>>1173054 Theres still costume gacha. Still counts

Also I highly recommend using JP voices. EN is just awful and makes the story unwatchable

>>1173200 Yeah, I play with Japanese voices too. It's funny how EN says Filthoid like it's a slur but that's about it.

>>1173203 I wanna get Sibylle and Lynn.

>>1173054 I want to have sex with Truffle & Tabethe.

>>1173054 So how does this work? Does it have dailies/weeklies like Genshin? Insane RNG grind to get characters/weapons like Warframe? Stamina system? I can see there's weekly rogue-like and boss from >>1173203

>>1173231 >Does it have dailies and weeklies Yes >Does it have a similar grind to Warframe Yes >does it have stamina No

>>1173231 There's dailies but they're very low impact and won't really set yourself behind if you miss them but there's weekly stuff that's actually important though so you would want to log in at least once a week. Other than that, there's no stamina or gacha preventing you from grinding all day if your heart desires. Characters are obtained from farming their secret letters and/or fragments while the method to obtain said secret letters depends on the specific character you want. Each Secret letter you run is a farming stage where you have a 10% chance to get 10 fragments of them as the jackpot, 2 fragments of them as the silver reward and fodder trash as the bronze reward. It takes 30 fragments to unlock a character and anyone in the chart listed as "Free" or "Shop" is really easy to farm or get started with.

>>1173252 Alright that sounds on-par with Warframe, I'll give your game a try.

>thread Nice, I have one question, how does the monthly pass works, anyone tested it? It mainly gives you pulls for the standard banner, but I need to know if I have to log in daily for it or can I skip days and then get all the currency at once from all the missed days. I don't plan to login every day for chores. >>1173200 >EN is just awful and makes the story unwatchable Nah, this game has a very good EN voice acting.

>>1173291 Glad you enjoy the EN voices. Both the fem MC and Psyche sound like nails on a chalkboard

>>1173302 They have nice and pleasant whispering voices, I could listen to their ASMR

Completed the intro and it looks pretty good so far. Controls are tight, graphics is good - no issues running on max on 60 FPS @ 1440p with a 6800XT. Btw here's some codes I found: EPICGAMESDNA DNALIVE DNAGLOBAL DNABYSSGIFT DNAGIFT DNARELEASE DNAFREEPLAY DNA1028 DNALAUNCH

>>1173481 Theres some extra codes in there that wasnt on their Discord. Community is slacking

>>1173221 and lisbell watches?

Why isnt the hottest hag playable?

LMAO get fuck

What the fuck happened? Why did Tabethe look so much more different in the first trailer vs release? >Skin was more greyish, matching her splash art >Eyes and mouth were further apart, resulting in a smaller forehead >Lack of thick black outlines, something that was for whatever reason added to her final model, which shows an artstyle change >Overall had way more of a gremlin look to her, vs looking like a toddler in bad cosplay as she does now She's not the only one either, even Rebecca looked different and more like her splash art

>>1177803 this is from the 2024 trailer where did you take that middle shot?

>>1173481 DENAABINIJI

>>1178876 >this is from the 2024 trailer >where did you take that middle shot? The 2023 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQHD1d9QffM&t=217s

how do I reroll?

Big update notice https://nitter.poast.org/DNAbyss_EN/status/1983844015247122912#m One important change from this: >Besides fixed rewards, Secret Letter Clues now have a chance to drop from enemies in all commission gameplay, with rates increasing alongside your Trial Rank. Drop info has already been added in-game. Now every single shitty mob in commissions have a chance to give you secret letters to exchange for characters And goodies from the patch >Prismatic Hourglass ×10 >Secret Letter Clue ×200 >Commission Manual: Volume Ⅲ ×5 >Distributed at: October 30, 2025, 18:00 (UTC +8) >Claimable by: November 24, 2025, 23:59 (server time) >>1181580 >re-rolling for skins

so they're going to put an impossible puzzle like this in the MAIN STORY? I cant continue it anymore, I spam failed over 20 times to make sure if there was a retard proof mechanic and there is none, its random each time btw so I cant even look it up

>randomly found this Geniemon in a chest >passively increases EXP and loot gain, and shows hidden chest I wonder if I got extremely lucky or is it like guaranteed after X chests opened, because he sounds to good to not have

>>1187926 omg after I saw this, this morning I got my own too

People werent kidding. The story really picks up after the 1st chapter

>>1189217 The story, characters interactions, dialogue and music are all peak, I love it. Sucks that the gameplay is lacking but they can improve on that with time

>>1189262 I agree. Once Psyche was out of the picture I started to enjoy and care about the characters. Voice acting got better too

Fuck yeah

>joined asia servers for reasons >get chat unlocked >see hieroglyphics I didn't even think about this because it's been a while since I played Warframe. Now I want to go to American servers, but I don't want to redo what I've done. Even if I can skip some of it. Maybe the American chat sucks anyway.

:D >>1191023 >still didn't unlock the chat functions Boy I can't wait to see it be filled with ruskies

>>1187926 >>1188805 That bonus loot works even in commissions. You'll see BONUS drops in the result screens sometimes, even if you don't use the letters to boost drops. So basically, keep this dude equipped while farming unless the fights are so hard you need a geniemon that actually works with your build.

>finished Chapter 1 Damn the game is amazing, I love is so much, the story is so fucking good and all the character and dialogue are top-notch. Even someone like Outsider turned out to be a nice bro and a compelling character. I seriously hope this game lives on.

>>1191714 It just gets better from there. The character writing is suprisingly decent for a (former) gacha

>>1191619 yeah it is nice but wait does it also apply to the secret letter stuff? or is this because I used some of the bonus stuff?

Goddamn this story

>>1192172 They did add Secret Letter drops as random loot, so maybe there is a chance?

>>1192517 Guess every 3D gacha game has to include a Vergil chair. There will be one in Endfield, one in Ananta, one in Neverness to Everness etc.

I'm annoyed that Lynn's "peace-makers" are only at 12% base crit chance. With the current shitty Consonance mods, the crit chance can only go up to 18%... I was really hoping she'd have decent crits like what she was inspired from. I guess hitting everything all at once is the trade-off they settled for.

cool game

>Enter co-op >Stutter a bit >Get randomly thrown out >Have to somehow finish 15 co-op games for event

>Playing co-op Just wait for Lunoloot to add new event quests

>>1196809 The missions refresh every 3-4 days, you don't need to do all of them at once

I dunno who to get after Lisbel Who's fun

>>1197407 Lynn is a walking nuke. Worth getting

Friend of mine is telling me this is anime warframe and is trying to get me to play it. What am I in for?

>>1198917 Very good story with actual characters, interesting setting and the most beatiful music made in the recent years for vidya on the level of Nier Automata. But the combat is slightly lacking so far, it's very hack 'n slash and the game throws up to 50 enemies at you at once, but there's not much combo complexity, you just use the skills and weapons you have to kill shit. It does play like Warframe.

>>1198937 They should, at the very least, add one more active ability to characters. Right now with Berenica and Lisbell all i ever do is spam E and the stage completes itself. It's like i'm playing a mindless musou game.

>>1200577 Do combos even matter for anything? I noticed range doesnt contribute to combo either

>>1201369 it matters for her because it makes her sword bigger and her CA does more dmg the higher the combo

>>1201430 Ah so she is more of a trash clear unit rather than bossing

>>1201454 Yeah her bossing strat is kinda like playing greatsword in monsterhunter You look for opportunities to slam while swinging your wep around to build combo

>>1201454 yeah weirdly ive seen her listed on guide websites as "single target DPS" when she feels more AoE to build combo super fast >>1203708 WHAT THE HELL IS THAT, how do I get those chainsaws and do that wtf

>>1203818 The chainsawgun is a weekly drop Her I2 allows you to rack up combos from bonus effects (which when used normally lets her passive rack up combo faster since it boosts trigger probability) In the particular vid it kinda works because even though swapping back to Samael resets her combo (around 8s of the vid) the projectiles linger on the field to proc bonus hits with the sword out and thus battery her combo allowing you to spam full charge slams Some might argue this is technically a bug Some argue its a feature

>>1203708 I've been doing this but with Silverwhite Edict and Momiji was looking at that weapon and wondering if it did what I thought it would do (which it does), but since I went all in for her intron on weeklies I couldn't get it that can be done even faster btw, any instance of Bonus or Additional damage can proc its own status as well, so Daphne or the Lumino pet can each add 1 to the counter per hit looking at Fina, if I'm understanding what she does she adds 5 instances of additional damage by cycling her ultimate, might be able to do this on Momiji with no gun

>>1204228 to me, bugs are a feature until they get patched, if its still in the game, then its a feature, but damn I def need to get that

>bring hellfire into low level stuff because mine can't do high level content easily >someone think she's op and wants to farm for her now I'm the bad guy >>1203708 >>1205007 nice whenever I get to 55 I might put together something like this too

Unfortunately missing a log-in also misses the rewards from the monthly subscription, if you don't plan on logging in daily there's no reason to buy it

>>1210766 It's super easy to fill up. I'm already at level 47.

>>1210766 no shit, but also don't buy the monthly, the normal phoxene can't be used on almost anything, people are pretty mad about it they added 1 gold book on purchase and 1 blue book per day, but people want their pulls 1 blue book is 1/15th of what you get by doing your dailies (30 greens) so it's pretty much nothing hard to say what would be right to give if they absolutely hate the idea of it giving the actual premium currency, because right now people are starving for materials and currency, but it's not hard to see a future where you're sitting on 500 golden books waiting for the next thing to come out really should just give out the premium phoxene as you would expect

>>1210863 I meant the paid monthly pass, I don't plan to play this game daily as it's a non-gacha, but I though some extra currency for skins wouldn't be bad. But if you don't log-in, you don't get the Phoxene, which sucks >>1203708 Is there any situation where you don't want to be in Samael form with her? And does she still benefit from Demon Wedges on her main weapon while in that form?

>>1210971 I see, people bitching about resources should realize after a couple of months of playing they will have infinite resources, there's no reason to rush things

>>1210984 right now people want to rush to clear the theatre so they can get all of Psyche's letters, plus the amount of farming to do is a bit ridiculous and too multilayered imo, so people want as many books as possible right now like I'm supposed to >farm for 10 Wedge blueprints >farm for 50 of the purple version (sometimes 3 purps, 5 blues which is somehow even worse) >farm 500k gold to craft them all >farm 50k (?) Globules to actually upgrade it and merge all the copies >this is for ONE (1) wedge that insane Globule farm does NOT need to be there, at rank 55 you get 480 per run of escort, you need over 2 days of green books for one single maxed gold wedge on top of actually farming the wedges or you look at weapons too >farm 6 of each part >farm 6 blueprints >farm a trillion luno coins so you can craft 72 and 48 of sand and crystals >farm 1680000 gold for the crafts >farm exp materials and ascension materials that luno coin farm does not need to be there at all it gets to a point where it's a satisfying amount of farming, and then it goes totally overboard with one last insane part

>>1211112 Guess I will wait and see, I take the game slowly and didn't unlock Nocturnal Echos or Theater yet not like I care about unlocking Psyche, from the brief trial she seemed ass to play

>>1211201 theatres arguably the only fomogate going on right now. Majority of i6 lynns are built just to clear theatre with a small portion actually building her for...you know liking her as a chara. If you dont really care about psyche then power to you anon you can just go about doing your own things at your own pace. the comfyness is liberating

damn, im at the point I am always low on the basic money...

>>1215199 I had this problem until I figured out you can farm for shiny pokemon by spamming multiplayer excav since there doesn't seem to be a cap on event spawns

>>1215652 wait, SHINIES!? do they give better effects or just visual

>>1218575 One extra trait slot So 4 instead of 3

>get to the 2nd Chapter with the other MC >you get a cool new uniform that is 10 times better than the base shitty rags >you don't have it equipped through the missions Please tell me I can switch to it later or I will be mildly upset

And finished the act. Holy fucking shit it was peak kino, I'm in awe of how good this story is for a free game

>>1219980 Haven't actually finished the whole story cause I just want to grind when I log in, but I will say that the stuff I've played has been pretty cool too yeah

So what server does you use?

The peaceful and quiet one always

Finally, human rights are unlocked

>>1222795 The stat boost is nice but lvl 55 is your real goal.

>decide to get the golden Pyro wedge for my main girl Hellfire >you need a blueprint from a commission >around 14 letters later I get one >to craft it you need 5 purples >25 captures later I get all 5 >the blueprint gets used up >you can then further amplify the golden wedge with (???), my suspect is another golden wedge >which repeats the whole process Whew lad, I'm glad I'm a story player and don't do hardcore grinding, because the people who will grind for that will have a lot of fun doing that

>>1223491 ah i meant that i got the polearm charge mod now It feels very good being allowed to map travel on Lisbel

>>1223624 it's 10 wedges in total to max one out so 50 purples, the one you tried to do is by far the hardest one due to the droprates being low however, levels 1 and 2 offer massive upgrades, 3 and 4 require 2 wedges each and offer less of an upgrade, and lv 5 requires 3 and it's almost cosmetic you can honestly stop at lv3 for those special wedges, and should consider levels 4-5 to be the equivalent of an umbral forma the other golden wedges though are meant to go to 5, melee Celerity at lv5 is a game changer these are some early tests on letter gold drop rates, it's a weighted chance, meaning it grows until 100% as you open them and then resets on a gold

I really wish it was more active here The halfchan general is already getting occupied by people I don't like

>>1224740 Same. SE being dead isnt helping things either.

>>1224624 I'm glad I'm not autistic and can pretend to ignore this chart >>1224740 There's less normal humans to post with in this world than bots and jeets unfortunately

>>1224740 Halfchan's activity is all thanks to botting. Humans simply can't keep up with that artificial speed. Then you add street shitters, the few actual humans in that site to the mix, and you have unbelievably garbage threads with bots learning from pajeets and parroting the same shit over and over. Fuck "activity". Embrace the comfy.

>28/30 for i1 I really hope that the weekly cap gets raised or they make letter rewards more consistent It's a real punch in the nuts to get 3 drops back to back I actually had pretty solid RNG for Rhythm today but I just didn't get enough letters for the intron

HALLEJUJAH I got it this weekly rotation >>1227178 Yeah I don't like how certain weapons/characters are only in weekly rotations, they should allow you to spend Letter Clues to get more chances at weekly bosses

when's next survey? I have a wishlist of stuff to ask them for

There's an awful lot of wedges, I'm not sure what to prioritize

>>1230101 Most of the important ones are in the lvl65 nocturnal, get 1 of each of the elemental purple ones

I still need to farm a lot of wedges, is this about what I should be aiming for on Lisbel?

I might buy the horse pass I feel a bit ashamed that games have conditioned me to want to spend money on a free product

>>1231532 Why the HP% Nirvana wedges? She doesn't scale off HP just run full Scorch for ATK and get the Lumino one for 40% more Crit

>>1231655 I thought Samael scaled with ATK and skill damage so I just assumed I was meant to mix both

>>1231667 Yeah, she scales with both, but a 96% ATK boost is better than 24% Skill DMG boost

>>1231678 the skill damage is actually way stronger any time you can get a separate multiplier, that's a massive damage increase, for example Margie's passives give 85% ATK, but it's not nearly as good as MC's 8% Weapon Damage

>>1232684 I'm autistic and don't like having dead stats in my wedges

>>1232950 oh yeah the HP% isn't worth it, didn't realize that was what you were talking about

>unpinned it's over Should we migrate to /v/ or something since DNA isn't a gacha? >>1231678 that makes sense, sure

I will be trying to i6 Nifle this week, that'll be my goal

I'm surprised there's still 'mons I haven't found Just found Pearabbit (failed) and Dandemeow (caught) for the first time today Also learned that you can get 'mons to spawn in some commissions, I finally got around to doing capture and my first one gave me a shiny bunniva pretty cool!

Hellfire isn't Satan >>1233204 I'm gonna unlock her tonight. She seems really solid whenever I run into someone playing her so goodluck with your goal

>>1233195 If the thread moves I probably wont follow Not sure how different the thread culture is in general But i'd think non gacha gaymers are less tolerable of DNA then gacha gaymers(?) After all they did rip the gacha out last minute and you can still see remnants of gacha-game like mechanics here and there With that said will be trying WWM in a few days Really hope the cosmetic gacha trend takes off Extremely tired of 50-50 bullshit

>36 thoughts in 13 runs Wasn't ready for that kind of a high roll

>>1233195 Most of the people playing this game are still gacha or gacha adjacent players I think. I say we stay until they kick us out

>>1233195 It was unpinned because BO pinned it for a week for exposure, like CZN and Stellar Sora. Thread is staying here. Like he said on /meta/

>>1234257 >>1234681 >>1234690 alright, I was just wonderin' I'll keep posting here as long as it's up, the catalog's huge here so it's not like we'll get slid off anytime soon

>trial level 54 >levelled all characters except oliver, phantasio, tabetha bros...... im not gonna make it

>>1235130 >levelled all characters except oliver, phantasio, tabetha Bot show you playtime, it's on your profile, I need to see it. I only played for 67 hours since release and the only characters I've gotten beside the guaranteed ones are Hellfire, Rhythm and Psyche, you say you have everyone?

>>1235130 I BELIEB BWO I BELIEBBBBB

>>1235136 That's bs, my progress is the same as yours and I only have Rhythm and Lynn. You get around 50-100 trial xp just from farming. It's impossible not to level when you're grinding

>>1235149 I mean, I'm also trial 53, I'm more surprised about owning all the characters, since like 5 or 6 of them are locked behind weekly challenges

Two down, four to go Is anyone else getting performance issues after one of the recent updates? Game ran flawlessly for me until yesterday and now I'm getting a lot of stutters and freezing

>>1235229 I was getting some stuttering a couple of days ago, but it seems to have resolved itself. It might be a server issue and not a game one. You could try repairing your game from the launcher. It's what I usually do whenever I encounter a graphical bug or get stuck

>>1235136 >>1235181 Unlocking characters wasn't that time consuming. My Lynn is at i3, that's all the introns I've done.

>>1235985 Make that everyone at 50+

ugh I finally hit TR 55, now I can stop grinding to TR 55 and start grinding other stuff :3

After unlocking more wedges to start building up other toons and leveling up, wow Lumino is kind of getting the short end, huh? Anemo wedges are crazy >>1235264 Yeah I'll try that tonight, maybe, if I still have issues

Almost there

Cute...

finally!

>>1241062 Grats, I'm waiting for the weekly reset to start grinding Rhythm's beam weapon, hope I will get lucky and get the blueprint in one cycle

>>1203708 >>1204228 did they nerf this? or am I missing something

btw have we had any spreadsheet nerds go through and calculate whats the best for everyone, everywhere I look its all different and idk whats actually really good for her, this is what ive been running with but at most I hit 500k crits, nowhere near the "1 Mil" I saw people talking about

>>1241570 Maybe check here https://boarhat.gg/games/duet-night-abyss/character/lisbell/ https://dna.interknot-network.com/#character/Lisbell/build

>>1241620 hmm, this has got to be better than what I got going on, still even the builds they show there are all different, seems no one can agree yet

>>1173291 >Nah, this game has a very good EN voice acting. Absolutely agree. The fact that A) they actually have a proper VA director, and not a nepo monkey and B) they are using actors and not famous random people or Murican VAs, makes the whole world of a difference

im pretty sure its not me but I think the server is lagging and all the drops are staying on the floor or they stop halfway trying to float to me and are just suspended lmao, its only visual except I do get teleported every now and then weirdly only when I am doing my combo before I slam down like 20% of the time

>>1241754 >they stop halfway trying to float to me and are just suspended lmao Ammo and potion pickups do that, they fly to you but once you max out they stop immediately

>>1241836 no its not ammo or stuff, its the mob drops, I still get them but visually they just stay there on the ground like the ones in the back, but all the glowing stuff around me is just suspended in the air and its just building up lol

Finally. finally >ascending characters is now 800 XP Whew It must be a fast trip to 60

>>1242213 Gratz bwo the tutorial is finally over! time to push that theatre

>>1242213 >It must be a fast trip to 60

Got my freebie attempt oof, Lisbel suddenly doesn't instakill bosses with her charged attacks now on Monday I have to choose between more ratchet rolls or pumping rhythm to i2 Someone told me to try Lis with gleam & glimmer since it has multiplicative and not additive like Scorch I'll have to farm that up and try it later

I can tell this game is going to be majorly held back by mobile in the future

>>1247657 my nigga, mobile barely works unless you're fishing or managing your forge I would not even bother trying to move, and I have a chinese gaming phone I got this year, my hardware is literally the target hardware

>>1247646 lmk how it goes lisbro >>1247657 it is just look at what happened with wawu

>Finally gained human rights by reaching level 55 >Don't know what to farm because there's too much shit aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Oh Is this what people were bitching about for gold wedges? I have to farm them multiple times?

>>1250497 yeah it's 10 total, but the upgrade goes lower as the requirements go higher first 2 levels for 1, then 2 for another 2 levels and the final one is 3, but the last level is almost cosmetic it's a pretty long farm

idk why my ID keeps changing every time I post btw, is this just me? I'm on a VPN but it's the same I've been using and it never did this, did they change something on the site?

>>1251040 ughhh Well I guess I know what I'll be spending my weekend on besides grinding my last 2 Nifles let's see if that glimmer build has any merit

Idk why something as simple as selling fish is so buggy lol

>>1252030 the bug I've seen with that was the fish that get fake duplicated if you have Boxbro out, but I haven't seen that in a while, I think they fixed it what's the issue?

>>1252200 An unsellable green crab from the sewer fishing spot keeps appearing in my inventory. Really messes with multi selling since you have to manually unselect it every time. I'm not sure if it's a ghost placeholder or one of my fishes is randomly turning into one. I'm not even fishing in the sewers atm. Fishing a real crab *fixes* the issue. I also had that bug you mentioned just a few days ago. I think they fixed it just recently, since all the random unsellable fishes were gone in my inv when I logged in

>>1252285 weird that you can't sell in bulk with that, I've never seen that it usually lets me select everything including the bad ones, will show the total including them, then will sell normally leaving the bad ones there

138 runs worth it, she really does become a completely different character here

>>1253908 I will get my hag up there some day

>>1255377 I think I fucked my progression doing this before 60, I'm gonna miss out on this week's maze and theatre no bigg though she's fun

Sweet I didn't know there's a DNA thread here, now I can dodge the schizos on halfchan. Also I just hit TR60 yesterday, wish you all luck with your gold wedges farming.

>>1258735 >implying I will be farming for gold wedges Miss me with that gay shit I'm TR56 and can barely build my characters

Wao I2 Rhythm is map wiping. She's actually faster in mob clears than Lynn

One day I will wake up to patch notes and weapons will deal real damage and matching preferred weapon types with matter more and using Skill Dmg weapons will no longer be the go to for everyone. One day.

Level 55 at last. I can finally buy that grandmaster fishing rod

>>1264997 Lmao, I was at 28 last week too. I had to wait for this week's reset to get her I2. I wish they would increase the weekly limit. It will take me another couple of months to get her to I6 with my luck

oh, immortal theatre is actually easier than I thought I did act 2 but I could probably go higher once I build up Lynn/Truffle a little better got this girl today too

The fishing grind might be the worst of all

>>1270878 You are using autoreel geniemon right..?

>Bugs galore >Performance slower than watching someone carve on stones >Questionable balance choices even for its gacha roots >No endgame other than the obligatory elemental time attack tower >First expansion is the trademark chinkyland country which is far superior to everyone else and super duper strong! Glory to the party! Long live Xi Jingping! Yep i'm out.

>>1271579 The At Peace is not real

>>1273061 other than the last point, which I agree with, this is all limpwristed iOS faggot winging oh, the game that came out 2 weeks ago isn't as polished as the game that came out 14 years ago? Wow nigga you're blowing my mind, how could they do that

I like and enjoy the game, but it's apparent they did not have time to re-balance everything after throwing out the gacha, they only managed to scramble the letter system and left the balancing as it was a gacha. The game needs a lot of work in the upcoming months to actually bring down all the gacha remnants and turn the game into what it supposed to be. It just needs time.

>>1273935 >Asking for games to be released in a playable state is a luxury in 2025 Also stop being a pussy. Say it with the hard R you inbred nigger.

I'm struggling, man I hope the pre-60 grind is something they ease on for future players Weapon crafting especially, so much resource drain for shit I'm not even using

>>1282714 Well you've essentially speedran ~2 years of gacha-timegated progress in under a month (reaching AR60 in Genshin takes around that). The weapon crafting for things you won't even use is just part of the warframe grind they copied. It would have been way worse if they didn't remove the gacha parts they copied from Genshin, since you'd be stamina-gated every day so progress would be like 10x slower.

>>1278953 I don't say it to be edgy or to try to fit in like you lil nigga, I do not care, this isn't reddit, nobody thinks you're tough for saying it you're also the only crying that the game "isn't playable" here, so idk fix your pc or something it's UE4 so a bunch of stuttering is to be expected, try lowering your memclocks especially if you fell for the AMD shill campaign and got one of their dogshit CPUs

>>1286661 timings* not clocks mb

what a slog, goodness Maze immediately jumping to the de facto coin farm isn't what I expected but I'll take it. Way better than Chase and Exca on repeat

I've been really liking this game, but FOMO fucked me over again. It's a good game but with the FOMO and all, I'm thinking of dropping this and other gachas.

>>1295898 >FOMO It barely has any, you only need to do your weeklies, dailies can be skipped and I'm personally still barely trial 57 and don't care about going to 60. You'd only care if you want Phantasio early, or you wait until he gets rotated to the normal shop

Oh, this is a fun gun The guns actually have some cool mechanics to them, they're fun to shoot and look at If only they did damage

>>1298319 I just tried this out on Lisbell with Daphne/MC supports and a single shot into a crowd is enough to instantly bring you to S combo, lmao.

>>1295898 What is there to even get FOMO from? You can stop playing the game for several months and still come back to get any character or weapon. Even if you barely started today and missed Psyche from the theater, her letters are getting moved to the weekly boss.

i liek the gaem

I like DoNAts

>>1258735 Is this the refugee camp

holy influx hello

>this shit keeps telling me its "new" Stop!

>>1298500 Try clicking it. It stopped pinging me, dunno if it was because i clicked or after a restart

now that im 60 i guess its time to uhhhhh grind up wedges yippee..

Oh, wait, we're getting maintenance tonight, aren't we? Maybe I'll play something else, then

henlo. this doesn't seem to work. don't see any buff icons until she uses her ult.

>>1298514 If i understood correctly, it should be starting now. It should be safe to wait i assume. Also, try the last difficulty of Maze now that you're 60. It's pretty cool

>>1298525 YEAH I did maze this morning and I got like 1.2 million coins? Ridiculous jump in value I hope I finally get my At Peace tomorrow's reset, I did a full 300 fish clear this weekend and it was soul sucking 2 hours

>>1298525 Maintenance scheduled to start in about 40 minutes. It's planned to take only 30 minute to complete.

>>1298507 Neither clicking nor restarting seemed to help, thanks anyway.

>>1298536 >in about 40 minutes I was lied to. Lol >>1298534 >At Peace It took me a long time, but i finally got it recently. Have faith. >>1298537 Ah hell. I tried. On checking again, it kept the notification on the item itself, but the shop doesn't have it anymore.

can anyone stop her?

>>1298524 What are you trying to test?

FUG

nyoo... maintenance when i was close to finish my commission... >>1298627 fina weapon effect.

>>1298646 "Additional Damage" refers to added damage from sources like Prime Huntdown and Fina, right?

>>1298641 how long is that

>>1298651 1 hour

>>1298536 >30 minutes >>1298653 >1 hour who do I believe?

>>1298649 seems like it. i equipped all the trammels i could and got 54% trigger prob. so i know it was triggering that kind of extra dmg at least.

>>1298659 daphne's ult gives extra anemo dmg, i wonder if MC-bot and Daphne bot could make it proc >>1298658 For UTC+8 it is 9:55 right now, so 50 minutes until 10:45

>>1298658 believe math. they said from utc-8 9:15 to 10:45 which is 30 minutes.

>>1298664 >anemo dmg there is your problem. read feather again.

>>1298670 Seems like it should work, seeing as MC is a Lumino character and Daphne makes her teammates deal additional damage with her ult.

>>1298658 Idk where all these other responders are getting their times from. I'm going off the time gave on the official posts for Twitter and Reddit. >>1298664 Daphne-bot should be able to make proc on a Lumino character that normally doesn't have their own additional damage source. The gun would still have to be equipped on a Lumino character though.

>>1298688 source is the popup on the game client, see >>1298641

>>1298682 hmm... maybe. considering fina also deals other element dmg. but i don't have brickphne built and don't really intend to.

>>1298695 Ah I logged out before the maintenance started. Didn't notice they put a different time in the message.

>>1298641 nyoo... it's true...

>>1298664 1 hour chad was right!

>>1298763 I wish i wasnt

it's up!

Has anyone tried purchasing stuff with a Japanese VPN? I tried with tunnel bear but couldn't even connect to the server. It sounds like they cracked down on this, but I've only tried the one VPN service. I wonder if the other games have too.

>>1299432 Try Mudfish VPN, worked for me when I bought mc's santa outfit.

>>1299506 And was it actually cheaper?

>>1299660 I think so? Here's price of the gems, do your own currency conversion. On another note, weirdly I usually can't login unless I turn on the VPN first so it usually shows up as JPY.

Lisbell rentryGOD, a few weeks ago, I got told in the "other" thread that Tabethes skill damage does not apply to her consonance damage, despite what any sane person would interpret from her description, so I never built her for my cunny team. Did you tried this? It is working after all? Sorry, my IQ is 1d100 = 20 , cant think for myself.

>>1300913 I did some quick tests and you're right, her "Skill DMG Boost" does not apply to Samael. RIP cunny team synergy. Thanks for bringing that to my attention; I went ahead and updated the guide to reflect this: https://unknown.spam/fwoioeid

>>1301296 I didn't expect the link to get partially obfuscated, so let's try this: rentry(dot)co/fwoioeid

>>1301296 >>1301307 Sad... WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? ... My cute and funny team... Thanks for the update Anon!

I got all of Fina's secret letters from the theater, got her weapon in 8 letters, and did my weekly Maze runs. I did everything for the week. I'm not building Fina since I hate footfags and footfag pandering unless they give a skin with shoes

Is there no way to get rid of extra Thoughts? I've got 8 Lynns too many

>>1302505 save them for the i10 update

>>1302505 Doesn't look like it.

>>1302505 I'm saving all the extra stuff I got in anticipation for some recycling or trading system I think they're going to find out that nobody is paying $10 for a chick plushie that sits on your head and probably put that stuff in a store like that

>>1302569 I might drop some money on the phox tails but $10 for one of them is a bit rough I already bought the battle pass last month so I think I'll wait to see 1.1/1.2 moving the game positively before I put more money down

>>1302384 kek >>1302585 >I'll wait to see 1.1/1.2 moving the game positively before I put more money down Oh, its not just me then. I hope they realized how much hangs on 1.1 being decent...

Not only 1.1, imo. They gotta give us better value and more interesting cosmetics. Also, farmable cosmetics would be nice. If they improved the coloring system, that would increase their cosmetics' value as well. At the moment there's just not enough colors and half of them look hideous with the materials

>>1302727 I really do feel pretty positively overall but the big thing for me is probably weapons and mission monotony They have some really cool fucking guns but they only see use if they can cheese a character proc like Lisbell or Nifle Melees not named Samael aren't very fun at all to me and Piercing Ascent is near mandatory >>1302779 Yes, cosmetics are big too Their monetization is pretty atrocious I don't get why I can't color the base skin

>>1302788 >I don't get why I can't color the base skin This annoys me so fucking much you have no idea. >Melees not named Samael aren't very fun I kinda like the animation changing wedges, honestly. I just wish we could mix and match. It would be nice to have a stance slot or similar too, but since they double the attack's damage i guess it's fine. But you're right that the main problem is that there are nearly mandatory things for melee. No point having fun animation changes if i dont get to fucking use them, besides PA.

>>1302779 there are some farmable cosmetics, mostly accessories , you can get the BPs in the dice shop

>>1302837 I have them but most of them suck really bad. Also no coloring

>>1302788 imo piercing ascent should be taken out of the game or nerfed to the ground, it's a schizophrenic and unfun way to move and it's too strong Pig Riding and the daggers slide attack wedge are slightly faster and a lot more consistent since they're easier to control, but being able to basically fly is just stupid. Gliding by shooting-reloading and it keeps whatever speed you're going at when you shoot is totally busted and feels cheap as well. also for melees, style wedges are mandatory to do ANY damage, the only weapon that does comparable damage to Samael that I've seen is Momiji Itteki, it also has the benefit of being able to be paired with the Sanctifying pistol, the one with the melee damage bonus you are locked to Lisbell+Fina to play that combo though and it doesn't really work in multiplayer unless someone plays Fina Weapons in general need some help. I understand that technically consonance weapons would outclass them early on since they come at max smelts, but I haven't seen any guns do good damage so far There's space for them to get better as golden crit wedges come out, etc.

>>1302779 It would be cool to have a super rare cosmetic drop from mobs.

>get 2 jello in a row Time to switch mission type

Why is this thread more alive (barely) than the one on /v/ when this isn't even a gacha game?

>>1306158 /v/ doesn't play videogames

>>1306158 idk why the thread ended up on this board. The game does have a cosmetic gacha element, but it’s not really a “gacha game” in the way people usually mean. I guess it's fine being here, tho people might have trouble finding it.

>>1306158 other one has barely anyone post, just found out about this one from the post in that threat about this one. >>1253908 I'm currently grinding up Rhythm in the weekly boss rotation (because she is cute and no other reason, really), but I know Embla Inflorescence is paired with Nifle. Worth it to grind specifically that weapon, or the sawblade, or just do whatever? (In which case I am grinding Rhythm.)

>>1306317 sawblade is good with i6 lynn and i2 lisbell, if you arent actively playing those then i wouldnt call it a priority.

>>1302849 >Weapons in general need some help. fwiw since it not gacha anymore they can nerf/buff to their hearts content - if you do it with something people whaled for they tend to get very angry. >>1302827 >This annoys me so fucking much you have no idea. game's rough around the edges in general, I can understand why they revamped it because as a gacha it would've fucking imploded getting compared to genshin's polish (even when it launched). but like nerfs they now have more leeway and a relaxed schedule not competing with it anymore. making the base skin colorable would mean more paint sales (unless they change that system too, would like something like TFD where it's basically an unlock for that character/weapon), only a matter of time someone of the devs figures it out (or reads about it)

>>1306574 >since it not gacha anymore they can nerf/buff to their hearts content Hopefully the devs dont chicken out on this, because lets be honest, people would still get mad if they nerf a character with past event-limited banners. I would honestly too. If Lady Nipple would get an event-limited skin right now, people would 100% buy it, because she is extremely "meta", or at least at a higher rate than Psyches skin. To nerf her later would rustle some jimmies for sure.

>>1306608 Buffs and nerfs to characters youve invested in are just part and parcel for typical live services games, though. MMOs and games like League of Legends let you spend a ton of money and they'll straight up rework a class or character into oblivion. It would cause an uproar in a gacha game but its just business as usual in other games.

>>1306674 Yes, but the skins here, especially the event-limited skins I mentioned are gacha. You can buy a ~$20 skin in league, sure (feel free to correct the AI on this), but the gacha to get a skin here costs around $250. Yes the expected value to get a "gold-tier" drop is 70 rolls, not the hard pity of 90, but one would be insane to calculate his rolls with that in mind. (Calculating with the double reward for first time purchase of plumule is a bit unfair in this comparison, but then we are still talking about ~120$) So you are essentially comparing a $20 skin to a $250 one, of course people would be absolutely mad if they nerf someone with this kind of skin. Im also aware that there are pricier skins in league than "legendary". Im sure when a character like that got nerfed into oblivion (In league they just nerf it to 50% win rate tho, no?) people got upset (If that ever happened).

T-Thanks Fina

>>1306158 To be fair, when i came looking for this thread i checked on /v/ first >>1306185 >people might have trouble finding it Yeah i did lol

>>1306864 League has a skin gacha, its like $120 average there, and yeah theyve had more expensive skins ($500). Characters with those skins still get balanced and sure, some people are upset about it, but nothing like the backlash you see in gacha game communities. Just some reddit posts that everyone ignores. There are also instances where a character gets reworked (replaced). Take Swain for example: His current abilities and appearance are nothing like they were originally, and there was no refund or anything for users who bought that character and their skins. No mass outcry or anything, just another patch. Meanwhile, I still remember the collective chinese melty over release zhongli in genshin, and that was just because they didnt consider the character strong enough to be considered the "God of China". Gacha communities are extremely sensitive because these games are designed to manipulate both financially and emotionally. This game still carries echoes of those design choices, and with a playerbase that overlaps, I can definitely see people reacting more strongly than they would to a typical League balance change, but nothing on the level of genshin.

>>1306947 I think League is a bad example for comparison tho, because at the end, everyone expects that a character should have a 50% win ratio, so buffs and nerfs are unavoidable (the sole exception of this are the reworks you mentioned). So nerfing someone would only put them back to the group of "average", the place everyone should stand naturally, so even if you invested in a certain character, you know that the nerf was just. (Or they over-nerf, kek.) But this game is PvE, nerfs have no competitive reason whatsoever, they are only getting implemented to not obliterate every content in the game. With this in mind, going back to my Nifle example, a nerf on her i6, like bumping the trigger from 1 second to something like 5 would be reasonable. But this reasonable nerf would mostly strip away the fun play-style everyone rolled her for, running around with bows and guns and exploding stuff in the distance. If she would be the one with an event-limited gacha skin, people would obviously roll on it, because its a character most people use now, again, because she is broken and fun. Implementing this "mild" nerf on her would get people angry for sure IMO. Honestly its pointless talking about what ifs right now, but I think just because getting the characters is not gacha here, does not make the game inmune to the angry chinese mob treatment. I hope they will balance stuff around tho, just not in a way that completely breaks characters. I hope they wont nerf the polearm piercing fly tech tho...

>>1306864 I'm confused, why would it be insane to use 70 rolls as the cost? Unless we know that the bonus rolls is only a one-time thing for Psyche's banner, buying 70 rolls is effectively reaching the hard pity. Those bonus rolls expire before the next banner so there is no reason not to use them to reach the 90th roll. Realistically, people don't even have to pay for 70 rolls for it. Each month we've gotten 10 from the login event and 5 can be claimed from prism shop. It'll take more time to see if this will always refresh but it could possibly be the F2P monthly income for rolls. The $200+ figure is an overestimate of the actual price, people only get that by doing the basic calculation of price for 90 rolls. Anyone that actually went for the Psyche skin got it for less than that.

>>1307064 Yeah maybe League isn't ideal since it is PvP focused. Let's compare it to Warframe, since that game's model is extremely similar and their PvP is an afterthought. Warframe's devs have repeatedly nerfed plenty of player tools (Mesa, Ember, Tonkor, Saryn, etc.) that have had plenty of expensive cosmetics and bundles ($100+) with hardly any backlash. No community meltdown, no outrage culture, no refund demands, no "developers betrayed us", none of the emotional trauma you see in gacha communities. Players just adapt to the new meta and move on. You suggested that PvE nerfs feel worse because they lack competitive justification, but that’s not really how live-service balancing actually works. PvE games nerf constantly to control power creep, fix unintended interactions, or reflect evolving design philosophy. Path of Exile, for example, sees plenty of nerfs despite being purely PVE. While some short-sighted players might bitch, most people appreciate that the game has attentive developers and a healthy ecosystem. If this game does experience a violent, negative reaction to balance changes, it won’t be because it’s PvE. It would be because parts of the playerbase are carrying over cultural baggage from traditional gacha games, where nerfs feel like a threat to financial and emotional investment. This game has moved away from that model, and I think the community will eventually adjust too.

>>1307414 >why would it be insane to use 70 rolls as the cost? You are going in on a banner with no pity rollover, expecting that you will not be unlucky and just simply hit at EX value is the said insanity. My EX(rolls to get gold) = ~70 was generous too as it comes from the "overall drop rate" of 1.42%, not the fixed 0.3%. I dont know where some hidden pity engages, If I count only the 0.3% and the guarantee at the end with a capped geom distribution, I get an expected value of ~79 rolls to compare it to the ingame 1.42%..., so there must be some extra pity, I assume at the "end" of the 90 rolls. As I dont know where that lies (am I blind?) it could be an increased rate on the 89th roll for all I know. The expected value without any cap and hidden pity is ~333 btw, kek. Good luck getting lucky without hidden autism. Anyway, if you go in thinking "Anyone that actually went for the Psyche skin got it for less than that." you are in for a world of hurt one day. >bonus rolls Didnt even knew there was stuff like this, neat I guess, with this, to get 90 rolls is around {20 free roll from rolling to 80 + $52.5 for 29 rolls from the recommended shop that gives limited time rolls with better rates + from phoxene plumule for the leftover 41 rolls, 6560 needed, ~$100 without double - } = ~$153 for 90 rolls on the banner. (~$113 if you count the first time double for the currency, but cmon now...) Free ~10 roll gibs will make it cheaper, surprisingly not THAT cheaper if you are not going for the biggest pack, getting more plums that you need in the process. >>1307443 >but that’s not really how live-service balancing actually works. PvE games nerf constantly to control power creep, fix unintended interactions, or reflect evolving design philosophy. Touché, I may focused a bit too much on PvP vs PvE to make a point on the source of asshurt on nerfs. (Btw Path of Exile is also a bad example, as you cant buy skin for nerfed stuff, mostly character skin and hideout where money goes. The skill skins that directly affected by nerfs are negligible. I may have not played Warframe, but thats a good example I cant argue with.) >If this game does experience a violent, negative reaction to balance changes, it won’t be because it’s PvE. It would be because parts of the playerbase are carrying over cultural baggage from traditional gacha games Yeah, that might be it, we will see.

>>1307565 >Anyone that actually went for the Psyche skin got it for less than that. To add to this, I suppose it is mostly because we got a shit ton of free rolls for now, I mean I dont even know where I got picrel from, combining this with the extra rolls, and we are basically there for free if one is lucky.

>>1307578 >if one is lucky I wouldn't count on it. Always prepare to need pity. So in this skin's case, 70 rolls minimum to not get fucked. Got it in less? Great, you get to save some.

>>1307650 Yeah, see >>1307565 This was just to address Anons delusion about easy banner gets.

>>1307665 To be fair most gachas are designed to trick people into thinking it's easier than it actually is and making them roll. But yeah, i'm agreeing. I mean 70 rolls is the minimum with the bonus roll thingies, but even then you definitely want to guarantee you hit pity at the very minimum. People who don't will get cucked, if not now eventually.

>>1307565 > expecting that you will not be unlucky and just simply hit at EX value is the said insanity. I don't see why expected value is even needed for this. You are guaranteed gold-tier within 90 rolls. You get 70 rolls, get 15 free rolls in the process, use those rolls and claim another 5 from the 80th roll to roll a total of 90 times. There is no need to buy any more than 70 rolls if someone only wants the skin. I am not assuming any luck here. This does not change even if the base/overall drop rate was 0.0001%. It would be more insane to say the real price for the skin is $250 because people are supposed to buy 90 rolls for it. > surprisingly not THAT cheaper if you are not going for the biggest pack, getting more plums that you need in the process. It doesn't matter if you don't go for the biggest pack, everything above the $5 one is about the same exchange rate. In fact, the $100 pack is the least efficient among the $15+ packs, at least in USD. 10 free rolls is still going to be worth around $25 in plumules. >>1307578 I am not factoring in the bonus rolls for launch gifts. So far they've given 10 for Psyche and Fina release login events. The prism store is stated to refresh every month for 5 more. Those are the only non-paid sources I'm considering since it appears that they are on a monthly refresh. >>1307665 When did I ever mention or imply easy banner gets? My original message is about the actual price of the gacha skin assuming someone gets it through the guarantee. You cannot get any unluckier than that.

>>1307565 >so there must be some extra pity, I assume at the "end" of the 90 rolls. As I dont know where that lies (am I blind?) it could be an increased rate on the 89th roll for all I know First chink anime game? DNA copied a lot from genshin including its gacha banner system. So, DNA predictably functions the same way. Hard pity at 90. Soft pity starting around ~75. This is my data after rolling until soft pity twice on Psyche's banner. >78 >79 And the standard skin banner >81 Completely in line with my genshin experience and other gachas that copied hoyo. I also never had to hit hard pity in those gachas. It's rather rare for that to happen. Assuming they keep the "spend 20 get 5 back" system, ~70 roll estimate is actually too high. It's closer to 60 >60 + (5+5+5) + 5 rolls from prism shop = ~80 And this doesn't even account for the free rolls from events like Message of the Nightingale and included rolls from paid battle pass. AND the fact that you can roll gold drop before soft pity. That said, focusing on the average number required to hit gold drop once on the limited banner is missing the forest for the trees. A lot of players would want the weapon skin as well, which may require hitting gold drop twice, unless you luckshit 50 prisms. That's why they give you back 10 rolls at 100, to incentivize players to keep rolling after getting the skin.

>>1307966 there's no such thing as "soft pity" it's a weighted chance system it starts off as 0.000~1 and then climbs as you pull, Hoyo did not invent this system the range that people call "soft pity" is just the threshold where it becomes most probable for most sessions to stop at, but you can technically win at 1 or lose until pity (which is exponentially harder than winning at 1 btw)

I've heard people talk about how to influencing enemy spawns, especially in missions like Hedge, to help complete the mission faster. How do I do this? I don't want to give any some random YouTuber a view trying to look it up. They'll take 20 minutes to explain something that takes two sentences.

>>1309007 first off set crowd density to max, this affects spawns in solo for whatever reason as far as I know, what people mean by that is sitting in a spot where enemies spawn close enough to you that they get instantly killed by something like Rebecca's Jellyfishes or Fina's field there's one spot like that in the mines, close to the elevator, which is very popular in lv30 Exploration to farm clues, and you can finaggle your way into a position that has enough spawns close to you to get it pretty fast I'm sure eventually someone will catalog all the magic spots

>>1307966 >First chink anime game? No, but the first one where these numbers are not yet community farmed. I also want to note that the overall drop rate differs here from genshin (1.42% vs 1.60%). The flat rate for a gold drop is "half" here too compared to genshin (0.3% vs 0.6%). The pity IS different, and we dont know how. Picrel is form genshin, sauce: https://www.hoyolab.com/article/497840 >That said, focusing on the average number required to hit gold drop once on the limited banner is missing the forest for the trees. A lot of players would want the weapon skin as well Agreed, as calculated above, we were talking about the money needed to secure the banner skin only (including the free rolls), if you want the weapon too, it obviously gets pricier. I was throwing around the expected values to show Anon that this type of system is extremely jewish, and every inch of it is meant to manipulate you. Building extra layers of attachment to a given character if someone has the event-limited skin. I've played genshing for ~2 years, since then I was only frequent to Arknights, and I forgot how jewish things can get... >>1309007 Only my surface level observations, but mobs have a set of spawn points, these points have a range from you where they are active, so you can sit at certain spots where you have vision to all the active spawns, speding up the killing process.

i6 nifle really trivializes a lot of content doesn't she

>>1309165 >genshing for ~2 years, since then I was only frequent to Arknights Kek you are literally me >this type of system is extremely jewish, and every inch of it is meant to manipulate you Yep, they made the weapon skin cost 18 fucking prisms. These chinkjews couldn't just price them at 12 prisms so you could afford two weapon skins if you get 25 prisms. If you roll until gold drop twice and don't get the lucky 50 prism drop, you potentially have to roll until gold twice again in the next banner. The real FOMO isn't the limited skin but the limited skin + weapon skin combo. Diabolical.

>>1309136 >first off set crowd density to max, this affects spawns in solo for whatever reason I hear this doesn't actually work, did you test it?

Lisbell feels like the only character I'm actually playing the game on Especially after you get Guixu, weapon swapping to power up and then rocking off slams is such a good gameplay loop

>>1311963 Jeah she is peak, I will finally hit i6 on her next week. Hope we get a kino skin for her. I must consoom.

Lisbell would be better if she was a hag with big tits

I hope Hilda doesn't take too long to get to us, I really like her style I don't know what any of the Huaxu characters do

>>1309901 I don't see how that's more jewish than doing that but with actual content (characters+weapons)? you mentioned gayshit, that game has had a woman tax since Sumeru where if you don't roll for C1~2 your female 5* is half a character, then you have the weapon, and then on top of all that there's usually a 4* support who provides an immense DPS increase to her at C6- with ZERO way to guarantee it and people can get to C4 of the 5* without getting the 4* to C6 I agree that the entire shop is overpriced to a comical degree, but it is just skins and accessories at the end of the day I log in on Fina release day and get her to i2 in a couple hours for free and she's fully functional, you really can't beat that as far as chink/gook games go, with the exception of TFD which is still expensive but not nearly as much

>>1313457 That was not the point of the conversation you're just making up a strawman. It's the second dumb post too. Thank god for ids

>>1312067 The weapon swapping guy looks cool. Here's hoping they sort out the balance on consonance weapons and pseudo-consonance weapons by the time he rolls around.

>>1313491 what was the point then?

>>1313457 >I don't see how that's more jewish than doing that but with actual content (characters+weapons)? It's not more jewish than gacha games but at some point you have to stop using this excuse to let the devs get away with everything. This isn't a gacha game anymore and it isn't competing with gacha games but regular live-service games like Warframe and TFD. >I agree that the entire shop is overpriced to a comical degree, but it is just skins and accessories at the end of the day Putting aside the "it's just le cosmetics" excuse, it is, in fact, not just cosmetics that are obscenely overpriced but everything. $60 per character copy and $50 per weapon copy when you need 7 of each is completely disconnected from reality. Even just going from i2 to i6 would cost $240 for a single character. Nobody other than people who would literally spend $1000/m would spend that kinda money and those people are an extreme minority while no one is going to spend $60 on a character when all that amounts to is getting i6 a week early while it still takes a month.

>>1314572 yeah I cannot imagine any reasonable person would think those prices are anywhere in the realm of being worth it. the only "affordable" money traps in the game are drop rate books, and those are pretty egregious as well in terms of characters and weapons, the weeklies do suck, and the introns are considerable power boosts (depending on the character, some are just unsalvageable) but you're most definitely not barred from any content whatsoever right now just because your Rhythm is i0, as there are plenty of easily obtainable options that let you breeze through the content, the point being that there is zero urgency or FOMO or anything that would push someone into making that purchase as I said the prices themselves are insane across the board, but they are so insane that I think the only reasonable explanation is that they don't know which price ranges would actually work and they set the bar really low so that any adjustments will be met positively in short, they're testing the waters, I cannot imagine they're going to keep those Fina accessories at $10~15 a pop forever I can see why some would think that's giving some random chink devs too much credit, but they did get rid of the gacha and restructured their entire game in a pretty short time, so I'll give them some leeway and time- case in point, the survey asked a lot of questions about monetization, including "would you prefer gacha or 1 purchase for skins?" if in a year from now I'm still looking at $100~300 of gacha for a skin, I won't be sticking around, and in the meanwhile I don't feel pressed to spend any money (that'll change with picrel, if the CCP doesn't rape her)

wedge grind for lumino is brutal, god damn I hope 1.1 powercreeps a better farm for lights

>barrel finally drops after 16 runs >new schematic drop AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>1320531 Thats a kick in the teeth. I had a blueprint take 17 letters but at least i had everything else by then.

Dev stream on the 12th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea33bV3L-LI I hope it won't be just about the new chinkland and they will address the horrible balancing and say they're planning or making weapons usable

>>1363960 I'm worried that the game might not survive months of chinawank. Hopefully the chinks prove me wrong by loving it and flocking to the game.

>>1365072 Chinawank has a bad reputation because no one else did it good. DNA devs proved they can do kino writing and stories, if there's one dev that can make chinawank and add a good story to it, its them

>>1363960 yes I hope we get more fun missions and characters The amount of content that wants you to AFK through it is too high

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh27eQkkVv0 TGA trailer looks like we're releasing to steam on the 23rd too