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/zzz/ - Zenless Zone Zero General Anonymous 06/19/2025 (Thu) 14:09:09 Id: 12e20a No. 574708
Previous: >>571475 >News Agent Record | Alice Thymefield https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39231485 Agent Record | Ukinami Yuzuha https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39218785 Season 2 Special TVCM https://youtu.be/bLEL0nU0LxI[Embed] Version 2.0 "Where Clouds Embrace the Dawn" Special Program https://youtu.be/ACjLWP_zviU[Embed] >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo https://youtu.be/B8qkTG12DJU[Embed] (EN) https://youtu.be/7VcpoJRa4kM[Embed] (JP) https://youtu.be/dJe0zuy7_6s[Embed] (EN) https://youtu.be/1iHQwA2kLQc[Embed] (JP) https://youtu.be/ffubdFPFlS8[Embed] (EN) https://youtu.be/eLDyyX4998I[Embed] (JP) https://youtu.be/l7S3fTAZUgk[Embed] (EN) https://youtu.be/REjNV-Q4YQo[Embed] (JP) >Upcoming Events for 2.0 https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/156753 Festival Channel 06/06 - 07/16 Failume Gift 06/06 - 07/15 Soul of Steel: Golden Bond 06/06 - 07/07 Golden Proxy Awards Annual Ceremony 06/06 - 06/23 Gravitational Attraction 06/08 - 07/14 Holographic Onslaught Arena 06/13 - 06/30 Special Cleanup - Triple Bounty 06/18 - 06/23 Tiger's Billowing Roar 06/25 - 07/14 En-Normous Surprise 06/25 - 07/15 Operation Yum 06/28 - 07/14 Combat Training - Triple Bounty 07/04 - 07/09 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online) https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption ZENLESSGIFT ZZZ2NDSEASON ZZZ20NEWSEASON >Resources and useful links https://rentry.org/zzzlinks https://rentry.org/ZZZ-drawpile https://rentry.org/ZZZFriends >/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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Finally, I'm free from the Anby/Chinky ID
Reposting for help Is this ok for M0W1 or do I go back to the mines, 4pc Yunkui 2pc Woodpecker
The more I think about it, the more I hate Geppetto. His stupid fucking carousel is so mentally deflating. I get what they're trying to do, it's probably some sort of test run for AoE status ailments but the implementation is just so dumb. It's basically a moviegame quicktime event, and all I need to do is repeatedly press the dodge button. Add the fact that he basically gives up fighting if you hurt him enough(Impair) and he just comes off as the biggest fucking dweeb in the game, like I'm supposed to give him wedgies at lunchbreak or something. What the fuck were the devs thinking when they released him?
The rat bush in the last thread made me hard at work.
>>574717 IT'S NOT FUNNY
>>574716 Seems fine. Mine has a bit lower stats and I score like 40k. Focus her if you like her. I use interknot and if my items are at least rated S I leave them be
[NEW INFO REVEALED TO ME IN A DREAM] Caesar changes: EX special can now trigger a quick assist
>ben gets bearcreeped by ben ben bros...its over...
>>574716 Way better than mine
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>>574715 rolling on this special mibibi-teenth
>>574722 >>574730 Alright I'm calling it there then, still need to spend more time in the mines after all because I didn't know that Jufufu's disk set is apparently BiS for Trigger also...
I did the Shiyu, bros! Watch my clears, bros!
>open door to spook shack >see this
DA WEEEEEEEEEEI! MAKE ORPHIE A RUPTURE/FIRE AGENT, AND MY WALLET IS YOOOOOOOURS!
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(1) for me!
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>>574747 request denied. water/healer
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We love Yi Xuan here
>>574755 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MY PROMOTION
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>>574747 >he is still in denial that Orphie is going to be fire anomaly oh no no no no
When will we get another bangboo story?
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<- clumsy wife
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>>574762 >tv Never? Hahahahaha
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>>574755 hmmm nyes I believe I see it chief
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>>574762 I hope the schizo boo wanderers eventually lead to a prophecy-tier kino mission
give a new id pls and thk
>>574760 How in the actual world did you come to that conclusion.

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>>574752 >Water I can only hope...
The carousel would actually be great if Geppetto was actually targetable while it happens AND he moved around and attacked. The AoE range would have to be bigger and the rotation speed would have to be a bit slower but the whole sequence would be more engaging that way. Even better if they also increased aggression, damage dealt, and damage taken for Geppetto in that duration so the player is forced to take risks and try to get hits in.
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>>574743 I already watched it on youtube bro
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are there any blue theme character in zzz that isn't soukaku? and why blue theme are so rare in zzz?
I never get tired of this view...
Finally my first 3-star clear after playing in 1.7
>performance points: 0
>>574786 I have no idea but I've been waiting for ages... I always main characters with blue as their main colour.
>>574777 have got eve the most times i dont even have her in game...
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>>574788 Gratz bro So that's like 2 months? Were you "tryharding" logging in everyday not wasting energy? I've always wondered how long it takes an account to be "endgame-ready" considering that the game has become more difficult now.
When I tell her to swallow or she eats dry bread for the rest of the month
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I JUST WOKE UP TO MIBIBI BIRTHDAY AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>574801 Should be around 2 months, yes. I do try to log in every day. Bless Vivian for carrying me early on.
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>>574788 Great job anon. It took me 6 months before I could get 3 stars on deadly assault, and I was here since 1.0.
hmmm I'm feeling Miyabi ID this time
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>>574788 Good job, anon! Try blocking next time, though!
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I fucking love oni
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>>574818 Deadly Assault was released like 5-6 months after launch.
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banging . . . BOOS!
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>>574727 3.0 patch will have off field, rupture, polar bear for maximum bear creep as we find Koleda's dad. Trust me bro, my dad works for Genshin Impact.
my id determines who I jerk to, tell me if I won bros
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>>574832 we are legion
fucking chinky sexy but way too common What is the rarest ID anyway dont think ive seen a butnice one ever
>>574843 I think it's Eous, I've only seen it once.
>>574843 I rarely see a Piper ID
>>574822 Don't you need panda for the block? Pulchra has evasive assist so I can't really chain them. I'm kinda spent so no more resources for Mr. Panda
>Grace ID looking for Euos ID RUN, MY SON
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Pic that BROKE /zzz/
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>>574849 Oh, right, I missed the fact there's two Evasive Assists on the team, my bad.
>>574850 >TFW it next shows up on the Banging Boos guy
>>574715 I swear Anby and Chinky have boosted rates I always get them too
>>574853 l-lewd
So like lore wise how strong is Fufu gonna be?
>>574718 Nineveh is kind of annoying too, maybe they were going for that. Don't look forward to the next HZ boss, Arpeggio tells us it's something that spins web or silk. So something like a giant spider or bug. It's bound to be annoying.
>>574870 This thread is being monitored by Pubsec, I fear
>>574875 Wasn't Arpeggio foreshadowing Geppetto? I thought the red silk became the strings Geppetto used to control things.
>>574778 The disorder support and phys anomaly agents coming right before lmaoooo, anomalyGODS win again attacksissy
>>574875 >Arpeggio The TV mode? I don't remember it saying anything. But then I wasn't paying much attention then either...
>>574718 >>574875 Next boss is probably this Hoba
>>574895 Hoba faceful of booby
>>574874 Like 2 or 3.
>>574890 No matter what I will just use Orpheus/Trigger/Seed
post vidoes of zzz divegrass pls
>>574787 I got a Wipeout in that pose but she directly hit the bangboo with her butt once. A shame I didn't grab it.
>>574870 I get them, Fairy, or Koleda all the time
>>574895 Really hoping for a silent ominous boss soon enough, just Tibetans monk singing with occasional gong hits Pic related, meeting this motherfucker in the mirror dungeon scared the shit out of me
>>574886 Could be, but there were traces of silk everywhere and Geppetto only uses its string close to that ominous core that controls the big ethereal. And its main thing is coordinating ethereals, but I don't remember if that was a thing in Arpeggio.
Damn, girl could die from all this thirst
>>574964 What is it with lesbian artists and drawing one of the women with masculine features
>>574978 gays do this too, its a faggot coping mechanism
>>574978 could be just perspective related making zhu's chin look longer but doesnt really look masculine to me with zhu's fat fucking thighs
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>>574913 Here you gwo
Has anyone made a map of the new areas with all loots and mobs marked?
>>574978 lesbos love handsome ladies.
>>574999 The game does this for you by going to one of the eyeball markers
>>574954 Beautiful homophobia.
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>>575009 Not the big markers, I'm talking about trash mobs and crafting mats, like in picrel. To ease daily gathering.
>>575011 Fetal alcohol syndrome is so cute!
>>575010 >Heterochromic nipples. Holy fuck... Something has awakened in me...
Rollan id
evelyns unite
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>>575010 >Those nipples
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>>575024 Damn, this is all I needed. Thanks. Here, have a cute rat.
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>>575043 did we really need to go that hard on a bunch of cripples
>>575043 Are the matches actually played by people or are they simulated?
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>>575060 Kenji tried to make Trigger more of a cripple than she already is. They deserved it
>>575066 Managed by a real person but the matches themselves are simulated
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Last one
>>574805 Stop bullying her ffs
>>575076 >Mibibi! >MIBIBI!
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>>575070 trigger is basically daredevil
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Mkay, I'm very pleased with my Shiyu run. Next onto figuring out Shishou. And mono Ice. And Pompey a bit, because I had to reset the fight to do the goddamn Ellen comparisons
>>574992 >>575003 ty but is that it?
Bros, I just got into the chrono obyssey beta test
>>574992 What did they mean by this
Sometimes, I wanna fuck Chinatsu and spend all night cuddling with her. Other times, I wanna do so with Rokudo. Then, there are some days of the week where all I desire to do, is to plap Yutanes little robotic ass. Thats the beauty of men sexual nature; polygamy. I love all my girls, and I love each one for different reasons.
>>575166 Corn is a good maid
>>575166 Corn is a maid and dutifully cleaning an ojou's boots.
>>575166 >score goal >start worshipping Lucy's feet Relatable
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>>575203 I love Venus so much... I hope she really is in the beach episode...
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I really hope she isn't bad I don't have Yi Xuan
R1 BP wengine or R5 puzzle?
>>575224 I could be wrong but iirc R5 bp engine is only a mild improvement over R5 puzzle. Just go for the f2p option. Or you could use a crit rate ball.
What happens when it updates?
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>>575247 Bretty gud
Rome...
>>575247 Does everyone improve simply by throwing on a qipao
>>575247 Is there a version with her actual, realistic Japanese hips?
>>575244 All the battles get replaced by new ones with new rewards. Old rewards are lost if not completed by then.
I'm hungry
>>575262 Qipaos and dirndls.
jufu fu doko i need 100%....
>>575280 Me too
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>>574964 what the fuck? my useless little sister is wearing her shoes into FUCKING bed and leaving ME to wash the muddy footprints out of her sex stained bedsheets??!
Hey there cutie. Want to go for a ride?
>>575317 zhu is the one getting the bed all muddy. belle has one shoe on and the foot that's wearing it is off the bed
>>575332 You can't blame Zhu though, she's the one getting raped
>>575340 I want to see Qing Yi's face when Zhu tries to put that spin on the story.
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>>575360 why does zzz always attract fast-food sponsors
>>575381 Because gacha players are fat nerds, you market to your playerbase.
>>575381 Because they know their players don't even know how to cook rice
Why did the doompost meta go from dooming that a DPS won't work without a specific support to dooming that a support won't work without a specific DPS?
>>575381 kids and teens like to eat fast food and they overlap with the player base. Its not like ZZZ should sponser the PGA tour and suddenly expect middle age white bald ceos to start picking up the game. They did sponser the street fighter segment of the last EVO though i think? so maybe they were hoping gamers from that genre to pick up gacha.
>>575388 Bwo Fufu will be useless without Shifu.
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>>575397 eve tho..
>>575388 Because everyone has already rolled enough DPS agents so now it's all about who the supports can support
>>575397 >character that plays itself with 0 on-field uptime is bad I will roll M1W1 Fufu I skipped Shifu I will use her with S11\Eve\Soukaku DPS\SAnby\Billy
>>575408 Eve is useless with Lighter who is useless without Hugo who is useless without Fufu >>575409 >everyone has already rolled enough DPS agents
>>575388 It's really only stunners that get this treatment, and you can thank Astra for that. Lighter got shitposted before that point though because he's male.
>>575408 >>575420 I was obviously being ironic. Saying Fufu is useless without Shifu is like saying Trigger is useless without Sanby which is retarded.
>>575421 <>everyone has already rolled enough DPS agents true. i am only rolling orpheus because she is cute not because i need her. even though my eve is useless without lighter so i actually do
>>575409 >everyone my only limited DPS are ellen, zhu, and burnice there are also 0 (ZERO) supports in this game that are useless outside of their BIS team. all of them can be used evne if they're not necessarily optimal. fufu has good generalist buffs and will work with every attacker in the game other than homomasa who does zero damage outside of stun
i've let a Nekomata chatbot get isekai'd into a Lona chatbot's world. Pretty funny to just read and watch it play out
>>575432 >there are also 0 (ZERO) supports in this game that are useless outside of their BIS team there is one (1). the panda. orphie will save him.
>>575445 okay, true, but this is only because there is only 1 rupture character in the game right now
>>575445 But Orphie will be an Attacker and Komano will be Rupture. Source: it came to me in a dream.
>>575284 holy zzz enjoyer
>>575437 >Nekomata chatbot get isekai'd into a Lona chatbot's world Harapan anon would cum to that
>>575460 i forgot seth is in the game to be perfectly honest okay, i will specify that there are 0 (ZERO) LIMITED supports that are useless outside of their BiS teams.
>>575460 Works with Jane and Yanagi, will probably work with Alice too but it'll be equally cope
>>575460 you can use seth for yanagi or alice if you really want to. he won't be the bis support but his buff is decent. of course burnice/vivian are better slots than him in every possible anomaly team.
>>575465 Neko-Daughterwife anon's worst nightmare
>Astra Miyabi Trigger makes Palicus easy af I'm retarded Went with Caesar/Nicole instead of Trigger in old patches and it took way too long.
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>>575485 This you?
>>575460 I already have zero idea what function Seth serves, and am now assured he has zero with Yuzuha soon. Now I'm just waiting for it to be revealed that his brother is Mewmew and is now a T0 support agent to make him entirely irrelevant.
>>575504 Seth buffs a single character's AP by 150 and has 20% Anomaly DEF shred. He's not awful, but almost every anomaly character would rather play disorder teams. Officer Mewmew being someone actually high ranked and important would be so kino.
>>575504 I use Seth in Yanagi mono-Electric teams. I wish I had Trigger instead
>>575510 >He's not awful, but almost every anomaly character would rather play disorder teams. And also his buff isn't strong enough to make up for being single target so he can't replace supports with full-team buffs like lucy in those disorder teams either.
>>575501 Maybe
>Now Anby, have sex with Number 11 Why did she do it?
>>575518 >>575485 Oh we've got a real clone kisser here Nice tastes
>>575521 nekoball > puzzle ball > marcato
>>575521 I would go with Marcato Less RNG = gooder
>>575521 say what you will about prydwen but their engine calcs are generally fine. the difference in performance is negligible so more crit consistency is probably better here
I managed to learn how to properly import textures. Left is my attempt at doing that, right is the original. Not perfect, but servicable enough, could make it closer to the real thing if I just tweak some settings. It's only a matter of time before I make a working skin swap.
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I'm gonna goon
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>>575547 Do it.
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good morning bibibwos
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That triple disk event blessed me with an incredible King of the summit set. About time I get something worth in those fucking mines.
>>575576 Show stats
>>575594 Not bad
>>575379 >nicole will never kiss you..not unless there is a hefty amount of dennies
>>575603 45,6% crit rate on 4pc, wish means this set activates itself. A godsend when swapping disks.
So how long has the meta for gacha content creators been "account help?" I was curious one day and popped into some random creators stream cause it showed up on my youtube. Wtf is wrong with the average player. Are they just doing it for attention from their creator god? How are they watching ZZZ live streams and then asking for "help" and doing shit like using 4pc swing jazz on evelyn and pulling Astra but not building her and not levelling skills at all on ANY character but still trying endgame
>>575613 if the average player are unable to do tv puzzles imagine how awful all their disks are lmao
I don't think he's coming back
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>>575599 first this THOT won't leave my video store... now this...
>>575613 Stream watchers are all cucks and humiliation fetishists. Why would you watch someone to play a video game for you? You might as well pay someone to fuck your wife. They'll also make their account look as stupid as possible and then pay the streamer to humiliate them in front of their audience. It's the only possible explanation.
>>575613 I've played games for a long time and I can honestly tell you the average person has no fucking clue how to do anything without being spoon fed a step by step build. It's not even a gacha thing it's always been like this.
>>575613 If you ever want to lose faith in humanity, work in customer service Had a remote customer support role, and I honestly thought I was being fucked with with how goddamn retarded the average person is.
>>575625 >Why would you watch someone to play a video game for you? You might as well pay someone to fuck your wife. this is a pretty insane leap of logic i do agree that a lot of these people are probably deliberately bricking their accounts in advance of the account reviews just because they want to get a better reaction out of the streamer. flexing a normal, competently built account isn't good content, but i also don't see the point of making content for them.
>>575613 Gacha is basically just gambling for dweebs. Kinda like Pokemon tcg booster packs.
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>>575629 And the spoonfeeding is only gonna get worse with LLMs. I can already see it at my workplace. Shit is gonna go out of control really fast in the education.
>>575619 I just cannot wrap my head around these people. What kind of drooling monkeys are they in life? They make this game a part of their daily ritual in their life, and even watch content creators cause they like it so much, but are just walking wastes of oxygen that need to be told "Yeah, your miyabi should probably not be running a-rank discs with def% main stat if you're having trouble with shiyu defense" >>575629 Yeah I'm inclined to agree, but these people don't even PICK UP THE SPOON THEMSELVES. Like atleast wow players go to icy veins and mindlessly copy a build that makes them semi useful, it seems gacha players don't even visit >prydwen and get semi-sane builds.
>>575633 There's a difference between watching to learn and watching for "entertainment". There are people that will watch streamers play single player games with no competitive content instead of just playing that game themselves. If that's not cucking yourself I don't know what is.
>>575633 You're thinking too deep. A lot of people on social media don't have their own opinion. If the streamer finds it funny, then the viewers will find it funny too. That makes the stream entertaining for the viewer. It's a positive feedback loop that ends up in brainrot.
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I recently got to the fourth chapter, and I'm pleased to say that my choice to get a Caesar starter account based on her looks alone was worth it. Now I know her personality is great too and she's super cute.
>>575623 >follows you to Chinatown >makes sure to specifically tell you before watching her movie to pay close attention to her face >makes sure to casually bring up the topic of her kissing the veil after the movie >just happens to have kept that veil and offers to give it to you
>>575613 Casuals don't like any form of friction that gets in the way of their fun. Fortunately for content creators, and unfortunately for people like you who'd rather see actual ZZZ content, optimization falls into that. Discs and substats are too much for them, even in a game like ZZZ that gives you recommendations on what to build (this is before even getting into whether these reccs are good since they're just aggregating what the masses are doing)
>>575625 Streams are nice to put on as background noise when you're studying or sleeping but I don't understand people who sit down for hours and just watch someone play games. Most of it comes off as parasocial celebrity worship.
>>575642 i've watched streams of single-player games i've played already because i like the streamer and i want to see their interactions with something i enjoy, it's not that hard to figure out. i almost never watch streams for a game i have not already played myself though, that i don't understand. just read a review or something
>>575638 I want to roll LN.
>>575633 >this is a pretty insane leap of logic yeah people get retarded with these comparisons all the time
>>575613 I just assume it's their very first gacha game and they have absolutely no idea about the games mechanics or what to actually do. My first one I just tossed whatever gear the game gave me onto whatever character I thought looked the hottest and called it a day. ZZZ was like, the third gacha game I really got into and even with this one I didn't think to actually pay attention to substats on discs until long after I should have started paying attention to them.
>>575625 >Stream watchers are all cucks and humiliation fetishists projection, methinks
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>>575659 Another day, another new niche kink discovered.
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ave
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>>575681 the only good part ofthe costume
I hope I win my 50/50 on fufu, Sifu took 160 rolls and if Jufufu goes to double pity like that I'll have to skip Spookshack entirely
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>>575659 Now I can't stop thinking about licking the bibibutthole
>>575690 I hope you do too bro. I have her + ball guaranteed, but it'd be nice to not lose a 75/25 for once
>>575674 >check their twitter >no vivian one
how can stinky fox ever recover
i love vivi tits. post vivi tits
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>>575706 I thought she was the most beloved, bestest, most recognizable ZZZ...
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For me it's Vivi feet
>>575724 Cat sex is just too alluring. Even though I love Miyabi too
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>>575724 I still like the stinky fox
>>575552 Yanagi's delicious holes.
I didnt think fufu was that great to play to be honest. Why did they make another BA clickfest like qingyi lol
>>575742 if you are BA spamming with fufu you are literally using 5% of her kit
>>575688 thats the most important part that you see most of the time
How bricked is Shifu without her ball?
>>575742 You're playing her completely wrong.
>>575744 TBF I dont read the tutorials
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How Bricked is Shifu without her ball?
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*spits on Gr*ce*
You guys still send your Forfeitboo on adventures, right? You didn't recycle him...right?
>>575757 Now this one I'll reply to. She's fine without it, but it's still a massive increase almost equivalent to Miyabi ball.
>>575757 about as "bricked" as meebs is without her ball which is to say, not at all, but it does feel bad that she's essentially just a normal meta DPS without it and not the giga grandmaster of Yunkui Summit
>>575748 Not bricked at all. I was using kotball for a week and ended up pulling her sig. While it is clearly better it was honestly a bit underwhelming. It didn't feel as impactful as getting Sanby's ball I can tell you that much.
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>>575757 Have you seen her glow? Unequivocally and irredeemably bricked without it
>>575754 use assist follow ups and ex special and get the fuck out of the field the iron ball thing hits enemies for you and consumes her resource giving you buffs
So they stopped the anomaly shilling by making miasma sheilds an impenetrable 18 million HP brick wall?
>>575774 >>575757 Nvm you fooled me with your lust provoking image. I have no idea what Shifu's glow looks like
>>575779 >Poster that says "they don't read tutorials" dooms about miasma shield lol
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>>575748 Just use PEN discs bro
>>575781 I dont think I was doomposting, it just seems like anomaly was a gun in a rock paper scissors combat system that ZZZ devs prefer. It just forces me to get an agent that isnt anomaly once in a while, which is why I went for sheefoo
fishing with qingyi
>>575781 all of their posts read like bad bait
>>575787 miasma is a non-issue everywhere except task force investigation 12+ end boss just ult one and dodge counter and it falls off I honestly wish it was a little more strong so my ball-less yixuan was actually bis for this weeks shiyu and not my burnice vivian slop team
>>575594 >>575576 why 2 impact bonuses, can't be that good unless you're compensating for not having his ball?
>>575779 Miasma can be removed pretty consistently in under 30 seconds, but the current Miasma DA boss is ass for anomaly teams
>>575782 They need to make Vivian's doll look happier about it, like Sparkle doll.
>rock paper scissors combat system No idea what you're even talking about with this, but Miasma is just any old gimmick mechanic, you can break it easy as shit by defensive assisting.
>>575779 I will get 100% collection someday. That said I am not looking forward to playing the fishing with Wise as the MC on my new account. Not fond of listening to groaning men.
>>575779 miasma is mostly a non issue defensive assists, dodge counters and ultimates drain it well enough this is my anomaly clear on miasma priest
>>575796 >>575798 Right, that's who I just fought and meebs/yanagi just couldnt put a dent in that miasma shield. I had to rerun it with sheefoo. I also dont know how to play her so I should probably get on that, but I was able to uga duga him to death regardless.
>>575797 Yes, it is because I don't have signature. With both bonus and Koleda's ball you can get his buff at full potential.
What subs does Yuzuha want in her current state
>>575800 elements are one layer of rock paper scissors, and now they're layering classes on top of that.
>>575804 that guy isn't an anomaly stuffer he just is the devs finally saying "fuck you" to miyabi he is immune to freeze and has 40% ice resist
>>575804 Miasma Priest has 40% ice res instead of the usual 20%, they really want to shill Yi Xuan.
Now that we've ditched the HDD where do you even replay story missions? I could use that to try out Fufu some more I guess >>575742 I didn't find her that interesting, better than Trigger but I still think Pulchra is the more fun aftershock stunner to play with.
>>575806 ATK%. aim for 3200 ATK with an S-Rank ball. she currently has some of the strictest requirements in the game for her buffs and i expect they will soften them
>>575807 I didn't know there were more of these. Holy based.
>>575789 vergil with skin cancer
>>575808 That implies one element beats another which isn't the case in ZZZ, bosses have flat stengths and weaknesses but there is no "Water beats fire, fire beats grass, grass beats water" system in this game.
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>>575804 Because Miasma Priest is specifically made to fuck over Mibibi
>>575807 >>575799 >>575807 We need one of these but with Miyaboo instead.
>>575812 Wait until her banner starts and you'll be able to trial her in lost void.
>>575814 Does she care about AP subs? From what I remember at the start the answer is no
>>575827 no, her extra anomaly buildup doesn't even contribute to anomaly damage calcs. you need every ATK% sub you can get, especially if you're not using an S-rank ball on her for the extra base ATK
nyo...
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>>575831 Naruhodo
>>575827 Technically yes, she'll have 200 AM, so you may as well get any AP you can. While her aftershock attacks don't factor into damage calculations like bangboo, her EX, on field basics, chain, and ult all do, and you're gonna be using them, so you may as well make those contribute to damage. atk% is far more important though.
m0w1 Yixuan / Pan / m0w0 Trigger or m0w1 Yixuan / Pan / m0w1 Koleda?
>(1) >spoilered image I clicked it...
>>575814 Does kaboom's atk% buff contribute to this when it's stacked at all or no
>>575840 Probably, don't see why not
>>575840 It doesn't for Astra, I don't see why it would for Yuzuha.
>>575836 you need 16 ATK% rolls to max out her buff currently with kaboom, a bit less if you're using soukaku's engine. there is almost no room for AP in an ideal build to begin with, so any disc without at least 3 ATK% rolls is already not great >>575840 no, base out of combat ATK only.
>>575833 Put the Boo down Put your Electric Lipgloss on the table, too
>>575837 Trigger, you'll be benefitting a lot from the damage multiplier since Shishou is onfield almost constantly
>>575834 Nice cock Ben
>>575848 If you want it, then you'll have to take it.
>>574760 Iam gonna be honest I kinda doubt that considering that Orphies "Partner" Agent will be Seed, who will be either Suppotive Fire or Electric unit like Panyihu but S- Rank.
dawei please put lucy on yuzuha banner i need a fucking kaboom the cannon im a 1.0 player PLEASE FUCKING KABOOM THE CANNON I NEED ONE YOU FUCKER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSOSiwoPTDE Yet another solo Soukaku run
>>575857 >who will be either Suppotive Fire or Electric unit like Panyihu but S- Rank The giant robot/mecha is obviously a support, bwos Especially after we had an entire event featuring Mecha combat
>>575847 Maybe I've gone off the deep end with my disc autism, but 16 rolls is not a lot to me.
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>>575859 > Anonymous I have a couple extra if you need it bro
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>>575859 >i need a fucking kaboom the cannon >im a 1.0 player >I NEED ONE YOU FUCKER Day 1 huh?
>>575804 miasma and the bibi etheral moster were made to nerf the braindead anomaly gameplay noy you are forced to dodge and parry to deal DMG.
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>>575868 God put a warning on that thing
Does Astra count as off-field when she's dancing?
>>575867 16 rolls into 1 (ONE) substat is insane. consider the fact that 2 of her discs will be ATK% main stat and can't even roll ATK% as a sub to begin with. that literally means you need near-perfect rolls into ATK% 4+ on discs 1, 2, 3, and 6. that's not realistic. if you don't have one of the balls i mentioned you likely just have to cope with her buff being slightly below max unless they soften her stat requirements.
>>575859 You can borrow one of mine but wipe it off before you give it back
>>575868 I always smile when I see this image. I fucking LOVE NICOLE.
>>575859 I've rolled Soukaku's engine enough times to have 4 maxed out copies. I don't roll for limited engines.
>>575824 Yeah I know that'll be a thing later, just thought to try her again now since she was brought up. Redoing story stuff to try out new characters isn't anything new for me, but I guess that's gone for now
>>575878 Flat atk substats on the ATK% discs should help a little bit, no?
>>575859 you want one of mine bwo?
>>575878 Just run atk% main stat on 4, I guess. It's not worth sabotaging the attack of your main dps to make your sub dps slightly stronger.
>>575890 yes, but how much that would help is hard to calculate. probably could make up for 1-2 rolls if you get a lot of flat ATK >>575894 ...you're going to run ATK [4] on yuzuha regardless. the only unique disc is AM [6] on anomaly mastery.
>>575876 if you mean weeping cradle, no. the agent's model needs to be unloaded, so weeping cradle also doesn't work for the 0.6sec where rina is finishing her ex even though you already pressed swap
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so shifu is the void hunter of this version who is the astra then?
>>575900 Yuzuha is Astra but replacing the crit damage buff for an anomaly damage buff
>>575878 kabooms energy regen and atk% buff will be way more valuable than like 75 flat attack you're missing out on by barely not capping
>>575903 yes, this is the actual trvthpill, you don't actually NEED to max out the buff. i'm just explaining to people why you shouldn't give a fuck about AP or any other subs. even if you factor her minor field time for her EX and ult, it's not enough to be concerned about for anomaly dilution. jane and/or alice will still be doing over 90% of the anomaly buildup and will be most of the calculation.
>>575900 Shefoo ain't the voidhunter, she's voidhunter-lite The actual void-hunter would be strong enough to be on-par or overtake meebs in-game. They also wouldn't release a voidhunter without spending 4~ patches hyping them up like they did with meebs. People are guessing it's gonna be not-Aizen's sister(?) who we see at the end of the 2.X trailer The real question is who is the Perlman of 2.X
>>575897 With an S rank ball my math shows 9 atk% subs and 9 flat atk subs with 2 atk% main stats.
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>>575859 I wish I could just give you mine kek
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I'll ask here the same thing i asked there. Be completely honest with me, is the temple event content the type of content you wanted in this game? How is this any different from TV slop?
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>>575924 >2 W5 ben engines >not 1 (ONE) copy of kaboom do you not roll on engine banners? lucy has been on a lot of them
>>575931 TV is gone, let it go
>>575931 TV slop sucked. Temple isnt great but it's not like it takes a lot of time either.
Now that the dust has settled, who lost?
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>>575924 >playing since 1.0 >not a single s-rank ball oh shit niggie what is u doin's
>>575932 only these 3 >vivian seth piper >sanby pulchra ben >miyabi soukaku piper
>>575931 temple is fine and not even required to interact with after like 2 weeks, it isn't groundbreaking but I don't really see what it has to do with TV at all, you should compare it to the video store of which I think it's a blatant upgrade
I actually hate how all the recent W-Engines for a while have been making their description some poem about the character instead of actually describing the engine itself
>>575943 oh, i had filtered to a-ranks only like the other anons
>>575924 Nigga you need to go to one of those fucking youtubers with money to look at your account, you fucking need help.
holy ben ID
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>>575950 alright you got me. ebin troll man.
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>>575941 Mibibi wonnered the fight and loses the war
Roll for balls
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>>575947 should have rolled for burnice
>>575941 My cock.
Did .se die again?
>>575951 why do you say that anon? i feel pretty confident in my account
>>575965 i'm on it rn but it's auto updating is kind of bricked speaking of bricked I FUCKING LOVE THIS PHOTO FUCK FUCK FUCK I WANT BLUE ON MY FACE
>Already got discs 1-3 with Atk% +3 Good enough, thank christ Atk% is the only stat you have to grind and she's not another crit scaling agent
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>>575971 Yeah it works again, .se sometimes likes to just die for 10-15 minutes on my end randomly, and I never know if it's site-wide
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>>575938 Hmmmmm nyo... They wouldn't make this if they weren't thinking about bringing some TV back.
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Hey bros, remember those .wembs of ZZZ characters sliding on rails and parkouring everywhere in some cityscape? Would someone tell me the game of that game?
>>575981 The NAME of that game* fuck I'm tired.
>>575981 Bomb Rush Cyberfunk
can someone earnestly and unironically explain to me why this bastard """"""stole the moonlight""""""? Like why not just steal the entire moon at that point
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>>575981 Kinda expensive for a jet set radio-like
>>575966 good job king
>>575931 Temple is good because I get to give some bangboos an honest day's work
>>575985 everytime I select him I do a gru voice
>>575940 Why would I need to save if I know there will be enough pulls to get Yutane when she's dripped?
>>576006 doubly so since Yutane will be an A-rank
>>576009 An agent with 2 form, human and robot, an A rank? Doubt it.
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>>575984 >>575992 Thank you. Yeah, a bit pricy for what it is but I'll get it anyways.
>>576009 Idk it took me more to get C6 Pan than both Astra and Shishou combined
>>575966 Nice, lemme see them stats on your bibi please
>ZZZ year 3 >open world maps >drivable cars >mod your ride you rike?
>>576032 This shitpost wouldn't make sense if Hoyo wasn't hiring for a Honkai game with this exact description
>>576032 I don't think they'd make a game where you can behave like in GTA
>>575993 ty >>576028 i love bibi
>>576039 That's Anita's whole marketing strategy right now
>>576032 i don't want this game to become open world slop. the instanced city areas and hollows are more than good enough and they can focus on making nice areas that actually feel alive than just some giant empty city full of nothing.
Vivian buttjob
>>576032 >4 player co-op >Me and the boys in our modded 4 seater car driving around New Eridu, >Car is modded to have a custom sprayjob of Ju fufu in a sling bikini >Blasting "Come Alive" on the radio >Friend is driving and playing as Piper >The rest of us are playing Zhu Yuan and shooting all the Thiren NPCs from the car. Oh yeah, it's Zenless time. This would be fucking terrible lmao
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>>576032 >O-out of the way f-faggots!
>>576058 that sounds fun though???
>>576058 >sprayjob of Ju fufu >shooting all the Thiren NPCs
>>576070 Never ask a NEPS Officer what race his wife is.
>>576042 Tyty, my Vivian is m2 and your score was pretty close to mine. I know my Jane and my Astra are good, but Vivian does so much damage I hadn't even thought about how half-assed I built her until now, so I wanted to see yours for reference. And yeah mine looks like trash next to that 519 AP
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I still don't know why trigger and astra have yellow levels on selection lol
>>576042 That's a lot of anal proficiency.
>>576066 It'd get boring quick tbqhdesu since it's difficult to make a GTA-like game stand out beyond just being a GTA rip off. Also a Gacha GTA game would be hard to figure out, like what the fuck are you gonna pull? Cars? Weapons? If it's like ZZZ how would you balance a new unique character every 3 weeks THAT ALSO works in a GTA-esque open world. This is why that Anata game was revealed to not be a gacha
>>576097 You're underleveled
>>576091 nice its fine anon, love is all she needs <3 >>576099 and anal on the weekends
>>576097 If any skill or disc is under the threshhold, they'll be yellowed for that.
Are there any good guides for the prophecy solo achievement? I wanna finally try and get it but I don't feel like banging my head at it through trial and error for potentially hours. Last time I tried I got stuck in this loop of trying to farm around the dog for levels but not having enough HP to win fights.
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>>576103 by their own claims their vision is stitching all the maps together eventually, driving could be one of a solution to travelling between areas. and honestly it's not as far fetched as people think. it's basically just scaling the new instanced hollow zones up and put in a driving module (which they already have with caesar's bike event). once you get out of the vehicle you're back on the normal combat module.
>>576103 Being a gacha Breath of the Wild ripoff has worked for genshin for 5 years. I unironically believe a gacha GTA ripoff would pull it off easy. Shit with the updates there are people who still play ridiculous hours of Cyberpunk, imagine giving it biweekly updates and gacha waifus
>>576140 Isn't this just Anata when it finally releases in 2035
>>576125 Oh I wasn't talking purely about the driving, just the "GTA sandbox" type gameplay. Still feel like they'd rather have loading screen fast travel as the way to get between maps though, since ZZZ wasn't originally intended to be one big open-world game >>576140 >Being a gacha Breath of the Wild ripoff has worked for genshin for 5 years ZZZ is the only gacha i've ever stuck with tried GI when it released and dropped it after a few days, got bored If they make a GTA ripoff gacha then they'd have to cut corners with a lot of stuff, also can't imagine it running well on phones I like ZZZ cause they put a lot more care into the smaller stuff and the aesthetic. Each agent has unique animations, attacks, even walk animations, and hell they're basically constantly revamping the gameplay every few patches. I guess i'm not gacha-pilled enough to see the vision of GTA Gacha
I wouldn't want ZZZ to have a drivable open world, but what I would like is an event where you drive the Random Play van in a street race and blow the doors off of supercars. That'd be funny. The final race qould be against legally distinct Vin Diesel.
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>>576165 >also can't imagine it running well on phones gta 5 ran on 7th gen consoles, unless their codemonkeys are shit (they are) theyll be able to pull it off the bigger problem is that itll be super censored, no shooting gangsters or cops, running people over or exploding them with tanks, sanitary gta sounds like shit they might as well try a different type of game altogether
I want to invite Ms. Zhu Yuan to the cinema for a date!
Thoughts?
vivian is the best ZZZ sex wise (not counting the lolis)
>>576236 ENTER
>>576236 agree she's pure sex
>>576236 Nicole is literally right there
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>>576032 What's wrong, don't like the sibling's shitbox?
>>576236 >>576240 The most wholesome fanart for ZZZ is art of Belle and Wise having Threesomes with agents. It show's the strength and purity of a good sibling relationship, as well as promote family values. I want to see art of Vivian licking Wise's cum out of Belle's pussy post-creampie.
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>>576255 >no hairpin
>>576262 >spoiler I'm sure that exists somewhere.
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Consider the following
>>576287 >No bush I only jerk off to Koleda when she has a tasteful, untamed spicy bush.
>>576252 nicky is nice but i favor delicate-ish girls over whore-ish ones
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>>576291 Koleda has a smooth pussy befitting her small body. Cope, miyabitch.
>>576304 Nicole is delicate and pure though?? >>576309 uoooooooh unspoiled koleda
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>>576309 Goddammit my spoiler didn't go through. Fix it jannies, reeeeee
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>>576309 Anon I'm at work
>>576319 The boss is calling
>>576256 this thing is gross. It makes me laugh at how gross it is. I think Nicole has the best car. 2nd best is that white sports car out of bounds on 6th street
Fucking love Bibi
Shifu's fat ass banner needs to end so Jufufu's fat ass banner can start.
>>576348 bibian stop stretching your expensive dress like that why are you ruining it?!?!?
>>576372 11 year old lapdance
Do you think mobile is holding ZZZ back too much?
>>576377 No shit.
>>576372 Only 7 more years until Yixuan's slow ass banner is over and we can roll for the jade beauty of Yunkai Summit
>>576377 Why the fuck would anyone play this game on a phone? It's not turn based 4 niggas in a row autoplay shit like SR.
Fufu has a buttplug in at all times.
I want to sniff fufu's dirty laundry and shoes on suiban temple laundry day
Blonde women
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>>575797 What? You're supposed to use another 2set if you have his sig? Wtf
>>576405 Yeah, his sig lets him max his stun/impact iirc, so you roll either woodpecker or some other 2 pc if you're running mountain king.
>>576410 Good to know. Is Astral 2pc usable?
I think Shifu's parry in her starting combo might be my single favourite mechanic of any agent.
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>improves your piper
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>>576422 Still cute, but put her back
I went on a date with Astra and then vivian locked me in a chastity cage
>>576422 Wow Piper's mom is hot
wait what the FUCK is this bullshit bait and switch, we have a perfect flat character but then they give her a skin where she grows FULCKING TUMORS? this is unacceptable, please hoyo dont ruin more characters like this... I think ill have to still roll cause her base model is untouched but this pisses me the fuck off.
>>576440 You got tricked, n(1)gga. Google push-up bras.
>>576440 And people say more skin is better
>>576440 she's still B-cups at most bro she's pushing them together like a slut
>>576412 don't see why not, basically whatever you're missing >crit damage >crit chance >fire damage >attack percent go with whatever you need or isn't saturated.
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>>576440 She's just squishing B's together. It's hotter that's she's trying
>>576440 You're getting pranked by a prankster.
>>576440 Her b-cup tits are being pushed up by her straps to make them look like C-D cups by ZZZ standards. It's a simple yet unbeatable BRAT technique.
cant wait to pull for my walking vivian buff thanks dawei
>>576445 >>576446 >>576455 I was starting to get happy they were releasing more hot characters with jufufu but they have to pull some BS >>576449 >>576453 >>576456 thats not a B wtf, thats large Cs MIN
>>576467 Cumming on fufus luscious 11 year old lips
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>>576461 Bibi and Yuzu will be the new Anomaly core, won't they? You can quite literally slot in any 2nd Anomaly of your choice based on weaknesses and steamroll
>>576467 That's why I said ZZZ standards, in New Eridu, E-cup is the average size.
>>576471 im gonna throw up
>>576440 anon discovers how fabric and lumps of fat work
>>576461 >The third parasol wielder will be a very flamboyant Chinese man
>>576467 these are b-cups in a push up bra bro, this is female magic 101 they are masters at this
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She's so damn cute
>>576472 faggot?
>yuzuha causes a melty just from a change of clothes Ludokino
>>576479 Bottomless Sexual Desire And Unstoppable Pounding, Even After Dawn, Sperm Is Squeezed Out And Balls Are Empty, The Best Of The Best Thiren Cowgirl FUCK
>>576473 I know how it works >>576476 still making it look like large Cs and thats above my acceptable level >>576479 we need overworld idles so I can see this anytime after I roll her
We have Meebs who has New Eridu's flattest ass. When will we finally get a true flat-chested girl? I'm talking full on anvil chested A-Cups
Jufufu is 11 u fucking pedos
They should add emotes to ZZZ
>>576440 i agree, they completely ruined her she gained +10kg of weight with this atrocious skin
>>576488 Jufufu is the flattest so far
>>576493 Aren't they ashamed? There's no reason to be flat in 2025+, hit the gym flatass.
>>576440 Tits and ass game, sorry bwopipi
>>576492 God, I want to fuck Ju Fufu so fucking badly.
What'd brodie mean by this?
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>>576496 Anon I.. >>576499 Her ass and thighs will be more plump than Mibibi's, mark my words
>>576493 that still looks smaller than what happened to yuzuha, making it look bigger is disgusting all the same >>576497 I like ass, nice hips, thighs and tummy, just not those gross growths
>>576507 >that still looks smaller Because Yuzuha isn't THAT crazy flat to begin with, my example is extreme and you can still see how big of a difference it makes, now imagine if there was something there
>>576507 >just not those gross growths >shows a pic of thigh-fat Anon.... you know muscular thighs don't squish like that, right?
<Anon, you’re telling me I look hotter when I look flatter? ~ Gross~ you know that’s such a creepy and pervy fetish…
>>576504 Why would you give him attention? He's going to post his AI generated toddler shit now
>>576507 It's okay to be gay, just keep in mind we here appreciate a woman's body in its entirety
>>576507 And that's TOO BAD, BWOPIPI
>>576504 He's funposting.
>>576470 everything points to vivian yuzuha being anomaly wheelchair >>576475 manifesting parasol komano
>>576504 pedo panda ahh id
>>576512 ur missing something
>>576512 <Anon, you forgot to attach an image. Now you just look like a FAG~ <God you're so gross, pretending to be a BRAT without a bratty image LOL
>>576508 okay fine I guess I can use that to cope but the result IS STILL THE SAME, its gross and pisses me off they would make a skin like this for a character I like just to assault my eyes >>576511 I dont mind a bit of meat in thighs, but I dont like any overweightness like hags have elsewhere >>576512 its called being normal >>576514 okay, faggot >>> glad to have filter ID
>>576470 They're giving the new Phys weak DA boss Fire resistance to fuck with Burnice, they could just as easily make the one after that Ether res.
>>576525 >they could just as easily make the one after that Ether res Then you swap Vivian out for Burnice until the anti-ether shilling ceases. And when the anti-fire shilling starts again, you swap Burnice out for Vivian again.
how do we stop the yuzuha bratposters.....
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>>576506 Flat chested bunny with a phat ass and I'll instant M2W1 da wei
>>576440 fufu, lucy, and piper aren't flat so why would she be
>>576532 call them erpfags, they had a melty over it a few threads ago
>>576532 By releasing a new BRAT, starting the Rokudo BRATposting The BRATposting will never end.
>>576535 she is in her original form, this is them trying to change it after for some reason
>>576538 She's just wearing baggy clothes bro
>>576536 that made them bolder bro... also it's not erp seethe >>576537 why didn't Nicole ever get bratposting....
>>576524 Have another visual on Yuzuha's size in her default outfit compared to the seemingly titty monster Alice. You'll see both lines at the top for size compariso
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Hello bros
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>>576530 >Then you swap Vivian out Reconsider
>>576532 The bibi sadposters couldn't be stopped, neither can the bratposters...
>>576536 <Erm, actually Anon, it was you who was having the melty ~~
>>576545 30 INCH HEELS
>>576542 >why didn't Nicole ever get bratposting Nicole isn't even a brat, she's a cute broke idiot
>>576545 Checking this again, I went 2 pixels too small on Yuzuha too
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>>576538 In her original skin, she's flat cause she's not wearing a bra under that baggy sweater In the summer skin her itty bitty titties are getting pushed up by her tight swimsuit straps >>576542 >why didn't Nicole ever get bratposting.... She did, bwo, but most of them turned into Findom posting instead also she's not a teenager so it's not really brat posting it's more just smug virginslut posting.
I have be saving for EVER, I played day 1 for the idols and my biggest fear is them changing their design after to give them bigger breasts, and this skin changing yuzuha size, push up or not, sets a bad precedent and saying "its just a push up bra" is just making excuses for them to do more and more BS like this
>>576551 Nicole is the only agent who ever trust decreased me she definitely has some brat in her
>>576530 You could also use Yanagi in the third slot to shotgun multiple disorders every so often, point is Anomaly agents get gimped by buildup res so the only trve universal teammate is Yuzuha since she just copies your carry's element. What devious gimmick could the devs introduce that would mess with that.
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>>576525 >>576530 you guys talk like vivian being ether matters that much 70% of her damage is abloom which is elementless she can easily bruteforce ether resistant enemies with a partner that can hit at least neutrally
>>576551 Nicole is more likely to suck your dick for dennies then to act immature and bratty, that is Nekomatas department.
post corn
>yuzucord gonna be zhao cord next
>>576555 Dude just don't buy the fucking skin then. She's still flat in her original skin, it's just the new outfit makes her tits look bigger, you're freaking out over nothing
>>576564 >Nicole >sucking dick for dennies >Nekomata >immature and bratty How long has it been since you guys played 1.0 content?
>>576555 I hope they make idols hags solely to spite you personally for this melty.
>>576553 She's the diamond
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>>576566 Kek, I love how they made an actual reference to it in-game too
>>576555 is engrish your third language?
>>576555 Now THIS is a melty. Look bwo, I'll be disappointed if they change their designs too, but it's not worth getting this upset over. It's just a game man.
>>576555 You are deeply annoying
>>576566 I will be recruiting members to the alicecord as soon as we get more of her personality so we can form a posting style
>>576555 im thinking rokudo is already cooked, i expect hers to be similar to ellen or alice
>Yuzuha is flat! She's wearing baggy clothes and whilst not big by any means, she's not flat >Yuzuha has big tits now in her outfits Push up bra Stop crying already
>>576586 alicecord corincord unite
>>576545 yeah see this is As or small Bs, I know I say flat but w/e I include mediums when I say flat sorry, still way smaller than it should appear in the skin imo. >>576554 its not itty bitty if it can be pushed up that much, and even without a bra it would be seen more in her base skin if its that size her summer one shows >>576568 im just saying, if they feel they can get away with this they might do more in the future, its worrying >>576584 is it a melty if im just expressing concerns? this site is nice cause if something annoys you, you can filter IDs, its what im doing with the trolls here >>576588 very sad
>>576584 Funny thing is that it's not even a 'design change'. Base skin, we don't see her breasts and as far as we know she's braless so her tits are as flat as they possibly can be under those baggy clothes with nothing to push them up. Summer skin we actually do see her tits but she's wearing a skin tight swimsuit that hugs her body and pushes her body fat upwards to push up her tits this is how it works in real life It's literally just a realistic outfit change, women are creatures that are built on lies.
<~Anon, why are you shouting? What got you so riled up? BOOBS?! Heh, would be a shame if I accidentally spilled those growth hormones next time Spook Shack and Angels of Delusion throw a tea party, don't you think? And every other time until their debut!
Announcing filters is a faggot move especially when you're still replying to the posters that you're mad at lol
>>576595 >I know I say flat but w/e I include mediums So mediums = flat in your eyes? >its not itty bitty if it can be pushed up that much It's not even that much and you've seen the results of pushing up an ACTUAL flat chest >>576493 Yuzuha has double that to begin with at base
stop applying ur 3dpd standards to my lovely 2d wives
>>576600 I never replied to anons I was mad at
>>576595 I mean it honestly just comes across as you not getting how boobs work tbdesu, and going all doomy over that. Calm down bwo.
Wow this thread got set on fire post cutes to save the thread and drown it out
i like women of all sizes landwhales are not women
>>576595 >its not itty bitty if it can be pushed up that much dude even if you have literally no tits, you can wear a push-up bra to make it look like you have tits. Trannies and drag fags do this shit all the time. The only way it wouldn't work is if you're anorexic with near 0% body fat. Blame /v/ for teaching me this fact. >im just saying, if they feel they can get away with this they might do more in the future, its worrying There's literally nothing to worry about, they're not going to abandon small-chested women, we're literally getting the smallest tits in the game next week, Ju Fufu. They HIGHLY understand the appeal of hebes/lolis.
Janecord is awfully quiet right now
>>576607 the only ones I dont get are the big ones, im very familiar with the small ones
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>>576625 well not enough since the rate of hags vs hebes are low and we still have 0 lolis
>enter room >see this What to do?
>>576611 Based BBN. also TRVKE
>>576612 >>576623 mating press
Rerun when
bnuy will have 0 chest
>>576643 After Yuzu and Alice drained your polys, rerunning during Orphie's banner too.
>>576609 I would roll for NPCs
>>576645 Nagi and torger would friend not enemies
>>576655 They become friends in one of Trigger's trust events, bonding over their love for red bean bun
>>576655 True, we must reach hag concord >>576652 Basado
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If you think about it Grace is the truest hag of them all >wants to have sex with machines >also calls them children >ergo she is a form of Shotacon
>>576663 S11 in a sundress is cute. I guess it's cause her legs are exposed.
>>576676 It's because Harin is naturally cute
>>576537 >fight bratcreep with bratcreep increasing the power of a weapon only escalates the war
>>576675 She's constantly trying to molest our SON too.... She's genuinely a sexual predator. hot.
>>576687 Then let the war escalate.
>>576525 This >>576563 Abloom takes over the attribute it procs it for, she does a shit ton of Phys dmg when paired with Jane for example
I'm seriously about to rip another 10 pull on Shifu so my tiger has a cozy home
>>576699 >not putting Tiger with her fellow kots sovlless...
>>576709 My account has zero kots
>>576699 YunKINO summit team will be cozy
>>576697 I hope she's a more chill BRAT, the type that talks in a laid back tone and teases you like it's nothing. Hoyo, give me a spectrum of BRATs to tease and berate me, please god
>>576675 >>576692 Grace is a cutie regardless of how much hagness she exudes.
this feels like its supposed to be a good build for eve but sometimes I struggle with getting 20k on DA. Her snaps barely reach 500k damage. What am I doing wrong?
>>576719 Grace's face is just way too cute
>>576638 >0 lolis We have lots of them. It's not their fault you are new to lolicon and don't accept JCs that have been classified as loli since time immemorial.
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>>576720 your attack is a little low, what 4pc and 2pc are you running?
>>576727 woody & bibi
I'm going to confess that early on, while I was moving discs around for Yi Xuan, I accidently moved Sanby's by accident. I also mistakenly chose Sanby a couple times while quick selecting agents.
>>576699 She's useful in other teams too unless you're talking about a lore team
>>576720 >Recommended Priority: Agent Skills Anon, there better not be a single single digit number on that screen
>>576724 a (1) had to come by to call his faggot ass out
>>576720 Your attack is low and your crit is overcapped. Here's mine for comparison. 4pc pecker and 2pc puffer, I get 45-60k DA scores depending on boss and the buffs, but I'm also using the full premium team with everyone at m0w1 so take that into consideration.
>>576729 Sometimes when people post their stat sheets, I can't tell the difference until I open the image
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Here, take this
i still remember the period in the animu landscape where Tatsumaki and frieren would be considered loli but theyre both mainstream ips so they are no longer considered as such
>>576733 I just tire of the new push to move JCs out of lolicon range. It's annoying to see and it just keeps happening. Thankfully JP/Otaku aren't also pushing it.
Corin clear against the new Shiyu boss
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>>576747 Is Jufufu goods for corn?
/zzz/ - Zeekly Zolicon Zemantics Giscourse
>>576747 Cornzone? Thoughts on Yuzuha and Alice so far?
My nigga Agent Gulliver
>>576742 Anyone thinking Tatsumaki is not a loli has terminal brainrot.
>>576744 JP is also prone to stagnation who still use fax machines and their gachas got left in the dust by Chinese overLORDS. JP will still be using swords and straw mat armor if it weren't for the great Comodore Perry.
>>576757 Yuzuha is good Alice is another case of the devs not having a clear vision for a character by the first beta cycle (they should)
>>576759 >Racist niggas
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>>576742 >>576744 To me a loli is just a short, flat woman. They can be sexy so long as they still have a feminine body shape to some degree, I don't like lolis that look like ACTUAL toddlers/little kids or look like they haven't developed any sexual characteristics at all.
>>576764 Isn't she still good, she just has schizophrenic build requirements to the point people can't agree what's best?
>>576762 Lots of companies in western countries use fax machines because they are more secure and dumbasses have a lower chance of "getting hacked" through the use of them. Banks are a big user of them still.
>>576773 I haven't seen calcs for her yet (nobody wants to when her kit will change again in a few days) but yeah building her is interesting in that she's like Miyabi if Miyabi wanted AP over CD
>>576774 Medical uses it too, at least where I work. We get orders faxed and then shred it afterwards to keep people's health info confidential
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>>576764 >Alice is another case of the devs not having a clear vision for a character by the first beta cycle (they should) If it works it works, Hugo was also all over the place during beta and they ended up finding a way to tune him right by the livestream. The only agent who released with a really bad kit was Ellen since she was the first one and even she's fixed now
>>576781 I'd argue that Jane has a lot of built in jank that could be touched up.
>>576761 >but she has a fat ass and she doesnt act like one frieren is much more excusable but if you showed her to any shounen tard id expect her to be treated like a child >>576762 least wizardry variants daphne is doing fine in gameplay alongside HBR but the madoka and what happened to tribe nine was entirely jp autism also plenty of medical offices use them still >>576770 most lolicons i know dislike toddlercon shit too kek
>>576786 I think the only thing she really needs changed is having more "heavy hits" because it's very possible to fuck yourself over and delay her anomaly procs by a lot.
Is the person who e-mailed me this an 8ch poster? It's really good
>>576761 They just don't want to admit she's a loli cause they find her sexy. They're terrified of being labelled a disgusting freak on twitter. This is why the whole "This character is NOT a loli, she's a HEBE" shit is becoming so prevalent, they used to associate Lolis with actual child-like bodies cause of the hate that old-weebs got for being "creepy" Now that Anime is mainstream and more normies are realising "shit that small girl is hot...", they're trying to justify it in a way that doesn't make them seem like a creep. That's also why you got a lot of genuine toddlercons calling themselves lolicons
>>576741 but that's public property. It belongs to NEPS I cannot just take it.
>>576786 Jane functions as intended, she spams Assaults at the enemy while dodging through everything and there's nothing in her kit that works against that. Her problem is her performance falls off a cliff if she can't spam Assault and that's what happens with anomaly buildup when off-element. If the game had as many Phys weak bosses are there are Ether weak bosses and vice versa Jane would be considered to be holding up well and Zhu would be considered an early brick.
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Vivian=sex
>>576787 >she doesnt act like one Since when is it a thing? I'm not an expert on the matter but loli aren't required to act like magical girls or children. I'm an old fag so my standard are from the 90s and early 2000.
>>576790 >save Jane ultimate for after an anomaly proc to maximize the value built >last hit doesn't trigger assault because of anomaly CD >waste an entire basic attack string worth of anomaly buildup because it doesn't go off untilt he last hit EVERY TIME
>>576790 I actually played her for the first time today in months for lost void shit and I have to agree with the other anon, she doesn't feel that great by modern character standards. Her basic string feels really lame in general. >>576791 I haven't seen it posted here at least.
>Now that Anime is mainstream and more normies are realising "shit that small girl is hot...", they're trying to justify it in a way that doesn't make them seem like a creep. very true. zoomers are faggots and anime becoming mainstream destroyed anime >>576793
>>576793 its funny tatsumaki is treated like that while a 140cm cosplayer on xitter was called a pedo for cosplaying her the machinations of xitter is truly a spectacle to behold like every other sort of autism created by them such as the height of consent >>576798 normalfag cope like im sure theres normalfags who treat piper in the same sense or koleda
>>576764 Good shit lately cornbro, I found it funny the guy who ragebaited you into making the bricked discs video was coincidentally, russian, like the old guy who would melty constantly over your existence kek
>>576791 Damn that's a really nice piece. The artstyle (particularly Corin's face) looks familiar, probably a /zzz/igger but idk if they're /here/ or /there/ Haven't seen that artstyle posted here anyway
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>>576793 >They just don't want to admit she's a loli cause they find her sexy. >This is why the whole "This character is NOT a loli, she's a HEBE" That is one half of the story. The other half is the "toddlercons" trying to gatekeep the word loli for some reason. It's kinda weird.
>>576800 Indeed. It sucks that the only way to proc it is either 1) full basic attack 2) last hit of EX special 3) any hit of Salchow Jump. It feels bad when you have to spend a SJ charge just to finish the bar quicker and then cancel it early because of the bosses movement.
>>576734 >>576727 awesome, thanks. I moved swapped a ATK% for the fire DMG% with 3+ crit dmg i had previously, i don't know how much she benefits from the fire dmg disks but i hope the extra damage makes up for it I realized i don't know jack shit about character building in this game after playing for months, how did you guys learn about overcapping or which disks does the better damage and stuff?
>>576791 that's sick
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She's lit, you can't deny
>>576812 I need a QRD
>>576817 i still dont get this usage of hebe ive been hanging around groups of lolicons since like the release of AL global and ive never seen them use it as they obsess on ame-chan, several loli vtubers, and them actively playing BA too only in this vietnamese basketweaving forum is where i first saw the usage
>>576826 there used to be a russian schizo on halfchan that would melt down everytime cornbro posted a new video fast forward couple days ago he posted a video clearing new DA boss with a-ranks and shit wengines and that guy was in the comments telling him he only cleared it because he's a sweatlord with god discs like a complete retard I'd like to live in the world where they're both the same person, that'd be funny
>>576812 I'm too susceptible to wanting to prove people wrong about things, but I have noticed a pattern with the most inflammatory comments usually being from Russia for some reason... But the other Corin channel who often clears faster than I do is Russian too (and good to talk to) https://www.youtube.com/@synitsu/videos
>>576821 Well now your crit rate is WAY overcapped, but at least your attack is better. Evelyn gets 25% crit rate when she tethers an enemy, for as long as they're tethered, and 10s when it breaks. 75.4% cr is the ideal maximum that will get you to 100%. Stats in general are a balancing game, and you need to consider the buffs you get in combat (that don't show on the character page). 3k attack is the minimum for all attackers.
Tbf I'm an actual lolicon but a lot of your so called lolis like qing yi just look like the petite women that are 80% of Asian females. Mostly in the south. North Chinese women are built like westerners.
>>576817 >The other half is the "toddlercons" trying to gatekeep the word loli for some reason Yeah that's what I meant at the end of the post, basically nu-lolicons are in denial, calling characters Hebes instead, cause they don't want to be painted as a creep. While toddlercons are trying to call themselves lolicons cause it's more acceptable. Both sides should get roped. Cause if it continues like this then the word Loli will end up meaning "toddler" and old-lolicons will have to call themselves hebecons instead cause the toddlercons are pissing in the pool and acting like it's normal.
>>576834 >and that guy was in the comments telling him he only cleared it because he's a sweatlord with god discs like a complete retard Tbf that sounds like the retards that follow saintontas for whatever ungodly reason. I genuinely don't know why people watch him.
>>576840 this is a filipino but yeah south asians just kind of look like that lol
whats the true meaning of loli then? to me it has always meant anime child
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>>576842 Nailed it.
>>576846 It was most likely, I saw him jumping to that guy's defence in other reply chains and then claiming that he doesn't watch him
>>576840 and australia considered all those petite woman to be nonexistent and are seen as CP for some god forsaken reason funny that one of my lolicon buddies is a leaf and also has it rough as he cant get any BA merch
>>576853 including "hebes" of course
I'm glad I don't have to care about the intricacies of the english language because I like girls that can legally drink.
So, how do I even build Trigger W1? I've been farming the new set for her but I've got fine pieces from Anby's set too
>>576853 It is. Just saying that Asian women in general don't grow a lot from puberty. Probably why it's more acceptable to them.
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>>576846 No one really watches him, his channel does way more poorly than you'd expect from his baiting thumbnails Tbh he's just doing a bit. He's retarded yes but anyone who takes him seriously is wasting their energy. Anyone who gets convinced to not play ZZZ from his slop videos isn't someone worth having in the community at all. All the "gacha drama" frogs on xitter and youtube either play all of the games or none of the games anyway lol
Bros, I think Ceasar might be stupid.
>>576872 Aren't girls cutest at their most dumb?
>>576786 Jane's only real jank is her Core requirement imo, being part of Pubsec does nothing but hold her Hyper team potential back, which is how she started off as. Double Anomaly feels like a must now
>>576862 Use Astral if you don't have an Astral wearer, use the new set if you do. Use Woodpecker if you can't hit the CR passive cap, use something else if you can, either 2p Shockstar if you feel like you can get an extra stun or anything damage related if you can't
>>576862 Astral Voice if no one has it King of the Summit if someone else on the team is wearing Astral Voice Swing Jazz if you don't have a good KotS Anby set if you want to make posters here seethe
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>>576853 Basically any female that invokes the idea of budding youth. That's supposed to be the original point. Originally, years ago, there was even other cons (Heicon and Alicon) for the ranges below JCs but they eventually just got absorbed into Lolicon. Now years later people are pushing for Loli to be only for the lower ranges and exclude the original range.
>>576840 chinky looks like a kid with the big head, small body and small baby face, twitter niggers who say she looks like a small woman are coping like faggots lol
>>576871 I've said that he's basically playing a cartoon character for his stream in the past and that the only way to respond to him is to pretend he doesn't exist but the sheer amount of namedrops the guy gets everywhere makes it impossible for people to just shut up and let his grift die
>>576862 anbyset trigger is a meme her dmg contribution is like 10% at best, no point in increasing that when u could just buff the carry
>>576887 >the sheer amount of namedrops the guy gets everywhere makes it impossible for people to just shut up and let his grift die That's the point of ragebait, and why people keep doing it. It works too well. People are REALLY bad at ignoring stupidity.
>>576871 He isn't trying to convince people not to play ZZZ. He unironically streams it pretty often. He just knows ragebaiting/drama farming = views. Why else is he putting in effort to actually keep on playing the game and inviting smaller ZZZ CCs to "debate". I think he tried calling out jstern before too.
>>576853 The images you post are toddlercon, to me a loli is an anime girl that could pass as a middle aged but still has physical sexual characteristics only found with women post/during puberty (wider hips, slender waist/torso even if they're flat as a board). Whereas toddlercon is just a character that has the actual body proportions of a toddler/little kid, no emphasised sexual characteristics (vagina's not included.), built like a mini-fridge, it's clear that this character hasn't gone through ANY physical sexual changes what so ever.
>>576894 >middle aged ok these filters are weird, you can probably guess what I meant through the context.
>>576883 I like this classical definition the best.
>>576839 i think im starting to get it now, so in general, crit rate always caps at 100% and dmg at 200%? in eve's case her ex/ult give extra 30% dmg, so under 170% would be the best?
>>576897 The filters are goofy, a couple threads ago something got filtered as soccer mom and I have zero idea what that could have been.
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>>576773 I think the bigger issue is that her skills got completely remapped between V1 and V2, she probably plays completely differently.
>>576609 I haven't really been paying attention to anything in this thread beyond looking at images. What did I miss?
>>576861 Women in my age demographic
>>576894 Tot (puni) is basically only toddlers and preschoolers. Anything elementary (JS) and up is loli. Puni has (or had, not sure if it's still running) its own magazine like Comic LO. So anything in LO is loli because it's "Comic Loli Only"
>>576907 yuzu mindbroke another anon, it's a daily occurrence at this point
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>>576907 Nothing, it's the same tired loli/pedo/toddler/who gives a shit debate.
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Mibibi cut the cake with a bloodstained knife after killing her mother and Ethereal. The cake was stained with the blood of Ethereal and her mother.
>>576912 Wada Wau gets published there and I consider him toddlercon.
>>576920 That's the extra seasoning.
>>576920 i would like to imagine spiritually mibibi's mother spirit held her hand as she cut the cake
>>576900 Crit rate caps at 100%, crit damage has no cap, but it does hit diminishing returns vs attack if they're too imbalanced. dmg% depends on your team buffs, people opt for a pen% disc 5 if they're running Lighter + Astra, otherwise you want dmg%.
>>576920 >soukaku got to physically make miyamom's own flesh and blood a part of her god I wish that was me
>>576921 I'm actually surprised they run him there but he's more of an anomaly than the norm for it.
>>576907 Fake Chest Prank GONE WRONG
>>576931 He might not be the norm but he isn't the sole exception either since some of Ponsuke's stuff that gets published there are what I consider toddlercon too.
>>576894 >>576912 good info. I will still think toddlers are lolis because to me lolis are children (aged 5-12/13), i think "toddlercon" is a hypermodern term so to speak but yes, if u say toddlers are lolis as a way to not feel bad with urself ur a faggot and not much else to say
>>576935 >sole exception I didn't say he was.
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>>576609 there is seriously no way this thread got mass-baited by 1 guy who is too fucking stupid to know how breasts work. there's something interesting about this site's culture. since the average low-effort shitposter doesn't bother with this place, it means that actual turbo retards who really don't deserve the time of day get given the benefit of the doubt because most people here assume everyone is posting in good faith. not that i think that guy wasn't... he's just special.
>>576861 I know it's all fictional but this thread makes want to take a shower
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>want ju fufu >been told she's not that great I will have over 18k chromosomes when Fufu comes out, Yixuan is at m1, Panda is at m3. Right now I have Lucy filling into to give Panda more attack to give Yixuan more Sheer. I guess what I'm getting at, is ju fufu going to be worth the probably emptying of my 18k poly to get?
>>576941 You didn't, but I just wanted to be clearer.
>>576944 Take a shower, stinky.
>>576942 I just wanted to take the chance to bitch about something that annoys me is all.
>>576942 You put what I've been thinking about into words very eloquently. This site clears halfchan but man it just exposes how retards can be organic. It's old 4chan vibes where you could laugh at a retard and not just merely roll your eyes at the 99% chance it was some jeet getting paid or gigaschizo wanting (You)'s as their social quota for the day
>>576942 bait or not i think this lolilk was good
>>576946 If you want her, get her. She's cute as fuck. I'm getting her and I don't even have Yixuan. Meta rolling is dumb, roll with your heart.
>>576942 There are multiple regulars here posting ingame children daily, really not hard to believe that guy was genuine, just... special
>>576958 lolilk*
>>576944 You should take a shower regularly regardless of what this thread does stinky-anon.
>>576958 weird fucking filters again. lol1 t4lk
>>576946 She fine enough so if you want her I'd go for it.
>>576946 >you like her Worth it >you don't like her Not worth it
>>576957 >>576960 i miss the real classically trained shitposters. reading that entire meltdown was a bit nostalgic. the funniest part is that if it was really so offensive to him that her tits are pushed up in her swimsuit he could just... not buy it? it's an optional premium costume such a strange hangup.
>>576946 She's at least on par with trigger so she's still good.
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>>576959 >>576969 >>576968 You know I can't argue these points, whatever makes my other characters stronger. (I don't really plan on pulling Alice, maaaybe Yuzuha, depending on who we're getting after her).
>>576972 As we're posting on an offshoot of a mongolian knitting board, we all have a little retard inside of us. One day, it will be my turn to have a thread derailing melty. It will probably be about people who believe in account seeds.
>>576974 I wouldn't say she's on par with Trigger, but she's still good. Trigger boosts all damage, all the time with no management required. While Jufufu requires a bit of babysitting and only buffs crit damage teams.
this is how yuzuha shouldve been but instead we get another boob monster well it is what it is
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Does anyone have that site where you could input discs for upcoming agents and see their stats with them? Also >pic related Did the breakfast shitposts from 1.0 reach the Japanese?
>>576987 kek, no fucking way.
>>576972 To be fair he did argue the thing that made him mad was the bait and switch between being a flat agent but "Oh wait she actually has tits", which would be fair if they had actually done that. His mistake was assuming the girl with the same body design/height as Belle and Vivian would be cutting board flat and not just small chested.
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>>576987 >that site where you could input discs for upcoming agents and see their stats with them? Does that exist for ZZZ? I know one exists for HSR but I didn't think there was one for ZZZ
>>576980 Account seeds are real though. >>564667
>>576950 >>576963 I'm too autistic to tell if you missed my meaning or you're just ribbing me, so sure I'll go wash my stinky NEET pits
>>576993 NO THEY AREN'T IT'S CALLED GETTING LUCKY AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>576984 There isn't a single agent like that so it's silly to expect it
>>576980 account seeds are real though? (not ZZZ, but my point stands)
>>576981 Jufufu you can literally just fuck off and do an ex when it comes out, plus she's our first decibels battery.
>>576998 But my account will have Seed in it? How do you explain that, huh?
>>577005 Seed will be on your account, it's not account seed bwo... they don't call it account fufu or account bibi >>577000 the human brain will search for patterns where there are none, this is the gacha quandary
>>577000 Nah, he's right it's just luck. I refuse to believe every account for every game I've ever played somehow got the insanely lucky seed.
>>577000 KWAB, I still don't have the fag but my 50/50 losses are seeded for Anko
>>577013 All simulated RNG is seeded bwo
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>>576946 Fufu is objectively great for Shifu but in terms of overall account power, it really depends on what other limited Stunners you have That said, she's not an actual brick by any means since she's guaranteed to partner well with your Yixuan
>>576998 >NO THEY AREN'T IT'S CALLED GETTING LUCKY I'm going to show you my two Mihoyo accounts, and you'll have to try really hard to convince me that seeds aren't real.
just spam gacha simulator until you get a big losestreak u dummy stack up the luck
>>576416 Yixuan is the most fun character released
>>577013 >>577014 >>577016 those aren't my pulls but that guy also loses every 50/50 to S11 in ZZZ. he also has 0 (ZERO) copies of jianxin (another standard in wuwa) despite pulling way more than me and having a couple maxed limiteds. i've also lost my last 3 50/50s in wuwa to encore, my schizophrenia does not allow me to believe these are simply coincidences. they probably are, but it's funnier to shitpost about account seeds
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>>577021 random ≠ uniformly distributed anon
>>577017 >simulated RNG is seeded Technically sure, but practically false. Anons will say "I have a grace seeded account" when it was just RNG. No gacha has lasted long enough to invoke the law of large numbers >>577021 Those look like normal numbers and even if those were outliers like top 1% top 1% it still wouldn't prove the existence of seeds
>>577033 >Those look like normal numbers How does it look like normal numbers? Shouldn't I be in the 50% range on either of them for it to be normaly? Why would I be top 5% in one game but bottom 1% in another? THE SEEDS EXIST. I SHOULDVE ROLLED FOR A SEEDED ACCOUNT LIKE I DID IN HSR WITH THE EARLY BAILU.
>>577028 I'd be more open to believing in them if it wasn't for the fact that I have above average luck in every game I play. From gachas to MMOs to grindan games and huntan games. I don't even spend cash in most games with MTX and still maintain above average luck. I can't tell you the amount of "explode"s I've gotten tossed my way in various generals.
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>>576992 I could've sworn someone used it to post their Jufufu build, but that was a few days ago. >>577001 >our first decibels battery I know people don't like off-fielders, and for good reason, but I really hope we get an aftershock attacker/rupture to make full use of Jufufu's passive. Like crit Burnice cranked to 11. Hopefully Striker from DNF Duel fills that role so we can use her and Shifu in the same team and spam ults all fight long.
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>>577018 Hmm. I have Trigger, Koleda, Lycaon, for stunners. I imagine I could just cope use Trigger, but I figure Ju fufu would compliment the Yixuan/panda team quite well along with their bangboo.
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Asian wives...
The best couple in ZZZ
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>>577043 >know people don't like off-fielders, and for good reason I fucking love off fielders. Give me more characters like astra where I don't have to worry about swap order and get buffs.
>>577042 if your luck is better than my extremely average median statistics you should explode.
Account seeds arent real but pre-pull rituals are If you don’t blow ropes to your agent as you do the fiest ten pull you’re bricking your luck
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Is Qingyi one of the most out of meta'd characters? Mine has very good stats but I can't see where to use her apart from a meme Harumasa team, and even there I guess my Trigger would do the job better. I even took her teapot.
>>577043 There's optimizer if that's what you're looking for https://frzyc.github.io/zenless-optimizer/
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>>577066 the current state of the game is not really friendly to supports who want field time. every single DPS since around 1.3 has been a massive field hog with the exceptions of harumasa and hugo, and hugo has multiple mitigating factors that make qingyi less than ideal as a partner for him. i've been saying she should get changed to only require one EBA to max out her buff against bosses, that alone would probably make her competitive again.
>>577066 they should remake her into an attacker or a rupture her kit just does not work for a support
>>576981 >Jufufu requires a bit of babysitting and only buffs crit damage teams You just want to parry and EX special with her, exactly like with Trigger. And she doesn't only buff crit damage, she also buffs ults and chains. Trigger's constant multiplier also barely does anything if you're not fielding your DPS so Fufu is better for Hugo and any other future burst DPS that can run double stun
>>577066 Yoji was able to 65k Miasma Priest with her/Shifu/Panda, but his Chingyi is M1. I haven't used mine in forever since Trigger just feels better.
>>576987 >>576988 Stop appropriating nikke culture
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>>577058 Average is good though.
>>577075 Between Jane and Qingyi, I would not be surprised if either of them were the next to get buffs. Jane because she's just too close to an A rank in performance, and Qingyi because like Ellen she feels like she was designed for a different game.
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Do we still love Yao here even after (You)creep and more chink hags were added?
>>577093 Buffing either of those characters before caesar would be confusing

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>>577071 This'll do, thanks bwo. >>577089
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>>577094 I do love me Astra. Free ATK, free heals.
>>577070 Yeah I said it, that old lady was talking about how she's gonna give him decades of her lifespan so they can stay together for more tidefaires
>>577090 >100% 75/25 winrate explode not like my luck is bad though, even though i wasted my most lucky streak when i was trying to get a copy of pulchra's engine for glowing hair
>>576993 >have had weapon pulls where I've singled pulled. one bundle. >Lost a Yanagi 50/50 to soldier 11 had to give up and got Lighter instead >SAnbi and Trigger came early as well and their weapons not too long after and they were my last pulls from then on. Honestly I kinda dont believe it you just gotta get lucky.
>>577093 Please give the standards buffs dawei. I will buy your most expensive pack if you do.
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I love Shifu
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>>577089 technically the nikkers appropriated it from another game first. it just only became popular after they did it
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>>577100 >release as a good buffer that everyone knew would be powercrept by a real Support, but who had good stunning ability and a unique shield >absolutely gut her stunning ability by messing with Daze values in the ult change update >basically zero relevant content where her shield is useful for a while, not even more Ambush nodes >new design philosophy has changed to giving characters off fielding ability, Aftershocks, and encouraging quickswapping, making what seemed like a minor downside to Radiant Aegis a brick Caesar genuinely deserves a buff Hell, even her buff not working off field was weird from the start considering she released with Burnice
>>577100 Why not, Caesar serves her role as filler shield support for shitters just fine
>>577116 i think i can see it
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>>577116 You're supposed to spoiler lewd stuff anon!!
>>577122 well her rerun is in a week and they didnt even bother giving her a real ult i dont think they care
>>577122 Nah, Caesar doesn't get to buff on the level of actual supports while also giving the team a shield. I won't allow it.
>>577111 The best way to buff standards would be to give all of them the Lycaon treatment with Hugo. Release a limited agent that is BiS for them in every way not just as a cope so you can partner them up. S-rank Anton for Koleda, S-rank Corin that scales with pen ratio for Rina, new member of the cunny hares that somehow makes Neko not cancer to play, belobog agent that eats shocks for massive damage for Grace, SEED for s11
>>577116 >it's spoilered already There's a janny in this thread RIGHT NOW
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>>577128 i genuinely don't understand this argument. last time i complained about caesar being a useless brick in the current meta i got the same answer back. either she's designed as cope because she has a shield and she's fundamentally always a damage loss over a real support and has no purpose outside of carrying people through tower, or otherwise people seem to think she'll invalidate every other support if she's actually optimal for even 1 (ONE) team. i feel like the devs can find a middle ground where she's not just a walking crutch while also not making (You)'re favorite support useless.
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>>577128 Even if her shield functioned off field, she'd still be considerably worse than Astra in terms of pure buffing power. Just let her actually be able to stun shit quickly again and fix her DA followup/Shield Bash whiffing on some new jump-happy enemies to give her a niche as a mixed stunner/supporter, right now there's no reason to use her over Astra or even Nicole
I'm supposed to deliver these or I just bricked my account by giving the red one to those npcs?
>>577108 >early kot ball into two more early balls The Kot loves to spread her blessings!
>>577155 What else does the kot like to spread
>>577005 >But my account will have Seed in it? How do you explain that, huh? Sorry about the late reply. I just came.
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>>577129 >Release a limited agent that is BiS for them S11 works with every limited support/stunner/defender besides Qingyi. Grace has Bibian. Rina has Yanagi. Neko has Astra/Trigger. Honestly the only odd one out is Koleda, and if they just removed the >while stunned part of her chain attack buff then she'd be in a good spot with Evelyn.
>>577139 >i feel like the devs can find a middle ground They can't. Just look at Zhongli in Genshin. When he existed as just a shielder he sucked, then they gave him some team buffs and he became the undisputed best support in the game for years. He probably still is but I don't keep up with that game. Shielding is just too strong compared to healing, and it should be treated that way especially with how easy Caesar triggers her shielding. Even if they made her 10% weaker than Astra, she would be used on every single team instead of Astra because being able to ignore everything the enemy does more than makes up for that 10% damage lost.
>>577158 Her tails
>>577129 >s rank anton is exactly like evelyn expect electric so he can't pair with lighter kek, and I don't think you could do that for nekomata cause to me she feels like shit cause there's literal rng in her kit
>>577164 Yeah they all work “fine” with those options but I’m talking like BIS BIS. Hugos best teams all have Lycaon. No one’s “best” team has Koleda/Grace/Rina/S11/Kot (except mono electric nagi I guess)
>>577164 >Neko has Astra Not exactly fair when Astra is BIS with basically everyone.
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>>577170 Delete this NOW
>>577143 oh I have all 3
>>577176 Neko is going to be a monster with Pulchra/Fufu, just wait.
>>577167 i dunno, ZZZ is nothing like genshin and shielding is way less important to this game since most characters now have fucktons of invuln and really powerful dodge counters. if they JUST want to make her usable again, the actual simplest change they could do to make her even slightly relevant again would be to add QA prompts on her shield bash and ultimate. at least then, if you use her in the support slot on a team, you can actually use astral voice. she'd also be a pretty good user of it in that case since she'd get pretty frequent QAs as long as the boss is aggressive enough. even with this change, she'd still be worse than astra and yuzuha for their respective niches, but she'd probably be a respectable sidegrade if you want to use her with a stun-focused team for some extra daze with her buffs. in general her kit makes no sense in context of the current game. stunners are expected to use their ults for fast stuns now but her ult never had good daze multipliers. supports are expected to spam QAs now in order to drive astral voice and feed decibels to the carry, but she has no QAs in her kit anywhere. she doesn't work in EITHER of the niches she was intended to fill, so she's just a walking crutch for people who can't dodge. i don't think it's good for a limited character to exist in such a state, especially when the devs have outright said they want to make sure older units can keep up with the changes to the gameplay. she's the most obvious example after ellen of an agent who got fucked over by the system changes and design philosophy moving away from what the game was in 1.0
>>577183 yeah um.... nyo
>>577183 The absolute state of furries
>>577190 Kot Force will reign supreme!
>>577184 Add QA's and make her atk buff/shield teamwide instead of just whoever got the active char. That will unbrick her but still not make her broken
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>>577167 Genshin's generic dodge is fucking ass, avoiding damage isn't nearly as big a problem in ZZZ since most new characters get considerable iframes, parries built into their kit, and often have incentive to DA out of attacks anyway (whether from Performance Points or to refresh buffs or as part of their kit like Vivian). Caesar is a blatant downgrade to every other alternative when the only content in this game that hits hard enough to make her shield appealing is higher Tower (pointless) and higher LV (one and done thing, plus Caesar doing so little buffwise is fucked by the new 3:30 time limit). Caesar wouldn't be Zhongli, Astra is just too powerful already and offers you a lot of invincibility uptime with her QAs.
>>577195 instead of just the active char*
>>577183 it's nice that this team isn't a total shitpost and can probably even clear content if you try hard enough, but it's also not going to be breaking any records
Which yet to be released character are you most looking forward to? Mine is Orphie-ass.
>>577184 Yeah but they can't make her BIS for a team because there's nothing unique about her kit, it would just make her outright better than the actual supports if she's supporting with a shield on top. To make her actually balanced, they would need to redesign her entire kit. Just put a debuff that actually interacts with her parry. Like if you successfully parry, the enemy takes X% more damage for a short duration and give it a quick assist.
>>577208 >Yeah but they can't make her BIS for a team because there's nothing unique about her kit They could simply create a character that gets a scaling buff with shields.
>>577207 Rokudo. >>577208 She does increase damage dealt against a target but it could be much better if it was more like Triggers.
>>577208 >Just put a debuff that actually interacts with her parry. Like if you successfully parry, the enemy takes X% more damage for a short duration anon... i don't know how to tell you this, she literally does that already, and she's still not good.
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>>577207 the bun
You guys are talking about life maybe 10% of the community at most though. For most caesar is a comfort character that allows to more comfortably clear most content in the game.
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Give Caesar a unique stacking buff that applies everytime she parries something and have her ult convert those stacks into extra damage
>>577174 I’d consider any team that can 40k (M0W1) in a good spot, and any team that can kill in a great spot. I’ve seen Yanagi/Rina/Nicole kill Typhon https://youtu.be/Wuz_1U4OZuY?si=h-umsc-Tu7mTye5x And I've seen all standards in 40k teams so i think they’re in a decent spot. And IIRC Jufufu performs better than Lycaon for Hugo/Lighter teams, so I think the knot is in a similar spot. A limited in the same niche will outperform them, but they can still clear with flying colors. >>577176 I mean Astra lets Neko activate her passive consistently so she synergizes better than most.
>>577226 >the extra damage ends up being a nothingburger so getting stacks is a DPS loss I can see it already
>>577219 >>577217 Oh, she's fine then. I designate all Caesarfags as whiners. Case closed.
>>577194 kot team is trash. Absolute hot garbage. Useless. Anybody using k0tforce is a freak and belongs in a dumpster. Me included.
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Idk bwos, saying that Caesar would become BiS if she was a good support on top of having her shield sounds like prime "0 Performance Points Miasma Priest" talking
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>>577228 9999% multiplier
>>577229 if you think she's fine i challenge you to replace nicole with caesar in any team you use nicole currently and consistently get a similar or better score/clear time
>>577232 Joke's on you, I got 28k with 0 performance points
>>577227 >fufu better than lycaon for hugo @grok is this true
as someone that likes to actually play caesar all I want is higher daze values
>>577233 Post yours first
>>577234 >CB But she's clearly SnS. She needs sword oils and maybe the uppercut.
>>577235 Nicole is a support, she should be better at supporting. Ceasar is a defender, and she does an excellent job defending.
How good is shifu M1? Debating it heavily for the QoL
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>>577232 PSA: Her ult’s bonus daze against shields also works against enemies with Miasma. She pops miasma faster than any other agent because of this.
>>577246 1 Button Farm. >start disc stage >hit ult >end stage >3 seconds
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>>577240 Fio's Gaismagorm toppling punch would also be kino and actually show Caesar's supposed super strength (that rarely ever comes into play) >uppercut I'd also be fine with her ult being an install that turns her shield bash into a Shoryuken temporarily
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>>577243 yeah she does a really good job defending the enemies from your DPS' maximum potential when the devs ultimately buff her because they realize her kit makes no sense anymore, and she doesn't immediately destroy the meta, i'll remember these posts.
I think I prefer Alice's Ojou attitude to Yuzuha's brat
>>577248 >3 seconds For real? Lowest I've been able to get is 8 Gonna go try that
>>577250 If you want your DPS to be at maximum potential, you don't also get a shield stopping them from interacting with enemies. I can't imagine a meta more boring than not even bothering to dodge boss attacks and just sitting there doing your damage rotation
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>>577248 ah well at least I got panda and pulchra M6 in the process Ju fufu here I come
>>577250 Put me in the screencaps.
>>577249 >would also be kino Yea it would. Could even have it impair a target for a short time. And the install idea is gold. >>577254 Yup. Someone posted a clip a few threads ago of them doing one of the farm missions like that.
>start disc stage >hit ult >end stage >3 seconds and then watch the wipeout timer animation then click retry watch the loading screen the intro scene wipeout retry load intro fucking retarded honestly when are we getting actual farm QoL also shoutout to the login screen where u have to click 3 times to load in
>dodging = not attacking dodging is a dps loss
>>577260 ZZZ's daily speed is a blessing compared to some other gacha I have to speedrun every day You can burn all 300 daily stamina at HIA in 3 minutes
>>577239 i'll just go through my friends list first then come back
>>577234 Damn, it'd be really cool if we had someone that worked like chargeb- >suddenly remembers that Yanagi switches between 2 attack modes and the switch has block frames
>>577260 Hey, if I didn't have to click a few times I'd miss out on the soulful commercials.
>>577256 >I can't imagine a meta more boring than not even bothering to dodge boss attacks and just sitting there doing your damage rotation my brother in christ, this is a mechanic in the game. it's called stun.
>>577261 NOT SO FAST
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>>577261 Barely a factor when everyone gets generous iframes and parries now
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>>577246 This >>577248 does someone have the 3s clear? Nearly swayed me to roll for M1 but I'm still wondering what M1 clears look like for other Dailies like Chips, etc, that have 2 waves I'd love to see if anyone has it
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>>577267 Okay, let me know when they add the agent that stuns the enemy for the entire fight while giving the hypercarry 25% damage and 1000 ATK.
>>577259 >13 seconds Hrm Is her ball also needed? The ball I got on her isn't really leveled
>>577274 I have no idea but I'd assume it helps. The poster didn't post any stats or anything. I'm personally with keeping mine M0W1.
>>577273 Solution: the shield’s offensive buff scales with how big it is, so sitting there and hitting is suboptimal
>>577276 *personally fine
>>577264 If you're on NA drop it and I'll add you bwo
why do i always get anby evelyn or chinky
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>>577273 you do realize caesar's shield isn't infinite? and that most DA bosses actually deal enough damage to break the shield in 2-3 good hits? and that you have to field caesar to refresh the shield if it breaks, which is actually a worse DPS loss than if you had just fucking dodged the attacks to begin with? (since you lose the ATK buff AND have to play caesar) you have to be intentionally baiting at this point so i'll just save this thread and remember when she inevitably gets buffed. last (You)
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They call me 007 0 meta teams 0 meta relevance 7 second long ult animation
>>577277 That'd be a good solution. >>577284 I'm not baiting. Shields are retarded and broken in every game they exist in, you have to give something up if you want to be fucking invincible.
>>577256 >I can't imagine a meta more boring than not even bothering to dodge boss attacks and just sitting there doing your damage rotation that was like 75% of meta teams in g-word game thanks to a mix of ult-spam iframes and zhongli existing. at least when i played
>>577277 unless the minimum buff is 1000 attack they'd never do that because people can see it as a nerf
>>577284 DA also rewards you for defensive assists or dodging depending on the boss, off the top of my head the only one you'd benefit from Caesar tanking is....Marionette or Typhon?
>>577290 >at least when i played I checked one of those sites where they aggregate clear data, and he's still one of the highest ranked supports, so I'm assuming it's still like that lmao
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So Im doing ether 15 phantom and for some reason, while I had the game paused, I was given 300 monochromes...?
>>577296 someone bought interknot pass for you probably
>>577296 Someone gifted you a pass
>le g-word game what are you 12 years old? lmao
>>577296 I think Santa Qingyi is in the thread >>577264
>>577296 giwtwm
>>577292 i genuinely think ellen was borderline unplayable prior to her buffs without caesar's shield or astra acting as a steroid (so you could compensate for the amount of dodging you had to do with pure, raw numbers), but now that ellen isn't a brick anymore it literally has zero use case. it is literally always better to dodge/parry than to try to abuse the shield to face tank. this idiot has no idea how to play the game if he thinks caesar has any relevance
>>577296 a thank you gift from suiban temple
>>574708 Is her name really just Sweety?
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>>577264 thanks bro
>>577296 Spill the beans anon give me the uid of the anon you milked with yuzuha erp to obtain that
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>>577264 basado
>>577308 her name is "red bean" in CN and they chose to localize it that way, probably because they figured the point of calling her that in CN would go over the average gweilo's head
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her name is rita roseweisse
>>577301 I gave my UID a long time ago to the UID Qingyi collector and someone added me which I assume was him. I'm online right now to see that anon is online and he isn't. It's safe to say Online UID Qingyi collector and Santa Qingyi are too different people. It's funny how Qingyi posters like collecting UIDs.
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>>577312 I have a sneaking suspicion who it is, thanks bwo ;)
>>577226 Yes, Caesar should have been a parry DPS.
>>577322 The data anon we had long ago that collected /zzz/ shiyu clear times was also a Qingyi poster.
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Why doesn't Qinyi get in a larger body?
>qingyicord is here
>$30 pack last night >monthly card tonight So what's Santa got in store for tomorrow?
>>577333 BO is a Qingyi poster too and he loves collecting thread IDs so he can moderate.
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>>577322 >>577333 >all the data collectors' favorite character is a cop this thread is glowing
What are thooose
>>577339 the child body allures pedos, so she gets more work done
Is it still her birthday?
>>577346 Can you fault me for falling for the honey pot when the honey is oh so sweet?
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>>577348 Hers and Pulchras
>unironically dreamt about rolling for yuzuha last night What has this, this WITCH done to me...
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USA UID: 1003707432
>thread past 900 posts I did not care for Come Alive. It insists upon itself.
>>577357 blacklisted
im gonna do it
>>577341 Think fast chucklenuts.
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fat slut
1000098257 USA uid too im still giga behind tho
>>577371 I'd slut her fat, if you know what I mean
>>577371 congrats on unbricking your account for the forseeable future!
>>577378 its m1 for long term unbrickening of my biggest brick (dps qingyi)
>>577381 if i didn't want alice and yuzuha next patch i might have been tempted to go for M1 myself. i don't even like astra that much, the power is too alluring...
>>577384 I just wish it were a little less clunky to do constant swaps
Sex with Teamilk Corn.
>>577349 not really. its her fault for being so hot, she probably likes feeling like an objectified 10 year old. Nasty hag
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>>577371 Calling her names won't save you from your fate
>>577357 >>577376 Honestly at a certain point what's the point of separate servers? Too bad i can't add anyone here because I'm on the Asia server.
>>577387 Cocorn love!
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>login >300 mono huh, didn't realize I had Santa Qingyi added thanks bwo
>>577361 What does that even mean?
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umm shifu...I'm trying to pee in your butt can you make that bird fly away
>>577327 all the people upset about fufu being an off-fielder are saved, autists have discovered the technology to make her useful on field.
>>577361 IT INSISTS UPON ITSELF BECAUSE IT'S KINO! HYPE MOMENTS AND AURA!!
>got the monthly gift too Thanks bwo
Sheeza haters in this very thread
ZZZ should have a bounty system for misspellings and inaccuracies where they give you poly for reporting stuff.
I'm still afraid of activating my C1 Astra. I didn't even want her, I just wanted to do a couple multis for Pan dupes
I keep falling for the Qingyi honeypot. Fine you can have my UID too. UID:1000045298 Server: America
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>>577424 I point out how shit she is so people send in feedback so she can get buffed doe
ok m1 astra is +10k score over m1 trigger for dps qingyi why the fuck did i pull trigger...
I'm gonna jump on that bandwagon too, a monthly could make a difference for my Yuzuha pulls Europe 1502696935 Also accepting friends
you're not getting my UID cheldbots
>>577438 i pulled trigger just because of her fat ass
There are people in this thread that dont have the monthly?
>>577442 Maybe they are poor
I've already collected a monthly from Santa qingyi during christmas as a dolphin spender.. I'd feel bad to take another
>>577442 I don't even need it, I have nothing to pull for months
>>577442 I didn't until 1.7
>want free shit >don't want to doxx myself nyooosexwithteamilkcornoooooooooo..........
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>>577442 I already spend on this game and didn't intend to post ID, but the free mono from being on his friend list is a nice surprise
>>577453 Oh ,there's more conversations with her now?
>>577456 this is from the movie event, she's one of the NPCs in it
>>577453 I already doxed myself to the first Qingyi UID collector without expecting free shit.
>>577456 it's just the second part of her date in the event, after you walk her back to her job.
Is there any point to not spend fading signal? I have 13k and never go lower than 10k but it feels dumb to have so many if I'm limited on the pulls I can buy
>>577453 All the gigaschizos don't come around here often anymore so there's nothing to lose from posting your uid and collecting /zzz/ frens
woah thanks santa chinky
add me eu qingyigods 1502306704
eh i post my clears and my account enough to where someone autistic enough could probably figure it out. i'll take free shit. NA UID 1000064997
>>577469 piper with the ice pick
>>577463 No, I usually grab some skill chips every month
>>577466 I bet you they do and they just lurk.
What does having friends even do?
>>577476 I keep waiting for them to lift the cap on pulls you can buy with them but it never happens
>>577486 You can send each other stickers.
>>577466 Halfchan still talks about us everyday.
>>577486 on the internet nothing, wasted time 99% of the times
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>>577486 You can see the builds of the characters they showcase, you can see their memory board / display shelf, and you can see their arcade scores.
>>577488 ...and?
>>577486 I randomly pick friends to send dumb stickers to all the time
>>577491 I just got married last week to the woman I met on wow.
finally hit 60 bros!
There's an anon in this thread with a really retardedly high snake duel score and it pisses me off
>>577493 >You can see the builds of the characters they showcase How? I thought you could only do that with that interknot site
>>577499 how do you think interknot acquires builds...
>>577499 You're seeing the same agents that show on interknot, when you tap their profile you'll see their lineup
>>577499 how high?
>>577505 meant for >>577498
>>576426 i wonder what do the agents think when they see that
>>577506 It's like 30 million or something stupid I'm top 1% and i'm not even close to that
>>577499 I just signed on to walk you step by step on how and damn, Qingyi Santa is fast. Thanks Qingyi Santa. First go to your friendlist and click their profile. Go to check Info. Then you can click on any of their characters and it will bring you to the character select page. From there you can see their skill levels and equipment like usual.
>>577486 So you can message minty
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>interknot mentioned >man I haven't looked at that in awhile > Damn, people are going crazy with her for the rank to be that low with triple 0
>>577510 On my rankings page there's only 3 people that high and I'm one of them.
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>>577510 That's me ;) sorry bwo. If it makes you feel better I someone in this thread beats me too


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