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/zzz/ - Zenless Zone Zero General Anonymous 09/14/2025 (Sun) 17:06:20 Id: 329ce1 No. 974804
Previous: >>970103 >News Agent Record | Yidhari https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40707205 Agent Record | Komano Manato https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40688172 Agent Record | Lucia https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40687818 Version 2.2 Special Program https://youtu.be/-WZRmhZWcfU >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo https://youtu.be/QKJj_AUOMTY (EN) https://youtu.be/B42cNUVgzWU (JP) https://youtu.be/yVudzVUiBBQ (EN) https://youtu.be/pqOJai2C7S0 (JP) https://youtu.be/LENKDAuyIwc (EN) https://youtu.be/67IxXAtJelE (JP) >Upcoming Events for 2.2 https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/159176 All-New Program 09/03 - 10/14 Floral Voyage Into the Unknown 09/03 - 10/13 Band of Brave Bangboo 09/05 - 10/13 Wish Bottle Adrift 09/05 - 09/29 Spotlight Showdown 09/13 - 09/29 Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 09/18 - 09/23 "En-Nah" Into Your Lap 09/24 - 10/14 Problem Soldier Boot Camp 09/24 - 10/09 Rhythm Rave 09/29 - 10/13 "En-Nah" Treasure Hunt 10/04 - 10/13 Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 10/09 - 10/14 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online) https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption ZENLESSGIFT ZZZ22OBOLSQUAD >Resources and useful links https://rentry.org/zzzlinks https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends https://interknot-network.com >/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
>>975464 >he hasn't seen the Jordans mod
>>975289 >blatant seed shilling >still shills anomaly
>>975479 stop noticing things
>>975218 for me it's burnice
>>975486 you know ball
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>>975470 Okay yeah no, she rocks that shit.
>>975498 It looks so much better unironically
>>975498 Do the shoes light up by default or is it actually tied to her Wengine effect?
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>>975460 Koleda's still serviceable, she's a fast stunner that you can on-field but also can only use her off-field, then swap to dump 2 EX attacks and back. Her problem is she doesn't have any other teammates that really benefit from her 70% chain attack damage increase other than Evelyn. And everyone has either Lighter of Fufu, which both provide buffs at all times, not only during the stun window
>>975460 tbf lycaon mogs all the other standards, but yes it's actually insane how different in power their kits are
>>975535 Nicole destroys the S rank standards as a FREE A RANK and one of the first characters you get. HER GAME.
>>975507 It's tied to her wengine effect but can be toggled off. Pretty neat, to be honest.
Anyone noticed that agent design has moved away from element being a major factor btw? Like the last character that had super element-specific buffs was Lighter. I was expecting to have a dedicated phys or electric buffer by now similar to him, but agent design is more generalized now
>>975541 That's good, it means I can roll only for characters I like and still have playable teams.
>>975541 It's really just Lighter that's tied to element honestly, maybe Jane because she can act as a crit enabler on mono-phys teams, all other limiteds don't care. Technically Vivian has different modifiers for different elements but that's just to counterbalance inherent difference in Anomaly multipliers. Standard characters are tied to specific elements or damage types because that's just how these games usually work, lower rarity characters get assigned to a niche and play predominantly in that niche.
>>975541 The problem with making an Element specific buffer is that their potential teams are more limited than class-specific buffers. Like Lighter is only good for Fire or Ice Attacker teams and Meebs I guess but she's basically an attacker anyway But buffers like Yuzuha/Lucia can fit into any Anomaly/Rupture team, so more people will be able to make use of them, so more people will end up pulling them.
>>975541 >agent design is more generalized now that's a good thing because last thing you want is to have to roll for the entire faction just to have a functional team.
What exactly can they do to Caesar to make her better, increase the buffs she gives? Make her (and other defenders) ult not completely useless? She doesn’t have lost void gear to draw from for ways to make her better
>>975555 I'm fine with it personally but it just means Lighter props up the fire and ice agents insanely high when if you don't have him and your hugo/ellen team is getting hit with the miyabi nerf onslaught it feels pretty awful
>>975541 Once we have a 40% element resist boss in every flavor we may see them make use of it again
>>975559 >Lighter is only good for Fire or Ice Attacker teams and Meebs I guess but she's basically an attacker anyway He's good for any Fire and Ice characters because he provides RES shred and damage bonus, the problem with running him with Anomaly or Rupture is that you need the third character to be a SoC character to make his passive work. Burnice can main DPS with Lighter for example and you aren't even locked into either Caesar nor Lucy for the third teammate.
>>975563 I don't think she needs a buff just because she's outclassed by other supports. She still does her job.
>>975563 Make a new mechanic- off-field parries. When you're on your DPS, you can Parry with Caesar but it won't switch into her, she will do her parry off-field with her EX follow-up with sufficient energy, all that while you can still deal damage with your DPS. That would be enough for her.
Talk me out of rolling Seed's ball, I'm finding I'm struggling atm but if I roll for it I probably won't be able to get Orphie
>>975563 First they have to go back to the drawing board and try to figure out how to make Defenders on par with Support agents while still maintaining some sort of unique aspect/gimmick for the Defense class. Especially since now they can't really make them DPS agents since Rupture is basically just Attacker but tanky I doubt we'll see any Caesar buffs until we get the next limited Defense agent.
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>>975571 This...Is actually a pretty neat idea. Making it so a DA with Caesar doesn't actually swap into her unless you hold the button down, possibly. Maybe also increase the daze it does. There's something here, definitely.
>>975573 AGENT > BALL
>>975573 I was in the same situation, but I didn't get early ball in first 40 pulls so I'm saving for Orphie, playing Seed with Orphie would be much more fun than Seed + ball without Orphie
>>975573 rolling ball surely will increase your margin of performance, but wont fix the underlying issue that there is a lack of disks/team synergy/practice
>>975573 Just think of the dread you'll feel when Orphie's banner rolls around and you use up all of your remaining pulls but don't get her.
>>975573 Consider your budget. If you have enough to risk a couple of yolo pulls, go for it. If not, save.
>>975564 Funnily enough Lighter isn't even that big of a deal for his niche, when Fufu came out tests with her in his place only scored ~15% lower. Also next patch they're introducing ice weak but unfreezable bosses, that'll mainly hinder Miyabi, other Ice DPS still enjoy freeze for stun extension and interruption in general, but it's not as crucial for them.
>>975573 I rolled Seed's ball, but I don't think it's that impactful. My Seed is doing amazing, but I also have M1W1 Trigger
>>975573 >I'm finding I'm struggling atm How? What teams are you using? She's basically Astra but she can punch how are you struggling


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