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/hsrg/ - Honkai: Star Rail General Anonymous 09/24/2025 (Wed) 02:23:36 Id: d653b4 No. 1011396
Previous: >>871916 >Version 3.6 "Back to Earth in Evernight" Special Program https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpRDn1lgLlg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA9GcVHzwV8 >Download - https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/en-us/home >3.6 Preview Page - https://act.hoyoverse.com/puzzle/hkrpg/e20250912version_1303/index.html >Version 3.6 Trailer — Back to Earth in Evernight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2B_woXdf_E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G2ErfYy2TI >Myriad Celestia Trailer: "Dear March 7th" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWzgwpiesoE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DiNQTXmVOw >Current Character Banners: Cerydra, Silver Wolf + Sampo, Qingque, Dan Heng - https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40842953 >New Drip Marketing: >Cyrene (5* Ice Remembrance) - https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40966507 >Redeemable Codes - https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/gift TB39Z7X49NZ7 (NEW) STARRAILGIFT LIFTTHEKING >/hsrg/ Tools & Resources https://rentry.org/hsrg-resources-14 >/hsrg/ Thread Template https://rentry.org/hsrg-thread-template-14
>>1084151 Trailblazer is getting purposely kicked out of the story specially after 3.4 so I wouldn't be surprised if they just die for half of 3.7 then Elysia revives them.
>>1084159 At this point them being dead actually just makes no difference at all except for one less motivation for other characters to develop while they lag behind. I mean, come on, we just got done being frozen in time and doing absolutely nothing through a whole cycle in Cerydra's patch because the first genius waved their hands at TB and now Dan heng gets to be the one who journeys through the entire world a bunch of times and gets a cool new alt and stuff, this part of the story was so dissapointing for me, I didn't really get the point of evernight either but at least she's really hot. I was actually starting to enjoy enjoy the plot back in 3.4 when we had TB physically being Phainon's partner in battle and both of them unironically relying on each other to succeed but now it just feels like the writer fell back to his old tropes of having (You) be rescued by whoever is currently on banner in hopes of getting you to roll for them, which just has the opposite effect on me since I think its the most boring thing ever. Before 3.0 it was unthinkable for me to skip a March alt
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>>1084189 Oh yeah, 3.3 was actually the patch that did the being Phainon's partner quite nice with the Aquila fight but selling the expies is priority so I expect TB to not be present or just react to whatever Elysia says. I personally enjoyed Dan's segment in 3.6 a lot and the issue was Evernight's deal getting solved so quick after not having March around for so long and god Evernight is so hot but kinda wasted.
GODgenti
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>>1084231 Idrila wills it so >>1084238 Can't wait until we get to Melustanin for this exact moment
>>1084216 I didn't think it was all that bad but I just hate when they make some characters look cool at the expense of TB specifically because of how many times they've done it already throughout the story, it just felt lame that while he was out doing a bunch of stuff you're apparently just frozen? again? doing absolutely nothing while everyone else runs around doing stuff. I also didn't feel particularly giddy or happy at all when he pulled TB out of the hole so the dialogue lines of "I missed you so much" and other things like that just missed the mark completely for me. The moment with March was sweet but as you said Evernight was just kind of wasted, which is a real shame since she looks really good, she might be my favorite from Amphoreus in terms of looks
>>1084252 It does feel weird how TB was helping even if it was just using the Oronyx powers to solve the puzzles for other heirs then the moment the inherit the deliverer position they actively are reduced to being a damsel in distress.
>>1084264 Couldn't have put it better myself, its like the Deliverer title just instantly made them turn useless. And it particularly sucks here in my opinion because I want TB specifically to have character development because of Amphoreus, I don't want this game's MC to just be a trash raccoon anymore but I'm not sure if that's the direction they want to head in, I think they very much just want the TB to be a cameraman/woman for the playable characters and to act as comic relief with the quirky dialogue options 90% of the time. This could change if they delve more into Stellaron hunter content which seems to be the only type of story in game currently where TB actually behaves normally but I don't know, maybe I'm better off just not having any expectations for this character so I don't get dissapointed again, we're about to head into the finale of the region and I'm just bummed out because of this so clearly I'm either looking at it from the wrong perspective and TB was never meant to be someone important in this instance or the story just missed the mark for me. I just miss when it was more like that one Kafka quest where we could pick a bunch of different dialogue options that showed different sides of TB while also being important to the outcome of the quest itself
>>1084281 It also depends on the region writer, the flame chasers arc MC in HI3 was Mei but Shaoji also reduced her to be a cameraman for the FCs and an Elysia simp when it was her turn to have character development.
>>1084304 Yeah, I think I might just dislike this writer's style in general then, seems like he can't properly make you regard a character highly without putting down others as sacrifice, I'm pretty sure after the big backlash that this region had he's not going to get used again in the next region I think, so at least the story has that going for it moving forward
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>>1084316 Yeah,should be a different writer so we will still get the racoon dialogue options but TB should be able to exist in the story instead of getting kicked out as much. My main issue is that it only feels extra shit for Amphoreus because TB wasn't looking to be the hero of some planet but this is also the writing that puts the deliverer title on their shoulders so this was the one planet where TB being the main hero was more fitting yet here we are.
V3 tomorrow night (est)
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I caved and rolled for Evershart Threw some mid relics on her, what should I aim to improve here
>>1084189 I seriously don't understand why TB has to be kidnapped so much. Like why do they keep taking agency away from the MC? It feels more and more like they want to remove them from the story altogether.
>>1087206 I think the idea was for Phainon to act as the MC replacement and for TB to witness his story (it's like TB is recording the heroes' story in As I've Written as an outsider/storyteller). Which just didn't work out at all and lead to player complaints, hence the rushed rewrites that replaced Phainon glazing with TB glazing but TB's lack of agency is a remnant of that former idea.
you can't have agency in a game that isn't designed around player choice. this isn't bg3/mass effect/newvegas/dragonage(1)/divinity/disco elysium. this is a chinese visual novel / japanese anime episodes and is structured like one
>>1087360 If that's the case then the problem switches to what the Trailblazer's character is meant to be, because right now they're just a dunce that needs saving on every story episode that simultaneously never gets any character development AND looks the same as they did in 1.0 while every other character is getting new outfits and powers. If they're meant to just be a lens to watch the other characters from you might aswell just remove them and make use of the POV switch feature they introduced to just put the entire focus on the playable characters instead. I feel no desire to play as a puppet that spouts out jokes, gets beaten by every threat on screen despite having what's supposed to be an energy core that can destroy planets in place of their heart and never actually talks to other characters normally besides a few lackluster lines here and there
>>1087360 Any story with characters can have agency. It just means that the characters themselves are making choices.
>>1087488 by that definition of "agency" tb does have agency. doing nothing and flopping around is also a choice even if you don't like it. it sounds like you retards just want tb to get sucked off on every scene and aura farm 24/7. cringe teenager shit tbh
>>1087594 Both when they're acting and doing nothing, it's not by the TB's choice but because someone told them to do it or restrained them respectively
>>1087594 How does wanting a character to actually choose to do something equate to wanting them to aura farming and being sucked off of? Those are entirely separate things.
>>1087594 That's just the same retarded excuse people who like shitty anime like my hero academia use when you say that anime's main character is a faggot. Nobody here has said even a single time that they want TB to beat up every threat in the story and win all of their battles, that's literally just your brainrot speaking.
>>1087620 >>1087632 >>1087668 tb is a newborn in an universe filled with beings that has millennia of experience and time to accrue power to act on said experience. tb knows nothing and can't do anything is in fact, true and canon. moreover, hsr has always been about sharing screentime with other beings in the universe. your first gameplay was literally through the perspective of kafka and silverwoof. hsr was NEVER tb centric nor will it be. because this game isn't structured like a (((trad))) wrpg/crpg/jpg where MC's journey and growth is generally the focus of the game. if the whole hard baked perspective shifting storytelling method hasn't taught you that TB is just one character in an universe of many then i suggest you quit while you're ahead because other characters WILL be wanked more than tb and this game's story is mostly just jumping from one spectacle to the other.
>>1087683 >if the whole hard baked perspective shifting storytelling method hasn't taught you that TB is just one character in an universe of many then i suggest you quit while you're ahead because other characters WILL be wanked more than tb and this game's story is mostly just jumping from one spectacle to the other. It could be done way better if this was the developers intent, instead of following the trailblazers and playing as caelus/stelle it should jump around the multiple planets/spaceships and completely focus on those in an episodic fashion with crossovers when required
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>>1087952 in trad wrpg/crpg/jrpgs where MC's journey and growth is the focus of the game the outcome of other characters/universe is the result of player's choice (agency). this is satisfying because the overall narrative is reactive to our choice. action has logical consequences. the ultimate powertrip fantasy in a way. the storytelling method hsr chose to deploy doesn't always necessarily result in the growth of the MC, nor do we have a say in the narrative outcomes. i can see why niggas get frustrated over it but ultimately hsr isn't designed for for player reactivity. it's a live service game that has to operate within certain constraints. hsr's story intention is to grow the universe so they don't write themselves into a corner and have sufficient supply of antagonists/situations to create "hyyyype" moments for years. hsr also focuses on other characters because they have banners to sell to fund the continued development of the game. and it saves them money to keep everyone on the same narrative instead of having to develop branching reactive narratives. i'm not saying hsr can't do better, and generally i much prefer the trad method. i just think it's unrealistic to demand hsr to do a complete 180 when the format was never the trad method from the beginning. and quite frankly not every game needs to be MC centric. it's nice to (((witness))) NPCs' and PLACEs' struggles and overcoming them (Belobog for an example), it's nice to have a fairly diverse game universe that's constantly expanding (where trad games would end because the MC finished their journey). it's nice to do nothing and just watch the spectacle. once viewing hsr through that lens and expectations then it's easier to enjoy it for what it is instead of hoping it's something its not and will never be.
The next planet's really going to have a lot of alts isn't it?
>>1088156 >lose 50/50 on Blade >get Blade I can already see it happening.
>>1088156 ngl that looks like a photoshop
>>1088141 >it's a live service game that has to operate within certain constraints. I can agree with that, its difficult for me to see a way for an online game to have multiple choices that actually impact the story without requiring significant branching out into different plotlines and requiring to either add multiple save files of sorts or fresh accounts separate for specific lines >>1088156 Is that jewelery or gaps in the bandages?
>>1087683 And yet the thing they keep trying to push narrative wise whenever they bring in Kafka is that TB's choices matter and that even if the script is set, they can still adjust within it. And again, this literally has nothing to do with wanking TB. It has everything to do with them being the MC and telling a story from their perspective.
Post your beautiful tradwife.
>>1088469 We love Trigger


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