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/zzz/ - Zenless Zone Zero General Anonymous 05/19/2025 (Mon) 14:38:07 Id: 3722d4 No. 387521
Previous: >>384915 >News Version 2.0 Special Program live on May 23 at 19:00 (UTC+8). Agent Record | Ju Fufu https://www.hoyolab.com/article/38461795 Agent Record | Pan Yinhu https://www.hoyolab.com/article/38438458 Agent Record | Yixuan https://www.hoyolab.com/article/38438088 Version 1.7 "Bury Your Tears With the Past" Special Program https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAzTZrHSz64 Xbox Spotlight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCc9NxAEVys >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7S3fTAZUgk (EN) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REjNV-Q4YQo (JP) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWbFXxzHxk8 (EN) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtPVxkHoYTA (JP) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr2Uuba41nI (EN) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN8NSPmcJSc (JP) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Qire8nMUg (EN) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wA2KPzhCS0 (JP) >Upcoming Events for 1.7 https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/155604 All-New Program 04/23 - 06/05 Say It With Flowers 04/23 - 06/05 Bangboo Bash 04/27 - 05/12 Savor the Flavor: Citywide Delivery 05/02 - 05/19 Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 05/07 - 05/12 "En-Nah" Into Your Lap 05/14 - 06/05 Springtime Snapshots 05/14 - 06/05 A Tale Through the Looking Glass 05/19 - 06/05 Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 05/31 - 06/05 Livestream at May 23 at 19:00 (UTC+8): https://www.hoyolab.com/article/38864044 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online) https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption ZENLESSGIFT ZZZ17TIMOTHYRANDY >Resources and useful links https://rentry.org/zzzlinks https://rentry.org/ZZZ-drawpile https://rentry.org/ZZZFriends
[Expand Post]>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
wife
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The bake
>>387515 Resonaboo?
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How are my /zzz/iggas doing this fine day? Doing anything fun? Any interesting leaks or changes to the new patch? Any fun movies?
1 for me
>>387543 I don't like watching movies, it requires too much brainpower and attention span.
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YOTERASHAI MITTERASHAAIIIIIIIII
>>387553 BurniceGod I kneel.
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rolling new bread id color
>>387543 I'm rewatching Devilman Crybaby today, forgot almost everything about it except the ending.
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Anbibi (plural)
>>387460 >apparently giggers have been begging for loadouts for years so its highly unlikely Shame. >>387491 >lv60 quests for mats The only way they're doing this is if they raise the lvl cap of the characters as well. No reason to give us more resources for free specially when the BP exists. >photo mode in combat Photo mode would be cool but not in any combat imo. It would be nice if they reworked the training mode with more features like more enemies (including bosses), the possibility to swap gear mid-training, more scenario options and then and the photo mode as an option there. >>387501 1:2 during combat (including buffs, core passives and everything else) is the ideal ratio for every agent, unless you're already capped at 100% CR, but then it's a matter of CD vs. ATK%
>>387543 Getting around to attack on titan the final season. I watched season 1 and 2 weekly but season two's cliff hanger soured me on keeping a close eye on it so I've managed to ignore spoilers for years and I'm watching the last two seasons now.
>>387537 Oh, I guess that would be Devilboo.
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JUMP
My irl Kot is jumping all over the place and I don't know why. Is this a sign?
I think Endless Tower is still the better metric for judging actual agent value. DA is just too shillmaxxxed for me to take seriously as a true endgame mode.
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>>387601 She's coming anon.
>>387537 >>387590 No I was talking about resonaboo, the one that makes a black hole
>>387581 Training mode in gachas is intentionally kept in shit states to diminish effective metafagging. The less you can optimize/gage the value of an agent the more the novelty/shiyu shillbuffs will alter the percieved value.
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>>387543 I'm watching finished anime from last season, also I'm watching it while preparing mats for Jufufu.
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>>387594 This gives me such high hopes for Seed but also it will be disastrous if the bangboo event is a cooler big robot than the agent
>>387543 I got a model kit coming in the mail today, so I'll be building that when it comes
>>387543 Im just doing the other 8 gachas I play.
>>387631 >playing 8 gacha That's some heavy gambling addiction lel.
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>>387597 harumasa is SLACKING
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>>387543 Finished reading the manga; "Call of the Night" Now depressed. Hoping 2.0 has some great content and I get Yi Xuan early along with her W-Engine.
>>387637 0 gambling actually. Ive spent 0 across all of them.
Rape the Kot
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Which S rank Bangboo is worth 5 starring? I already have Snap at 5 star and all of the S ranks bangboos collected. I'm thinking Robin and The Agent Gulliver maybe idunno lol
>>387553 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. DON'T PUT SJAL OUT OF A JOB. SHE NEEDS THE MONEY. >>387566 Very nice, I watched that new A24 movie Warfare. I actually liked it a lot. Kinds like Black Hawk down. >>387582 A lot of my friends started watching anime from AOT. The maneuver gear is so goddamn cool I love how it looks. >>387616 Unfortunately Jufufu isn't in my pull list. I'll have to see what I think about Yi Xuan when she comes to live. I might prefarm some of the skill chips. >>387620 I love making model kits. I still need to finish a Lancaster bomber. >>387631 Bossman I feel like at that point the characters are gunna meld together. >>387643 Call of the Night is such a vibe. The detective lady is so goddamn hot it's not even funny.
>>387644 Still gambling, your time......
>>387645 It would be perfect if I got kotted in jufufu banner before I got her.
>>387644 It's not about money. It's about rolling. Anyway it was a joke do not feel attacked it was not the intention.
>>387651 Surprisingly not. Though I do keep forgetting sparkle is HSR originally and not hi3. Now, the different control schemes do getting annoying but im at the point where most of them are autoable
Suspicious man?
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>>387539 >>387557 i'm so happy to have contributed sovla you guys like and repost
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>>387648 I'm aiming for 5 star agentboo because I always use Miyabi - Yanagi in a team
>>387543 rewatching jojo part 6 after finishing previous part yesterday
>>387648 Rocketboo Plugboo Bangvolver Resonaboo Only because they help you to proc anomaly. And Snap gives a good buff. Rest is really situational.
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>>387673 I always make sure to save /zzz/ sovl
>>387661 I getcha. Idk I don't really mald at any of the rolls, mostly I just roll with whatever luck I get and make do to play the game. One thing about genshin and zzz is that free/standard chars have been and still are excellent.
>>387671 Oh fuck off, it's just this again
>>387612 Sounds good to me. thank
>>387659 I've lost all my 50/50s and didn't get a single kot. She needs rape correction
Is Bibi/Grace/Nicole good enough for Ele weak stage?
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>>387684 you will earn free polychrome and be happy
>>387690 no use Astra, Rina or even Seth
>>387689 Holy kino
>>387689 Ill make Da Wei cry on stream again by not buying anything. Actually mhy has spent a little bit of money on me for physical goods + shipping
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EOUS WON AND ISN'T JOBLESS
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>>387688 I have 3 kotballs now used by Corin, but just like you, not a single kot. I want to create full feline team with Neko, Pulchra, and Jufufu, so hopefully I will get her in my next 50/50 lost. My Pulchra is C6W3 with full upgraded skills, disks and all that. She's a big cat.
>>387709 Seed tesbed looking kino
>>387716 My Pulchra is M4W5, my Nekomata is M0W2, I really hope Pulchra is on Jufufu's banner so I can get the last 2 I need.
>>387699 I have no Astra
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Rolling
Here she is again!
How old is Trigger
>>387690 Yeah, I use Grace, Trigger, Nicole, which should just be outright worse
>>387732 Twenty-seven
>>387722 and you must scream?
>>387732 The exact age of attractive, but infertile, hag.
>>387738 Too much IQ needed for this joke.
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>>387721 C6 for Pulchra is a big upgrade, I feel like she went from B+ character straight up to S character because of +30% damage increase. You can pick one cinema copy in shop right now.
>>387745 >You can pick one cinema copy in shop right now. I already got it. I put 150 rolls into Anby banner for her, and ended up with M2, got M3 from event and now bought M4.
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>>387651 Oh trust me I've already resorted to using AI to gen some things of the detective lady.
>>387732 31ish.
>>387743 It cant possibly be that obscure a referance...
>>387728 >>387740 I started like a month ago....
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>>387732 I still remember the answer, it's 37 if she immediately joined the defense force. So, it's "37 or older"
>hover Bringer >now his face is stuck >okay, just f5 >still here AHHHHHHHHHHH CREATORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR HELPPPPPP
>>387732 Wife aged. Numbers don't matter.
>>387768 Why are older women so sexy
>>387766 Cute You should be fine
>>387766 >No Miyabi >No Astra >No Homomasa >No Knightboo >No Luckyboo
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>>387732 about this old
Jstern said that they nerfed Jufufu so she can mostly be use with Yi Xuan and not other units.
>>387732 29 minimum
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It is now Oni Hours
>>387766 Pull for 3 DPS and supports, trust.
>>387793 That's stupid, why would I even want to use Jufufu with Yi Xuan? There is no point to that. I have tons of better options.
>>387816 Because Mihoyo want you.
So close... I'll do it for you, North.
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>>387766 Ganbate onii-chan
I did it!
>>387841 Grats Now post your rainbow shiyu and da clears or you're out of the /zzz/ guild
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It starts with...
>>387846 Anon... I was never in...
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>>387841 gross. Take a shower sweaty.
>>387822 But she doesn't have any benefit. My Astra C2 gives Yi Xuan above 500 Sheer points. Pana gives her 540 Sheer points. Ju Fufu doesn't do shit.
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I miss Venus...
>>387841 Hey I got that today too Been playing since release
>>387850 Bwo... You have until next reset to fix up your clears
>>387848 ONE THING I DON'T KNOW WHY
>>387793 Jstern said your mother is a whore
>>387858 I hope she appears in china...
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>Let's do my weekly HZ run >Hmm I feel like playing mono electric this week >Hugo >Red Pompei >Randomly Razor I miss withering garden so much bros...
>>387759 Superlative taste
Nagi doesn't smoke
She smokes red bean crack rocks
How do you stop yourself from accidentally pressing space on your last team member? I keep accidentally switching to Hugo wasting the Hormone Punk buffs
>>387887 doesn't stop her from being smokin'
>>387880 >my reaction to that information
>>387841 So does my EXP turn into dennies now? Please? Pretty please with a Nicole on top?
>>387908 Nah it goes straight into the ether
>>387904 Astra/Vivian/Jane is crack. Really any Astra/Anomaly/Anomaly is fast as fucc boy. Attackers are boring by comparison.
>>387806 Oni fucking hours
>>387793 she gives 80 crit damage I'm pretty sure she isn't useless
>>387582 You might regret this. >>387651 >A lot of my friends started watching anime from AOT. The maneuver gear is so goddamn cool I love how it looks. For a brief moment in time, the AOT gear was in Fortnite, and it was fun as fuck to use. I hope they add somebody with a similar gimmick here.
>>387926 >80 crit damage That's false. She only give 50 when she is build right. The last 30 is something any stunner can have because it's a disc effect. She ha nothing going on. Lighter's ball alone has Jufufu build into it.
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>>387880 i might've agreed back when bringer was the required boss but now with gepetto? FUCK withering garden
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>>387732 The correct age
>>387848 Someone should do one of these for the Vivi balloon posts too
Just watch this be a competitive option for YX in DA runs if they don't change the bullshit 50% HP condition on the new budget rupture engine.
Getting kotted isnt so bad
>>387947 >>387880 Do you guys seriously have trouble? Are you doing it only on the max difficulty or what.
>>387957 KOT YE GONE
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>>387884 I would do anything for her
>>387954 I can't believe his 8chan legacy will be a balloon.
>>387959 i don't have trouble with current HZ, bringer just made it feel a little more annoying compared to gepetto thanks to the whole 'if you can't break through the shield+health on the hand real quick have fun waiting' thing, at least gepetto's running/group of enemies thing is consistently something you have to deal with nineveh will always be the queen of annoyingly long filler sequences though
>>387957 >Sex so bad you need to play on your phone to not fall asleep. Kot is good for nothing.
>>387908 >Pretty please with a Nicole on top? As if you could afford that
Guys whats the talk about this balloon
>>387963 Post M6W5 Nagi
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banging . . . BOOS!
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I fucking love oni
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>>387976 the QRD is an anon blasted rope on his monitor and curtains while licking a balloon filled with hair gel and dipped in saltwater to simulate Vivian sideboob and pits. Balloonfag is our strongest gooner.
>>387990 Oh lmao
>>387996 What the fuck is that thing
good ID?
>>388000 An onahole
Shiyu run spam will continue until morale improves.
>>388001 nigger!
>>388004 And the other one.
>>387995 The most important part is that he left it to dry on his monitor.
>>388008 Such incredible speed...
more like lord GAYthon lol
>>388009 Gotta keep Corin busy
>>387926 Doesn't she do other stuff like crit rate? >>387969 Oh I thought you said you had problems with Gepetto. Even with a mid comp you can still do most difficulties on him so I was confused. >>388001 >Pulchra the best ID
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Where… is… Alice…
>>388034 Alice pullers when they lose the 50/50 to Kot
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>>387977 Iunno man
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>>388011 I'm pretty sure I can go faster. I'll give it a day or two, in case I'll manage to pull Lighter's ball before it rotates out, but the first fight can be improved by giving Astral to Astra and Swing to Lighter. The second fight, I'll probably try running Miyabi/Lycaon/Nicole. Mibibi should have enough damage to kill Palicus, so it's just a matter of stunning them quicker. The clear will be slightly slower but the fight with the boss should be much shorter. We'll see.
Would AstraLyn be a public scandal from the PoV of citizens in New Eridu
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>>388034 Can someone explain the connection between this pic and Alice? She's the big corn in 2.0 right?
>>388048 aren't they already shipped by the public? if anything wise suddenly appearing between them would probably cause a bigger scandal
>>387732 downgrade
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>>387543 >Any fun movies? Watched Zardoz for the first time. Fascinating movie
>>388051 Black Souls reference
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>>388051 >She's the big corn in 2.0 right? Nyes.
>>388052 only their fanatic fanbase ships them
>>388052 I play as Belle chudbeit
>>388077 Interest in Alice dropped. Unnamed stoat thiren with a cool hat is my new best friend.
>>388087 Issa raccoon
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>>388064 Ahh I see never played it >>388077 >>388089 I want both these
Gonna repost my thoughts: So is the implication that ATK itself isn't used on Rupture agents? Because if it isn't, that's kind of a shit ratio. Level 70 bosses take about 45% damage after their DEF, which would make Astra's 1200 ATK buff equal to the Panda's 540 and we have ATK sources all over the place. Having sources of PEN and DEF shred pushes that higher - Nicole makes enemies take 58% damage after DEF. I guess the idea is that Rupture agents have Sheer Force on top of their existing ATK, and the initial base chunk is pretty huge as well? But the current scaling seems to be on the conservative side 2bh.
>>387959 I don't have trouble, it's just annoying to pick a team and then get paired with a bunch of bosses that are resistant to your damage. Gepetto himself isn't a problem
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>>388081 well i don't think the regular public would give a shit either way honestly. so really it was always gonna be from the perspective of their fanbase >>388082 a lesbo trio just isn't as divisive as a bi trio making the girls 'technically straight', i dunno what to tell ya
What are your reward predictions for ZZZ spending event HSR had a 5 star character and 5 star lc alongside profiles cosmetics and other things We know ZZZ will have a Miyabi skin bit what else
What title do you guys use
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well /zzz/?
Rolling Coco ID
>>388114 poor girl, SEA?, i can understand
>>388111 One McDonald's BigMac coupon for each account
>>388111 Free cunny! If they are going to make her as weak as 1,x stunners, they might as well make her a free loli.
>>388117 Yeah, sure
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>>388116 it amuses me for some reason
>>387709 I hope this is not just an event but canon in the main story. The proxy glazing will finally be justified.
>>388114 Mosquito? More like Wise bite marks
>>388114 i don't blame the mosquito I would do the same if I can
>>388127 >another man's housewife pussy i'm not in favor of this
>>388134 It's literally just an event It was one of the first things that got leaked, in fact
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>5cec97 >Astralyn shipping >I play as Belle >Thoughts on the HSR spending event guys? I think you should go back
>>388116 Level 60 one because it's somewhat rare. I'll switch back to >>388131 for obvious reasons.
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>>388114 Lucky mosquitoes
>>388130 With Eous getting murdered, I think it's time we accept a tiny tanuki in the party Bangboo slot.
>>388138 It looks too good to be just an event..
>>388123 what do you call this body shape....
>>388139 This place is more usable than halfchan
>>388114 Someone give magic potion to Bibian. will remove the itch and pain. and drive away mosquito.
>>388130 If she's a Tanuki thiren...how big are her nuts?
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>>388139 This shit started late last night for some goddamn reason Don't know why people still aren't over the division
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>>388117 N-no, definitely not ha ha.
You fuckers told me Nicole was a good person... No wonder she "helps" all those orphans...
>>388117 You called?
>>388156 why's your twigga so edgy
>>388095 Hey, she has the same figure as my nodded Belle!
Any Hugo rollers? Can you post your builds?
With 2.0 a lot of new players will likely be pulled in. Think there's any chance they'll do reruns of the event boos and balls, with a prize for people who already have them?
>>388117 I don't consider myself to be a lolicon, I prefer to think of myself as myself.
>>388164 I guess DeepSeek thinks military = edgy. It's just a first draft, I'll add some more mommy/soft characteristics to Trigger to see if it works out.
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>a date? Sure hun, I'll give you a 60 second head start!
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How the FUCK do I play Harumasa correctly? I do like 21k but I want to do actual big scores. He already has good gear with the event ball + Qingyi
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>>388117 Idk, I don't want to vote Dems if that's what you want to know. I just like petite figures, flat chests, small breasts, shorter frame. I also like curvy women too, but not chubby/thicc/fat whatever you want to call it
>>388183 His dash combos can get kind of intensive so you probably want to watch a guide so you can see how it's done for his max burst
>>388186 >that auto correct that's fucking hilarious
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Corn
>>388183 you have to master the autistic 69 hit combos with manual chain attacks
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>>388181 Post rata1.png and rata2.png NOW
>>388144 Well, it might also be some kind of a test for SEED I guess Would be cool if they made it a permanent game mode or something though
Rats look like this?!
>>388223 Jane seems the type to tell you she got new knives then send this pic
>>388139 Caring which character someone plays is way worse than everything you listed combined thougheverbeit.
>>388223 They do in New Eridu. Imagine if New York rats looked like this.
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>>388203 Um ackshually rata is a jpg and rata2 is a webm
>>388077 I love her
But why do rats look like this
>>388255 peak rat performance right there
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rollan id
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Daily reminder that she's one of the few characters with a higher education Smart rat
Say something nice about my ID character.
Sometimes, I wanna fuck Chinatsu and spend all night cuddling with her. Other times, I wanna do so with Rokudo. Then, there are some days of the week where all I desire to do, is to plap Yutanes little robotic ass. Thats the beauty of men sexual nature; polygamy. I love all my girls, and I love each one for different reasons.
>>388269 >Higher education >Trashed apartment and a smell fetish Yeah it makes sense...
>>388269 I have higher education too i dont feel very smart
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>>388269 >been to college >experienced criminal psychologist >consultant for NEPS >lives in filth and spends her days crawling through sewers what’s her problem?
>>388236 I don't care he plays Belle chief that wasn't the point I was making
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>>388270 I would have sex with her, if you pick up what I'm putting down
>>388264 What is Bibi saying in this?
>>388282 You know what I fuck with it Only because I know it's going to make twitter trannies and tourists screech I can't wait for idols
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Updated character ID script https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/536322-8chan-characterid Now it should be more accurate and on top of that for colors that does not match any character there is now a list of NPCs that get assigned randomly (everyone have the same random) Also interesting thing I've discovered about ID colors THERE ARE TOO MUCH FUCKING GREEN IDS Just look at the image, I've used it to tweak color numbers on how to group characters and which IDs would fall into which categories and which are left as unassigned, there are ~1000 unique IDs from /zzz/ threads
>>388282 >polygamy Cringe
>>388301 Holy god. UPDOOOTING.
>>388301 UPDATED
>>388301 Based. Not even sure who I got
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>>388301 >updated script >post I replied to about sexing Soukaku is now about sexing la ratta You have undone me, villain
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>>388270 She's cute (and deserves shorter animations) >>388285 That sounds like smart people talk >>388283 She's just like you frfr >>388288 She does it for fun. Such dedication to her craft.... >>388295 Something along the lines of: this ball is fine, i just care about being with lord phaeton
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>>388294 >>388317 It was a trap!
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>>388301 nice work and i'm still bibi too haha clearly the true problem is that we need more green characters
>>388116 Nightmares Fading Away
wtf im a rat now
>go from sexbot to sexNPC Can't stop winning bros
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>>388325 I cannot believe I fell for the rat trap
oh hey, I'm Twiggy now
>>388294 What extension is it that gets characters in ID's?
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>>388270 Rat...WONNED
>>388341 >>388301 Well nevermind, guess I'm retahded.
>>388346 Don't worry, we're all retarded here
Enzo?! Fuck.
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>>388301 NICE now make one where we can pick our own colours
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>>388301 Also before anyone asks why certain characters have such colors, I got all colors from official wiki page, they have colored BG for each character and its even called in CSS as --personal-color only Caesar is exception because for whatever reason she had exactly the same color as Burnice or vice versa
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>>388351 > now make one where we can pick our own colours
you didn't forget.... did you?
>>388351 As much as I'd like to be Soukaku every single time, if we could just choose that, that'd be actual avatarfaggotry And I say this knowing I attach Soukaku to my posts like 99% of the time. At least the randomness keeps it interesting
>>388351 Gacha game Gacha thread id character
>>388322 >Something along the lines of: this ball is fine, i just care about being with lord phaeton mfer keeps guilty-tripping me even after her banner is gone
>>388301 Do you think it would be a good idea to add options to remove males/females/furries? It would kinda make it so some people see different characters.
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>>388355 >>388362 >>388364 I take it back... we stick to gacha ID's
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>>388362 Posting Soukaku pics is not avatarfaggotry, it's based
>got changed from Corn to Chinky NOOOOOOOO
>>388371 Based on what?
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>>388365 But you rolled for her, right Lord Phaeton? Isn't that right? It's certainly right. >>388360 Rolling for her no matter what even if she's a brick with that does 0 damage. >>388370 Good choice
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>>388375 Of course I pulled to unbrick Grace.
>>388351 >>388367 Cmon Its just a silly little script nobody gonna use it to laugh at you hahha boomer If you really want to delete characters just delete lines with characters you wish to remove but again whats the point if everyone have different icons
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>>388381 editing the script is grounds for instant removal from the /zzz/ guild thoughbeit
>>388377 Explain though.
The chinki lickcord...
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>>388380 Excellent choice They can now apply lots of anomaly and debate why Lord Phaeton is superior to any machine >>388367 Knotted ingame Knotted in thread The males and furries have so few colors that there's a tiny chance of you getting any of them anyways Besides the threads are fast enough to not matter
>>388384 >>388391 I saw that post and though my ID changed for a second holy hivemind...
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I see your rat and raise you a bat A batrat, if you will
Super Robot Golden Mazinger Eous is cool but I will only accept SEED as a bangboo piloting a robot OR as a full on robot (extra large)
Just get the ones you want bro likle this i'll get Ellen
When you're not performing your duties do they keep you in a little box? Cells. Interlinked. What's it like to hold the hand of someone you love? Interlinked. Do they teach you how to feel finger to finger? Interlinked. Do you long for having your heart interlinked? Interlinked. Do you dream about being interlinked?
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>>388410 >>388407 The Rata always wins in the end...
>>388416 I love the rat too bad she's not very strong.
>>388402 I'm not going to install it anyway, was just wondering, I take it I got Lycaon?
>wake up >see Eous mech gameplay KINO
>>388403 We're Lick minded individuals
>>388387 >join thread >roll character >talk about my character >people see it as different character because we have different options >cringe ensues
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>>388407 But that's a cat?
>>388114 >vampire I hate secondaries
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>>388418 > Bwo? You rolled for her biggest upgrade, right?
>>388416 Funny that i wrote jane at first but changed after the verification >>388418 she's nice with bibi
>>388408 >multiple hints Seed is a Bangboo in a mech >2.0 adds a whole “Eous in a mech” agent with a full kit Ehn neh-nah (Seedboo is real)
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>>388419 You got McDunn >>388418 She's fine, Vivian definitely helps her a lot She really mostly gets fucked by some janky design choices and them refusing to give a single phys weak boss
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>>388433 Bibian is supposed to be for (You) but refused to come after 145 rolls, thus I decided to tell her to fuck off. I'll get the booba chinka. However my Burnice has her ball so it's not so bad
>>388433 >Rolled for >Didn't get I should just make a new account, honestly.
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>>388433 I did roll for Burnice
What they dancin to?
>Jane is good! >if you have Vivian >and Astra I skipped both and just play Jane with Burnice and Lucy
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>>388301 Wait are you really asigning colors manually? Aren't they just based on the ID number so 000000 - ffffff in other words 16 mil + combinations
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>>388422 Lmao >>388424 >talk about my character I don't get why people would do that but it makes a bit of sense I guess I'd just remove all males then but not for me to decide anyway >>388445 WHO
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>>388456 vivian is good with any anomaly, even grace + rina
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>>388458 I hope Bibian suffers eternally in the TV! cheers to Bibian! She had her chance!
Seed is an intelligent construct, bangboos aren't considered that. She could have a smaller body while we fight with the big guy we saw on the trailer, though.
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>>388447 since i've got a bibi ID today i'll once again brag about getting her in my first 10 roll on a fresh 50/50 she truly was made for (Me)
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>>388415 全ては繋がっていま ネズミ子が…
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>>388458 I'll try again when she reruns. Hopefully I'll have some rolls saved by then but I just started out during Vivi's event.
>>388387 LUCKY OR NOT, AT LEAST YOU TRIED CHIN UP, IN YOURSELF, CONFIDE (YEAH) NO DOUBT FATE'S ON YOUR SIDE YOU'RE CHOSEN (SKRRT, SKRRT), SO ENJOY THE RIDE (UH) THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN'T CONTROL FORTUNE'S FICKLE (RING, RING), THAT'S THIS WORLD EMBRACE THE RESULT (RESULT), STOP KEEPING SCORE (YEAH) THAT'S THE ESSENCE LIFE'S TRUE GOAL (WOAH) NOT JUST TRIALS (UH) AND BATTLЕS TOUGH (YEAH) GO TAKING JOY IN SIMPLE STUFF EVEN WHЕN IT'S GETTING ROUGH TAKE IT EASY, HAVING FUN IS JUST ENOUGH
>>388472 pre-mission morale boost
>>388465 Bwo. . .that's so mean
>>388459 Old man NPC at Port Elpis
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Within cells interlinked
>>388460 This song plays in my head whenever i see her... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDLm4xraws
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>>388474 Let's go Nagi!
I think that character ID thing is fucking with Full 8chan X. It used to show me replies with Red bars at the side, but after installing the ID character it doesn't work anymore. :(
what would you do if ur burnie suddenly turned into this?
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>>388477 What's mean is pretending to be a waifu and refusing to come after the delirious number of 145 rolls (!!!) Meanwhile Anby and Trigger came in 30 rolls, really makes you think... Imagine BIBAN plapping her HEAD against the TV screen, crying and STUCK inside, saying "P-Proxy... Y-you will s-save me r-right?" will Trigger and Anby clear endgame for me...
>>388490 My setup is all kinds of fucked now after trying to use multiple scripts. I think I'll just go back to square one
>>388490 Still there for me. But I also have lynxchan minus and 8chanSS
>>388476 Now I'm just distracted though.
>>388497 Hmm, so it's working for *this* thread but in other threads it's not working I don't understand scripting enough to know where the conflict lies
>>388496 You simply haven't sacrificed enough for the banshee.
>>388408 Whether or not there is any intended connection, this event will set expectations for his moveset
>>388496 You tanked 145 rolls and didn't just send it another ten or so for her? Honestly kind of impressed you didn't just swipe for the last ten pull.
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Could someone reply to me real quick? For some reason, each time I was replied to, I'd get a (You)(You), so I tried changing the page theme, but apparently that just erases all (You)s?
>>388502 does it work in other threads? I was in WuWa and it stopped working there
>>388490 try ctrl+f5 might sort itself out
>>388375 >But you rolled for her, right Lord Phaeton? I did not, I don't have Jane or Nagi, and my Piper is cursed still at M0.
>>388479 Oh I thought it's some unknown meme, completely forgot about this guy... >>388301 So you assign colours one by one? Wouldn't it be better to assign some base character colours (BSC) and then use character for which difference between BSC and his ID is smallest? That would automatically remove the issue with unassigned colours.
>>388457 I have a list of characters and their colors, then I take ID convert it to color and look for the closest character color, thats it
>>388473 You'll get her for sure!
>>388509 She should sacrifice for me though, I'm the GLORIOUS Phaethon >>388514 I always decide how much I will offer before rolling, I don't budge bwo, I have a lot of rolls saved up!
>>388515 script issues suck xd
>>388518 It works. But it's because of LynxChan extended minus minus since it has the same feature.
>>388515 I assume it could be two different (You) mark methods intersecting, because by default (You)s disappear if you refresh
>>388535 why does lynxchan default to blue anyway? is it just to be different from halfchan red?
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>>388474 T-thanks for the extra Grace Da Wei. Could you give me literally anybody else?
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>>388529 >>388530 >>388536 I'm only using the character id script, but it started happening before I installed that. Weird
>>388455 https://youtu.be/-mGleRitgQc? >>388488 I want to be “teased” in this manner
>>388526 That's fair but I think 74(?) is start of soft pity so 145 means you're just off a guarantee anyways is all. Just seems like you should stop sooner or take the guarantee at that point but you seem like you know what you're about.
Jane Doe on skates
>>388540 Why do you ask me this question like I know the answer?
I'm at 70 rolls on standard banner. I'll get a new 5* next month bros!!
>>388545 I understand perfectly but since she's waifubait if she didn't come before trve guarantee I consider it wasn't meant to be, SAnby came twice in 30 rolls so she won wifepoints, those are my gacha laws
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>>388556 i just felt like questioning it i wasn't expecting you to have an answer
>>388547 Jane doe is a Florida panther
>>388560 >SAnby came twice in 30 rolls Extremely sensitive cinnamon roll
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>>388571 Gacha rolls are decided according to how much your penis fits the character's pussy or dare I say... anal cavity if it's a male, so if you got Lighter in a 10 roll...
This dynamic kinda funny ngl
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>>388579 >went to pity twice on Hugo Phew
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Man, I wish we had a Fribbles for ZZZ. No, Interknot doesn't count.
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>>388585 AAAAIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
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>>388599 Hugo wants the KNOT, not your pathetic human cock! I actually wanted to roll him but I don't like how they twink'd him out
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STOP LICKING ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>388621 Agreed. The Interknot thing sucks ass. Fribbels is competent and useful.
>>388621 A substat filter would be so good too
>>388632 Whats Fribbels? Genshin stat tracker or something?
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>>388641 Not exactly, Fribbels is a much more adaptable character rating system, also calculates combat efficiency based on the teams you selected. It's better than Akasha (at least from what I remember, I dropped Genshin for ZZZ since I like fat assed girls and edgy males)
>>388521 But thats exactly what is happening (if I understood you correctly) Each character has 1 color assigned to them (some characters as showed in the picture are grouped because their colors are really close), then script look for the closest color and select closest match, but if color is "too far away" from every character then it will select a character from a pool of NPCs that does not have any color assigned to them, its a feature to reduce amount of IDs that appear to be randomly selecting characters because their colors are so different and some unrelated character was the closest from the pool
>>388641 It's a tool to optimize and organize gear, it's pretty good to squeeze the best combination of all your gear
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this one goes out to all the ellen haters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv67-VzqtfY
>>388650 >>388653 I see, that would be nice since most people keep using the meme disk rate site to gauge their stuff and it gets tiring explaining that it's not a very objective measurement
So apparently there's a "PvP" site you can use to do Shiyu runs against people. You get bans and up to three retries on your run, and it's both sides of whatever node you agree on. There's also a point system too if you want to limit engine usage and stuff. Seems neat.
For (Not Joker)Hugo, here is a mix some website made for me a bit ago with Persona 5.
>>388667 post your site bro I'm in
>>388543 I think I was that issue already, it should be fixed already, have you tried refreshing with ctrl+f5?
>>388667 I require the link.
>>388579 What does this theory say about MY penis
>>388684 Let's see if that works
>>388681 >>388686 https://shiyu.darte.gg/ I believe it's this, I haven't looked into it much myself. Sounds like it could be fun though since it can make you play teams you normally wouldn't.
nope
>>388695 >site requires connecting to a discord account It was too good to be true.
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Considering that in yanagi special episodes the hacker man somehow got miyabi's data or something How long until we get our own meebs robot doppelganger akin to metal sonic?
Who makes these chibi vrchat gifs I need more
>>388693 You have sex with boomers
>>388717 bro... the bottom left corner...
Is it possible to do the agent Id thing on mobile? I want in on these happy fun times
>>388719 I wouldn't be surprised if its a lot of Indian guys saying "Congratulations on your work Ellen"
>>388695 might check it out later
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>>388719 ain't no way, the lycaon one can't be fucking real
>>388726 The name alone doesnt mean much without the platform theyre on
>>388730 >Please post bob and tayle on resume, saar
>>388728 only on firefox afaik on mobile firefox you can install same extensions as on desktop
>>388694 >double (you)s Is it the toggle (you) setting on your posts? The one next to delete/report options?
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>>388472 The disarming sexuality of Anbi Dextrous of the Cunnilingus Hares
>>388718 Trigger and Rina are boomers? >>388754 On iPhone… all browsers… are reskinned safari… ACK
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>>388758 Doesn't that just claim "ownership" of a post, me?
>>388769 Not sure, don't know why else you'd get double you even after a cache clear so I figured it was worth checking
>>388739 did you try typing it in google? you might be surprised to find what pops up
>>388693 >Evelyn: 81 You really like those doujins where lesbians lose to cock
>>388474 >scrolling thread >start absentmindedly singing the shining golden sign >immediately see this post spooky
>>388775 might just be another quirk of the website Like how even though I have local time enabled, sometimes posts will update with differing times Or even how sometimes some anons' posts won't even appear until I refresh.
>>388664 impressive
>>388765 >On iPhone rip, but EU will liberate iOS soon by forcing them to open up their cheeks for other web engines and other app stores
>>388712 Try switching css theme, its probably it
She's a big girl
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>>388792 Nice ass.
>>388785 I don’t think I’ve ever read one of those
>>388664 cinematic camera work
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we're doing the stream thread here on friday right bwis?
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>>388798 Well damn, that seems to be it Certain themes have double (You)s and others don't Looks like the soccer one throws in Spanish (You)s
>>388827 >>388827 If you get double mentioned will you get quad yous
>>388827 Why do you have some belle pngs on your posts in this pic
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>>388837 Look at >>388301 >>388834 Well look at that, big guy
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>>388823 Why wouldn't we?
No sex today Youve all been bad bad anons
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>>388301 what does this do? nothing if I'm on the default css right? >>388854 just making sure
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>>388845 Try the best Yotsuba B theme
>>388848 we in real china town now huh
How much of a perfomance increase is M2 Lighter?
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>>388864 Shimapan detected T0T
>>388859 Just add small icons for IDs based on ID color, It should work with any css
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>>388872 oh icic, neat
>>388861 I'm just gonna shop around until I find one I like, which kinda sucks since Avellana was the only one I really liked Might have have to install the 8chanx script to color in my own theme maybe
I want to cuck Zhu by choosing to end my bloodline in Qingyi instead.
>>388848 Is this song from the new area? :o
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>>388881 Anon you fucking retard you got her pregnant
>>388881 that's a funny way of saying you'd continue your bloodline with qingyi
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>>388888 I see
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>>388888 checked
>>388858 The Hoshimi Miyabi of refusal and rejection
>>388888 omoshiroi
>>388888 IDOLS CUMFIRMED
>>388888 Absolute glory
I tried drawing rat from memory
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>>388943 I can definitely feel the rat aura kek
corn.
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We all know Lucy hates cat thirens, is this supposed to be some kind of divine punishment? Boar is really her only end game.
>>388953 Very cute
>>388953 i was expecting a twist but nope, just cute corn
>>388953 Corin is Cute!
The panda is going to run with Meatbuns xifu, right? Maybe I should prefarm some phys chips too
God damn it cornzone I'll fucking save for astra fine https://youtu.be/QcrREfpVcNs?si=Nmwhdk8z0zr0xZwO
>>388965 i was expecting it to be a dream or the flowers to get dropped, or just anything generally negative to happen. wholesome corn
>>388765 They're the oldest characters we have and in anime terms anything close to 30 is basically 60 irl
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only thing we can prefarm for YX is ether chips right?
>>388998 >I'll fucking save for astra fine Watch out, she might rerun on 2.0 I also didn't get her at first, but I'm pulling her for sure to unbrick my Evelyn
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>>389007 I'd like to know what her 2pc Disk set should be that I can start farming
>>389020 crit 2p
>>389025 Cdmg or Crate?
>>389007 Anomaly level up mats, and engine mats too if you're planning on getting her anal bead
>>389007 And EXP mats. >>389020 Woodpecker or B&B depending on your rolls.
>I can’t eben farm trigger disks yet a full patch after release
>>389020 almost certainly CR or CD. I don't even think ether dmg% is good because of how sheer works
>>389007 Yes >>389020 B&B probably
>>389026 They're equal value but you're better off farming B&B since woodpecker node is worse value
>>389026 both have the same stat budget so whichever stats you are worse off yx has cdmg buff so probl crate better to farm
If I were a hypothetical level 44 what should I be focused on farming
>>388802 I appreciate the bigger boobs. But I do wonder why does that NPC's dress have a paizuri hole.
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>>389032 those disks belong to pulchra
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>>389032 I feel that bro. Just getting to 60, at least E and 8 or 9 on related stats, and an absolute bare minimum discs from VH coupons and Bardic Needle feels like it takes up all my time. One day we'll hit the levelled enough barrier to start hoarding and prefarming shit!
>>389020 >>389042 real fact, you can always craft pecker branch and blade shares node with astral voice which is nice
>>389027 rupture has its own level and engine mats
>>389032 Don't you want the STRONGEST Trigger? Who cares about stunning or support?
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>>389030 >>389038 >>389041 >>389042 >>389045 >>389060 Alright thanks, I'll get to farming
>>389056 My man where is our boy Perlman?
>>389066 Give Sanby back her disks
>>389078 I didn't even roll for Sanby
Are we ready for lvl70 agents?
>>389051 Your agent skill and core levelup mats
>>389066 Wait, is that not how to build toriga? That's how I built her, though her discs aren't as great
>>389080 I can't wait to take a month to level one character from 60 to 70!
>>389080 Assassin's Creed collab? Is that why tencent wanted to buy ubishart?
>>389084 Theoretically support discs like Astral Voice (if no one else on the team is using it) and Swing Jazz are better. I don't really care though, I just want her powerful
>>389089 Eh, I'll keep her as is It's nice to see her with the most points at the end of a fight
>>389080 For fuck sake please no. It already costs 4 mibibillions dennies to max a character.
>>389084 Harmony is Sanby's set it's not actually for Trigger, she's better off with Astral or Swing
>>389080 Our Dennies are going to get fucked harder than Nico if they do add that. I hope they at least convert extra interknot experience into those by the time that rolls around.
How do I play Eve? She’s been rotting on my bench for ages and I need a QRD on her.
>>389094 Doesn’t trigger want the 2.0 set
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>>389080 Only if they increased dennies drop from all the farmable nodes
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>>389056 >eve, lucy and harin not going towards either proxy >astra wanting both for some reason >ellen off in a corner >lighter/burnice this shit is all manners of wrong and i haven't even pointed out everything
I'm rolling both, but man I wish Jufufu was before Yixuan...
>>389104 Build meter, stun, burn meter during stun >>389105 I think most stunners will want MK yea
>>389094 I have the impact set and woodpecker and Trigger's CR is at 90% She seems to stun shit fairly quickly with SS Anby
>>389089 I think swing jazz is bad on trigger because doing chain attacks on her instead of chain canceling on your dps is a damage loss. Also, aftershocks do not generate decibels.
>>389105 Yes but 2.0 isn't out yet >>389111 Eh IMHO it's always better when your fav is on the 2nd banner cause you have more knowledge about future patches that way
>>389111 having your favorite on the second half is better cause you get more time to save
I hope Sarah doesnt become a fucking ethereal like every god damn fucking villain in this game holy fuck Hoyo
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>>389119 >>389121 You guys do have a point, but the thing I'm lacking is characters to roll, not the currency to do so.
>>389123 Technically, Sacrifices aren't ethereals.
>>389123 They need to up the quality of their villains if they plan on killing them all (or redeeming them).
>>389126 whale or haven't pulled for awhile?
>>389116 I'm not gonna rehash it at length but if you don't stun an extra time during your DA with ShockStar you get more value from Astral/Swing. If you're ever tight on a 3 star keep it in mind. Otherwise SS is fine it's not an insane difference.
>>389123 She's becoming a sacrifice with long white hair and a long white snake tail and you will LIKE it
>>389126 Well, nothing you can do No point in thinking about stuff you can't influence anyways. Plus it lets fufu ling up yo phone and make popcorn more.
>>389123 the second she does the twiggy pose we RIOT
>>389135 I get about 30k+ with SS Anby/Trigger/Rina/Shockboo team, typically Miyabi gets around 40k with Lycaon/Astra It's my third team that usually suffers, Piper/Burnice/Lucy/Rocketboo(or Red if physical weakness, lol)
>>389134 Day one player + a bit of being lucky and these last 4 banners were a skip. I just buy the monthly 5 dollar thingy. >>389143 How are her early mindscapes lookin'?
>>389123 Sir your Carole Arna loophole?
>>388004 nicely done
>>389126 I am at nearly the same amount of rolls. I only rolled for Caesar and Astra for my Neko. But damn will i unload into the fufu...
>>387529 Rolling for wife ID
>>389164 you are cat
>>389146 If your ever bored take a random Swing or Astral (whatever's not on Rina) and replace the ShockStar on Trigger and run it again, should see a score bump even without perfect play.
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>>389123 I dont mind villians turning ethereals, I mind when the etheral monsters are generic as fuck instead of looking unique like cunnybringer or twiggy >dina starts turning into ethereal, CG showing her boobs massively increasing in size >same ethereal type monster as other 1s compared to getting a mini nineveh
>>389148 Her stuff got changed a ton this beta patch so can't say about her mindscapes rn cause I didn't look much into the changes Think someone posted a pic a few threads ago
>>389051 efficiency wise I think you use your battery on materials at that point, then at 45 you can do disks, and once you get to 50 everything is maxed out with what they drop so you can just go for whatever you need. that's kind of the discussion I remember having around that level.
>>389162 That tummy looks so nice dude... I want to kiss it.
>>389167 I'm convinced my IP is green-seeded by now
I have a question to the cunny guys Whats appealing about flat and cunny instead of a full grown woman
>>389170 Might as well complete the P5 reference Still not rolling, though
>>389169 I thiiink I have Astral on Rina. Not sure I have a swing set that'd do trigger justice/get her up to her crit cap. Maybe I can farm after I get enough shit for Yi Xuan.
>>389123 it's the only way they can shut up the nerds that want every single character to be rollable
>>389115 >I think most stunners will want MK yea The only stunner I feel like wouldn't necessarily want it would be Qingyi with Harumasa/Zhu. Gonna wait for the final values on the set to do the calculations though.
>>389162 *slurp shlurp slurp* Nice stomach
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>>389185 I like both lolis and hags. I can't really explain it.
>>389193 That's what I'm saying, even without good crit roles you'll probably see a score difference. I did it with random Swing disks with correct mainstats and terrible crit roles and my DA score went up like 10%~
>>389185 Like the other anon said, most like both. Women in general are smaller and cuter than men, so younger girls are on the same trajectory.
>>389177 >>389200 Well.. it's also for harapan..
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>>389185 Both are good, but I think it's best when girls are just becoming women
Do any of you guys plan on skipping Yi Xuan? My priorities for 2.x are Obol, the rabbit girl, and Thiren with the greatsword. I have 517 pulls and I should probably have about 525 by the end of the update. I'm not sure whether to get her or not.
>>389204 >>389223 So its just the youth appeal of women I see
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>>389185 I like both tbh. Though I've only really been with a woman who was an A cup. It was really nice to go down on.
>>389185 I'm just an ass fetishist frankly, can't get off without looking at one. Lolis are more petite and often drawn with asses that really stand out due to their proportions, and also unironically because they have cute and funny personalities. Also like the other guys, I'm not limited to only liking lolis, they're just nice.
>>389230 Ju Fufu, Bunny, SEED if SEED is a she are my main goals Everyone else will require convincing
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>>389234 that looks like it'd be painful
>>389230 Think I'll try her first, if she's actually fun I might grab her but I'm sort of on the fence. Though I don't know if I'll be bored running through 2.x without some new characters for months before Bunny/Obol get here.
>>389185 i like cute and adorable chicks. lolis are that multiplied by 1000
>>389254 >Soukaku7 What about 1-6?
>>389185 I like both, but I like small girls because I want to be able to manhandle them.
>>389185 Cute is cute Simple as
>>389185 Balance in all things. I need to detox from how meaty Trigger is sometimes A petite frame also suits different outfits better, like Lucy's outfit is perfect for her
>>389185 I just enjoy how uncomfortable it makes everyone.
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What are your thoughts on the Prydwen tier list? (Anton, Corn and Bigger are in purgatory)
>>389254 Post Soukaku9.
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>>389272 It goes up to 11, and it could probably be more tbh
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>>389161 ty bro <3
>>389297 I feel like Pulchra is a tad to high and Koleda a tad too low. But then again, I'm bad at the game.
>>389310 It says M6 for A ranks. Pulchra is strong.
>>389297 Healing shouldn't exist in this game
>>389297 Nicole should get that expert tag, and I've seen enough high score DAs and Shiyu speedruns by our cornbwo to convince me she should at least be t2.
>>389319 agreed
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>>389299 It gets posted here a lot sadly
>>389329 >sadly
>>389329 >It gets posted a lot Yeah because we fucking love Oni here
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>>389342 I just want to give new Soukaku content to people
>>389185 I like short women and have an extreme size difference fetish. I just want to be able to pick up a small girl and bend her over furniture while fucking her. I also like huge tits though, and Hoyo hasn't been willing to give me both at the same time... yet.
>>389297 IMO there's so much stuff wrong with it to point at that I feel like I don't have enough fingers. To say the obvious, Harumasa being on T1.5 is insane (Billy/Corn being that low is also retarded).
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>>389356 My wife is so cool
>>389080 Even if it's an annoying grind, I enjoy seeing my characters with bigger numbers. In genshin I always levelled my characters to 90 no matter what. This gives me something to do in addition to everything else coming in 2.0
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>>389356 Impressive
Someone please respond to my question >>388866 with the knowledge I seek.
>>389297 Why are those three in purgatory anyway? I know they'd all fit at or near the bottom, but why not rank them? Homomasa is still overly undervalued and underated. At least a T1 If you play well.
>>389368 I dunno man I'm not gay
>>389369 they are ranked he just didn't do the full screenshot
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>>389369 Yeah but he has to be played optimally for him to compete with those above him, the others dont have that burden
>>389230 assuming I’ve divined the proper order of releases my plans are: >M0W1 Yixuan >skip Jufufu >skip raccoon tamer girl >skip scared foxgirl >M0W1 Orpheus >M0W1 Seed >M0W0 mousegirl
>>389368 As himself? from m0? Apparently a 20% increase m2: 375,926 DMG (35,687 DPS) m0: 311,788 DMG (29,598 DPS)
>>389368 Right around 'not worth the pulls' %
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>>388866 A lot. Both Caesar and Lighter have incredibly strong first couple of Cinemas.
>>389368 Mostly just armchair feelscrafting since I'm not a calc autist His M1 has the 10% extra res shred which is nice but the stun extension is hard to quantify in a direct damage increase. Depends on if the DPS you're using can take advantage of the extra stun time well. Hugo and Evelyn would both obviously enjoy it though The M2 is cracked, Stun DMG Multiplier is a unique multiplier so that's basically a near-direct damage increase based on the amount it says, and it makes his base DMG% even better Basically, it's pretty good. There's a DPS Ben player on YouTube who still can clear current content just because of M2 Lighter so if you want a juiced support it's a decent investment
I hope Jane is next on the buff line after Ellen.
>Redhead >twin tails Holy shit its like she's made for me
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>>389376 I don't know about ben but corn and anton can clear just fine
>>389393 Don't get your hopes up, the older agent "buff" leak came from Flying Flame. They want to sell new agents, buffing older characters goes against their own interest.
>>389395 I'm glad there's something for everyone here. Trigger's long blond ponytail + slim figure was literally made for me specifically.
Save for Raiden bwis!
>>389405 But they also want to sell reruns.
>>389404 Thanks bro
>>389379 This Like sorry but if your characters needs to do their 16 step rotation during a stun window and requires nigh perfect disks just to do what another chan can do by pressing "E", it ain't that high tier
>>389356 I remember when her element was wind
These two are so cute together
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Is it that time of day?
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>>389409 nah that's keka
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>>389417 when isn't it?
>>389410 which is why ellen won't be getting a buff anytime soon, don't think enough people thought about that when this ellen is getting buffed "leak" dropped
>>389397 Clearing with only A ranks is possible, and you only need 6 stars to get all the polys. No character is really "bad" just not as strong and can be good with the right teammates or strategy. I'd like to see even higher difficulty endgame content other than DA in 2.0 that doesn't rely has heavily on the meta. But also not for DA to be left in the dust like Hollow Zero was.
>>389410 You don't need to rely on reruns if you're always selling something new.
>>389405 They absolutely will buff older characters since they already can shill the newer ones by introducing mechanics that favor them. That being said, there is no official announcement that they will do it and even if it appears in the next livestream, don't expect it to come until like 2.5 or something.
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>>388965 As a corn addict i'm not complaining
>>389320 No character should be below T2 in this game except for maybe neko and grace. the prydwen tier list really does not take into account how much skill can elevate performance, especially since they only have the expert tag on homomasa and evelyn for some reason
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>>389421 I wish AI wasn't so ass with hands 90% of the time, I'd love to get something like this
I shamefully never did the hangout date system where you walk around the map with an agent, they have those recommended areas for that stuff, right? Is that the only places where you can get unique interactions?
>>389351 >an extreme size difference fetish Based
>>389421 Good point
>>389395 For me it's >readhead >horns >tail Yum.
>>389432 selling something new that's good while also rerunning something old that's been buffed doubles the amount of FOMO that you can put on players though. they now have to choose between rolling for the shiny new thing or the polished old thing, or just spend money to get both. this is basically what every other gacha does other than hoyo too, they seem to have only just realized its in their best interest to buff old units, at least sometimes. with that said i also don't expect ellen buffs until she reruns again since there's no point to buffing a character they aren't selling
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>>389457 Isn't her tail male?
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https://x.com/Exavalon00/status/1924396872757842171 Damn I'm gonna go clear with kot now
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>>389463 No, Magus along with SEED are referred to as "she" now
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>>389463 Wrong game
>>389461 Realistically, reruns only do well for characters that are already good. Buffs for bad characters is mainly to generate goodwill to counteract the powercreep that needs to happen to sell shiny new thing.
>>389479 Wasn't aware that Magus got the same treatment
>>389485 as it stands right now a second ellen rerun would probably make 0 money since anyone who likes her owns her already, and anyone else knows she's a powercrept brick. buffing her would mean that anyone who would be on the fence might be swayed to pull or spend money for her just because she's more viable now. if the character is already popular independent of their meta status then it's a good strategy
Cant wait for Astra rerun to complete my Evelyn team
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>>389477 Soukaku, more like Socuteu.
does anyone have that king of the zenless video
Reminder that the Idols are around 160cm in height That's as tall as meebs so, no. They are not cunny So you better roll for Phon instead
>>389496 fluffy
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>>389496 Cutest butt
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So warm~~~
>>389498 Im 4cm taller than Miyabi apparently
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>>389185 >flat gross >b cups peak
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I love her
>>389470 Ah, that feels a little better
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>>389507 I wish I could find out if it tastes like blueberries..
>>389490 Yeah, apparently they don't give the localization team any context or info about characters.
>>389491 Still, making old characters more appealing means making new characters less appealing and I don't think big companies like the optics of that.
>>389536 i feel like this is a fallacy because the new character is still going to be the one getting the most promotion and marketing at the time of release, the old character being buffed is almost always for existing players or newcuties. like i said, other games buff old characters all the time and it doesn't seem to cut into their profit, it's only hoyo who seems to think like you do which i find weird
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>>389519 >164cm Small
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>>389514 >So warm not that phrase...
>>389185 Young looking girls are cute and erotic. Shocking I know.
>>389541 >other games buff old characters all the time and it doesn't seem to cut into their profit which gachas do that, honestly asking cause idk
>>389551 FGO? AK did it too
>>389551 FGO semi-often has weeks where every day they buff a certain aspect of a character, either one of their skills or their ultimate.
>>389551 Dragalia
>>389558 Bro...
>>389551 HSR is about to do it with Stellaron Hunters who are fan favorites but people don't want to roll for them cause they are literally garbage tier units at this point
>>389551 FGO has rank up quests all the time to keep older characters from falling off the planet. It's not about buffing them up to new agent status just keeping them from falling too far by the wayside.
>>389551 FGO, Arknights, GBF, GFL2 all buff old characters one way or another. GBF is old enough where units have been reworked multiple times, especially if they're popular
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>>389551 Don't know if they still do it but Epic7 used to buff older characters all the time even Rabi got buffed to a meta threat back when I was still playing
>>389230 517 and you’re not sure? Ive got 30 and plan on going for four characters in a he next few patches lol.
>>389542 Im not small, small would be under 160cm
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>>389558 Fuck man... don't remind me... There will never be a gacha game like dragalia for me...
>>389551 fgo and reverse 1999
>>389551 they don't do it this early
I have finally got to the point, where I can buy out the 141 scam shop. Except for Platings. No one is rich enough to buy out Platings...
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>>389580 >manlet cope
>>389551 Housamo does it too
>>389587 Same, but I still think its bullshit we didn't get the infinite Denny treatment both other Hoyo games got as a level 60 reward.
>>389588 Punishing Lucy for her arrogance!
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>>389530 Don't let your dreams be dreams Just do it
>TFW I'm the same height as Miyabi (with ears)
>>389007 Save HP crit rate/dmg discs too for off pieces.
>>389588 Im not short
>>389395 https://youtu.be/xqdyvgxwGnU? I know SEED is the comic relief character but I hope Orpheus is asuka-esque
mibibi? sorry i can't hear you all the way down there
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>>389580 That's only like 5'4" in burger units... small
>im Seth’s height >the fucking catboy Aahhhhhhhh
I feel like we weren't angry enough at this
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>>389618 What is the average male height in your country?
>>389620 She's shy, serious and scatterbrained
>>389630 It remains to be seen just how bad it'll be when they go full Proxy-in-Hollows, but I also suspect the general simple minded Gacha player is perfectly fine with not needing to rub their two braincells together to do anything more than 'pick up numbers'.
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I'm 37 cm taller than Qingyi.
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>>389638 Its like 180cm in Germany
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I'm 178cm and can feel "very short" or "somewhat normal height" depending on the people I'm with
>>389554 >>389556 >>389558 >>389562 >>389565 >>389566 >>389574 >>389584 >>389590 oh cool so there is a decent precedent for it in the genre, even from the same company. I remember when the most recent DevTalk went up there was a mention about how doing this kind of stuff is a problem in this industry that needs to be handled the right way so I thought it was a rare or non-existent thing. >>389585 it does sound kinda early to do it, but I don't think the aim is like 2.0 rather somewhere in the middle of the 2.X chapters which might still be a bit early
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I'm a perfectly average 175cm
>>389656 im the shortest among my friends and im 181cm
>>389657 It's a problem because one wrong move and your game reputation will tank they are not like the JP fanbase of FGO that won't even do anything if the buff is bad the CN fanbase will absolutely destroy them
>>389657 well, there are rules against modifying characters after they've been released. the way most games circumvent this is that they just release the "buff" as an optional equippable item that you're not forced to use... but obviously, you will use it since it makes the character better
I’m 165 cm…
I'm 184cm but wish I was shorter since I'm into girls that are taller than me
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>>389630 You think? Lemme repost it from the archive: Alright, so I finished both Anby's Story and the current chapter. Anby's chapter was really good, I honestly don't have much bad to say about it. The final resolution was a bit forced, I guess, but it was fine. The main story was a bit of mixed bag. On one had, the overarching plot I really liked. It's compelling, interesting, not exactly obvious - I enjoyed what I saw and I'm curious to see more. I like the new characters. Vivian feels shilled a bit too much by the devs (she gets TWO mini-cutscenes just for her), but character-wise I do like her, so that is forgiven. Hugo's VA is outstanding, and it's obvious from the plot why did they chose this specific seiyuu. The entirety of his agenda is still unknown, even if we do get a rough idea, and he does seem to retain a degree of being morally grey, which is nice. The integration of the story into the gameplay however... First, let's start with the Mayor. Out of all possible plot devices, they had to choose an arbitrary Deus ex machina to do the >you can into Hollows now, Phaetholand! thing. Even if they wanted to do that, there were better options than >so, uh, Lycaon works for me >and I'm the biggest dude there is >and Lycaon says you're alright >and I know your teacher >and that was supposed to be a very big deal literally one main story chapter ago >and I literally do not care >and I also literally do not care that you are Proxies >but you are cool because our interests align probably >but I also will not exercise my power to make you legal Hollow Investigators even if that would help massively our aligning interests >instead I'll shit out an upgrade for your state-of-art one-of-a-kind super-secret machnine even TOPS can't replicate >and it's something Lycaon can install with just a hammer and a screwdriver >and now you can go into Hollows yourself so you can just fucking die there I guess >but you have to promise to do some work for me >like some shit HIA does anyway >and I guess there's a conspiracy also There was some buildup for introducing Mayflowers directly into the story, but this wasn't it, really. The Powers™ themselves are also a bit questionable. I was shitposting before about "the old powers of Paethon" being the TV-mode. But this is essentially exactly what we got. We got back Exploration. It's just instead of it being done in the TV array, we're running around as Proxies. Which is okay, I guess? IMO, I see no functional advantage, and all it does is taking more time - ultimately we still just run around and press action buttons. I guess we receive the amazing infantilizing commens like
[Expand Post]>WHOA, Proxy. Did you just... >Did you just input 7777 on the console?! >HOLY FUCK, YOU'RE SO COOL But then again, having A form of exploration is nice, and I appreciate the exploration music returning. I'd much prefer them just using TVs, but with that out of the picture, I'll be putting my hopes in them doing something good with this nu-Exploration instead. Oh, and I guess transition to combat is much quicker in this version, so there's that. But it's not like it wasn't possible to preload combat scenes during the exploration. The pic related is the only time Fairy was relevent throught the story. Honestly, I'm impressed I have a picture to post. And yes, during her only appearance she was borderline useless because >you, uh, need to split up does not require allegedly the best AI in the world to come up with. IMO it's really the cascading issue of the devs listening to the feedback of >"B-BUT TV IS STOOOOPID I PULLED FOR ASS I WANNA SEE ASS" >"YES YOU NUKED TV AND ASS IS NOW ALL I SEE BUT NOW I CAN'T SEE MY PLAYER CHARACTER'S ASS!" >"OKAY, NOW YOU SHOEHORNED PLAYER CHARACTER INTO EVERY STORY BUT FAIRY IS TOO STRONG AND MY CHARACTER IS USELESS!" """people""". It's REALLY the case of "customers do not know what they want". With the TVs we had relevant protagonists, nice super-AI plot device, and agent ass to observe every combat. Every single retarded story-related "solution" that was introduced into the game since the release was aimed at fixing a "problem" that doesn't fucking exist. And fixing a problem that doesn't exist is called "breaking shit", so now we need to fix the shit that was broken. All we have now is running from point A to point B, reading some dialogue lines and maybe solving a puzzle that a toddler would figure out. Great. I did like some touches for improving immersion, though. How characters had lines when you approach them, or how you get an agent running around with you when you're in the Hollow. This is nice, I want more of this. Maybe they'll eventually figure out how to turn this deep dumb hole the devs dug themselv into due to listening to morons into a sensible tunnel leading somewhere coherent. So, overall, I liked the chapter, I liked the story, I'm hopeful for the direction the game is taking, but I'm very much not impressed by the gameplay choices to present that story, as well as glaring plot holes introduced to justify that gameplay.
>>389643 You didn't even need to remember them. Easily my least favorite update
>>389630 ellen called it out for us
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>>389662 At the very least, most of the world seems built around people being plusminum 5cm away from 180cm, so I can both reach the top shelf AND not hit my head on low ceilings/doorways. Shitty dorm beds fit me perfectly, while my 190cm roomie had his stinky feet hanging out.
>>389677 Sending this to Da Wei STAT
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>>389677 it's insane how much this game has been jerked around by single cell organisms who are too lazy to engage with any kind of gameplay that isn't mashing buttons or staring at giant butts. i'm glad the devs SEEM to have a direction now, even if it wasn't what i came for originally, it's better than the patche sof them just flinging shit at the wall and seeing what sticks
>>389651 >Im 4cm taller than Miyabi apparently With ears included or without? 174cm is fine if the average is 180cm.
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2.5 was such a cool story chapter, its still my favorite even now.
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I'm 188cm, I think that's Billy Height iirc
I can't fucking take it anymore bwos, I want the livestream NOW
>>389694 timetravelGOD...?
>>389691 Without ears so 164
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>>389676 I'm 191cm, and there has only been one woman who has been as tall or a bit taller than me. I was amazed and jerked off at least twice to the thought of her riding me and pinning me down with her hands while breaking my pelvis. There's also times where I see girls that are basically up to my ribcage that I just want to throw over my shoulder and cuddle close.
>>389560 >>389582 I miss you Zardin…
>>389706 I'm talking about the chapter, not the version. It was between the Belobog and Victoria Housekeeping chapters in 1.0
>>389697 oh..someone i can look into the eyes
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>>389704 Anniv will be 30 pulls at best most likely.
>>389080 only if they DO NOT scale enemies too.
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By the way, we got precisely ZERO nu-exploration missions in this patch.
>>389657 The problem is it completely destroys long term balance. Imagine if they buffed up nekomata to miyabi level, then released someone even stronger and tried to buff everyone under that to their level. I'd love to show you some launch epic7 characters next to their buffed 7 times versions but I don't have any pictures. Also it's a pandora's box since you can buff characters but nerfing them is a big no no which can land you in hot water with the law
>>389558 Enujibros…
>>389682 your +-5cm rule is pretty true im usually tall enough to have an easy time with infrastructure but never too tall that it becomes a hindrance, being 181 in a place where the average is 174 when i was in japan (170 avg) i was always having to slightly duck to not hit my head on certain passages and i touched the ceiling of the apartment bathroom if i stood straight rofl
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>>389694 ah, the days when shoe yen was still likable...
>>389708 Bruh. I'm sorry to say but it does sound like you are coping a bit. I mean it could be worse but 16cm below the average height is kinda short.
>>389719 What if the ongoing HP inflation despite the lack of powerscreep since Miyabi and Astra is precisely because that's what's planned? Like they're boiling a frog to incentivize grinding the new materials asap.
>>389677 I think we knew that Lycaon wasn't the true master of Victoria Housekeeping. Also, the HDD system technology was also being studied as we saw when Astra was synchronized with Snap. The upgrade wasn't a huge leap. We also knew that the proxies had a condition that made them not resistant to ether, but we didn't know what it was. This was just the reveal, even if you find it unreasonable.
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>>389732 I'm so fucking mad about what they did to her.
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>>389732 but she still is? don't we all love officer zhu yuan here??
>>389630 Im witholding judgement till we see how exactly its gonna be implemented in full
>>389735 Its not so bad being my height
>>389748 I feel like she's really underpowered nowadays. Could barely get more than 2 stars and I have her ATK at 3300, CR 60%/CDMG 170%ish :(
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>>389715 >Kot tries to look me in the eyes Beep
>>389677 >>but I also will not exercise my power to make you legal Hollow Investigators even if that would help massively our aligning interests That would be actively detrimental to the siblings If being official hollow investigators would have been benificial then they would have just became hollow investigators
>>389741 >I think we knew that Lycaon wasn't the true master of Victoria Housekeeping. Sure but why the Mayor of all people lmao We really went from being underground criminalised Proxies worried about the cops seeing our HDD to basically widely known super agents protected by the government
>>389762 Was talking more about the story, she still gets 20K in DA for me and can clear Shiyu 7 in under 2 minutes and 30 seconds in a Zhu/Qingyi/Nicole team
>>389773 I like the theory that the mayor is actually one of the super AIs like Fairy.
>>389773 >why the mayor of all people There's a theory the mayor is actually one of the AI like Fairy
>>389780 >>389781 I'll allow it if true
>>389773 Because Mayflowers and TOPS. It's kind of the background of the plot. And we had the protection of the Hoshimi Miyabi from 1.4.
>>389780 >>389781 So one of ghost, jinni, or youkai? or the secret fifth AI that they'll asspull out of nowhere
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>>389773 >underground criminalised Proxies worried about the cops i mean you couldn't really have expected that to stick around when the second fucking banner of the game was a cop
>>389777 Hmm maybe it's because I just have stun Anby/Nicole/Resonaboo with her I know Qingyi really helps her
>>389788 I would assume Jinni since in the lore teaser they get "uploaded" while the others go offline to wait for something.
>Shorter than Miyabi with ears it's over
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>>389765 stop that!
>>389726 Epic7 isn't that good of a comparison because of the PvP aspect there, i think instead of buffs we're getting something closer to the modules in Arknights that work pretty much like the Lost Void catalysts
>>389773 >why the Mayor Why not? >We really went from being underground criminalised Proxies worried about the cops seeing our HDD to basically widely known super agents protected by the government Not to say we arent essentially goverment agents at this point but we are still technically criminals? The siblings identities as phaethon was just revealed to NEPS and instead of booking them they got forced into being police informants And only the higher ups in NEPS are aware of this as well as Zhu, Qingyi, and Jane. Any of the other police lower on the rung would attempt to make an arrest if they got caught again Though the mayor or HSO would likely pull strings to get them out of that situation...
>>389792 I actually really liked the chapter of helping Zhu and Qingyi without them seeing us. An inside line would have been fine, it just kind of spiraled out of control after them. Except Seth.
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>>389800 I also got INTP when I did that test like 5 years ago. I wonder if I'd get a different result if I did it now.
>>387521 stay away demons
>>389812 I’ve done it different times over past few years and I get intp-t no matter how hard I try not to
>>389672 ah yeah with a vehement fanbase they definitely have to tread carefully >>389673 it'd be interesting if characters got a slot where they could equip their buff because I think for some people that would set expectations that every character would receive one eventually >>389726 it is true that I would never expect them to nerf a character in this kind of game which does make things tricky, because players can often take something and utilize better than what devs intended. especially when a buff is more mechanical than purely numerical
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>>389741 >I think we knew that Lycaon wasn't the true master of Victoria Housekeeping Yes, them having a master was revealed in Chapter 3. That's not really a problem. The introduction of the said master wasn't handled properly. >Also, the HDD system technology was also being studied as we saw when Astra was synchronized with Snap. The upgrade wasn't a huge leap. This is, in fact, completely wrong. HDD is specifically HOLLOW Deep Dive system. The technology for synching up with Bangboos is incredibly rare, valuable, and bleeding edge, but it exists and TOPS have it. HDD is literally one-of-a-kind. It's main and core purpose is allowing for communication in and out of the Hollows, literally no one in ZZZ world has anything even remotely comparable to it, at least as of now. Both Evelyn and Vivian have figured out the identity of Phaethon because literally no one in the entire game world but Phaethon has demonstrated the ability to maintain a network connection with the outside world from within a Hollow. It's a very important plot point that was reiterated at least twice, including literally in the same story chapter that brought in the "upgrade". So, no, when you abruptly shit out an "upgrade" for something as unique and valuable as HDD and your only explanation is >I'm, uh, a friend of your teacher it's not an example of good writing. And it only becomes worse the longer you think about it - even if they had this exact idea in mind from the very beginning, the way they introduced it into the story creates a bunch of massive plot holes.
Oh yeah and this part when the able-to-fight-ethereals-with-ease wolf guy with BIONIC LEGS chasing after his (supposed at the time) sworn enemy/old friend was completely stopped in his tracks by a gate that's only two or three feet taller than him.
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>>389815 >he thinks he can stop cunny
>>389780 >>389781 So the current AI theories are >Rain has Ghost >Mayor is one of the AIs We have gone through the entirety of 1.X without that plot going forward even a bit, hope we see it more in 2.X
>>389800 I thought the meme was Anon being INTJ. I'm also INTP, but still.
Why does hoyo do their livestreams on fridays at a time where only asians and neets can watch it. The only livestream I could watch with you bwos was the 1.6 one cause I had a sick day.... why can't they do their streams on a weekend, it's pre-recorded anyway
>>389806 AK is the same thing though. Modules were introduced as a way to make older powercrept characters more in line with the newer better ones... then they also gave the new characters modules that made them powercreep older characters even harder
>>389824 He may be a beast, but he's not an animal
>>389796 You think the mayor will be an AI construct like Billy with Jinni uploaded inside then?
what? we chinese already? i thought it was next patch.
>>389848 NIGGA JUMP
>>389854 A gentleman always follows proper etiquette
>>389823 Technically, we haven't even been properly introduced to the Mayor. Also, I'm pretty sure that the player compared the crude synchronization technology to the HDD. They even asked them if they could go into a Hollow, but we know the rest. And Helios Academy is not a completed plotline. We know little about the proxies' teacher or her connections. You could definitely call it rushed, but they're mostly touching nebulous plotlines rather than messing up with anything established.
>>389817 Welp, I guess some things never change. The results are very close to what I got 5 years ago. With me getting slightly more intuitive and much more prospecting, I guess? Zenless Zone Zero
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>>389800 >>389812 my results are always changing when i do them, today it's ENTP which makes me hugo apparently
>>389852 Only mild shilling of China City at the moment with a garbage mini event
>>389824 Zhu Yuan can jump 30 feet into the air in cutscenes and isn’t even top tier in-universe, don’t think too hard about it
>>389851 It could be that, or he could just be an AI in some super computer somewhere. Either way I highly doubt the dude is human because we've seen neither him or any other Mayflower family member.
I'm going to repeat myself now, but the plot not going the way you would've liked it to go doesn't mean that the story is bad.
I need more Qingyi (You)pandering
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>>389879 an entire permanent event for her is pretty great, but i'd always appreciate more
>>389824 Jokes aside, this is unironically a problem with the removal of TVs. It's much harder to match what's happening ingame with the story they want to tell when you're forced to use the limited map over the abstraction that the TVs offered
>>389780 >>389833 >>389871 I had this discussion with an anon weeks ago, i'm calling it that he's going to have a President Eden type reveal. We never even got a hint of what he could possibly look like with not even a silhouette or anything like that. He only acts through Lycaon and is treated like an illusive type character that no one knows what he looks like.
>>389879 The fishing event was nice. For some unexplainable reason, it really made me want to make Chin'i pregnant.
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My face ends where Evelyn's ass begins
>>389875 Doesn't make it good, either. They're not getting any benefit of the doubt with how much the game's focus has obviously shifted in recent patches, but I WANT it to be good.
>>389773 for one chapter then we work with cops and a construction company
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>>389630 There's definitely a few people who want Lycaon to suck them off, but they definitely went a bit far with the level of deep throating he gave you for remembering two "very difficult" combinations. I get the Quixy event after was supposed to be a joke, but boy did it fall a bit flat being so close to that shit.
>>389796 I'm thinking Jinni too but only because jinn are shapeshifters. Fairy: Search Youkai: Destroy Ghost: Infiltrate Also in the teaser Youkai shows upload status in one frame after
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>>389903 Writing aside, the execution worked for me. Though I admittedly have low expectations for the story of this action gacha. I was happy that we could save Bibian with our powers.
>>389910 Interesting, I wonder if this means Youkai goes rogue?
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LICKY LICK LICK
>>389915 Who's the fat ugly bastard at the bottom..?
If 2.0 only has a hag what are we to do. What if they never release Lucia
>Thinking the major is AI Did you miss the part at the end where the hacker says >You four got to sleep and wait for someone who has the power to awaken you
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>>389038 Regular DMG% still works on sheer damage attacks, sheer damage attacks just have an extra multiplier for sheer DMG% (which Yi Xuan gets from her sig). Ether dmg% is fine, although I don't know if it'll be better than HP% on disc 5.
>>389915 Who follows gachashit on fucking LinkedIn?
>>389823 >>Yes, them having a master was revealed in Chapter 3. We knew before that, he was always in charge of Victoria, but he wouldn't divulge who employed them, there were hints as soon as he showed up. >So, no, when you abruptly shit out an "upgrade" for something as unique and valuable as HDD and your only explanation is It's not shitting it out, it's meant to set up the Mayor as somebody else. Through that upgrade and the mayor's actions, he's established himself as somebody you might not want to fuck with, it also further enhances the threat of the TOPS faction and the exaltists, because if they're playing with things at this level then they're very very dangerous. The stakes are being upped.
>>389941 The ones funding it
>>389941 Gooner CEOs
>>389875 Mockingbird as a faction felt to disjointed, and the 1.7 followup felt less like main story, and more like two character stories mashed into it. Caused a lot of stuff to feel like it resolved a bit to fast, and left both agents feeling like they wouldn't have terribly much relevance in any future stuff, or unresolved things to come up later.
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>>389859 >Technically, we haven't even been properly introduced to the Mayor. Yes, there was buildup, and all of that buildup was effectively wasted because they decided to shoehorn him into the story in this manner. >Also, I'm pretty sure that the player compared the crude synchronization technology to the HDD. They even asked them if they could go into a Hollow, but we know the rest. Exactly. The Bangboo sync technology on is already rare enough for MCs to not be aware of it even existing outside of HDD they have access to. HDD was deliberately shown to be in a league of its own compared to even that. >And Helios Academy is not a completed plotline. We know little about the proxies' teacher or her connections. >You could definitely call it rushed, but they're mostly touching nebulous plotlines rather than messing up with anything established. It's rushed, stupid and out of place. I repeat, they could've told the exact same story in a different manner. Shitting out an """upgrade""" for a one-of-a-kind state-of-art piece of technology, Lycaon can just go and fucking install wasn't the way to do that. It's a clear aftermath of TVs being scrapped out of the game and the devs needing an excuse to shove the protagonists into Hollows ASAP. And they handled it poorly. The story has suffered because of ADHD retards who don't play the game anymore anyway. There are stories that can make sense if you think of a bunch of excuses to justify them. The stupid HDD """upgrade""" plot line is poorly written, but you can excuse it at a later point by elaborating on the connection between the mayor and the teacher. It'd be an obvious retcon, but at least it would work. The problem is, having one of the most powerful people in New Eridu "backing" the siblings while being an alleged friend of their teacher, while doing diddly dick to help, yet providing an """upgrade""" out of nowhere, just to put them further in danger to do stuff HIA does for him anyway will ALWAYS be retarded. This is just a part of the story that will literally never look good, no matter what they'll introduce and add to it in the future. I guess if they reveal that the mayor is actually clinically retarded, that'd be an apt explanation, so maybe I'm wrong.
>>389310 The fact that Pulchra is off-field, gives 30% damage bonus and can use Astral Voice puts her above both Anby and Koleda pretty comfortably.
>>389955 Mockingbird is two people and a bunch of people that will never exist other than being mentioned by the main two people
>>389940 Is Sheer force scaling with HP harder than ATK specific to Shishou or the whole class is HP scaling?
>>389941 >my name john CEO and here's what ZZZ taught me about B2B sales
>>389955 Poor Hugo being sent out to die on a banner after a popular girl and before 2.0 in the most filler of patches.
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Void Hunters = Archons AIs = Gnosis I imagine we'll be getting one of each per patch cycle
>>389975 I really expected this retarded ass post to be a (1)
>>389975 Who are the dragon sovereigns?
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>>389975 Eous after 4.x!
>>389955 1.5 was disconnected too. Remember this is the epilogue of part 1. I do want to see them more in the future, though.
>>389966 Considering that the BP ball has hp% it's probably the latter
>>389955 Mockingbird as a faction also fell short cause they're supposed to be a thieves guild yet we only have 2 agents (and the only characters) in mockingbird. Pretty sure Vivian mentioned that she took over as leader of mockingbird while Hugo was 'dead'. Where the fuck are the rest of thieves guild? why is it literally just hugo and vivian doing this shit? Belobog is also an organisation faction, and they have a legion of bears, bangboos and mentally ill, talking construction machinery
>>389984 Will be introduced in 4.0 obviously
>>389820 >it is true that I would never expect them to nerf a character in this kind of game which does make things tricky, because players can often take something and utilize better than what devs intended. Eons ago this happened in GBF with Summer Zooey. She ended up being so obviously the most meta character that they dragged her out of the "can only pull her during summer" restriction and added her to the Intentionally Meta monthly banner, which (iirc) has never happened to any other character before or since. She's not impressive these days but she was on the top of the tier lists for years.
>>389993 You meet some of mockingbird's agents when you play as Hugo and Lycaon in the main story
>>389985 let's see if this works
>>389955 Can the Mockingbirds even be thieves anymore? Didn't Hugo get his identity revealed?
>>389964 Well that's the thing, even if you look at it as just two, or two and a half, people Vivian and Hugo had almost no overlap outside of their introduction at the auction. Both just kinda deal with their deep seated family trauma on their own without informing the other of what's going on really.
>>389942 >We knew before that Anon. Victoria Housekeeping was properly introduced in Chapter 3. >It's not shitting it out It's precisely shitting it out. To upgrade a piece of technology, you have to have access to it. If him being able to upgrade it supposed to imply HE has access to it but doesn't do shit with it, then congrats, you just introduced a plot hole into the story, as that's completely retarded, goes against everything we've seen so far, and makes absolutely no sense. A more likely explanation is that the upgrade was in the works for some time and the one working on it was out teacher, the mayor just happened to have it because he's a friend, etc., etc. This would make sense, same as with the modularity of the upgrade. But the problem is, his introduction is retarded and rushed. Because of how they decided to introduce him, they made him look retarded, as there's a bunch of mental gymnastic you need to go through to put him at his place, and make it make sense. And they don't handle it properly. It's shit writing, period. I'm not mad just because. I'm mad because I gave it a lot of thought, and the longer I think about it the worse it becomes. The story got fucked by retards, and this makes me mad.
Fellow INTP anons' thoughts on TV mode?
>>390003 Ok i'll admit I forgot about that, but i'll pretend that didn't happen to make my point more credible.
>>390011 I wish they'd kept it for side commissions at least.
>>389955 I think they worked together as a sort of sudo-family in 1.6, but in 1.7 it really just felt like two random people doing their thing on a mission with you. 1.7 was just really sloppily written in general, it's like it was made by a B-team that's never seen the script for 1.6
>>389958 You seem to be a bit confused about the specifics, why would the upgrade be a hardware thing? Lycaon isn't a tech guy, I have no idea how you went there. It was most likely a software thing, like how Fairy can do other impossible stuff and blow our electric bill. I already said this, but you writing the story in your head and then getting mad that the real one is different is unreasonable. And you know full well that Phaeton can do things that no other people can, even without special powers. I'm guessing you were also unhappy about the proxies tanking Bringer's explosion.
>>390005 Pretty sure the general public thinks he is dead?
>>390010 It's clumsy as fuck but given the leakers notes on there being way more to TV than we saw; The pivot away from TV VERY clearly fucked up everything for the roadmap and dev cycle and that caused a ton of ripple effects in story telling and even world design when they had to completely reassess the gameplay and how the story connected with it.
>>390011 I didn’t mind it when it wasn’t holding your hand. But most of the time it was so it was annoying. This is what happens when you pander to retards
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>>389902 greatest ass ever
>>390013 What side commissions lmaooooo
fuck bros i feel baited >"storyline" event >choose a "partner to travel" "ooh, some silly writing for autists like me?" >its fill up bars after 4h FUCK
>>390017 I don't think matters when his targets are not the general public.
>>390013 >side commissions The real loss is no more Venus
>>390021 Viewing it from the side as shes walking it bends time and space
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I just came btw
>>390023 >"Interactive storytelling" >The interaction is you not playing the game for 4 hours Truly incredible
>>389958 >The problem is, having one of the most powerful people in New Eridu "backing" the siblings while being an alleged friend of their teacher, while doing diddly dick to help, yet providing an """upgrade""" out of nowhere, just to put them further in danger to do stuff HIA does for him anyway will ALWAYS be retarded. You're not meant to trust the mayor or his cronies. Hugo is on his side, but he says as much when he speaks to Lycaon about it. None of these people are trust worthy and it's all concerning. The biggest issue is Fairy's lack of character and coomms in the wake of everything even if she was knocked around by some other AI we don't know about yet. >>390010 >If him being able to upgrade it supposed to imply HE has access to it but doesn't do shit with it, then congrats, you just introduced a plot hole into the story, as that's completely retarded, goes against everything we've seen so far, and makes absolutely no sense. IT does though, the Mayor is implied to have some sort of access to a similar system, we already know there's other AIs like Fairy, and one attacked us in ch5 even if it wasn't outright stated. If anything we're meant to treat this whole thing like we're making a deal with a potential devil. >A more likely explanation is that the upgrade was in the works for some time and the one working on it was out teacher, the mayor just happened to have it because he's a friend, etc., etc. >This would make sense, same as with the modularity of the upgrade. We're not meant to trust him, and it was dumb to install it sight unseen, but the Mayor in general is establishing higher stakes. We're not even sure he's human at this point.
>>389966 Yi Xuan's hp scaling is part of her passive while ATK scaling is intrinsic to the class, so probably the former. Would be weird if they made 3/4 rupture balls just for her though.
>>390035 Wait, Vivan also does that? I know Trigger gets a feel for your face, but I wasn't aware Vivian copied
>>390035 ...i miss bibi
>>390015 We both know it's because they don't want ricecels to have a meltdown over being "cucked"
>>390037 I chuckled
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>>390046 juist go invite her on a date bwo
What data is in the sewers?
>>390035 >Vivian ASMR
>>390022 This is exactly why.
>>390057 I had to date an agent for a weekly mission this time. I went with Ellen.
>>390058 her hangouts/trust events are supposed to take place before she learns we are proxies right?
>>390016 >You seem to be a bit confused I'm not. You are. >why would the upgrade be a hardware thing? Modularity does not necessarily imply hardware. >Lycaon isn't a tech guy, I have no idea how you went there. I didn't go anywhere. >It was most likely a software thing, like how Fairy can do other impossible stuff and blow our electric bill. And that doesn't change anything about my point. To write a piece of software for a piece of hardware, you still need access to hardware. If it's something Lycaon can just shove in and click "install" it's every bit as retarded as if it was an actual physical module you install. >I already said this, but you writing the story in your head and then getting mad that the real one is different is unreasonable. No, you are simply reading the story wrong. You have already said that "HDD isn't that unique", when it literally is. You missed two separate cases of that being deliberately stated. When I corrected you and gave you the example, you've managed to miss the point AGAIN. What are you even talking about? >I'm guessing you were also unhappy about the proxies tanking Bringer's explosion. And you are guessing wrong. Seriously, anon, start paying attention to the story if you're going to talk about it to someone who does. And tone it down with ad hominem. If all your points were deconstructed and proven wrong, it's not a personal attack - you don't need to go all passive aggressive on me, because I don't like that and you'll get just aggressive in return.
>>390057 IM TRYING IT WONT LET ME
>>390058 >You will never have a sewer-smelling, trash-heap living rat gf What's the fucking point....
Belle, I need help getting my rizz up, last time I tried to hit up Gyattvelyn she just stared at me like I was acting insane. Help your brother out and I swear I won't fanum tax your food for the next week
>>390058 probably gangs, rebels, and cults operating down there. Would be cool if it were something to explore, but it's not a hollow so won't happen
I went ahead and pulled for him with my guaranteed since I just really like his support for fire and ice teams and his cool stun gimmick. Also for the filename comment as well since I am in a huge SNK kick. With 81 Pulls left I'll just use them for the new Xuan and reset my panda pulls since I want to try and get him M6ed. I should have enough to guarantee her anyways. And with that I now have all the SoC people, which is ironic since that is the biggest faction.
>>390076 >No, you are simply reading the story wrong. nta but pull your head out of your ass dude
>>390073 All the cops trust events take place before chapter 5, yes, even though Qingyi figures you out before then.
>>390090 grats bwo i expect harin shiyus now
>>390100 Cool, that makes sense then... wonder if we are gonna get post reveal trust events whenever they do the updates to the trust stuff
>>390104 I don't have her yet, but I got m1 Rina when trying for Hugo so I will be selecting Harin now. I don't have Hugo either, but I just like how unique Lighter is and if Hugo didn't want to come in my 50/50 then too bad for him.
>>390084 I can fix her. >Proceeds to get dragged into the trash heap and live life smelling like a sewer >Is happy
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the transformer i cant wait for friday :D
>>390076 >>389677 >Lycaon can install with just a hammer and a screwdriver Yes, they do have experimental hardware that's similar to the HDD. They're also working on improving it. Astra told us as much. The HDD is unique, but our teacher invented it. It's not unreasonable that she knows everything about it. Though we don't know why was she working with the Mayor. I can see that you seem to think that loose plot points constitute a great offense, but the bottom line is that we don't know that much about the background of the story. There's not a whole lot of lore to try and make an outline of the overarching story. We just experience it as they show it to us. It's not a bad thing in itself, even if you personally don't like it. Also, I really like having this kind of heated discussion without shitflinging. It's great.
>>390093 >Nuh-uh No, fuck off. When people quote parts of the story LITERALLY AND PROVABLY WRONG and then have the audacity to imply that I'm missing something, correcting them is very much not putting my head in my ass.
>>390115 Sorry little fella, it's store management and taking out the trash for you from now on.
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>>390124 We have other bangboos for that. Eous is special.
>>390111 >nicole ID this is a sign from the 8moe gods that pinks will be real!!!! YES!!!!
Anyone want some popcorn?
>>390121 its a gacha game dude its not that big a deal
>>390076 >To write a piece of software for a piece of hardware, you still need access to hardware. >If it's something Lycaon can just shove in and click "install" it's every bit as retarded as if it was an actual physical module you install. The Mayor very clearly has access to tech like this and he's not the only one, which we found out when PUBSEC almost arrested Phaethon. As for tech you can install with a hammer, it's software, it's like having a thumbdrive with a disc image on it and a simple set of install instructions.
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i built ben. still need to upgrade him a little more, but should be usable. how do you use him?
>>390148 Do you have Lighter?
>>390090 You won't regret him, him and Hugo are a killer pair.
>>390076 >To write a piece of software for a piece of hardware, you still need access to hardware. ever heard of cross-compilation?
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>>388102 dunno lmao
>>390147 Fucking Fairy was in a little pendrive.
>>390132 >that AI kek I knew I recognized your posting style good job being normal for a whole thread
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>>390151 i have the president.
>>389995 >they dragged her out of the "can only pull her during summer" restriction and added her to the Intentionally Meta monthly banner that's pretty funny. sounds like they got a lot more careful with what they were doing after that
>>390152 I don't have Hugo since I have 82 rolls left and am saving for Pan(and Xuan). I can get him on a rerun, but I looking out for the newer fire and ice attackers that are coming out this patch, as I really need to work on getting Attack units since I have all the Anomaly people.
>>390160 I didnt make these AI Miyabi sloppas, I just took them from halfchan chudbeit
bros I need ur help. post hot idol pics, ai slop welcomed
>>390162 there's a chance that koleda + ben might be a viable cope support duo for yixuan, especially since koleda is getting rupture added as a valid activation for her additional ability
>>390186 what does ben even do in terms of buffing the team again?
>>390190 he buffs koleda's cool factor and uhhh gives them crit chance
>>390190 16% crit rate, which isn't much but he also does okay daze whenever you parry with him. it's not going to be ideal but if you really want to use THOSE characters together, it's probably the first dps that would actually be good enough to deadlift it
>>390186 >Yi Xuan's cope team is the other bear thigger defense and the other fire hebe stunner Would be pretty funny tbh
>>390173 Bro it's cool as long as you're not intentionally baiting or shitting up the thread on that ID then you're fine
>>390190 he provides +sheer dmg like panda its less but better than nothing i guess
>>390168 I needed attack and stun, and now, with Hugo I do. Even with a half baked Hugo with no ball and shitty skills I was able to do more work than S11 c2. >>390157 Oh yeah lol I forgot she was on that SSD
>>390186 I wonder if I should build my Koleda. My only Fire damage dealer is Harin, but I also have Toriga. On the other hand, some Fire weak enemies are resistant to Electric. But Koleda just stuns and nothing else, she's not too useful unless stunning becomes important.
>>390202 I feel like a schizophrenic what the fuck are you talking about
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>>390178 i wish rokudo had more art
>>390207 electric resist doesn't matter cause toriggah does like four damage anyway her daze and dmg debuff still is unaffected
>>390148 Depends on the content and vibe you want. Some people use him as main DPS then pair him with Lucy and Lighter/Burnice/Caesar prioritizing up time on him to get non-stop parries out and doing some infernal metal jank. Others treat him as a half stunner/off field type character waiting on the Big Cylinder cooldown to come in and do the big dick counter or provide tasty guard assist while keeping S11/Eve on the field. His shield is ironically one of the smallest, and he doesn't really provide buffs unless you grab the engine for it, so slotting him is a lot different of a vibe than the other two defenders.
So if the mech bangboo is a test for SEED i get the feeling that the model will be too big for overworld so might be a chance someone smaller is inside the mech Not like Firefly but moreso like Kilo from NIKKE
>>390213 No, her daze is affected by resistance. And you still want her to help you stun.
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>>390207 If you're not rolling for lighter then yes obviously
>>390218 >daze is affected by resistance I thought daze resistance wasn't as bad as damage was? I've ran s11 a couple times with trigga in fire weak/electric strong nodes and it felt fine
>>390205 >Even with a half baked Hugo with no ball and shitty skills I was able to do more work than S11 c2. I definitely won'dt argue that. I am a f2per and lose a ton of my 50/50s. The only ones I have won since day 1 have been Astra's and Vivian's. Also Jane's 50/50 after I got her guaranteed due to wanting one Seth copy, but that fucked me over long term imo.
What's the best ball for Hugo if I don't have his sig? I have Eve's and SAnby's balls
>>390219 Fairy kinda kinky...
>>390217 He's going to be a transformer, when he's in the overworld he's going to be a tiny chinese car that can fit in alleyways (same thickness as ben), but when he's in combat he transforms into his mecha glory form
>>390220 I may as well. I do like Koleda, she's cute. But I still need to wait for the new stunner disc set to gear everyone.
>>390224 The event ones that are no longer running: Macarto Desires and Gilded Blossom.
>>390217 this is why the overworld walking feature was stupid, a waste of resources and it stifles creativity
>>390223 >Astra Her alone ameks whatever team you have s tier, you can put her with Billy and Puclhra and fuck things up ez >Viv and la Ratta Both enable each other, if you put in like, another anomaly hero or something you can get a sick disorder team. You got some nice pulls man.
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>>390228 She is just too cute True, you could raise someone else in the meantime i guess
>>390233 it was a necessary feature, it was absurd that you had no way to look at your agents outside of combat, especially at a point where the game was only like 40-50% combat. i would blame the devs for not having the foresight to make their overworld areas more accommodating to their more elaborate character designs
>>390217 >>390227 The other anon was right, he is a bangboo, so we're gonna get a little military bangboo with a captain's hat in the overworld. We already have the animations for Bangboo overworld movement.
>>390243 fuck I might have to pull him if he's a bangboo piloting a mech
>>390243 >seed is a bangboo piloting a mech >has (You)pandering Post yfw
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>>390233 running around stuck as one character was stifling, plus it's ben exist as an example of how they can go bigger if they want to even in the overworld
>>390249 I mean phaethon does have a way with robots...
>>390219 >>390225 >Fairy takes pleasure in potentially being shut down What a fucking masochistic tease slut >>390243 I doubt he's going to be a normal bangboo, he's probably a bangboo the same way qinyi is a bangboo. The dialogue from trigger or s11 (i forgot who said it) that he likes to eat flowers suggests he has something that resembles a mouth.
>>390243 i do wonder if he's similar to robin where he can just speak normally but also like a bangboo
>>390251 ben isn't even 2m he's not actually tall
>>390243 Banboos are not intelligent constructs.
>>390259 moreso meant as in they're not reliant on human scaling to have them run around in the overworld point's moot anyway, if the character's too big they can just make it so you can't use them in the overworld anyway
>>390249 >greasy smiling nobleman with baby bangboo portrait I wonder if that's who SEED is. >>390257 >What a fucking masochistic tease slut If you instead hug the monitor she gets flustered more. >I doubt he's going to be a normal bangboo, he's probably a bangboo the same way qinyi is a bangboo. WAIT WHAT
>>390262 Neither is Seed according to Trigger’s Port Elpis invite event
>>390178 >bacause it's a hassle to draw clothes so fucking true
>>390263 that sounds terrible but anby has no new trust events so
>mibibi, lighter, or jane cant i just pick all three...
>>390274 pick lighter.
>>390264 Qinyi said she's basically a slightly more advanced bangboo with a human-appearing body instead of the little rabbit bodies that all the other bangboos have. So if they're going that route then sneed is going to be closer to qinyi than eous
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>>390118 The point isn't that it's impossible to provide the """upgrade""" to HDD. I have mentioned several times that there are avenues of handling it. The problem is, they didn't handle it properly. Let me go over it point by point: >Yes, they do have experimental hardware that's similar to the HDD. *That's similar to a minor part of HDD's functionality. HDD is, again HOLLOW Deep Dive system. TOPS don't have anything similar to it. The Bangboo sync is not the main feature of HDD. It's highly likely that Carole Arna has developed both, which links them, but the whole point of that encounter with Evelyn was to have some buildup for how actually outstanding HDD is. You are taking it as "they have something similar" when in fact, the whole point was literally the opposite of that - they have nothing even remotely similar to it. >The HDD is unique, but our teacher invented it. It's not unreasonable that she knows everything about it. Though we don't know why was she working with the Mayor. This is correct. And as I mentioned, the mayor providing the upgrade isn't something completely implausible. It just poorly written and shits all over the buildup we had. Essentially, there are two directions this can go: >The Mayor has access to HDD of his own, hence why he could develop an upgrade Well, this would work, but this would just be terrible writing and a massive plot hole. Think about it: 1) You have a state of art piece of technology that allows in-Hollow communication; 2) You have a good enough understanding of the technology to develop an upgrade for it; 3) You don't do shit with it; 4) You don't integrate it into HIA so less people fucking die; 5) You don't integrate it into NEDF so less people fucking die; 6) You are the Mayor of allegedly the last city on Earth(?). Make it make sense. It's not that it's impossible that the writers haven't decided to go with this - there's plenty of shit stories out there - but I really hope they haven't. >The Mayor doesn't have access to HDD, but So, a more reasonable explanation is that Carole Arna, was already working on the upgrade before the Eridu incident has happened. And the mayor, being her friend and all, was in the loop regarding that development, maybe even participating in it in one way or another. So, after the incident has happened, he had access to the """upgrade""", be it hardware, software, neither, or both, and all he needed to do is maybe finish some minor touches and get it to the siblings. That would make more sense, and it doesn't introduce any new plot holes, however even if that was always the plan - it was shoved up and out of order. As the result, the Mayflowers buildup was wasted, as we just get to talk with The Guy™ out of nowhere. The HDD buildup was wasted, because instead of foreshadowing the upgrade, building up to it, and then finally introducing it organically, it was literally shoved into the HDD by Lycaon as a matter of fact. On top of that, it's a very gamey moment of the story, because it's very clear (which is very bad) that the entire reason for the """upgrade""" to be introduced was to shove Proxies into the hollows because the TV is gone. And to make the matters worse, do you remember what was the first thing we did with this new "power"? That's right, we got to input "7777" into a console while Lycaon and Ellen were sucking our dick about it. tl;dr The problem with this entire sub-plot is that it's very functional and purposeful, caused solely and entirely by the TV removal, and handled very poorly. >I can see that you seem to think that loose plot points constitute a great offense I'm unironically completely fine with loose plot points actually. And I'm not saying that just to say something. I'm very willing to give the writers the benefit of the doubt and excuse most of the less-than-stellar writing by assuming existence of some completely baseless and purely theoretical details of the plot that are yet to be introduced. Or, failing that, which can at least be reasonably introduced without having the whole story fall apart, even if they never are. There's a lot of stuff like that in ZZZ and I'm not critical about it. It's just the specific mayor bit was handled so poorly, my routine of trying to thought up a fitting enough excuse for it keeps clashing with what we know about the game already. Hence why I'm this triggered by it. It's literally the consequence of me normally being very non-critical about the stories I care about. If I of all people start to notice something is off, it's gotta be horribly off.
>>390267 I don't remember that one, what did she say? I know Harin calls Seed an intelligent construct.
>>390274 I picked Lighter. I better be able to pick Pulchra at the next juncture.
>>390273 >Anby has no new trust events Goddamn it makes me sadge, just a couple events with the new uniform Hoyo you're killing me
>>390263 >moreso meant as in they're not reliant on human scaling to have them run around in the overworld the issue is that if your character is fuckhuge it looks retarded next to a very limited city map the devs already had a spergout about random play being bigger on the inside than it looks like on the outside >can just make it so you can't use them in the overworld anyway yeah they'll make it a firefly situation
>>390241 >>390251 you look at them when you meet up with them with in towns, spending 5 seconds as that agent when you're walking from howl to the coffee shop or 2 seconds from shiyu to disk cleanup is really not a big deal. and it clearly was something that took time and resources to get done and is now factored into the development of every agent since the change was implemented. that work could've been put into better combat animations, or hell that 4th animation in the menu that people talk about so often nowadays when a character doesn't have it
>>390277 >>390281 It feels like picking a starter pokemon... Im gonna roll with jane
>>390280 Trigger says they just tell S11 that because she’s retarded and that Seed’s circumstances are a little more complicated, but she doesn’t delve into it
>>390280 S11 calls Sneed an intelligent construct Toriga said that S11 is exactly right in saying that, meaning he's either more advanced or less advanced than an intelligent construct, or something completely different
>>390287 as far as i can tell the decisions in this "event" do literally nothing
>>390290 Toriga said that S11 ISN'T exactly right in saying that* I gotta go to sleep bwos....
>>390291 Its the principle of it that matters.
>>390286 not being able to just play as the character is kind of an untenable flaw for most people. it's the kind of thing you'd expect from a PNG gacha from 10 years ago and not a game released last year. it was a literal deal breaker for casuals, there was no way they could go on without addressing it.
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>>390249 Eh-Nah-Eh?!?
I'm happy Pan is getting more art the closer we get to 2.0. Also spoiler pic is too lewd so beware...
>>390281 >>390291 Janes text btw Kinda curious about miyabi and lighters now...
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>>390249 What if sneed is actually for Eous instead.....
>>390286 >spending 5 seconds as that agent when you're walking from howl to the coffee shop or 2 seconds from shiyu to disk cleanup is really not a big deal actually i guarantee you that more people have started this game cause of the clips of jane/zhu/evelyn's ass jiggling while walking in town than whatever stupid shit sneedfags would think works best
>>390314 Eous with that triple plump mode...
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>>390306 protective jane a cute
>>390319 Lighter is a puppy. Protect the puppy. Funny enough I pulled him just now, but before even doing this event.
>>390279 >That's similar to a minor part of HDD's functionality. >HDD is, again HOLLOW Deep Dive system. TOPS don't have anything similar to it. They do though, them and the Exaltists have something like it. How do you think Phaethon was attacked with Fairy shut down. The story explicitly set up multiple Fairy tier AIs with unkown status. >It's highly likely that Carole Arna has developed both, which links them, but the whole point of that encounter with Evelyn was to have some buildup for how actually outstanding HDD is. Yes, which is why Fairy being shut down like she was was scary and meant to show you there's something else out there comparable to it in power otherwise there would be no stakes in the story. >You are taking it as "they have something similar" when in fact, the whole point was literally the opposite of that - they have nothing even remotely similar to it. They do though, the whole point of setting up several AIs like Fairy is so that they come into play somehow in the main story. Again, Fairy could not be incap'd if this weren't the case. As for all those points about intergrating the AI, it's an experiemntal technology and one that's incredibly expensive. You're not going to be able to push it into the HIA and NEDF systems overnight, it's like wondering why it took so long for the 60's NASA computers to have a home/corporate equivalent.
So who's going to be the rate-up A-rank alongside Pan? Khorne? Nicole?
>>390331 pulchra for furry-maxxing in the big update
>>390331 I'm predicting Pulchra since they changed her passive to activate with rupture agents.
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>>390331 Khorne? Corn is not the blood god
>>390320 Fiercly protective jane...
>>390328 >wuwafag filtered nice
>>390328 Opening this was an attack, rolling for damage 3d4 = 5 psychic damage
>>390317 >actually i guarantee you that more people have started this game cause of the clips of jane/zhu/evelyn's ass jiggling while walking in town I am mad Pulchra doesn't have similar ass care taken.
>>390328 >does not break hatii shield >lycaon physical attacks >does not finish lighter ora ora string >ults for daze with 95% daze >spams 2 hugo EXs, cancels the second with an ultimate on unstunned target #1 wuwa player here
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>>390328 >this guy sucks! The lack of self awareness here as he needs to ask his chat very basic questions about the game and clearly has not even skimmed his characters kits.
>>390339 Wait... this guy SUCKS! >pretend I rolled 6d8 psychic damage because idk how to use dice on here
>>390340 She really should've She even has the shorts for it
>>390328 This dude has been appearing all over my youtube feed recently. Why did this guy blow up
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>>390178 I only have this for idols sorry There's not much of them (yet)
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>>390336 i'm glad this interpretation of her is essentially canon, it's cute
>>390353 Retarded inflammatory takes about HP inflation making the game impossible to clear without whaling
>>390328 >ults to stun >doesn't Lighta ORA ORA >hot swaps to Hugo and totalizes with his fucking special attack >THEN ULTS AFTER THE STUN IS OVER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHOW ARE PEOPLE THIS DUMB
I'm tempted to make a youtube account that plays wuwa and completely butchers it and misunderstands everything in that game just like Saint tbh it seems like a good bit and makes money somehow
>>390335 I may have to try my hand at some sloppa for this.
>>390344 >Average player We will never get good puzzle content because of people like this and it makes me sad
>>390153 To compile something for a different platform is not the same as to write code for something you don't know or have. That's why I accept the idea of the mayor (or his people) working on the upgrade along with the teacher, and thus being able to finish it - as that's not really something particularly implausible, but I do not accept the idea that he was able to develop one from scratch without having access to the piece of the technology in question. And I have mentioned multiple times why exactly him having one is a very bad idea for the overall story. To give you an example, if you want to go there, let's say you have to develop a new game for NES, assuming no Internet or platform knowledge. If you have all the necessary docs and are aware of it's API, that's a relatively trivial task. If you have none of the docs but you have a NES itself, you can reverse-engineer it and make a game that way. It's a very difficult task but it's still doable If you don't have the docs AND you don't have a NES, then it's literally impossible. Trying to develop something under those conditions is akin to trying to guess a hash. Theoretically possible, retarded in practice. I hope you can see why it's such a contentious point for me. And it's not an example of good writing, when the story pushes you into scenarios like this one when you stop and think about it. >>390142 I like the story of this gacha game. It's a big deal to me. >>390147 >The Mayor very clearly has access to tech like this I really hope he doesn't, it would be a horrible addition to the story, as I have explained before. >and he's not the only one Also highly unlikely, because that's one of the core plot points. There are pieces of technology just as advanced as HDD - take Fairy for example but they all are essentially some sort of "lost technomagic" - unique artifacts the story revolves around. "The HDD is ackchually the most basic thing ever" is not something I want to see the story ever do. It's not completely out of the question, because, again, there are plenty of shit stories out there, but so far ZZZ's plot tried to avoid shit writing. >which we found out when PUBSEC almost arrested Phaethon. I get why you're saying this, but there is a dozen of better explanations for this issue that do not hinge on other people having access to HDD of their own.
>>390298 guess it just doesn't click with me the same way it does with other people then, cause to me saying that we're not able to play our agents because we can't walk around town with them sounds so dramatic that it's laughable. so it'll always seem like a waste to me, but hell it's in and it'd be even crazier for them to discontinue it now so the game is stuck with it
>>390361 Streamers are literally incapable of reading anything that doesn't have a shitty twitch emote attached to it, so don't expect him to even bother reading any of the character's ability descriptions Never heard of this guy but seeing how other anon's are saying he's a wuwa cc, he's probably trying to make ZZZ look like shit just to spite it, assuming he's one of the anti-hoyo wuwa types
>>390331 >>390333 >>390334 I fucking hope so, I will roll her to maximum this time for sure. I've been running her without her ball as C3 for way too long and I hate it. Don't know what limited banner I should roll as a just in case while I do this though. Juju? >>390352 Brother don't I know it. Maybe thy'll will fix that since she's thankfully a dev pet
These threads are too fast. I came back home and started catching up, didn't get to post anything and now I gotta sleep and get back to work tomorrow, FUCK
>>390328 is this why the puzzles are brain-dead easy
>>390382 Get yourself a bangboo to summarize the threads for you
>>390328 reminder this the guy who said zzz is hard and hp is a problem
>>390337 I started as a WuWa player, still am really, but holy shit some of the mechanics in ZZZ aren't that difficult to grasp He's just spamming buttons with no comprehension on why he's not doing any damage It's just a streamer being retarded and bad at games, as per usual
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>>390382 don't worry too much about keeping up with them, it's not like you're gonna miss anything by missing a thread other than the balloon debacle i guess
>>390279 We didn't even have much buildup to it, whatever you say this shits on you likely thought about it yourself. Also, you're implying that anyone could use the original HDD but you need the proxies' eye implants to use it. Another technology we don't know much about. I agree with most of your conjecture, though. I also like Ellen sucking my dick. But that part was also to slowly ease us up into the whole going inside Hollows ourselves. Slowly as they could achieve with such rushed developments. In fact, you could say that rushed developments are the reason for the unceremonious upgrade from big guy Mayor himself, as thing were getting out of hand quicker than expected in-story. The story can't really fall apart if it's loosely connected in the first place. The foundations that are the lore and backstory of everything haven't been clearly laid out for us. In a way, they have leeway to wing it. You can't make a hole in the plot if the hole was already there. But the story is objectively rushed, or so I think. Version 1.5 was lacking a whole middle section, and went from the beginning of the conflict to the climax quite abruptly. The Outer Ring story was extremely fast paced too, there was only a single competition and then Caesar became the Overlord. It's a matter of expectations. This isn't a story based gacha, action comes first. Just sit back and relax for now. We were all left wondering for quite a while how the hell did we tank Bringer's explosion. We'll see where the plot goes as we go along.
>>390363 Wuwa would need more dedicated haters for that to work.
>>390361 Also not only using Hugo's ultimate out of stun but using it midway through an EX animation to chew the energy but do none of the damage or daze
>>390336 kinda crazy that the agents just said yeah come to the hollow with us proxy, I know they're all talking about how they'll protect em but eous is right there bro
>>390398 the balloon will be forever immortalized in 8chan's legacy
>>390395 HP inflation will be an eventual problem if they keep doing it every patch but currently it's not TOO much of an issue for most of the playerbase
>>390379 hes just a retard who makes clickbait vids, worthless individual
>>390398 Well I'm glad I did NOT skip anything this time around, tons of leaks got posted, really exciting stuff >>390390 I'm thinking about setting up an external network to use the site at work, not sure how to go about that though, I'll have to figure something out
>>390406 it's not surprising considering half of them would just love the opportunity to get the proxy alone where no one can interfere for a few hours
>>390289 >>390290 Isn't it because Seed wants to become human? Though that's from the leaked backstory.
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>>390395 If I don't laugh I'll cry
>>390372 >I really hope he doesn't, it would be a horrible addition to the story, as I have explained before. It's not though, we know next to nothing about old Eridu or our teacher, he's a narrative device for introducing these things whether he's friend or foe. >Also highly unlikely, because that's one of the core plot points. In the beginning of the game they set up like 4-7 other AIs like Fairy specifically for this reason. >"The HDD is ackchually the most basic thing ever" is not something I want to see the story ever do. It's explicitly not, it's setting up that Fairy is a temperamental, dangerous, and experimental AI. And that in more capable hands it can do some real harm. It's also setting up the factions that want to use something like Fairy and why they want to use it. The fact that Fairy Ais are limited in quantity and not run of the mill is what makes these factions dangerous should they have it. This also defeats the purpose of your point of integrating this tech into the mundane. Not only is it a power hog and might shut down the whole grid, but you see how powerful Fairy is and what the counter fairy AI was able to do. You cannot have that power haphazardly working the HIA over, even guys who know how to use it can be at it's mercy, not a wise thing to do.
>>390414 >12 videos >6 videos are related to hoyoverse in a way #2 wuwa creator here
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>>390398 I'm pathetically proud that my reply was what led to BalloonAnon to reveal his power. Also proud that I requested the sovlful drawfag to draw this. BalloonAnon's influence has dried it's way into the part of my life dedicated to this general.
>>390406 I dont think its particularly strange Part of the reason they tagged along after the upgrade was to verify the results of the upgrade to the HDD on their body anyways And having one proxy inside the hollow and one proxy controlling eous is a general benefit once they learn how to fend for themselves
>>390407 Can I get a screencap or something? I know there's that guy that posted something about filling a balloon with something something salt water solution and then licking it imaging its Vivians armpit, but was there anything else to it?
>>390429 You should start a monitor cleaning service to celebrate your newfound power
>>390433 over right here >>387990
>>390278 Oh that dialogue, that was more her own pessimism talking. She's still passed the apple test, but this was meant to show that she felt humans thought her worthless just like bangboo who also can pass that test. It felt self deprecating but all it did was piss me off since Billy's our bro. >>390319 I didn't expect Lighter to need praise. So this was curious to me.
>>390433 >>390438 he later stated that he cummed and it spilled in his computer screen because he was busy with the hand holding a balloon and the cum sat there for days because he didn't care to clean
>>390420 My guess is that Seed is a non-intelligent robot who somehow gained sentience, which is why he wouldn’t be an “Intelligent Construct” like Billy or Qingyi
>>390404 it just gets worse the longer you look at this Yong Yea knock off
>>390433 The big deal was that an anon mentioned he had a big edge session over Vivian and shot his load all over his monitor and left it to dry there for weeks, I asked him why he didn't just catch his load with his hand or with a tissue and he said he had a balloon in his hand, then someone replied with this screenshot >>387990
>>390442 lighter is insecure about his fighting past so he needs validation that he is fighting for something worth doing it at the present
>>390329 >They do though, them and the Exaltists have something like it. They literally don't. We haven't seen a single example of in-Hollow communication not coming from Phaethon so far. >How do you think Phaethon was attacked with Fairy shut down. But that's completely unrelated. Fairy is not a part of HDD, at least not originally. The idea that you need anything even remotely similar to HDD to disable Fairy is completely baseless and comes out of nowhere. >1) HDD is not in a Hollow; So you don't need another HDD to connect to it >2) Fairy is an AI with a shitload of secrets So she can easily have numerous kill-switches built into it >3) Fairy uses a shitload of power and she's connected to the public grid So she might not even function normally if you limit the power to the building >4) Fairy might even be an always-online SaaS piece of shit tech So disconnecting her from the Inter-Knot might actually be enough to shut her down, at least temporarily Like, the explanation with the most potential is the kill-switch one, i.e. the raid was initiated by someone related to the AIs, but it can be any of those and some more. At no point does this imply the necessity to have another HDD somewhere else. >The story explicitly set up multiple Fairy tier AIs with unkown status. Yes, AIs are cool and advanced, but HDD is HDD and AIs are AIs. There can be multiple pieces of incredibly advanced technology that has little to nothing in common. >As for all those points about intergrating the AI But HDD is not an AI and Fairy is not HDD. The fundamental technology behind it is the ability to maintain the connection within Hollows. Siblings could do that long before they got their hands on Fairy. There is no excuse to not have this technology, no matter how limited and experimental it is, to not be in obvious and very public use and development. No excuse that wouldn't sound retarded, to be more specific. In fact, in the lore that would make sense it's almost guaranteed that someone would be constantly trying to develop technology like that - Carole Arna was just the first to succeed - and observe how that makes all the sense in the world. Having access to it in during the literal apocalypse and just not fucking using it - not even trying to - would be incredibly retarded.
>>390446 I was thinking she'd be quite like Chin'i, who has ancient Chinese memories. Or maybe just a goofball, since she eats flowers and tries to pass as human with a disguise while looking like a giant mech.
>>390420 We won't know if they kept his backstory from the leak until he appears in the story. The leak made him seem like a tragedyKino character, but all the little tidbits we got in the game so far makes him seem like a goofy weirdo
>>390433 >anon mentions he has a dried jizz stain on his monitor >Immediate WHAT!? ensues >explains he blasted to Vivi and never cleaned it >thread asks why he didn't use a tissue >"I had a balloon in my other hand don't ask why" >several people pull up a month old screenshot of an anon describing making a Vivi sideboob facimile out of a balloon That's the cliff notes version of the legend of Balloon guy.
>>390467 They could still have both. Many characters have a cool or fun video trailer, and then another video with their tragic backstory and post apocalyptic horror. Granted she's an S rank.
>>390473 Yeah I hope they keep his backstory, I like light-hearted and goofy characters that are revealed to have tragic backstories Which is also why I hope Billy has some secret tragic backstory too
>>390468 but why did he put hair gel in the balloon what does that add also why didn't he go full goon with a tenga or fleshlight? smh amateurs these days if I was still in my prime I'd be jerking off every day
>>390424 >It's not though, we know next to nothing about old Eridu or our teacher, he's a narrative device for introducing these things whether he's friend or foe. It is, though. And I explained why. If you want to say "nuh-huh" you'll need to elaborate on your points if you want me to take you seriously. Him being ambiguous, questionable, etc. doesn't make the whole thing any less retarded. You see, if he's actually a Big Bad™ and literally Hitler (the bad kind), that wouldn't make the plot point any less retarded. In fact, I would expect a Big Bad™ to provide a better explanation that what we got. >In the beginning of the game they set up like 4-7 other AIs like Fairy specifically for this reason. >It's explicitly not, it's setting up that Fairy is a temperamental, dangerous, and experimental AI. You keep conflating AIs and HDD for some reason. They are not the same. Even disregarding the fact that Fairy has effectively disappeared from the story, she's not a part of the conversation right now. Nor was she a part of the conversation for the "upgrade" sub-plot. >Not only is it a power hog So, aside from the whole "Fair and HDD are different things", that part is objectively wrong, because the whole thing about Fairy using a shitload of power implies that before Fairy, siblings weren't using a shitload of power. So HDD is fairly energy-efficient. By Fairy standards at least.
>>390431 the first time after the upgrade I can kinda understand, though I would expect a much smaller ordeal than the one they actually went with. but I think the reaction that Jane has in that comic is a much better representation of what I would expect to have happen considering how much all the agents care about the proxies. I do understand the benefit once they go through their kung fu training montage and learn how to fend for themselves like you mention it's just that they're so far away from that when this whole thing started
>>390483 I'm gonna be honest dawg, I am outside the realm of hair gel filled saltwater dipped sideboob masturbation aids I don't fucking know. Clearly there is some level of gooner shit beyond my understanding.
>>390254 I laughed
>>390486 You also have to consider that most Hollow Investigators are not good at self defense and work in teams being the support. Or rather, the map.
>>390456 >We haven't seen a single example of in-Hollow communication not coming from Phaethon so far. How in the fuck could big organizations like Tops or Exaltists communicate or deal in the hollow and not have tech similar to it. >But that's completely unrelated. >Fairy is not a part of HDD, at least not originally. She intergrated perfectly, I was under the assumption the tech needed something like Fairy to function since both are related to whatever Teacher was doing in old Eridu. >The idea that you need anything even remotely similar to HDD to disable Fairy is completely baseless and comes out of nowhere. Why would you not? You can't shut down something as advanced as that system and Fairy without having comparable power to it, or a direct line to the thing itself. >So you don't need another HDD to connect to it why is this relevant >So she can easily have numerous kill-switches built into it what the fuck are you even on about >So she might not even function normally if you limit the power to the building This is true and established, but not what the opposing tech did to her at all. >So disconnecting her from the Inter-Knot might actually be enough to shut her down, at least temporarily How are you even doing this without HDD power systems or fairy tier AI, makes no sense. >Like, the explanation with the most potential is the kill-switch one, i.e. the raid was initiated by someone related to the AIs, but it can be any of those and some more. Most of those explanations don't work. >At no point does this imply the necessity to have another HDD somewhere else. Exaltists explicitly operate inside the hollows and with the hollows. There's even some freaky white star institute fuck communicating within the hollow zero, or did you forget that. Then there's TOPS which needs operations inside and out of it, but nobody has something even rudimently similar to this? And all of this just to say anybody else having a HDD similar system is a massive plot hole? Come on.
>>390485 >And I explained why. And you did a shit job because there's not much reason it is bad. >If you want to say "nuh-huh" you'll need to elaborate on your points if you want me to take you seriously. As if I need you to take me seriously, fuck off lmao.
what are u bluds yapping about fr
>>390511 We're just melting phones.
>>390512 m-melting phones?!?!?!?!
>>390502 Someone shut fairy down by fucking with our electric box though... She was kaput for what, a full day after that? A bad thunderstorm could take out fairy...
>>390512 Why melt phon when you can Ling Phon
bread?
>>390455 Poor Lighter. I hope we get more info on all agents with the relationship extensions we're allegedly getting. >>390420 What leak?
>>390516 Not during the big PubSec thing, wasn't that a different unrelated story
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MOVE MOVE MOVE >>390520 >>390520 >>390520
>>390501 guess it is easy to forget how plebeian proxies have to operate so most agents would be used to dragging one around. but with how protective they are all when it comes to phaethon you'd think they'd do the thing that protects them the most which is not bringing them in when they have the option to not do it
>>390521 I don't have it, but there was an image with the backstory of each Obol members. But I think some things have changed.
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>>390399 >We didn't even have much buildup to it Mayflowers were mentioned in the lore, there's a movie about them, and they started to be name-dropped bit by bit in the conversations and events. Basically, yes, you are right, we didn't have much buildup. And that's the problem. We only just started getting buildup to something very big, to just skip to the middle of the story, so we are now already working for the very big in question. Compare that to Hoshimi Mibibi, for example. Yeah, it also had plenty of issues, but at least we got to walk the entire path from start to finish, and the Season Finale, no matter how rushed it was, still felt nice. >Also, you're implying that anyone could use the original HDD but you need the proxies' eye implants to use it. Another technology we don't know much about. Eye implants is a fair point, but it hinges on something a bit too arbitrary to make sense. You said it yourself, that the Bangboo sync technology is out there in the wilds. Eye implants in humans might be something a bit too advanced, but the Proxies themselves don't have to go into the Hollows - that's kinda the point of using Eous instead. The implants could've if anything, been originally intended to specifically allow them to communicate inside Hollows in-person, that's why the technology had to be specifically implanted. The drop resulting drop in Ether Aptitude is likely to be the unforeseen consequence of that process, so the actual deep-dive system and sync with Eous was developed to find a way to work around that. So, assuming the others have access to the technology, we have to build a bunch of very specific excuses, like >"the organic implants are absolutely necessary" Sure, Ether Corruption and whatnot. But then what about Eous? He's not organic. >"Implants are necessary to use HDD for the purpose of in-Hollow communication, even if the user stays completely out of the hollow" Why, though? Like, sure, but why though? Sounds like a very arbitrary restriction to be. And so on. If Eous is revealed to actually be organic, that'd be kinda impressive, but I'm pretty sure we already had Grace molest him a bit and she didn't discover anything like. I did say in the original post, I liked the overall story. It's just the mayor moment that felt like a massive drop in quality compared to everything else. And I can't really stop myself from seeing that the entire scene was caused solely and entirely by the TV removal. So it's not the arbitrary writers writing arbitrary crap, right. It's fucking ADHD retards who don't even play the game anymore who came, shat all over MY story, and then left and never looked back. This is what makes me mad.
>>390399 Chapter 4 starts with Caesar cleaning up scrubs to challenge Pompey in the first place and big Daddy saying he's retiring. The prelude to the race is in 1.1 when you talk to Burnice and Caesar with the old lady.
>>390328 holy fuck man this clip.
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>>390328 H-hey, we also didn't know you need three Defensive Assists to break Hati's armor... In 1.0~1.2...
>>390328 WuWa is harder btw
>>390372 he knew the proxies teacher. so, he most probably has documents or the pc/hdd carole arna used. sounds like an asspull? yes, very much. is it plausible? of course.


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