>>1050127
>NTA, but Age of the God level heroes are often nerfed by their servant containers.
To elaborate, here is why Saber is stronger as a human, than as a servant.
Mana Burst is what allows her to pull off her supernatural feats. Without Mana Burst, she has the strength of a 14 year old girl.
Under Shirou, Saber cannot pour a lot of mana into Mana Burst because her Dragon Core has been nerfed and Shirou isn't giving her enough mana to compensate for this.
Under Rin and Kiritsugu, her stats noticeably improve, because she's getting more mana, but she's still not able to casually spam sword beams and pull off Herculean levels of strength.
Under Sakura, we finally start to see how a living Saber would look like. Because just like with a living Saber, Saber Alter has a truly obscene amount of mana, so she can just dump insane amounts into Mana Burst, enough for her to casually spam sword beams and bitch slap Hercule across a battlefield.
This Saber STILL isn't Saber at her peak, because her servant container has cucked her out of Rhongomyniad and Avalon.
>>1050139
We're obviously talking about heroes at their peak. Why would I compare a non prime Hercules to his heroic spirit self?
>>1050144
>No, you didn't. But the argument you are having with me started when I said servants were stronger than their flesh and blood selves.
No. Not ALL servants are stronger than their living selves.
>If you are of the opinion that the living version was the stronger one then you must defend that position now by telling me how living Corday is stronger than servant Corday.
I don't have to make this argument because I never made it. I never once said EVERY living hero was stronger than their heroic spirit self.