which was my main reasoning
>>99866 (me) >>99862 But i get the reason for separate threads with the lack of the lack of the archive, i guess
>>99866 More than that i think it's important for both to have their own space, we have a whole board and we can use it, i don't get the gripe some people have about wanting to discuss JP in the EN thread as if this was Hitlertown for not allowing it, it was always like that here
>>99883 Its mostly about the fact how traffic works on this site is that vast majority of people is only here for the EN thread and barely even looks at catalog or visits other threads, i never said JP should be discussed in EN thread, thats stupid, i wasnt even being inflammatory when i said most of people here dont pay attention to the JP side
>>99890 Oh no i didn't say you said that, i was mostly talking about the people anon wants to convince to come back, i'm honestly pretty happy with them not coming back except for the /2434/ thread anons and the /jp/ anons. I actually like the current speed and order of things and understand that the main attraction of this board was always the NijiEN thread since it was literally built around it
>>99896 Regardless Im here and on the other site and i dont shill any site to anywhere both ways, i was just saying how I think the nijiglobal theead would make not much sense since it would feel like a ghost town, i understand why would you think im milgur but im literally the opposite of that schizo since he hates ike, i still think a thread for 3D event discussion branch wise would be good, like /niji3D/ or something where people can livepost any 3D event regardless of branch but i cant be the one to make it since i get assumed for milgur so one day it might get nuked
>>99906 I'm not the anon you were discussing with lol, i actually was supporting your point
>>99910 Oops, see it can be hard to discern but yeah i meant no malice
>>100056 I'm not gonna be lectured by a tourist on how the board is ran, you are free to make your own board or return to /vt/ but you people are getting on my nerves when YOU are the ones who invaded our space so do us all a favor and if you don't like it you can kindly fuck off
>>100063 Honestly i'm tired of some of the /vt/ards too, they accuse us of not being fans and having a "reddit circlejerk" because they can't post their 300 ritualposts, pics about their dicks and so on. They can stay on the cesspool of a site they made for themselves instead of trying to change what this site is and always was for us, there's a reason why so many original posters came to this site on 2023 and you can see it quite clearly by comparing the quality of both EN threads
I kinda excited for global thread tbh
>>100119 Having a thread where I could livepost without alt tabbing between the different threads would be nice. I agree.
Even if it ended up dead, who cares. Make it then let it live or die. It's literally just a fucking thread lmao
>>100069 It's not everyone, there is many people who came here and adapted well, I'm noticing a certain pattern on the ones who are getting banned tho and I think we don't lose nothing from banning them, specially when they try to make posts trying to google doc cancel me for banning someone for tor posting on accident (and lifted the ban right after) since the only anon who tor posted in this board was a known shitposter and the anon cleared up the misunderstanding in the appeal. I'd say don't put everybody in the same bag but also I understand some very bad apples came from there. You win some you lose some
>>100119 I have no idea what the fuck has happened since but the guy proposing the global thread is bailing this site and left the pastebin for anyone that wants to continue on with it. What is going on lol why is there so much supposed drama we should go back to the times where the mods only had to do something once a month lol. https://pastebin.com/LEmUpUvZ
>>100150 I heard from /site/ that enabling/disabling tor is gonna be a feature the devs are gonna implement. If it's true, There's your solution to that one tor poster.
>>100150 BO, would you hate me if me requesting to appeal the permanent ban for that anon 😔 🙏
>>100151 A volunteer approached me and told me that they were talking shit about the board and moderation on the other site, some avatarposters and "known" anons got mad because of the moderation, made a discord server and whatever. I truly do not care where people go and if I can honestly just have the low workload this board always had I'd take that but some people truly take this whole thing as a big deal when I couldn't care less how many or how little people are in this board, it always was mostly a place to hang out and talk about streams, repost fanart and clips
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>>100160 >some avatarposters and "known" anons got mad because of the moderation, made a discord server and whatever. that is not what happened unfortunately and your volunteer is lying to you
>>100155 It's ok you can ask for that but it truly don't think I will seeing how they reacted multiple times in a very hostile way towards a situation they didn't have the full information of. The person didn't want to understand but attack
>>100163 Yeah I can vouch for this anon.
>>100163 I don't know and I don't care, I'm just saying what was told to me but everyone is free to go look for their answer. All the info about /vt/ has been given to me against my will because I literally do not care a single bit what happens on that site
>>100166 that is absolutely fine, but the volunteer feeding you misinfo is cringe, server was made during the exodus to contain people and stop them from shitting up this place with offtopic, that was the only reason
>>100163 If that's the case maybe we can consider reverting back to a one man show like how it was before since the main thread is slowish again.
>>100171 >volunteer feeding you misinfo is cringe I already told them to shut it with petty board drama >>100172 I wanna see first how the next few days are gonna be because there's still more anons than before. Be sure that this is something I'm thinking about too
I think this drama is dumb. Talk about streams 4kek retards.
I just want to see if Niji Global can work or not, someone madm it, allowed the discussion and mention of all livers, this drama happened because people kept talking about it but no one created it
>>100182 Take that pastebin and make it anon ganba! >>100151
>>100182 Then what's stopping you? JUST DO IT
>>100183 >>100184 I was wanting to see the thread created and a good start with the Mario Kart event to boost the thread, then drama happened, a new JP thread showed up, now it became a bad time and awkward to make the thread right now, at least during this tournament
>>100186 Could just make a thread regardless of the JP thread imo. We have an ENTIRE catalog of threads and only like 5% are being used. On second thought, fuck it. I'll make one. >>100191, Even if it's not used now because of Marikart being posting in the JP thread people can still use it later. If they don't whatever.
Incredible all this stupid drama instead of talking about streams and just making the thread, idk why some anons get so worked up about getting warnings or banned when they can just appeal and i say it as someone that got banned for tor posting, but it really didn't matter because i can see how my post sounded weirdly agressive and it was the first post that i made so it looked suspicous as fuck.Also good luck on the anons that are trying the global thread it is way better than to keep looping this shit
>>100063 Being from youtube , it is always people who can't make their community who always complain about moderation. or to quote Russia "who are you (EU) to dictate others on how to run their country" >>100056 Come to my board in >>>/ai/ make thread there so I can ban a /vt/creep. Doesn't matter if you came from 4 or 8, both are horrible. @OP: This week 3-6 4channers came to my place, seeing last posts were from 1-3 days ago, calling it "dead, abandoned" or so (I guess by ADHD standard but we just finished our active period) so they run away. Now I see this OP, I recognize that kind of rhetoric. It is from politician's children who is out of touch on how normal people live that he can't fathom that people make it just fine
>>100852 I'm not sure what to make out of your post but if you enjoy Aikatsu Academy one of our livers played minecraft and promoted their first concert. They also showed up in her 3D debut stream. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvrQeoDun7w https://youtu.be/1rhoqHiQFOY?t=1726
Cmon BO, one of your mod being retard again. This tweet specifically refers to ike's graduation letter.
>>102013 maybe next time add that context to your post since we aren't exactly expecting people to have to double check links
>>102125 I though that is mod responsibility to check first before shoot?
>>102013 >checks logs Bro it's just a warn.
>>102013 It's kind of on the vague side, there's no problem if ex livers mention them directly or even go "blue boy" and stuff like that but vagueposting was always considered off-topic
>>102164 I would agree with you and said you are right if there is no quote sentence in that tweet. Idk. Kinda pmo when I got punish for posting outsider that still support our side in good faith.
>>102013 >>102131 You are this salty over 1 deleted post…?
>>102169 It is not about the post. It about the reception of that post in the eye of pistol holder. Read this >>102168
Also, I'm aware that one of the mods right now is that one anon who always throws hissy fits when anons talk about pl/ex-livers/other livers when it relates to the current topic at that time. Even when BO said it is okay, they always disagree.
Well anons the day has come, back in 2023 this board was made and I was one of the volunteers back in the day, board lasted like a few months until it was left to die but then I claimed it so we could make a little place in the internet for Nijisanji fans to discuss anonymously without having to care for shitposters and bad actors (which was a very good choice in retrospective). Ever since then I’ve been managing the board almost full time, it was always open on my second monitor even when I was working from home, I think I’ve probably spent more hours reading and moderating when needed than actually working ever since but that will sadly come to an end today since I’ve been given really good news about my professional life and I will be moving up the ladder but that means I won’t be able to be in my house all the time to moderate the board, it also means I have now less free time and I’d rather spend that free time doing other things I enjoy (watching streams being one of them since I still really love the Nijisanji talents very much). I spoke to all volunteers and we decided on a new BO and I will step down as BO. I will still be in contact with the new BO to help them through the process but as I’m posting this I’m most likely already passing the ownership. To the old anons: I’m gonna miss my times here and the activities and April Fools days we had, also I’m gonna come clean and tell you I was the one streaming the concerts so I was streaming them while moderating the threads (good thing everyone behaved). I hope you still have a good time and get along with the new anons that came to this board. To the new anons: you probably don’t know much about me but thank you for adapting to the new culture over here, I always wanted for everyone to have a place to chat about our hobby in peace and I hope you enjoy it and have fun with everyone else. And as a little ending to this I want to tell you some things about me since I was always cautious about not revealing anything about me just in case: >I probably watch around 10 hours of streams daily between main branch and EN >I went to the last NijiFES and had a great time hanging out with other Niji fans (I have tons of pictures) >My top 5 youtube streamers last year (in this order) were Reimu, Finana, Elira, Vanta and Wilson >I currently have 12 paid memberships for Nijisanji members >From the main branch I really enjoy watching Kagami, Onoharu, Kuzuha and Iinchou >I’m a Koshien nerd, even bought Pawapuro when I was in Japan, you’ll probably see me again when Koshien happens to nerd about it with everyone else >I auditioned to get into NijiEN and was on the last round but did an oopsie and showed the site during the meeting and that’s probably what got me botched >Ok that last one was a lie but it’d be pretty funny >I have 200 GB of unarchived karaokes in my PC >I have a library full of Niji merch, there’s papes, coasters, acrylics, big plushies (Sophia and Choma), solid perfume, CDs, name plates, clear files, birthday merch and a singular Sonny Brisko Overture card that looks at me right in the eye whenever I turn around >I have a custom VP from when Lazulight debuted >You smell kinda good >Don’t turn around >My favorite ice cream flavor is raspberry!
>>106643 I kinda see this coming tbh from your absence in the logs lmao. Anyways, Thanks for the past 2+ years BO and good luck on your future endeavors.
>>106643 Thank you for everything, for stepping up and claiming the board watching over it, for the restreams, for organizing things and your passion for Nijisanji. I'm glad you're moving up the ladder and taking the time to enjoy yourself more. Thank you for entrusting me with the board and I will try my best to make you and the anons proud. Good luck on your new job Ver!
>>106643 I always have a good time here so thanks for everything! Also, good luck on your professional career.
>>106662 >Good luck on your new job Ver!
>>106643 Thanks for taking care of this place and good luck with your career! New BO, are you willing to organize the email list for downloads still, or shall I figure something else out?
>>106726 I'm not entirely sure what's the plan, but we can arrange it. Let's reiterate it, you want a way to confirm if interested parties are legit and be sent the membership letters?
>>106742 Yep. Basically what was done for the old watchalongs and archives for paid things here. People post a throwaway email and you check that they've posted before and aren't shitposters. I can always handle the actual emailing part if needed, just want to try to gatekeep it a bit by trying to limit it to actual fans.
>>106757 Very well, I can forward the link of archive. Let me know when everything is ready and I will post an email on /nijimale/ so the interested parties can mail it with a No. of their post for me to verify.
>>106643 otsu and good luck in life! i've always enjoyed my time here, lurking before the migration, and posting afterwards. thanks for taking this space and making it a mostly calm, enjoyable space for us.
>>106643 thanks for taking care of the place and for everything thats been done for the community
>>106786 You can start gathering emails whenever you'd like. I believe he's not posting the final membership stuff until right before the graduation stream and trying to coordinate during that might be hard. That gives people a bit more time to respond as well.
>>106643 Cheers. I wish you luck recovering from our autism. Be sure to leave the door to your merch stash unlocked while you're at work, for no particular reason.
>>106643 Thank you for everything BO and good luck on your new journey! Feeling a bit sad but at least we got a proper graduation with you unlike whatever happened to the first BO.
>>106643 Missed out on you leaving over all the stuff that was happening, my bad. This board gave me space to rest and talk about the streams in peace. It gave me a space to vent and share pains about my oshi without worrying about being harassed and mocked. I dunno about overall board activity, but I have a feeling I was the second one after you as there were days when I posted all alone in the thread. I'm sorry for tormenting you with my crashouts and overall bad behaviour. Still, besides all of that, you were understanding and gave me chances to stay, and I'm grateful for that, even though I feel I didn't deserve that much tolerance that you gave me. I'm not as much of a fan as you are, far from it. I can't buy any merch or VPs and I only membered to few livers at the moment, so I can't have much say when it comes to being a Niji fan. Still, I'm happy to be here, to watch streams and discuss them. I know you aren't dying and I'm probably being overdramatic, but still, I just wanted to say that I'm really grateful for everything you've done in the past 2 years and I really respect you. Thank you. Hope you'll get some rest and still be able to livepost some streams, whenever you have time to do so
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>>106643 I came after the 4chan hack, but thank you for creating this space. Ironically, being here helped me get into Nijisanji the past few weeks because there wasn't constant misinformation and shitposters being allowed to infest the board. I'm not going to pretend i've been here for a long time or know you too well, but I will say thank you for creating this space and making it a great place for Niji fans and newcomers alike to talk without having to worry about someone taking a dump on their fun.
>>106643 Thank you BO for everything, hope for the best with you! Hope we can still see you around here.
>>106643 Thanks for taking care of the board these last few years. Good luck in your career.
Its off topic but I guess it fits the more /meta/ discussion. I'm pretty impressed that this is one of 8chan's fastest boards, at least according to the site's landing page.
>>110985 only decent place to talk anonymously about nijisanii
>>110985 Oh it always has been like that actually, we were always on the top even before the migration which gained us a certain popularity and got us invited to some board wide events though we also don't mesh well that much with the other anons in other boards so it also has gained us the title of hermits
while I enjoy the site I still do find that warnings and bans are sometimes unwarranted, especially when they're in response to someone else.
>>117138 Moderating is a hard balance to strike. I think blatant number talk, conspiracy theories on contracts, wanting them to pander to parasocial people that drop them for collabing cross-gender, and generally making stuff up about how Nijisanji works shouldn't be kosher. American anon who got warned is throwing a fit on half chan about it, none of that stuff is ever in good faith.
>>117203 No I'm the American anon and I can promise I am not the one throwing the fit. Im watching aia in her 33rd expedition. None of the talk in the thread where warnings were issues mentioned contracts, conspiracy theories, pandering to parasocial people or anything of the sort. The conversation I got warned for replying to went >"People should have known going into Niji they'd debut a lot of livers right away and if livers all did the same stuff it's cuz they were lazy" When I said >By 2021 JP stopped spamming debuts and had slowed down to 1-2 waves per year and the livers who attempted to create original content experienced delays that cost them literally thousands of dollars I was warned because somehow mentioning things that are livers themselves have mentioned in the past was considered shit flinging. A post replying to my reply mentioned that things had changed and I even said >Yes they have but the original problems came from management being too thinly spread due to acceleration I was warned for that as well. These are things that the livers have acknowledged themselves. Warning people or banning them for bringing up things that livers themselves have talked about or hinted at is kinda dumb.
>>117236 Ngl i read a few of the posts and it looked like everyone in the conversation was just discussing for the sake of it because they reached an agreement and wanted to keep discussing afterwards because you were bored or something, you guys even said "ok last post" like 3 times, i'm not gonna say you broke the rules because that is not for me to decide but going on about the "what ifs" FOR HOURS was certainly shitting the thread while we were just trying to talk about streams, i dunno, like i said, go watch streams or get a hobby instead of arguing for hours with people online, Jesus fucking Christ
>>117236 Well the same talking points that were brought up here are being brought up on there word for word, including music perms that ignore that the labels are in control of that, or that equivocating original work with spending money and being ignorant of the fact that covers and video games weren't much of a focus in early Nijisanji and they differentiated themselves well. And the warning screenshot is getting replies calling it rightful action for basically being framed like catalog posts, you can understand my confusion. 117112 was about parasocial pandering and was warned. The contract tariff nonsense was the other day. With the slow down you mentioned as if there was a whole program already set up, but Lazulight came out before VTA was even announced, let alone that they came from EN auditions five months before that. "I'm just bringing up what the livers said" doesn't really hold water if the way it's talked about isn't considered, and we've had anons bring up Selen and Pomu nonsense, Zaion came up in that convo even, when it's painfully clear people often can't communicate with staff or their fan bases with riling people up. Rosemi is a wonderful entertainer, but to bring her up as if she can even get through a massage without fumbling it and blaming the masseuse, or making her Tekken tourney team feel like shit by saying she doesn't care if they win when she got in to a downward spiral, is needless infantalizing at best. Livers are adults, treat them as fallible, management has issues and corporations are inherently a mess, but aren't some sort of faceless mob that are the stand-in for copyright or music industry. Send a well considered letter or something, because I wholeheartedly agree with the warnings given here.
>>117254 Of course they're not in charge of music perms what they are in charge of is sending the stuff out for final approval which is something they delayed and delayed and delayed until they eventually lost the perms all together because it had sat there for so long. People are of course going to bring it up because it's one of those things that you can easily point to and go "yeah that really was an issue, wasn't it" Yes, I did bring up VTA because that is something that exists in JP and was at least part of the reason that they slowed down. That being said even without that, out of curiosity how many waves do you think that JP debuted in 2021? I'll tell you Rosemi is very competent, she lives on her own and has for years now, worked two jobs before joining where she was praised by the people around her and also finished college before joining. She has made original projects by herself and was one of the few people to make an original song in EN, I think she was actually the second person in en to do so. On her anniversary stream she talked about how excited she was to show it off and it being done but just waiting on approval. You sit here acting like she's incompetent when she has always put in a shit load of effort to her projects. honestly speaking your infantilization of her is disappointing to see.
>>117270 VTA literally wasn't why they slowed down, I spelled out the timing explicitly. One wave in 2020 and one in 2021, I've been watching JP since early on and seen every Rosemi stream, I know the work she's put in. I'm saying that to act as if livers communicate well without being vague and how blame always without fail ends up being seen as a management boogeyman where even fucking 4chan thinks your talking points are catalog bait is pretty blatantly clear at this point. I stand by this site's mods and their decisions and think you're arguing without merit and not caring when it's pointed out that you don't know what you're talking about.
>>117280 I decided that I would go and see myself, what you were referring to. That post has eight replies, two of which call the post a shit post and from the catalog. The other 6 are either in agreement or neutral. No, VTA was not explicitly the reason that they slowed down. You're right. But by 2020 even they had slowed down. Between 2020 and 2022, There were a total of three waves. So do tell me why it is that it is considered shit stirring to point out that people, even those who are familiar with JP might not be expecting to have 5 debuts within 2-3 months of each other? I'm afraid that when multiple people say the same thing and vouch that this thing happened, it probably happened. In the case of perms, multiple people talked about how slow management was to get back to them because management was so thinly spread. I guess that you don't believe Rosemi when she talks about it but I guess that all of Lazulight and Ethyria are also incompetent and just out to uhhhh hurt the company or something....... This conversation is ridiculous
>>117295 You can't read, or are you delusional? The replies to the screenshot throwing a fit were; #1 based janny, #2 you got banned for being catalog tier, #3 still seething, #4 mistaken for Selen convo from how unclear it was, #5 you're pathetic, #7 jannies were right that's catalog tier, #8 calling it shit-stirring. How is that six people neutral or in agreement? This site should strive to have better standards than 4chan, and I appreciate the mods here for actually moderating. If Nijisanji JP, and Hololive and Holostars JP, who apparently are the only that matter to the English audience, all had debuts at least that fast to establish themselves, I think it makes sense to think that is a silly reason to get fed up with watching the EN branch. In the case of people like Pomu or Selen or Nina, then ya absolutely. Please tell me how the latter can think she's getting ripped off by not getting paid for merch when she sees it in a store as if that wasn't ordered in advance in bulk a while ago and think that's in good faith? Management was spread thin, ya, people have frustrations many of which are understandable, I simply take things with a grain of salt when they're vague as to the actual reasoning, and as the EN thread recently showed Wilson and Enna saying, people overspeculate and get mad on their behalf based on that.
>>117302 You're right I didn't read. That is on me. I don't spend time anymore on that site. Which is part of the reason that's so frustrating to be accused of posting it there when I didn't. I have no idea what the second half of your post is even referring to. What I do know is that to mention how thinly spread management was, and then be told that that's somehow shit stirring, when there has been acknowledgment that things have since changed and had gotten better is ridiculous. The Anon that I responded to kind of insinuated that livers who did not produce original content were lazy, now I have a problem with that. The anon that I responded to, said that people should expect multiple waves all at once because that's how Niji operates. To debunk both of these posts, I mentioned that JP had slowed down hardcore, literally three waves within 2 years. There is no rhyme or reason to believe that they would have done what they did in 2018 and 2019 in 2021 in a completely new environment where they weren't the leaders. That people largely weren't familiar with JP regardless though because JP clips didn't go viral, even the ones that did have less than 200k views 5 years later. I also pointed out that livers who did try to make original content face massive delays and a lack of response from management. Which is something that multiple livers have talked about. Including but not limiting to: Elira, Millie, Enna, Rosemi, Pomu, Finana, vox, Ike and I believe Sonny iirc. To pretend like it is all just a misunderstanding and that they're totally weren't a bunch of people who mentioned how thinly spread management was and how it was very difficult to hear back from them in a reasonable time frame, is to ignore multiple people saying that exact thing. None of that is shit stirring. That is all stuff that has been talked about before on stream and that has thankfully improved as they have hired more people.
>>117308 Why is original content usually a paid for always management approval needed thing to you? And the alternative the same video games? In their day to day schedule original work is an expectation and it's an agency based on chatting streams and freeform talking-centric planning content that is done often live to a chat they're interacting with. If someone's bringing up early Nijisanji then it's with good reason, if some rando who dropped EN wasn't aware, at least you should be if you're talking about the history of the group and don't know anything about VTA let alone Iinchou or SEEDS. Please tell me how long in advance you think Koshien is planned, a heavily management supported project nowadays. I'll have you know it's not a quick turnaround. Then you brought up 3D debuts, and that anon mentioned that early JP livers often have waited years for those. I don't care if they weren't the leaders or didn't go clip viral, who the fuck cares about clips. We're in a Nijisanji board, to talk about Nijisanji content, with an understanding of the work they have done and will do.
>>117308 >That is all stuff that has been talked about before on stream Timestamp it then if you're actually a genuine poster and not just shitposting in bad faith
>never livepost >only make 600 word paragraph that can be summed up with pic related >gets warned >goes "surprised pikachu face"
>>117316 Okay, I will walk you through this and then be done. I have written and rewritten responses to this they all end up very lengthy so you'll have to forgive me. 1. >Why is original content a paid for / management approved thing to you The original content comment was in response to somebody saying that if they all played the same games it was because they were lazy. To which I pointed out that no, they played the same games because there was a delay in everything. People attempted to create original content but original content was usually delayed if it was approved at all. The reason everybody played the same games was because there was a spreadsheet of games that they are allowed to play and have permission to play. Using the spreadsheet livers often played the same games because they were games that they knew they had full approval for. 2. >Why bring up 3D Because my statement was that if you're going to debut a bunch of people who all end up playing basically the same thing due to your lack of ability to secure permissions for other things, the least that you could do to keep the audience entertained was promise things like 3d. It would not only keep the fans excited but would keep the livers excited. Mutually beneficial relationship. 3. >Who cares about clips Clips are unfortunately a good way to introduce people who are unfamiliar with your brand into your brand. Clips are largely what allowed HoloEn and by proxy NijiEn to exist. Because there was a lack of push by management to actually introduce people to the JP side, which by the way is still an issue, People had gotten used to a slower debut style where we're talking five members a year. People weren't used to a "watch who you want" type of content. And that includes the people who were applying. Since there was no viral content to really go off of, a lot of people didn't really know anything about the company. A lot of people wouldn't have realized that they were signing up for a branch that was going to debut 20 people in one year. And like I said even if you were familiar with the company you would be unlikely to think that that would happen because A a different company had already kind of established a pace that was widely accepted by the Western community, and B: in Japan where they're based out of, they have largely not done that. Not since 2019. Not since pre-pandemic. I hope this explanation is good enough. >>117330 As far as time stamps go I am a mobile only poster, I have tried before to get timestamps on mobile but I can't seem to figure it out admittedly. If you check through the archives I'm sure that you'll find posts talking about Elira, Pomu and Reimu mentioning covers but they couldn't get approval for after they sent them in because management sat on them for so long. Elira as far as I know has never specified what cover she got delayed, but Pomu mentioned several times that hers was the bunny girl senpai cover. If you watch the Obsydia anniversary stream of 22, Rosemi mentioned her original song was done and hopefully would be releasing soon as it was supposed to be something done by anniversary. It didn't release until September 24th. If you watch the other anniversary stream with the RPG maker she made, towards the end of the stream she mentions that she has asked for it to be approved and then it never did. Like none of this is new information. I will say unfortunately some the stuff mentioned by Millie, like the price of covers and stuff like that is on a membership stream. I can't guarantee that the stream is still up, because you know how she is. But if you look in the archives I'm sure that you'll find it
>>117359 I'm sorry but none of the livers that I like posting about went live today. I would have loved posted Feesh but gacha bores me. I did post about Aia a bit but since I'm interested in the game itself, I admittedly didn't watch too much because I don't want to be spoiled. Scarle cut her hair a few times on stream. She woke up at midnight and did so in order to make sure she was not late for her meeting like she had been the previous day. But it wasn't really a stream that was that captivating either. I don't watch alban but I heard his sims challenge was interesting. Well I could think about was the time that Feesh tried it and didn't even get like four babies in before giving up. Meloco has already ended by the time I got around to tuning in
>>117371 Nobody mentioned laziness as a motivation, there was "if people are streaming the same content at the same time then that's a deeply rooted sign of poor imagination on their part or lack of original ideas. Fuck AAA FOTM video games." The board has frequently talked about wanting more variety in content in video games, TRPG, group projects, chatting only streams, etc. None of which are necessarily stuff that requires waiting to be released or being paid for. This isn't a new convo here. JP projects if they're formalized and having things like prizes or a lot of offloaded organizing do take many months, this isn't news to anyone who has followed them. And the casual ones can be stuff like "guess who is the karaoke werewolf" which takes literally no management processing. Watch some Iinchou and SEEDS or literally any VTA stuff, at least before this recent girl band group. It's not that hard. Why would they speedrun EN 3D debuts over JP ones when most (certainly early on) don't live in Japan, and don't go to visit outside of debuts and concerts. Again, early JP debuts had 3D often after years. They had subbed official clips for JP, a whole boatload of them. That's literally what the Nijisanji EN official channel used to be made up of. You even had management co-arranging Deron showing up in a VShojo collab along with Kizuna AI/Siro/Haneru to raise awareness among the English audience. Again, you don't know anything about JP, and it's not actually endearing saying that livers who were joining didn't even bother to do a basic look at the terrible English VTubing wiki or watch some clips, truly the bare minimum if you're interested in the company beyond a "I didn't get in to Hololive EN/wanted that Luxiem money."
>>117382 You're right the exact words were >"that's a deeply rooted sign of poor imagination on their part or lack of original ideas" my b. Regardless have a good one anon.
>>117387 Have a good one, perhaps watch the 200+ JP liver clips on the EN channel in the mean time, maybe can assuage the idea that there was a lack of management push; https://www.youtube.com/@nijisanji_en/playlists (the "1 min NIJISANJI," "Snack Time," "PUCHISANJI," and most of the "NIJIClip" playlists.) There's probably some English sub added ones on the JP channel that don't overlap too.


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