>>31572 Imagine the kind of people that go there. You for instance, are married, and want to change the diapers of older women. I suggest you focus on your marriage, and don't lean too hard on your kinks. Or fuck your marriage and get a divorce and do whatever you want. It's your life after all. My advice is to first gather on a public space so you can get to know these people before you trust them with your diapered genitals. Build a friendship, create a small IRL community you can trust. Then rent a private residence for bigger events. This will take a lot of time, though. And don't expect people to be super kinky. Avoid people who are, though.

I rarely like meetups. Everyone is always horny as shit and I generally just want a friend or two to play games or hangout with.

>>31572 When I went to munches they were ran by socially autistic people that would never be in change of anything if it weren't as socially crazy as ABDL. Everyone involved (about ten of them) with the exception of me and my wife and another normal guy were clear social outcasts, except for the guy dressed as a girl who was high as fuck on drugs, he might've been normal sober, couldn't say. But it was a very uncomfortable hour looking to find a way to get the heck out of there. It's unfortunate normal people won't run munches, at least by where I live, but perhaps that's the nature of the beast.

>>31572 Best meetup I ever did was in Los Angeles with this small group of people in the Westwood area. They had 2 people in charge of the whole thing, made sure everyone looked normal, had rules against trannies and kept everything public. Overall fun experience but felt lonely as most of them were Mommy/Daddy+Baby pairs. There was a cute little guy and girl that didn't interact much though, wish I befriended them. They were the ideal image of a Little. Like >>31575 said most of these fucking things are ran by autists so what I experienced was a standout compared to the more common meetups. I still regret this one meet in San Francisco, fat tranny shat himself on the train to our destination.

>>31572 The people running these things are always normalfags and the people who attend always have incompatible ideas of what they want out of the event. I'd avoid them and just stick to the internet.

>>31578 >are always normalfags I wish, that's rarely ever the fucking case with these niggers.

>>31579 We probably have different definitions of normalfags, but I'll bite. Do you think that the average person on fetlife is an autist while the average poster here is a normalfag?

Subject number 1: Why are you people complaining about this? I thought this is what you wanted? I thought this was normal for you? I thought you wanted cringe, drugs, alcohol, socially inept people, people who have social anxiety, people who manipulate, gaslight, lie, use and abuse others. Subject number 2: I know that this isn't right, thats why I keep this to myself in private private (thats not a typo because there are people who say its private for them and then they do something in the public eye, whether in real life or on "public" websites). Most if not all abdls can not be trusted. Most people can not be trusted. I've more or less accepted the fact that I will never have anyone to share this with (just as long as I have my own private space, on my own). It would be nice to have someone to share this with but the reality is that most abdls can not be trusted. If you can't figure out what I'm really saying, you are a f***ing lost cause.

>>31583 this isn't reddit you fucking faggot, you don't have to censor your curse words

>>31576 >Westwood Toddlerkun's group by any chance?

>>31572 Cringe.

>>31583 I've hung out with over a dozen other ABDLs at clubs, parties, and social events. All these that I hang out with are obscenely well-adjusted dudes who just wear diapers when in private. I recently even went to a wedding for one. If you choose to hang out with dysfunctional people, you'll find dysfunctional people. There's no utility in being a doomer about it. Just be discerning about the ABDLs you choose to meet. :)

>>31580 >Do you think that the average person on fetlife is an autist while the average poster here is a normalfag? Nigger a normalfag wouldn't be on these kind of sites.

>>31597 Different person here. Every time I've ever gone out of my way to meet someone in this space, they've been unhinged. I gave up.

>>31612 That's unfortunate. I've no doubt there's a disproportionate level of cringey people into ABDL, but I mean to illustrate that there are normal people out there to find. It may simply require a lot more work than more typical fetish meetups. I may be lucky, or it may be somewhat location-dependent. Are you in a big city or somewhere smaller?

>>31597 As a fag what were the normal diaper guys like? Did they wear diapers without pants? Did they use the diapers? Did they let other guys change their diapers? Did they talk about their wives / girlfriends? It would be cool to hang out with dudes in diapers but would be weird because I would want to give them blowjobs.

>>31635 >As a fag what were the normal diaper guys like? Generally just dudes. Full disclosure I'm a fag and a lot of my diaper pals are too, but I don't really go to these guys for sex as most of them are married. >Did they wear diapers without pants? If we were hanging out in private, sure. Otherwise we keep it subtle. >Did they use the diapers? Yeah. >Did they let other guys change their diapers? Generally, yeah. >Did they talk about their wives / girlfriends? The 1-2 straight dudes we've had will do so, but conversation is usually pretty casual. Worth noting that one of the guys we hang out with previously identified as "straight" but changed his mind after getting turned into a sissy baby for a few nights. I really want to stress that the dudes I hang out with have become friends first and diaper pals second. That may sound wishy-washy, but I think it matters in determining the mindset you go to meetups with. If you go out specifically to make diaper pals you may end up hanging with crazy people because you're putting the diaper interest first. Rather, my advice is to make friends who are into diapers.

>>31597 ABDL and other fringe fetishes are mecca's for attracting degenerates, weirdos, and the autistic. I accepted this inevitability long ago that the chances of meeting a well adjusted individual with a diaper fetish is very slim pickings, but they exist and agreed pick and choose your friend. Ive done a few diaper meet ups. Mostly couples, but through fetlife and steam groups I meet local abdl's who I grew a relationship with through gaming. I meet up with 2 others bros and we play vidy in diapers with sleepovers at each other houses. Great time playing Rust, and GTA online, and whatever flavor of FPS. Sometimes movie night, bar hopping, or a trip to the cinema. Did ax throwing once. It wasn't always strictly about diapers either, just hanging out. Network bro.

>>31597 >>31620 >>31653 Oh well. I tried to speak out against the bad that is out there. Apparently speaking out does nothing. You people have no idea whats really out there and whats really going on. Not my fucking problem!

Ill probably never meet anyone IRL into this even though I kind of want to. I have a great relationship with my wife and I dont think Id choose having degenerate diaper boy sleepovers over being with her. I just wish it wasn't a choice between the two. Im not mad that she isn't really open to the idea of me exploring some homoerotic abdl (or vanilla for that matter) relationships because for 90% of people monogamy is the norm. I can dream though, dream about finding a cute diaper boy to play videogames with and share handsy diaper changes. Its almost like a desire for a boyxboy young love. Not romantic adult love. Im not interested in dating a man, but the idea of roleplaying as teens trying on diapers together and quietly talking about masturbation in the late hours of a sleepover before engaging in some mutual masturbation really gets me going.

>>31644 >but changed his mind after getting turned into a sissy baby for a few nights what went down here?

>>31655 a good question indeed. what is your fucking problem? chill dude

>>31733 You just described exactly what I am looking for in meetups. And I can tell you that even if your wife would be fine with it, you'll have a hard time finding others who want the same. Most people I encounter are just looking to get off making it hard to engage past the sexual part.

The ideal meetup is one without any ABDLs, and definitely not the sort of people posting here.

It would seem to me that you need to vet people online before ever meeting them in person. Are they a tranny? Then they are already mentally ill, unstable and likely to be drama magnets. (I already hear the reeing on this one) Are they a furfag? Then they are already mentally ill, unstable and likely to be drama magnets. Do they use pronouns on any of their bios, usernames or descriptions? Then they are already mentally ill, unstable and likely to be drama magnets. Do they have pride flags anywhere in pictures, on their bios, usernames or descriptions? Then they are already mentally ill, unstable and likely to be drama magnets. The fetish world has become a shithole of a toxic echo chamber, where the risks of trying to find friends online into ABDL far outweigh the benefits. The modern internet has ruined it.

>>31755 He went to some parties, wore some sissy clothes, got caged, pissed his pampers and realized soon after that he wasn't so straight after all. I'm quite happy for him on that.

>>31770 You sound like a miserable person. I certainly wouldn't want to meet somebody like you.

>>31772 >You sound like a miserable person. I certainly wouldn't want to meet somebody like you. Every time drama pops up in this fetish, it's the furfags, the trannies and/or the terminally online loud and proud rainbow pride crowd that's at the center of it. This is such a Reddit response "Hurr durr, who hurt you!", "You sound like a miserable person"...etc. It's all basic shaming language and it's fucking retarded. It's exactly the toxic shithole culture I'm talking about. Fuck off back to Reddit.

>>31770 Add, "Do they use words like 'problematic' or 'toxic'? Then they're mentally ill, unstable, and likely to be drama magnets." to your list. >>31774 I think you have a very selective memory. Or are you including everyone posting in the cringe threads and other similar forums as "terminally online loud and proud rainbow pride culture"? All the worst shit I've seen has come from groups like those who derive enjoyment from dragging weird but fundamentally reclusive and inconsequential people into the spotlight and going as far as stalking and harassing them in real life. For a while I used to be quite sympathetic to the whole alt-right anti-feminist movement online, but everything I've seen over the last couple of decades has convinced me that they harbor and encourage at least as many insane psychopaths as the other side and don't hesitate to jump to even more extreme methods to get their way. They are now crying and throwing a tantrum because they have lost their position of being able to do whatever they want with no consequences. All their rhetoric is based on exactly the same motte-and-bailey strategy they accuse others of doing. They will scream and cry about censorship while telling others that they should just be less conspicuous if they don't want to be bullied into suicide.

>>31793 >All the worst shit I've seen has come from groups like those who derive enjoyment from dragging weird but fundamentally reclusive and inconsequential people into the spotlight and going as far as stalking and harassing them in real life. You mean like the trannies who did just that to streamers who played Hogwarts Legacy? Or do you mean the rainbow pride faggots that made it a bannable offense to compare being ABDL to being LGBTQ? Or do you mean the babyfurfags that turned Rainfurrest 2015 into a joke? Or do you mean the recent tranny that tried to cancel FetLife over boomer right-wing memes? Or do you mean the tranny that attempted to crybully Kiwifarms off the internet because it correctly showed evidence that said tranny was grooming children AND sending them instructions on how to make homemade HRT from plastic bags? Or do you mean the tranny that shot kindergartners because Mommy and Daddy wouldn't support their mental illness? >>31793 >They will scream and cry about censorship while telling others that they should just be less conspicuous if they don't want to be bullied into suicide. Trannies kill themselves because they've been gaslit into believing that irreversibly mutilating their bodies will fix their mental illness. Once they have done all the damage and realize they have ruined any chance of ever truly going back. Nobody bullies them more than the people who mutilate them for money. You hate the right-wingers because you KNOW they are right. It's not the right-wingers making the fetish toxic, it's YOU, faggot. I say again, fuck off back to Reddit,

>>31800 >I say again, fuck off back to Reddit, >reddit spacing Every time. And unless your post has to do with irl diaper meetups, you should really just take it to DMs and kiss.

>>31805 >Every time. And unless your post has to do with irl diaper meetups, you should really just take it to DMs and kiss. I've spaced my responses out this way since long before Reddit was created. Fuck chanboard formatting, it's fucking stupid. Besides, Reddit is a cookie cutter state of mind. Besides, I kept it on task, the toxic culture is what makes meetups unlikely to go well. But thanks for letting me know I was right by not refuting any of my points, tranny.

>>31572 > How am I gonna arrange a Diaper-Meetup? Tons of women are into the lifestyle or fetish. You'll find more people in larger cities, but thats kinda obvious. We have a thriving ABDL community here with about 50+ showing up to little's events. Easy peasy to find someone into diapers here. > I used to frequently visit joyclub, even tried Tinder, but its like a desert there for ABDLs. Fetlife is kinda my go-to, though I met my wife on Tinder. She didnt know anything about abdl stuff till she met me and now loves it.We even met another couple in the same boat who met on like bumble of all places. > My main thing are older women in diapers. I would love to meet, just chat and change them and get changed. If you like changing older women you can goto events as a caregiver/diaper changer and just let people know what you're into. 100% there are people wanting to be changed by others. > Then there are Conventions, but these are way too far away to be even feasable for me (and I'm married, so I have to keep it secret somehow). Ah see, here's the rub. I wouldn't cheat on your spouse my dude. That's opening a rabbit hole you just dont wanna go down. If they love you and are a rational adult, you should definitely advocate for non-sexual diaper changes to any local littles, but thats between you and your wife. Not here to give relationship advice but living a life without being able to express yourself and your interests is straight up poison. I will never date a vanilla girl again.

>>31800 I bet you blame trans people for your cereal becoming soggy in milk. good lord you're dumb lol

>>31857 I'd advise not replying to him. It's a mistake. Any mention or even implication of the troons and he'll start blasting his manifesto out again like he's done in multiple other threads.

>>31861 Fair enough. I literally cannot imagine living my life thinking about trans people 24/7. Like, just put on a diaper and go watch cartoons lol

>>31576 >had rules against trannies >Los Angeles >Westwood area >Mommy/Daddyy+Baby pairs This has to be Toddlerkun's group

>>31572 Aw hell nah man do you think you're actually going to get some? Hahahahaha get a load of this loser

>>31595 >>31893 You mean cuckfag's group

are there any dating-apps for DLs ?

>>31934 fetlife. there are no apps specifically dedicated to AB's or DL's. Even the websites dedicated to AB/DL dating are barren wastelands. Very few % of the population practices BDSM, and an incredibly small fraction of people in the BDSM community practice AB/DL behavior. It's not worth the monetary investment to build an app specifically for AB/DL dating. Like the republican dating app, it's gonna be 99.7% men with .3% women. So, unless you're a gay DL good fucking luck.

>>32005 fetlife is terrible for dating

>>32006 I know several people who met their partner over fetlife. My wife/Mommy and I actually met on fetlife.

>>32006 I've met my partner on Fet. Maybe it just didn't work out for you?

>>32010 >>32011 good for you guys, its still terrible for dating because its not actually a dating site. it doesn't have the same functionality as a dating site and most people aren't interested in dating but instead use it more like facebook and let me guess, you guys didn't just message someone out of the blue and hit it off but rather you saw a local munch (geniunely the way to go if you want to meet someone) advertised and met them there?

>>31895 >cuckfag I mean the dude has someone to deal with his diapers and more. I wouldn't imagine there's no sexual play in his dynamic especially given the height difference unless you know something I don't

>>31934 she looks like she has a penis

>>32013 No, I actually saw my now wife, was only a state away and interested in the same things as I was. I messaged her. We talked for a month or two before I went to meet her irl.

>>31857 >I bet you blame trans people for your cereal becoming soggy in milk. good lord you're dumb lol I don't blame the trannies for anything, I just provided examples . I'll note you didn't provide any examples in your response, because you fucking have none, faggot. Nice samefagging too.

>>32037 >I just provided examples No sweetie. No you don't. You are "blaming" and your comments are wildly inaccurate. I bet you did your own research :) >Nice samefagging too. Awwww, you're coping so hard rn! I bet trannies forced you too!

anyone of you tried meeting a hooker or real DL while in a relationship (because Wife does not share this fetish) ?

>>32636 everyone was looking for the pretty skinny ones. you gotta go for the antisocial fat ones but you know they will look pretty if they lose weight. It's like finding a pearl in an oyster. my wife hates trans, pro guns, sees the gov corruption, loves gardening, wants me in chastity (I have been kinda trying it out), wants me tied up, wants me to be more baby mode, she wants me to crossdress but I am not much into it. yeah I got one hell of a wonderful pearl. Honestly the fetish we have seems to be like a need and I don't know why. it feels akin to the maslow s pyramid of need. I don't think you should cheat. Talk to her about it? how long yall been together? what is her view on it? What is she into?

>>32636 Hookers are a bad idea friend. Just beat your wife into an inch of her life and the mental asylum will change your diapers no prob.

>>32662 I did consider meeting up with a hooker or escort or something like that for some DL fun.. but I'm kinda broke all the time and I bet the hourly rate would wreck me more than a spanking with a rusty pipe. that said, what hourly rate should I expect? I'm really desperate for affection..

>>32799 if you want actual play with an abdl mommy there are multiple i can think of. the goddess girls, specifically mommy mercy, are in south florida. dommy mommy k is in ohio. thegoddessgirls.com, dommymommyk.com. haven'tlooked at their rates in a while, but theyre on par with an escort, id guess.

Since it’s coming up: have any of you ever done CapCon. If twitter tags are anything to go by, it seems like its basically trans and sissy con?

>>32811 yea, but none of them are anywhere close, especially if I only want like an hour of fun.. not worth driving 3 or 4 hours each way for a single hour of fun, is it? But I'm probably too broke anyway..

>>33302 I'm going to go this year. I'll report back.

>>33320 I’m going this year too for the first time. I’m hoping the fact that it cost money and organization skills; limits the amount of Abdls who are unhinged and make us look bad. Luckily I’m chill enough to give most people a chance, but I’d be lying if I didn’t say I’m a little worried about being surrounded by spazzes for 5 days

>>33349 Remember rainfureist Where the "crinkles" thought they should rhrow around shitty diapers instead of just properly binning them and keep their diapers inside there pants Tho I won't of mind getting kinky with a diaper fursuiter

>>33302 been twice and going again this year. its pretty well run, though the hotel really needs to be a lot larger forthis event. hotel rooms in the host hotel sell out within 30 seconds every year and have for the past 5 years or more. its a hotel takeover, so as soon as you get your badge you can change into basically whatever you want and dont have to leave the hotel until the con ends. if you go out to walk around the area outside the hotel then you have to hide your badge(tho i know people dont bother and it isnt something that can be policed) its definitely way more fun if you know people ahead of time, imo

>>33420 <its definitely way more fun if you know people ahead of time, imo> What if you’re going solo and are actually socially aware and not-ugly? Are people generally down to include loners or is everyone pretty much cliqued up?

>>33425 people are generally pretty nice, but there are cliques and its pretty easy to tell who they revolve around. the cam models like miss panda pants and that crew tend to follow each other around.

I've been looking on fetlife and shame is only America that dose diaper stuff and inflatable as i would love to try diaper grinding some big babys

>>33425 >what if ur not cliqued up and good looking did this back in 2017 or something in a similar position except I was adjacently aware of the in group overall it sucked until I met up with the in group, albeit I did meet two women that showed interest but I was too dumb to catch it...overall unless youre gay I dont think youll have a good hookup chance as the free mommies or little women are kinda spoken for

>>31572 I just joined fetlife to try to get into some kind of abdl dating scene. I'll try to keep anyone updated on how it's going, but please let me know if there are any concerns that you've had using the site. Thanks anons!

>>33513 For me us when no one reads what sex your interested I'm nale and want a female relationship....just to have 7 men (not trans or identify) say they wanna fuck me with diapers yet my page says I'm interested in females only

>>33522 THIS. TLDR When I used fetlife regularly there was a abdl event at a local kink building in my city. It was my frst time around others in little gear. You wore an id card for identify and sexual preference I put straight and I got 1 fat chick and 5 dudes trying to change me . So I said fuck it to the last dude at the end of the night and he tryied to shove fingers in my ass.

>>33513 dont get your hopes up dude, Fetlife is currently a fucking cesspool of the worst of the worst. constant coombrains, simps and troons.

>>33522 Faggots get off to "converting" regular guys to their degeneracy.

>>33543 >"converting" regular guys to their degeneracy. Bro you are on a Lebanese diaper shitting forum

>>33550 Just because I wear diapers doesnt mean I have a desire to be railed up the ass in my quest to acquire every STD known to man.

>>33522 TOTALLY VALID ANSWER Only guys have contacted me so far, and they want to have poopy gay sex with me >>33525 Don't accept to be changed by a stranger on the scene and not expect them to do some creepy shit without your consent. You played yourself on the assplay, Kanye. >>33528 I haven't posted any legit pics of myself just yet for this very reason, but I'm keeping myself open to the possibility that there is someone out there for me or that there could be friends that are interested in the same things as me that also happen to be into diapers too. No matter what they identify as or what they have down there, as long as they're diapered with me idc. Gotta stay positive... just not aids positive.

>>33525 >>33522 >fetlife sucks pretty much, but a bit of advice if your young, if you have the balls post a body pic if youre in shape and you will more than likely get a hottie vs doing a meetup. Most girls usually know their worth and will pick guys/littles/daddys if they post selfies or something that shows their not obese or a coomer >no one respects me being straight I dont know why this is but after 15 years in the kink and even regular industry with gay guys they will not respect boundaries idk why and this is just learned experience but even the most conservative gay guy will try to fuck you or entrap you into sex

>>33553 this was for you too >>33606 Posting selfies will attract actual women to you, some of the people ive chatted with that I followed on fetlife for over a decade now and in person have told me real pics that are public are the main reason theyve met or even assertively reached out to either as a mdlb or daddyLg

>>33553 >Don't accept to be changed by a stranger on the scene and not expect them to do some creepy shit without your consent. first kink event I ever attended there was a couple there in the little corner, clearly both of them in a Mommy and Daddy role, a couple of littles sat there and started playing, we chatted a bit with the Mommy and she was cool, I dont know how did the topic come up but she said "and then later we can change your nappy if you are good" I immediately was taken aback, it felt weird, invasive and I did not feel comfortable for that to happen and it snapped me out of little space right away "yeah, sorry, no, thank you" and we just carried out the conversation, sometimes the coombrain can betray you I guess but I have only felt comfortable being changed with hired proffesionals, never found an actual CG I would trust enough to let her diaper me, the one that got the closest to that was a bit too much into sissy stuff and I like to be a babyboy so it did not progress because she pushed too much. In fact, I think what I like the most is the contrast that I have to be a dude and put up this manly, serious, facade but then I get to be this silly, cutesy, innocent babyboy who is scared and vulnerable and small but also a boy.

>>33606 >For me us when no one reads what sex your interested >I dont know why this is but after 15 years in the kink and even regular industry with gay guys they will not respect boundaries idk why and this is just learned experience but even the most conservative gay guy will try to fuck you or entrap you into sex in one of the events I attended, there was this very cool guy, everybody knew he was straight, at some point of the night they started trying to slap his face with dildos a couple of times and he became visibly upset and uncomfortable, like a weird mob bullying thing that manifested for some weird reason, and everybody laughed except the guy, I never saw him again... he was actually super easy to chat and quite chill ... I think that when I realized that some people from the alphabet squat are simply WAY TOO resentful and angry and as a straight dude you WILL NOT be welcomed in kink places they are at unless you are willing to be humilliated or put down, even against your will... that and a few other messed up stories usually keep me from reaching out and trying to connect with other people from the kink community...

>>31597 Where do you Network?

>>33320 I realized that I never actually did follow up and report back on my CAPCON experiences, and even though it's been almost six months since then, and people might not care, there's another thread talking about how this place has such little activity nowadays so I figured I'd make the post anyway. Background I'd met up with ABDLs a little bit in private settings before but only ever to chat. Not do diaper stuff. I've talked to a fair number of people online though and had good conversations with some people who seemed normal. I'm lucky enough to have a girlfriend who participates in this stuff so we agreed to go to CAPCON for the first time this year. One thing to know is that you need to watch their website and social media like a hawk after they make announcements about it. Getting tickets wasn't hard but you only have like a day before they sell out. Getting a hotel room in the host hotel is absolutely crazy though. They stagger the hotel room sales so that you pay more if you book earlier but you're more likely to get a room. I waited for the cheapest tier of hotel room sales and they sold out in literally ten seconds. As such, we didn't end up staying in the host hotel, but there's other hotels in the area nearby that we booked at once we knew the location. They take secrecy and security very seriously, which I appreciate. If you in any way hint or indicate the location of the hotel or talk to people outside of the con about what's going on you will get banned from the convention permanently. But I've always been paranoid about people in my vanilla life finding out about this so I was actually happy to see that. I went with my girlfriend and just spent most of my time with her but there were a couple of people I knew from the internet I was able to meet up with there and hang out with which was cool and I did end up meeting a couple other people that way. So even though I felt kinda out of place and without an in-group for the most part, I wasn't alone. I wouldn't recommend going solo and knowing absolutely no one. A lot of people have cliques already but if you know someone from the internet or can at least get some introductions to other people, it could be worth it. Activities were pretty varied depending on where you went to find them. I didn't attend many panels or other events but some of the stuff they had scheduled sounded interesting. I did go to the opening and closing ceremonies and the big dance party they have. The dance party was actually way more fun than I expected. Literally felt like being at a rave except everyone was wearing diapers. They had some playrooms with different themes which were fun, but often crowded. My favorite was actually the 'middle-space' room which was set up like a suburban living room and you could just chill and play videogames, or DnD or other stuff. I like to drink and I actually did have some cool conversations with people at the bar but it was just the one hotel bar and it was usually crazy crowded and loud. I thought there was going to be a secondary bar/lounge thing set up but that was actually their casino? I don't understand the point of the casino. I just want to hang out, not gamble. The vendors were cool but most of them are selling more or less the same stuff with some variations. I live close enough to Chicago that I drove to get there this year so I had a few bags of diapers in my car. Next year though I don't think I'll bother since so many people are selling diapers there. There were also some artists selling stuff but I can't justify buying actual physical ABDL art and keeping it around my home. The changing rooms were actually really cool to experience as well and they'll even give you a diaper for free if you want one. Only Crinklz though which suck. I was honestly amazed the changing rooms worked as well as they did. I thought for sure someone would be being gross or weird and ruining it for everyone else. Could you go there with the intention of getting laid? If you're attracted to men then absolutely, if you're attracted to women then maybe? There are actually women there. Yes, even single women. But the odds of you going there, meeting up with an ABDL girl and hooking up are probably astronomical. Do not go with that plan in mind. Pretty much all the women who go have their own friends and cliques as well. Demographics wise it was mostly men, and the largest concentration of trans people I have ever seen in my life. But yes there were cute girls there. And like, legitimate porn stars there. ABDL or otherwise. I don't know how true this is but someone did tell me that in previous years CAPCON had actually had much more female attendance. Close to 50-50. But for whatever reason this year did not reflect that. Although it was fucking brain-breaking for me to see hot girls walking around proudly showing off their diapers and just looking cute I would not recommend going thinking it's going to be like living porn or a fuck-fest. If you are comfortable with the idea of socializing and navigating large groups of con-goers then go with the idea that it is a chance to be openly ABDL and just casually walk around in a diaper and onesie and be open about what you like and what you're into. If that idea sounds worth doing then you'll have a good time. Downsides besides the cost and how it's impossible to book a host hotel room? The crowds are honestly a little much at times. The event sells out every year. Also, there's not much there for food options. And no options for coffee there except for this one shitty coffee machine in the lobby, which pissed me off because I love coffee. Other downside which is kinda on me is that people can be a little weird sometimes. People don't know each other's boundaries. Some people are always roleplaying and some people are openly talking about stuff which I would think is gross, but also a lot of people are really cool. Me and my girlfriend are going to try to go again next year as long as we don't have any conflicting plans. Knowing what it's like and a few people now I feel like I'd be able to enjoy it way more by being able to plan out some things to do ahead of time. Any questions about CAPCON I'll answer with whatever info I have.

>>39382 his is a pretty good write up and is my experience too for the most part. i was working one of the vendors for most of the con but i did hit up a few panels and stuff. i enjoyed working the con way more than attending, tbh. it forced me to talk to people and get to know people. im an introvert so it helped a lot. my roomie was a volunteer so he was able to get a guaranteed hotel room at the host hotel which was nice. the previous times ive been, 208 and summercap, i got lucky and got rooms in the host hotel both times. if you've never been i highly recommend trying to get one or finding someone online you click with and splitting the room with them. thats what i did in 2018 and it worked out fine. cap has definitely outgrown the hotel. its a good size, but last year there were like 1500 tickets sold so it was packed pretty much everywhere. rumor is they are releasing some kin of update on their twitter in the next few days.

CAPCON just announced they're going to be doing a secondary, smaller event in January, in Minnesota. I probably wouldn't be able to make it anyway but Minnesota in January? That's gotta be rough.

>>39418 seriously, its going to be cold asf. im debating going, but jesus.

>>39382 how was messing handled? Did anyone try?

>>39418 >>39421 If it's anything like recent years, it won't be that bad. Plus, it's just an excuse to double up on your padding

>>39426 not allowed in public areas, only in hotel rooms. never heard of anyone getting in trouble for it.

>>39426 Like >>39430 said it's not supposed to be allowed in public areas and I never heard about anyone getting in trouble for it. There were definitely some people who stank there but in a BO way not in a shit way. I did see the aftermath of a room party where a JFF girl had messed herself which was cool. One thing I will say which surprised me. The public bathrooms on the con floor were always gross as fuck. That's partially the hotels fault because I think they were just old and janky and the hotel is not maintained that well. But I also thought it was kind of funny considering it's a con where everyone is wearing diapers and yet the bathrooms were still overused and gross.

>>39382 >>39386 This was my experience exactly. One thing I will restate is these cons are NOT for hooking up. Yes people go there and meet others, but the only people hooking up are gay guys. If you are not a gay guy, you are not hooking up unless it's with someone you spoke to outside the con. I went with my girlfriend to diaper meetups around the country and to cons. I've been to places where the only woman at the party was my girlfriend and everyone else was a gay guy. But something that also really needs to be said: meetups and cons are not orgies. Most are just people talking, some in little space, some drinking, while wearing ABDL clothes. Little space is often not a thing that is prolonged and is often looked down upon because some people are too retarded to understand boundaries. You aren't going to have a changing session while everyone else looks on and calls you or your little cute while you/your little gets changed. That shit happens at best in hotel rooms and once again unless you are a gay guy or you have some arrangement nothing's happening in hotel rooms. So even if you are a gay guy, if you are too retarded to get into a hotel room you aren't doing anything lewd. If you have not been or a meetup or they don't exist near you, you aren't missing out. Save up to go to a con once in your life, you might like it, but it's nothing like the hentai/comics.

The problem with these cons for me has always been why? Socializing is a waste of time. The only real reason to go to cons and network is to put on a fake smile and whatever and try to get into the girls pants and that takes so much effort it's not worth it. Wish people would just be more open. Like, we are all into wearing diapers and peeing ourselves. Just have sex already. Waste of my fucking time to associate with anyone that has so much of a guard up that they refuse to acknowledge the hypocrisy of being closed off to others in an niche fetish enviornment.

>>39627 As has been said before if you're into men then you can make that happen. And if you're into women it's possible but way, way less likely. Also, if you want to do roleplay stuff with a partner there's ways you can make that happen either at an ABDL convention or maybe at a BDSM thing. I know there were people organizing things like that at CAPCON but you've got to be vetted and it's all got to be laid out beforehand to make sure it's consensual. Just not actual penetrative sex. If you're interested in casual sex with sexually open people maybe you should look at swingers conventions? Or I think there's clubs for that sort of thing. I don't know the details but there's something like that here in New Orleans. I also sympathize because before I met my girlfriend I always wished that meeting and connecting with girls into ABDL was easier and more straightforward but this is a weird mindset to go into this with. Like, even if you have compatible kinks women are not going to fuck a guy unless they trust them on some level. Have you ever been to a con or a meetup before? Even if people aren't hooking up there it doesn't feel like a waste of time for me. It just feels good to have this weird thing that's always been a part of me and then have some people around me who have a solidarity with that. Who can understand it. Just the freedom to be open about your kinks and not be judged is a pretty big deal. If you have any desires like that at all CAPCON is a really cool experience regardless of if you're having sex or not.

>>39627 Unless you or your partner are exhibitionists, or as I wrote prior unless you are a gay guy looking for a hookup, there is seriously no point. Going a step further than >>39639 you are simply not finding a diaper wearing girlfriend. You are much more likely just trying to find a regular girl and convincing her to try diapers than you are to find a girl who is already into them and also looking. Even if you are the epitome of daddy dom, you aren't hooking up at a convention.

>>39651 >not finding a diaper wearing girlfriend I've found 2 in my life. While I recognize the rarity of this and the lucky involved on my end (wasn't even looking for a gf at the time in both cases) it does happen. Just not at cons, I would imagine. It's just funny to me in general that these people go to these events and flaunt their sexual fetish and not expect people to want to be sexual with them. It's weird as fuck and people like that are the ones you actually don't want to associate with or waste time with because you will NEVER get them to fully open up with you. Real relationships whether it's purely sexual or romantically based involve fully opening up to your partner. Not doing so severely diminishes the enjoyment of the partnership. Anyone who doesn't understand this has virtually 0 real long term relationship experience and is not worth my time/energy. Period.

>>39627 >The problem with these cons for me has always been why? Socializing is a waste of time. Being able to openly dress in littles clothing and walk around enjoying the aura of acceptance is one big reason for me. If you're going to a con or kink event in general with the idea of treating it like a hookup spot, of course you'll never get anywhere. If you want a quick fuck, pay a hooker for it and be done with it. Otherwise, you have to aim to have friends first and a play partner later. Most of the women at these events already have their Daddy/Mommy figure anyways, it's an uphill battle.

Watching this disaster of a thread, thinking how sad I am that I can't find a caretaker in WV. Feels bad bros and sisters.

>>39710 >WV You'd think down south you'd be able to get at least some fat ugly trailer park mom to baby you for a few bucks. But I dunno, I've never lived down there so I wouldn't have a clue.

>>39673 >Being able to openly dress in littles clothing and walk around enjoying the aura of acceptance is one big reason for me. This would be SO MUCH my jam is insane, I have been trying to make it happen in Fetlife but the little scene has vanished entirely and there are heaps of creeps and creepy trannies around (probably thats why) The very few occasions that I showed up at a small event and was able to wear cute clothes and be surrounded by other littles, and play silly games and just enjoy myself in an innocent childish way has been beautiful like I managed open up my heart a bit and let part of my soul see the sun which usually doesn't. I enjoy this sexually yes, but in front of strangers I do like to take a bit of step back and simply rebel in little silly emotions And I was

>>39745 Ah messed up the last post. And when I was considering going to KangaCon and fucking covid happened ☹️

>>39738 Nah. WV was part of the Union, since apparently people still don't know it... and I don't get why everyone thinks that a prostitute is even worth coming by, let alone that easy. Most other people run the fuck away, if they don't start some violence about "identifying as a kid makes you a pedo".

>>39670 That's incredibly rare. In the scene I have only met a handful of girls into diapers off the bat, and they are not looking for guys if looking at all. But I agree and yet somewhat disagree, a lot of these events are fetish events and should probably have some underlying aura of kink. But I 100% agree a lot of people go way too far and too quickly. >>39745 Fetlife showed me that the kink scene is dead if you are not gay or some weird combination of progressive nightmare. All the straight girls do it for pay and will hate you for buying them. The gay guys are still there if you're into that. Otherwise you're looking at nonbinary hambeasts and insane people, some of which are okay in short bursts or in kink meetups but you would never want any lasting relationship with them. There are some beacons of hope in the community and you will know them when you see them, they're the ones who you know will lead you to a good meetup if you get to know them. To anyone reading this, by advice is whether or not you are gay just go to meetups. Chill with people and get to know the cool ones. Ask about events. It's not easy and it will take time but it's much better than sitting in your room in diapers wondering if some cute girl will show up someday.

Has anyone did a meetup to mess? How was it?

>>39745 There's still some weird people and a shitload of trans people but CAPCON actually fits this criteria pretty well. I thought it was an amazing experience.

>>39780 What worries me is that the trans thing will continue to grow and will start to impose itself so much that is will scare away the less-mentally fucked up people. Stuff like denying someones sexual advances or not wanting to participate in a particular activity or not wanting to wear a pride symbol or flag or whatever will automatically label you an outcast and an undesirable fascist... Met a group on FL and for a few weeks was ok, but the discussion about political activism appeared one day and its like a worm that infected everyone's brain and they started to try and be increasingly more politically active and combative and just plain angry. They lost focus of the original meaning of littlespaceband just being cute and enjoying innoccent things

>>39786 I've kinda thought about that too, and to be honest I don't have a huge amount of in-person experiences to compare too but I'm not too worried about that. I met a lot of cool people at CAPCON. Some were straight, some were normal, some were trans. I also met some cis-gender straight people who were weird and didn't understand boundaries. Not saying I'm happy about the current demographics. The trans phenomena being so prevalent within ABDL definitely bugs me. But overall I feel like I can live with it.

>>39786 >>39788 I'm in the scene in a very liberal area, and the trans people come in 2 flavors: -absolutely retarded/autistic to the point of weird -fairly "normal" and well adjusted I have not come across any trans militants or anyone forcing some sort of acceptance or other bullshit. Every munch I've been to the only people asking about pronouns are trans people, everyone else is normal, and even most trans people don't ask or care. The ones who do tend to not last long in the community. One thing I noticed is the number of conservative people who are hiding it. Especially the older crowd. Not hardline conservative sure, but people who are not with the weird pushes LGBT has done. Even with trans people in the conversation, the last few topics I remember talking about gays were: -LGBT is commercialized to shit -Pride is commercialized to shit (to which someone said they "fucking hate pride") -LGBT and pride are becoming fads -Militant trans people are getting normal people to hate all trans people as a result -the youngest generation is batshit insane There are also a few religious people as well. Not as out about it but I've seen a few people wearing crosses or yarmulkes. But in general politics is something only seen online, it almost never crosses over into real life. There are only two things I can think of which contradict what I mentioned above. The first is location. If you are in California, everything I said above goes out the window. California's kink scene is super regimented and full of protocol. For example, people who wear collars or leather don't just do so on a whim when it comes to California's strictness of which community you belong to or who you belong to. I've met people from California who are pleasantly surprised at how "chill" the community is elsewhere. The second I mentioned before: generation. The younger the people are, the more progressive they are. The more progressive they are, the more they demand you use pronouns and wear flags. The good news is they tend to stick to themselves. Any young person (over 21) you see coming to a general munch tends to be more chill. That's why I'm pretty happy with how the scene is going. The young crazy people stay with each other and in enclaves elsewhere while the relatively "normal" people are pretty cool with each other.

See now, this is the stupid shit that makes me doubt all of you. I live in a city of about 300k, I go to work at a university. You'd fucking think I'd run into the kinds of people you guys act like are a dime a dozen. I've met maybe four trans people and none of them act like the shit you guys say. Now I'm a live and let live libertarian and I doubt I'm gonna convince anyone on 8chan of all places but my dudes, you need to go out and meet people or give it a rest. Smoke some fucking weed. There's better shit in life than sperging out about this all the time.

>>39799 Well to be fair I agree with you. I live in a city slightly larger than that and I've only met a couple trans people ever in my daily life. But CAPCON is a whole other deal if you ever go. Absolute shitload of weird trans people.

>>39799 > DUDE WEED LMAO XD These days saying "I'm a libertarian" is like saying "I'm a torie/whig/zorastrian/whatever". You have no party, no representatives, no legislation or organization. You believe yourself to be member of something that doesn't actually exist. That isn't ideology, it's LARP. It's not "independent thinking", it's playing pretend. You are, at best, merely a useful idiot and, at worst, a willful crony for silicon valley soyboys and petrol plunderbunds. You are a clown, just wanted you to know.

>>39804 My friend we probably share more in common than you might think, but if this is your gut reaction to being criticized, you're just going to isolate yourself. Do better m8.

>>39804 Why try to start this discourse in this thread? There's already a political discussion thread for that thin line of overlap between ABDL and politics.

>>39799 >I live in a city of about 300k I live in a city of millions. "I've never seen it so it doesn't exist" is an awful argument. Congratulations on derailing the thread as well.

A bigger roadblock for me (besides generally crippling social anxiety) is the age gap. I'm looking at going to a local meetup this month, but I'm looking at the attendees list on Fetlife and I'm the only person in my 20s, with the majority being anywhere from late 30s to early 50s. It's a public vanilla event so I'm not looking for hookups or playmates or anything, but best case scenario, I'm not going to be making any sort of relatable friends and it's just gonna be awkwardly hanging out for like an hour tops before leaving. I know there's other people my age on Fetlife and in said group, but I probably won't even go because of that.

>>39835 And your anecdotes are evidence it does? I have the ideal makings to see what you guys are projecting, and I still don't see it. I could give a shit less if it didn't just make us as a group look like fucking assholes.

>>39839 That's one thing you're going to have to get over when it comes to the ABDL and any other kink scene: there are a lot more older people than younger people. Older people have the means of being able to pay for their fetishes. There are also way more years past the 30 to do kink than there are between 18 and 30. I suggest making friends with anyone who is nice in general, it'll help you a lot more when you get older. Unless you are trying to discuss the latest episode of skibidi toilet, I doubt you have nothing in common with most people who will likely be talking about diapers and little stuff.

>>39804 Not samefag but just wanted to let you know that you're also a clown in the eyes of others. Your worldview is not the only world view, and it is certainly not infallible. Being angry at someone else for having a different opinion of you essentially proves his point about not being able to argue points on a chan board. People like you are stuck in your ways and are not able to accept that things are not always the way you think they are in your head. Your resulting to insults makes you a bigger clown than they could ever be. Just wanted you to know.

>>39804 Also, your meme implies you are republican. If true you have absolutely no ground to stand on. Outside of this little bubble you realize that you are ridiculed at every turn for your backwards ideologies and laughed at by people with legitimate desire to push society forward and make it better, yes? Real shit you should not be talking.

>>39807 >>39858 >>39859 Damn this much butt hurt from a meme and some anon laughing at lolbertarians.

>>39891 >>bullshit didn't land, better play it off as a joke / "why so serious" Own your fucking shit man, most everyone here's been on chans long enough to know the game, don't think we can't see you playing it. It makes us look bad.

>>39810 > post trite platitudes that would have gotten you laughed out of the room 10 years ago > point this out > WHY ARE YOU SHITTING UP THE THREAD DUDE?!? You have fundamentally failed to identify who the low value users ITT thread even are.

Went to a diapered meetup in a dungeon this week and had a lovely time. Met someone and we've been texting like crazy ever since. Super rare that this shit happens, but guess it does. Don't go looking for it, though. Pretty much not gonna happen if you are.

>>39908 I've had the thought that probably being the kind of person to push yourself out of your comfort zone, meet people, go out and do things... like yeah I definitely think it's gonna be rare to meet someone at a con, but it's something that I'd put pictures of on my fetlife and shit. Show you're outgoing and do stuff and you're already making great strides in my mind. (Saging til the thread calms down though)

>>39901 >argument based on what would have happened 10 years ago You're 100% a republican. Kill yourself.

>>39914 >kill yourself Dilate uwu

>>39859 >>39914 >le republican has arrived US politics nigger, an hero

>>39930 >>39941 Yep, that's what I thought.

>>39914 >>39945 The funny thing is we don't need to tell you to kill yourself. statistics and reality means we can just sit back and laugh.

Can I please have one - just one - fucking thread without politics eventually shitting it up between now and November? Thanks in advance, plz kys if you can't manage this. No, I don't give a fuck about what party you sexually identify as, you all fucking suck at this point because none of you shut the fuck up and all of you ruin fucking everything.

>>40497 It probably won't even go away after the election. Website owners have realized that the constant stream of outrage from politics-obsessed autists drives up site traffic. They only care about the money, so they let it happen even if it significantly drags down the overall quality of posts and discussion. I don't think we're ever going back.

>>40491 >replies to a 2 week only comment >not expecting to be laughed at LMAO. But in all seriousness I'm not sure of the statistics but just thinking logically I'd assume that most kids that kill themselves usually have an easy way to so. i.e, a gun. A usually (not always, but usually) gun owners are redneck republican trash that have no critical thinking skills, live either in a trailer or off their daddys life savings, own a truck or watch truck shows, and have a serious lack of education about gun safety as well as a general lack of interest in actually paying attention to their son or daughter's feelings. "Suck it up buckaroo", is a phrase that gets said by your kind quite often. I wonder how many children have died as a result of your kinds lack of understanding of the human emotion or a lack of desire to truly understand their child. Again, you're a fucking clown. No amount of words or witty replies will ever get me to think differently. I'd spit in your fucking face regardless of whether I could take you or not just to see you get mad. Just don't reply. You're a waste, and you're wasting your time. Unless you want to post your actual contact details here? I'd gladly rid the world of one less degenerate Trump voter. Not that we need the votes, but you know, just in case. How'd that debate go by the way? Yikes.

>>39945 >>40516 I'm not the other guy, I'm not American, you talk too much, you will never be a woman, rope yourself.

Since this is a meetup thread, you think you faggots could meet somewhere and either fuck or fight each other? Maybe a rousing sesson of group suicide? It's the weekend, go have fun or something.

>>40516 You sound like a bigot.

>>40516 > daddy issues: the post I hope you know that by announcing sage (which you do not even know the purpose of) all you're doing is showing you're the only one that has a problem with everyone else.

>>40518 I'm a straight male. How about you post your contact details so you can say that to my face though? No? Then shut your mouth. I'd cook you. >>40531 Whatever makes you sleep at night. I mean, we all have to believe we are right you know? But boy, the shit you tell yourself must be unhinged. >>40532 I was around for the haboo raid while you were most likely still getting breastfead. Kill yourself.

>>40544 Oh, the irony. I've seen AIs more self-aware than you.

>>40544 > was around for the haboo raid while you were most likely still getting breastfead Yeah well I was there for when we blew up that van so up yours, nigger

>>40547 That's what I thought. >>40565 >we You didn't do shit you autist.

>>40544 I live in Europe, you faghead mutt. You'd cook me with burgers and fries, maybe. And that's if you could roll out of bed without stepping on your own fat flaps.

>>40566 For what it's worth, I see you anon, and I feel that pain.

>>40596 >I'm poor we don't care

>>40597 I'd do it on video for someone if I had that kind of online fren, but nothing beats the desire of someone putting the enema in me and watching the results fuuuuuuck

>>40615 Too bad I'm in the top 3% of earners. How much do you earn, wagie?