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/wizg/ - Wizardry Variants Daphne General Anonymous 04/16/2025 (Wed) 05:26:53 Id: a7cf12 No. 1604
Wizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379740/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.drecom.wizardry.daphne Current Events: Fighter Proving Grounds Banner 2025/4/3〜2025/4/30 Arboris, Lord of the Deep Forest FREE 800 Gems of Org (one time) + 50 per week: store.wizardry.info A new Abyss, the Guarda Fortress, has been added Official wiki: https://wizardry.wiki.gg/wiki/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne General Information: https://rentry.org/x5xxitrz Tavern/Camp choices: https://rentry.org/2gngvv2n JP Fanguide: https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/ Friend Code: https://rentry.org/SavoryRisk Tier Template: https://tiermaker.com/create/wizardry-variants-daphne-17631789 Thread Template: https://rentry.org/DaphneTemplate Previous thread: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/521770323/
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Gwos!
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>>1627 server risk savored
I slacked the event and was going to ask wizg for advice but even with advice it's too late now so I'm not going to bother. The rewards aren't that good anyway.
>>1893 Guarda eats up all my time and my fighters are always busy on dispatches
>>1893 kek, I'm just going to take it easy and see what things are like after they rebalance everything
>>1915 I've barely started it (and got spoiled by the OP). The anti-instant death helmets are not doing a good job of preventing Eulalia from instantly dying to the undead knight's attacks, leaving my MC permanently paralyzed until I die trying to revive her. At this point I think I might need to go back and get the luck unlocks for the skill tree since it sounds like they have a lot of buffs to revival.
>>1996 The helms suck. The only good rewards are the skill books and money/ores.
>>2764 Obviously their stats are trash but I would have expected them to do the one job they exist for, at least some of the time. Is it 15% like elemental gear? What about the confusion shield from the pixie event?
>>2797 We don't have any data on it, it's probably really low though. I didn't bother taking the pixie shields with me to the doll fight so I can't comment on those.(the charm is the real killer there anyway)
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Good day, sirs!
Damn its rough but its something
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>>4524 >t.
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We're so back, gwos!
we back?
Guessing the OP links are worthless stuff from week 1 right? Doing priest mausoleum to get Marianne ahead of the nerf compensation and checked the map and I can assure you "Note : Every mausoleum has the same type of map" is not true, the priest map is different from the thief map shown. The wiki also seems like a generic wiki about the franchise and not at all useful for Daphne. Just look at the Events page: https://wizardry.wiki.gg/wiki/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/Events/
>>5790 Yes that one is very outdated and ran by reddit so no wonder its so shit. https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/ Is well maintained and has up to date info. So next thread wherever it happens should just list this one instead.
>>5790 Pretty sure every mausoleum map layout is the same, but it gets greyed out every time you enter. The marianne compensation is already over, they only counted the ones you used up to the point of the announcement. And every item that has resistances to status are a meme and might not even work to begin with. and monster resistances gear are currently inversed for players.
>Hooded little girl on a broom Gomen Garbage I'm gonna have to go all out...
Also i hate this website, and it feels like i'm posting on an even darker alley, with somehow more drug addicts per square meter.
>>5909 I'm really confused. I take the same route every single time when doing crucible, and I tried to do the same just now, and I could swear I was blocked off from the usual path and forced to fight the very first monster in the first room. But now on my second run it seems normal? I'm probably just retarded. As for Marianne, that's not what the text said, though functionally for my case it makes no difference. You're right that it's as of the announcement, but it's supposed to be for every copy you've obtained. Guess I'm just punished for slacking mausoleum, unless they only count gacha ones or something.
>>6030 If you goof around at the start, the enemy that patrols the first room can just walk towards the entrance and touch you The marianne refunds might be: Every one you ever gotten, every one you used, every one you used for inherits, who knows, drecom can't into england very goog, wait and see type of situation, one thing is for sure, it was over when the announcement went live
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>>5865 rentryanon here, took my time completing Another Eden Part 3, turns out everyone(?) moved here. For the baker, use this template for the next thread, https://rentry.org/WizDaphneTemplate, pass is savortherisk (i don't know the pass for the prev.template), changed the EN wiki to fasterthoughts, you can add anything else you felt missing.
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Gwos I missed you, hope you're still enjoying your adventures!
What are our hopes and expectations for post-maint anni celebrations? I'd like some extra badges since I wasted 7 on Gerulf yesterday just to have a third fighter. I doubt I'll ever use him again because he's not a female elf.
I missed you all, skelies.
>>7622 just hope we get those inheritance changes, I'm tired of holding
>>7622 Hopefully the new guarda area is as good a farming spot as boat 2, and the inheritance changes.
>>8884 >>9110 Tbh I took them for granted, I was thinking more of stuff like a "magfes" if you've played Granblue at all. Basically a shitton of buffs to various stuff all at once. Though I guess in this game it'd be equivalent to one of those purchasable weekly/monthly passes they sell so maybe not.
>>9236 I don't know what you are referring to, but in this shitshow there is no buffs, only nerfs, mostly shadow nerfs.
Hello /wizvag/
i just ranked up to lvl 40 do i need to grind out old castle ruins now that its available or can i wait until later
>>13006 I'm 60 and haven't touched it
>>13006 Its a limited time ranking event, its not up right now.
Lana best girl.
>>15067 milk covered hands typed this
Soon the promised update
Btw I've been reading the old archived threads as I progress through the game. Is human priest anon still alive?
hello gwos
Missed you bwos, and here I thought I would be savoring the bugs after today's maint alone.
Savoring with the gwos. Any dataminers, we got downloads
>>18222 game doesnt have dataminers, or they keep it to themselves
>>18626 We got some people posting datamines on the discord... but they are selective of what they post
Selector banner and events after maint.
Post your Mariannes
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>>19598 +100 coins in mail too, dev listened.
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>knigger defense previously was affected by alice >no nerfed Oh, wow I didn't even realize that. Kniggers just can't catch a break.
>>19598 I got 210, so... 21 copies of any general adventurer, can't decide if I'll just max someone I have at 60 like Flut, Chloe or Kiriha or maybe go for Amelia so I have a second thief who's actually good at disarming traps
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>Drake, where's the Adventurer's guild?
>>20027 You too huh? At least other towns still work for me.
>>20035 Yeah the other two work. Suppose it ain't a Daphne update without them breaking something on the PC client.
>>20000 I also got 210 frags. Probably gonna go for a pile of Amelias myself. SURELY in 21 copies I'll finally get a decent one.
Is she new? She gives Evasion bondmate.
>redispatch button added Best update
>>20219 Oh thank god
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>>20219 Devs listened?!
>>20027 Used the Cursed Wheel to jump the plot back to Trade Waterway which seemed to have fixed it. Returning to the fortress via the wheel as well didn't recreate the bug. So if anyone needs it fixed I guess this is the method?
>>20429 Nevermind. Managed to recreate the bug by accepting the Princesses mid fortress request. Seemingly that's the thing bugging it.
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How much dupes of a character I need to max out the discipline?
>>20530 apparently like 30 or 35
The gold ore quest starts on Fortress 3rd floor btw, also bring Marianne for extra gold.
>Fps inheritance is from elda >Sneak attack inheritance is from milana Seems kinda strange to give such strong skills to regular units
Did I read that right that alice skill now actually apply to all active skills? Is Savia coin rising up because of it?
>>20715 >0.15% You are more likely to roll legendary than rare Elda, lol.
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For the gold urgent Bring your marianne for MONEY
You can get rare inheritance from mausoleum bones! There 10% chance for that.
>>21119 >farmed up all my bones last night before the patch >not retroactive nyo...
>>19598 Only 40, feels bad being a steam newcutie
>>21320 I've got those bones before update.
>>20600 What the fuck I had to nuke my party's mental to get a Marianne from the mausoleum to do the quest (I used all four of mine getting Alice level 3 poison removal) and now I have to bring them and a level 1 Marianne to Guarda floor 3? This might be too much risk for me to savor. >>21049 Okay yeah I just straight up can't do this except maybe the bottom left by cursed wheeling to the fountain.
>Wake up >Let's see what kinds of fresh hell has drecom unleashed >15 pages of stuff >You now need to spend even more tags to get the new inherits Thanks for the added RNG and costs on inherits, and nerfing the knights i guess
>>21556 you only need MC at certain grade levels to unlock the new skills, not extra tags
>>21530 The gold monsters respawn everytime you leave so you don't have to fight through the entire map, I just teleport to 3rd floor harken, fight the lower left one >>21049 and exit.
>Treasure chests that shoud reappear over time do not appear Surely daily bone is back Also, did they remove status weapons applying the status on skills (again) or they put it back?
>>21686 I don't have the harken, the boss murders me. I could cursed wheel to the fountain but turns out it's not necessary since I can just ignore the game telling me to go to Guarda and do it here.
>>21707 wow maybe I should have check out the ship first. Also the cap is 60k I think, Anna says I got the highest reward when I turn it in.
>>21789 I got 48k so Guarda is still better.
I did 44 rolls for Abenis, what do I buy with the pity stuff?
I thought I lost you forever, until I remembered theres 2 rentry links
I haven't played in 2 weeks, the class changeback things are new right?
>>21876 All the skill books in Abenis shop are kinda meh so the bones imo, but depends if you want to spend 16 more rolls for the legendary. That's 16 more rolls for the Witch that's Coming Soon™.
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I bought a bunch of Vivianas to test this but I seem to be missing something >Her extra rare inherit is Surety passive buff >But there's also a "Special Inherit" icon right beside Viviana with the usual "Hide" inherit
>>22118 It's probably visual bug, I had same with my Daniel.
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I don't understand where I have to go for the gold event Also the event is only for today? >>22028 First time seeing them. Added with today's update.
>>22218 B4 for Abyss 1 or Better yet Shit Lower Deck 1 for Abyss 2
I wonder how good is poison now, tempted to go all in milana, but if it's shit i might just discipline my ninja mans.
>>22235 >Shit ship*
I'm surprised the fire dragon is in the EX category, is it never going to be reused in future content then? Seems like a waste.
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>Not saving all your fragments for the future 4* Pixie character lmao
>open compendium >model viewer >spin to the back >see clothes clipping They forgot people could see the back now, huh
So how much Gold can you get from this event? I did all the thieves in one area and it rewarded me 48k. Was there supposed to be more thieves in other areas?
For me, the gold ore quest was in grand legion floor 3.
>>22665 A redditor got 20k bonus gold out of it, doing it in the beginner abyss I got 36k from doing it in the water way. It might depend on how far you are in the game. Probably, doing the one at the Guarda fortress will result in more money rewards.
>>22665 I got 60k from doing it at Guarda 3rd floor.
>>22700 >>22721 I see. I did it on the ship to try it out and the values match. Will try to do it on Guarda next. Does the floor you do it on have some impact on the reward I wonder.
What do the filled out dots over the entry in the compendium mean? Also, it's disheartening to see that big slimes have no elemental weaknesses. Those slimy shits take way too long to kill for practically no rewards at level 40.
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>>22665 got 48k from guarda 3rd floor. i think you got 60k if you bring marianne? also, you can sign 4 kind of contract from new area from guarda. tried the exp one, seems like it give exp x2? only mc can use it. and the mp one give you +145 mp, i don't test the sp and damage dealt one, maybe someone else can check.
>>22820 Oh the new area is already in the game? Where is it? I didn't see any warning about it ingame so I thought it would be implemented in a future update
>marianne literally goes "gimme gimme money!" kek that's cute
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>>22845 need to accept request from guarda's guild, then go to zone 10, zone 8, library area in zone 10, and last go to the tunnel. the new area is unlocked after that, by going down the newly created hole inside the tunnel.
>>22915 Thats alot of mana
>>22820 >+145 mana but you need to paypig the revives can you just cancel them at any point?
>>22953 that's the effect from this contract >>22820, if yek die the fortitude stays at 0, and i don't know if i can terminate the contract when she's dead >>23032, should i even try it? lmao. and you can fight the contract giver, but i guess it's more like superboss at this point.
Whats a lot of gold...
>>23081 >>22820 So MC mage is now meta? 332 Mana + "technically" farmable Way of the Mage and Way of the Priest, as well as "Mage/Priest Spell Expertise" from Well of Mind virtually results in Unlimited magic.
Am I tripping or did the max resolution of the Steam version get increased? >>23681 Magic is still worse for single target damage and MC isn't better than other mages Also this contract rapes your max HP and forces you to pay gems for revives, it seems rather pointless unless you want bigger MP pools for trivial farming runs
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>>19598 Not sure what to do with these.
>>23941 You can exchange them at the jeweler for more adventurers and other stuff.
I guess we should expect these to appear in weekly shop now, right?
14 STR on Abenius means she's IV'd, right? She should only have +3 from Fighter if I'm reading the chart correctly.
Tempted to use all the coins on Chloe... Make a super disciplined kitty... fuck that's hot...
>>24093 Sounds good. I personally got 5 gandolfos and happened to hit 2 WotW. Sitting on ny other 130 coins
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Pretty cool that this guys dialogue is fully voiced, the contracts seem like a terrible idea though, except maybe the exp one if you're doing something very safe The available ones are: >Increase attack power in exchange for greater damage taken to everyone in the same row and even bigger increase to the contract taker >Increased SP in exchange for decreased max HP for everyone in the same row >same thing but for increased MP >all contracts also add a fixed/separate chance of getting ambushed oh and also characters immediately go to 0 Fortitude with no way of regenerating it while under the effect of any contract So all in all seems totally pointless
>>25114 The EXP one might be useful for macrochads if the forced ambush chance doesn't happen during scripted fights like during the EXP grinding request at the pier. Otherwise yeah they all look like hot trash.
>>25114 I could see it if completing the contract removed the downside but that seems unusable for anything outside of "repel enemy forces" farm or something like that.
>>25363 I don't see any "completion condition" or anything, it just seems like something you activate and can then deactivate again
>>25114 MP for backrow HP down seems like an okay deal
>>25563 In exchange for immediately going to 0 Fort? Really only in content that has 0 threat on them
On hit effects are really back
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Where the FUCK do the goblin for the goblin coun request spawn? And how do you get the key for the locked room on next floor?
I just started rerolling. Got the dark elf, gerulf and yekaterina from the gacha. Do I keep this or reroll again until I got the limited rate up girl?
>>26236 arborias and yeka are great, I'd keep.
>>26236 Id go for arboris yekat/alice abenis. And pick whichever of the middle 2 i didnt get
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So besides Marianne who else has thing for gold? Jean and Bibiana? I would like to see more character reactions from the current event >>26236 Yeka and Gerulf you can get from the standard bones or even the limited ones of other characters Yeka is great to have early to mid game (she's still good later just not amazing) while Gerulf is good enough for a Fighter I like Abe so I would recommend you trying to get her Don't have Arboris so I have no opinion on him
>>26236 benis isn't anything too special, get her if you like her but not worth rerolling over. elf and yeka are great, Gerulf coin I don't know
if i buy the mission pass I'll get a total of 4 class changes to buy I already have Lana's to use for fighter so I was considering buying the class changes for yek, alice, adam I have never been graced by the presence of a Debra bone so what would be a good 4th to pick up also, do legendary char class changes ever show up in weekly exchange?
>>26755 They do show up in the weekly just like every other characters, I got my Yeka priest book from it.
Hopefully we get a farmable way to obtain these class change requests things, even if it is a limited amount by time. I was hoping it would be here with this update already, but them putting them in paid packs instead doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
It took me like 10 hits to land one poison(lvl1), on the necromancer, and it hits for 22/turn It's 22 times better than old poison :)
>>27435 Wasn't it always 1% of max health?
fuck i missed this entire questline at the start. am i bricked?
>>27551 In this land of risk savouring, bricking because of missing out on quests is not one of them
>>27551 If you're on your first playthrough of the Abyss don't worry about it, it's scripted that you won't do everything correctly
i had to uninstall after being burned out from the collab event. I saw they made a post about hearing our feedback. Are they making events completable by normal people or should I just wait to come back?
>>27468 It was (fixed dmg - res), which almost always resulted in 1 dmg, who tf knows if they changed to % now or if they just upped the fixed dmg. I'm trying to test in other enemies but this shit doesn't hit
>>27655 The Fighter Event basically was just a check if you have 3 built fighters, if you did you could clear it pretty quickly, if you did not, you were just shit out of luck (after they fixed an exploit that let you avoid any fights) But they'll probably keep doing events like the collab to appeal to JP grindgods, its your own issue if you feel compelled to completely clear that shop out, just getting the rare/worthwhile stuff wasn't that much of a grind
>>27671 Try it on a sentryclops
>>27655 nips will always have their grind events
how do you clear the weekly gold ore quest?
>>27698 >(after they fixed an exploit that let you avoid any fights) Just curious, what was it? I only managed to clear up to intermediate, which was pretty easy for me with my two level 60 fighters + 60 MC, I would just FPS with everyone repeatedly and it would die in a few turns, but the jump to clearing the advanced one was fucking massive. I managed to get to the vampire once by using the doors strategically to avoid fights, since every fucking fight in advanced was a boss encounter pretty much, but I couldn't do anything to that piece of shit boss. I even brought some def down scrolls and shared power. I am guessing higher level of discipline and high level skills were just required, and I didn't have those.
>>27699 Didn't manage to land one on cyc yet, but got a hit on pic rel Seems like they just juiced the base dmg
>>27855 >weekly It's weekly? FUCK, I NEED GOLD go to abyss 3 floor 3, bring marianne with you. kill the stationary FOE in the south. repeat twice more
>>27855 That just means that you can do it every day for a week.
>>27894 You'd open the event tab at the same time you took a step into the boss, which would have you phase through him, allowing you to just walk through the door and talk to the master.
>>27894 you could phase through enemies by quickly opening the event menue as you stepped in to them so you could bypass every enemy encounter, including the final boss patched within a day
>>27894 you pretty much just needed a third fighter with FPS the crux was doing enough damage in the window between his defense buff running out and him starting to spam the instakill bats and 3 FPS usually guaranteed that even with mediocre gear (unless you got unlucky and missed on some of the hits)
Finally got to the gambling fight Holyfuck how the fuck do you beat this shit. I thought i was safe with 180 Eva on my frontline. They still get hit. What kind of bullshit is that.
>>27918 its daily, i did it before and after reset
Can cover trigger counterattack? I am considering the biggest brick and go all in cover 7 Savia but if cover happens, can you counter attack?
>>28000 I fisted them with neutral adventure man, get cure crit poison potions, I gave dp scroll to my caster because they do like 400 damage per scroll and a knight spamming knights defense, kill right column first then left, leave knight for last.
Is Philip's Presence of the Mind skill only applicable to him?
Landed one on the scorp lady, and since she has very high res it was a good test to see if they changed the formula to %, and they did not.
You can fight the god of death apparently lol https://youtu.be/IBv32-tNrSk
Do the ossuary adventurers only have 5 bp? Because both the adventurers I took from there only had that much. Was I just unlucky?
>>29604 Pretty sure it's still random, the ones I pulled had different amounts of BP
>>29604 I pulled one and got a 7.
anyone putting abe skill on MA? A pre-emptive sounds great to have
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Some giga whale on the fasterthoughts Discord has already killed the God of Death
So what's the new Guarda stuff all about? Is it hard?
gwos this update is too overwhelming... my small brain can't understand what is going on... help bwos....
>>30294 whats it do
>>30575 Increased Dark and Instakill resistance, probably random rarity and stars, the guy got 3* blue with EVA and ASPD
>>30328 >>30382 There's a new request in Guarda that unlocks a new floor that has lots of difficult enemies. There's also two minibosses in it that I imagine will filter a lot of people. If you get to the end, you unlock an NPC that offers you shitty contracts that ruin your account in exchange for very minimal gains. Maybe the devs will change the contracts or people will figure out how to abuse them, but for now the update's content is kind of a dud and not worth bothering with.
Now for mask to get skillbooks for flutterdream lv 3
>>30594 what a lucker
BOTH ABE AND MASK CAN PROC FDS dmg was about 1/3 of a normal attack but both blind debuffs stacked
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>>21049 help for the gold urgent >red circle has no stationnary enemy; there was a note on the ground and that's it >purple circle is not accessible; can not find the underground entrance do I need to kill the GWO of Garuda to unlock those two?
>>31472 nevermind I didnt know you could repeat it >>21686
I have two options on my 14x mariane coin, Discipline my milana and maintain the same team, or swap berka and get kiriha on her place ( with 3 extra copies on the bag ) Watchu think fags
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>>1604 You're here! I found you! At least 40 of you. Lots of new stuff in this update. I really missed these threads with the death of 4chan.
>>5944 I bet she is cute.
>>31422 I wanted to give FDS to my player-character. But with no option to disable skills I didn't dare to. I really wish they allowed us to disable skills.
>>31764 did you kill the doll? i have almost the same team as you
>>32291 she doesn't look that cute
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>>32249 We're all gonna make it.
>>32411 redbeard bros, don't look
>>32357 Yeah, it was a complete shitshow but i did, here's a pic of me ressurecting alice with the camera stuck under the doll dress.
>First Guarda GWO fight >Ran out of mp & sp >Had to resort to basic attack spam >Doing literal single digits >Only won because the GWO did it's ATK up DEF down ability and pushed those single digits to just over 100 Sweating balls there, probably the most tense fight I had in this game.
Does anyone know what's the level breakpoint for Agora's turn increase? I know you get 1 extra turn at level 1, when do you get 2 turns if is inherited by someone else? Looking through nips wiki and they say is 2 turns extra at level 3 but I can't tell if is for alice or for someone else
>>32687 I remember one anon saying that it's 1-3.. for alice, and 1-5 for everybody else.
bag secured
>>31764 so.. either D5 milana or D6 kiriha. With more discipline, Milana will have high aspd and more stat that will make her a good chest opener (and you can get some sneak attack inherit skill from dupe if you're lucky), Kiriha if you need frontliner that has potential to waste enemy turn thanks to his high evasion from discipline, and can deal some good damage using covert strike, the drawback is high exp req, and need to invest quite a bit to gear him up, you'll want some atk/eva blessing on your gear. >>32687 1-3-5-7 for alice, 1-5 if inherited
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>I'll just put Debra in dispatch where she can't do any harm--ACK!!
>>32727 >>32743 Thanks bros, well I guess I am sticking with level 1 for the foreseeable future. Still 2 turns of blackbeast feint is pretty sweet already.
>>32743 I don't really have the gear for kiriha, mostly one decent dagger, honestly my whole team has shit gear so that's a everyone's problem i'm still fixing, as for xp he's already with 5m on the bank just waiting for the opportunity. I do like the big titty berka, but damn for as far i'm using her she might as well be a generic gimped fighter. I'm reluctant to invest more on milana due to the looming feeling that i might swap the mc to the backline in the future and open chests with him.
>>32854 like the other said, berkanan is quite good if you're able to get heavy attack 3 for her, but yeah not having full power strike in her skillset sucks. at least her unique skill stacks with the other def down, so you can like stack armor break, morlis,and true word of fire for 3-stack of def down. the ossuary is permanent anyway, so you can take time thinking of who do you want to get.
blew 100 rolls on Benis, got 3 copies, 7BP no boon, 7BP luck boon, 6BP dex boon. Is luck boon benis with skill inherit lv3 the way to go?
>>33110 don't rush into FDS when lv1 Discipline is +2 for most stats, +4 for bonus stats, and +10 hp +~3 MP/SP You can use scrolls for FDS
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>>33110 I think Discipline and Skill Inheritance are better than skill leveling to be honest You can always use Skill Books for that while Discipline and Inheritance can only be done with dupes
>>33135 >>33151 Oh shit I actually have 4 benis, 8bp no boon is the last one. Luck boon 7BP or 8 BP no boon? Scrolls for FDS and dupes to disc sound less dumb than smashing them on skill inherit. Nips say Lv3 FDS to get a normal hit worth of damage, is it that important? Also is she even worth inheriting to other characters/mc when the skill activation drops to 30%?
Way of the Warrior on Rinne, thoughts?
>>33230 Boon will always be better than no boon by the end of the day Check their Fortitude
>thought all this time eulalia taking 50k damage was stuff instant deathing her >actually it was just her paladin armor making her take 250* more damage than she's supposed to man no wonder i've been hardstuck floor 3
>>32435 give me tips please, i want to kill it at level 50 too
>>33537 1. Mental unity into Tzalik 2. Everyone has a fuck ton of sedation scrolls on their inventory, except alice, who has only DP scrolls 3. Pray The MC is the only one with HS 3, and out of 8 that i threw, only ONE hit the fuckin doll. If she didn't die at the turn i killed it, i was absolutely going to eat shit.
>>33679 did you debuff the doll?
>>33815 Berka was keeping her with perma batilgref, but honestly it did nothing, she always had 2 turns, and was nigh immune to physical attacks.
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>newly acquired unregistered leggos now will get locked automatically >if you want to inherit their skill, you need to register them and then unlock Any way to make it less cumbersome? I want a way to add note on copies so I can tell them apart...
>>34594 Perhaps you can manipulate the condition for the autolocking at the cog screen. They do have a new adventurer autolock function there, after all.
>>33537 You want the legit way or the I am a filthy degenerate and I just want to beat it no matter who shitty the method is. nta btw
glad i checked the rentry. hi gwos
>>32249 Savor the risk gwo
How do you make a glossary of all the equipment in the game and not include their special effects, just base stats
I think I missed a paradigm shift in the culture, I know "bwo" but what does "gwo" demean?
>>39825 In the wizardry variants daphne context, gwo stands for greater warped ones, the bosses of the abysses like Helmut and other such beings.
wew
>>39825 Just a pun on bwo with the game gwo. Loosen up
My character froze in front of a chest and i can't move now. Harken doesnt fix The Forced Recovery fixed it Now it happened again and i can't use Forced Recovery to get out of it man, fucking hell dude these fucking bugs
>>33465 >hardstuck floor 3 Not any more, but at what cost?
I am trying to use the class change thing to figure out what initial stats my alice had, I took all the gear off her but it still shows stats that make no sense, what am I missing?
>>40451 Passing grade exams increases all your stats by one iirc and you also have to factor in the BPs you distributed
>>40457 Ohh so since shes level 40 that would be -2 on everything? The only bond she has gives her status resist but thats good to know thank u
Berkachan...
I am building arboris but he feels a lil shit so far, how do I build him properly? light armor and dagger in the frontrow?
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I missed you guys so much gwos..
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>>40580 What's your level? Thieves can be in the frontrow after lvl30-40 since they can have enough evasion to not get hit constantly Before that it's too risky
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I believe the best Thief to open up chests is actually a REGULAR(non legendary) ELF Thief(Female for bonus IQ) There is only 2 at the moment(One of them requiring a class change book) Even if you will somehow get an IQ boon + 10 points Arboris and put all 10 points into INT, he'll still fall off the moment you get enough Amelias for Disciplinemaxxing. That said I still advice getting a LUCK boon Amelia AND dumping all into LUCK for better Eva and Surety
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>>40731 >Amelia Milana*
>>40621 highest chars are 40 arboris is 20 rn
>>40731 does discipline really stack stats that hard? Im fairly new (end of abyss 2) so I havent used discipline yet.
>>40731 luck affects surety?
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>>40879 Not really at first but you will notice the hp difference after the third or fourth discipline level It's why rare adventurers will inevitability be the best characters to have
So is trap detection way more important than trap disarm since the latter is just a QTE skill check and even the hard ones are doable?
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>just a QTE skill check and even the hard ones are doable
>>40998 I mean the hardest one I did was a mimic I dunno if they get like way way WAY worse than that
>>40923 Its easier to say what Luck doesn affect: >Action Speed >Attack and Magical Attack >Flat stats like HP, MP, SP, Def Everything that makes the game throw a "dice" is affected by Luck somehow. Still. On non Thieves and Ninjas you should SPDmax. Especially on casters.
>>40967 If you are good enough to hit QTEs that are only a couple of pixels wide, you might as well drop thieves entirely since mages can have high trap detection due to their IQ.
Got Luck IV Abenis Any point in maxing more Luck or just go in on Str and Spd.
>>41093 Funnily enough! Milana is the best mage to open up chests as well!
How much HP does this thing have? I am doing the request in helmuts area, not sure if its worth banging my head into this wall
>>41461 Impossible to silence him so you need Magical Barrier. If you don't have Iarumas then just wait until lvl 40.
Unrelated but does this site have an 4chanX equivalent? Quoted posts somehow only open one level deep and unable to trace backward?
>>41197 Luck is kinda of a meme build Str is a safer investment
>>41461 Somewhere close to the 30k ballpark as I recall. Lowest I managed to do it is with level 37s.
>>41197 Since now we can inherit Way of the Knight from Alex, Luck has 1 more thing going for it on Abenis. Though unless you plan to invest heavily into Follow-up attack it's still sort-of a meme build.
The ninja gear is real
>>34641 gwo..I glitched the Proving Grounds to get the ring and I felt proud of course I want to beat it no matter what!
>>41494 I am level 40 but no iarumas, do I just cortu alot?
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Remember to do you dailies and turn in your gold request Is what I was going to say 1 hour ago
>>40325 Nothing the gold daily cant fix
>>40079 I suggest trying on another device(make sure to link) like if on pc;try phone, or vice versa. Also dont open that chest if its bugging. Forced recovery IS 24hr cd for some dumb reason
How much gold do you get from the urgent quest? I missed the one yesterday because I was a retarded and didn't see where I had to go, but saw a post in this thread now. I haven't got to that map yet, but I should be strong enough to get to it, but only if the rewards are actually good because I am lazy.
>>41852 I hear if you poison yourself you cant get charmed/confused. Go step on some tiles and come back, sure you take like 10hp a turn but so what. If it doesnt work, well i never tried it since you dont need to fight her again. Worth a shot though
>>43639 Guarda like 60k Abyss2 ship 48k Capital 30? Using a marianne/another golddigger in your team.
How does Rinne's Empty Husk work? No armor as in no body armor or nothing PERIOD and just weapons?
>Flutterdream Flash with a bow on MC I'm cumming
for older players, did the Cave of Malice currency carry over?
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Can someone help me with party composition? On abyss floor 7 right now but every boss fight feels so fuckin difficult even mobs wiped out my party a few times. I barely won with rng against the scorpion girl after resetting like 5 times
>>44074 >*Party composition and character build
>>44074 Anon, you're fucking stacked. Your problem is not your lineup, it's either your gear or your gameplay
>>44074 i think you're a little underleveled for that area, i was around level 15 when i made it to the 7th floor undead enemies are very troublesome to harm so you'll need to use magic or undead bane weapons
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Can't tell if my alice has a boon or not, was there a calc?
>>44074 Swap drigga with elise and give him a bow, farm some anti-undead weapons and level up a bit
>>44219 I see. I had him using daggers. I thought you should put him on middle front for the passive buff
>>43966 No, and character banner points don't carry either Gandolfo-Heavy Attack Elise-Armor Break Chloe-Warrior's Cry Ophelia-Counterattack Elda-Follow up Olive-Will to Fight Benjamin- Fighter HP UP Gaston-Fighter ATK UP Philip-Delay Attack Milana-Poison Attack Viviana-Hiding Jean-Disarm UP Amelia-Stealth Bakesh-Trap Detect UP Galina-DIOS Emil-MADIOS Marianne-LATUMOFIS Daniel-MACALDIA Valdor-MAKALTU Flut-MIGAL Jarmil-FERU Asha-KATINO Dino-MONTINO Alex-Stun Bash Eckart-Attract Hit Clarissa -Self Heal Eldorado-Cover Eulalia-Behind Cover Barbara-Assault Guard Kiriha-Armor Pierce >>44074 The Dwarf bros are actually a godsend for early game due to how fucking tanky they are. You don't see a lot of magic unless you run into 4 bone sorcs but you don't appear to have them. Eulalia Mask Gerulf Yek Alice Arboris I said Eulalia because she has def buff, water element for Halito from bone sorcs, has behind cover, and generally higher ASPD so she can use defend to bait an opening I dunno your Mask's stats/gear but I'm assuming you're okay with having him as a frontliner Arboris is AMAZING with Savia, but Gerulf isn't much of an evader so just keep Gerulf tanky and protect his terrible mag def with cortu or Eulalia ALICE SHOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE REAR This is the place where she shines moreso than LAERIK If it gets close to the rope, Give Alice a mace and shield in her item bag and yek a dagger of undead bane
>>44074 >level 12-13 Do some grinding on floor 7 for anti-undead weapons and experience. The extra health and stats from leveling will make the biggest difference for you at that point.
>>44289 At low levels you just can't put him on the front, he's way too squishy and you don't have access to good EVA gear Also put alice on the middle for now, Labadios rapes undead harder than laerik. Also, at lvl 15 alice learns MAREIN, which works wonders for the early undead.
>>44199 https://wizardry-daphne.mcwild.net/init_status/ Go to change class and compare her mage stats to this Remember to -1 all the stats for each grade
>>43750 They worded it weirdly, it's just simply no Heavy Armor or Light Armor, you can still wear robes and other gears.
holy fuck bros party is Elda Galina Savia Yek Mask Arboris I ate two alice yesterday for agora lv 2 and I keep hearing her quotes after fights "I can't believe we went up against such RUNTS" etc
>>45326 >her quotes As in Alice? I don't recall her voice lines mentioning runts. Alice says something along the lines of torture sessions, while Agora says something about weaklings. I could definitely be wrong since I'm always on double speed so I never get to hear the voicelines in full lol
>>45374 Agora's only, not alice's did a double take when I heard "Wanton slaughter" and remembered that I had Galina as my priest
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>>45532 Huh... maybe that's what the artist was referencing?
>>45821 Damn. Thought it was a dope aspect of Alice protecting Mask's identity from the ones he resurrects so they don't freak out over his face.
fucking rip should've gave abe dupe to rinne instead of discipline https://x.com/ruruna_de/status/1913166199527010404
nvm think I was confusing Elda with agora on x2 speed dammit
>>46096 its all fun and games until you look at their equips
They really really need to add a better way to get Ninja gear. This shit is ass. I propose a crafting event where you farm ores and the blacksmith makes a piece of gear of your choice and you pump ores into it to roll the substats.
>>47194 Thanks for beta testing, ninjabros
Should I keep one of each character or are there certain characters that are just better than others in regards to non-legendary?
>>47642 Having as many adventurers as possible helps with sending them out on dispatch missions and having somebody in the meantime to fill in the role while you keep your main party members back at the guild to restore their fortitude after you got killed by buggy ambushes that cause your party members to be killed three times in a row. And of course, it might also allow you to get those weekly >go to bed and level up 1 time achievements if you have a big roster available.
>>46096 Abe's skill is trash when inherited to someone else because it only activates 10% of the time. That's just a lucky clip.
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>been using the steam forums all this time instead and it turns out everyone just moved here anyways NINJAMCBROS WE ARE SO FUCKING COOKED WHY IS DUAL WIELD NINJA ONLY NOW
>>47995 I hate to be that guy but unless they do something about the exp gain Ninja MC is gonna SUCK! You can't send MC on dispatches and needing, what is it 20 fucking mil exp for 60? And it's only gonna get worse, too.
>>47995 you will farm 10 gorillion exp and have no equips and you will like it
>>47995 The secret drecom spy saw us talking about MC dual wield and shut it down.
>>47995 Because then it would make Ninja a useless class
>>44302 what makes Arboris good with Savia? i don't see the synergy at all
>>43698 that's smart!!! thanks anon
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WTF, is this new? Or just super-dooper rare
>>50538 get that vamp a nail clipper damn
aye, rinne with abe skill is a game changer who cares about damage when crit or on hit dagger
So what did everyone do with their free bones anyway?
>>50965 Went all in on Chloe and maxed her discipline
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>>50986 Based.
>>50965 Eldas and gandolfos. Fps3 now on mc fua 5 Heavy 3 berk+iarumas 2wotw
>>50965 forever holding
>rolling for new character >she has 80 fort only Why does it feels so devastating? Even more than low bonus or shit boon...
>>43709 Oh I didn't know it had options for every dungeon, I thought it was just guarda.
Before I forget, what should I buy here? I was only able to clear up to intermediate so I only got 250 coins.
>>53062 WotW WAS the must have but now there are alternatives with the new Potential Inherit system and it is a bit expensive Heavy Attack (get 1 for sure if you don't have HA3 on MC), Follow-Up Attack and Counterattack are good buys Because the books are devalued due to the new system, a Class Change scroll is an option too if the two free Class Change tokens didn't get you all of the ones you wanted, particularly Lana's Fighter scroll. Remember not to buy scrolls to change back because you have the other new currency to use for that instead now, so only scrolls to new classes for that character are valuable
>>53168 Thanks, looking at the gacha, these potential inherits seem pretty rare though so maybe it is still worth getting WotW. I think I will get WotW and HA + Follow-up.
>>53644 I mean, only because I already have all the fighter class change scrolls I want, otherwise yeah I think you are right, and that might have been better use of the points now. We will eventually end up with a ton of these skills anyway, even if the chance is pretty low for now.
Can anyone help me why the corrosion sentry flag don't appear on my wheel for portrait gallery and ghost of yore?
>>54311 Ghosts of Yore doesn't have Sentry flag Portrait Gallery has one. so you will likely have to go through that area and reach the harken while blocking the sentry to set it up
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>>54336 >Ghosts of Yore doesn't have Sentry flag It does
>>54352 Well. then you don't need it for True End. At least that was in my case. Also MAUSOLEUM RESET TOMORROW GET YOUR 5 BONES
I've never class changed a non-MC character yet, but I'm preparing to. Bonus points and boons carry over, yes? If I pump STR on a STR booned Lana, it all carries over to Fighter?
>>54468 Boons may or may not carry over, depending on the class. Some classes can't have some boons and thus they get neutral statlines in that case(and visaversa, where if you have neutral line the class change may have a boon). If it's one that overlaps it should carry over though.
What class do you guys normally sit the MC in? I've gotten most of the stuff from the martial classes but I'm walled by the 6th floor of Abyss 2 until I get some better gear. K***ht seems really, really terrible so I guess MC can be a Thief in the backline?
>>54592 Fighter
>>54592 I've got fighter, thief, and priest(and part of mage to learn all the status spells) all leveled on him and they all have some use depending on the team comp. Knight is very niche and basically only useful for knigger defense on hard bosses(less so now that alice's skill doesn't affect it, rip) and maging is better done by priests anyway. I'll probably level ninja slowly for autobattle purposes once we get it but I'm not looking forward to that grind.
Hello fresh player here. Less than a week in, whaled, legendary team killed ents on B3. My question is besides guild missions and waifus how many spare parties do you guys keep? Do you level team 2 after gaining the wheel or is it just the one party.
>>54592 For now Fighter but I will main ninja later, already dreading the 10 milli grind.
>>54592 Fighter is best if you get Heavy Attack 3 (1 book or 1 Gandolfo) and get all of the ATK and Specialization nodes in Well of Mind, and then it becomes even better once you get FPS later once you're approaching level cap. I was THF using Sneak Attack until I reached the end of Guarda at 50 and felt forced to switch to Fighter for FPS around then because THF simply doesn't get a strong 51-60 skill. You will want to level Priest on MC for cures, too
>>54723 I have 10 lvl 60s which i swap around in main party and 10 lvl 30-40s to be on Dispatch Duty permanently. You shouldn't worry about multiple teams this early. They are only really required to get Dispatch loot. You don't need to get into specific party setups until you hit Abyss 3 which is where shit gets really hard.
>>54664 >>54755 >>54764 I figured, Fighter seems to be overall the best because of how terrible Knight is. Thanks for the confirmation. I don't have access to Priest or Mage yet but I'm looking forward to have something to use my MP on. One other question since I got Kiriha randomly: when Empty Husk says its proc rate increases when wearing no armor, does that mean he has to be actually naked or does it just mean cloth only?
>>54723 It's not so much 'spare parties' but having Mages of different elements for farming different areas (or Old Ruins, which is coming up again), having a couple of each class for Proving Grounds (assuming the pattern holds and you can only enter future ones with 3 of X class, like Fighter) and to swap them when elements aren't favorable, bosses that favor two Priests, having another character to swap in when one dies and has no Fortitude, etc. There is no benefit to a 2nd party on its own. Dispatches are not a big deal.
Abenis is the best fighter right now, but really she's on a fragile throne. The other 2 legendary fighters being dogshit really helped.
>>54883 in a post-Tzalik/Drigga move world, she's gonna get mogged hard when the next fighter/frontliner releases. she'll still be nice for farming at least
>have someone at level 20 from dispatches and the weekly demands one more non-daily request >decide to try the lead exam for them to see if it counts >"Oh yeah, they buffed poison. I wonder if the skeleton is vulnerable" >he takes like 24 damage a turn, meh >he dies to it >this softlocks the game I know poison is usually dogshit when you get to use it in rpgs but this is next level
>>55286 Not a poison, but blood edge was very useful against that fucking doll.
>>55764 Speaking of blood edge, how good is it against abyss 3 gwo? I am about to attempt it but I only have 1 fighter, my good run I was basically out of resource at the end that everyone is just auto attacking so I am raising another fighter to 60. But if you can actually proc blood edge consistently on then gwo then I am going to save my tags.
>>55889 My debra with 210 attack does like a 200dmg bleed per tick
How the FUCK do you get the cursed wheel? Every single guide mention it
>>56014 clear the tutorial once
>>55917 Was more wondering does it actually land cause some boss have thick ass resistances that I don't know if is worth trying to try to cast it
>>56124 I've never seen the debuff miss, just the attack itself. Havent tried it on the gwo though.
>>56124 It worked on the arms. Never tried its body since i set up sneak attack after arms. Probably fine. Worked on doll just fine, and octonarus when i was bond farming. Bleed isnt really resisted that i know of
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>Chloroa, uh, my homeland... doesn't exist anymore... Very cool, very nice, Lana.
Sell-buff campaign soon, it's time to Doomp eet.
>>50965 I got some Gandolfos for Heavy Attack(also got lucky and got a WotW) and then got a bunch of Kirihas for discipline
>>50965 D7 Amelia.
>>50965 Gonna hold until the general samurai gets released, unless the pool doesn't update in which case I will still hold
Gave my Chloe some Disciplines. She doesn't get hit anymore except for those random ultra high level mobs from quests like the Gamblers.
Japs are apparently farming junk in the catacombs by going to the locked door, then purposefully selecting the candles in the wrong order to spawn a fight that drops a guaranteed chest. Catacombs are kicking my ass though, so I need to replace debra with someone plus level up some anti undead weapons first. But I'm such a cheapass that I'm waiting until the blacksmith discount. Hopefully it won't get nerfed before then.
>>60844 With all the fights down there that doesn't seem like a super efficient farm, but probably better than sentries that can randomly kill some of your team unless you're whaled out to the max
>>60844 https://x.com/wizdaphnewall/status/1912909752226685306 Here is the spot, kunais can drop too. I guess i'm gonna park there for a few days.
>>61084 >Page doesn't exist I didn't put much attention to it, but to get to this event do you need to beat guarda once right?
>>61135 you need to get the good ending once and do a request to unlock it
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>>61135 My bad, should have post the image. And yeah you need the good end for the request to open the place
>>61181 >>61272 Nice, hope you guys get some good loot while it lasts
>>61272 The Japanese translation is kinda iffy, can you just light the wrong candle over and over or do you need to go back to the door every time?
>>61473 I'm farming it now, you can light the candle over and over after you intereact with the door.
>>62021 Thats actually giga bis
>Skeletons in Catacombs are hitting my 190 Eva Chloe ok bro who the fuck tricked me into investing into Eva coin
Is this the correct site? What is its stance on Fishmen?
>>63941 Fishmen are demihuman scum
total fishmen death
>>63941 Total fishmen death
>>63974 I found you guys. Reddit was awful The biggest update in the game an no one was really talking about how Alice just became the best inherit in the game.
>>63941 >Is this the correct site? Indeed. >What is its stance on Fishmen? TOTAL FISH DEATH
You can backtrack up and warp to the zone 3 harkin and travel to the zone 2 fountain to rest without respawning catacomb mobs as well
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Fishmen LOVE!
Got bored of farming garbage junk so I decided to push for the end. I got lucky and got the succ and pixie group for both minibosses so it wasn't too tough. Not the voice I was expecting for Morgus though.
>umbral heavy helm 18 def -2 aspd -2 accuracy 2 evasion 4 res >umbral helm 12 def -1 aspd -2 accuracy -2 evasion 3 res Why the hell does the heavy helm give more evasion than the regular one. Light type ones are the same as well, while other element regular helms start at 4 evasion. Seems like a classic Drecom fuck up.
>spend all jims on abenius (55 pulls) >no abenius im quitting again
>>65481 u rike
>>64111 Is this the power of being on a website not be run on code from the stone age?
>>65481 Time to flip some burgers and roll for more abenius
Is abenius really worth it? How good is she
Ok now this is starting to get fucking out of wack. I wonder how much the buff is in exchange for such fucking insane downsides.
>>65736 She's the best fighter, and I would argue that's even more true if you cannot put any dupes into inherit or discipline, but it's not like she's in some other highest tier. If you feel like you have a good fighter it might be higher value for you to pull on the general fighter banner and get good inherits onto whichever character you do use.
>>65816 I got a single gerulf but thats about it
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Feels good, bros.
>>66148 gimme gimme money!
>>65997 I am not a Gerulf enjoyer. He is only worth anything using a two-handed blunt weapon and I just don't think those are worth it. If you don't have this personal draw to Abe for a specific team and strategy you have in your brain, and you aren't drawn to the waifu factor, just skip and use a general adventurer. She isn't good enough for you to make some huge pivot in your playing.
I got a first alice dupe, is it better to inherit to herself or to MC?
Nice to see you guys alive. Still no fairies, so I'm still gem hoarding. How's the thread going so far? Pretty dead or did everyone migrate over safely?
i'm still on tutorial, how the FUCK do you beat helmut
>>66301 first stage of inherit gives an extra turn for everyone, meaning it's really good for pretty much everyone that has effects that last a certain amount of turn, especially other priests/mages, but also good for Knights now You need lvl 3/5/7 on Alice for even more turns, 1/5 on others
>>66525 so using it on herself is only worth if I manage to get what, 3 dupes total to reach lvl 3 on the skill? Meaning my 1 dupe is better used to yek or someone, also why knights?
>>66417 >Be level 18-20 >Roughly +4 on equipment, especially for front line >Sword of the Breeze for your fighter >When he summons rocks, break one of them. It takes like 10 hits or something, the digging tool can do 5 in one turn. He'll step on the rubble and then you right hand it for big damage+stun >Play it extremely safe. Your priest probably won't be able to cast Badios because of topping up health and refreshing defense buffs >minmax your mage as best as you can to make sure you can clear the row of minions he will summon with one ma-spell
>>66417 Well, do you get into the battle with full hit points and magic points? Is your front line equipped with the best equipment (should be bronze tier stuff at this point)? Are you around level 16 and higher (the closer you are to 20, the better, of course)? Are you using the wind blade (Helmut is vulnerable to wind damage)? Are you using buffs and debuffs? Do you have the pickaxe (give it to a front line party member other than the masked adventurer, as they can destroy the rubble in two rounds)? Also, do you have supplementary healing items in case your healer can't heal enough anymore?
>>66417 he's weak to air, if you found the Sword of the Breeze that will be effective against him He loves to fling things at you, so keep accuracy debuffs on him At a certain HP threshold, he'll ram your whole party. He might charge again right after this, so be very careful when going all in on damage as your party probably wont survive a double charge
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>>66666 >see repeating digits >reply to post
>>66666 The Number of the BEAST YOU'VE BEEN CURSED
>>66666 Have a good day, mega Satan.
>>66666 John Drecom please release the fairy from the risk safe jail...
>>66554 Anyone?
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>>66328 The thread's overall a bit slower than back on 4chan but at least it's not dead.
>>66554 if you were to use it on herself id use it on discipline or hold until lvl 3, knights can't extend their Knight's Defense anymore, not sure what else they'd use it for
>>66936 If you don't plan to use Alice long term or have other favorite caster/priest then it's better to use her dupe to inherit other character, prioritise MC first though. Since the skill got buffed it affects all active skills and spells (aside from Knight's Defense) so knight's Cover and other tanking skills get extended, help them abit in tanking stuffs.
>>67087 That's multiple reasons, like some anons not knowing that 4chan /vg/ is temporarily here on 8chan, and also perhaps because thread IDs making a few of the low effort shitposters hesitate to dump their usual spiel. Which is a good thing, overall.
>>67240 >temporarily seeing how shit is going on 4chains side, im unsure if it will actually be temporary
>>67172 Is there any resource online to actually know how much a level of discipline increases?I do have 2 alice dupes now but is an extra turn on her really better than an extra turn on 2 whole other allies like yek and someone else
>>67489 go ingame into the inherit skill screen and click Skill Enhancement at the bottom and you can check all your skills and what level does what.
Can you get other encounters than the Necrocore for the candles?
Is an int boon any good on alice? I dumped all her points into speed, dunno if her as a mage is a good option later
>>67536 She makes a good Mage but her Secret Art probably scales off Divine Power, and there isn't much that's weak to Water. Her use as a Mage is for longer debuffs and Cortu than usual, and I'm not sure any of that scales with IQ. You don't want to leave her as Mage because Elf Mage HP is too low. So, IQ boon doesn't do much (neither does Piety really due to soft caps), Speed is a good play with the bonus points
>>67532 There is an easy candle with 2 big slame and 2 fairies >>61272 which the nips are farming.
Is there a way to unlock locked characters in the adventurer log without registering them?
>>67536 Alice's inherit also increases debuff turns, so levels in mage are good. When she's not healing, she should be buffing and debuffing. You do want to end up swapping her back to a priest for the extra hp though.
>>67657 Click the lock
>>67643 I wish I could check if my alice I got when I started had a boon. That is all helpful info though, I am gonna make this IQ boon one my main regardless since she has 100 fortitude atleast (old one is 80) Thank you for the help
So is the best possible marianne a speed boon with all points into speed too then? Or does her getting easy discipline change anything
>>67804 Go to the Class Change menu and subtract 1 stat for each Grade on her Mage stats and you'll know if the old one has a boon or not (supposedly, haven't done it myself)
>>67892 We don't know if Priests will get something that will give them a reason to want more Divine Power/Piety later, they likely will. But for now Speed gives you both needed Evasion and Action Speed. High Discipline devalues everything except LCK AFAIK.
>>68045 It doesnt help because there is no way to tell if a point is from a boon or if I allocated one of the 5 starting points into it sadly
>>65780 How do you revive with zero fortitude if it cant increase when you are dead? Seems this can only be used on the MC. >>65736 She's solid. If she gets Samurai class change she will be amazing. I think the skill changes made her intro attack debuff last longer. It lasts 4 turns at level 3. I am 60% sure it was 2 or 3 turns before.
>>1604 do they let us use japanese voice with english text yet?
>>68093 Luck Priests endgame meta
>>68413 doesnt she already have priest as her second class?
>>68565 Not yet sadly.
>>61272 Junk rate is still abysmal sitting here and autobattling this over and over. I really don't like how every new place is worse to farm than the last
>>69093 Surely it can't be worse than running around in guarda since you have a guarantee chest spawn on it right
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>>69118 I only get junk once every 5 chests or so, at least in Guarda you can just reset the Zone 10 Harken until 1-2 chests spawn and they'll have junk most of the time
>>68772 Pure hopium for me that she will get 2nd class change when samurai comes out. The reveal her class change was priest is still disappointing.
gwos how do you guys feel about the skill update cause I am a bit conflicted. I am investing everything into making mega Savia at the moment so this is good for me because when I play rpgs I almost never swap out party members, but I imagine most people do especially in blobbers. In the future when everyone invested tons of shit into their current party I feel is basically impossible for new characters to compete unless they specifically have very unique or extremely broken interaction. On one hand I love sticking with my original party through the entire game but on the other I don't know how others feel cause I imagine some autist be upset when they get their new drigger elf that they need to spend 2000 dollars again to "leve" her back up.
>>69093 After an hour here I agreed, they also drop only 3* so it's mostly meh. Though I have a better shot of getting kunai here than bashing my head against those cyclops so I guess i'm staying for a while.
>>69118 The junk quality is awful, the majority of it is that 6% chance for a 3 star garbage and I didn't see any fey drops(other than the one guaranteed in the chest behind the locked door) at all after doing it for an hour.
>>69287 Or they give us some way to farm skill exp, or the power creep will go to the moon, and with tzalik and drigger i'd bet on the latter.
>>69287 I am just hoarding $Mariannecoin and 70k gems instead of interacting with these systems, as usual. I feel like doing something irreversible before it is absolutely required to progress is a mistake, as a guppy ($8 spent). We just don't know what the eventual bottleneck will be or what powercreep will look like, other than seeing drigger and TZALIK-man start to rev it up.
>>67423 I wouldn't mind staying here, if the thread itself stays here. It's comfy.
>Not a single piece of gear worth going to +15 pain
anyone know if you can wheel or trigger more corrosion sentries after delivering the evidence for the true ending to make the gwo fight easier?
Did anyone get any alternate inherits with their mausoleum bones? There's no drop rates to check so I was wondering if they were nice enough to update them to make it possiblewho am I kidding lol
Lmao, this is one of the blessings available for guarda
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>>69691 I actually procrastinated the class specific bone farming until after the update, didn't get any rare inherits, so it's either low/not possible or I am a huge lucklet.
>>69686 You can just adjust them and warp straight to floor 10 to deliver the evidence again, you don't lose it once you have it. D level is the minimum for true ending I believe
>>69691 Do they have special indicators
>>65780 I like the legalese flavor of the description
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>>69871 They will have a small golden glowing icon on their banner in the gacha roll screen/skill inherit skill screen afaik.
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>>69938 Oh found them, all I have sadly, no fighters
Is there a faster way to find ugo in the ship other than wander around. Can I just go up and down ladder and pray he appears? He's only in ship level 2 right or can he be in any part of the ship.
>>70314 I think I found him on one, you only have to find and buy something from him once though, each subsequent time he'll automatically show up at ricken's shop once you wheel to the end.
true ending done not sure if there's another guiding light for doing it on all three routes, but if there isn't I'm done with the content for now
>>70424 oh thank fucking god I was going to give up if I have to go through this shit every time. On the first run though after I find him can I just wheel straight to after I beat the gwo or do I have to go through the chain again? Or can I only wheel forward on runs after the first? I don't want to run through this ship again but I don't want to go through gwo if I can help it.
Finally done right before rerun
>>70469 First time: do request, send to rickard, find him, buy something(might not be necessary), wheel to return to capital, tp to b1,get bondmate repeating: wheel to rickard's shop, go up to 2f, go back down and tp to town, get request, do request, wheel to end, get bondmate, repeat
>>70424 I just tried it and yeah I didn't have to beat them up again, thanks gwo
I tried farming Kunais in the catacombs but its extremely cancer. jesus. The volume is mobs is fucking insane.
>>70646 Yeah it's terrible. I tried the candle trick and it's still a huge pain to farm unless you're a leviathan with hyper-invested units. It really seems like F2 of the ship is still the only worthwhile farming spot in the game right now. Everything else requires way too much attention or way too much investment.
I can't help but think that, during the extra treasures in chests event, that junk dropped less often, and in less quantity.
>>71088 I'd recommend anyone to just get the good ending of Guarda to get another dispatch that can give decent equipment and then just send two of the 20 hour dispatches every day Farming Guarda is just too annoying, I'd rather wait for new content or events
is the game good
>>71694 I like it a lot, especially at the start it's just a good dungeon crawler that doesn't even feel like a typical gacha/mobile game You can do pretty much all content F2P as most of the power is in equipment (though that can be a huge grind admittedly) I wish there were any dungeon crawlers coming out at this quality or better without any gacha bs, but I'll take what I can get
>>71088 >it's still a huge pain to farm unless you're a leviathan with hyper-invested units. I'm all D0 with no Light gear and it's fine, just a little dicey on the way out to rest after healing is all dried up. You get so dirty that you'll get ambushed and killed so you have to clear the miniboss in front of Morgus' door and leave that way.
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>>66558 >>66584 >>66666 Thanks for the replies. I'm finally done with this fucker, had to die a lot and waster 100 gem on revives to figure out you don't have to destroy the rock and the strat is actually to leave one shitter alive in front so his back to back so ram only does half damage. Goddamn I can't believe this is just the tutorial.
>>72922 Tip, you can just wait for the flames to regen if you don't accept your death and just leave it there for 2 hours. Also if it's the first Helmut fight... good luck bro.
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>>72922 >100 gem on revives Anon, I...
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>>72922 >100 gem on revives
>>72922 congratulations, don't waste your gems in on revives in the future. hope you enjoyed the execution
>>73214 >>73673 I did like 3 refreshes of flames glitching through proving grounds and it was fucking worth it because the day after they patched that shit
>>71088 >ship its just steel tier tho
>farm LIGHT IT for hours >get only 5 junks capable of giving kunai >they're diluted by having the entire ebonsteel pool Uh yeah don't do this for kunai. I would have got 4 Shinobi junks from Zone 10 by now and they don't have ebonsteel eating your chance of kunai/covert
If I want to farm cyclop underwear, you need to have a fully level ninja right to dispell the attack buff right or is aids
>>74089 Farm by volume, you get 10x more junk on boat than on guarda, yeah it's steel but for armor/accs it doesn't matter that much. Unless you are trying to farm for ninja gear, then you are just fucked and banished to the cyclops rape dungeon,
>>74196 Supposedly, but everytime he casts it for me he immediately gets another turn to smack me.
>>74228 he always casts the concentration buff at an hp threshold so control your dps a bit maybe
>>74196 I would say it's not worth doing at all, you simply need high Discipline and skill levels to kill quickly enough in proportion to the abysmal drop rate. Not to mention that it's not worth going for until you have +20 of basically everything else because it's not that good in the first place unless you megaluck into a red 5* or something. >>74228 The cyclops attack buff is triggered from half HP or something, you want it set up so after your FPS or TZALIK or whatever goes off, the ninja is taking its turn before the cyclops goes again. That being said, you can dispel the buff and he can bug out and hit you for 1000 damage anyway, I never figured out why and it happened enough times that I stopped bothering.
>>67240 >temporarily I'm not going back bros, this is way comfier >>69287 It's meh. Level 2 skills still seem to suck ass and the droprates of the new inherits is lower than legendary adventurers so effectively nothing changed for me.
Why do daggers do 1 damage with regular attacks despite showing like 42 in the menu? Swords hit properly
>>74483 enemy has high defense or you're using 'em on someone with low dex or whatever Nimble strike scales on
>>74483 Your damage is reduced by enemy defense/2 before other modifiers, so because daggers have lower base damage it's harder for them to break through enemy defense. They need you to stack +ATK more than any other weapon type.
>>74506 using them on frontline arboris at like level 30ish, his dex is way higher than his str, should I just use swords anyways if im gonna frontline him?
>>74516 Yeah, or backline him behind MC and give him a bow. If you wanted to play him like a regular THF you could use daggers with Sneak Attack which ignores Defense and distance, but with Arboris, just use him as a tactical nuke until he's out of SP
>bulk extracting anything below the best tier I can currently farm (steel) unless it's a purple 4* >bulk selling anything below steel if it's mundane unless it's at least 4* >still at 455/500 inventory used how the fuck, I don't have nearly that much junk lying around... do I? How do you guys cope with this?
>>75020 Just buy inventory space gaijin.
>>75020 -2000 gems anon, do it.
>>75020 time to start purging those 4*s...
Do an melee units ever learn an AOE or is that reserved for mages
>>75630 There are no melee AoEs that I know of, and the only non-magic one that comes to mind is Ninja can hit 3 enemies at once with throwing weapons.
I keep seeing people say to "not use the inn" or "use fountains to rest" when ur powerleveling a char but why dont they just tell you to not use the grade up button yet? Or does tha character not gain exp until the level cap was raised for them?
>>75870 I've never seen someone say that, it was always "Don't uncap, and send people to the dispatch mines for 2 weeks"
>>75912 I feel like I still havent figured out any good dispatches at my leve
You get a decent one at abyss 2, and a GIGA one at abyss 3 when you kill the necrocore and get the harken at 4f. It's the 2 people max with the EXP tag on them.
>>76014 Port Town: Plea! Sailor Monster Extermination -12 hours. Keep the leveling unit locked at level 20 and send them with someone who is already leveled. You want them to travel 3 times from dispatch results. There is one for next town but I believe you want to be capped at level 30.
>>75870 That's for MC.
>>76146 3 times the full 12 hour dispatch? for what, why 3 times specifically
>>76461 in the report you'll ideally see the party traveled 3 times giving the lower level adventurer 100k exp per travel.
>>76461 If you click on report when your dispatch comes back, you can see how often your party went out on that dispatch, 3 is the maximum and what you'll usually get if you send someone at level cap + someone at 20/30 on these dispatches, this maximizes the exp for the unit you want to level If you put decent equipment on them you can probably level two characters at the same time, but what exactly affects dispatch success other than character level is kind of nebulous
>>76461 When you check the results you can see how many trips they took and success/fail of them. 3 is the max at this time. So you can have a Success with only one trip for 70k exp and a success with 70k for all 3 trips for 210k exp.
>get to guarda f5 >gorgons are pretty nasty enemies but its doable >have to gather some food for the princess to feed my new loli >random gorgon + minotaur fight in the western cave is the tankiest shit of all time and can one shot frontliners pretty sure we could seal all the abysses and this world would still be fucked thanks to random caves like this or the fire dragon cave
>>76783 >Stone breath >Stone breath >Stone breath I still can't kill the gorgon boss there, that fucker has gorillions of hp.
>>76977 do you have to kill the gorgon boss to complete the quest?
>>77281 Pretty sure you can either choose to fight the boss or take the pussa route and farm the regular ones
>>77281 No, he's only there to kill the illiterate. He's our friend, like Hitler.
What determines how often you get the Ambush/Plead/Flee options when you encounter enemies?
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The next Abyss is actually Light, right? It's so shiny and white... >>77774 I don't think anyone has figured this out
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>>78055 Wew Calm down, anon
>>72125 It's definitely not fine for me. The catacomb skeletons are landing hits on my front line through 140 evasion with Masolotu, and the dark elementals from the candle 2-shot most of my team. You must have some crazy good gear.
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>>78579 >big skels Avoid if possible, if not just Defend with DEF buff up until you kill them with Openings, it's only like 80 damage hits in that case. >dark eles Are you at the wrong candle? The right one is two fairies and two big slimes. If you have a bow and 140 EVA frontline you can auto them with some basic +20 steel or ebon weapons. I have to heal now and then and rez very rarely because of their gay -EVA debuff, but it's fine. >gear I have +20 bow, horny sword, and demonbane sword, and kiriha who does no fucking damage but has a lot of EVA and one-shots a slime sometimes, no Light weapons or armor
I wish they released potential skill inheritance before I had to go to pity for Arboris. Has anyone gotten PSI from mausoleum bones? I'm guessing it's not possible since there's no drop rate button you can select when reversing.
>>78964 I havent got my crucible shit. Ill let you know tomorrow
Hi. I started playing the game like a week ago. I just managed to clear the first grade exam. Game is fun. I don't understand half the things in it still but I can see myself playing it for a long time.
>>78845 >Start battle >MAZELOS >ZELOS >MAZELOS man i wish vampires werent such fucking faggots
Ok this is my loot after getting good rng heading towards the candle and farming it with 1 Rest at the Well on Floor 2. Certainly not stellar but after getting a nice setup of killing the 2 fairies on turn 1 then its pretty painless. Now lets see if i get any actual usable gear.
>>80974 Are the Fey junks drop from the candle mob or something on the way there? Since i've been farming the candle for awhile and no fey junks dropped.
>>80997 It drops on the Candle. So yea there's Fey in the pool. I wonder if there's Fey Five Blossom.
Is it worth changing Marianne into a mage? I was also considering changing Milana or Alice into a mage too.
>>81135 shes decent as a mage so yes
>>81037 Cool guess I will keep on farming here. >>81135 Priest->Mage and vice versa is always good to have.
>>81149 >>81214 Thanks, anons.
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>>81347 MASSIVE _HAT
Human women
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>forgot to turn in the gold quest yesterday before reset >enter the tavern today >she gives me the rewards anyways Ngl, didn't expect drecom to think this further ahead
How far do you even need to progress to do the gold quest?
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>>82020 Floor 4 of Abyss 1 Another one on Abyss 2 floor 3 After that Ship Floor 1 I didn't make it to Abyss 3 so thats as far as I'm aware about it!
oh so this is where you guys are hiding I miss this general.
MY precious servants
Just to clarify, if I send a unit thats locked at level 20 and not graded up to a dispatch it will still gain EXP?
>>82783 Correct, when it can't gain exp anymore, it will show 0 exp on the dispatch.
Does anyone here have a Doro Masketta? I didn't save it from 4chong.
Does feeding 1 copy of alice to someone else make the inherit even any worse than alices? Its still 1 extra turn right? What part of it is worse if its just comparing lvl1 to lvl 1
>>82906 less mp
Should I stop investing into Debra past the tutorial first run? Also hag voice
>>80113 Glad to have you, any question you got just ask here and we will help. Savor the risk
>>82983 abyss 1 as a whole was really well done. this game would had been my GOTY if it was an actual game and not gacha ngl
>>82993 By level 30 and more, you will have enough sp for your thieves to use their skills for an entire floor with no big problem, so Debra does lose her unique purpose somewhat later on.
>>82993 Debra is cute but Viviana and Milana are cuter. AND better at dealing with traps. Viviana's passive also fully compensates the lack of shield which makes her the most auto-attack friendly frontliner-thief in the game because you can use her with a bow instead of a sword.
I'm worried for the future
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So they do drop after all, so damn rare though I got like 100+ normal junks before the fey dropped.
>>83011 this game as a foundation for another rounded out, normal length title with a tangible endgame and rebalanced progression would be the ultimate drpg. the size of the playable cast and length of the current abysses are substantial as is even if you gut the grindan and events. just write an overarching story that lasts around three to five major dungeons, throw in the remaining three advanced classes of the original games, and it's basically good to go.
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>>83496 Reminds me of Legend of Grimrock
Gessi cursed me, what does that do?
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>>82993 Total Debra Love
>>84033 Don't look at your party status or you will die tomorrow
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>>84033 Check the debuffs on your party
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Reminder to do your weekly bone run in the Beginning Dungeon
>>84166 >Weekly
>>80974 I have ~250 Catacombs Junk now and I have never seen Fey Armor Junk. WTF man
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>Abe dashes forward during her Flutterdream Dash even when she's wielding a bow Dork >>84200 Well maybe biweekly is more precise
>>84166 Where what
>There's Fey Weapon Junk I've never seen too WHAT THE FUCK MAN >>84200 B6F is weekly-ish
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B6F Mimic chest does respawn btw I guess they just upped the timer for it
>>84339 Where is that?
>>84359 Last area of B6F You can get there without doing all the teleportation puzzles by walking from B7F to it It's just a way to get Mimic Secretions
>>84440 Ahh ok must have not respawned yet for me then, thought I misremembered the spot
Does the game have screentearing on steam for anyone else? 60 fps on a 60hz screen, dunno if I can fix it somehow
>>84488 AFAIK everyone else who asked the same question couldn't fix it. It's not an issue on 144hz+ screens
Damn, I really thought I was going into the Helmut rematch overprepared. Main character is in full +5 gear, good mix of iron and bronze, using Sword of the Breeze at level 29, with the rest of the party not too far behind in gear or level. Fight went until I was drained of MP and SP and I still lost. It had to have been close, I used his rocks on him twice, but either way the jump between the first and second fight is fucking stupid
>>85045 Best to try it again when you're level 30. Also, he gets even more powerful if you attempt to fight him a third time for the best ending.
>>85143 I managed to save everyone this time around, down to the very last soldier. Did I turn up the difficulty by doing this or is there a 3rd loop only way to do the story like not making everyone think I'm some schizo by talking to Lulunarde?
>>85045 You're never overprepared if you're below the level cap you're supposed to be at in this game. 30 is Sneak Attack too which is a big deal for THF, you can fuck him up for full damage even when he's behind the rocks. IIRC I just burned him down with two mages and THF without messing with the rocks at all
>fighting undead centaur boss >spellbind him so now he can't cast AOE spells >debuff his attack and defense >buff my own evasion >wearing him down >"spear of doom" >hits my main character insta killing him ooooohhhhh I don't wanna play anymore
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>>85321 >>fighting undead centaur boss
>>85321 You can get a iron tier helmet with instant death resist in the necromancer permanent event. >How good is it Dunno
>>85321 Savor the MC on the backline, also him casting spells is much more preferably to him casting insta-kills.
>Fighter's Handbook (Chloe) >Knight's Handbook (Chloe) I think the game is trying to tell me something.
Jeweler update >Thief Handbook Dino (New) >Fighter Handbook (Ophelia) On a related note, how does the new class request item work? Does it only allow you to go back to adventurers original class? Can you use it to return back to the other class when level cap increases?
>got to 7th floor guarda >patrols everywhere >almost a guaranteed GG if the cyclops ever decides to use concentrate because he will 100% kill 1+ people on my frontline even if there's 2 of them with 100+ dodge + the dodge buff I don't know how people do it while being in their 40s AND without consulting a map beforehand so they know which way to run when they are being chased by 3+ patrols. I like exploring in dungeon crawlers so I won't spoil myself by reading a map but this is bull. >>85321 see >>85365 it helps to deal with the insta-death fuckery
>well let me just open this treasure ches- *stone needle* Rise Again
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>got a mage scroll for my priest Yek in case I want to turn her back in the future >scroll 3/1 >but I have only one scroll Does that mean if I get a scroll for someone's original class, I can use it 3 times instead of just one? I guess this makes sense since they added the reclass tickets recently.
>>85473 Anyone running Guarda at that low level probably use the freeze glitch. If you open your knowledge list while in a dungeon, it freezes all enemies for whatever reason. In case that happens to you and you want to undo it, opening the event tab fixes this in most cases, though sometimes, you will need to close and reopen the game.
>>85533 It probably means 1 from your specific scroll + 2 from the generic change scrolls >>85473 I will be deeply fucked when they patch the freeze glitch.
does the weekly only ever give ungraded tags or does it upgrade as your get higher levels
Does class change require tags to unlock levels again?
>>85701 No >>85646 4 Ungraded is max I believe (which is really gay, Tag income is still the worst part of the game)
>>85832 >4 Ungraded is max I believe i've heard about anons getting 5 or 6 but it depends on some unknown factors (number of requests completed, etc.)
>>85543 >>85624 wait what I can't believe I was doing this shit legit the entire time lmao. no wonder you guys can navigate through choke points where you HAVE to deal with the patrols because the guy moves faster than you and clobber (You) while you are still in your turning animation. I really can't see someone dealing with the cyclops legit when the guy has instakill damage, anti-evasion skills (I had him blinded, on dodge buff and he still hit my guy with 100+ base evasion) and you can't burst him down unless you have good RNG.
Why do the weekly mission chests say 5:34 hours left rather than a week
>>85882 I've never heard of this and all of the wiki-like pages say 4 tags >>85913 I ganked the only one I fought on the way through Guarda while I was 50, I think its HP must scale up at 60 though because otherwise I'm not sure how I won without FPS. >>86085 Because the reset is JST but the timer is not adjusted against our clocks
>>85913 you can juke those guys without freezing, its just annoying and you might run face first into another guy if you're unlucky. I killed the cyclops ONE time and decided "fuck this, I can't do that again" and
Does the starting class counts as "acquired"? For example if I have Asha - starts as mage. And then turn her into a priest. Do I need a Handbook first to change back to mage before being able to use Class Change Request?
>>85913 You can absolutely kill them, hell, endgame is farming the cyclops, but if the game is going in raw so will i, exploit early exploit often.
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Anyone do True End Guarda lately? Is it true it's buffed?
Uhhh bros, the junk drops rabbit tails on mass.
>>87104 well it's Easter, ain't it?
>>87127 Alright then. Which junk drops 4star purple Rabbit tails?
>Level to 30 to beat Helmut >30 is over leveled for the content that follows I'm assuming they wanted me to do some dumbass shit like push white 1 star bronze gear to max enhance and then start over with iron after getting waterway junk but fuck that for real.
>>87397 Helmut is doable around 25, with the MP cost decreases for efficiency.
>>87035 (me) I checked elsewhere and it is indeed buffed, it Roars much sooner now and sometimes twice in a row...? Guess I'm not touching it till 70 >>86321 On my Priest Adam it shows '4 / 1' if I go to change him back to Mage, I have 1 Mage Handbook and 3 of the new token thingies. I've never changed him back to Mage, so they must work.
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>>87508 Thank you!
Oh... A mimic can just spawn as a regular enemy patrol...
>>86496 I haven't even killed the big bad in abyss 3 yet but can someone who reached good ending kill him reliably tho my main DPS right now are from 2 warriors doing about two 1200-1400ish (I think) FPS and I can absolutely kill the cyclops as long as he gives me enough time to wind-up so it's a diceroll on my end right now.
>>87746 I have only seen this happen in exams, maybe the last floor of abyss 1? not sure.
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>Weekly reset >finally get enough tags to 60 my team >clear the doll with 2 PRIESTS + MC spamming kinaptic and still needed the rest of the party to use sedation scrolls non stop. Has someone tested how much resist do you need to not get fucked by this thing, i had 100 base resistance on my priest/MC and they were still getting charmed with both kinaptic from the scroll and a priest/mc up.
>>87749 refer to >>74257 You can reliably kill them but something causes them to flip out and do double damage even after dispelling the buff sometimes. Maybe it's from using Batilgref, not sure. I stopped farming them either way because I was getting more Shinobi junk from just resetting with the Major Harken and grabbing chests
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Which spell and at Which level heals entire team? I want to spellmax my MC. Level 3 Madios still heals only 1 row.
>>88008 can you still draw the big tiddy mage or was that only a thing during the event?
>>88008 AFAIK none do. >>88053 Only during B&B collab but it could come back someday since it's just another Drecom property
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>>88053 Collab event. Some say its a one time thing even. I still believe they'll rerun them both her and Samurai during part 2 event(Ainikki and Garbage banner) which will DEFINITELY drop with the Anime season!
>get to Bronze exam boss >notice that my frontline is out of SP because of women >just sac and accept death since I can't be arsed dodging them for 5 minutes on the way out >my Debra is dead and at 40 fort so I can't retry right away I hate women
>>88064 I remember someone definitely said to me that its possible to heal all 6 people! >>88092 But Debra is the most SP-efficient character.
>>88125 Debra is not my frontline at the moment
>>88125 That status effect heals at lvl 7 heal all (latumofis, Diador) used to be for a huge amount until they nerfed it, probably pretty meh now
>>74257 >>87988 I see, so it's like that vampire from the fighter trial thing all over again. thanks for the heads up.
>>87035 I did it yesterday, but I only did the good ending before Idk it seemed manageable enough to me, though I died a few times to unlucky hits on my MC, it's overall still kind of rng based, like if it decides to waste its early turns in the first phase with its buffs instead of roaring
>>87508 I don't have a huge sample size, but I believe it roars from damage to the main part only while the tentacles are alive, in most attempts I killed the tentacles before focusing the main body, the one time I didn't it roared out of turn after some damage
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>>88086 I'm happy that my pulls weren't a complete bust. So I am happy for my Iarumas. But I still can't believe I pulled the m*le and never managed to get the tall big-tiddy big-hand mage!
>>88712 And Big hat! Also Iarumas is a bro. He's the only one who understands that its all rng based.
>>88712 If it makes you feel any better Berka is kinda clunky as a warrior or a mage.
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>>89691 Both her and Samurai want an Extra Staff in the inventory. They are very expensive to max to also have way greater powercap thanks to it. If you're not into switching your characters too often then they're great. You can grow them infinitely already and thats even before their second classes are out. Also picrel is just too handy sometimes.
You're supposed to call me Memento Cor.
Huh, mage alice does look nice
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>>90480 Small hat. Weak!
>>90773 She's just not racist enough
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Need her reveal now...
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>>90815 >>90821 Woah! Double the big hat wisdom!
>>90862 Website is borking out, small indie containment board, pls understando
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>tfw a newmaskettoman enters the goblin cave for the first time
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>>90851 longer wait means more gems to save for her...
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Love little doodles like these
>>91234 Unless it turns out that witch is actually a cute dark elf with black sclera and massive blue mommy milkers, I'm going to continue saving up for my fairy wife instead.
>>91648 I hope it's a brown loli elf.
>>91648 Just get both so John Drecom doesn't go homeless.
>>90914 Is the goblin den always scaling to your level, or does it have a maximum level value it scales up to? Like, if you were level 60, the goblins would also be level 60 inside?
>>91817 They scale up to lv 40
>>91817 It scales like the second abyss more or less.
>>91395 Where did you get all these pictures of me? >>91817 iirc they are like lvl 30 in the first loop and lvl 40 in the second one
I only started playing like a week and a half ago, have they re-run Rinne recently? I'm having a lot of fun with Kiriha memes and I know MC is getting Ninja soon, so I'm just curious if I will have the opportunity to run a full line of ninjas and gamble every fight on crits
>>91948 No, she's probably soon. Although I wouldn't recommend doing that since some shit just has too much crit resist, I've still never crit a Cyclops. I wonder if the JP video of it was from the non-FOE Cyclops you can summon from stepping on alarm tiles.
>>92001 I don't doubt that videos like that or the one using Abe's inherit are only possible if you whale for scrolls to level Art of Assassination which I don't plan to do, but I just think they're neat. We'll see how many gems I can scrape together by then
Yekaterina came down walking down the stairs and gave me a heart attack. jesus fuck
I did Bronze Exam, but I got a STR boon on one of my guys so I want to turn the existing one into a bondmate if possible. What's the process of this currently?
I now have a full party of level 40s (Berkanan, Iamuras, Alice, Adam and Yekaterina), and want to do the Iron grade exam. Any advice for how to tackle it? Should I try to grade up other party members that might be better suited?
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DAMN, we look like THIS?
>>92396 https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/adventurer-customization/bondmates/adventurer-bondmates/ Follow it carefully, especially the part about attaching two level 5 Bondmates to it >>92431 IIRC Iron is similar to the first exam except you're facing a plant that's weak to Wind that Critical Poisons you, it's not hard if you nuke the adds fast with Mages and bring Extra Healing potions and whatnot, then hit the Temple for cures after you win
>>92396 Also I should mention, if it's a named SR adventurer, there is no benefit to turning it into a Bondmate versus using it as Inherit or Discipline fodder, unless you purely just want the tags you used on it back. Generic (Hum-Fig etc) Bondmates give the same amount of stats and you can only use one Bondmate per stat on a character. The exception is SRs that give SPD like Philip since you can't get SPD from Generics.
>>92574 Any reason to even grade them up? Would I ideally just max out one of each stat SR and dismiss for the max bond without ever grading them up once?
Holy shit, why are there so many knight-butcher ents in the iron grade exam cave?
>>92711 You only really need to fight the first one. The rest you can dance around.
>>92702 >Any reason to even grade them up? It's just to quickly get the Heart affinity so they're eligible to become a Bondmate, you get the tag back when you Dismiss them anyway >Would I ideally just max out one of each stat SR and dismiss for the max bond without ever grading them up once? No, the only SRs worth doing this with are the ones that give SPD and have poor Inherits, like Philip. You basically want a Hum-Fig on every single physical DPS for STR, an Elf-Mag for INT on each Mage and whoever your chest opener is for Trap Find, then the rest is gravy like moving a SPD Bondmate around to manipulate turn order or whatever
>>92440 imagine that being the last thing you see
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What does Stealth do? It says it increases Initiative but I'm not sure what that means Any reason not to give it to all my Fighters?
>>93632 Well, initiative is when your party somehow ambushed the enemy, which so I guess it increases the chance that you might trigger initiative upon the enemy.
>>93632 Stealth/Hiding is thief specific, you can't use with other classes, also it gives you EVA + SUR + ASPD(?) while you are stealth
>>78845 Thanks for the advice. I tried out the slime candle and it was a lot easier, but is there some way to force autobattle to take out the fairies first? Their AoE sleep is deadly.
>>93679 Stealth isn't hiding though
>>93712 On Auto, my bow user targets one pixie, and then for some reason the MC goes behind the slimes with his sword and whacks the other. Meanwhile, the Ninja who could have also killed a pixie before those two opts to try to Critical a slime instead. It's pretty smart but I have no idea why it decides to do these things, but I'd try to have at least one Bow user >>93632 It increases your chance of Initiative (a free turn) on encounters, very significantly at that. Back in the THF bone glitch days I piled it on my MC and it felt like a flat 25% or more increase without it even being maxed.
>>93632 Lowers your chances to get ambushed and increases your chances to do the ambushing. Can't go wrong with putting it on everyone, same with the detect passive Bakesh gives.
>>41527 Follow up on my previous question, I found a nice enhance script for 8chan that support nested replies if anyone interested https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/533067-fullchan-x
>>93793 You use hiding to go into stealth, since you can't inherit concealment anon has to be talking about hiding
>>93925 Oh wait, i fucked up names, i'm just stupid :)
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Used all my gold getting part of my old equipment to +15 I have no idea how I'll pay for the ebonsteel upgrade I'll do in the future
>>94039 >Going to +15 on anything before Ebonsteel You can pay with your body... Or use enhancement inheritance to recover part of the cost
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>>94185 Have you seen the prices on ebonsteel stuff? I thought the cost for steel equipment was steep, but the next tier is even more expensive At least the drops haven’t been good so far, so it'll take a while before I even think of replacing my current gear and their blessings
>>94185 With armor it doesn't really matter, a good iron piece is only very slightly worse than a similarly lined ebon piece. 100% agree with weapons though. Not much point in working on whatever the newest tier is.
I missed you, guys. Shame we can only be in this godforsaken place.
Am I missing something with Den of Earth? I thought I would go get a few pieces of earth equipment to make the port town go as smooth as possible but I just ran that place 3 times fighting every enemy on my way to the boss and not a single piece of earth junk. Are the rates really so fucked or do I need to progress the story more to turn up the difficulty or what?
>>94439 its just that shitty
>>94439 The rates are bad, and you can also get normal bronze tier shit (crucible). Most earth items people got was through the den dispatches that sometimes are available for a limited time, allowing you to send your dorks to farm for ores and equipment drops for you.
>>94473 >>94480 That's fucked. If I need an elemetnal advantage I think it'd be faster to train up an Earth formation team of adventurers from level 1.
>>94439 >>94541 Important to note that you will never have enough iron ore so none of your runs are truly wasted even if you don't get any earth gear.
>>94575 Eh, the problem is that you have to unfog the map again every time you go there, so making a run there manually is tedious and annoying
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Eto... Why are my daily enemies level 65 when I'm 50
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>>94652 Most just run to the finish while picking up any chest on the way (or fighting any mob for chest drops) Exploring the map again every time is tedious and unrewarding >>94660 Savor it
>>94439 All of the Dens and pseudo-Dens like the new Catacombs are like that - live in there for a week and come out being able to rape whatever's weak to that element with your +10 green piece of shit weapons and protective gear. Den of Earth in particular lets you double up on farming the shitty ore you need the most of, so people put up with it more there, notsomuch in the other Dens.
I just found out you can get alters from the Ossuary bone exchange. That changes things a bit. Would Elda and Ophila be the best picks?
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>>90914 Nice artist
>>94713 eh fire den is alright if you need orange ores which rarely drops in earth.
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>>95175 Agora recruitment in broad daylight, she's getting bold
>>92574 Don't they get more effect from elemental affinity?
>>92494 The one part I don't understand is the Helmut and Octonarus. Are these two mandatory conditions for the heart to show up, or just big friendship sources?
>>92702 I never seen the heart on any bondmate/character in general until i uncapped them to bronze(30-40) of which 5 people instantly got the heart. You do need to tag them im pretty sure, it gets refunded anyway
>>97614 Mandatory
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>>69691 I got two alternate inherits from the masuoleum bones Gandolfo had way of the warrior so I'm pretty happy about being able to inherit a WotW to my Savia
>>97715 Based savia enjoyer. Did the same
>finally read Abenius page 5 story I will give her a big family. At least 9 kids
abenus :DDD
You know, with the rereclass scrolls added, giving Berka, Iarumas, and any future units with unique classes additional classes is perfectly doable now. They don't need to add new scrolls for their unique classes since switching back just requires you to use the new class change scrolls.
>>99459 I doubt characters with advanced classes (or bootleg advanced classes, in Iaru/Berk's case) will get class changes since that would greatly elevate them above everyone else aside from MC. Then again, powercreep is the bread and butter of gacha...
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I forgot to redeem last week's web gems, it's wizover.
>>99459 yeah. hope they add fighter class to berkanan. also, apparently the elemental armor reduction effect are not stacking anymore? https://x.com/CucumisEXO/status/1913704925185687886
>>97715 Oh, nice. Thanks for letting us know. Guess I was just unlucky, good to see there is a possibility.
How big of a buff is Harken's Blessing? 10% or something?
I've unlocked Old Castle Ruins but I can't go in. What do?
>>100449 It's an event type dungeon Don't worry about it for now We'll have the second Old Castle event next month or so I think
>>99607 I forgot to do last week's final weekly mission...
>>99607 >>101188 Savor the Brick.
>Ninja STILL isn't done with training Leveling MC Ninja will be hell I don't even want to grade up because of that
>>101394 Abyss 4 will have a dispatch for T3 exp books, trust the vision
>>94778 There's a few like Gandolfo where even the basic one is good so I'd prefer him over Ophelia, Elda is good too I guess, but I rather just stocked up on Discipline for Kiriha
>>97340 No, Adventurer Bondmates specifically don't. The NPC ones do.
>>99587 The only thing making Iarumas any good right now is Tzalik, his class itself is pretty shit honestly, no Way of the Mage, less MP than actual mages, more expensive Cones spells, can't equip a shield with a 1H sword so he's also kinda gimped as a fighter
>>99607 It has cooldown based on your last redeem so you're not losing "weeks" you're losing "days" at worst.
>I'm used to sleeping rough
whelp I'm stuck
>>102579 You need to find a collapsible floor in that room to fall through.
>>103024 No I mean I'm literally stuck The animation of you failing down didn't load so I was staring at the wall without being able to move Had to forced recovery back
It kind of feels bad not having a story event with the anni. Doesn't need to be as hard as the dragon but even something pixie level except focused on like Alice or Lana or something would have been nice. Maybe the witch will get an event in second half. I guess there's the new Guarda side-dungeon but as a Steam newcutie I'm not there yet.
>>103065 Elmon chapter soon
>>103050 Funny the stuff I looted is still with me, the Hp/Mp/Sp of my party is the same and the map is already revealed yet the npcs have respawed while the chests didn't. I imagined the forced recovery would be like Accept Death.
Well that is surely something Didn't expect to find such things in here
>>103065 it's only half-anni so it's fine
>>103349 I'm looking forward to Llylgamyn arc with the batshit insane enemy chain-spawning rules.
>>103505 You're right, I'm retarded. Idk what I was thinking. I guess it just feels weird not having anything major going on when there was Pixie -> Dragon -> Vampire the whole time since I started.
>>101466 My account is Gerulf seeded. No matter the banner he will show up to say "Hi" once or twice. His skill seems to be a lot better at level 2. I'm sure I'll get it to 4 on the upcoming witch banner. Does anyone know how much the 2H hammer boost is on his skill? Would that damage using an Axe?
>>103349 Wew >another row spell against the backrow in the second turn >everyone dies My fault for not preparing for double spells but even so it's bullshit Didn't know II of Blessings were a thing Also what's the difference between Corruption Level D, E and F? One of the sentries glitched out for me and it didn't count towards the corruption meter so I was wondering if there's any need to check the thing as spotted in the Wheel or not for my first run in Guarda
>>103814 the greater warped one strength depends on the corruption level, strongest at A and weakest at F. i think it still counts as level F even if you glitched one, so take your time and defeat the gwo when you're ready.
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>>103814 multi image posting is very comfy I hope neo 4chan has this feature at least
>>104087 >neo 4chan 4chins chose accept death
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>>103771 I used him with a 2H sword and swapped to 2H hammer. Eruption Strike did over 2x damage with a hammer compared to sword. Didn't go in depth with it, I just smacked a Helmut a few times.
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>>104817 Precious
This part was really well done desu After such a hard fight and the riddle the music starts changing and getting you pumped up for the next part
>Have a box full of adventurers to inherit/discipline >But what if I spend those levels on a character I wind up benching >Continue to trudge through with less power than I would have if I weren't retarded
>>104087 >Neo 4chains >he doesn't know Better get comfy here
I really need to grade up for the gwo I can't fight it with my frontline dying like this to it's minions like this (in retrospect I should've changed from my exploration party to my fighting party but I was already so close it would've been a waste to go back) Sorry Ninja me but you'll be stuck at lvl 30 for quite some time when you come out
>>105237 Fine, where is my 8chanx extension
>>105277 140 eva frontline (for GWO) and 90 eva backline (for the squiggly sentries) is all you need. Granted, I didn't have anywhere near that at 50 and the first pack of squiggers sent me home in a box, so I came back at 60 much later
>>105197 This + "what if I want this skill later". How's Poison Attack now?
>>105277 Whelp time to redo the place with another faction now I'll see about clearing the dungeon another time
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Mmmh yes... smells just like my momma...
>>105197 Not pumping anything outside of MC until the game is too hard to beat without these powerups.
>>105502 Poison got a bit more base damage, but still sucks to land and it's still reduced by RES.
has there been any tests on wild strike? used it on a whim seems to do as much as hs3 now, the speed down still sucks though
>>106666 this is the second Satan get this thread, ominous on topic, I only saw that Alice inherit also increases the slow down turn duration, making it pretty bad if you gave one to MC for example
>>103349 >>106666 I tried it once and it only hit once, even with a one handed sword. Is that right? Would be an interesting niche if it's better for 2H users.
>>105197 >about to start investing in yeka >remember hoodiemage is coming and decide to wait even though i know my broke ass isn't pulling her gachabrain is rough. >>106741 why must agora torment her disciples so...
>>105502 Tested it a bit with level 40 Amelia on plague crewman on ship 1st floor. Weapon is a Bow. Poison attack level 4 (9 SP): Initial Attack: 271 Initial Attack Surety: 540 Poison tick: 46 For Ref Poison attack level 1 (3 SP): Initial Attack: 78 (Took 5 times for poison to stick) Poison Tick 23 Precision Strike level 1 (5 SP) Initial Attack: 184 Initial Attack Surety: 351 Normal Attack: 170
why do the thieves keep calling me pigeon
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>>107946 >In slang, "pigeon" generally refers to a person who is easily fooled or deceived
>>107184 Thank you for test. Can you do same for some other skills? This kind of information should be in our rentry, imho.
What level is the second Abyss recommended for? I'm 36 and might be a bit overlevelled, I heard 25 is a good point so I could run a second team for a bit there.
>>108953 You need to be around level 40 with earth equipment if you want to go past level 6 of the 2nd abyss, unless you have a very awesome party and very awesome luck.
>>108982 That's floor 6, what about floor 1-2?
>>108953 >>108982 40 with earth equipment is overkill, I went in there at 30 and leveled up throughout it It's where you slowly start to need worrying about decent equipment, like keeping an eye out for decent 3/4* blues/purples, getting those with two good stats to +10 maybe, but if you just get some good pieces you'll be fine, even my Chloe and Lana were fine despite being weak to Water enemies
>>109054 I just beat floor 4 and 2 of my party are level 30, one is 26, and everyone else inlcuning MC is in the teens. The asterisk I'll put on that is that I'm using a whole synergized Earth team with stacking passives so my level 15 thief can shoot enemies for hundreds of damage and one of my level 30s is Yakaterina who just drops big AoE attacks. The low HP pool kinda sucks but the takeaway is that it is not even as bad as lower Beginning Abyss
>>109054 It's designed for you to go in right after beating tutorial. 25 is just fine.
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>>109274 >>109054 Put some gravel scrolls on your magic users just incase you get FISH'D
>Beginning Dungeon final boss weak against Wind >Grade up Dungeon Boss weak against Wind >Next Grade up Dungeon Boss weak against Wind >Next region boss is weak against Earth >Final chapter boss is Neutral Is there any reason to not just go all in on a Wind party until I can farm up an Earth team for Waterways?
>>109539 Next dungeon is probably going to be wind and weak against fire, so might as well worry about that too The elemental multipliers aren't nothing, but getting multiple teams to max level requires a fuckton of tags, not even day 1 F2P players tend to have much more than 10 units at 60 for now just because of the tag cost (leveling units also takes a while of course) Best course of action so far is to make just one good team that you do all content with until you unlock the decent exp dispatches in the port town and guarda at least, then you can start leveling more situational characters through that
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>>109625 It's going to be Light! Light, I tell you!
>>109718 Ice enemies, and the new witch is a thunder mage, i believe
>getting 700xp per fight in the new abyss >trash from b5f is giving me 3k per fight in the old one uhhhh...
I just had an Elmon interaction appear in town, might be a teaser for the event?
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Only now finding out that the general got moved here. Neat that it survived 4chan's death.
>>110028 I didn't get the 50 gems cheevo for looking at that lulunussy...
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>>109908 Stop noticing things
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>>110170 oh... uh... steel gear is dropping from them, yay!
>>109908 Base EXP is just one part, level matters a lot as well. Every 5 or so levels above your enemy, EXP gains drop massively. EXP increase per abyss is actually pretty small, but as you level up, easy enemies become effectively worthless EXPwise. This is the reason why people say to not to grade up people you wish to farm since this preserves the high EXP from weak mobs. EXP tracks all the way to max level for the highest available grade.
>>108581 I can try. That was a skill I had readily available for some tests. I am going to change Amelia to a fighter and can compare HS vs FPS... eventually. Need to finish 2nd Abyss and do rank up quests.
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>>110473 >Minotaurs dropping 700-1000 EXP
>>108953 Depends if you grinded out the event weapons. I'm slowly going through abyss 2 with a level 30 party with two dragon slayers and haven't encountered any issues.
how do i stop a "loading master data" loop
>>113210 90% of weird issues like that are solved by logging into the mobile client if you mainly play on PC and vice versa
As someone who formerly played Wizardry, why won't anyone here make an 8chan banner for /gacha/? Lulu's face is perfect, you just need to put some caption along with her smug
>>110028 You'd be surprised, even some niche generals survived. Archives with ghostposting enabled also seem to be a popular alternative.
>>114415 I've seen at least one banner for Daphne, exactly as you described it.
>>114415 funny you say that because that one already exists
>>110028 The worst part about it going down is that now the absolute bare minimum of natural gatekeeping exists, there's nobody in the general to take both post at. It even happened right after I freshened up an old shitpost to use, it's all been very upsetting.
Just beat melgina for the first time and I remember someone saying not to immediately go to town but to do something in port town first instead, anyone know?
>>116469 talk to the old man that you're supposed to save in the middle of the pier to get the mermaid lexicon.
>>92574 So how do these 3 faction quests work? Can I just spam the church one for abyss 2 and the priness one for abyss 3 to farm the books?
Is the best person to feed sanctuarys blessing to the MC or someone with high piety like a priest?
>>116831 When in doubt: MC. Otherwise you can get one every month so don't worry about it to much.
>>116849 Is that a month from when I got the last one or some global monthly server timer?
>>116860 a month since you got the last one.
Wow, the iron grade exam boss was way easier than the lead grade and bronze grade exam bosses when doing it for the first time. Helps that by this point, you have good enough equipment, lots of skill points and magic points, access to shop items and other things of course. Although I was also lucky when my Iarumas managed to score a critical hit with his tzalik spell, doing around 1400 damage with it, most likely reducing the number of turns I had to fight it by two or even three. Still, the other two prior exam bosses had relatively lots of hit points, and you dealt less damage when first encountering them, making them far more difficult to handle, it seems.
>>116800 final boss rewards have a 1 month long cooldown.
>no new skills or spells are gained from level 41 to 50 Wow, what a badly distributed progression.
>>117122 Wait until you see the ninja's level up list.
>>117122 It's so that you don't have to grind 60 levels before you get the most out of a job
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>>117713 Pri-chan is so sexy.
Meanwhile in JP
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f2poor cuisinart when
>>117947 gwo your pickaxe?
>>117940 Yep, it ways wizardry variants daphne 3 times
Guys, a Wizardry Variants Daphne just flew over my house.
>>116901 Any way to tell its available again besides saving the date?
>>118248 finishing the quest and not getting it
>>118248 chore to do at the end of every month (like rent)
>>118248 Send a ticket and hope maybe they make it less annoying years from now.
>>116831 >sanctuarys blessing ?
>>118910 Quest reward for doing abyss 2 church route
Is it worth going straight to abyss 3 after the first abyss 2 win to get ebonsteel gear early or should I redo all of abyss 2 on another route and get the perfect ending first
>>118985 I went straight to abyss 3 and got my ass kicked for a good long time farming floor 1 but it was worth it, blasted through abyss 2 on other 2 routes true end with the new gear. So as long as you can savour the risk for awhile then do abyss 3
>>118985 It's worth going to the new city and buying the new shop staff for your casters, unless you've gotten very lucky with a blue/purple one from Abyss 2 it'll be better at +5 than anything you have just due to the raw Mag/Div
So what is the point of all this unique gear that you get as white rarity? Surely it cant be worth upgrading and missing out on 4 blessing enhancements? Melginas choker or the maneater sword for example
>>119215 The point is thinking 'wow these devs didn't actually finish their systems before they pushed this game out'
>>119215 They're almost useless(especially the weapons which have been outscaled), which is why for the new ones they're starting at 3 star/blue with multiple strength levels already.
>>118971 does anyone know what Steadfast Shield Soldier from abyss 3 does? I know that the abyss 2 one reduces damage w a piety proc
>>119215 There's that ASPD boot that I use even if is 1 star because I can't get a good boot for my casters.
>>119840 It's pretty weak, gives like 5 to the mentioned stats.
>>119840 gives you a meme amount of def/mdef if you're wearing a heavy shield, so pretty useless unless you're building a fortified strike knight
>no hook of harken >cant flee I fucked myself so hard
>>120228 Kill or be killed.
>>120273 Im out of MP and SP, its over I gotta wait 2 hours to get a revive back and hope to walk through him
>>120286 F On the bright side, you can keep retrying every few hours and its bound to work eventually.
I’m lvl 40 and accepted the tag request that spawns in lvl 3 of Guarda…….. am I bricked now I just wanted the 4 tags
>>120530 pretty sure you can cancel the request and just do the one in the first abyss I've cleared the true ending of guarda and still do that because it's the least pain in the ass to get to
>>120552 th-thank u :’)
>>120228 Did you freeze glitch him?
>>120228 >>120643 if that's the case, you can unfreeze enemies by opening the map and turning on auto-walking for a single step
Found you all, well some of you at least. Was able to kill the doll on my first try somehow, but got absolutely destroyed by the eyeball sentries, none of my party has above 100 evasion other than my ninja, seems like I'll be stuck here a while, cant even seem to reliably hit the vampires or succubus. yeah can dilto but even that can miss.
>>120530 >4 tags My weekly in Port Town lands 4 tags and I didn't even beat second cycle ship.
>>120643 tbh I dont know what this means, I just kited him around to get behind him, I didnt think it would be a 1 space wide dead end
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how do i feed ixion the bread?
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>>120688 Try to get some Veil Boots with an EVA roll on them. They have 20 on them by themselves Once you hit 125ish or 75ish backline you can bullshit it with Priest EVA row buff
>>120228 >>120286 Owned. Deserved, even.
>>121033 you forgot your elmon, lawnigga
>>120986 bwo where's the speed and surety on your boots?
Do I only need to do the sahuagin scales quest 1 time total? can I skip future ones with the wheel or should I keep saving scales
>>121354 Sacrificed to the EvadeGOD >>121396 I think you can just change the flag to 'Strategized' next time in the Wheel for it instead of actually doing it
>>120986 Did Shoes always give so much Evasion? I'm going to need to replace my light steel/iron boots with them just for that
So is heavy armor and heavy shields just entirely a flop and not worth looking at?
>>121471 Cloth shoes give 1 per level, Light armor boots seems to give a bit over 1 every 2 levels? (I don't have any at +20), I don't know about Heavy boots because I've just never gotten any worth upgrading for some reason Basically to gear up for the end of Guarda quickly you just want to farm Scaly/Veil blue 3* or better with an EVA roll, alter the other roll to EVA, Enhance, Refine, and you've got at least 50 EVA in one slot >>121636 They aren't optimal but if you roll good substats, you'd still use them. I use a lot of heavy shields just because, for some reason, 4* purples of that variety seem much more common relative to everything else
>>117947 Never. I'd wager on future collab/anni weapons being amazing though. Studly staff is actually amazing for dwarf priest/mages outside of berka It's quite clear that gacha gear is getting stronger with every update look at Gerard's vs Arboris/Abenius/Savia/Rinne gear
>>121636 I believe armor works but at extreme levels - 200 for abyss 1, 300 armor for Abyss 2 and 450 armor for abyss 3. Basically as long as you virtually take 0 damage from phys-attacks then armor is as good as evasion.
Best 4 star mage to level when my main one is yekat? I was thinking maybe flut
>>122127 Asha will carry you through beg abyss for 2nd one, Jarmil
>>122138 I am on abyss 3 now
>>122142 It's Jarmil/Asha anyway just because they have more HP than Elves. I rock Jarmil myself
Do I want low or high corruption for my first ever guarda playthrough? I kinda already walked into the first corruption sentry
>>122565 You kinda have to get full corruption during your first trip
at the deck in 2nd abyss Do I get a warning before forced death?
>>122661 Gigi warns you about it somewhat if you pay attention to his warnings
>>122661 just treat every first encounter as a fourced death, I think there's only 1 where it isn't
Would've been cool to get a limited with Haman spell. Basically it applies some strong debuff on your party but it drains 1 level off a caster.
>>123204 >debuff Buff*
>>120228 Anon, you still trapped?
>>123241 I used a flame to revive and for some reason it revived me halfway across the dungeon, the devs might have known reviving right next to those sentries might be hell
>>123419 Risk Savored! The Masked adventurer wins again.
>Daily exp request upgraded from 5 green 1 blue to 10 blue books I have no clue on what changed for it to upgrade, but thanks i guess
>>121945 John Drecom wouldn't balance future content on these gacha weapons, would he...?
>>124045 We just had a collab where you were SOL if you leveled up past 20 due to how atrocious the dragon scaling was
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>>124625 Skill issue
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>>125295 Begone FOUL WENCH, I only get berated by my alive jobber womanlet wife Elmon.
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>>125351 <Begone FOUL WENCH, I only get berated by my alive jobber womanlet wife Elmon.
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>>125479 That's Wizardry's THIGHS...
ive been playing since launch extracted tens of thousands of gear is the full alteration stone even real
>>126715 Saw someone on reddit post an extraction that had a FAS so I'm sure it's possible. Like you, played since launch and have never even seen one and probably never will with how the rates are in this game.
>>126715 >>127106 Your friendly jeweler has a special pack that has 2 TWO FAS and Legendary bones + extras for only $74.99!
>>127791 I'll wait for another steam pricing error and get it for 3.99 like I did with GWO true ending celebration pack.
>>126715 Israel Played since November, only got one.
Alright so I'm about two weeks into the game so I'm definitely still retarded, but I thought I would mention my thoughts on "safe" investment characters. Which is to say characters you are least likely to regret wasting a good inherit or skill scroll on. I'm posting it partially to help the couple other noobs, but also to give people a chance to tell me I'm wrong or missed something so I can be less retarded. Fighters >Abenius Leveling priest to 30 and then switching back to fighter means that she just has an extra stat contributing to her attack value. Not a crazy game changing one, but enough to give her an edge, which goes farther when you put her with Lana who is one of the best knight options. The free attack once per battle isn't crazy but it is also free damage. Fighters do damage and she has the tools to do more damage, simple as. Gandolfo is worth mentioning here as another fighter-priest who would be the go-to for evil parties, and is certainly easier to Discipline so he can do more damage on more accounts but Heavy Attack is a good inherit so you have to kinda make a decision on your own about him. Not quite the same "safe" pick. Kinghts >Lanavaile >Elise Really any of the Fighter-Knight characters are worth considering because Knights benefit tremendously from WotW and Counterattack so getting an extra level without pumping 9 copies of a character in provides value. The top 2 stand out because they provide a damage buff and they have defense on their Discipline and especially Lana has good bondmate synergy as a fire type for mates like Albano and Jack. Thief >Phillip >Milana Phillip has a great passive that is useful in 100% of parties, arranged in any way in 100% of fights, which is rare to say. Milana provides extra damage to evil fighters like Gandolfo if you're using him. Water is good bondmate synergy for dealing with traps, dark for doing DPS, both are valid options. Priest Honestly, priests are a hard one. The best one is Alice, who is also the best inherit in the game that you want to give to pretty much any and every character so never putting her in your party is a valid option no matter how many times you pull her, despite her being the best priest. The 2nd best would be Marianne who also has a great inherit. Woof. You kinda just have to follow your feelings on this one. Mage >Yekaterina >Adam I'd put Yekaterina higher than Adam because I really hate getting ambushed and even though I still get ambushed with her, any reduction is welcome. Adam's unique skill is also chance based though it can work multiple times in a fight and in fights where you had initiative, I don't really consider the damage resist-resistance to be a factor because just learn other spells, but sometimes taking less damage is better than just taking damage. Both also have good inherits, but Adam's is better.
>>128731 Adam is a complete brick in Abyss 3 due to being floored by Zelos/Mazelos constantly and having Elf Mage HP to begin with. Besides that, Elise / Lana belong under Fighter because they're the best ones (due to row/column buffs and non-whales being able to Discipline them, unlike Abe), and Knight degenerates into a Knight's Defense bot so it doesn't matter who you bring for that at all, kind of a dead class. Benjamin gets an honorable mention for being FISHMAN DEATH incarnate.
Behead all who insult Millennial Lord Adam. He IS the strongest mage.
Reminder: if you let Lulu name you will be harder to identify when something brick and you have to email customer support.
>>128872 forsooth
Caterwaul Crew is now a bondmate.
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>>128855 >>128731 i feel elise's elfness knocks her down a bit slightly because of her weak SP and HP (this is most prominent by 60 where she's 25-30 SP behind a human's), but she's carried by the fact that fighters are just plain good no matter what and that she lends well to any party comp with a very sexy synergy that easily benefits yekaterina the most. i'm a big fan of elise/any melee MC/lana in the front, yeka/alboris/alice in the back she does have an underrated bonus of having substantial enough MP at least to keep your party going a bit longer with a few casts of madios as long as you give her a staff to do that with. but that can take up a precious inventory slot that competes with packing nourishing droughts to make up for her poopy SP.
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why do the nips like these candy stickers so much even saw them made by fans for nikke
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>i'm a big fan of elise/any melee MC/lana in the front, yeka/alboris/alice in the back That's my team except I throw Kiriha into the frontline to cheese out some Criticals and evade things, simply because I don't have the gear to kit out a 3rd Fighter sufficiently. Samurai will replace one anyway, r-right? Onimusha collab when?
Have Arboris Eat dupe Arb Lv up MC's A.Break Have both of them A.Break with a Rinne adjacent
>>129952 How do I build a kiriha properly? I have never leveled a ninja Best boon? What to put stats in, what weapon type to use, whats the crash course on ninja
>>131704 It seems you should invest in strength but if the crit kills are affected by luck you could try to be a gamble chad. Luck does affect follow up attack and counterattack so even if it doesnt directlt affect crit chance thats still more chances for it to trigger. Does it affect sentries? Havent seen it proc on any yet.
I guess you can get fire equipment in the den of fire, but are they also steel-tier grade equipment? Is there any nasty surprise one should beware of when exploring the den of fire?
>>132023 The nasty surprise is the upgrade costs.
Ok, so how do you beat the the gambler fight?
>>133051 Deal enough damage without dying.
>>128855 Well, I don't really know what the endgame is like so I'll have to defer to you, but my gut tells me that 1 copy Abe is probably a better DPS than Lana/Elise at high discipline simply because of their Discipline skills being defense focused so Priest Weapon Mastery would give more attack than the strength gains from the "all stats" part of Discipline but I don't know that. Sucks about Adam I guess since I have way more copies of him than Yekaterina but also I like her better anyway so whatever.
>>133051 Ignore the frontline and focus on the backrow Bring bows and spears
>>133051 Getting poisoned by the normal poison also seems to prevent getting Critical Poison, well since you're poisoned already. Example from this live here at 3:10:16 https://www.youtube.com/live/Uz167p3A-cI?si=De0_pLMDMbh_Kpwz&t=11418 Also this dude's channel is about soloing the entire game, madman.
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>>134037 lore accurate maskettoman
>>134037 at 3:13 he still gets crit poison'd btw
>>134154 Well scratch that i guess, i didn't notice. Ignore >>134037 I was blind.
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>>134560 TOTAL GOBU DEATH
>>134560 >Top Battle Locations >Lower Deck 2 Ha ha ha...
>>134560 >greatswords Why tho, did the crossover event pump the numbers that hard or are people just using them for style? Axes are cooler.
>>134560 >Elise >Amelia Soul
>>134560 >no leggo how is that possible? is this only counted named ones only?
bros.... I was on wanderer the whole time... I didnt notice... my fighter is level 27 my wanderer is 45
>>135037 >Top General Adventurers >General i wonder why anon.
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>>135238 The ultimate endgame MC exclusive class unlock will require you to max all jobs anyways, trust the plan
>>134560 Obviously it's not a big game but that battle count still feels low, since I'm already over 1k battles and I'd imagine people in here have like 3 to 5 times as many. Do we know how many people participated in the first castle event?
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>>135238 It's okay anon Wanderer is a great class
>>134560 I wonder who is the least popular character
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>>135324 I don't think I've ever seen anyone use Jean Drecom
>>134560 Amelia made the list! Woohoo!
>>134560 >400 million chests >approximately 3 decent pieces of gear dropped Boat nerf inc
>>134560 >400 million chests >approximately 3 decent pieces of gear dropped Boat nerf inc
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>>123684 >mine still is 7 Green 3 Blue
Is there no way to return to town and heal up after defeating Geuzen before fighting Melgina?
>>135735 None unfortunately, you have to preserve your party mp or bring a bunch of potions.
>>123684 Mine went back from the latter to the former once I switched MC off of level 30 fighter to level 15 knight.
>>135324 >>135380 I see some nips use Jean. It's probably one of the dwarfs. Bakesh and Valdor both have to compete with much cuter alternatives.
So how does the freeze glitch work? And whats it useful for, need some spoonfeeding
>>135839 While inside a map, click the gear icon, then click the knowledge tab It's useful for not getting raped by FOE's, and chest farming in general
>>135839 It's mostly for the third dungeon where enemy patrols are a thing It just makes so everyone is stuck in place (you can still run into encounters if your detection isn't high enough)
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>>135380 I had Jean in my party until the end of the second abyss. Only replaced him because the game gave me a free Arboris from event bones.
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>>131704 STR or SPD (mine is all points into STR w/SPD boon), LCK does not increase Criticals but putting Follow-up on it does via the extra hit. I put Counter on him but I never see it go off for some reason. You basically have to use daggers because kunai don't exist and ninja swords suck. You can put a Bane or Element dagger in your offhand, and the mainhand will inflict weakness damage too. Mine isn't actually built (like, at all, he's basically naked) but has 147 EVA by himself so I just drag him around for Criticals and to EVA-tank while dispelling and using his great full AE ACC debuff which stacks with Mage's. I'm thinking of putting all of the $Mariannecoin into Disciplining him but I want to see how MC NIN shakes out first or if Samurai is better and the SR gets added to the Ossuary or not. >>133797 At D6 you get over +30 to all stats, I think (it seems to vary and I have to rely on screenshots because I haven't done it myself yet), and that's without considering going all the way to D9. It's attainable as F2P over time. The bonus that the 'Featured' stats get on top of that seems substantial, but not enough to outweigh the 10% dmg Luna/Elise give to other characters IMO, plus Elise gets ACC which isn't useless.
So any point in leveling priest mc past 30? Atleast if you arent out of things to do yet?
>>136306 IDK. I just don't think the damage buff makes a good argument for them as fighters in particular. The damage buff is good, but they also provide it as a knight and then you have a knight who provides damage in addition to spamming Knight's Defense. It's more of an argument for Elise so that she can get a buff from Knight Lana and also herself if she's in front of certain characters. Either way, both Lana and Elise are good investments and people shouldn't have any heartache about giving them good inherits or anything like that. I did not realize discipline was so significant though. That's good to know.
When are Kiriha and the newer limited Legendaries like Rinne and Savia gonna get their secondary classes
>>136306 Thank u this is the kinda spoonfeeding I need, someone do arboris next
Wait if I level knight MC up, wont he try to take damage instead of allies sometimes? That kinda sounds like its a bad thing for MC speficially
>>137777 No because passive cover says is knight specific, at least I have never seen my MC cover for someone else passively
>>137777 Those skills are <Knight-specific> so they will only trigger while MC is a knight It's worth leveling Knight on MC for some of the constantly active passives like chance of damage reduction and status recovery
>>137831 Ohh I didnt know that it works that way ,good to know
>>137497 >The damage buff is good, but they also provide it as a knight and then you have a knight who provides damage in addition to spamming Knight's Defense I have an uninvested D0 Knight Lana for this that I swap out the invested Fighter Lana for sometimes, but it's kind of a Tag flex that newer players can't do. >I did not realize discipline was so significant though. There are big jumps at D6 and D9 to stat gains, looking back over screenshots now it seems like ~30 at D9 though not D6, I was mistaken. D6 is around 16 all stats (along with a chunk of HP and some MP/SP)
>>27894 >I am guessing higher level of discipline and high level skills were just required, and I didn't have those. Nah, I beat the event with MC, Gandolfo and Chloe, zero discipline and only MC had Heavy attack 3 and some healing spells from 30lv priest(brought 2h staff for healing sepals) Had decent equipment 2 steel swords +20 and one iron sword +20 There was some trick to fight the vampire you needed to burst his last 1/3 health in one go or he called bats and healed.
>>124625 eh, I beat it 3 times on 0 discipline team it was hard tho - especially first time I tried like dozen times, the last two dragon was like wet paper tho
>>128731 wrong the best priest is Yeka and best Mage Marianna
>>135324 gaston probably >>135380 I used him for some time, pretty cool dude
>>137728 Place him behind your main DPS, get every ounce of dmg and surety you can, press the tzali- i mean astral break button on bosses, inherit a couple of bakesh and jean, and you are good to go. The take damage on allies place is also knigga specific, so it won't proc on other classes.
>>135380 He's my good/neutral dispatch team thief.
>Bring Deb along for Gold ore collection >no chests >Bring Chloe along for quicker clears instead of Deb >chests everywhere and after every fight Fuck this game
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>>140076 who was in the wrong here?
>succubi dont count as aerial enemies ?
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>>125432 >>140076 berk is so cute
What floor is the gold quest in Waterway at?
>>141995 Ship 1
For the undead march exp farming. Do you have to walk through he poison floor every single time or is there a way to skip it. Since cursed wheel reset your map progress?
For the undead march exp farming is there a way to skip the poison floor? Since cursed wheel reset your map progress
>>139574 in your scenario, your Arboris is armed with a bow right
>>142766 describe your steps
>>142766 Just 200 for a inn, cheapskate.
>>142822 >Cursed wheel to 8F entrance to restart quest >Go back to 7F and walk to the harken (stepping on ALL the poison floor) >Go back to town and then 7F, kill skeleton again >Go back to town and cursed wheel
>>142774 Yes, you can also just put him in front of tzalik man with a dagger and dish some real degenerate dps.
>>142880 Instead of walking thru the poison tiles, just take the teleport on the 7f end, it takes you to the 7f entrance.
>>142751 There's no need to walk the poison again The request begins right after you step out of the harken room
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>>142751 >>142766 >Since cursed wheel reset your map It used to not undo the fixed bridges for me. Then at some point it undid them but I managed to fix them again by wheeling back and forth. But now for some reason they're always broken no matter how many times I wheel between random points. This fucking kusoge I swear to god, I just wanted to get to the fountain to complete the weekly that requires you to camp.
>Main hoe vs side hoes
>>143425 All you have to do is Harken to B8F (which you should already be doing every day to grab Nourishings) and raise the two rock piles nearest the Harken, then Harken to B7F. The other two rock piles are only to bridge to the monthly bone or a crappy chest in the south part of B7F
>>108581 I got an Aboris and fed him to my Amelia. Against the same Plague crewman with element advantage. Not super amazing for the cost. Astral Break LVL1 (20 SP Bow) Initial Attack: 478 Initial Attack Surety: 957 Not sure how to test the shorten WT but it triggers. Sneak Attack (10 SP Dagger) Initial Attack Normal/Normal 184, 185 (369) Initial Attack Surety/Normal:382, 186 (568) Initial Attack Surety/Surety: 386, 367 (735) Sneak Attack (10SP Bow) Initial Attack 233 Initial Attack Surety 488 Sucks there is no adventurer to level Sneak attack yet.
If you get a good class change in the weekly jeweller (like Yeka or Alice), is it still worth the gems now that we can get them using the certificates? I mean, we still don't really know how often we're going to get the certificates. Also that exchange shop is going to stay and the "days remaining" only refers to how long it'll take to reset, right?
>>144633 I think milana has sneak as a potential inherit
>>144718 In general, I'd say it's worth 400 gems if it's a new Class and you don't have it yet, otherwise I'd just wait and see if we get more of the new tokens that let you change back to classes you've already been
>>144786 Oh that's cool. I might use my leftover ossuary bones on her then.
>>144718 i guess, its still rng
Newfag here . What do I buy with ossuary bones?
>>144718 >>145145 >>145145 you hoard them till EoS
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>spend all of my gems on Abenis >don't get Abenis >dump $40 on a 13-roll (which is not only an absurd value by itself, but ended up being way more expensive than it should've been because of my currency) >still don't get Abenis >drag my ass through another floor of the trade waterways to get 20 gems from the achievement to get enough for another 10-roll >finally get Abenis >6 BP boonless Having this sort of RNG on top of gacha rolls should be criminal. And now I don't even know what to do with the 88 points I got from rolling, should I go for another 12 to get a dupe or just buy a leggo bone and a normal one?
>>145145 Don't buy anything and just hoard them until you know what you are doing.
>>145326 you are already paypigger, get another one, go for 100
>>145326 Anon 1-4 extra stat points really aren't game changer Be grateful she's 100 Fort
>>145326 Both of mine were 5bp. Don't worry though they will release something that boosts fort that you also have to pay for and is also RNG based (chance to fail).
>>145326 I saw a Japanese Xeet a few month back about a guy getting a 80 fort no boon 5bp Abenius after 100 rolls and raising her. He was actually appreciating her, "thank you for being born" kinda thing. Which makes me think raising a low fortitude character is like raising an autistic child, it will be challenging but in the end it's not really that different from other kids
>>147185 But if you have had two same characters, but one has definitely better stats and fortitude, you would surely sacrifice the inferior one and either eat it to gain its strength, or turn it into discipline food for its healthier superior twin.
>>147185 Outside of thieves fortitude is an irrelevant stat honestly. The only actual brick is vit boon.
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>>147725 they will fix vit in two weeks
We are having so many dead weeks I'm starting to think maybe real level drain can be implemented
>>147185 i had a thought abt this sentiment considering if they would ever release a premium item to raise it. i grew attached to my 90 fort Elise that would be constantly dying and complaining abt going on
>>148335 all they need all hands on deck to squash 1/5th of the bugs for 4th abyss pls understand
Fordraig is BACK Anti-Beast swordlets are so fucking lucky
I cant wait for my broom riding shota mage when arboris' banner ends. He will be op
Fordraig my beloved event, just about time when I ran out of low-grade ores too. Feel good not having to do Earth den anymore.
>>149767 >Fordraig is BACK ????
>>150316 Check the request at the capital, it's back as a perma event.
>>150343 nice anyone killed the boss? it still drop sword?
>>149767 We have Ebonsteel tier hunting weapons now though...
>>150462 can confirm it still drop the sword
>>150631 so fat i only seen like 2 stars green at best
>minor adjustments How ominous. Does 4* Steel drop or not? Is the exp still good? What did they nerf. If it's like before, it's the best farming anywhere
>>151792 No difficulty altar and reduced spawn(?) are 2 things I have noticed so far, Junks still have chances for 4* steel.
Do we know yet whether boon is just free points or actually steals them from other stats?
>>151878 BST remains the same, it redistributes stats. Just look at the lv60/lv50 stat repositories on the jap wiki.
>>151878 >>151912 It gives 1 extra for the booned stat!
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Foidrag is back as a permanent event, why was this such a good event?
>>153570 Easy to farm Blue 3* Strength 2 Steel tier anti Beast sword.
finished abyss 2 and getting my ass beat by abyss 3 so I am taking a detour and grinding up my MC alt classes. Do I just go until I get the passives and then swap off? Havent even look at the active skills, did priest to 30 and getting knight to 35 rn
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>>149767 I already have 3 +20 swords tho
>>153710 Thats it?
>>153649 What about thief, actually usable or is MC basically a fighter machine until ninja comes out
>>153928 Thief and Fighter are the good general use MC classes. I like thief since i don't have Arboris and don't have to use shitty debra.
>>153987 is she really that shitty?
>>154228 Debra is great. But she gets relegated to chest opening duty in Abyss 3 since everything has fucktons of defense and she has no heavy damage options unless you fully invest in her damage. She is also light element so when you get blindsided by a Vampire that Mazelos your row in the first turn, she is likely going to blow up right there. Also her SP passive becomes less impactful as you level up since you run out of SP less often anyways. So she ends up in the middle where she is okayish at opening chests and she is okayish and dealing damage. So depending on your situation you might just get someone else to do more damage instead.
>>154327 So who is the best chest slave outside of arboris then? Talking about the absolutely most min maxed general adventurer. is it the elf girl with a int boon or smth?
I am doing the abyss 2 exp farm, is there ANY indication in the "go on or retreat" dialogue screen for which fight ur on? It has happened many times now that I forget which one I was on and either retreat too early or groan at seeing oar man
>>154347 My guess it would be IQ milana, at max discipline and with a mage roundtrip yeah
>>154370 Lol no. Set up a macro.
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I will Main MC caster(Priest/Mage) even if they'll make martial MC deal Tzalik levels of damage with auto-attacks!
>you can only get the credit rolls by getting the worst endings Buuuuhh
>>153570 The mobs were weak and gave good EXP(probably less good post 50 now) and the sword came at 3* blue 2/3, letting you get a decent weapon with low effort. Each loop of the event gave another copy and each run was fairly quick so you could get a bunch of copies and then upgrade the ones with good substats. Magical beasts are a common enemy type too.
I've spotted a bug, bros. If you use the recover button with a character that doesn't have the mana to fully recover your team, it'll fully heal you without consuming any mana at all
>>154370 Isn't there only 3 stages on that? Just do the first, then the second and retreat I usually could tell which one I was at by the amount of Mp left on my mages
i just defeated helmut for the 2nd time. i cannot restore the harken or any of the stone rubbles. i cant click the look around button either. am i bricked?
>>155888 Have you tried logging out and back again?
>>155918 that fixes it. thanks. jank ass game
Is there a way to tell what element and enemy is besides trial and error? The compendium entries dont show it
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>>155965 No. Even looks sometimes do not tell you. Red Ghosts are weak to Fire and not Water for example. I still can't believe that the FISHMEN are magical beasts and not Demi-Humans.
>>155965 Aside from their names (wind sahuagins obviously are wind element critters, earth sahuagins are earth element, and normal sahuagins are water element), you'll have to try to guess it from the color that the enemy has, but as >>156076 wrote, you still get non-intuitive stuff. There are also of course monsters that are void element (so, no element) like you or Iarumas, example being the common goblins (whereas the red goblins are fire element).
How do I unlock the new (old) event? Also are the anti-undead weapons worth investing a little bit into? Like +10/+15?
>>156497 Go to the capital city. A bunch of adventurer NPCs will comment on the fordraig labyrinth, and then you take a request at the guild to enter it.
what is this Lulunarde Special achievement some nips are saying you cant get this anymore
>>44074 It's me again. Just beat Helmut without getting beheaded his time. there's so many new request and area I feel kinda lost. What's the order for doing these usually? Like which map first or which faction I pick first. Also thinking about replacing Elise with kiriha since apparently ninjas are really good? Where do I fit him in this comp
>>156518 Capital as in Luknalia? Nothing. Do I need to finish Lamp of Malice first or something, if I've started that one?
>>156524 You can do the requests at your leisure, they are all repeatable when you use the wheel, for the abyss 2, people mostly go for the book first since it's a quite nice passive Ninjas require some very high investment in both gear and exp to be good, also they can't use bows, so if you are planning to use him you will have to frontline him. Honestly i wouldn't bother with ninjas until late abyss 3.
>>156524 Well, ninjas are front-liners, so put Kiriha there, unless you somehow managed to get a ninja throwing item already. Kiriha wants daggers, and should wear cloth-tier armor (so stuff like robes and whatever) to increase his evade and insta-kill crit chance. As for the faction you start with, it doesn't really matter all too much, considering that you can after all time-travel now, and get each of their unique rewards. You can go to https://rentry.org/x5xxitrz#missingperson to see which reward you get from which faction, however. The church route seems to be the easiest of all three, though, so perhaps do that first, as the reward from it might help as you as well (assuming you give the skill book reward to the masked adventurer, of course).
>>156524 Pick the Faction that rewards the book. Elise is Earth, you want Earth in Abyss 2, Ninjas are more of an end-game investment class. Elise in front of Yek with a good 2H staff can wreck all of Abyss 2 by themselves, more or less.
>>156563 That might be it. The enemies at the fordraig labyrinth are all around level 35+ or so, so you might need to perhaps also unlock the grand legion port town as well. As for the undead bane weapons, they're bronze tier garbage stuff, so I would not invest too much in them, if I were you. +5 should be the maximum you invest in them. Apparently, the third abyss gives better anti-undead equipment as well.
>>156694 Sounds good, I'm already 40 and on floor 5 of Waterways. Speaking of, on Lamp of Malice, should I run the highest difficulty? I started on medium, and got a bunch of 3 grade junk, and switched to hard and got a 4 grade but also 3 grade, so I wonder if it's a luck thing or if steel only drops on hard.
>>156727 If you're level 40 and have anti-undead nukers likes Yekaterina or Alice, then it is a good idea to run on the highest difficulty (I would only do the last floor of the malice cave, though). However, after you've gotten the skill exp books, I wouldn't bother doing the malice cave anymore, and only send dispatch goons for it if you want the rest of the stuff at the jeweler.
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>all this stalling by adding past events as permanent ones The fourth abyss and the summer event are going to be peak, I can feel it.
>>157261 my only issue with Guarda is how shitty it is to farm, I was hoping the new area would alleviate that, but it's still just a cool lore/side area that's stingy on drops I really hope the next abyss has some solid farming spots, especially because MC will get new classes that need to be manually farmed
>>157438 On the bright side, with the release of a new gear tier they will just make the previous tier more "easy" to farm through events and such. I have a feeling it might still remain a pain to farm for the next tier just so they can push people into rolling for them premium weapons though, hopefully I am wrong.
>>157504 Gacha equipment is unremarkable unless you're shelling out purple bones to fully unify them. Cuisinart has been the only piece
What dispatches are worth running? I am doing the lvl 20 port town one but whats a good second one, any of the none exp ones good?
>>156521 Permanently missable cheevo that you can only get on your first attempt at the save the missing girl quest in Abyss 3. You also get a bad perma level 1 bondmates, too.
I wish the job changes were free. I'd kill for a free Katino on my Priest for example. >just spend an Asha yeah but I don't want to
Even if the old 4chan comes back i'm unsure if i want to go back to deal with horrible captchas before every post and archaic restrictions. Whats your opinion wizbros? It was honestly an eye opener when i realized that things dont have to be so bad all the time.
>>158553 I prefer it here with the same reasons as yours, will probably stay for good as this place is pretty comfy.
>>158553 >No 15 minute Restrictions >China, India are range banned >Can upload 5 files either Video or Image >Video does not have to be WEBM can be MP4. >Everyone on this entire site just talks about the topic than spams EOS all the time. >If there is censorship and controversy it's talked about on it's dedicated thread and not on multiple You can't convince me to go back. It's to good here.
>>158553 I dont really care since the people here are actually sane and act like human beings, though being here is sort of a bubble. How are we going to get fresh new blood to feed the Double Ents with?
>>157674 Cave of Malice until you have the skill xp books is basically it. All of the gold/loot ones are inconsequential compared to 5 minutes of actual farming.
>>158553 I will go to whichever ends up having more traffic. I do miss a lot of the conveniences 4chanX gave. That being said 8chan is fucked up in Poland and has been down for nearly 3 days now, thank god VPNs work here. >>158787 >>Video does not have to be WEBM can be MP4. This was added to 4chan few months ago.
>>158553 I like it here but I'd probably still use 4chan just for some of the /vrpg/ threads and the elona threads on /jp/.
>>158794 >How are we going to get fresh new blood to feed the Double Ents with? I've been roaming 8ch / the webring for nearly a decade, you don't. The best thing you can feasibly do is lurk the 4chan thread and drop a link in the corner of an OC image that you post there, preferably in cursive so niggers can't read it.
>>158877 >I will go to whichever ends up having more traffic. I do miss a lot of the conveniences 4chanX gave. What if that Traffic is 98% shit with endless Meme Spam, Chinese Shill posting, and basically 3rd worlders screaming about Censorship than talking about a topic?
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>doing the beheading bunny request for the weekly >lana gets her head yanked off in an ambush >finish the request and notice she's back at full fortitude Was her demise... but a dream?
>>158947 If that 2% answers my questions faster, yeah I'll deal with it.
use white 4*s or just sell 'em? >>158553 >no salesfagging allowed >no 4mb limit This place is fucking great
>>159220 >use white 4*s or just sell 'em? Sell. Not only are you gambling on which stats they'll get, they won't be as high as if they had them to begin with.
>>159220 Depends. if its an Ebonsteel tier weapon you can use them since you care more about the base stats if you are desperate for an upgrade. Anything else you should just sell or keep for Unify fodder.
How worth is it to get level 3 latumofis on my alice? Is critical poison ever such a big issue that I cant just church it?
>>159394 It's useful for you to not need to run back to the exit when critical poisoned but that's about it It's not that common besides some enemies and traps
>>159394 >level 3 latumofis Once you unlock Powerful Antidote at the Item Shop, you have a 1000g/pop cure that you can carry around with you. Considering all the gold events they're dumping on us lately and how lucrative farming Catacombs is, it's basically free
>>159394 >fail to detect a trapped chest >critical poison gas Being able to simply remove that shit instead of dropping what you're doing and paying a fine is worth it, yeah. Either give it to your MC or Alice if you love her and won't replace her with the next cute priest that gets released.
>>159533 What's the latest development on catacombs farming, still lighting that one candle over and over that spawns slimes and fairies?
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>>158553 Funny how I see this kind of post in every thread I go.
>>159699 I haven't done it or looked at japanese posts for a few days, but it seems like they just never fixed it and ojisan whales who could autobattle it have just been macroing it overnight and getting 3000+ junks and thousands of jewels to sell
>>159746 Based nips
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>>110028 I'm going to need some sauce on that gigalulu, reverse search isn't giving me anything. I know it's probably from xitter judging from the filename, but I looked through every hashtag imaginable and still couldn't find it.
>reject her once >"I hope you die" what is her fucking problem
>>158553 I'm torn tbh. >didn't see any asinine shitflinging after taking my time to read the thread >IDs serve to further deter shitposters >the ability to post multiple files with a higher limit is good <fancy text But at the same time: >no 4chanX like another anon said >when 4chan comes back this thread will inevitably get much slower even if some people decide to stay, until it dies for good and we have to go back anyway >the randomised filenames suck, the unix timestamps used by 4chan pleased my autism as all the images I saved would be left in a pretty chronological order
>>161542 having to write a captcha every single time is already a huge deterrent on me going back but i do miss all the 4chanX features. And yes user traffic will inevitably slow down here making it worse both here and on 4chan which is the most important part on keeping everyone in one place.
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>>159746 How the fuck do you even macro stuff like chests? Won't that fuck even a whale team over time?
>>162008 The Catacombs chests do not have traps lol. And as for the ones that do, once you get enough Detect/Disarm you can simply autoclick the button to open them within 3 attempts.
>>161644 I don't even mind the captcha, it's not that annoying after you get used to it. It is however a band-aid non-solution for a problem that wouldn't exist (at least to that extent) if the mods actually did their jobs instead of letting every board go to shit. I don't know if it even served to slow down spammers as much as it served to annoy regular users.
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This is fine
What should I expect from the castle? Does it have its own mechanics and tricks like an abyss or is it just a reskinned cave with more floors?
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>>162543 abenis :-DDDDDD
>>162614 If you set up auto lock criteria, just nuke everything at the smith that isn't locked.
>>162713 lots of traps to drain fort, each floor has a miniboss, and there's a boss rush at the end of each set of floors made up of the minibosses.
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>>162713 The first and only Old Ruins was like this: 4 sets of 5 floors (Harken safe floor -> maze+boss -> maze+boss -> maze+boss -> boss rush corridor), 20 floors total. The middle 3 floors of each set were very shitty corridor mazes with trap and poison tiles that you had to step through while trying to find the floor boss, with patrolling monsters everywhere. Think of them like meaner exam caves with only one boss/exit. However they weren't randomized, so once the nip wiki put up some maps, everyone simply beelined to the bosses. Then you had to fight all of the bosses again and a couple easier packs leading up to them on the boss rush floor to end the set. Sometimes the bosses are old monsters with new gimmicks, ex. a Charm spamming Scorpion Lady. You had to be strong enough to not have to use a lot of mana or SP during each encounter, have a team of the right elements, and bring lots of consumables to survive each set of floors... or use myriad exploits that existed back then and mostly don't exist now. You were rewarded with lots of gems, and even more gems if you finish quickly enough to get into the rankings. The #1 team last time was purportedly a tester for Drecom and they didn't care that he won. Because we share the server with the ojisan whales who know what's what by now, don't expect to get a good race ranking if they bring it back how it was. Also, if you died, you couldn't use flames, you had to restart from the last Harken.
>>162870 >>163049 Thanks. Rankings don't bother me, I've played a bunch of gacha so I'm used to whales auto-winning. >Also, if you died, you couldn't use flames, you had to restart from the last Harken. With people still dead I assume? Hope that gets changed at least otherwise I'll inevitably put it off until late hoping I'll get stronger, only to realize I don't have enough time left and not bother.
>>163260 At the time there was an exploit to restart the fight from the beginning if you died, otherwise yeah you were probably fucked if you had low gold. You might want to experiment with alt-f4ing when things go south to see what happens in case a similar exploit still exists :^)
>>163362 I am, unfortunately, a goodboi. Shan't be exploiting, not intentionally at least.
>>163049 What do you think the chances of them having multiple maps of the same floor similar to Gurada fortress this time around? I played the previous old castle and thanks to the maps posted was able to complete it with enough resources. If on the other hand they choice to make multiple maps I'm not even sure I'll even bother... And considering the Scorpion lady fight on floor 19? was similar to the doll boss, I'm not looking forward to the bs they'll pull this time around.
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>>164170 >multiple maps of the same floor High. Along with putting either the doll or the dragon in the last boss rush, or fuck it, in the same fight together just to be dicks Personally, I hope the last floor is weak to Dark so that doing Catacombs and Unifying all of this 3* green garbage is justified
>>144171 I only found out about the nourishing draughts because of your post. Now I feel dumb.
>>164513 Go up to B6F from B7F and get the Mimic Cum while you do that, if the daily timers decide to line up. You never know when we'll have to bukkake another dragon
Doing the urgent quest in the third dungeon isn't even necessarily hard, but it is so much slower than doing it in the ship that I can't bring myself to do it there
>>158553 I'm perfectly capable of shitposting them both, and honestly 4ch is my hellhole, it was made for me
>>165129 Still "slow" but get the one right near start 4 times. 2-3battles each run back. Catch my ass running around the entire 3rd floor
>>164379 If the light dungeon wasn't such a pain to farm the equipment I would agree with you. With numerous runs through their and only getting like 5 pieces of equipment I'm burn out. And I can't/don't want to mindlessly grind like the others since the enemies are so tanky.
>>165622 Yeah but that is what I have doing for them already. But in guarda you have to walk all the way to the stairs, then wait the slow transition, then either fight or wait for the mob in that small corridor, then go down stairs again, fight an unavoidable fight, then you get to the quest mob. After that you are still not done because then you have to get up the stairs again, avoid the mob again if you didn't fight it, walk into that extremely fucking slow (even more so for some reason) animation of falling down the hole into the harken area, and only then you can retry. If I was in the mood to play more I would do it, but these days I have only been doing my dailies, and doing it in this ship is like 10x faster. I will take the 12k gold hit, it is fine.
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>>165812 I'm talking about the Catacombs chest spam exploit that gives you enough Dark shit to +20 every single piece in a couple days. Light gear already has a use against vampires but yeah, I couldn't stand farming it either and one FPS kills them anyway, so... too bad Adam... stay on the bench lil bro, no armor for u >>165861 The worst part of the Urgent is that if you can do Guarda, you can just get that much gold in the same timeframe by farming loot somewhere else anyway. I stopped doing it
>>166245 Gotcha, yeah forgot about that exploit. Adam has helped a lot for me in the 3rd abyss as now I can consistently resurrect on the first try now lol.
>4chan isn't even back yet >this thread already slowed down to a crawl grim
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What if the duke used his brain and planned a way to open the gates from the inside AND outside...
So i forgot that i have 100 gacha exchange token from the collab gacha and didn't exchange them and now the collab event is over. What should i do?
Huh, when did Madios go from costing 10 to 7MP?
>>170039 Why would you design your impregnable fortress to be opened from the outside? Do you want it to get pregnant? Because that's how you let your enemies run a train on it.
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>>170734 But if it's so impregnable how did it get filled with GWO jizz and cyclops babies?
>>170868 The warlock plap magic is just built differently.
>>170698 Lastest update or do since people complained it wasn't worth using it over Latumofis after a certain level
>>162857 screenshot your criteria please
>Forgot to exchange my 100 Blade & Bastard gacha token What the fuck guys? Are my 100 B&B tokens and B&B exchange page will disappear forever?
>>174971 >>170145 Gone forever
>>174971 garbage ate 'em.
>>174971 The ultimate brick Suffer and cry
Hmm... think I'll skip the gold quest today...
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>>175796 <Hmm... think I'll skip the gold quest today...
>>174987 >>175471 >>175498 What can I do to help myself cope? please help
>>176031 Open an Inquiry about it Maybe the devs can help you out
/wizg/ is back on reg chan, see ya lads
>>176031 You can listen to everyone else and spend them when you get 100 like we said a million times to different people. Now you lost them, forever. Cry to support and maybe they will help
>>176514 >2 minutes cooldown for ANY captcha try. Fuck that shit.
>>170145 >>174971 Don't they carry over when the same event reruns? Or am I remembering wrong?
>our system thinks this post is spam, please reformat Guess I am staying here
>>177266 >bad gateway error on the captcha >connection error while posting Maybe we should all stay.
What's the maximum amount of gold I can lose sleeping in the stables?
>>178356 all plus a kidney
>>178622 Do I get adventurer tag from the guy whose kidney was stolen at least?
>>178644 snatches your tags too actually
>>177043 Nope, I had like 40 from the first Wlana banner and they never carried over with her recent rerun because it's labeled as [Reminisce -------] >>176031 Ask support and be very nice. I might do so as well because for some reason I bulk sold my 3 fucking sabers that I'll never get back despite me never hitting anything above IRON
I'm getting bad gateway issues when trying to get a captcha on ye ol 4chan, so I guess I'll stick around here for a while longer
>captcha every post >errors getting captcha Yeah nah bros, I'm staying here.
>>179868 >>180202 fucking same not even captcha, just BG
>our system thinks your post is spam I think halfchan needs a few more days to cook.
Honestly, the only bad thing I can say about 8chan is that it takes roughly one million times longer to expand a thumbnail. Everything else here is better and I'd take a slower board/thread for the upsides
>>180315 Yes its annoying. I will lurk both boards until 1 dies. Because just as we learned. Putting all eggs in one basket is a bad idea seeing how people were lost in the confusion of not having any place to go after the blackout.
>>180315 Lack of x extension hurt but having Id is nice.
>>180914 But there was several of them here. FullchanX and Lynxchan extended minus minus are most mentioned ones.
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NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
>>182873 driggabros...
>>179868 If you wait long enough it gives you a link to click on which fixed it for me.
get alice inherit to level 3 or get it it to level 1 on yekat and save an alice dupe for someone else in the future?
>>184250 I got it to level 3 on Alice and regret it somewhat, but only because I only have 1 more Alice left to shove into somebody else. I doubt Alice is going anywhere anytime soon if you utilize her row debuff (mine hits Yek and Arboris)
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>>173430 95% of items are pure junk/cope/uncap fodder. I DO wish there was a weapon tier criteria. So after my ruins goon session, I review 4* items and unlock any crap. Next it's to the blacksmith to watch him destroy 3-4 star items with mods and sell whatever is left at the shop.
>>181476 could not make them work on my win7 machine
>>180202 taking me 2 minutes to post. skip me on that shit
So now, we are Master Adventurer with a Mask.
>>184250 Alice's inheritance skill is too good now on anyone that use a buff or debuff or has unique skills that apply debuffs, so shove one on Yeka and save the other one. You can also use skill exp scrolls on Alice if you like her alot.
>Avare greets you with two sexy catgirls standing at his sides just to show off how rich he is Damn.
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>>192268 Debra is sexy too!
>Ninja is finally at max level I can now play with him
>>192268 We also have cat girls, Ms COUNTERATTACK and good girl Chloe. >>192745 Enjoy your instant kill, it's always a nice surprise when it procs.
>>192775 Thanks I'll give him a spin
>Berkan learns Lahalito at Steel Grade Girl just not that bright
>>194169 And what do other mages learn after lvl40 thats just as or stronger than all-row-aoe?
>>194265 So far nothing really Mages just grade up past 40 to get more Mp
>>194376 Well then! Slowed progression of Berka is actually not a problem!
They better give us something next week since It's gonna be Golden Week in nipland. >inb4 here cerebration packu, you pay up goyi-i mean gaijin.
>>197609 They should have had cute girls trapped in the cum all over the walls
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You have been saving for her, haven't you anon? It would be a quite regrettable if you forgot.
>>199517 she'll be easy to get. it's whoever is coming out with her that you have to worry about.
>>199517 I would have save if she isn't green, I don't hate fairies but I especially dislike green ones thanks to a certain game.
>>199517 Why does she have evil rape eyes?
Never trust the F*y
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>everyone went back
>>202324 The jews are right about goyim, sad but true
Both threads are rather dead actually
>>202324 I've got both sites open.
i have nothing to post about tbh, its all just farming for junk then selling/extracting the junk to make space for new junk that will be sold/extracted...
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>>202875 Same, and I'm not posting in either thread.
Huge if true
Time to fight alongside Knight Elmon now Isn't the Princess a bit too old to be playing with little boys?
>they still haven't fixed the white screen
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i hope i can d9 her soon. she's so useful in den of light.
Horray, my entire party liked me enough that all five of them complained about traps at the tavern at the same time.
Don't forget your weekly gems at the online shop bros. https://store.wizardry.info/
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Has anyone tried going over 7 ATK nodes in Well of Mind lately? It used to just bug out and give you zero ATK if you went to 8 or more, but I'm wondering if they've fixed it. I don't want to lose a day of farming bricking myself to check hehe~
>>212221 I can only manage level 4 on the mind attack power up.
>>213303 It's randomized each reset. I had 10 ATK nodes on the board so I was thinking "surely they've noticed and fixed it instead of having people brick themselves", but then I remembered this is Drecom...
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New version update soon, probably is the Witch update.
>>220581 >Witch update Didn't they say: "Early May"?
>>221978 I just based it on the version update pattern, like every round version(1.x.0) update has a new character coupled with it.
How does bondmate synergy work? Is it just mystery amount * bondmate stat if the elements match? Are there any notable combinations worth aiming for?
>>224751 I thought it was just x2 stats for matching Element There's a Dark ACC one that's nice for Kiriha
>>225436 is it really double? Philip/Viviana + Mel for trap disarm must actually be strong then
>>225465 You mean Olive for Mudd's Detect Up :^) Disarm is a skill issue
>>225516 my IQ boon $Milanacoin....... i just realized olive has detect way up on her discipline too
>>224751 It should be twice as much. It doesn't work for Adventurer bondmates at all though. So you can't feed your Asha with Asha for 10IQ - it lands 5 still.
Well, gots me some horned eagle sword that I united with other dupes, now I'm stuck at +19 because I don't have any gold ores.
>>237728 To the Den of Light you go. You're gonna live in that too, just like me farming for decent swords(the junk rate is garbo).
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RIP catacomb chest grind.
>>241210 Wtf Drecom, they really don't want players to have any easy grind spot in Abyss 3 at all. Can't have shit with this backward-ass company.
>>241210 I'm still happy as long as they don't fix the enemy freezing bug.
>Anniversary part 2 >it's just a standard character release supply drip based... so fvcking zased...
>>261827 Esteemed customer don't forget the new packs in the shop *wink wink*. I'm always ready to surf.
>>261827 Anniversary is in half a year from now albeit
Finally got enough Debs to inherit to Amelia. Level 3 is a 5 attack power increase.
>>204513 what's her problem?
>shop has been broken for almost a week straight now unless you're a japanomancer and think to set your local clock to a time between midnight and JP midnight what the fuck are these retard devs doing??? It's at the edge of not being funny anymore.
>>285265 It used to be even worse for me because daily supply reset and daily mission reset were using JST and local time respectively and the offset was causing all sorts of weird behavior.
>>285600 I don't understand why they don't just have everyone reset off of JP midnight if they're not competent enough to properly stagger it based on region.


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