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/zzz/ - Zenless Zone Zero General Anonymous Id: afe03c No. 1499523
Previous: >>1497196 >News Agent Record | Aria https://www.hoyolab.com/article/43039871 Agent Record | Sunna https://www.hoyolab.com/article/43037944 Version 2.5 Special Program https://youtu.be/Ldeqt2WMiYM TGA 2025 Special Video https://youtu.be/X-g1N9mNjzs >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo https://youtu.be/35fRoOYhE6Y (EN) https://youtu.be/BSKG5nhlj5s (JP) https://youtu.be/D_MtaEZRy3E (EN) https://youtu.be/eJBlfglfs-4 (JP) https://youtu.be/9Lshum4Peqw (EN) https://youtu.be/oCcNiUZ5ogU (JP) https://youtu.be/TU5Bt8MLPjk (EN) https://youtu.be/bviZmH3w5ew (JP) >Upcoming Events for 2.5 https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/161728 All-New Program 12/29 - 02/05 Special Visitor 12/29 - 02/09 Potential Hypothesis New Chapter Reforged 12/29 - 02/09 Sword Seeker Chronicles 12/31 - 02/05 Joint Investigation: The Divine Maze 01/03 - 01/22 Shadow Riptide Clash 01/09 - 01/26 Wish Filing Station 01/14 - 02/02 Advanced Bounty: Area Patrol 01/16 - 01/21 "En-Nah" Into Your Lap 01/21 - 02/05 Angels and Delusions of Muse 01/21 - 02/05 Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 01/30 - 02/04 Angels of Delusion Training in Progress 01/30 - 02/09 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online) https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption ZENLESSGIFT ZZZCREATOR25 ZZZ25MINA ZHAOISFREE MEETTHEVOIDHUNTER ShunguangWinterGift ZZZ2026 >Resources and useful links
[Expand Post]https://rentry.org/zzzlinks https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Guilds https://rentry.org/8zzzfriends >/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
Sometimes, I wanna fuck Chinatsu [11] and spend all night cuddling with her. Other times, I wanna do so with Rokudo [11]. Then, there are some days of the week where all I desire to do, is to plap Yutanes [11] FAT robotic ass. Thats the beauty of male sexual nature; polygamy. I love all my girls, and I love each one for different reasons.
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Join the /zzz/ Guilds! https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Guilds >send join requests via guild ids >reply to this post with your guild id and guild name to get added to the list Add your /zzz/ Friends! https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends >send friend requests via UID >reply to this post with your UID to get added to the list Add "/zzz/" to your account info, so we'd know you're one of us! Or you might just get the boot !! Member limit is 50, up to 100 at guild lvl 20. how guild exp works: >all outpost points earned by a proxy are added to every site they belong to >each proxy can earn up to 300 guild exp a week (resets every monday) >150 out of 300 from just doing dailies >for the last 150, either publish 10 commissions and run 5 OR publish 5 commissions and run 10 >info on 8th Street NA is ran by the board owner. EU is ran by a mod. ASIA is ran by an anon. it's invite only, so you have to post your UID to make it on the 8 list: https://rentry.org/8zzzfriends
Sleep time.
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Who's your favourite band.
I wish Lucy was real... but I'd rather sex my ID though!
>>1499530 my id cuddling you in bed as i go to sleep too
Fufu is a dumdum!
Going to 404 to watch the Idols with my ID.
Hag ID or I will die slowly
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If idol id, I M6.
hag ID or I will die instantly
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Then perish.
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>>1499531 I wonder which of these are going to become a real faction apart from the angels? have an edit I made with Fairy and my own art program.
SUNNA SEX
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this is the longest month of my LIFE
hag id segs
If you could only fuck one ZZZ who would it be? For me the answer is obvious
>>1499527 ZhuYuanSimps is full again, next time we get a capacity increase I'll make sure I mention it here before I start adding more people. Also I love my Chinese cop wife and her fat fucking ass. >>1499531 Darkforge probably makes some sick metal tracks.
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>>1499547 Dammit wrong fucking file lmao I just woke up.
>>1499553 Zhu is wife so she's my answer.
Shugite's slow ass banner is killing the game also putting my fingers in my ID's ass
>>1499558 That's how she got so good at pickpocketing when she lived on the streets.
>>1499549 Are you aware that her name is Chinatsu?
I yearn for the ///G O N G\\\
>>1499561 Fufu concept art released today too.
It's Sunna.
>>1499553 I will definitely fuck Roland and his fucking SHIT discs over and over again!!!
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Saucy Anby Fic-Fact #60: The usual color of electricity she can generate out of her arms is a whitish blue, but if she fights in a Miasma-dense area for long enough, the electricity turns red with a black core.
Sunna (Formerly Chinatsu)
>>1499568 *Chinatsu
>>1499574 Her name is Chinatsu.
>>1499527 I'm sure 8th Street will still be full forever but can I get added to the list? UID: 1005003649
Sucking my id’s cock and swallowing
>>1499547 Padme and the other singer girl are yet to release and the one that fits them the most is darkforge The aliens though no idea
Imagine hear about someone stopping a Chernobyl+9/11 level event in your area and then you turn on the evening news one day to see a half naked Chinese girl receiving your country's highest honor
>>1499552 wow my ID is actually a hag!
>>1499567 what issue of famitsu? also any other concept art in it?
>>1499553 i can't pick just one depends on how i'm feeling on the day
Should i get raped by my id
>>1499601 thanks maybe theres some cool shifu or shungos concept
Has there been any info yet what stats to look for Aria on the disc set we got? Basic anomaly stuff AP and ATK%? My disc luck is shit so I wanna get to prefarming as early as possible.
>>1499613 Anomaly Mastery > Anomaly Proficiency > ATK
>>1499613 I've just been holding everything.
>>1499615 AM? Really? I remember at some point AM was considered kinda shit and ATK would be preferable on Disc 6 but I guess times have changed. I haven't played anomaly a lot lately and when I do I use Burnice who uses ER or Miyabi who is just attacker pretending to be anomaly.
>>1499611 Yeah, while Astra is watching
>>1499553 Lucy.
When’s the last time you cried
is this too much Crit Damage
>>1499623 Not really
my husbands are talking!
>>1499618 She gets bonus AP for every point of Anomaly Mastery above 180, and she wants her enemies to be effected by an anomaly effect as much as possible
Every additional search I put into this feels like a massive fucking waste like "holy fuck just give it to me already" but I'm too sunk cost fallacy'd to not keep going with my daily 1-pull
>>1499622 I tried to cook for the first time ever a few weeks ago, scorched a stainless steel pan, and cried upon realizing I really am an incompetent fuck-up who can't do anything. Does that count, or did you mean related to Zenless Zone Zero?
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>>1499633 I left out the fucking image just casually bricking my account pulling this when I have brimstone don't even worry about it no but seriously just give me the damn ball... (no guarantee btw)
>>1499634 No that’s good I cried watching lost pets get reunited with their owners on youtube while i was stoned i think it was very therapeutic
>>1499622 Was thinking about killing myself again last month and broke down.
>>1499622 saw a tiktok of an old man singing at his grandson's wedding, and his wife snapped out of dementia and recognized his voice, then she walked by herself to the middle of the ballroom just to meet him AND THEN i saw a comment that said "she heard her man and suddenly they're in their 20s in their kitchen singing and dancing once more"
Pan Yinhu original drafts
>>1499640 >AND THEN i saw a comment that said "she heard her man and suddenly they're in their 20s in their kitchen singing and dancing once more"
Last time on 8th Street...
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>>1499631 her ball is going to have AM in it isn't it
Traveling mimo exchange refreshed, polys still in stock
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>>1499649 Why do paizuri vids have moaning sometimes does it actually feel good for the girl
>>1499649 anna anon face
>>1499651 Fatass sex with this cyber-11 btw
>>1499653 Yes. Obviously not as good as it does for the guy though.
>>1499645 These have gotten worse and started to hallucinate
Fuck bwos on the first journey to work this year I got a speeding ticket which will probably cost me 70-100 Euro soon. Fuck this gay world we're living in. At times like these I just think to myself, that could have been 80.5 rolls instead. At the same time, these things make me more likely to spend on ZZZ because I think, well I already lost money on something that I don't enjoy, if that happens why shouldn't I just lose money on something I do enjoy?
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tongue kissing my ID
>>1499527 >wake up >check if level 10 yet >still 9 It's gonna hit 10 while I'm at work today, I can feel it
>>1499527 Probably gonna fill up instantly but UID: 1000314989
>>1499661 Yeah gotta watch out these days since roads might be slippery and those fuckers are ITCHING to drain you of any money you might have left
robutts
>tfw you were one of the first 5 members of the Eight Street Guild in EU
>>1499658 We sincerely apologize for the decline in quality, particularly the instances of factual errors and "hallucinatory" content. We are addressing these issues by increasing our fresh water consumption and rare earth mining rate.
>>1499645 My favorite one of these was when they were talking in ghetto speech.
>>1499650 sasuga hoyo wonder how good Vivian's ball is going to be on her, but chances are I'm going to roll for it anyway since I love robocunny
>>1499655 but I like Anna Anon
>>1499679 Put her in a naked dogeza and cover her in white slime now and you will be excused
>>1499645 the best one was the one they treated us like kids, and u see em saying "aawww, they wanna FUCK their id, so cute"
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>>1499661 I know that feel. Recently got my first car fine ever for overspeeding 1 km, and yeah I also thought it would have been better spent on the game. It seems like an addiction to think that way, so I stick to the yearly budget I set for the game which is monthly+occasional bp and double top ups. It's a slippery slope to spending hundreds per patch, because you'll feel entitled to get every agent and engine.
>>1499681 >wonder how good Vivian's ball is going to be on her Easily her 2nd best option, Vivian's ball isn't very restrictive beyond being an Ether Anomaly ball there's no cope option that gives Anomaly Mastery anyway i think
>>1499691 Yeah its def the best second option, I have an extra Flight sittin around because I got lucky but Iam probably still going to grab Arias ball. is Sunnas (Chinastsu) ball in yet?
>>1499700 >is Sunnas (Chinastsu) ball in yet?
Chinatsu's ball will be Kaboom the Cannon
chinatsu ball doesnt seem like a big deal but yutane ball seems like a pull
Going balls deep in Chinatsu
>>1499703 >>1499713 Thats what its lookin like, Dreamlit Hearth will actually be the best Overall Ball for her since she activates more veil.
>>1499650 So she gains more damage from an ether anomaly does this mean shes better in a non disorder team or using bibi monoether
my id giving me a freaking blowjob!
>>1499713 Yeah Chinatsu doesn't have any big stat goal for her builds, she just wants 3000 ATK and a lot of Energy Regen. So like >>1499711 said, Kaboom is a great cope option (she has summon too, so she can make full use of the ball's effect) then just give her ER discs
great!
>>1499719 not even her sig being her bis would suck greatly, i guess ill just wait until 2.6 before planning what ball to give em i guess >>1499724 lucky nigger
>>1499684 I may have altered officer zhu yuan's image in a lot of ways but I would never do that
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How old is ysg supposed to be? With the flashback scene of the proxy and her as kids, they looked about the same age but that doesn't make sense. She joined yunkui after the fall of eridu and was suspected of being 6-8 years old. Meanwhile, the proxies are supposed to be way older, teenagers when that happened. Also, we were still wearing the school outfit which seemed odd. Is time travel an actual thing here or are the devs just being fucking idiots?
>>1499732 The whole "met as children" thing is fucking stupid so I'm going with the devs just being fucking idiots on top of it
>>1499732 Devs are HUGE RETARDS, but there is some decent cope that we still are uncs timeline-wise and the devs just didn't get adolescent models of Belle and Wise ready in time
I'm not 100% sure those aren't activated yet, but they probably aren't. RXMBD-NNDID-APHZZ - Daemon X Machina on Steam Must be redeemed by July 1st, 2026 by 10:00 AM Pacific Time. YXYT3-3FHHP-VYBRY - Atomic Heart on Steam Must be redeemed by November 4th, 2026 by 10:00 AM Pacific Time.
>>1499720 Yeah Aria doesn't really care about disorders, she's even the first non 1.0 Anomaly agent that doesn't get her AA activated by another Anomaly agent. In regards to Bibian for Mono-Ether: apparently in the beta, Aria/Sunna/Yuzuha outperforms Aria/Sunna/Vivian at the moment. So currently, Aria cares more about getting buffs funnelled into her more-so than having a sub-DPS helping her
>>1499740 This shit got sniped immediately
>>1499744 Her name is Chinatsu.
>>1499747 stop posting 11 year old children
This grok thing is funny.
This boss is one of most annoying things I've had to fight in tower. Felt harder than actual bosses to get medal on. Is ther other normal boss enemies that you guys have had trouble with? I think its that fast punch he does feels like it just one shots your agents.
>>1499622 watching "its a wonderful life"
>>1499749 do that with this
>>1499749 Grok can do voices now?
>>1499736 Ah yes, the 14 year old with huge tits falling in love with the proxy. Fucking classic china bullshit >>1499738 >>1499739 Yeah Im gonna assume the devs are being actual retards
>>1499744 Damn I cant believe it. They got another fatass to replace my fatass cop.
>>1499756 Seems so, first time using it. Using the app.
>>1499688 How many favors does Phaeton owe Astra now
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>>1499764 1 Astrallion
I think the proxy is a bad influence for Shushu.
>>1499650 I'm concerned this ball is a placeholder or at least will be changed significantly next beta, it gives very little stats compared to other limited balls and most of those stats are universally accessible to any Anomaly.
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>>1499772 dont fall for it bwo. she's going to make you pay for it then ask you to feed her and then she'll try to feed you but as she nears the fry to your mouth she'll pull it back, say sike, and then eat it for herself
>>1499776 Eh, It provides no Anomaly Proficiency, which is the stat that the vast majority of Anomaly agents care about the most
>>1499780 She's pure. I think that's the word that describes her the best. Though quite into handholding.
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>>1499785 La rata SEXO
>>1499782 Aria also cares about AP, she has an AM->AP conversion passive and does ablooms which sways the balance from ATK towards AP even further.
zhaoid FUCK DAWEI
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>>1499785 why is her face like that
I want to be AOD's manager so I can have nightly activities with them in exchange for success.
Fufu is very fat
>spend an entire day off trying to get higher scores with Zhao >can't because her M6 blows Bunner bros, how are we coping? Will they change her M6 or buff her enhanced basic? Or did I spend ~700 rolls on a namecard (still worth it)
>>1499622 I cry every time I watch Aria the Animation
But yutane is fatter
>>1499785 based, but whoever made this model should have made her at least a little fluffy
>>1499622 The only time I've cried in the past 10 years was when my SSD died when I was Rank 13 in WoW classic. I was grinding 16+ hours per day for almost 3 months and I was a NEET at the time so I could afford a new hard drive and thought I wasn't going to make it to Rank 14. I ended up making it though, just had to sell some of my gold to a friend and bought a new card with that.
>>1499809 >so I could afford a new hard drive couldn't*
>>1499805 You can assume every undertuned character will be buffed eventually. I think this goes for Banyue as well. But you must remember to answer the survey. Every bit of data helps. Probably.
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>>1499805 tbh I skipped pretty much everyone to get her M6 for free so she's still useful to me
>>1499818 The only characters I rolled in 2.X was Jufufu, Orphie, and SEED and I dumped all the rest into Zhao-coin.
>>1499824 Where is she going
>>1499831 To fight level 1 ethereals
Coop is more boring than I hoped sadly. IMO they should make it work so that each player can bring teams of 3. No I don't care if it melts somebody's phone
>>1499824 Who would win, horizontally spinning Shunguang or vertically spinning Shunguang?
this is how world peace is achieved
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this is how world peace is achieved
>>1499839 I love that we can only use one agent. If it was a team of three there would be no difference to the regular singleplayer combat. Coop is the place where you can on-field characters that you wouldn't on-field otherwise. I mainly played Lighter in the event and had so much fun. Give me the option to play Fufu and Zhao and it's perfect
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>>1499561 HOLY BAZZZED
I told my ID I rolled for Yebibi and they wished me to "get well soon"
>>1499622 few days ago when I had to cut plenty of onions and I forgot to put underwater goggles on
>>1499847 I want to play Seed, or rather a full Flora team.
>>1499635 I'm still hesitating to pull, I also have brimstone, but kaboom is on this banner which I have only 2 copies of since day 1 I could probably build pity, I fucking hate balls and their banners
>>1499635 keep rolling
>>1499674 wtf, me too!
>Just started playing >Working through the story at my own pace, trying to do it in a 'proper' order >Game keeps trying to get me to go to the recent content >Outright tries to bait me into skipping straight to the recent chapter with no regard for continuity I'm not fussed over missing out on those polychrome things if it means not spoiling myself on the plot, but which of these is 'safe' to do? Frankly I don't even know what half this shit is. There seems to be some assumed context I don't know of for some of these, like the 'potential hypothesis', that doesn't mean anything to me.
>>1499847 It's just not very interactive. Most of the fun, I realized comes from juggling your characters, in coop I'm just spamming alongside the other two.
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>>1499674 >>1499870 I was the 32th or so because it was like 4 am when they released
>>1499874 The potential thing is just character trials. The rest of the events all have some degree of spoilers, so you may want to do them later if you care enough. Chronologically speaking, they're after the latest main story.
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>>1499874 >'potential hypothesis its just a tutorial of new abilities for older agents, you can play it just to get it out of your view and loot some polys >The Divine Maze you can start it now, it won't spoil anything just characters you've probably haven't met yet >Game keeps trying to get me to go to the recent content it wasn't like that, only recently they started trying to speedrun new players into latest chapter, if you are not bothered by FOMO rewards, events with "Ridu chronicles" tag are permanent and you can play them later on they changed the whole experience so much I'm not even sure how new players experience feels like right now
>>1499874 If the red marks bug you they can be removed if you just click on the "go to event" button and then click off. As for when to do them: >Joint investigation Coop event, has interactions between characters that would be lost on you if you don't know the characters but you can just skip the dialogue and play the actual event, it's fun. >Swork seeker chronicles Has story spoilers but it's permanent but you get a good weapon for Rupture agents from the limited time rewards, if you can't catch up by the time the event ends I'd just try to skip through it to get the ball. >Phaethon's story The latest story, pretty self-explanatory, do it when caught up >Final callback Trials for banner characters >Potential The buff system for older characters, you can trial them here. I don't think there's any time pressure but these give rewards and obviously don't spoil anything >Hollow zero Weekly mode, there's a weekly point cap you want to hit by doing runs, no spoilers
>>1499874 Just assume that everything on the current events tab is spoiler.
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>>1499874 are on EU btw? we have slots in the guild, you should join
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No sis love?
>tfw PC just crashed because of a CPU error Might be a one off, but also might be a sign I should finally build the goddamn PC I had parts for for almost a year now.
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>>1499910 HEY WAIT A MINUTE
>>1499527 1500787699 wanna join 8th street EU
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you have to take responsibility
Master, you are so based. - Fairy
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>>1499527 I got an invite before but it expired yesterday. Am I going to be getting another one or what? NA 1000070984
>>1499874 Hey bby, IIRC you can go back to old content even if you skip forward. In any case have fun but be ready for a horrible slog if you want to do all content and actually follow the story from start to finish
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>>1499940 Unironically, more aura farming when
>>1499884 >>1499895 I see, in that case I'll shelve most of it for later then, assuming I can catch up before the event period ends. >>1499894 >I'm not even sure how new players experience feels like right now It's a tad messy since it just sort of dumps stuff onto you, it's staggered a little bit to not be too overwhelming but still. I knew to expect this though, being a gacha after all. I did hear they redid some stuff early in the game - something about a TV mode? >>1499909 No, I'm in Australia and chose Asia since that's typically the 'closest' for multi-region games. Not that proximity helped with how dogshit the internet here is. Also I have some friends that seem to want me in their guild, but they each of them seem to play for very different reasons so I don't know if I care to join whatever discussion they do have.
>>1499952 You can join multiple guilds, like up to 10 i think
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>>1499948 >be ready for a horrible slog Oh don't worry, I've come to accept that from Mihoyo games
>>1499952 >I did hear they redid some stuff early in the game - something about a TV mode? there are no OG TV mode after 1.2, in 1.3 they did tried to revive TV with arpeggio fault mode but it was even worse afaik they converted old story from 1.0 that was presented with TV mode into a soulless corridors we all here are still missing TVs....
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>>1499973 >we all here are still missing TVs.... No were not, 95% of it was 10 times worst and more shitty then what we have.
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>>1499973 TVs were so much fun when they were used for actual good puzzle mechanics. Its a bummer they got redacted.
anyone got a higher res version of ///G O N G\\\'s model view?
>>1499937 I did this to her also sex with my id
How can people say TV's were good with a straight face when like 99% of it was fucking terrible? Like I have 100% all of TV stuff and Lost Void and shit was terrible give of take 3 or 4 things. I feel this has to be rose tinted bullshit or something.
>>1499995 TV mode was superior for exploration, puzzles and creative game design (most commisions had a unique gimmick) The only things i disliked about TV mode was that we didn't see the agent's models outside of combat and I hated the >Loading Screen out of TV Mode >Combat against trash mobs >Kill them in 10 seconds >Loading Screen back into TV Mode
We missed the get >>1500000
>>1500006 Not only us. That thread doesn't even acknowledge it...
TV will be back in 3.0 and you WILL like it
>>1500002 >TV mode was superior for exploration, >A mode where you just move around on a square grid >the puzzles are simple as fuck >you don;t do combat the game is about 90% of the time >Never seeing your character >(most commisions had a unique gimmick) Also this is bullshit, if you actually did all of them lamo. You people live in some other world where this shit was actually good
>>1500019 But can you actually articulate your criticisms of TV mode other than just saying that it sucks massive dong three times?
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>He doesn't remember the best commission in the entire game was a TV commission Sad.
>>1500019 >the puzzles are simple as fuck you say that but we frequently got retardGODS back in halfchan asking for help on some of the puzzles back in the day. You almost never see anyone ask for help with puzzles post-TV, cause they're all just >put the cube in the square hole, and ball in the circular hole. >Press this button to skip this puzzle if it's too difficult for you
>>1500024 I literally just did there pointing out what was abad about it. >>1500026 No shit one was good. One or two good ones do not make up for 99% of bad ones. This why I can't take this seriously it's always you tards point to this one good one out of thousands of terrible ones. >>1500027 Yea, but they were still super fucking simple and might as well as not been puzzles outside of 1 or 2. This is my problem you tard cherry pick like 1 or 2 good things from thousands of bad things.
>TVs are bad because... THEY JUST ARE OK!?!? apart from brainwashing boomers TVs are pretty comfy especially to play NES games
>>1500002 the devs have been working on their loading tech and that's why we can now go to disk and bangboo shops from anywhere with no loading screens
I miss TV mode
>>1500026 They were so based for forcing you to get the true ending for the platinum trophy. Btw if you are a PC player and have a PS5, this is your reminder to go and collect your free platinum
>>1500037 I literally listed out why they were bad, but you want to live in your own world and ignore shit.
>>1500034 >This is my problem you tard cherry pick like 1 or 2 good things from thousands of bad things And it was still better and more engaging than what we have at the moment for non-combat content. Why don't you provide some examples of some post-TV improvements?
>>1500026 do people actually like this for the retarded TV mode gameplay or just for the fun ending it had?
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TV mode was better than the sorry excuses for puzzles we have nowadays >Hold B to change a random detail in the environment to create a path
Sorry but Hollow Zero is the only place where TV was decent, in regular commissions and story it was horrible filler
>>1500046 >moment for non-combat content. There's you're fucking problem, this game about fucking combat and TV's made you not do combat 90% of the time. It was terrible, why?
>>1500049 It was more for the story then anything
I don't have a strong opinion of TV mode either way.
its you
>>1500058 >this game about fucking combat and TV's made you not do combat 90% of the time funny how current corridors are literally the same but you don't seethe about that but don't worry TVs are on their way back, nothing can stop it
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>>1499622 Reading through blue archive’s v1c3 since it was required to read for v5c2 I shouldn't have put off reading it for so long, even with the insane drama surrounding its development, the themes it explores is incredibly well done and resonated with me enough that I couldn't stop the tears from flowing, having experienced unexplainable loss (through relationships) fucking sucks
Yeah okay but remember commissions from randomly talking to NPCs or checking Interknot? Remember Venus? Remember Kami North? What about Spiral Flutist subplot that had them both?
im glad tvs are gone
>>1500058 >this game about fucking combat and TV's made you not do combat 90% of the time I LOVE doing nothing but the same fights over and over again with the same pool of agents doing the exact same rotations. And i would HATE if we got something unique to do in-between the fights
remember a post-tv train puzzles with lycaon?
>>1500070 Remember how garbage some of the missions they gave you were and were just repeats of the same mission with a different paint with next to no combat 90% of the time? You people live is a rose tinted world
>>1500067 Also they won;t come back lamo. They were super shit on in the beta back when the game was in the beat to the point i'm surprised they went live with them and they would never go back.
>>1500083 >>1500084 This is a tv loving board pal
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>>1500055 >Using tv mode to line up train tracks so that Phaethon can hit Dead End Butcher with a whole ass train to save the Cunning Hares in chapter 1 in one of the best cutscenes in the game >Using tv mode to illustrate that the Ballet Towers might actually be actually haunted in Chapter 2, aka the Victoria Housekeeping chapter, the horror movie themed faction. Honestly, tvs were incredibly diagetic to the story and were great at actually blending what Phaethon sees with what's going on proper. Way better than what we have now, and I don't think that's a contest.
>>1500085 Sorry man, I'm not wearing my rose tinted glasses today to lie to you
>>1500069 I found the ending of it to be pretty touching and heartfelt as well, despite the obvious flaws riddling the chapter that have been discussed to death. A bit of a frustrating case of something with the potential to be really great under better circumstances, but that's the general consensus over in /bag/ anyway.
this is somehow better
>>1500090 this nigga is obsessed with rose tints
>>1500097 Cause that's what this is with you people and nothing more, you only remember how good things were when 95% of it was bad.
>>1500090 This is still tv loving board buddy
>>1499999 Nice get Fufu!!
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>99% >95% >90% blud making numbers up on the fly
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>>1500096 I think I remember this, you had to find a ridiculously easy password and the game typed the numbers for you in the console
>>1500087 I understand what the devs were going for, and those select few bits were sovlfvl, but that still did not make for engaging gameplay in this action game. And this is also not changed by the fact that they have been fumbling the replacement mechanics since then.
>>1500087 idk, would making the qingming realm or whatever a 2D abstraction really improve anything?
>>1500101 And how is it any better now? The only positive thing you've said about the current state is that you have less shit to do in-between combat. So 'Less Content = Better' to you In fact the death of TV mode is what led to the death of Commissions, now we only get like 3 "commissions" a patch whenever they add a new exploration area, and it's just 2 minutes of "go here, kill enemies, go here, kill enemies, here's your polys"
>>1500116 It was even worst back then buddy, where is the fucking gameplay in a action game?
>>1500116 >less shit to do in-between combat Yes.jpg
motivational quote of the day
>>1500117 Well it was clearly enough gameplay to keep you playing if you didn't drop the game back in the TV era
I think a lot of this comes from some gacha brain logic of "action combat games must only have combat". Even DMC games have sections dedicated entirely to puzzles.
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I'm eating the fattest steak I can for fufu's birthday
>>1500117 >where is the fucking gameplay in a action game? where indeed, its still mostly talk and no action
i think TV mode could come back in the form of the puzzles along the corridors
>>1500122 DMC1 would filter these zoomers so fucking hard
>>1500120 It's mostly due the combat being liked enough to me hoping they would fix that and look they did cause no one liked TV's. My only major problem with it is I miss talking to NPC's to give me new commissions, but I don;t miss TV's at fucking all.
>>1500123 eat some meatbuns
lack of prince of persia and lara croft games left a big scar on gaming as a whole
>>1500128 >>1500122 These are some dumb fucking posts, holy fuck. I played DM1 and people play action games for the action game part mostly. Why are you still here if you don;t like it anyhow? and don't want to play a action game?
in my opinion they should keep improving on those 2d side scroller segments or that one event that had isometric view
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>>1500019 >TV mode was superior for exploration, >A mode where you just move around on a square grid Those two are not mutually exclusive. There was more to exploration on that square greed than to the exploration for the rest of 1.X >the puzzles are simple as fuck They are simple as fuck right now as well, but back then you had more variety to those simple as fuck puzzles and they required less dev time because there was a robust and reusable framework to implement them in. Now every new puzzle has to be its own standalone thing, no matter how simple. >you don;t do combat the game is about 90% of the time You don't do combat the game is about 90% of time now when you're playing the story. TVs are for lore, story, exposition, etc. They are simply a superior tool for the purpose than a game mode that was fundamentally never designed for this purpose. You do combat when you're done with all of the above, exhaust the content, and go back to grinding the endgame. That was the case during 1.0, this is the case now. >Never seeing your character Not only did you see your character, you got to hear them, interact with them, had unique events with them, etc. All because making commissions for TVs is at least an order of magnitude cheaper than making commissions for the 3D-action mode, so the devs had headroom to put some feelsgood niceties in, e.g. Hollow Zero barks and events. Lost Void is an incredibly 1:1 comparable example of you getting less despite the devs having to work more. >Also this is bullshit, if you actually did all of them lamo. Very few TV commissions didn't have a unique twist to them. Those twists were often minor, sure, but almost all of them had something.
>Arguing with everyone and shitting up the thread >Spelling/grammar errors galore >It's all one ID You guys know you can just filter him right?
>>1500120 >>1500128 Next you'll say the DMC4 board game segment was good If it were up to all ZZZ events should be combat with gimmicks, management minigames because that's what the siblings do, or total freebies with a bit of character interaction. Just quit bangbooslop entirely.
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Good morning
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>>1500126 Honestly the one thing I can agree with, instead of easy "hacking" they could do like mini TV mode things and it would be cool.
>>1500139 >action game >action game >action game there are plenty of mods in zzz dedicated to 100% action gameplay why are you so mad about the idea of having to do anything but spamming mouse? >Why are you still here if you don;t like it anyhow? why are you? story quests are dialogues for the most part, where is your melty about not having combat and action inside story quests?
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Every time I see the "action games should only ever be action" I just think of this. Heaven forbid you engage with the game on any other level than button mashing.
tv mode was good because it let people work on things other than these huge hollows that no one cares about. when's the last time any of you even went into one just for the sake of running around and fighting things after you collected everything in them? people have talked about how failume heights could easily expanded on, but where's the time to do that when every patch has to bring at least 1 but usually more zones that are double or triple the size of any city zone? this patch had 4 of those places and most players will probably never see them again, they're not a good use of resources
>>1500129 And it's because TV mode is gone that we barely get any commissions now. TV mode let the devs create unique side missions and express their creativity without devoting a shit load of budget and time to it now all they can do is just make missions that's combat after combat, with dialogue every now and then and the exact same mini-puzzles that a 4 year old can do. They only save the creative stuff for events because that's the only way they can justify developing it with their overworked schedule
>>1500141 People who don't like TV mode are people who have ADHD, or mentally incapacitated. It's definitely because they can't skip the TV gameplay that they hate it. In "real exploration", you can mindlessly go to point A to point B (because everything is shown to you) to progress, and this leads to a better "experience" for them because they focus on combat.
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>>1500156 >>1500157 Why would you play a action game and not want action game stuff and say they should remove action game stuff for less action game stuff? Like it's very confusing to me. Like straight up why play a action game and get mad people want action game combat?
>>1500165 wrong small slim pic
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It's not a zero-sum game. You don't have to remove anything. Goodness, it's like talking to a child.
>TV vs no TV melty again
>>1500179 TV's were a fucking failure anon
we should stop the melty and masturbate to zzz girls
>>1500169 There are action games that have only action. That's at most like 1% of all action games. 99% have downtime because that's how 99.99% of people enjoy their action game. What is an action game to you? Name an example of a known game that you consider to be an "action game".
>>1500169 >dodged the question ok >Why would you play a action game and not want action game stuff schizophrenia, literally nobody said that and want that
>>1500165 >when's the last time any of you even went into one just for the sake of running around and fighting things after you collected everything in them? Corridors are just as shit as TVs. Devs have no clue what to do with non combat focused content, they turned the story chapters into a visual novels.
>>1500179 He might genuinely some turbo-autist that only sees things in absolutes.
Niggas be so mad over other niggas not liking shit
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Okay, yeah, probably an actual child.
I had a good melty post prepared, but I've calmed down now. I liked TV mode because it presented a paradox. It was slow going, sometimes genuinely boring under certain circumstances (sandwiched between dialogue scenes, for example). It made you sit there and think about what to do next. There was no combat and as we all know, combat is the core of action games. Anti-zoomer design philosophy. BUT. The sound design was fucking impeccable. It was jingling keys in a baby's face perfected. Instant aural stimulation whenever you like. Moving, getting Gear Coins, Corruption, event-related sound effects. The sound designers gave it their all and it showed. I would stay in TV mode for longer than necessary just to hear more. Pro-zoomer design philosophy. Head's all fucked up again today. You don't have to get it. I don't either. Mostly.
>>1500193 Aren't you a new player, why are you talking about TV's lamo when you said you started the game?
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>>1500095 Even most of the downsides weren't even that bad tbh, I think people got a really negative view for it through the summaries posted during its release on JP along with its dogshit release schedule, though admittedly there was some insane shit that can thankfully be explained of it just being sheer sabotage (handling of kuzonoha)
PSA for people that pulled Shungus but not her ball (and are still looking for a cope option): The second part of her basic attack combo as well as her held basic ATATATATATATATATATA attack, if her Qingming force meter isn't full, can both activate the additional effect of Billy's Signature W-engine (her dodge counter MIGHT be able to as well, but only if there's another enemy on the field) The only downside to this: once she enters the Enlighted Mind state (ie consumes her Qingming meter), she has no other way of re-activating the W-engine's effect; and since the Enlightened state lasts for about 16 seconds, that means you won't get the Phys damage bonus for more than half it's duration I tested for a couple hours, and by far the most efficient method was to trigger it after basic attack 2 (ideally as soon as the damage numbers popup, because otherwise she inches a bit forward before the animation can fully pull her 6 meters away). There's also a chance that whichever elite you're fighting can walk forward a bit before the attack hits them, so you have to keep note of that as well There might be a few other ways to activate it though (I tried dodge counter stuff with her special attack but it didn't work) and if I find anything else I'll make an update
>>1500169 Nobody is saying they don't want action game stuff, you're assuming that this is a one thing or the other situation. It's not. If you could stop and think on the DMC example I gave instead of dismissing it as "retarded" maybe you'd realize the point. DMC isn't the only action game sequence to feature puzzle rooms in the critical path either, it's very common actually. There's an entire game design philosophy around it. If you ONLY have action combat nonstop it gets stale. Puzzles break up the monotony. Abstracting the story into a 2D sprite based grid allows more creativity and freedom in expressing events, because you can rely on the players imagination instead of having black screens with white text everywhere like we have currently. Sure, those existed back then too, but they're 10x more common now. Back during TVs when characters talked in the middle of a mission you could comfortably sit there and experience the dialogue. Now, 9/10 times this dialogue happens mid fucking combat and you have to run around in circles to make sure you don't miss anything since the enemies in story missions are made of paper mache.
TV mode was just a bit too clunky. Moving your square around had this weird delay to it that made everything feel slow. I don't necessarily miss the old TV mode too much but I do wish that the devs would've TRIED to make it better before just shelving it completely. It definitely added to the unique vibe of the game; a vibe that is steadily becoming less common.
>>1500201 nice, I was gonna try this but I haven't rolled her yet
>>1500198 really goes to show how shit your argument is if the dude that wasn't around for TV mode agrees with us
>>1500198 bakery is gone, but the smell is still in the air
>>1500198 >>1500193 >No TV in the post Uh oh the dog is barking at everything that moves!!!
>>1500214 I don't miss this track though, I'll give you that.
Uh oh, someone is getting canceled
>>1500214 I miss this track, transition to battle theme was nice
>>1500192 >they turned the story chapters into a visual novels. yeah I was waiting like an hour to do anything during the first part of the story this patch
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Let me calm down my melt a bit and explain. TV's were terrible in the way they were put into the game due almost no combat. Some parts of it were good like being able to talk to NPC's and it was was better for getting story out of it and I did like this and miss Also TV's were made really bad with grid base movement that did help make puzzles more puzzles, but was over all very lame and lead a game one of their man things being action combat not having you do it. Now what we have now is better one way with combat, but running between stuff is has less .. well dialog where you have NPC's talk about such and actually could be fixed much easier then TV modes by just adding real things to do between combat when you hack stuff. Liek you could actually go back into a little mini TV modes just for that and it would be neat as well. I just generally think it was poorly made and very bad outside of a few things and not built for something where you have to do like all of the time in game, even more where it wasn't broken up with any combat at all and the grid base stuff just was not good in a game like this.
Nothing but rotten luck irl lately, but I got some nice upgrades for best girl.
>>1500234 jackpot
>>1500234 why is it auto-translated?
>>1500238 Man it's bullshit this stuff is stuck only to one outfit
>BP ball selector is now an item sad that it still on timer tho
>>1500212 I find it makes her pre-enhanced state more fun to play too, since it gives you an extra condition to manage beyond "accumulate Qing > unleash Ming". Obviously not as good as her own signature (and even W1 Brimstone might be better) but if you're just hoping to clear Shiyu and DA, then it's definitely good enough
TV mode had the hoyo wide issue of making things look cool at the expense of snappy responsive gameplay, and stopping you in your tracks every 10 seconds >Movement was server-side instead of client-side, so if you connection wasn't spotless you'd get delay when moving >Oh you got into an event here watch this slow camera zoom in, listening to some npc say 3 lines that add nothing, then watch a slow zoom out <Those in particular were such a problem that they were the only noticeable improvement they added in 1.1, they were sped up and had the screen shake removed, made them look worse but feel so much better >Got into another event, watch some banal dialogue, here let us SLOWLY pan the camera around the board so you can see what you're supposed to do, then zoom in AGAIN to straight up tell you what you're supposed to do >Got into a combat tile, watch the zoom in into a SLOW loading screen >Finished combat, gotta watch the wipeout and then zoom back out into tv mode <This happened constantly and broke the gameplay flow, I deliberately avoided combat tiles just to not have to sit through the load screen and wipeouts The concept of TV mode was good, but like many other things it turned into trash the moment it got the hoyo flair added.
>>1500234 Damn, my Trigger is about to fall out of the top 100. I need to get her a better disc 6.
I still can't get over how in the world where Intelligent Constructs exist, she wants to fuck an actual non-sentient coffee-maker.
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>>1500247 Hoyogames are at their best in general when they let puzzles be puzzles. Give the minimal amount of information needed to solve it then let go of the player's hand. Half the reason some TV felt so sluggish to people is because Fairy had to stop and explain everything. When that wasn't the case, TVs were great. ...Man, I miss Fairy's trivia challenges.
>>1500257 She's so hot too, look how slim her waist is for how massive those milkbags are
>>1500257 it was somewhat sentient
>>1500002 The current gameplay format works well for the "field work" story we've been getting, but the TV interface fit perfectly for events and sidequests. The events have been fine even without TVs but the sidequests basically just died after 1.0, it's all been fetch quests or trivial combat sections since.
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how much longer
>>1500244 yeah wouldn't be surprised if brimstone is better, but I think it's a better choice than any of the non-limited crit rate main stat engines that some people were trying to suggest before her release
>>1500232 I thought I was having a stroke reading all that, but I managed. I think I understand your point, but I can't offer an adequate response, sorry. All I have to say is that getting upset over it now is a lost cause. I don't believe that our devs will be able to come up with a satisfying alternative with the way they keep throwing in replacement mechanics that don't receive improvement after the patch they're introduced in. I also don't believe that they'll ever find a good enough reason for them to try and bring TV mode back in a form that doesn't significantly take time away from the action gameplay. You just gotta pray.
>>1500272 It's ok anon, I have dyslexia. Dont; expect amazing writing from me.
>>1500259 I mean for all the shit I just gave them for stopping players constantly to explain obvious shit... They kinda need to. Remember streamers on launch week trying to go through story mode and taking ages to solve puzzles my 6 month old nephew could solve in a minute, and then complaining that it was too hard and that the game was trash (it was also trash when it was too easy)? THAT'S the average player. If you don't explain everything to a t, and don't remind them constantly, their ADHD zoomer brain WILL forget and complain. And even then it will take them 10 minutes or more of full brain thinking to put 2 and 2 together.
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>>1499980 There was times when it was actually used to good effect. One would be the ghost stuff in the towers and other was the Prophecy. I guess the first summer event was also pretty good. Arpeggio vault was everything that was bad about TV mode condensed into shit event, what were they thinking with that?
was ball creation always 6 chips?
Orphie is a fatty btw
TV mode will return as one of the events as a test. MARK MY WORDS!
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>>1500277 >Arpeggio vault was everything that was bad about TV mode condensed into shit event, what were they thinking with that? I legit think they thought this is what people wanted in TV mode, no other reason to do that.
>>1500278 no, it did cost upgrade material too
>>1500276 And the devs also had to explain that Spook Shack is a forum instead of a school The casual player is just braindead or is playing 6 gachas at the same time and gets information crossed between them
>>1500287 yeah I too remember I had to farm 10x of blue tier wengine upgrade mats for each copy, but how much chips did it cost to create one?
>>1500285 I know some people really liked old hollow zero and while I thought it wasn't that bad and had some soulful interaction with Agents and stuff doing it weekly was a chore. I'm not exactly fan of the current hollow zero either but it feels bit faster. Corruption maxing was fun though.
>>1500272 Also as I said I think it could be done if they added hacking mini games where instead you go back into old TV mode for the exploring area's just like little mini ares in TV mode stuff you could make it more like Hollow Zero i that was a better mix of the two.
>>1500277 >Oh people hate having to transition from TV to combat because it's too slow <Ok combat will be on TV mode then, no transitions no problem >People don't like being interrupted with dialogue every 10 seconds <Ok they won't get interrupted AT ALL, no dialogue whatsoever, just pure riveting TV gameplay It's like they saw the feedback, they saw the issues, but instead of addressing them sensibly, they took a shotgun and started shooting everything people didn't like, like it would magically fix TV mode. Out of sight out of mind right?
Maybe I should've not ran just a trial Trigger in a Hard commission...
>>1500260 I finally get it now... She wanted her milk to mix with the coffee it creates!
>>1500277 Nah, Arpeggio was made to make people hate TVs so they wouldn't ask for them back anymore
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>>1500287 >>1500293 nvm, it was 6 chips per weapon >crafted 4x W5 gemini and 2x W5 fossilized >thats 216 chips nyo.... it could've been chinky ball
>>1500310 eww, women are so gross
>>1500276 You can't get around this at least in the main story. They need every thirdoid/content creator retard player finishing that. But you also can't lock too many rewards behind better puzzles in side content either or people will complain.
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>>1500276 I understand this as the reason we have puzzles like that fucking 7777 puzzle a few patches ago, and it burns me that it's come to that. >>1500277 Arpeggio was them tossing every last bit of TV they could into one event since it was being deprecated. Unfortunately, they also threw in the worst parts. It wasn't just the Prophecy, though. I remember the Infinite Labyrinth commission, and the Icebreaker puzzle one. Both uniquely suited to TV format, both pretty damn fun. I'm sure there's more but I can't remember off the top of my head. >>1500305 I think a good part of that was that ZZZ is a largely experimental game and the suits were watching closely. Devs couldn't afford not to take the loudest feedback when ZZZ was still fresh. While I don't think ZZZ would have had an EOS if it didn't have a strong start, I do think they'd have devs and support pulled, which would have a snowball effect. So with that in mind, devs did the only thing they could do: address the loudest feedback, and that was TVs unfortunately. And lacking the time to iterate, they went with the nuclear option. It is what it is.
Day 3 of ghosting Guangguang and day 2 of ghosting Zhao Zhao’s day 2 reply is literally the same thing as her first reply except that’s staring at mountains instead of the ocean, despite every other character in the game so far having unique replies to being ghosted on different invites Dev favorite btw
>>1500315 If I had a wife and she made coffee for me with her own milk, I would drink it even though I hate coffee.
>>1500319 >ZZZ is a largely experimental game Think about how many fucking game modes we get from events all being different ass things. Some are pretty shit like auto chess, but some are fun. I know some people like auto chess I guess? Co-op is fun, but needs some working building off it a bit, so I hope that ones get's more.
my ID tried to use a hypnosis app on me so we could go on a date and I pretended that it worked because it would have been awkward otherwise but now we’re going to a hotel and I’m regretting my choices
>>1500328 Joyous...
I was about to complain about having to replay 1.7 because of an Outpost commission, but it was that one mission where Shifu has arrived. All is forgiven.
>>1500321 >Free character so kit is mid >Only 1 ghosting event with slight differences >M6 is an actual no bullshit for real SCAM I've seen male characters treated better than this, jesus.
>>1500331 proxy being a dead weight annoys me to this day, eous died for this
>>1500338 I have heard tons of people complaining about the M6. Whats the tl;dr?
>>1500331 >hymen breaking technique
>>1500338 She'll get buffed!!
>>1500345 HE should get to keep his robot from the robot event since in the story now it's canon they can have them
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>>1500352 Chinks are illiterate and fucked up the kit description They do not care about reports for it because they come from a western audience
>>1500338 Now people can't complain that only female characters get preferential treatment.
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I don't even know why I still bother reading CSM Part 2. Zenless Zone Zero
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>>1500338 Potential unlock in six months, TRUST THE PLAN TRUST IT, DAMMIT AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE god please Dawei, stop doing free characters like this.
>>1500352 tl;dr is that it has anti-synergy with the rest of the kit and buffs a part of her kit that isn't even good in the first place
>>1500338 Maybe they just assumed no one would be heartless enough to ghost her
>>1500331 I did the 1.6 from an outpost commission and wanted to kill myself. It was only 8 minutes but fuck man. At least let me choose my own characters
>>1500367 Sunk cost. Time to see how shit it is
>>1500338 lore accurate Zhao...
>>1500352 It's worded in a way that supposedly makes it so that her charged attack only needs to charge once, which will be stored and from then on all charged attacks will just use that accumulated charge to be performed instantly. Well it doesn't work like that.
>>1500369 >>1500379 Damn, that's kinda grim. Usually you'd expect final upgrade to be a game changer.
>>1500384 Yeah... Zhao is the first character I've ever M6'd in a Hoyo game and it ended up being a huge letdown. At least I won't be tricked again, I'll just be an M1-2W1 chud for life
Speaking of final upgrades, I can't wait to get SS Anby's M6 but IT'S SO FUCKING FAR AWAY
Sex with my ID. >>1500338 Zhao was vandalized by the marketing department. They probably didn't think she'd be popular. Mind you her kit right now is better than what her original one was btw, they set her up for failure from the start.
>>1500395 I thought this would be some asinine barely gameplay-related bullshit, the usual Reddit fare, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HOLLOW ZERO BANGBOOS
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>>1500388 I wonder if somewhere out there is M6 Caesar. Wasn't her final upgrade something that made her into somewhat capable damage dealer? I want my King buffed already!
>>1500384 Yeah see the M6 description reads >accumulated charge time is no longer consumed when attacking You would naturally think that this means <oh well that means that following charged attacks will be released instantly NO. What it actually does is that it stored the DAMAGE, not the DURATION. M6 makes it so that you can do a charged attack and let it go instantly and still get the damage as if it was charged for 5 seconds. Except that only works if you're ON-FIELDING her, because there's no way to release the attack prematurely to take advantage of M6 if you switch off of her, except doing just that and letting her attack automatically is what she is designed to do. It's completely anti-synergistic with her kit because it's designed to let people on-field her, but everything else about her discourages that.
>>1500321 >>1500338 FUCK DAWEI >>1500352 M6 description: "...and accumulated charge time is no longer consumed when attacking." Basic attack: Final Verdict description: "While charging, Zhao accumulates up to 5s of charge time." "When Zhao is in any Ether Veil, if she gets switched out while charging, the charge can continue." She shouldn't need to keep charging since she already has accumulated the 5s of charge time previously, but alas the development team's favorite gets treated like this.
>>1500395 >Orphie already getting buffed for the new Hollow Zero game mode Blessed.
>>1500412 Even then, the damage on the enhanced basic is so pathetic that it's not worth playing around in the first place. She does more damage with every other attack she has, you do more damage doing the basic string than you do spamming charged basics even with M6's instant charge.
>>1500395 I don't know what new stuff means but I hope older characters are finally getting Lost Void stuff added
>>1500423 Do the rest of her mindscapes do anything cute and funny or are they as dismal as I heard about while she was in the beta?
>>1500395 BASED
>>1500408 I have a feeling the next big round of buffs will be her, Zhu and Chinky with going back into pubsec
>>1500424 When you press the button to summon the bangboo you've choses to do their attack and give their buff (decibels, health, etc)... In 2.6 they will be replaced by agents. Like, you stun the enemy but you're out of resources? No problem, press the summon button and watch your buddy Hugo materialize from thin air and TOTALIZE for you.
>>1500395 >Removed the additional bangboo from LV >Replaced them with a 4th Agent's Ultimate Bangbwos... i'm kidding, i've barely ever used the bangboo ability tbh
>>1500426 Dismal, just small dps upgrades and a team wide atk buff on c2 She is quite literally just a veil slave for ye shillguang
>>1500430 Zhu needs complete redesign. She feels clunky to play and it also feels like she does no damage even though she should be good at nuking things. Maybe I have just built her wrong.
>>1500338 >We deeply apologize to all players who were disappointed with Zhao's M6 performance. >Moving forward, we will re-evaluate her performance and push forward a satisfactory change as soon as possible. >While we will not be processing any refunds or rollback requests for Zhao pulls, to compensate, we will be sending all M6 owners a life-size Zhao plushy with proportions similar to her in-game model. >We hope for all proxies to keep exploring the hollow with us and have an enjoyable experience when playing our game.
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>>1500395 >summons any of the 4 agents you've chosen and it activates their ult Soulless.
>>1500435 Damn. I rolled her ball because I love the labubu's design but its kind of sad how dirty they did her.
>>1500437 I feel like she's smore fixable then let's say Nekomata. To be real all 3 who I said need a redesign since the way combat went fully changed since when they were released
>>1500423 the funny part is the stored charge time buffs her assist follow-up, but you can't defensive assist with her while she's charging once I realized her charged attack was shit I thought M6 was useful for getting to ignore it, but no it's not that either
>>1500395 OHHH SHIT
>>1500426 M1 and M2 are both for support, with M1 (15% DEF ignore during Ether Veil) being much better than M2 (15% attack buff). M4 and M6 both buff Zhao's personal damage, which her personal damage isn't the worst. I was just hoping with M6 I would basically have another Orphie.
>>1500448 Shes still good but the mindscapes are so atrocious They want you to get her ball and put her with shillguang to be a temporary slave thats going to be thrown away the moment a new support comes out
>>1500456 >but you can't defensive assist with her while she's charging Wait are you serious? That almost sounds like a bug it's so shit
this thread made me miss TVs again
>>1500437 She's a pure vanilla burst-in-stun character in a game that's full of >characters who can deal solid damage out of stun and burst in stun >characters who don't care about stun >characters who can end stun instantly with a TOTALIZEillion damage so they can get more stuns to TOTALIZE Not to mention her main competition is someone who can throw out two ults per stun.
>>1500465 >Wait are you serious? Yes, if she's sitting off-field charging you can't defensive assist with her. If you're playing Zhao + Astra, it just completely turns off your assists while she's charging lmao
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>>1500462 >the moment a new support comes out Still on V0 for beat changes right now, so who knows.
>>1500468 Don't forget enemies like Jane and Hugo who exit stun before she even finishes unloading all her cancer bullets into them.
>>1500465 >That almost sounds like a bug it's so shit Nope, they really just fucked her over that much. FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI FUCK DAWEI
>>1500395 >actual state assigned gf
>>1500437 Didn't Dialyn shadowbuff Zhu just by existing as Dialyn?
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>>1500473 HOLLOW ZERO 2
>>1500462 >They want you to get her ball and put her with shillguang to be a temporary slave thats going to be thrown away the moment a new support comes out They didn't even give her a week before her replacement got dripped...
>>1500437 >give her aftershock attacks that spend shell charges >spending shell charges give special shell charges >give her ult a totalize and increase it's damage based on the amount of held special shell charges Pair this along with the following chinky buff >successfully dodging an attack with her enhanced basic refunds the meter >using her chain attack gives the team decibels
>>1500473 are they STILL recycling Hollow Zero resonia assets from 1.0??
>>1500486 Yeah but it doesn't change anything, because she buffed everyone else too, more than Zhu even.
>>1500493 its called a resource management
>>1500459 >>1500462 Well I'm just glad she's good at what she's made for, I guess. I skipped Ye so I'm not using her for that. I'm experimenting with her on a Miyabi team so my Yuzuha can stick with Alice. Seems to work alright so far.
>>1500473 >Resonia Set: Fun FVARK
>>1500492 >>successfully dodging an attack with her enhanced basic refunds the met I feel the problem is dodging juts isn't good anymore compared to parrying with what you get from parrying and how many fights want you parry instead of dodge
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>>1500493 They know they can't beat 1.0's pure unfiltered SOVL so they just reuse it endlessly.
>>1500504 You can use Trigger + Zhao with any attacker and they're gigaboosted. Just don't expect any improvement going from M1 to M6. I skipped Astra and Yuzuha so Zhao is still good for my account.
>>1500468 I like the small attentions to detail about Zhu, like how she doesn't have all the armaments when walking around and in the character select she actually has all the big gun parts in her armor which she puts on to the gun when switching poses. One day us Caesar and ass cop owners will laugh at all the people who are currently laughing at us caause we rolled for bricks!
People are still mixing up RES shred, DEF shred and PEN in big 2026.
>>1500492 Unironically Qingyi needs some sort of aftershock because her ball doesn't work with her. Trigger makes better use of it. >When a Basic Attack hits an enemy, gain 1 stack of Tea-riffic. Each stack of Tea-riffic increases the user's Impact by 0.7%, stacking up to 30 times, and lasting for 8s. The duration of each stack is calculated separately. Upon acquiring Tea-riffic, if the equipper possesses stacks of Tea-riffic greater than or equal to 15, all squad members' DMG is increased by 20% for 10s >8s of teariffic >10s of dmg% It completely drops off before the stun rotation even begins properly, and there's no way to refresh it. You're better off using Lycaon's sig because at least she deals more dmg and stuns slower so you can get 2 EBAs off. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING.
>>1500493 Literally no reason to not reuse it.
>>1500523 It doesn't help in game they don;t explain the difference really that well at all.
>>1500523 Just want until the ///G O N G\\\ introduces Anomaly Build Up Res Shred
>>1500523 just use optimizer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM6QTqUMs7s Just run zhao ans sunna together
>>1500532 just wait*
>>1500041 I bet they could cut down on that loading time even more, and it's probably faster for other people anyways. maybe I got lucky with the mission I picked but this one had 3 different combat nodes with multiple fights in them and a bit at the end where you had to escort people out of the hollow while avoiding getting hit by trains so it was good one. if I had level 20 characters, like I did back when I did this at launch, it would've been a decent amount of combat for 1 story mission. I also feel like things were more compartmentalized back then too so instead of chaining you along for an hour like they do with the story now you could do one of these then go do something else in the game and it would feel more natural than taking a break for something else with the way the story is handled now.
>>1500511 Dodge is good in tower where I have not memorized if attack can be parried or dodged! But if you're talking about dodge counter yeah, I have no idea what good that is for. I think it was once upon a time supposed to be more damaging vs parry's daze but generally daze is way more valuable and many DA stuff requires you to parry shit anyway.
>>1500525 >8s of teariffic Her spazming keeps this stacked indefinitely dobeit >10s of dmg% Will become more than enough (at least for Zhu) with my buff idea. I like these characters best when played together for obvious reasons, so my idea of buffs centers around making the pair better together.
you know what qingyi really needs? make it so you can hold the attack button for her basic attacks (instead of mashing) and then for her enhanced attacks that apply the stun multiplier you have to properly time the button presses
M6 Zhao should just give her Miyabi's charged basic
>>1500426 >>1500435 >>1500459 Both M1 and M2 are very good though. M1 is 15% RES Shred for the entire squad. This is massive. M2 is 15% ATK increase, which is not as massive but pretty substantial, given it's like 400~550 flat ATK worth depending on agents.
>>1500518 I can't consider Zhu a brick given that she carried my ass with her ass for the entirety of 1.x. Yeah Yixuan replaced her, but that first year of endgame would've been brutal without my asscop. Caesar though... she's the only character I would refund if given the chance. I was so naive back then, thinking her buffs were insane and her shield was godly...
>>1500534 Somehow I knew using both fo them would be good
M6 Zhao should make her flopping over animation after running do 100 billion damage
>>1500543 Nah, that part doesn't need to change. >b-but my carpal tunnel Go mow the lawn or something gramps
>>1500549 Now compare that to astras C1 and C2
>>1500536 oh ye I was gonna say loading stuff between combats wasn't as bad as I remember it being that was the whole point of the vid
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>>1500555 kids and their button mashing I swear
>>1500550 zhu > yixuan on the 2.6 boss, don't @ me
>>1500557 Unfair comparison Astra is the CCP mandated overpowered chinawank character like Shungus. They play in completely different leagues.
>>1500557 Astra's M1 is 18% RES Shred and is widely considered to be the best in the game. Astra's M2 is 400 flat ATK extra.
>>1500525 >You're better off using Lycaon's sig because at least she deals more dmg and stuns slower Is 30% Daze worse than 21% Impact?
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>>1500523 Yes that's me
>>1500550 >thinking her buffs were insane and her shield was godly... They were. for like 1 patch, the decibel changes fucked her over massively. Her ultimate is only good for removing miasma shield and that's about it. I also hate how you can't change out of it like you can with Orphie and Burnice.
>>1500555 I need my hands in good shape so I can healthily jerk off though...
def shred 🤷res shred
>>1500247 Facts, TVMode only needed to be seamless Ironically the only remediable quality of Arpeggio
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>>1500523 99% of the playerbase aren't gonna read the fucking damage calculation document bro, I don't blame them.
>>1500555 I'm 25, been playing video games since I was 3 and I'm starting to feel my left wrist acting up. This shit is no joke, I'm telling you
>>1500532 introduces?
>>1500395 >Huge comes in, TOTALIZES, leaves
>>1500540 >Her spazming keeps this stacked indefinitely dobeit Yes while she's on field. >Will become more than enough (at least for Zhu) with my buff idea No it won't, at most you will get it for CAs an maybe 2 or 3 out of the 9+ shots. Your buff doesn't change that whatsoever because it doesn't refresh teariffic stacks during stun so that the dmg% buff stays active long enough.
>>1500437 she's designed to nuke shit on stun, and still does to the extent that the game lets her, but the game moved away from stun gameplay because people want to onfield their dpses more. of course she also feels less effective because she came along before hp inflation skyrocketed >>1500538 dodge counter is useful for red flashes, of course, tho less so now that enemies attack in flurries and don't allow for counters as much. also, Qingyi was meant to stay on field until you get your stun, and was designed to work with Zhu, who doesn't parry. and you have to remember that DA wasn't a thing back then
>>1500597 bwo read my post again >totalize
>>1500600 I retract my statement and would like to apologize, I hyperfocused on Qingyi's part.
You guys think it's a good idea to buy some intel stocks right before CES? Zenless Zone Zero
>>1500525 >It completely drops off before the stun rotation even begins properly Default stun is 12 seconds. Your final Qingyi hit should land as the stun starts. If you really want to, you can even fit in a cheeky BA 2+ seconds into the stun to have 100% stun coverage. >You're better off using Lycaon's sig That's one of the stupidest sentences ever written. >at least she deals more dmg She wouldn't. Her own sig is her best option for damage.
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>>1500523 there is absolutely no reason to learn any of this shit
>>1500590 you gotta start doing finger/wrist stretches if you aren't already. I began doing them after picking up my gamecube controller and it's done ample for my hand health
>>1500609 Ellen would say that and Dialyn would say that
>>1500605 Isn't Intel making new manufacturing fabs or something like that? Maybe its a good idea.
>>1500566 You missed a few details there C1 - 18% all RES shred, 1000 decibels for her on start, ult gives a stack of invulnerability thats consumed on hit that lasts 1 second C2 - ATK buff from core is increased by 19%, maximum of the buff is increased by 400 When her buff from ex is active QAing, chaining and parrying will make her stars rain down Its an unfortunate reality but zhaos mindscapes are simply not worth any money whatsoever
>>1500611 >finger/wrist stretches I'm curious what you do
>>1500608 Stop disproving my stupid arguments dammit. VALIDATE ME.
>>1500590 did you change attack from clicking to another button? i changed my attack button to my alt key
>>1500611 I'm not sure if it's a good idea. I hurt my wrist carrying a gym bag over my shoulder and back. I was gripping the handles in front of my chest with my wrist hyperextended. So technically speaking, it was the stretching that caused it to act up for a few days, now it's gone back to normal but I can still feel a weird sensation in it whenever I'm typing on my keyboard for a longer period of time >>1500643 No I simply avoided playing Chinky because of it lol
I wonder how worth these are going to be
Zhao's V1 kit was so fucking dogshit, it pisses me off now that I remember it.
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>>1500590 Bwo you have to be more conscious of what's happening to your body. Just stop when it starts to feel weird.
Bros I can't wait
wtf angels 2.0?
>>1500682 We actually are gonna get a music faction each season, giga based
>>1500632 >1000 decibels for her on start very minor impact on DA, has some uses in Shiyu (sometimes). Quite often does nothing. >ult gives a stack of invulnerability thats consumed on hit that lasts 1 second doesn't matter, might as well not do anything >ATK buff from core is increased by 19% Doesn't do anything. Zhao's M1 and M2 are very good.
>>1500682 2 > 1
>>1500681 biocock shitfinite
>>1500682 >New musical group Yeah we can see the pictures >We will be seeing more in season 3 Source? It came to him in a dream
>>1500682 The cunny wars have begun
>>1500682 more cunny for me
>>1500682 >Angels Rival Faction >They Demon/devil themed. someone out there is about to cum very hard. Sunna is about to get bratcrept.
>>1500682 I stand with the Angels! Fuck (rape) the Forecasters!
>>1500682 I claim the red one. Others can no longer claim her. Thank you and good day.
>>1500695 the main pink girl kinda looks like aria, could it be that the nega aria in the leaks went on to start a rival band?
>>1500658 15% DEF shred sounds worse than 15-18% RES shred other supports have on C1. 15% RES shred for her marks exclusively sounds bad even if the marks deal non-meme numbers. It'll 100% gets shuffled around like how it always happens with numbers on support kits. >>1500661 I still wish they kept working on the V1 kit, a generalist with specialised buffs for every speciality is a fun concept.
>>1500704 More like nigga Aria
>>1500682 Kanigods wonned bigly
>>1500682 >cunnycasters are devils Gehenna bwos we won........
>>1500682 The look like background characters from a Cartoon network cartoon.
>>1500695 would be kino to have a cunny rival band
>>1500600 giving other crit burst damage characters totalize in their base kit makes no sense, it's not like abloom where everyone that has it plays differently. you give one of them totalize and their entire being is "I totalize" everything that they do is then built around that fact. and if you're like "oh I'll give them good multipliers on their other stuff so they're more than just that" then the totalize isn't even worth it because they'd do more with the normal rotation on stun window than they would with a totalize. the only other implementations of totalize that made sense to me were an on field parry/dodge based dps that has a weaker totalize so that they could get the enemy back on their feet to have more stuff to parry/dodge and an anomaly totalize which people were theorycrafting because of aria's disks but I don't remember the details for it
padme's erotic blue tongue
> The akhal teke is heavily marketed as the hanxuema 汗血宝马 in modern times in Chinese, but the hanxuema commonly spoken of in China is an extinct species that is almost mythical in status and commonly used in fantasy or wuxia stories. In fact, it is also commonly called tianma 天马 or horse from the heavens/sky. There is no remaining fossils or specimen of the hanxuema, only stories and paintings. There is no way to scientifically test if the hanxuema and the Akhal teke are even closely related Ohhh interesting, so the livestream thing was just a difficult translation thing and Yebibi is a mythical horse Thiren rather than a simple Ahtal Ka
>>1500634 The first (and simplest) video I followed was this one, it's only 5 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiRC80FJbHU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzjOCYkn8mY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXkSDfgAHGw I've had the best results following these two videos (before and after each lengthy session). I don't rigorously follow them anymore, but that's mostly because I haven't had enough handpain as of recent to keep up with it. Whenever I'm out for a walk I try to remind myself to do them, but it'll take a while before you memorize most of the motions if you primarily use a controller, this one's short too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaZyefgHbo8
>>1500729 grassy, woody, bricky....
>>1500686 Holy Fuck I need her so bad
>>1500729 FVARK . . .
>>1500729 Bricky, Grassy, and Woody are gonna form ZZ(Z) Top, holy shit
>>1500690 Bibian wouldn't say that
>>1500729 why does she look like one of those homestuck characters
What are the chances that Ding-Dong Big-Gong will be a stunner that works with rupture?
>>1500734 I'm also a controller andy so this interests my aging joints
>>1500729 My fvarking heroes.
>>1500744 >other two characters are anomaly and anomaly buffer I'm going to say, low
>>1500747 I fuckin hope so
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>>1500729 >S rank Lucy tease
>>1500682 I like the blonde one
>>1500744 Sunna works with Attackers and Aria works with Anomaly (disorder/abloom) so it'd make sense if Yu pivots into Rupture, the only problem is the stats Anomaly and Rupture want are diametrically opposed.
>>1500729 >Nirvana's Nevermind reference with a Bangboo Kino...
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>>1500748 Can't believe that this was One Denny boos new job...
>>1500729 HOLY SHIT IT'S ELFY
>>1500744 >>1500757 I'm posting this in every thread until GONG's beta.
>>1500729 Froggerbwos?!
>>1500731 >Ahtal Ka Gib big bug!
she looks so happy when she's killing people...
>>1500729 404 looks like it's gonna be the most sovlful area added to date.
>>1500761 once you get to lv.10 you get more slots for new proxys?
>>1500767 >Sbilly >phys rupture We all know this is not going to happen. his tits are too small
>>1500779 Yes. 10 more slots.
>>1500779 10 more slots will be ready at 10 and 15 level 20 unlocks 20 slots
>>1500783 He stores his Sheer Force elsewhere.
>>1500682 >>1500729 That's just Etna and Flonne and... umm... hmm...
>>1500778 >went back to sixth street >game become SOVL again
>>1500682 Their clothes look too NPCish and I think there’d be too much overlap with the AoD, it’s probably going to be Monica, Padme, or Cersea for our next singers.
>>1500784 >>1500785 but those new slots are already taken I guess.
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>>1500731 She's most likely that flying fox-horse thing with a single horn. She has sharp fangs and claws, her ears are long and floppy, and her tail more closely resembles that of a fox. You're probably right about the translation, but Shushu clearly disagreed with that deduction.
>>1500685 >15% all res shred Tiddlywink dmg buff >Has to recover hp for atk buff Pissbaby useless buff You cannot deny these are very very bad mindscapes since you have to spend about 200 pulls to get them, the engine mindscapes are probably better than this
>>1500793 Fantasy Resort was sovlful too tho every other area this season was meh however
her voice (JP) is not how I remember to be, I remember they changed her VA once but is it still the same?
>>1500795 Really don't know how the board owner is gonna send the invites out its really up to him probably best to just keep an eye on the thread today for NA 8th street
>>1500802 >beach episode >more lolis >SOVL this is a fact
>>1500794 As much as I like Monica headcanons, she also has an NPC design in the posters. Isn't she just a blonde hag in a red dress?
>>1500804 The problem is old invites probably expired by now so anyone who did have one a few days ago (ie. me) is gonna need a new one, especially since the guild is invite only.
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>>1500808 She'll get suited up in some cool shit like picrel. Instead of gap moe, it's gape fucking awesome. Also wanted an excuse to post Hank.
>>1500803 Yeah it’s still the same va jp as always
10 new slots in the guild JOIN FUCKERS
>>1500803 Yanagi's seiyuu has not changed since 1.3
I don't really know how to buff Zhu other than straightforward number editing, her kit is well designed in my opinion. Not in a meta way, but in terms of having a clear gameplan and a skill floor/ceiling. I guess maybe make her magdump sequence faster? A new 4pc set would be nice too. Woodpecker feels mid, Hormone Punk is fucking annoying, and Chaotic Metal kinda locks her into teaming with Nicole(or maybe Astra?) if she wants to have it active during a stun window. I guess Puffer is good on her if she's with Dialyn? That's a bit limiting though.
>>1500808 Yeah, but she’s a big part of Eve’s promoter event, which makes me think she’ll be an Astra rival/friend eventually
>>1500803 Her voice is only different in her trailer because the VA was unavailable
>>1500819 >>1500817 probably first VA is still stuck in my head because it was first impression I liked it more too tbh
>>1499527 >more slots Sent my invite for NA. Im on the list already but my invite expired. 1000123228
>>1500818 FRESH MEAT
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Hope I can actually get in this time.
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I made it into the guild during the last round of invites but i've been doing my part so more bwos can get in
>>1499527 im still trying to join... 1000235307
Do I get another str level for s11 or save it up for sanby's
>>1500821 as a latecomer to the Zhu train, I also like her moveset a ton. Ideally they should buff her to be more viable onfield (beyond just her M1) on top increasing her stun/burst damage either way I'm curious what they're gonna do. As long as they don't nerf her EX special > dodge > EX special > dodge tech I'll be happy
I wish all you luck in joining. I did what I could for to level.
>>1500843 its an unlimited resources, there is nothing to save for
>>1499527 Just in case I guess.... UID: 1000251478
I can still post like 5 hard commissions, I’ll post them in the guild when I go play later today
>>1500849 Stop having rational thoughts and conclusions drawn from logical thinking
>>1500821 also: Dialyn is extremely good with Zhu and Puffer is her best 4pc option in that team (with Astra/Nicole as the support)
>>1500821 My suggested change that speeds up her mag dump and utilises TOTALIZE without stepping on Hugo's toes entirely is that she could have a minigame where if you press BA in a certain rhythm she speeds up her bullet expenditure and TOTALIZEs the final shot. And to make it so she doesn't waste ammo make her aftershock when overcapping.
>>1500235 it's gotta be good luck right. >>1500239 huh >>1500248 Yeah, my Lighter already did, but he's still top 1%. I've been having the worst luck on rolls for Summit and tales.
AHHHHHHHHHH CUUUUUUUTE
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Just bought QingYis engine from the exchange. Feelin good.
Holy shit it's them!
>>1500864 >Lv.0 gib bibi ball plx
>>1500248 Huh, just realized that IK considers crit a deadstat for Zhao. It was my understanding that she rather liked a decent amount of crit. HP better obvi, but still.
>>1500868 I wish I could its an extra.
>>1500843 Boopons, NOW
>>1500867 fvaaaark the yellow one
>>1499527 Already on the list, but I applied a few minutes ago 1000076198
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I am not much of a coomer and usually never have sexy dreams, but for some reason I had one about Seed tonight. [spoiler]I was stuck in a very small concrete room or box with her She was on my lap facing me and either kissing me or smelling me, all while I was groping her ass. After I fingered her with my hand in her suit and made her cum I woke up immediately.[/spoiler] I don't know what I should think about this. Anyway, my ID will visit me in my dreams tonight and do some actual degenerate shit.
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>>1500870 Imagine If they release some sort of market place where you can post your extra balls and people pay with monochromes.
>>1500878 Why is the spoiler bricked. Also, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LEVEL 10 Okay if you received an invite to 8th Street and failed to get in, respond with your UID (I know who you are, but I want to prioritize active posters). Everyone else, respond with your UID and roll a d100: https://8chan.moe/.static/pages/posting.html You have 12 hours. Highest rollers that have their UID on the rentry get in. Sorry but this is the best I could come up with to give people a fair chance. Depending on the number of responses I get, we might start an overflow guild. Make sure people that come into the thread later (and the following thread) know about this post. also sex with my ID
God damn it
Just got off the phone with the NA Eight Street Guild Master. He accidentally overwrote the UID waiting list with manifesto about Vivian Banshee. You're all going to have to resubmit your UIDs
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>>1500893 Hope you like your jizz being compared to teamilk, BO
>>1500892 >>1500893 Sorry chief but thems the breaks.
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>>1500892 >I know who you are
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oh shit I get another one of these things at 40? I NEED THAT, FUCK
>>1500892 1003232091 I was a little late accepting last time and nice roll.
>>1500910 Woah thats nice. I was already redeeming beforehand
>>1500910 Battlepass seems way more worth now
>>1500892 1000076198 1d100 = 49
>>1500892 I'm reading this as those already in have to take no action, correct?
>>1500910 there is an easy way to redeem it
>>1500892 UID: 1001057700 1d100 = 24
>>1500892 1000235307
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>>1500892 NA 1000070984 I had an invite before but it expired.
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Fufu is now also void hunter level, please roll
>>1500892 Gonna get fucked by dice 1000123228 1d100 = 65
>>1500914 >>1500892 Also just in case I read that wrong I should roll too Let me take on everyone elses bad luck 1d100 = 4
>>1500892 whoops forgot my dice 1d100 = 39 1000235307
>>1500919 Premium BP also gives you one extra, so two in total. I dunno if it's worth it for others but I always wanted a maxed out Janeball for my Piper and I really like playing Burnice(even more now that her buffs feel great to play with) so the premium is now a must have for me.
>>1500934 Tigers Bane Bell sounds like it WOULD be on the same tier as Void Hunter shit, it basically does the same thing as the fucking swords.
>>1500941 I mean it's much more worth it now since the ball from it were not that good after you got cope lips really. This lets you be able to max out some better balls for cope stuff.
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Right, I wanted to talk about this but the timing was terrible earlier. I really enjoyed the exploration this patch, I feel like they've gotten better at it. It's short and sweet, there are simple and longer fights, a few rests and simple puzzles here and there, the navigation is clear enough, and there's quite a bit of lore to go through. I also wanted to talk about the lore. Was Lady Sunbringer a slave driver or were the managers using her figure to push unreasonable quotas? The former would tie with bangboos who can work almost tirelessly, but the latter would be more relevant to the recent story. We also got to know a lot more about porcelume. One last thing is, everyone in this not!Soviet union part of the Lemnian Hollow had Russian names, and it made me wonder if agents like Anton Ivanov or their families were originally from there. Unrelated cute Shushu for attention.
>>1500942 >sounds like it WOULD be on the same tier as Void Hunter it is though
>>1500924 >I'm reading this as those already in have to take no action, correct? You do commissions.
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>>1500892 1005991478 didn't get an invite despite being on the renty so I guess I'm rollin rollin rollin 1d100 = 31
Not being able to post disc farming commissions sucks.
>>1500934 FUFU UPSCALE
>>1500961 It's still new, I hope they build more on it
>>1500961 bwo you can just sweep discs without even needing to play the game now, why would you need this
>>1500961 >>1500965 there's no disc farming commissions because you use these to get the same result
>>1500919 >>1500946 >namecard >wengine material >Elfy resonating core instead of another tuning calibrator all in the tier 1 battlepass. That's WAY better as long as they don't bump up the price
>>1500967 >>1500974 i think he wants disk commisions for the same reason i want it something we can infinitely post as commissions so everyone can cap their shit i have no need for weekly mats or expert challenge mats, my skills are capped you will see people posting it only when they grab a new character
All this chaos to get into NA Eight Street, meanwhile us EU Eight Street zzziggas are just chilling
>>1500967 I'd add disk farm and H0 to commissions honestly. Notorious Hunts and Mats are something you need a finite amount of.
>>1500948 Yebibi sexo
>>1500983 To be fair we actually use the puzzles pieces from hunts now
>>1500892 NA 1000070068 I got into the list but no invitation yet, here goes the roll. 1d100 = 37
>>1500989 energy based hunts give no puzzle pieces
>>1500975 But the cool TV phone...
>>1500979 Yeah exactly. Plus another way for people to keep playing with their agents.
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>>1500729 lmfao the fucking Nirvana reference, I love our devs so much
>>1500979 >>1500983 >he doesn't keep a surplus of notorious hunt mats from every boss so he can max any character day 1 ngmi
Today's word of the day is: loll https://www.merriam-webster.com/word-of-the-day/
Everyone who rolled below 50 on a 1d100 will also lose their 50/50
>>1501000 Only lasts as long as it takes the next Notorious Hunt boss to come out, though. When was the last time you used UCC mats?
>>1501001 letting my dick loll out in the breeze
>>1501008 They really need to stop adding new ones and start letting agents use older mats for hunts...
>>1501000 No I'm quite good on that too.
>>1499527 >61/70 FINALLY. Please let me in. UID: 1001528397
>>1500948 I liked the new areas a lot too, and that's coming from someone who wasn't the biggest fan of the new hollow exploration >>1500996 I bought the premium battlepass for the first time ever just for picrel
>>1501005 If you roll a 1 the Creator refines you.
>>1501021 Me too, its so good
>>1501018 sorry bro, but you must ROLL
>>1501008 in 2.1 when i pulled yanagi on rerun, so not as long ago as you think characters also sometimes randomly just use old bosses
>>1501005 well i'm already used to that... yebibi was my only win and I consider that a fluke.
>>1501000 i am forced to have a gigantic surplus of weekly mats because of weekly free 3 clears kek
>>1500867 Damn forgot to link my post... >>1500682
Burnice better get the next Swimsuit skin like the rest of the limited Anomalies Meebs' swimsuit will be held back until SS-rank Miyabi drops
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>>1500948 >I also wanted to talk about the lore. Was Lady Sunbringer a slave driver or were the managers using her figure to push unreasonable quotas? The former would tie with bangboos who can work almost tirelessly, but the latter would be more relevant to the recent story. Sunbringer was not the slave driver, if you collect everything, almost everything points to the Lord of the community being the slave driver while Sunbringer is benevolent and was eventually betrayed and slandered with bad publicity. Factory 3 had been seeing harsh work hours for a while, resulting in low morale, which the Lord harshly reprimanded them for. The Lord also "reduced" their working hours to "only" a 14 hour work day because morale sunk so low, which says a lot. There are some other minor things I don't have the time to deep dive into now, but it eventually led to the worker rebellion in Factory 3 (which curiously coincided with an Ethereal attack on the neighboring factory). The warrant which includes Sunbringer says that she was involved in this, but I don't believe that's the case, another note you can find shows the workers seemingly organizing this rebellion by themselves with secret messages hidden on walls, which makes me think Sunbringer was used as a scapegoat because the Lord already wanted to get rid of her. Sunbringer is purely described as being helpful and kind in the notes, despite the residents still fearing her, and that lines up with how Lockspring describes her in the story. It's unrelated to your question, but I believe the Lord was the individual who would later become the Mayor.
Happy Fufu day everyone
>>1501030 Mibibi is rolling for me.
>>1501048 fat fucking tiger
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I no longer care If rats are deadly creatures.
>>1501051 well best of luck to you then
PinKing
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>>1501056 Fufu is slim and fit, see?
what's the best top up scheme to get to the free character?
>>1501065 STOP IT! STOP SHAKING MY BOY!
>>1500892 I'm already in EU outpost but I want to roll the dice too. 1d100 = 66
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>>1501065 Is that yours? Where did you get it from?
1d100 = 51 67
One day, PinKing Caesar will get a buff and become Kingpin Caesar
>>1500892 1000440241 1d100 = 34
>>1501076 got it from twitter, but its available for sale in ZZZ official taobao store
>>1501066 >Ribs on petite girl
>>1501085 >No red moccus At least they got amillion.
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>>1501001 loll lmao
>>1501058 I see the modders have made the trashiest skin even worse >>1501067 dunno, I just bought 6 months of interknot and the city fund then bought enough polys to push me over the edge. please also remember that you can use third party sites for the event.
>>1500983 the rewards for doing hz runs for others would have to be pretty hefty, particularly if they're ether 8 or above
>>1501001 where's yiddy?...
>>1500892 1000314989 1d100 = 40
>>1499527 >>1501059 I think there was a misunderstanding. I meant that 8th Street is at 61/70. English is hard, I'm sorry.
I'm sliding into 6 stars, Dawei. But NOT TODAY Also why there's a rupture boss and no rupture buff, fuck you.
>>1500892 since everyone is rolling, I want too 1d100 = 26
>>1501105 Shungy’s game now
>>1501067 >copypasting excel selection automatically converts to image wtf This website is made by aliens. Very convenient though.
>>1501112 hunter is a yixuan boss this time, I say that because she outscored my banyue on the fight
>>1501001 >no yiddy loll deez nutz bitch
I'm gonna make a suggestion I think a lot of people won't like, but it stems from my absolute hatred of Roland and how I wish to overcome his RNG hellfest through raw volume. They should add an unlimited supply of these to the z-merit shop and add HZ commissions to guilds, make completing them give z-merits that don't contribute to your weekly cap.
>>1501110 if you're on the renty and you haven't gotten an invite you'll need to 1d100 = 23 in order to gamble for one of the open spots. see >>1500892
>>1501121 >This website Bwo that's standard clipboard functionality... But it's nice that you've discovered it
>>1501121 I think its excel doing
Would you buy the Eous charger ?
>>1501065 >>1501132 I ordered a set in February. It was supposed to be released in October. Just messaged the shop to ask where's my shit.
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>>1501130 Really? I didn't expect copypasting an image into the textbox would automatically turn it into an upload though It doesn't work that way on halfchan.
I wonder how long it will take for the devs to realize that Aria's set isn't even bis for her
>>1501144 I haven't kept up with her kit and I skipped Ye so no reason to farm the new set just yet. What makes it a poor fit?
>>1501144 It's just a worse Phaethon's Melody. You get more than enough EX's to use on the other two teammates so the +25% ether damage is up all the time
Shushu's affinity resonium is fucked up, this was Intensity 8 and the last boss didn't last a minute. That's why I don't roll for mindscapes, she's already too strong.
>>1501085 >ZZZ official taobao store Doesn't seem like they ship to my country. Sad >got it from twitter like from one of these dropshipping ads?
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>>1501144 if it's not BiS right now then it's literally only because her intended stunner is not in the game yet and you don't have enough uptime on the stun portion of the set
you guys fucking suck at rollin 1d100 = 52
>>1501158 this is STILL above average by the by
>>1501152 Oops meant for >>1501146
>>1501144 >Polar metal tier signature set >ball with no AP for an abloom DPS
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>>1501161 Whatever helps you sleep at night 1d100 = 45
>>1501155 that sucks, maybe it will come to aliexpress one day, also it comes from zenless world, just some account that posts zzz stuff >>1501139 did you order thru taobao, i can help you troubleshoot through it
>>1501157 Phaethon's Melody 4pc gives 45 ap and 25% Ether damage while Aria's 4pc set gives 36 ap and 25% only when the enemy is stunned. The numbers are just straight up worse and having a dedicated stunner won't change that
>>1501152 >You get more than enough EX's to use on the other two teammates so the +25% ether damage is up all the time Paethon Melody is incredibly restrictive for an on-field agent.
>>1501122 I'm sure happy I lost yet another coin flip on him!
Let me show you scrubs how it's done. 1d100 = 30
>>1501173 No, it's fantasy village. I already contacted them.
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>>1501144 I feel it's made for a full angel team in mind, but the stunner you need doesn't come out till the patch after leaving it in a weird ass spot. Should have released the order different for this, also will still on V0 of the beta, so stuff changes so fucking much I wouldn't be surprised if her ball fully changed to something else. since stuff changes so much
>>1501179 Well it's a good thing I made it in the first 50.
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>>1501171 >>1501179 Lmao, Check EM 1d100 = 34
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>>1501175 the 45 AP on PM has 8 seconds of uptime and i don't think an aria/sunna/yuzuha team can EX on tempo frequently enough to keep 100% uptime on that buff. her actual dps rotation is like 80% basics though so she should in practice have 100% uptime on the 36 AP from her own set, which is likely going to be more consistent performance than 45 AP sometimes. i agree with the rest though but it's also V1 and if they want to force you to farm shining aria they can just change her kit to make you do it. they can just double the cost of her EX or something to make PM even worse.
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>>1501191 what are these pink circles on her shirt?
>>1501191 and very sexy
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>>1501191 Correct! Go away. I have a date with Nicole
>>1501182 ///G O N G\\\ will be an ether stunner that uses bangboo scaling for her anomaly buildup, will give an entire Weeping Gemini worth of AP, Anomaly DMG%, and will stun faster than Dialyn.
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>>1501182 What if Rokudo can insta-stun enemies for a very short duration?
>>1501191 PUT THE GONG ON THE SCREEN
.st just fucking died.
>>1501128 I see. Thank you anon. >>1500892 NA 1001528397 Rolling 1d100 = 22
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Explain to me why the basic attack enhancing disc is not good on S11. I am really struggling to build her.
>>1501224 its fine
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checking a full M0W1 showcase for aria/sunna/yuzuha it seems like there is enough energy around in the team to ex enough to keep 100% uptime on PM's 45 AP, so this is just a massive fuck-up by the devs, lmao short of completely reworking aria's kit so she somehow doesn't use energy i don't see how they can make her set work better for her than PM. they'd have to straight up change what shining aria does and they've never changed disc passives after already adding them to the live game
I'll win 1d20 = 18
It's over...
>>1501234 fuck 1d100 = 36
>>1501224 she has way too much DMG% saturation in her kit and from her BiS teammates already, so ATK and CD% buffs will boost her damage more. if all you have are bloom discs and they have good subs though you can just use them probably, i doubt the fall off is going to be so bad that it's worse than using woodpecker or inferno discs with mediocre subs
>>1501173 I really want one of these for my car but I don't want to receive a cheap bootleg that looks like shit. You find so many sites that just state they are an official store while I clearly do not believe them kek
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>>1501236 Even with a second try you cant achieve anything 1d100 = 8
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>>1501242 >>1501244 Quick to Nicolepost, let this be a lesson to you........
>>1501230 >Shining Aria will be the first disk set to get a potential unlock
i'm already in the guild but i'll roll anyway 1d100 = 57
>>1501247 But Nicole is GOOD These numbers agree! 1d100 = 24
1d100 = 72
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I will reclaim honor among Nicole posters 1d100 = 44
1d100 = 71
Ben, your time has come
>>1501230 For one, they could remove abloom from her kit and in general make it so she doesn't scale with AP this hard, then Shining Aria could be BiS because it gives less AP but more DMG%.
>>1501275 So make her weaker?
I haven't played my Qingyi in a while. It's been really fun using her in co-op.
>>1501277 >rebalance kit = make weaker Retard.
1d100 = 57
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ihqFBQE4t Do you think they'll update the tower?
>>1501275 it doesn't give more DMG% though it's 36 AP/25% DMG vs 45 AP/25% DMG, with arguably better uptime on the DMG% portion at least until GONG is in the game. SA is just a numerically worse set in every way. it feels like the devs forgot PM gives 45 AP since all they'd have to do is also make SA give 45 AP and it'd be on par at worst, arguably better since you don't have to think about the uptime at all
>>1501279 Anon you didn't add anything to make up for the abloom loss...
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practically it changes nothing since you are 99% going to be using SA/PM as your discs anyway, it just is a matter of which one is your 4pc vs your 2pc, but you should be farming or crafting both regardless. its just yet another example of devs forgor in this game
Which agents if any is Shining Aria BIS on? I have a fuck ton of them I haven't even looked through just because I don't know.
90+ = Yebibi canon wife 1d100 = 100
>>1501290 I see.
>anti-ethereal war relic robot designed for destruction >turns into a holographic cute girl and stomps you with her ass all while cute sparkles come out Yutane is peak, in a sense she is female billy who let go of his original design to pursue DMC guns and starlight knight poses.
>>1501290 I kneel.
>>1501289 nobody it is functionally just a worse version of phaethon's melody as it stands and just exists to brick your disc farming for shungus
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>>1501290 so fvcking trve...
>>1500892 1002100762 WITNESS ME! 1d100:
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>>1501290 this is how i know dawei is on this website, we cannot deviate from the shill agenda for your CCP mandated gf
FUCK HOW DOES THIS WORK?
>>1501303 newCHAD
>>1501303 retardGOD...
>>1501239 is it on taobao or some other sites?
>>1501306 I've been here since 4chin got hacked. I just didn't memorize all the little doodads of this place.
>>1501290 oh my god
>>1501283 Ok, I forgot you can use any different 2pc with PM whereas you're always gonna use its 2pc for the AM->AP conversion, in that case it is just numerically better...
>>1501290 I cannot argue with those digits
>>1500892 1d100 = 26 If this doesn't work I'm self destructing
Low digits It's over...
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>>1501310 I believe it is also on taobao but I got that image from somewhere else (Teyvatavern, one of the fake "official" stores). I could buy it on AliExpress but I haven't seen images of how it really looks and the shops that sell those always have reviews for other products where people say it looks different than from the image. Man why does Hoyo have to make it so hard to get official merch?
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Playing through the story with Zhao dressed like this...Dangerous...
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1d100 = 97 1000823219 I got an invite to 4, but no invite to 8th. Trying for it now. I do commissions and post them pretty regularly even for random outposts I've joined.
>>1501324 >97 with Joyous ID wot the fug :DD
how high can you roll can you do something like 1d1000000 = 291420
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>>1500892 >>1501324 Whoops forgot to include the reply I guess this means I'm fucked?
1d67 = 34
67d1 = 67
>>1501294 >anti-ethereal war relic robot designed for destruction this is unproven
>>1501328 /roll{999999d999999}
>>1501223 No prob Bob glad I could help. >>1501329 sorry bwo, see you in the overflow guild
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ok let's fucking go then CURRENT MIYABI POWER LEVEL 1d1000000 = 55474
>>1501337 >>1501341 /roll{999d100}
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>>1501343 Stop it.
>>1501333 I like rolling 1d100 = 73
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>>1501336 I'm gonna cry myself to sleep
>>1501338 @fairy, current Qingbibi power level? 1d1000000 = 176049
>>1501350 I didn't mean to reply to that, fuck
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>>1501338 >>1501353 oof... no wonder
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>>1501224 >Explain to me why the basic attack enhancing disc is not good on S11. Because her Core already gives her 70% DMG to her BAs. You're further saturating the only multiplier she already saturates. To visualize, her burst is around 55% BA, 45% non-BA MVs right now. This set only scales BAs. Let's say you only have it as your source of DMG% somehow, so your DMG% increase is 102.5% (Core, AA) for BAs and 32.5% (just AA) for everything else. The set will make your DMG% for BAs go up to 157.5% (both 2x and 4x effects together). <0.55 * 2.575 + 0.45 * 1.325 = 2.0125 <0.55 * 2.025 + 0.45 * 1.325 = 1.71 The entirety of the set (both 2x and 4x) taken in the most beneficial scenario (<C2 S11, absolutely no other source of DMG%) is ~17.7% DMG increase. In comparison, 10% DMG you'd get from 2xIM puts you at <0.55 * 2.125 + 0.45 * 1.425 = 1.81 For 28% CRIT Rate increase to match the increase from Dawn's Bloom you'd need ~56% CRIT DMG. All agents start at 50%. STR6/6 makes Soldier 11 start at 98%. 50% IM uptime at CRIT DMG% 98% is already within 3% of Dawn's Bloom absolute best scenario. You probably won't leave your Harin at 98% CRIT DMG. You will probably have more DMG% sources than literally none. Your real options are: Inferno Metal (generally the best), Puffer (if you're running with Dialyn), Hormone Punk (if you aren't running Brimstone and big flat ATK buffers), or Astral (with a source of QA like Astra). Woodpecker sucks dick.
What if this was my real roll. 1d100 = 96
>>1501347 nyo 2d10000000 = 12469230
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>>1501358 I'm sorry anon...
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>>1501353 >>1501356 miyabi buffs when
>>1501323 Link? Asking for a friend.
Okay last try 99d9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 = Infinity
>>1501314 No one else will ever use it right now, so who knows if it will be the first disk set ever buffed after being put it in since it won't effect anyone. I do find it odd they put disk sets in for agents before their full kit is done and tested though...
>>1501358 I would like to change my original roll >>1501223
>>1501362 Now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag83FEsaEsw >everytime Aria sits on you its an abloom
ya know aria was actually the first angel to have their name mentioned in game. I feel like that was never brought up in that whole name debate thing, people only mentioned that one lady from reverb arena that didn't even know who they were so her saying the wrong name even fits with her character
I hope they start cutting down on iframe shit or make more moves that ignore iframes, like the new boss’s parryable attack I don’t want the game to devolve to just mindlessly executing rotations with 100% iframes
>>1501239 ah.. are you navigating in the cn interface? if you do not know Chinese, what i do to search stuff up there is using their image search feature which is really good, the EN interface cucks you out from alot of goods, aliexpress is like taobao's gwelio place, alot of bootlegs just goes there with no regulations anyways most of the time fake "official" stores on taobao carries real stuff for cheaper but its abit risky, are there any reviews? if there are you can always read the reviews through google translate or look up the seller's other goods reviews to see if its real. I think since they are using the exact same image the official one is using its pretty safe but here is the link to the og zzz merch store https://e.tb.cn/h.7RzQjzu7k0N8wur?tk=tc4oUYDBhIp the only other fake bangboo fakes i've seen on taobao uses this box and they look melty so look out for it.. anyways if you'd like i an add you on taobao too if you'd like (promise i wont sell you to the ccp)
>>1501371 Anons mentioned this a ton though? Barely anyone brought up the reverb arena lady.
>>1501315 enjoy the whorse ass, anon
>>1501371 it got brought up a bunch, but mostly to disprove that the name changes happened cause of the Taiwan drama
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Is there a non 2 hour long video of how to do a YSG/Dialyn/Zhao rotation? I assume starting with Zhao you just EX Special, swap to YSG, do some basic attacks, EX special, swap to Dialyn, do her EX Special 3 times(get ult?) and swap to YSG with ult. Then do basic attackx4, ex specialx1, basic attackx3 then hold ex special? Something along that or just "RANDOM SHIT GO" would work too I guess what I'm trying to figure out is when to use Zhao so I don't miss her buffs to the rest of the team.
>>1501375 Thanks but taobao just doesn't ship to my country so I was looking at those other places like AliExpress or the stores you find on Google
Was it trying to send a beacon warning them to stay away
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>>1501363 It's on the mod discords. You could find it if you shopped around a bit. Donno if I can link it directly here... ...Huh. I can upload the rar directly, buuuut personally I'd be a bit squeamish about downloading a random file from some anon off an imageboard. Exercise ye own caution, I suppose.
>>1501387 She’s a hag now…
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>>1501369 >Changes roll >Turns out they were going lowest to highest >Eternal luck of the Nicole poaster
>>1501390 Oop, guess it ate the rar file. Nevermind, then.
I just saw the Aria gameplay vids and I'm honestly disappointed in the butt slam attacks. I was really hoping for something more "robot". I wonder why they didn't have her just use charged laser bow barrages. Maybe the cool ultrakill fanart gave me the wrong impressions, but I really hope they end up changing the animations before release.
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>>1501299 The part where he caught her at the end was too good. Though another interesting thing that I wanted to discuss is that Shushu's last suicide attempt was actually a final solution, since it would've actually killed the Creator; but perhaps not permanently. Also, some people mention that she falls for (You) over nothing but here is one of the first parts where her heart goes "kyun", to explain in anime terms.
>>1501397 They did entirely rework Sanby's animations during beta, so there is a chance. But reminder that the last minute animation rework caused her to release with a lot of holes in her iframes that took them weeks to patch and contributed a lot to the perception of her strength.
>>1501390 >mod discords all I really know of are ATF/Gamebanana and Loverslab I never really paid attention to people who only host mods on their own discord I guess
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What's the best Athena design? Zenless Zone Zero
>>1501379 >>1501376 maybe I just missed it then I remember mentions of the event being about her, but not the fact that her name was actually on it. people saying this was the event that introduced yutane to the game's universe, with no acknowledgement that she was already aria by this point. but I do remember people bringing up the reverb arena lady saying sariel as a gotcha to say that their names were changed last minute
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>>1501400 you can tell this is the part where shunger started ovulating
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>>1501407 I don't know this character but I'm gonna go with 2003
>>1501407 what the fuck happened...
>>1501418 She ate too much
>>1501407 2003 generally but her XI sprite is really good too, if I remember correctly
>>1501402 >They did entirely rework Sanby's animations during beta Yeah I remember that. Did people hate the beyblade spinning? I liked it tbh. Seeing what they've done with Seed and Aria makes me worry if we'll ever be allowed to have cool robot agents. Doesn't bode well for SBilly.
>>1501418 Think about the type of anime girls that were popular in 2009. Also XIII is just a fixed game/patch for XII so she didnt change much.
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>>1501407 2002 is the best, it has the cutest sprite too
>>1501066 before the bulk
>>1501404 The mod discords are the best places to get mods far as I know. They're compiled well, updated regularly and some folks in the chat will troubleshoot or even tweak mods for someone else. It's a neat bit of convenience if you mod heavily like I do.
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>>1501430 I liked the beyblade spinning too, but from what I remember CN said it made her feel too much like Haru. I don't mind Aria's animations other than how much of the gameplay is just spamming the butt slams. I want the bow to be used more.
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>>1501383 ah your best luck is anime stores that sell official merch that is priced much higher or aliexpress with products with the same image and good reviews
>>1501438 Speaking of mods, is there one that makes Shunko's sword case always visible in combat?
>>1501448 Not as far as I know.
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i love this girl
>>1499622 yesterday while rewatching this https://youtu.be/8ya9EhvcNsA i am a lone child, im not really that close to a family member as Sunny is with Mary, and i also never lost someone. but this entire game manages to make me bawl my eyes out everytime i rewatch this cutscene. its so good
>>1499622 Not that long ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXpGWhdwXuo I didn't even need to listen to the lyrics. The tears just started flowing out as I noticed all the details. Ah, I'm crying again. A grown ass man in his 30s, crying with his nose running over a little sheep's story. And I won't ever feel ashamed about it.
>>1501397 The animations are fine in isolation but disappointing for Aria in particular, the only part of the kit that feels like it fits her thematically are the glowstick but it's just the idol part, no relation to the robot. The groundpound could as easily have been Fufu slamming down Fu Wei or Yebibi slamming down her sword case or Nangong pogo jumping and spinning around her maces. >>1501448 All mods can do without speedrunning giving you an account ban is replace textures that are loaded inside your GPU. If the sword case is already there but just set to 0 transparency it may be possible to mod to be visible, if it despawns or gets moved somewhere there's nothing you can do.
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>>1501442 >>1501438 Wow yeah, this is actually really well put together. I was expecting a mess of exterior links or just jumbled up spider links. But this, this is good.
>>1499622 couple weeks ago when I finished girls last tour
>>1501397 Pray that the beta testers complain. Sanby got her animations changed so there's a non-zero chance that Aria can get her animations changed too
>>1501476 No it's super good and you can ask anyone there if you ave a problem with a mod and they will fix it right there for you. It's better organized then any site >>1501480 I can only hope. I want some robutt slam, but I really want more robot...
>>1501480 >Sanby got her animations ruined ftfy
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I just realized they actually added a bunch of new interknot posts this patch.
Thoughts on coop now that the event is finished? I like the foundation, but I’m not confident that they’ll actually fix a lot of the little things that are keeping the mode from being great, because the average player is retarded and they need to play to the lowest common denominator.
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>>1501495 Ellen has gotten more stacked than I remember
>>1501500 didn't let me pick more cunny to play with, 5/10
>>1501495 i hate ai so much it's unreal
>>1501500 It's good, but need to be built on more. I hope we get more of it
I just realised that you can sort of see GONG's eyebrows through her hair in this image
>>1501500 they could make zero gameplay related changes and I would probably still play it, so long as there's RNG rewards at the end (beyond resonia) reminds me of Mann vs Machine
>>1501492 >BA3 wasn't an awkward step back into launching the blades into a whiff >BA4 was BEYBLADE BEYBLADE LET IT RIP They fixed it with the buff making BA3 group enemies but fuck me we could've had it so much better. I don't get why they changed her entire string, it looks better than the replacement.
>>1501500 Friendly fire
>>1501519 I'm assuming beta testers complained about it for some reason
>>1501500 A good base but it's a long way from being good imo. I would like for less boss fights and more exploration gauntlets, and I would like them to be longer too. I think the little minigames like blaze the boulders weren't great but would have been nice to break up combat monotony, if the gauntlets were longer. Some issues I had: They need more agents, ideally all of them. They had the right idea giving the supports and stunners baked-in damage bonuses, but fuck off supports and aftershock agents would need some on-field gameplay fixes in addition to that. Chain attacks and chain ultimates should be on different buttons. I found it to be unclear what triggers a chain attack prompt. Sometimes enemies stopped playing animations (desync). The "Emote while spectating" items are a complete joke. What is supposed to be the point of these?
>>1501519 imagine my feeling when i discovered the animations changed after i pulled... beta string was so much more kino holy shit the throwing blade BA is so bad, buff made it good mechanically but it makes zero sense i want my spinning anby
>>1501501 Unedited btw
>>1500892 1001913454 dimension the dice 1d100 = 65
>>1501525 >>1501519 string too long, cant dodge > shorter string, still cant dodge > add string interruption dodge > shorter string, can dodge it do be like this sometime
>>1501527 CAs get triggered with anomaly application, stun, or when a teammate ults I think the former has to get removed, because you just get way too many free CAs with it
>>1501492 KILL ALL BETA TESTERS
>>1501527 >would like for less boss fights and more exploration gauntlets, I want this too, but boy people will not wait in random co-ops for you without running ahead
>>1501541 my thoughts if they change aria's ass slam
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You wouldn't fuck a rat
>>1501542 On my first run of the Pale stage, I got a team that stopped after every room and searched every corner before moving on We found all the clues in one run, felt pretty cool
>>1501541 Is it so hard for Hoyo to get people to actually test shit out? Zhao's M6 got 0 attention because beta testers were too obsessed with playing Ye
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>>1501528 Honestly it's like they were designing the character that would appeal the most to me >Anby, but S >Dual blades/Twinblade, my favorite weapons >Fighting style resembling my favorite character ever >From one of my favorite games ever And then they butchered her basics. Kill all beta testers.
>>1501547 That's not a rat
>>1499527 please add me to the list 1002602995
>They will erase the boundaries between "you" and "me," letting all independent consciousness flow back into the great stream of "Unity."
>>1501553 >flow back into the great stream of "Unity." >ZZZ runs in Unity engine <3.0 will start breaking the fourth wall and the characters will realize they're in a game Can't wait.
Did .moe get fucking nuked again?
>>1501542 >people will not wait in random co-ops for you without running ahead You're right, but I think theres a few ways they could fix this. Valuable rewards in alternate paths or chances to pick up more score (for more valuable rewards at the end) would work. Alternatively make it so that enemy encounters are actually dangerous to tackle solo (and dont teleport the group). The mode should have more desireable items to chase in its own meta progression. They could just do something similar to the disc grind, we all know how endlessly farmable that can be. >>1501538 >CAs get triggered with anomaly application, stun, or when a teammate ults Thanks for letting me know, but the problem is that it was not obvious inside the mode itself. That makes me think that they need to improve the readability or the tutorial. And yeah, there ended up being way too many chain attack prompts. I could hardly use my character's basic kit thanks to all the chain attack spam.
>>1501548 Yea you can get some and if you go in off the start this is true, but I find a lot of people will just run ahead.
>>1499527 already on the list still waiting for the NA outpost invite 1000029315
>>1501552 1d100 = 22 % chance of getting added to the club
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>>1501561 >Valuable rewards in alternate paths or chances to pick up more score (for more valuable rewards at the end) would work The average player wouldn't know nor care. >Alternatively make it so that enemy encounters are actually dangerous to tackle solo (and dont teleport the group) The average player would still rush ahead, get locked in solo, die, then ping spam the group for not following (he's the protagonist and everyone has to do what he says) and ragequit.
>>1501574 Weird bellybutton, completely unfuckable (would)
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>>1501564 please see >>1500892
>>1501576 Yeah that's fine, early levels/difficulties will have all that going on but later difficulties with gear score requirements will eventually filter out these "average players".
>>1501407 97 or 2002 i think is what I remember her as.
>>1501602 based
>>1500892 Lets hope UID:1002158982 1d100 = 12
>>1501588 You'd be surprised at how many people luckshit into teams that carry them. As someone who plays MH, which has an easy story and then postgame/endgame is one difficulty spike after another, 90% of players eventually stumble into a group of randoms that can beat the monster before the incompetent shitter eats all 3 deaths and fails the quest singlehandedly. That player will then get a big ego about beating a challenge (he didn't) then proceed to the next harder challenge, and the cycle repeats. I'll give the shitters something though, they may play like shit and refuse to improve, blaming the game and their teammates instead, but damn they're persistent.
>>1501616 This why you only do solo in MH unless it's your friends. You will always get some guy who eats all 3 carts
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>All those sub-50 dice rolls Looks like we have quite a few lucklets here. 1d100 = 24
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It said something about a key in Failume Heights at the antique shop, so I went there and saw the wooden cat stretching on display. Interacted with it and got an achievement, but no key. Is this something you gotta do after you complete the story or something?
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>>1501624 I got 97 my first try :)
I dont give a fuck about astra tell me the correct answer please
>>1500892 sigh... 1004345540 1d100 = 92
>>1501631 It's Family
>>1501631 Family
>>1501631 the heartbeat
>>1501631 Family 6d7 = 27
>>1501621 I have a policy for myself of always beating a monster solo before hopping into co-op, so I can know what I'm doing. Gotta make sure I'm not a burden and wasting 3 other people's time. >>1501628 After you beat the story 3 sidequests open up, completing them opens up their respective room.
>>1501631 I got this last time and it was heartbeat
>>1501635 >>1501636 NIGEEERS NIGEEERS NIGEEERS NIGEEERS NIGEEERS NIGEEERS
>>1501626 >>1501629 I never said I wasn't one of them
>>1501644 you didn't listen
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>>1501640 I figured as much, appreciate it regardless
>>1501644 You should've paid more attention during your cinema date with your chinese wife bwo.
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>>1501644 Sorry I thought it was Family because Astra was on the cover of it.
>>1501616 Yeah I've played all sorts of multiplayer games so I know how it goes. I've got no delusions about ZZZ co-op somehow becoming the one multiplayer game experience to finally fix those problems with random players. That said, hopefully ZZZ co-op can become at least as good as those other games.
>>1501631 I somehow keep getting the Astra questions wrong despite actually trying to pick the right answer. That stacy is not interesting enough.
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>>1501644 >He forgot.....
>>1501640 I also do solo first more so since I play CB and I want to know the timing for guard points to not eat shit when I'm with people
>>1500892 With how shit my gacha luck has been, surely I'll make up for it with this roll 1006948555 1d100 = 96
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>>1501682 you just wasted all your luck on this roll; enjoy losing all your 50/50s for the next 6 patches
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These are the women that Wise is canonically into Notice a recurring theme? what did dawei mean by this?
>>1501701 That reminds me I need to try that Pizza Tower ZZZ mod. Hell I need to actually finish Pizza Tower in general.
>>1501713 they're all chinese
>>1501713 Wise has yellow fever.
>>1501713 only one of them is any good
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>>1501713 glory to jade beauties glory to the CCP
Belle...
>>1501722 is belle chinese?
>>1501736 Belle isn’t a human
>>1501713 The ///G O N G\\\ is irresistible tbfdesu
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dawei is rewarding me for pulling YSG
>>1501713 >Notice a recurring theme? None of them have a penis
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>>1501732 Lemme guess, there is no uncensored version?
>>1501757 You don’t know that
>>1501757 proof?
>>1501713 that wise has a thing for women with Scarlet red eyes ?
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>>1501713 wise never slept with any of them, or any women in the game for that matter
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>>1501771 sweet lort
>>1501776 >or any women in the game for that matter you sure about that one?
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>>1501713 He’s quite literally me
>>1501774 i really like her design, i can only hope she comes back as a separate character
>>1501770 To be fair, women with red eyes are incredibly hot. Works well with pretty much any hair color, too.
>>1501713 Source for that ///GONG\\\?
>>1501805 zzztimelyangels on xitter
>>1501800 Same, I want more brown lolis.
>>1501290 RIGGED
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Hoshimi (no ass) Miyabi
>>1501840 wideyabi returns
>>1501842 was wideyabi waterkuma's original vision?
>>1501851 I don't think Miyabi was a waterkuma in the first place
>>1501853 He did draw this for section 6 so I'm pretty sure these three are his designs, not sure about yanagi.
>>1501853 I'm fairly sure Miyabi was Waterkuma her concept art looked like the old Piper concept art in the outlining
>>1501855 a faggier harumasa would've been good
>>1501859 a faggier harumasa would've done nothing
>>1501855 Kinda neat that Miyabi and Soukaku had their designs squared away from day one.
>>1501855 >>1501857 don't have it on me, but I remember there was a tweet with a bunch of zenless characters that one of the game's designers made (it wasn't waterkuma) presumably, they were all characters that he did designs for. Miyabi and Lycaon were two of them iirc
Mibibi was a-two
alice or jane might be able to do, hell maybe piper could do it if I had a better build but this season is going to end before that happens
>>1501879 >>1501871 huh neat, i can see the wideyabi already from that drawing.
>>1501879 thank you Senior loremaster
(I'm choosing to infer that Eous and the bangboo were also atwo's brainchildren based on the former's cameo)
>>1501867 >fufu backpack I need it
>>1501882 Shouldn't they be at the Miasmic Fiend? You know, the boss that takes increased anomaly damage.
>>1501894 I already did that
>>1501879 Remember: >Waterkuma 4th street >Atwo 8th street
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1501879 Remember: >Waterkuma 8th street >Atwo 8th street
So I noticed that Neko/Pulchra/Zhao has all three of their team passive trigger. How would that team work? I certainly don't expect it to be good but I've been using Lucy as my third on that team and it doesn't feel like she does much. Yuzuha helps with Assault procs but they don't have all 3 passive active that way.
An ocean died for this.
>>1500808 ///We\\\ love blonde hags >>1500821 Just copy S11's buffs. BA5 (well EBA4 for Zhu) that dumps multiple bullets, auto-dodge while attacking, dodge offset, chain and ult goes directly to EBA3. Maybe add in quick assist to that last bit, so she could do Nicole EX -> EBA3 instead of the EBA1 -> EBA2 -> EBA3 and swap really fast to Nicole that you do now. >>1501397 I hope they add an EBA4 or replace her EBA3 during install with a more powerful attack that uses her bow. Not just because the bow is under-used in combat, but also because she needs a reason to save her resources for stun. No reason to trade field time with a stunner when her damage in stun isn't much different from out of stun, she'd need some kind of burst.
>>1501928 shifu fell on hard times after her generational fumble...
>>1501902 I'd expect Zhao to work better than Lucy, specially if you have her ball.
>>1501935 That I do not have, I threw a few 10 rolls at that banner but I wanna save as much Poly as I can for Sunna and Aria. All I have for Zhao is A and B rank trash, kinda fucked up how literally none of the Defense balls are good.
>>1501902 I'd expect Zhao to work worse than Lucy, specially if you have her ball.
>>1501932 time to add the forecasters as another idol group to that pic. They've been slowly adding other idols and lore to the game, i wonder if all of them is gonna be relevant to the main story line or something.
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>>1501948 They're all very relevant, because they're going to be having sex with me.
>>1501948 devil lolis will be relevant for me
>>1501948 They're all very relevant, because they're going to be cucking 0c5346.
>>1501948 I remember Reverb Arena being a place where bands occasionally fought. As in, threw hands. The rival idol group looks like they could be NPCs, though.
>>1501948 They're committing to the idea of Chinese New Year having music factions so they need to print out more teasers to keep some suspense.
>>1501945 Honestly it's a bit hard to tell because Zhao has a higher ATK buff and a DMG% buff, but Lucy gives you access to Kaboom and a pretty consistent Moonlight Lullaby uptime (she's also easy to build so you can lean on pseudo-DPS builds more easily). A practical test would be nice, but I don't have Neko.
>>1501945 *Chinatsu
Where the hags at man
>>1501966 Lolibaba in 2.7
>>1501959 Honestly that whole team isn't very well built to begin with. I should hit the disc mines for it and try to optimize as much as possible.
>>1499645 he writes these but i just cant prove it
>>1500892 1d100 = 5 ey bozz 1002602995
>>1501948 is there a reason the font for them is different?
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>>1501902 I just tried it against jester and it worked fine, a lot of Pulchra dodge countering to stun the robots quickly and quick assisting to Neko constantly was fun. Though, my results might be skewed since my Pulchra disks are almost perfect, Neko is M3W2 and Zhao is M2W1
>>1501966 The Krampus executioner sounds like a professional prostate examiner.
>>1501902 zhao is also nekomata's best teammate in DA, pulchra's more of the odd one out
>>1500534 why did they make this team more boring to play? At least with Dailyn you still had to optimize your positive review and how you spent it but this is just Ex then fuck off back to YSG
>>1500892 1d100 = 22 1000029315:UID hopefully i get in
>>1501859 dude straight up looked like astolfo at some point in his design iterationd though really the whole design of HSO was supposed to be that of a student council, but they decided against it and changed some aspects here and there to make it less obvious, and then added yanagi later on
>>1500892 a few more people rolled here btw >>1502949
>>1501851 >>1501871 pretty sure she is a waterkuma deisign? these concepts looks very waterkuma at least >>1501879 the post just says happy first anni for zzz, could just be fanart
>>1503738 ah nvm i'm a baka he is the second head designer, pretty neat


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