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/zzz/ - Zenless Zone Zero General Anonymous 06/20/2025 (Fri) 22:34:26 Id: 9a0988 No. 581893
Previous: >>577520 >News Agent Record | Alice Thymefield https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39231485 Agent Record | Ukinami Yuzuha https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39218785 Season 2 Special TVCM https://youtu.be/bLEL0nU0LxI Version 2.0 "Where Clouds Embrace the Dawn" Special Program https://youtu.be/ACjLWP_zviU >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo https://youtu.be/B8qkTG12DJU (EN) https://youtu.be/7VcpoJRa4kM (JP) https://youtu.be/dJe0zuy7_6s (EN) https://youtu.be/1iHQwA2kLQc (JP) https://youtu.be/ffubdFPFlS8 (EN) https://youtu.be/eLDyyX4998I (JP) https://youtu.be/l7S3fTAZUgk (EN) https://youtu.be/REjNV-Q4YQo (JP) >Upcoming Events for 2.0 https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/156753 Festival Channel 06/06 - 07/16 Failume Gift 06/06 - 07/15 Soul of Steel: Golden Bond 06/06 - 07/07 Golden Proxy Awards Annual Ceremony 06/06 - 06/23 Gravitational Attraction 06/08 - 07/14 Holographic Onslaught Arena 06/13 - 06/30 Special Cleanup - Triple Bounty 06/18 - 06/23 Tiger's Billowing Roar 06/25 - 07/14 En-Normous Surprise 06/25 - 07/15 Operation Yum 06/28 - 07/14 Combat Training - Triple Bounty 07/04 - 07/09 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online) https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption ZENLESSGIFT ZZZ2NDSEASON ZZZ20NEWSEASON >Resources and useful links https://rentry.org/zzzlinks https://rentry.org/ZZZ-drawpile https://rentry.org/ZZZFriends >/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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no ben " bara ben" bigger on defense
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I'm gonna goon
>>581902 >ugly tattoos
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There is nothing wrong with incest.
I'm gonna JOOOMP
I wan to segs the Caesar
<- best and truest canon wife
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>>581874 So her layout should put her in the third slot then with him in the second and whoever is the 3rd team member 1st? I've tried that before and had the same problem. >>581872 A combination of suboptimal play and her discs being mediocre probably.
rabbit sexo
OF COURSE THE FUCKING HAG
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My useless t2 wife
Guys i think we're gonna lose this 50/50
JANE BROS?!?!?!
>want Yuzuha >want Alice >want to get Yanagi's sig on her rerun >want Orphie >want Zhao >want idols Convince me not to pull Jufufu. She's really cute and pulling her will free up Lighter for my Ellen team. I'm already gonna have to drop a bunch of money to get what I want as is.
people will blame caesar but what the FUCK was jane doing
its over
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It's already over
>>581934 but that means the next match IS A GUARANTEE WOOOOO
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Funny Bibis
JANE JOBBED
>>581940 >next match anon...
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Jane just gave up Never trust a RAT
>>581936 Pick a patch to skip or swipe
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>>581936 >Alice, Yuzuha and sig You know what you must do
>>581948 FUCK that's hot
do we care about the fuchibol or nah
If you could buff 3 S Rank agents which ones would it be and how?
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my king tanked that
>>581967 Jane, Qingyi, and Caesar >how no idea lmao
>>581936 Do what I do anon: pull on everyone you like and pray. If you don't get them cry and at least you're guaranteed the next one. I have only skipped Lighter and Hugo banners. I pulled on every other one. I lost 50/50 on Jane and was simply unable to get her. I never managed to get enough pulls on Burnice to reach soft pity but I still tried. I have every other limited.
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>ublock script to block twitch ads stopped working do we have to stream divegrass on this godforsaken website? youtube streaming is competent now and isn't run by turbo jews who kneel to hottub whores
>>581977 havent seen an ad the whole stream...
>go against non-cripples >lose
>>581977 it's working on my pc
>>581982 >the only way to win is when the opponents are literally disabled
DESU WA BITCHES
DESU WA
>>582000 ignore (you)
Let's go!
>Corn worshipping Lucy's feet AGAIN We taught her well.
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AIN'T NOBODY COULD RIDE LIKE JOHNNY THE KNIIIFEEEEEEE
LUCY GAME LUCY GOAL LUCY GENERAL
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>>581981 >>581990 i haven't gotten an ad (yet) but i genuinely do not trust twitch anymore. i have been cucked out of watching so many tournament streams because they decide to run a 2 minute ad break in the middle of grand finals. the website is legitimately unusable without an ad blocker.
what ZZZigga should I wank it to and why is it Caesar
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I'm starting to think Burnice doesn't know what football is.
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>>582025 She needs Nitro-Fuel.
Sometimes, I wanna fuck Chinatsu and spend all night cuddling with her. Other times, I wanna do so with Rokudo. Then, there are some days of the week where all I desire to do, is to plap Yutanes little robotic ass. Thats the beauty of men sexual nature; polygamy. I love all my girls, and I love each one for different reasons.
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>>582024 fvarking kino...
>>581967 Oh yeah probably should also post mine >Caesar Buff the amount of ATK the shield gives(also make it give Sheer Force for Ruptures) + make it also boost energy regen or anomaly rate also make the ult actually good >Harumasa Attacks with aftershock when an on field agent uses an EX/Anomaly Triggers that puts stacks on the enemy that detonate when he dash attackes and his dash attack speed is raised so he can do more of them >Grace Just make her do something interesting like at all
YUH
she gets it done
THE SHINY
HOLY!
>>582022 >what ZZZigga should I wank it to Caesar >and why is it Caesar because Caesar
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Thoughts?
>>582063 shouldve prevented the first goal
Yay!
if we close I celebrate with a load blown for kot
>>582066 The first goal needed to happen to light a fire under our ass.
Cute girl with totalize when?
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hi hello /zzz/ would anyone be kind enough to spoonfeed me a script to block twitch ads saw it mentioned in here
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>>581967 >Caesar add a QA prompt on her EX followup and ultimate. change her shield buff to be 800 ATK but buff the vulnerability buff she grants from parrying to be 50% instead of 25%, so more of her buff is in a less saturated stat. make her ultimate track how many parries have been performed and deal increased daze depending on how many parries have been performed, up to a certain cap (devs would have to balance this). >qingyi make her full 80% stun dmg multiplier apply with 1 EBA. that's it. >jane if she's off-field but has passion meter, make her trigger aftershocks that can apply physical anomaly and trigger assault if another teammate triggers an anomaly. this is just to make her more flexible and to make a meme mono-phys team with alice stronger.
Rolling for ID Also, what is the chance of me rolling Ju Fufu? 1d100 = 20
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THANK GOD
>>582085 Get Sjaled.
>>582035 I really like the alternative voice lines on Ellen's skin. Also using sharknami after the changes, though mine isn't M2.
this new boss is really annoying in Lost Void
>>582082 Are you watching it through Cytube? Cause i'm watching it through cytube on a different browser without an adblock and i haven't gotten any ads
good job manager
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I was fucking sweating. Good job bwos!
>>582103 sauce of this?
can we get some goal videos
i thought it was over bros
>>582100 yeah im watching thru cytube, still interested on looking out for that script though
The kot demands payment. Your next two 50/50s shall do!
I'll never doubt manager-sama again. >>582113 Need a video of Corn shining Lucy's shoes.
Good shit, Manager, we beat the cripples AND the jews
Say thank you to the King for being a solid pillar for the team.
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>>582113 I'll share them tonight if nobody else beats me to it >>582122
>>582111 dont know. i got it off a previous thread myself
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When can i get Torigga gf?
>>582126 H-hayai... Thanks bwo.
>>582119 I chose Kot M1 as my anniversary S-rank. Please have mercy.
>>582128 nevermind. literally putting Miyabi DJ on youtube gave me the sauce but the song is different https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyktN7x_DSQ
>>582133 morgue
>Do you like them young, Mr. Proxy?
Do we have our own home stadium yet? I think Torigga would make a perfect ref.
>>582133 Trigger and SAnby should be old enough to rerun by 2.2, last time I saw the banner+rerun sheet Which fucks me up since I might want their balls
>>582146 Do you not know? TVs were our home stadium but it got taken behind the shed
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>>582125 AVE TRUE TO SHIZA
>>582125 Thank you King.
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>>582125 She earned a reward
Brown is Best
>Woke up too late and missed divegrass fuck
>>582141 >hollow turning into a melon Okay that's funny.
>>582082 seconding this, twitch is being fucking retarded again
>>582172 Gimme that Bibi ID and I'll tell you how it went
>>581893 I may change to EN voices just because Fufu sounds more like a child
no chinky anby surely
>>582189 hmm... nyo
>>582209 You'll be back next thread
>>582193 EN dub is honestly the best one in hoyo. Only one I'm not sure about is yuzuha but then again her line in the teaser is pretty clunky.
>>582193 based. EN Fufu is best Fufu.
>>582082 >>582177 I don't use twitch much and haven't in a few weeks since I mostly watch FG tourney streams. I use the vaft userscript with Violent Monkey addon in Firefox and it's worked fine for me. I've had the most luck with userscripts in https://github.com/pixeltris/TwitchAdSolutions working over the ublock script plus your mileage may vary if you aren't using Firefox.
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I havent been here in a sec because im learning gamedev whats up /zzz/
>>582193 I love her voice, it's extremely rare that english voice pulls off a loli character so well
>>582193 >>582218 ZZZ is a rare treat were I enjoy both the JP and EN and switch between the two at random. I'd still say JP is better overall, but I actually wouldn't shit on anyone who prefers the EN. I also agree Fufu's EN voice is better.
>>582193 i hate jp yixuan she sounds 45 years old
>>582248 i mean...
>>582248 PEER DETECTED
>>582229 That doesn't look like Burnice at all but that Pulchra is making me lose it. Fuck i love eye shadow.
>>582248 Dogshit opinion.
>>582248 >Hating shishou terminal bad taste
Thanks for the Vivian ID, have a nice day
chink voices are consistently most fitting shame about the language tho
>>582303 bwo...
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>>581967 >Grace >Grace >Grace <pick any 2-3 of these Make her dodge attack longer, apply more Anomaly, and have more than 2 fucking i-frames. Change her Team Ability so the Electric Anomaly DMG bonus also applies to Disorder, and let it activate simply by teaming up with another Anomaly Agent. Give her a parry mechanic similar to Yixuan's, where if she holds her EX and then releases it as she's getting attacked, it supercharges her grenades. Give her a unique mechanic where if she overcaps the Anomaly meter, it boosts the Anomaly Rate of other Elements by an amount dependent on how much she overcapped it by. Lean into the techfreak angle. When she uses her Ult, it supercharges the fuck out of your Bangboo and has a different effect depending on its Element. Using her Ult enables a momentary grenade-only BA string, dealing colossal amounts of Anomaly that instantly fully proc the Electric damage ticks.
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Voices Shitter in JP Burnice Nagi Yixuan Caeser Voices Shitter in EN Vivian Soukaku Lucy Neko All other's are roughly equivalent to their counterparts. Lucy's JP voice gets me bricked I wanna desuwa her throat
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Wife
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Yixuan sounds fucking SEX in JP. Elegant, composed, mature... It's a perfect fit.
>>582082 Just Ublock and VPN to Poland or something.
>>582336 I really like her "Ah" response.
>>582336 To me she sounds like she's intentionally making her voice deeper, like she's got a lump in her throat she's trying to talk around, bugs me
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>>582336 Shishou...
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>>582240 Yeah there's some stand outs in EN and that's fairly rare so I prefer using it for the novelty of it. I don't blame JP fags but it really is a case of >EN is actually pretty good when some bitch isn't in your ear telling you it's shit but that's a tall order for JP fags, they really love to hate other dubs and letting everyone know how patrician their taste in gacha VO is
>>582349 I certainly wanna put my lump in her throat, if you catch my drift.
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>>582359 as a JPfag, i actually do prefer to listen to my games in the language i speak. the issue is that the EN VA is just severely inconsistent in these games. you have the VAs who obviously give half a shit about their performance, and it makes the ones who are phoning it in that much more grating and obnoxious. i'd rather take JP where the VA is generally consistently decent at least, even if most of the seiyuus aren't necessarily giving the performance they'd give for a AAA title or a blockbuster anime.
Beta update tonight bwos
>>582316 but what if her special attack just had dodge frames like evelyn and yixuan's
>dubfags
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Shoutout to my literal wife's JP's VA for her performance on this scene, that shit hurted
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Play CN for the TRVE intended experience!
>>582316 Based Grace enjoyer. I kinda wish her basic attacks were electric or became electric after her skill use. It just always felt off to me. >>582374 Honestly I feel the same with the KR voices. There's still some inconsistencies but I like them more because I can understand them. The english voice work isn't the worst thing ever but it varies too much for me to enjoy.
>>582359 They're right for the most part, there are exceptions but the vast majority of EN dubs overacted and sound super cringe I'd rather not wade through a sea of shit for a couple good voices
>>582320 EN Ben is in a league of his own because his JP version doesn't have this one detail: https://youtu.be/N2oLqXG6GQc?si=wAnQjDUo2vsW4SMy&t=116 I also think EN Billy clears JP
>>582082 If you're on a Chromium browser (including Brave), the temporary fix is to spoof ur browser's user agent to Firefox, typically through a User Agent Switcher extension. In the extension settings, go into "Permanent Spoof List" (or something similar) and then enter the domain for "Twitch.tv" and change the user agent to Mozilla Firefox before refreshing/reenabling any scripts you had.
new code ZZZ20RAWFLER
>>582393 >I also think EN Billy clears JP I enjoy both, but EN billy is sillier and fails completely in my opinion to capture the chuunibyou energy that the JP one has.
>>582397 Thanks.
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>>582343 It fills me with comfort.
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>>582392 >>582374 Yeah like I said it's rare so I really just enjoy the novelty of it and I don't disagree with JP fags most of the time. Honestly I probably wouldn't have kept it if EN Billy didn't go so hard from the outset when I was just starting the game. >>582393 See this guy knows, EN Billy is great
>>582404 I mean Billy isn't exactly a serious character, so I can't really agree there but I also don't really know what 'chuunibyou energy' is lol
>>582380 This would be cool too. I like to play my Grace aggressively on-field, so anything that makes that style stronger would be welcome. >>582391 We Grace enjoyers need to stick together.
AH YES ANOTHER SHIYU THAT HAS ENEMIES WITH A WEAKNESS I CAN PLAY AGAINST WITH CHARACTERS I LIKE UNTIL SUDDENLY THE ACTUALLY HARD ONES DROP BOTH THE FIRE AND PHYSICAL WEAKNESS FOR NO REASON ON TOP OF INCREASING THEIR HP AGAIN SO I HAVE TO USE MIYABI AGAIN
omg hi /zzz/!
y u no pic da phon?
>>582416 I went back and listened to some of his old lines from the game's beta (i.e. before the recast), and holy shit he was like a completely different character. Probably the biggest glowup in the game besides maybe nuKoleda
>>582421 I'm pretty excited for the Bibian Yuzuha team. Hopefully I free up my Trigga for Haru or Shifu.
>>582374 It's not just that. Most American VAs simply can't act. I just gave EN Fufu a listen and even she suffers from it. They just keep stressing their mode of speaking so unnaturally. They think they just have to change their voice to fit a character and call it a day. Meanwhile JP (or any actually professionally trained VAs) can literally make the dumbest sounding dialgoue sound genuine and also drastically change their voice range. Modern American voice "acting" is a bastardization that puts low labor costs above quality and it's sad to see so many people can't even tell it apart.
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>>582316 Grace should have something like Lycaon or S11 where timing her BA string allows her to deal electric damage more consistently
Defend THIS
Anytime VA stuff comes up like this I just wonder if there's anything here that plays in Korean.
was thinking about this image during work today something about Shifu just walking around with a soda is really cute and funny to me I guess because it plays into her subverting wuxia cliches by enjoying modern amenities thing
>>582420 No it's cool that he's silly, he's just more silly where the JP one has this wanna-be-hero vibe, like he's trying to sound like a cool guy but he's actually just a dork who likes superheros.
>>582464 IT'S BOBA
>>582445 It should be pretty strong, but I'm gonna miss the crazy Chain Attack spam from the Grace/Bibi/Trigga team. One of the most fun teams. Blue and purple fucking EVERYWHERE...
That's the scary new Shiyu? Didn't really feel it, all the enemies are just big punching bags. The last one was harder because you actually have to manage your parry points on Tepes
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>>582427 hi orph
>>582316 I got grace M2S1 out of sheer she owes me sex (not connected to eous)
leaks?
>>582455 Yeah I can concede easily that American EN is usually the culprit for shitter VO work. A lot of times when I enjoy something in EN it's EU voice work. I'm not trying to die on the 'EN is good actually' hill I just like hearing my language when it's not unbearable.
>>582455 They're playing an unrealistic cartoon character, not some serious or amazingly written characters. Stop trying to suck the fun out of things with your impossible standards.
>>582461 I think one of the Soukaku posters play in KR.
>>582103 i played all 4 at once
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>>582455 Do you speak japanese?
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>>582427 salam aleikym cutie
>>582487 actual cartoons have better voice acting though? what is this cope, don't make excuses for people being lazy about their work.
>>582494 damn dude I got Evelyn twice in a row I don't even have her in game
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>>582498 Don't let banging boos anon get his hands on this one.
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>>582479 You must Grace-code your account further before the sex scene unlocks.
>>582481 Beta update tonight Drip is always between last week of 2nd banner and the first week of next patch.
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>>582374 Yeah that's honestly the biggest issue. I also play Genshin and Wuwa, and between the three games, the EN VAs are only consistent in how inconsistent they are. Some characters are great, but others just do not land right, and unfortunately none of these games let you pick voices per character. Request that in your surveys btw, maybe we can get that to happen one of these days. Wuwa has been a standout here. I actually installed the EN voicepack because all the 2.X chars except Roccia are excellent (EN being eternally bad at doing loli characters), and I love the accent variety. Cartethyia especially, her voice switch when she transforms is amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUIg1zQdkxg (at 2:12 onwards, but listening to smol Carte's voice first shows the contrast more strongly) But I have to switch back to JP for some teams because their voices are intolerable. One of the bigger problems is how a lot of media homogenizes the accents of the VAs, like EN players will riot if someone has an accent besides American and speaks like anyone other than Dave the barista from the coffee shop down the street. It was intolerable in old anime dubs (at least they had the excuse of barely having any VAs to work with) and it's still intolerable now. Genshin is particularly bad about this, to the point that some VAs are clearly fighting their native accents at the behest of the voice director and it affects their ability to act. E.g., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7prSNM5tIbE
alice buffs in 2 hours
>>582509 Yeah, they probably get paid better and get benefits. If you want better actors, pay up. I bet they couldn't skimp the Japanese va pay even if they tried.
Alice is stupid and does 0 damage
>>582487 Bro, go listen to Mark Hamil speak and then listen to him play the Joker in the Batman cartoon. You can voice a cartoon character well.
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Fornicate with feline females
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while scrolling for art, I think I just found a gay yume who ships herself with Shifu and draws/commissions art of her OC with her https://x.com/YixuanS2/media
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>>582525 are you a SAG-AFTRA shill? how did you find this website?
>>582527 nicole is fat and poor
>>582521 If Genshin didn't switch to a studio that hired British voice actors and forced them to do bad accents it wouldn't be a problem. It was pretty good until then.
>>582532 I've seen these for anime but I never thought I'd see one for a gacha game. Do they imagine their OC as an agent or just an NPC? Would you roll for them?
>>582521 Carlotta's voice is a standout as well, Jennifer English is a fantastic VA and it was cool hearing her in a gacha game. Fucking love her voice, and she fit the character super well.
>>582527 Alice is cute and needs to sit on my face
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>>582521 wuwa is honestly a great example of this, since i love EN carty's performance and i would use EN just for it (the JP performance is mediocre and her seiyuu does not handle fleurdelys' lines well), but i cannot stand EN camellya who is my second most used character... so i'm basically stuck coping with one medicore performance no matter what language i pick and no, i won't use CN, fuck off
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I fucking love oni
>>582532 I only kneel to Mors Stacy
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>>582539 Low-hanging fruit
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>>582554 Firecrotch is good, too
>unironic endub niggers you guys deserve more goreposting
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Decided to learn shifu's stun combo and cut a whole 20 seconds from my clear time. Honestly she might be the most fun character to play in this game.
>>582554 I love fucking oni
>>582566 Honestly? Would.
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>>582565 Koleda deserves more artwork
>>582566 yes because it makes sense to tribalistically insist on only using the JP dub in a CN game. if the EN dub was good i would use it. do you also play western developed games in JP? this kind of attitude never made any sense to me
>>582566 oh no bro a spoilered image that may or may not be gore, whatever will I do......
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>>582566 You gave me an idea, 50/50 but both outcomes are cringe but one is disgusting cringe the other just boring cringe Open if you dare
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>I t-think both dubs are good...
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>>582589 >both Aren't there 4 dubs?
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>>582589 shut the FUCK up and go back in your rape corner
If EN dub is good I'll use it even in a japanese game
>>582593 Does anyone here unironically play in KN or whatever the last one is
>>582589 Corin would never say this.
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>>582579 >western developed games LMAOOOOOOOO BRO IS PLAYING WESTERN GAMES
>>582595 WOTAH IS WOTAH
>>582592 Fucking brat.
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>>582461 The KR voices and lines are pretty good. Lucy and Ellen are some of my favourites. Belle and Wise are honestly pretty good too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1ekBbizGpM Some EN VAs deserve respect. >>582589 Som Corns deserve RAPE
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>>582604 i expected this response but i had to ask anyway.
>>582598 Yeah, thinking about it nobody would submit themselves to that level of torture of playing in Korean or Chinese
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>Visits the shrine >Sees this What do?
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>>582554 >>582571 that's a human
>>582617 Ooo that's pretty cool considering he's a bard.
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>>582579 For me, it just depends on the game itself. The nationality of the dev studio is mostly irrelevant. Anime style/Game set in Japan? JP. Game set in an English speaking country-inspired place? EN. This applies to every country. For example, I played The Witcher in Polish despite not knowing a lick of it. I played Guacamalee in Spanish, etc etc.
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>>582625 I take my sniff and then help her out.
>>582625 tickle tickle tickle
>>582643 Evil deeds would be done but alas I must save for pic related (I hope she's not total shit)
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>>582625 The site does not allow me to say whatever I am about to do
>>582625 upskirt, push panties to the side and take a quick photo then leave.
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>>582548 Yeah she's also great. >>582553 I was really surprised at JP Carty's performance being so meh, because I would usually expect the reverse, or at least parity, given how good JP VAs generally are at doing different voices. I'm guessing she had bad direction, I don't think she's a bad VA from what I remember of her performances in other media (she's Rider from FSN, as well as both of her sisters, her giant snake monster form, and her loli form in FGO). She certainly has the range for a better performance than what we got.
Be careful around hags. They're always looking to groom young naive proxies such as yourself
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>>582677 You forgot the best one...
>>582677 astra is younger than the proxy
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>>582638 Human is an adjective and noun.
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>>582677 Being groomed by Astra would fix me
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>>582519 Hoping it's before next patch because I'm still holding out on the free S rank and W-engine undecided whether I should get Fusion Compiler for Alice or Brimstone on the off chance Orphie/SEED is an attack agent
please stop sexualizing literal children
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>>582706 I'm gonna sexualize them even harder now because of you
>>582657 I just hope she's actually dps and not a defender/stunner/support.
>>582715 She'll be rupture, trust.
>>582706 they don't need me to, they do a good job of it themselves
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>>582677 I don't mind If its Shifu
>>581977 try importing the custom filters with this github page: https://github.com/pixeltris/TwitchAdSolutions I use ublock origin and the current solution it seems to do is to mute and block the twitch ad, replace the current video with the available low resolution video and then reload the player once the ad is done. So while you get a minute of low resolution of streaming, it doesn't stop the current stream and is a relatively painless solution.
>>582706 Never!
>>582579 CN is meh. KR is pretty good though. I wish I could have Belle in KR with everyone else in JP, her Eh-Nahs are cute as fuck and a little erotic. and it took me 20 minutes just to get soundscript working again so I could convert this to webm. Glad I never have to do that again.
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I hope they do more for Sanby. I dont think they did her justice tbh
>>582731 >>582733 T-this time for sure...
>>582706 Sexual thoughts about pure, innocent Jufufu are horrible. I would never suggest removing Jufufu's clothes and licking her tiny body all over, nibbling her neck and kissing her adorable little nipples. Only a heartless monster would think about her cute girlish mouth and tongue wrapped around a thick cock slick with her saliva, pumping in and out of her mouth until it erupts, the cum more than her little throat can swallow. The idea of thick viscous semen overflowing, dribbling down her chin over her flat chest, her tiny hands scooping it all up and watching her suck it off her fingertips is just horrible. You're all a bunch of sick perverts, thinking of spreading her smooth slender thighs, cock poised at the entrance to her pure, tight, virginal pussy, and thrusting in deep as a whimper escapes her lips which are slippery with cum, while her small body shudders from having her cherry taken in one quick stroke. It is truly nasty how you'd run your hands all over her tiny body while you violate her, feeling her nipples hardening against your tongue as you lick her chest, her neck and her armpits, savoring the scent of her skin and sweat while she trembles from the stimulation and as she reaches her climax, hearing her cry out softly as she has her first orgasm while that cock is buried impossibly deep inside her, pulsing violently as an intense amount of hot cum spurts forth and floods through her freshly-deflowered pussy for the first time, filling her womb only to spill out of her with a sickening squelch. You're all freaks. Jufufu's too pure for anyone to imagine her in such a terrible situation, and anyone who does is evil, evil, evil.
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>>582740 stop writing like a fujo sex with orange kitty
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>>582740 I can't resist to popcorn piss
>>582717 Moon rupture, trust the new element plan. Anything but physical anomaly and I'm happy to be honest.
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So is the Spook Shack anything like the Nutshack?
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Last try.
>>582764 Yeah, we're gonna see Tito Dick as an NPC next patch
>>582759 why hate rat
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>>582421 Grace should be bigger
>>582248 yixuan probably is 45 or older, cultivators can live a long time while still looking young
They could've made us gone on family bonding double-movie-date with General Chop and his son and learn about their secret noodle recipe, but instead they made us babysit this nightmare possessed lethargy creature that probably died at some point in her life, but was brought back to haunt everyone that so much as makes eye contact with her
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>>582766 erotic imouto
>>582777 Yixuan was still a young woman during the fall of the old capital, she's in her 30s at best.
>>582771 I have rat and vivian/soon to be yuzuha, I don't want rat to be replaced...
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>>582771 i love her but she's bad now
>>582786 she'll be fine when they start shilling physical next patch
>>582780 And they're based for that.
>>582780 Girls are cute, anon, and most of the people who play this game want to spend time with cute girls. That's why there was only one man in the entire event and he was clearly a token because they felt they couldn't get away with not doing it.
>>582780 are you gay for general chop or something ? wtf does he even look like outside of the noodle stand coco deserves love
finally cleared shiyu 7 bibi was the problem in first half
>>582780 Coco was a weirdo I barely remember ever speaking to her before in events, but a completely boba obsessed autist who speaks in sugar metaphors constantly was too much for me when there are plenty of other cute girls in this game that strike a good balance between quirky and not annoying
>>582780 when Wise says Coco's world is so simple, he's calling her simple i.e. retarded. And that's a good thing!
>>582780 Sjal movie event. That's all I want when they eventually add more characters to the movie date. I love movies, I want to watch movies with her. I want to autistically sperg movie details into her ear as we watch movies.
>>581893 Fufu thread
>>582794 For me she was the solution but I also have her ball. My problem was trying to make my Eve team work and frankly she just wasn't good enough to kill two bosses quickly. Mibibi, Bibi and Astra made it light work, though.
>>582766 I deserve my little sisters chastity! It's my birth right as an older brother!
>>582780 her tea shop is a drugs front or smth she sure does something heavy
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>>582803 Next theater event should just be all NPC's, agents try too hard at (You) pandering. I want to watch Paige get excited when we watch the first movie made solely with Bangboo DEI hires.
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>>582812 "Good morning, My Brother."
>>582785 nice, rat love cant wait for my walking jane/vivian buff >>582786 she's good now anon you just need menhera
>>582815 I want to take Hailey the movie clerk to a movie
>>582792 >are you gay for general chop or something? I don't actually have a problem with Coco and was trying to make a funny, but this is kind of an insane gut reaction to what I said lol >>582790 I agree that girls are cute but WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE BRO
where are my alice buffs
>>582815 >Next theater event should just be all NPC's, agents try too hard at (You) pandering. Anon the NPCs were hornier for the proxy than the agents in this event. Well okay maybe not Bibian or maybe Astra, but basically all of them had more flirty moments than Mibibi or Caesar got.
>>582815 Date with Paige.
>>582826 do we even know if she needs to be buffed yet the leak niggers have uploaded no gameplay of DA with either yuzu or alice wtf
>>582825 >WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE BRO She drinks so much tea milk that without it she goes into withdrawal. She's at the stage of addiction where she has to drink it just to feel normal.
>>582825 you act like the zzz writers wouldn't make a general chop movie event the same exact thing just noodle flavored "Wow, this plot sure is heating up! It's giving me an idea for a new dish...!"
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>>582815 I really want to take the Thiren JK whose bangs cover her eyes on a movie date I don't have her actual NPC portrait, so here's her head on Orphie's body (taken from that anon who poses models and posts them here)
Yuzu agent invite events are going to be crazy
hottest npc in the game (not counting sweety or the lolis)
>>582844 asha?
>>582835 >you act like the zzz writers wouldn't make a general chop movie event the same exact thing just noodle flavored Wow, it's almost like I specifically brought up general chop and his son for that exact fucking reason
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>>582827 Caesar had romance teasing if you play Wise since being flirty isn't part of her character and being horny would be weird for her
>>582825 I mean low blood sugar is a real thing, doesn't explain her autism but y'know.
>>582830 i want them to buff her hypercarry playstyle it is definitely undertuned, rn shes a second anomaly swap slave
>>582815 They should make Hailey pointi out that we've gone to the movies with multiple women several times when we invite her
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>>582827 also >maybe Astra Astra was pretty much hornier than Vivian this time since Vivian actually became interested in the movie, Astra immediately gets rid of the armrest between your seats so she can get closer, leads the conversation to eventually lead to the topic of that veil, and keeps cuddling into you even if you pick the wrong answer and troll her by telling her to open her eyes during the scary part of the movie
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>>582830 The Alice buffs will continue until she surpasses Hoshimi Momimi.
>movie dates so can someone explain to me why the face of the game was left out from the event?
>>582866 if this is the agenda we're going with I'm all for it
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>>582867 Mid/late 20 year olds can't date 16 year olds
>>582867 But we did go on movie date with Anby.
>>582831 >>582855 Unironically, did she act like this in chapter 4 during that small bit where you play as Ceaser? Because this was not how I remembered her at all lol
>>582867 I'm not sure. She got buffs and everything. They really need to do a second batch of them.
>>582867 She'd just fall asleep mid-film and we already had that gimmick with Coco
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>>582867 But Anby had a movie date?
>>582867 ellen in a dark enclosed space sitting in a chair motionless for 2 hours yeah she's just falling asleep bro
Someone should run a poll of who should be in the next movie invite batch
>>582851 I play Belle, but I checked and Wise still got called "Bestie." >>582862 In fairness Vivian cuddled almost immediately too.
FFFFFFFUUUUUUAAAARRRRKKKKK too bad I didn't get shifu will pull for her in her rerun
>>582884 Different line, when you point out that you're pretty much on a date, Caesar gets bashful with Wise and laughs with Belle On the other hand, Belle gets extra pandering with Harumasa where she gets to tug at his sleeve and have her face molested, so it evens out
>>582887 You still have time, anon. You know what to do.
>>582875 Iirc she was talking to Caesar fine. I vaguely remember her complaining about her job being hard because she wasn't good at talking to people.
Ether level 15 miasma priest is rough.
>>582890 I know, but all is for ju fufu...
>>582896 >ether level I keep seeing that phrase occasionally here but I have no idea what it means. Is there some hidden event going on that's not in the event tab?
>>582902 hollow zero ether intensity level new LV goes up to 15/15
>>582902 your lost void?
>>582896 I'm glad nothing above 8 awards poly not even going to try anything above that
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>>582907 Damn, the fuck are they putting in there.
>>582896 your trial astra and ult spam team?
>>582907 Orphie skin confirmed. 5 gigs to re-render her huge fucking tits and another 5 for her fat fucking thighs.
>>582913 Sex update.
>>582915 Yixuan trigger astra, just beat it.
>>582907 It's too big...
>>582903 >>582904 I've been meaning to do it on my day off work
>>582905 You're missing out on the title bro
they murdered alice holy
>>582940 not giving you my data
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this is my wife btw
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>>582827 I don't know, it just feels like agents can't live up to NPC's in these sorts of events since we already know them in and out thanks to the incessant marketing for their banners. It feels good when you get to slowly explore NPC's and find new angles to them. Like Elfie being a human fucker, Orchidea having experience in the hollows, Venus looking at you with marriage and kids in mind, or Coco being a straight drug addict. I don't know what I'm gonna get when I go into the theater with an NPC, on the other hand I know the second I sit down for a movie with Vivivan it's just gonna be "LORD PHAETHON" wailing for the next 2 hours.
>>582940 that's why I picked Koleda's ball from the free shit.
>>582917 Why are these teenagers so fat?
You guys know AI is created for a reason right.
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>>582963 Bibian can be one note, but her movie did at least focus on her survivor's guilt instead of Lord Phaethon I like how she does actually have friends and interests unrelated to you
do we know about yuzuha's prefarming and stuff yet?
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They removed Alice's crit scaling, kneecapped her gimmick and made her another AP scaling quickswap off-fielder
>>582964 >Yuzuha ID giwtwm
Yuzuha
>>582986 current beta sword seems to be new mat
hey (1) gonna post your source
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>>582987 it's over...
>>582987 i was already preparing my nicole astra wheelchair... but now she does not have a hypercarry option at all. sad
>>582987 tell me you're lying cornbro please
>>582999 These nerds are so fit holy
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>>582999 >>583005 cant believe this belle sprite made it into the game unmolested by censorship
>>582987 Man, I thought the original vision they seemed to have of her being an on field disorder support focused on buffing the off fielder was cool.
>>583002 >>583003 >>583004 >I'm literally posting the leaks >these niggas would rather rely to a (1) doomposter
>>582993 oh nice, didnt know she was physical. Thanks bro
>>582999 My sister is too erotic.. also why the fuck is wise so buff all of a sudden??
>>582987 I guess my crit fanged metal pieces will go unused.
>>582999 Belle looks like an actual adult now >gave Wise chest muscles and abs >that Belle midriff hoooly
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>>582987 Don't care I'm rolling regardless. Kudos to the devs for keeping any sort of powercreep in check
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If you do not have this you are not invited to the /zzz/ guild.
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>>583004 I'm not, these devs are retarded and had no vision for her kit from the start She's a disorder bot now, her sword qi has been turned into a literal energy meter instead >>583020 You can keep powercreep in check without compromising on interesting kits
>>582974 no core changes?
>>583014 usually cornbro is the guy who posts that image with that filename and he isn't a doomposter you just posted a bunch of machine translated multiplier numbers I want actual kit descriptions
Are you guys ready???
>>583023 How do I get that?
>>582987 Holy fuck I'm feeling irrationally angry, this off-fielder meta will be the death of this game I just want to play the characters I pull
>>583014 /zzz/ is full of gullible fucks anon
>>583027 Kek to be fair I had no idea what her gimmick was. I just assumed they hammered her multipliers
wait no fucking way
>>583014 hes right and youre wrong
>>583036 Weird. The one who asked me was a female officer.
>>583036 oh I thought it was gonna be Kami North
Thank you for your noble sacrifice, Alicebros. I really needed a skip banner, shame it had to be you. I hope you can be reborn as the first 5 stars character to get an alternate 5 stars version with a better kit, somewhere down the line but no sooner than 3.0, thanks.
jesus fucking christ he's ripped
>>583035 Her V1 kit was a weird blend of SS Anby and Miyabi and I thought it was quite interesting with the caveat that they continue working at it They scrapped the SS Anby mark system nearly immediately and now we have this instead
>>583039 She's only female for Belleplayers I think
>>583041 honestly this is just turning it inot a skip patch for me i was only rolling yuzuha for alice
>>583027 Full how you don't post a link or full
>>582987 Can they fucking stop with the quickswap off-fielder shit? Sometimes I actually want to play all of my characters instead of just playing only my dps
i have faith that alice will still be fun and they're not done tinkering with her but what the fuck man why is she anomaly at all this is where all their confusion is coming from why couldn't she be our first rupture DPS who isnt yixuan I still roll but jesus christ hoyo pls
>>582999 >people wondering why the siblings have summer bods They should have been training in yunkui summit for a while by the time this drops. Learning ether fu, physically diving into hollows, activating your meridians, and nonstop sibling sex since 1.0 tends to make one quite fit.
>>583052 i mean she is an anomaly now, quite proper one in fact
>>583052 > why couldn't she be our first rupture DPS who isnt yixuan I assume that role will only be for important canonically powerful people
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>>583049 Because it's MTL gibberish She applies a DoT and is built around quickswapping and dumping resources for Jane / Piper teams
>>583057 I just feel like they made yuzuha to be an anomaly support to boost miyabi players cause miyabi players make up fucking 85% of the game and they had a rough draft of alice as a dps rupture, scrapped it and tried to meet half way as some sort of crit anomaly but they gave up cause the banner's coming sooner rather than later and just turned her into disorder slave i HATE miyabi
>>583064 Link?
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>>583065 yeah it does feel exactly like you said i personally do not give a fuck about how she does her damage, be it anomaly, rupture, crit, i just hate the fact that she is now more locked into one particular playstyle, that being a quick swap disorder her previous version had more hyper carry capability
>>582724 yes this is literally the script i was using. it broke yesterday, you can check the issues page on the repository.
At this point I'm pulling Yuzuha over Alice without a doubt
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>Fufu is off field >Alice is off field >Yuzuha is off field I don't know if they realize that quickswapping and Aftershocks aren't really a great solution to the problem they highlighted of Agents not getting enough field time Don't know how they would balance things to entice more equal field time though
>>583079 Off field agents get energy regen while On field agents do not.
>>583064 wtf why is she actually just a phys version of vivian how the fuck does it make sense for a rapier wielder to be off-field DPS this is honestly feels bad man I already have burnice vivian, i'm not pulling fucking miyabi, why why why, hopefully she can somewhat cope on-field if played well like vivian sort of
>>583064 this literally reads as physical vivian >dot >has stacks >spends stacks to do "polarity strike" when anomaly is applied, which is a percentage of the anomaly
Signature engine also completely changed OLD Critical damage increased by 40/46/52/58/64%; when the wearer applies [Strong Attack] to the enemy, the target's defense is reduced by 10/11.5/13/14.5/16, which lasts for 20 seconds and can be stacked up to 2 layers. NEW The wearer's [Abnormal Control] is increased by 36/41.4/46.8/52.2/57.6%; when the wearer applies [Strong Attack] to the enemy, [Abnormal Mastery] is increased by 15/17.2/19.5/21.8/24%, which lasts for 20 seconds and can be stacked up to 2 layers. The duration is refreshed when it is triggered repeatedly. When the wearer enters the battlefield, he immediately gains 2 layers of the effect.
>>583079 It is though? I would pull for an off field agent more than for an on field agent at this point.
>>583042 >>582999 HOLY FUCKIN KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>583083 I like agents I can on field which is why nagi and shifu are fun to play with. They have active block mechanics that feel good to gain mastery of.
>>583042 Yup. Every computer nerd is ripped like that.
>>583064 I wanted an on-field parry heavy anomaly agent. What the hell is this?
>>583085 The only way this makes sense to me is if there's an on field fire anomaly in the pipeline, but then I have to question why she seemed more hypercarry in earlier versions.
they're going to make komano the fucking spook squad on field anomaly agent aren't they fuck this shit bro
>>583089 >alice ball JANE?
I simply do not read character kits until they start inviting shills to try them so I can't be disappointed by drastic changes
>>583064 >Physical Vivian So is every anomaly just gonna be Miyabi support
>>583098 Or crazy idea, just play the billion other on field anomaly agents in this game.
>>582999 >>583005 Belle kinda looks like a late 20s women trying to look young by imitating high school / university students
>>583104 >billion other nigga I already have all the off field agents cause I like them. I skipped miyabi forever, I skipped jane forever, I can't keep hoping yanagi synergizes with agents I enjoy to cope with a limited
Also this reads like " YANAGI IS JUST A MIYABI DISORDER BOT" which is peak retardation when she hypercarries better than Sanby.
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These changes won't stick. I already spent 2 weeks of battery and 2 calibrators for a perfect mix of crit/ap fanged metal discs, and Dawei, being my old friend, would never invalidate my hard work like this.
>>583075 oh that sucks, I'm on firefox maybe thats why its still working at the moment, pretty sure once twitch patches that out I'm screwed as well. fk the twitch ads.
>>583110 >>583108 Case in point. Just play the two together.
my customers have dementia, but it's good for my ratings
>>583096 this new kit is a complete 180 rofl she went from pseudo miyabi getting stacks from mini assaults to unleash hold EX to literal phys vivian
>>583111 true my fanged was forever fucked with those +2 crit +2 ap mishmash trash pieces alice was my salvation dawei is giving us a test of faith
>>583114 that doesn't feel good nigga I don't know why you're acting all smug the new kit is objectively boring on paper, I already use yanagi with my burnice and vivian all the time I WANT ANOTHER FUCKING DRIVER NOT ANOTHER VIVIAN I ALREADY HAVE THE VIVIAN
Also I'm betting they rerun yanagi instead of miyabi this patch too.
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>>583116 So she's a sub-DPS instead of main? WTF? We already have Burnice and Vivian for those roles...
>>583098 no they wont shut up
Has there ever been this drastic of a design direction change in the beta for an agent?
so what does the engine do now
>>583110 Does Yanagi have a DoT?
>>583128 i mean its my reading of the stuff in >>583064 - when team applies assault add a physical dot - when assaulted enemies are disordered, increase disorder damage - when alice attacks get stacks - when team applies anomaly, spend stacks to do an additional hit which is a percentage of an assault
>>583128 Bernice is more hands-off, but if you've played Bibian you'd know you need to juggle her field time quite a bit to keep her stacks. Since Alice was being tested with her, she wouldn't have worked very well as a field hog.
>>583079 >>583082 If Ju Fufu's dash attack loop is still there after it hits live servers, then her constant Aftershocks might keep her on field for a long time. Even though she isn't your active character, since you can see her out and about, she's considered on field and that also makes Koleda's engine for the energy regeneration not good. https://youtu.be/89eVR8A1EEw?t=386
>>583142 shock?
>>583144 Sounds more like she can either work as a Jane support (which would be pretty niche) or as the hypercarry who needs a disorder bot sub DPS. Most likely both.
>>583155 >comparing yanagi's natural shock to vivian's actual DOT built in her kit lol
>>583147 Bro your Yanagi? Your Jane? Bibian's best teammates are field hogs.
>>583159 Ergo alice is the field hog.
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Jane Doe wonnered
I'm overly dooming right now so the universe feels my energy and makes alice work on field anyway but jesus christ i've never been more annoyed at this game hopefully someone actually uploads DA gameplay soon so we see the verdict
>>583163 I don't know how likely DA gameplay is, the entire reason it hasn't happened yet is because nobody wanted to do it with how much they kept changing her.
>>583159 For a different reason, that being them not ticking Abloom too often.
Wait so you're telling me I have to wait 3+ banners for a non-off fielder character to come out? 3 Banners of characters you press E on and you don't see them again until you need stacks, boy I love the off-fielder meta
Not to salespost but making Alice into another quickswap anomaly might be the most retarded thing to ever do Her first kit was still quickswappy but fulfilled a different niche of def shredding it could’ve been cool I do not get why they keep doing this. Who is gonna roll a Phys flavored Vivian? Phys is the shittiest element in the game. Who is she even BiS for?
Imma be real with you i don't see how alice is physical vivian when Vivian just need to do EX to get her ablooms and Alice actually needs to build physical anomaly to build her off field meter.
>>583179 well thats the nature of a party game when theres only one on field active character and its swap heavy. At least they're trying to fix the issue with adding aftershock characters that shows up on field to do cool moves in the background.
>>583179 there's an on-fielder banner right now thougheverbeit?
>>583187 she probably can apply assault with her dot like vivian applies corruption with her prophecy >>583185 the fact that she is physical is a signal that she is playable on field tho, you most probably will be able to build anomaly with your basic attacks, unlike vivian who does almost no ether damage with NAs
>>582827 >blah blah blah I hate off fielders Nigga just play who you want. I built a DPS Rina so I could have her fat tits on my screen 24/7.
>>583192 Nigga Vivian doesn't need to build corruption to use her ablooms, that's the difference.
VIVIAN DON'T LOOK
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>>583179 Roll your Shifu or suffer
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>>583092 >Not giving him the beta a-pose ult
Also the more I read the kit three more or seems to be creating a balance between off field time and on field for anomaly teams instead of creating an AFKer like burnice or Vivian.
>>583198 It isn't exactly like vivian but it seems you just proc assault once, start the dot and then go off field when you have all 3 stacks of the new shit, and then you go off field and use your other anomaly agent. I need to see gameplay first tbh before I firebomb their hq. It's possible it's a more 50/50 split but I still don't understand who would want that unless her numbers are crazy enough on field
>>583043 I wonder if they saw feedback from players crying that Yixuan was too hard to play and cucked out as usual
>>583208 I'm going to repeat myself, but Bibian is not hands-off like Burnice. Keeping her stacks requires actually using her.
alice is crying
>>583194 Did you respond to the wrong post, anon?
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>>583042 >train with shifu for a whole ass month >Get jacked. Wise becoming the man we all ought to be.
>>583204 still the best ult
Finally found the source >lying flame I'll choose to believe everything ITT is fake until Hakush gets updated.
>>583194 post build?
>>583224 If nothing else, at least the Belle skin will be sex.
>>583224 want to try checking the URL, big guy?
>>583210 >but it seems you just proc assault once, If you're a Jane main you would know that proccing assault requires quite a bit of on field time lol. Especially if you don't have the sig. >>583214 I know, I also use burnice onfield than most mostly because I got her m3 and she actually does a lot of damage with her combos.
>>583240 yeah but read her kit she gets a shit ton of anomaly mastery from everything lol it's clear they wanted to speed that part of it up
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Translations S-Rank Anomaly — Alice’s Signature Old CRIT DMG increases by 40/46/52/58/64%; when the wielder inflicts [Assault] on an enemy, the target’s DEF is reduced by 10/11.5/13/14.5/16 for 20 seconds, stacking up to 2 times. New The wielder's [Anomaly Mastery] increases by 36/41.4/46.8/52.2/57.6%; when the wielder inflicts [Assault] on an enemy, [Anomaly Proficiency] increases by 15/17.2/19.5/21.8/24% for 20 seconds, stacking up to 2 times. Reapplying refreshes the duration. Upon entering the battlefield, the wielder immediately gains 2 stacks of the effect.
>>583240 Alice is different in proccing Assault, since she can do it with her EX as well. Or at least so I remember.
>>583243 Doesn't really matter when that anomaly res starts building up, which is what the disorders is supposed to help with i guess.
>>583224 fact i see no one else talking bout it is just werid
>>583251 >[Anomaly Proficiency] increases by 15/17.2/19.5/21.8/24% the first AP% increase? thats like 120~140 AP on a built character
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>>583218 I did...
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Do we like big assets?
>>583268 vivian's proportions are perfectly calibrated for the maximum degree of perfection each millimeter is carefully designed by God and the Power of Anime (peace be upon him) himself to maximize enjoyment and pleasure, brought to this earth by our prophet Lord Dawei and that's His word this is an open message to all modders and artists who DARE to draw her off-model every SINGLE INCH, every SINGLE PIXEL, that diverges from the original design is a SIN against the Lord Himself, and will bring SEVERE, ETERNAL, punishment for your soul amen
What are her new stat growths anyway?
>>583277 AM 106>142
hakush.in has updated with the beta changes https://zzz3.hakush.in/
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>>583221 Is training disciples the ultimate cuckoldry? I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than being a shifu. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are training, disciplining, choosing tight pants for, and opening your disciple's meridians for at least 1 month solely so he can go and get ravaged by another Agent. All the hard work you put into your student - teaching him to spawn bridges out of thin air, double teaming him with your pet cat, sitting on him while making him do push ups. All of it has one simple result: his body is more enjoyable for the young women who'll rape him with every hole. Raised the perfect disciple? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random purple stalker who had nothing to do with the way he bulked up, who marries him. She gets to wring him dry every night. She gets the benefits of his toned and firm "personality" that came from the way you trained him. As a 35 year old shifu with a student, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 1 month of your life simply to raise a boy for another woman to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically
Also the more I read this the more retarded the doomposting seems to me, the whole thing about abloom is that it takes the other anomaly ticks and retriggers them.
Snowman boss
>>583304 he's gonna try and ruin our beach episode by freezing the world
>>583314 That's just the plot of Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire OH WAIT THAT'S WHY THE SPOOK SHACK'S THERE
Rofl imagine -14000% def shred on M1, pretty sure they didn't care about the numbers yet on the new agents.
>>583290 >a random purple stalker Vivian is old and busted, the next shilled banner waifu will be the one who benefits from your shifu slaving. That's how the gacha cycle works.
>>583295 I wonder if Ablooms count as physical anomaly damage, considering they do deal physical damage when triggered by Assault.
Based on Alice's new kit, what discs and subs does she want now?
>>583287 what is it instead of crit rate now?
>>583329 AP fanged metal
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>>583289 NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>583290 Vivian is short term, the long term wife is your sister since she remains by your side throughout the entire game even if she's a bangboo
>>583200 Yixuan made this so it belongs her hee by default
>painted black toenails What did they mean by this.
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>>581831 >i consistently get a 4th stun vs Bringer with my ellen/lighter/lyacon team just by putting lyacon on shockstar. Lycaon should be dealing over 90% of his Daze with his EX, DAs, and Ultimate. You extremely rarely can afford to actually on-field him, as it's ridiculously inefficient, at most you can afford yourself charged BA1 after DAs, and maybe ~one full BA combo somewhere in-between (albeit Ellen doesn't have swap windows this big). Basically what I'm saying, Shockstar shouldn't have enough attacks to work with to provide any meaningful Daze increase as it only affects BAs, dash Attacks, and Dodge Counters. And if it really does, you're simply losing damage, as you should be on-fielding Ellen most of the time - not Lycaon. An extra stun won't be enough to compensate for the damage loss that comes from playing her as a burst. And even if you do want to on-field Lycaon, and you are only building up Daze with BAs for some reason, you should understand that it only provides an 11% Daze buildup increase, as Lycaon's BAs come bundled with 80% of Daze increase already. It's even less effective, if you happen to be using Lycaon's W-Engine (which you shouldn't be). So what I'm saying, even in this scenario there absolutely exist a rotation that will get you four stuns without Shockstar simply because of how minuscule its effect is. But actually going for four stuns is unlikely to be your best best as you should be, again, on-fielding your Ellen more.
Any important yuzuha changes?
>miasma priest got its HP inflated from 77m to 91m I was just talking the other day about how the HP inflation seemed to have stopped in 2.1...
>>583367 atk buff is still 1200 but it needs 3000 base, previously needed 3200
>>583326 gimmie vivian and her authentic tight teen tiddies over shifu's 500 year old cultivator granny posing as a 20-something anyday >>583362 is black toenail polish an incest signal of some sort
any good videos of high scoring runs with the bibi burnice da team
>>583367 They gave her a fully modeled reproductive system up to the fallopian tubes
>>583341 Atk% is 2nd best now?
>>583372 >beta hp numbers dont matter
>>583367 her aftershock builds a bit more anomaly from 19% boost to 25% boost not very important >>583373 where did you get that?
>>583366 >if you happen to be using Lycaon's W-Engine (which you shouldn't be) What should you run on him?
>>583373 >>583401 found it, its 40% of her attack now, nice
>>583403 Either Steam Oven or Hellfire Gears.
>>583290 This is why the last step in our training involves marrying into Yunkui Summit
Alice changes TLDR? is Vivian her best teammate?
with alice's crit shit getting removed and yuzu's attack target easier to hit I wonder if they got warned to cool it with the wengine stat targets lol that's a definite pro to this cycle
>>583413 no one knows it’s been out for 45 minutes wait for gameplay
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>>583366 you post all of this spreadsheet yap but i literally have multiple runs of me testing using proto punk vs shockstar in my double stunner team and the shockstar runs cleared faster. it's not like i can run astral voice in that team, so what exactly would be more optimal? don't say replace one of the stunners with a support, btw. i run double stunner with ellen because it's fun, not because its her best team.
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>>583412 She's too old to marry
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>Alice changes >see that the DEF% Shred part of her kit is removed >it's also completely gone from the W-Engine as well >wanna go and congratulate the anon who pulled a PEN% #5 Fanged Metal that his piece became guaranteed BiS >notice W-Engine is ATK% now >"wait a mintue" >go back to her kit, read the core >read other stuff >CRIT is gone completely from it Oh no no no... Millions... BRICKED
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Ellen Joe. What do you think of her?
>>583372 Does an HP increase mean she can force a second Miasma Field? I slightly recall that she tries to now, but you can dump ult hard enough to take her down
>>583416 They should just add more proper cope W-engines tbdesu. The current situation where off-class W-engines end up being the best copes is getting pretty silly.
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>>583444 >distinct nipple bumps >in fucking HIGH SCHOOL Fuck Hoyo. Either make her OF AGE or nerf her tits, you can't have both.
>>583444 boring
>>583416 I still want more crit balls, but this is better (if it stands)
>>583468 I remember this
>>583416 A traditional anomaly is harder to build than Alice (V2.1.2) doe. 3 optimal substats instead of 2, literally just slap 2pc woodpecker and crit 4 if you're running an AP ball and slap 2pc freedom/chaos with AP disc 4 if you're running a crit ball. You don't need to hit 100% crit and/or 400 AP, just get an even number of both.
>>583468 Lmao what the fuck is this.
>>583444 she's cute and the scissor move is cool in concept but i never rolled for her first because qingyi was better so i saved and later because she was forgotten and powercrept >>583460 imagine if they buffed her tits when they buffed her gameplay
>>583497 you're correct on paper but that would never of been the community sentiment, look how many people melty when they can't hit trigger 80% crit rate when it does not matter
>>582455 JP is the same shit, normal Japanese people do not talk like anime characters.
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>>583509 Fuck the community. The only people I listen to are my fellow council members in the /zzz/ guild.
>>583505 one good thing this Eango shitter did was making these silly AI songs i find it funny kek
>>583497 3 optimal substats is literally EASIER to build than 2 optimal substats. if you only care about ap and atk then even the best possible disc has TWO bricks tats it can roll on every levelup
>>583525 >hit sub 30k on pompey >get norted >tfw
>>582987 okay, i actually sat down to read the changes. MTL since i don't speak chink, obviously. the impression i'm getting from her new kit is that she's some hybrid between yanagi and vivian. she actually needs to be on field in order to get resources for her EBA, and once she uses her EBA, she effectively gets 3 ablooms that can be procced by any other character, including herself. these physical ablooms can also still disorder with normal physical, so it seems like they want to ptentially emphasize a mono-phys team with jane even more. either way, she literally REQUIRES field time in order to stack her EBA and get her resources still, so she will play much more like yanagi where you want a lower maintenance anomaly to play with her. some of the MTL stuff is hard to parse and I might be wrong, so please correct me if i'm misunderstanding, but she's hardly been turned into an off-field bot. i do agree that her kit is significantly less interesting now though, she is now just a weird amalgamation of existing anomaly units rather than being a unique hybrid scaler. i expected they would simplify her kit because it was definitely too difficult for retards to understand or build before, but tis is a lot worse than i expected. i'm still pulling her regardless but it's a bit disappointing
>2.1.3 Alice Kit TLDR Anomaly Carry / Support - literally assault Yanagi Buffs Assault Anomaly Buildup and increase the MV/s of Assault Disorder >Core Alice deals additional DMG% based on duration of applied Flinch on enemy (Assault anomaly state) 6% DMG per second left on anomaly (this is just an assumption, wait for confirmation) Buff Assault Disorder MV/s MV per second is increased by 43% (450% + 7.5%/s -> 450% + 50.5%/s) Buff Assault Anomaly Buildup 25% Assault Buildup whenever Alice applies Assault >[Sword] and [Stardust] stacks (part of Core) Max 300 [Sword] Max 3 [Stardust] Consuming 100 [Sword] (by her Enhanced Basic) grants 1 [Stardust] Alice's attacks grant [Sword] 6 [Sword] when Alice applies normal Assault through anomaly buildup >Polarity Assault (part of Core) When any character in team applies Anomaly, Alice consumes 1 [Stardust] Applies Polarity Assault dealing 100% of original Assault damage instantly Can Disorder with any Anomaly including Assault >Additional Ability Anomaly or Support 6 [Sword] when any Disorder is triggered If Alice's AM is over 140, every 1 AM will increase AP by 1.5 Alice gains 300 [Sword] when entering battle >Enhanced Basic This is the Miyabi attack Consume up to 300 [Sword] 3 Charges - more charge, more damage This is how you consume [Sword] to gain [Stardust] Notable Attacks for [Sword] Stacks B5 String = 19.3 (22.9 with EB5) Chain = 70.9 EX = 32.4 or 34.1 Assist Follow-up = 19.1
>>583497 my hope for this beta was for them to slightly buff the mvs so crit dmg would become equal to the other stats this would make any piece with correct inital stats roll into a god roll hard to build at a baseline, but extremely easy to max out.
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>>583429 >spreadsheet yap That's just an excuse. I'm yet to observe a single case of """spreadsheet yap""" to not match what's happening in-game, because that's just math. >i literally have multiple runs of me testing using proto punk vs shockstar in my double stunner team Run Swing then. Proto Punk doesn't have any effect on its 2x set. 6% Impact loss from running it is unironically much more impactful than the 4xShockstar effect itself. Swing will give you a more reliable buff activator (Ultimate) and 20% extra ER might get you an ~extra EX over the course of the fight, which is a bit of extra Daze. >so what exactly would be more optimal? On-fielding Ellen more would be optimal. If all you do is on-fielding your stun agents, of course Summit and Proto (in your test case) won't have much of an effect as you aren't buffing your DPS - you're buffing your stunners. But you shouldn't be on-fielding your Stun agents, unless you playing a true burst DPS (Hugo, Harumasa, Zhu), which Ellen isn't.
>>583526 I have never seen that before that's honestly amazing.
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>Don't like Vivian. >Decide I'm gonna get all her movie QTE's wrong. >Watch movie with her. >Barely read the lines, pick choices based on what I think a normal person would dislike. >Accidentally select the correct one every time. What the FUCK is wrong with this crazy bitch?
>>583547 >300 sword to do biggest eba >disorder gives 6 sword wtf this has gotta be a placeholder number right
>>583552 >On-fielding Ellen more would be optimal. i am mostly on-fielding ellen though. the use of shockstar is mainly to enable the daze bump from the 2 PC, combined with 2 PC summit, to push me over a breakpoint where i can stun bringer twice before he does a hand phase, which was not possible for me with any other build. this made a significant difference for my score which is not achievable otherwise. >Swing will give you a more reliable buff activator (Ultimate) and 20% extra ER might get you an ~extra EX over the course of the fight, which is a bit of extra Daze. this would require me to skip double chaining on ellen which would be a much more significant damage loss per stun window, especially since i'm using hugo's engine
>>583547 >polarity assault is that actually what it's named or did you just use that to frame it better? cause if so kek they actually just were instructed to make another yanagi instead of a hybrid on-field debuff kino agent
>>583547 Someone was telling me she's viable in a miyabi team. Is this true?
>>583562 lmao she's just happy to be with you
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>>583562 Let Bibian in, Lord Phaethon
>>583563 I can inject millions of swords into her that will pierce her ovum if you know what I mean
300....swords?
>>583571 >has to onfield to charge her gauge seems doubtful, that's time mibibi could be spending hitting stuff
>>583570 This is the untranslated CN text [极性强击]
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>>583563 no, it's because she is actually not an off-fielder and she NEEDS to play on field to stack her nuke. compare the sword buildup of her basics and ex to disorders. it is a bit excessively low right now, but given that she can disorder with HERSELF and she starts the battle with a free nuke, they are probably expecting some kind of self-feedback loop where you just feed her nuke back into itself with the polarity assaults it grants you. either way, she actually will require significant field time as she's currently designed. burnice is probably her best partner, but piper is probably close since you can just field piper to burn an EX and go back to alice. they seem to really want to push the mono-phys angle but i think she still has anti-synergy with jane as she's designed since they're both field hogs. i still don't know what they're cooking with this character and it's frustrating.
>burnice is probably her best partner
>>583594 thank god I was waiting for the generation values on her attacks, since they're kind of low it means you're correct burnice unfortunately won't be good for the new DA boss though
I will NOT be harassed in my own private domicile Bibian.
Continue the bloodline
>>583598 >burnice unfortunately won't be good for the new DA boss though they bricked her even futhter its now 40% dmg res instead of the usual 20
where the divegrass goal videos
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>>583596 >>583598 i mean in general contexts. the fact that they're deliberately cucking burnice by making the new boss fire-resistant is weird especially since most people think she already got superceded by vivian, but there is a lot of fire shilling ELSEWHERE in the current patch cycle so i suppose it's fine.
>>583586 She's not a disorderbot though so you're not going to want to use her with miyabi anyway. Most probably why they aren't doing miyabi's rerun this patch.
God fucking damnit
>>583603 wow they're going that hard just to shill bibian
>>583624 keep doing it dawei my canon wife
>>583603 jeeeesus christ why? doesn't that lowkey kind of cuck fufu yixuan users as well? maybe that's their goal lol
>>583624 based
>>583624 I think it has more to do with people brute forcing things with Miyabi and Evelyn. Mono ice is insane, and Evelyn could kill Typhon at m0 despite the fire resistance. First miasma boss has 40% ice resist, this new one has 40% fire resist.
>>583603 What's the point of doing this when you can't even pull Vivian anymore
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>>583639 not only 40% ice resist, but it's also just immune to being frozen, which i don't remember if that was already true for ice resistant enemies. either way, they really don't like mono ice being so strong in all content
>>583635 just like we had a whole patch of double ice weak bosses we're gonna have double ether bosses the whole time. but one will be shifu coded and one will be menhera+alice coded
>>583651 >>583639 freeze delaying stun timer was a mistake
>>583639 yea miasma priest initially also had a fire weakness chinks kill it with eve + m1 astra now m1 astra is weaker than a weakness, as it doesnt affect daze. i imagine eve+lighter would be killing faster than fufu-less yixuan, if not for the nerf. fufu catching strays, shouldve made her ether too.
>>583651 Sometimes im grateful that powercreep isn’t super rampant in this game but genuinely I think it’s accidental sometimes. Devs had no clue that astra/nicole was going to be played as it was and mono-ice being as powerful as it would be to cuck their intended two limited god comp for miyabi
>>583655 not really? it's one of the most interesting mechanics in the game, and it's one of the ways that the anomaly system can benefit characters that aren't necessarily dedicated to abusing it. shatter also buffs CDMG, so they obviously intended for it to be used this way to benefit ice attacker burst windows. miyabi mono-ice is just a gross exploitation of it, but miyabi is a broken unit and shits on content no matter what team you give her. it's not an issue with freeze/shatter, it's miyabi being broken
>>583675 >it's one of the most interesting mechanics in the game, and it's one of the ways that the anomaly system can benefit characters that aren't necessarily dedicated to abusing it. it also made lycaon + soukaku better teammates than yanagi + astra so yes it was a mistake. you were supposed to have to pull a 3xS team to do that much damage
>>583648 Can you link that playlist btw? I forgot to bookmark it. >>583660 Just in general it's starting to feel like they're going a lot harder on targeted shilling. 1.X DA bosses had obvious shill buffs for respective characters, but I feel like the 2.X ones are taking it to a whole other level so far.
>>583620 >While Belle is in the hollows, the girls line up to swallow. Jesus fucking christ I didn't know I was missing out on peak zzz.
>>583544 >>583547 Thanks. And bleh. I was happy when they removed the mark gimmick since it's hard to see in combat and probably finnicky to work with (imagine fucking up a rotation because your mark was a .1 points away from getting proc'd), but they took 1 step forward and 2 steps back. Each move giving an arbitrary amount of a 300 point meter is the opposite of retard proofing, and seems hard to build autistic rotations around. Also was kind of looking forward to trying her in a double support/standard stun comps since she seemed good with Nico, guess that dream is dead.
>>583686 >it also made lycaon + soukaku better teammates than yanagi + astra Is that actually true on whaled accounts? I never see mono-ice with M6 Miyabi.
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>>583569 >the use of shockstar is mainly to enable the daze bump from the 2 PC, combined with 2 PC summit, to push me over a breakpoint where i can stun bringer twice before he does a hand phase, which was not possible for me with any other build Well isn't that wrong, though? You did just say >i am mostly on-fielding ellen though All your Shockstar can possibly do is add maybe one Lycaon BA chain (that's A LOT of benefit of the doubt I'm giving it, it would be more like 2 Charge BAs) worth of Daze. So you can do just that once instead of robbing yourself of a buff for the entirety of the fight >this would require me to skip double chaining on ellen No it won't. You don't use stunner Chain Attacks. You use their Ultimates. >which would be a much more significant damage loss per stun window I'm not particularly sure about that. Hugo's W-Engine does improve Chain Attacks, but it also improves EX, so for Ellen's burst it doesn't shift the balance from her baseline. And at her baseline, her Chain Attack is bad. It was downright awful before the buff, but it's still at most side-grade-ish to her burst rotation. Double-CA with Ellen is a damage down compared to single-CA + two CA cancels, as that nets you a longer stun window. No CA used to be optimal, but this time around I was more comfortable with using CAs a bit, albeit their main benefit was Decibel generation.
Upon closer inspection that channel has a bunch of random shit and not strictly for his AI songs. I apologize to Eango and his experience. >>583689 https://suno.com/playlist/d9b6eaea-9045-4a5e-b2f8-58c5e45d892b
>>583620 this was pretty catchy, just need the suno link so I dont tell youtube my preference.
I'll take an A rank Shiyu completion before I let shilling influence my pulls Da Wei you will never break me.
>>583713 no clue about whales. Im guesisng a lot of them just want to swipe for damage and not learn2play though.
>>583675 sure, its not a mistake by definition it was a non-issue in 1.0, but creates a design hole that the game designers will eventually fall freeze buffing crit damage is fine, miyabi would be able to exploit it since she is the agent with a gigantic attack with no "heavy hits" until the end which uses freeze to its fullest the thing is, there is no reason for it to hold the stun duration, while allowing stun damage bonus, it becomes a exponential scaling that will be a point of contention you are already buffing damage, while extend stun window (which is another damage buff that scales multiplicatively) if you want to keep damage in check you dont want to multiply stuff willy nilly, stun duration is a multiplication factor (more stun window, more damage) and freeze allows you to exploit stun damage, while extending stun, while getting freeze bonus damage, its a triple-dip
>>583656 a true beast
>>583714 >not using soukaku ba3 after dash cancel before qaing to ellen why not? i thought that was the whole point of dash cancels on her
>>583737 >it becomes a exponential scaling that will be a point of contention >just remembered the video I saw of a guy extending a stun window on Bringer to 40 fucking seconds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd8dGhwKze4
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>>583743 You're absolutely right. It's between not having enough time and dropping the spaghetti. I think there was one, maybe two examples of me simply needing to swap in quicker, so I had to skip it, but most of those you see are just misplays.
>>583656 GOD SHE'S SO AAAAA-A-astonishingly badass! Yeah! Also what the fuck is with the audio quality?
>>583714 >So you can do just that once instead of robbing yourself of a buff for the entirety of the fight there is no other buff with consistent uptime though? proto punk is borderline useless vs bringer because he gives very few parriable attacks after his first pattern, and swing jazz is conditional on using a stunner chain (DPS loss) or a stunner ult (hard to control timing around burst windows). there's a significant portion of on-field ellen damage that will never be buffed, and likely most of your burst rotations will also never be buffed. in this context, is it not obvious how just getting another burst rotation is better than slightly buffing 1/3 of them? if bringer was in DA right now, i would actually record my runs to prove my point here. i'm not sure what your marionette footage is trying to prove. >And at her baseline, her Chain Attack is bad. it has the second highest MV of any chain in the game. the main reason why it was bad is because her self crit buff didn't apply to it, making the base MV meaningless, but that isn't true anymore. combined with hugo's def shred, doing double chain nets me more damage than any other stun rotation i could perform. i can only see single chain being better if you're also planning to use ult, since 2 chains + ult basically leaves time for only one EX1 > BA3 loop in the stun as you also acknowledged, the extra DB generation basically guarantees you can ult at least once every stun if you're using one stunner, and once every other stun with a double stun team. my marionette score is also barely worse than yours. i'm still working out some aspects of my ellen team since it's not really TC'd at all, but i suspect given the small margin of error i could probably match your score if i was autistic enough. and yes, i am using shockstar on trigger in this team; lyacon is holding summit.
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>>583733 I'm already there the bunny needs to hurry up though
>>583692 the fact that it sounds like a pop-punky song from when i was 15 its even better i pity belle pickers, wise eating good they have no idea
>>583734 I feel like having to wait for stun windows is a bottleneck. Also, I'm not sure about this, but the extra AoE slashes from C6 Miyabi's Shimotsuki might trigger Shatter, which is a loss in stun uptime.
You still love her, right?
>>583764 she's what got me into this game I'm never abandoning her
>>583764 Yes. Even if her JP voice is bad I still love her.
>>583755 But multiple of these are adults
>>583764 I skipped and haven't done her agent story yet tbh
>>583744 >premium stunner +3s stun >two 1.0 characters from standard banner under autism and exploitable mechanics +30s stun based dawei
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>>583764 Yea of course
>>583764 Nyo I have my soon to be slightly unbricked mechanic wife.
So, uh, what wengine is the better pull if you’re getting both Yuzuha and Alice?
>>583773 simply pull fufufufu instead of a wengine
>>583768 Wise is like 36.
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>>583764 >love more like jealousy
>>583773 If they don't change Alice back into a crit scaler you can just use good old weeping gemini.
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>>583781 Out of 10?
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>>583725 banger
>>583784 Oh boy, another weeping gemini user.
>>583763 >Also, I'm not sure about this, but the extra AoE slashes from C6 Miyabi's Shimotsuki might trigger Shatter, which is a loss in stun uptime. yes this is true my friend who actually has M6 miyabi tried to learn mono-ice because i egged him on for getting worse scores than M0 teams and he realized he'd have to come up with his own rotations because the extra attacks fuck with the shatter procs. pretty funny
>>583795 um bro where is jane's gemini?
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>>583752 >there is no other buff with consistent uptime though? Swing is consistently useful. You just add it into the mix and plan your biggest hit (i.e. your Ultimate) to benefit from it. >it has the second highest MV of any chain in the game Yes, because it's LONG. >the main reason why it was bad is because her self crit buff didn't apply to it That's true, but it's still not great. Ellens MV/second from her burst rotation is high enough to be competitive, and by canceling CA you're prolonging the stun window (effectively and just literally), allowing you to fit more of her lengthy burst into it Again, I wouldn't completely skip CA anymore, but I wouldn't also double-CA either. And yes, I tried - that's not a random Marionette run. >my marionette score is also barely worse than yours Is your Ellen also worse than mine? >and yes, i am using shockstar on trigger in this team; lyacon is holding summit. Skipping Astral in the team that can use Astral is literally the dumbest thing you can possible do, anon.
>>583773 as it stands with alice's changes, she probably is about as reliant on her engine as a typical anomaly (so not much). yuzuha still needs her engine to max out her AM buff though, so that actually became the more attractive choice now if you want to pick one
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Another night where I can't sleep Boy oh boy
ok so alice went from not creeping jane to completely creeping her with this right? they just fulfill the same exact niche, why would i use bibian/jane or bibian/alice ever
>>583793 >>583805 We hate Vivian here.
>>583804 >Is your Ellen also worse than mine? no, my ellen is top 1% on IKN and is probably better than anyone else's in this thread. i'm not claiming to be the best player, but i try to understand the game and do what i think is fun based on my understanding. i actually think double stunner is almost always worse than using a support since ellen benefits more from having a consistent ATK or DMG buff vs getting more burst windows; i just think doing more burst rotations is fun so i chose to build around that. i think all you've done here is proven my intuition on that point correct >Skipping Astral in the team that can use Astral is literally the dumbest thing you can possible do, anon. again, in the team focused around spamming burst windows, getting 1 stack of astral every now and then is not going to be an improvement over getting more of those burst windows in the actual run
>>583819 We LOVE Vivian here.
>>583764 Please give her a good team Dawei, I wouldn't be playing this game if it wasn't for her.
>>583819 but i love vivian ;w; i miss dogshit anon he is not as active as before
>>583816 theoretically she should be one of jane's best partners if you can somehow manage the fact that they both want a lot of field time. alice's kit is saturated with buffs for assault and physical damage and they aren't exclusive to her. jane can also make alice's polarity assaults crit just by existing in the team
>>583821 No we don't. We love balloons.
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>>583764 Yeah shes still fun but her place on my mono Fireteam is in danger, Depending on what Orphie is.
>People keep mistaking me for an orange cat Thiren! A Siamese Thiren! Or a Maine Coon Thiren Are thirens this demarcated what the fuck. If they can't breed interspecies wouldn't most thirens have died out by the 3rd generation???
>>583824 why would you miss that retard? also isn’t he just the same guy in halfchan who spams “fugly ellen”
>>583832 TOPS has millions of sperm samples from every species of thiren from the old civilization to preserve cultural heritage (sow chaos with diversity)
>>583827 >it turns out that Jane is the one who turns into a support for Alice What a twist.
>>583833 idk he shat the thread but i dont go there for a good thread, i have a good thread here i remember laughing my ass off reading his roid rage at fucking 2 am i just cant believe someone can hate a silly game character that much, he is pretty good at acting
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Orphie will make S11 great again
>>583839 I thought his random lore drop of his life story was pretty hilarious too
sovl or SOVLLESS? You decide!
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>>583804 also, this is like the third time i've seen shadow harmony ellen. is it worth actually using on her? i don't particularly want to farm a new set for her given how good my current discs are but i suppose she can easily maintain max stacks on the buff with her charge attack
>>583849 No, it isn't better than existing sets (especially with how saturated her CR can be) people just use it because it's what they've got
>>583656 Cute orange cat
>>583849 People probably have some decent pieces lying around if they farmed for vivian, but don't have anby.
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>>583848 >double stunner S11 >trigger into elec resist sovl >shifu sovlless
>>583846 we also got these sloppas to point at him kek
>>583656 >Entire character gimmick is that she has a complex over being seen as cute. Reminder that you could easily convince Jufufu to fuck you because it's what a cool and mature women would do.
>>583800 I wish devs added mindscape toggles in the game.
>>583562 ether women are so turbo menhera that it somehow loops back into them having strong mental fortitude
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The AI overlords have spoken. Jane is the sub dps to Alice main dps
>>583873 >setting up gnawed for atk% scaling hit AIs have to work a bit i guess KEK
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>>583877 Just build crit alice bwo
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>>583869 Only Z*u and Bibian are mentally ill in the element tho
>>583883 >nicole: broke >astra: Stacy They're all mentally ill.
>>583886 what is the yixuan mental illness doe
>>583873 So basically if you don't have Jane or maybe Burnice she's not worth pulling?
>>583869 >>583883 guys what are you talking about? vivian is completely sane
>>583891 >single 35 year old virgin hag cat owner
>>583895 NOT A KITTY
>>583892 No I'm just shitposting but she works with yuzuha and any other anomaly not named miyabi.
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>>583895 I'M NOT A FUCKING CAT
>>583892 >burnice the dedicated alice shill boss has 40% fire resist, roll bibian or get fucked
bwos just want to share feeling pretty based just hit under 1% in interknot bibis does she love me rn?
>>583873 i've been suspecting if jane gets buffed in 2.1 or 2.2 like people are guessing, they're going to push this mono-phys team hard. right now in HZ one of her tactical extensions has a buff that procs only if a teammateprocs assault, but she currently has no real teammates who can consistently proc assault for her; the best option is running jane/piper which was always a meme. as alice's kit stands right now, she would be the ideal partner for triggering that buff >>583901 she will be fine with miyabi since she can still self-disorder and miyabi herself is broken, but she's probably less than ideal as a yanagi replacement now like people were TCing before
>>583915 AIEEE MY POSITION i have .3 better discs but .5 worse weapon what does that MEAN
>>583918 i use her ball W1? do you have half a bibi ball or something? KEK
>>583891 private one-on-one trainings with your shifu (it's just sex)
>>583920 the website gives a 5 for BiS weapon so he's probably using weeping gemini since it's barely worse than her sig
>>583820 >no, my ellen is top 1% on IKN and is probably better than anyone else's in this thread. i'm not claiming to be the best player Then maybe you should consider a good-faith advice instead of dismissing it? >i think all you've done here is proven my intuition on that point correct By providing you with an example of a run better than yours with a team that has sub-optimal discs (CRIT Rate overcap, Soukaku should be running Astral, Trigger should be running Summit, I just didn't bother to switch the discs, as getting the highest possible score wasn't the point - comparing Ellen with and without the buff was), and Ellen that's not even in the top 50%? Did you really just write off everything with the >"i could probably match" excuse, when you are supposed to be getting high 40k at very least? Keep in mind that run was recorded on literally my first day of playing the buffed Ellen as well. I'm not an Ellen player, I just understand how the game works and I can figure her game plan because of that. Notice how I didn't insist you should stop playing double-stun team because it's suboptimal. Your playstyle preference is your own thing. I'm just telling you that Shockstar isn't really providing you with anything of worth, and it's not helping your playstyle either, because of how little impact get it? it has. ALL of it can be replaced by just holding BA1 with Lycaon when you DA with him. If you are already doing that, extend it to BA2 (technically it's his BA4) like once and you already got like two Ultimates worth of Shockstar effect. >getting 1 stack of astral every now and then Trigger maxes out Astral all on her own. You can double-stack with Sniper Stance finisher (it happens at the very start of the video related), and you have free QAs on EX and Ultimate. Also, you can always get hit. And also, yes, in fact, even one occasional Astral stack here and there is better than running Shockstar on Trigger, which is a waste of time (about 12% Daze increase on her Aftershocks, which are like 25% of the Daze buildup happening with your DPS on the field). Only Qingyi and Lighter can be somewhat justified using it in Shiyu occasionally, for everyone else it's just a wasted set effect. Shockstar loses to Shadow Harmony even if it does improve stun timing, I think I have already mentioned that - because that's something I've had to go through myself.
>>583920 i have an absolutist 0-memeball account so that's with gemini apparently they rate it almost the same
>>583924 yeah W5 gemini is pretty based for her i want the purple sparks tho sorry anon, i whaled your position, you probably have ultra based disks im running 519 AP sou you probably have 429?
Also qing yi deserves a buff before Jane does tbh desu.
>>583917 Team Rodent AKA "LAS RATAS FÍSICAS" will be real.
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>>583849 >is it worth actually using on her? It's at very least side-grade-ish. Basically, 4xHarmony effect is much better than 4xWoodpecker - 12% CRIT Rate and 12% ATK is equal value to 24% of ATK increase and Woodpecker only realistically gives you 18%. 2x set is worse, though, as 15% on Dash Attack is largely inconsequential. It comes down to basically 26% of ATK equivalent vs 24% of ATK equivalent + 15% of Dash Attack DMG. Whether you should run it or not depends on your CRIT Rate, how much in-combat ATK you have, and how often you use Dodge Counters and EX (i.e. do you actually get 18% ATK from Woodpecker consistently). If you aren't running Soukaku/Astra, I would probably default to Woodpecker.
>[2.1] I guess they're committed to the "new" ZZZ. I suppose making more bigger zones every patch would be ok.. Don't you guys think at this point they should honestly just go full open world?
holy shit she's so fucking flat
>>583932 Open world is such a fucking retarded buzzword nowadays. People would call super mario 64 open world if it released nowadays the term means nothing
>>583827 >if you can somehow manage the fact that they both want a lot of field time alice doesnt need much tbh, shes basically vivian except with a stun opener (she needs to do a double chain and charge her basic inbetween) outside of stun u just perfect assist + ex, two times should be enough
>>583932 >>583932 >Don't you guys think at this point they should honestly just go full open world? Nope. This really is just how action games like DMC or God hand used to be.
I'm glad I'm playing as Belle. She's got more personality than Wise, plus it's one more cute anime girl to look at. If I wanted to self insert I'd just imagine myself fucking the girls, not some generic niceguy boring-ass male protag.
>>583926 surprisingly i only have 357 ap and 3k attack so a lot more than the 90 ap diff from the wengine. 13 ap and 18 atk substat rolls according to the site's counter. >>583927 qingyi is meta right now though, she has a 65k team with yixuan.
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>>583942 Pls no lame MC wars.
>>583923 >Then maybe you should consider a good-faith advice instead of dismissing it? i wasn't trying to dismiss you, i am explicitly stating that your TC does not match my own personal results and am trying to reconcile that. >Did you really just write off everything with the >"i could probably match" excuse, when you are supposed to be getting high 40k at very least? yes, because I am aware of multiple personal optimization points i could make in my own runs that I am either inconsistent at performing or simply am not willing to put in the effort to optimize because i still ultimately am playing for fun. you are right, i could be getting much better scores with an ellen as well invested as mine, that doesn't necessarily mean i care to play at the level required to do so. that doesn't really mean i needed to dismiss your run so readily and i think i was being unnecessarily defensive. either way, i'm not trying to be a dick. frankly, i'd be willing to try switching trigger to astral if i had enoug high CR% astral discs for me to not instantly nuke her build by switching her over. i'm also farming for alice and yuzuha right now so i probably won't be farming that set again for a bit, but i will make that my next build priority just for the sake of experimentation. i would actually like to optimize this team, and i think in the context of the discs i have, shockstar is the best i can do right now. if i can match my 77% CR (no sig) trigger on astral i'll move her over to that instead, it will also make her more flexible for other teams
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aren't upgrade based on hollow zero gear? I imagine jane, corn, or billy would be next in line for updates
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>>583932 they already said on stream the eventual goal is to "stitch various new eridu cities together", so at the very least open world with instanced hollow dungeon is likely in the works
>>583948 i thought i saw something about jane being next but it would be weird to do her right when they're trying to sell alice
>>583946 >(2) >multiple hours since first post they're adapting
>>583943 woah you are loaded on attack AP is so busted on her that even your 31 total roll is comparable to my 27 total rolls because i just tunnel vision into AP
>>583952 >talks of ellen buffs as they're trying to sell hugo
Tbf Jane already had her rerun so a buff wouldn't effect sales.
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>>583952 It actually makes sense when you consider the fact that both Jane and Alice benefit from having someone in their team that can also do Assaults. It would be a great chance to earn favor points from the playerbase AND shill the new Agent.
Ellen rererun when? I regret skipping her twice now that she looks fun.
the point of buffs isn't to sell an agent again it's to keep fans of that agent playing longer and buying monthlies/battlepasses/topups
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>>583969 buffing old agents make their reruns sellable and it pleases their fans, it doesnt have to be a mutually exclusive thing
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>>583947 Oh well, you do you. I have provided my input for you to consider. >i'd be willing to try switching trigger to astral if i had enoug high CR% astral discs for me to not instantly nuke her build by switching her over I have switched Trigger from an amazing Shadow Harmony (the one you can see on Ellen) to a pretty garbage Swing Jazz (maybe 15 sub-stats, I had like 60% CRIT Rate and like 80% CRIT Damage) and my score has immediately gone up, and I would only ever activate the effect by using her Ultimate before the Ultimate of my S11. Astral is not just stronger - it has massively higher uptime. What I'm getting at, you can likely run a zero sub-stats Astral and it will still improve your scores. Also, consider who is actually doing the most Daze in your runs the answer is probably Ellen, so who does the second-most. 4xSummit + 2xShockstar is the bigger stun steroid between the two, so you can have it on the bigger stunner. The remaining one could run 4xAstral + 2xShockstar. I'd probably default to Lycaon running Summit, though, because I think his EX is more "free", but who knows.
>>583964 yuzuha is definitely core for both. despite being a support, her build supposedly wants song of phaethon with AM disk 6 so she's supposed to apply assaults too
>>583940 anomaly teams don't get stuns often enough for her chain meter build to matter. you need 6 parries and 6 EXs total to get 300 sword momentum. if you aren't fielding her AT ALL, you're going to probably be building the meter relatively slowly. it's also weird that her ult doesn't build the meter at all currently. i expect the way this damn thing works to change completely again next week anyway, they can't seem to get any identity for this character down beyond the idea that she can trigger assaults independent of the anomaly bar.
okay me being a jane and bibi skipper how do i play new alice
>>583972 yeah the benefit is not mutually exclusive but the thinking from hoyo is obvious, if they viewed buffs as a tool to create more sales on reruns they wouldn't be rerunning caesar in her mediocre state right now
>>583957 >21 vs 7 woah yeah I just went with whatever disks had the most total rolls between ap & attack combined
>>583978 Play her like Jane and mibibi.
>>583978 use her with burnice if you're not fighting the vivian shill boss otherwise use her with piper for the cope mono-phys team
>>583978 i wonder if she'll be any good in solo anomaly teams with yuzuha + seth or double support
>>583979 then presumably they find caesar to be within in an acceptable state and or they don't plan to speedrun buffs but rather save it for an announcable occasion
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>>583974 she wants AM because she has a teamwide anomaly damage buff that scales with AM. still only maxable with her w-engine btw
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I don't get people who says Alice has no identity. She's an anomaly nuker who builds nukes by building assault. It's really not that complicated.
>>583977 yeah outside of stun shes just a jane buffer, making flinch into a dot. flinch also gives +10% dazes, 3 stuns will be quite consistent. u get shit ton of giga buffed assault and disorders if u set up properly. i can easily imagine this team raping the typhon and the new boss.
>>583995 That's very unlike a certain void hunter
>>584000 bratty trips...
>>583979 > if they viewed buffs as a tool to create more sales on reruns they wouldn't be rerunning caesar in her mediocre state right now they reran ellen when everyone was calling her a brick
>>583998 Well with miyabi she gets her nukes from disorder which is pretty easy to game to stack constantly. Building just from anomaly build up seems like it'll be a lot slower.
by 3.0 they'd be looking mad different
>>584004 Alice gets hers from disorders too it's just at a remarkably slow (likely in error) rate
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>>583845 She better be a Fire/Rupture who synergizes incredibly well with Trigger.
>>584003 I hope it means the KING is in for a buff >still no LV gear owari...
Yesterday I was really sleepy and I didn't notice that Qingyi anon gifted me an inter-knot membership (even though I wasn't in the thread), thank you a lot! Yuzuha and Orpheus founds are looking really good, and I can get her summer skin if I buy some cheap bonus packs.
>>583990 might be functional but will probably be a lot worse than V2 because of how much slower her personal meter generation for her nuke is. her ability to self-disorder is a lot less frequent now so you'll probably feel it if you don't have a second anomaly driving disorders. i kinda suspect part of her changes were to kill potential hypercarry teams because they're likely terrified of Y + A becoming anything more than a passing novelty >>583997 yeah you could just use her as a jane buffer for mono-phys specifically. i think for that team it probably doesn't matter which of the 2 of them you field more often since they both mutually benefit each other with their buffs so it might just come down to which one you want to play more. i'm mainly just disappointed they completely killed her hybrid scaling since she was one of the most interesting characters to build and TC in the game and she's just effectively yanagi 2 or vivian 2 now depending on your perspective.
>>583956 Bro, it's a Friday night. I have other stuff going on besides posting here.
>>584014 >2 months of 90x chromosomes a day lucky you
>>584018 erm it's saturday morning 1:40am here at least why not just post 24/7???
good thing about this rework is that she is now less reliant on the sig
Also fuck them for deleting 1/3 of Corin and Billy's gear items just so they could bake the cards in as prisms, there is no way they tested this at 15/15 difficulty
>>584018 you could post less like an inflammatory shitposter if you want people to take you seriously
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>>584023 12:40 here but my point still stands. I'm getting drunk and playing vidya, not checking here constantly. That's for when I'm at work. >>584027 It's just like, my opinion, man. It doesn't have to be taken seriously.
>>584025 unironically I wish people would stop focusing on shiyu and DA maginary powercreep and bitch about the new lost void it's objectively gotten worse since 2.0, it might be the only thing in the game that has. the 3:30 timer is incredibly retarded 12+, I'd be fine with it as an endurance mode but you don't know you're bricked until you show up at the priest and you just cant kill him with corin
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they need to fix her i-frames asap
>>584018 >anon has a life
>>584035 >tfw free win Mibibi button doesn't work in 15/15 anymore because of the 3:30 limit I'm sure there are more viable ways to play besides ult spam, but it doesn't feel very good right now since Shifu is being shilled so hard in the mode
>>584035 the problem is timer combined with mist areas (and non rerollable shops) so some runs you just end up with crap resonia and can't hit the dps check, and you don't really know whether you will or not until you hit the final boss room although i'll admit it was my fault my first run because i was trying for completionism too and picking shitty starting gear just to up the badge count.
i think people are just mad because their crit fanged just got bricked
>>584035 The timer is one thing but these paired bosses coupled with a fucking miasma shield and half-baked gear items that remove the i-frames from Corin's quick assist just screams "we never tested this"
>>584045 It's more than that, people actually thought her original kit was cool. Current one is just like every other non-Miyabi anomaly.
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>>584045 That's why I never prefarm disks/boss upgrade mats until super close to release. Them's some flippity-floppity ass niggas.
>>584054 they haven't changed upgrade mats once so far so prefarming mats is safe. unless you're waiting on final kit to decide whether to roll for the character in the first place
>>584046 there's a world where they brick corin by buffing her in all content with her new dumbass oopsy daisy quickassist
>>584051 well the previous kit was just miyabi duh the new one is yanagi which can also play like vivian if needed i think both are lame as fuck. they never had a vision and were alawys trying to borrow one from existing characters.
>>584045 we have 3x discs right now and then another 8 weeks after that to farm for her. i think everyone will be fine. the issue is that her kit is boring now, and her team options are more restrictive. the only benefit of the change is that she's no longer as severely reliant on her engine, but that's only good if you're poor F2P and weren't going to roll it anyway.
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>Anby, change Alice's entire kit exactly one hour before 2.1 goes live so she's an on-field physical stunner instead.
>>584061 corin alice team dream is BACK
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>>584056 They have. I got fucked over once when I was preparing for Evelyn, they switched her miniboss upgrade mat midway into her beta cycle. Learned my lesson then.
>>584061 now this I could roll for
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>>584060 >. i think everyone will be fine. i farmed this set for the whole of 1.1 1.2 you cant imagine how bricked my ap+atk disk combos are. the best ap roll is +27, not only for fanged but across all my disks in fact i fucking hate AP maxxing, i really wanted a multi-sclaing character so i could just find a cr cd atk ap disk and be done with it, doesnt matter how it rolls.
>>584035 >the 3:30 timer is incredibly retarded 12+ Every agent that has rewards locked behind clearing Lost Void can get all of them rental. In fact, most of them can clear A15 on rental. And for everyone else, you can get there even without Agent Gear.
>>584074 Oh I know, that's why I know it's retarded, because I've done msot of them. It's still a strict downgrade and not everyone is as autistic as me. Build variety is in the bin, you just run ultimate build on everyone. What's the point of a roguelike mode where you cant do funny stuff?
>>584078 i haaate ultimate build. makes it feel like playing Cutscene Impact
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>>584036 >i-frames It pisses me off that Lighter has an i-frame gap between his QA/DA follow-up and EX. You can play around it - you can, in fact, just dodge, but you don't need to 99.9% of the time, so when the 0.1% happens it's incredibly annoying.
>>584074 >Every agent that has rewards locked behind clearing Lost Void can get all of them rental I'm glad I can just shunt everyone in a team with trial Yixuan, otherwise I would count those rewards as lost
>>584074 >Every agent that has rewards locked behind clearing Lost Void can get all of them rental. you don't even need to deal with the timer when farming out the ether-8 clears on all the chars. just beat ether 12 once and you'll have all modifiers unlocked so you can pick the least shitty 8 and avoid the timers and shields.
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>>584078 >What's the point of a roguelike mode where you cant do funny stuff? B-but m-muh challenge... I was so happy to finally have my shit be pushed in again for the first time since Garden 11 with level 50 agents. >>584081 This is very much true on a rewatch, but to be fair, when you're busy trying not to die and somehow still deal damage, having a button that's reliably good and gives you a breather is somewhat of a boon. But on a rewatch it's horrendous indeed.
[BREAKING NEWS] Yuzuha's swimsuit skin menu was updated in current beta.
>>584107 SEEEEEX
>>584107 >>584109 anal rape
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>>584107 >>584109 YuzuhASS for all
Just got home from work. What changed? I'd read the thread but it's 2:15am
>>584107 >>584109 That's a fucking high schooler
>>584107 lol they took the cucking tanuki away her second animation/pose is odd lol
>>584038 I love her little hops omg.
>>584113 Alice turned from Physical Yanagi into Physical Bibian
>>584107 >>584109 How come 14 year olds are so darn sexy?
>>584099 >Garden 11 with level 50 agents. that was a good time
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>>584115 It's obviously a bug lol
>>584113 she turned from physical new unique character to physical yanagi/bibian hybrid actually
>>584117 >>584122 How the fuck does that work? Wasn't she basically phys Miyabi before?
>>584107 YuzuhaGODS, I'm not tired of winning yet!
>>584128 she was phys Alice before, people used comparisons to simplify she did her own shit now she's just close to yanagi, they changed her entire kit and removed all the crit stuff
>>584131 >she was phys Alice before No, anon, she was quite literally a physical Mibibi/Yanagi hybrid.
>>584134 >>584128 Next Beta she's going to be Physical Burnice.
>>584128 She's kinda phys miyabi who can attack off field but need to be on field to build stacks for her nukes.
Goddamn i might get her wengine just for the effects.
>>584134 where is the 45% def shred debuff and equal stat weight of critrate/critdmg/AP on yanagi and miyabi and don't tell me miyabi wants ap cause that's cap she was unique just cause some parts of her kit were similar did not change that
>The thiren got nerfed >the Non-thiren got special treatment
>>584107 >>584109 To think I 'almost'' broke and spent my mono on Shifu's. Glad I held off. Still salty Lying Lame seems to have made up the Mibibi skin. That's what I really wanted.
>>584149 As it should be.
Do you guys think the raccoon stays off for the swimsuit skin? It’s still there on the default skin
>>584159 I'm worried it's just a bug and it'll be back before the final update. Hope it stays based though.
>>584109 >they removed her spats Nice
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>>584107 >>584109 They actually removed the racoon? My urge to M6 her just came back.
>>584159 >>584162 It's 100% a bug. She's holding an invisible raccoon in her second pose.
>>584165 it could just be an unfinished animation
>>584166 Yes, of a missing raccoon. I'm just saying this now because I can just see you retards go "AIEEEEEEEE CENSORSHIP" when it gets fixed from something clearly unintended.
>>584145 >45% def shred debuff She never had it though? She had 25% DEF Shred and 20 FLAT DEF reduction. >and equal stat weight of critrate/critdmg/AP on yanagi and miyabi Yes you have CRIT on Miyabi and AP on Yanagi. Alice was the mix of the two. Also, it's almost guaranteed to not be perfectly balanced, so ultimately one would end up as a priority and the other one would be a "good to have" (like AP on Miyabi indeed - you wouldn't build it, but you wouldn't say "no" to AP that you happen to get for free). Also also, Being CRIT Rate% + AP is literally nothing new when compared to Miyabi. Miyabi is CRIT Rate + DMG. Alice is CRIT Rate + AP. One sub-stat difference in priorities does not fundamentally change how they play. She didn't have "some parts of her kit" be similar. She was about 90% copy-paste of Mibibi and Yanagi's kits.
>>584165 >>584166 yeah her ult in the swimsuit skin used to have no arm but they fixed that, so it’s possible they just need to make a new pose and iirc her bottoms used to be less revealing than that
>>584168 The spats are very clearly gone, though, so the definitely removed some stuff on purpose.
>>584145 > miyabi wants ap cause that's cap i tested cdmg vs ap slot 4 on the latest bringer... the result was quite surprising. but not relevant, as atk% clears both since it works for both disorder and her normal scalings.
>>584107 >>584109 Thank god I wasn't the only one that noticed that the textures/shading on her ass were behaving weird
>>584169 What the hell is flat def reduction?
>>584107 >>584109 >they removed the racoon
>>583764 >ERE >sloppa Do you?
>>584169 Her w-engine used to give % def shred not flat, they changed it between v.1 and v.2. That's probably what he was referring to.
>>584169 Alice had crit dmg on her ball though bro, she was poised to be crit-rate + ap + crit dmg, calcfags were arguing for critdmg disc 4 versus ap disc 4, come on. Also you're ignoring the mark part that they had already gutted, but that was long gone I guess. >One sub-stat difference in priorities does not fundamentally change how they play we're going to have to disagree there bro, it changes drastically what her teams would've looked like and also rotations depending on your team setup. astra nicole could've been fun with her, yuzuha nicole too, now she's just stack AP and anomalyslop it up. which could still be fun, I'm still rolling, but she is objectively less unique than when she first was revealed.
Pounding Yuzuha's pussy behind a conveniently shaped rock formation on the beach
I know it's asking for too much, but man I wish she were throwing a water balloon here instead of a bomb
Tldr on Alice's new kit? Is Jane safe?
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Good morning
Ummmmm devs?
>>584186 >I know it's asking for too much It isn't at all
>>584196 We fuck high schoolers here sir
>>584186 I wouldn't mind firecrackers/fireworks.
>>584190 jane has benefitted the most but alice herself has also gotten stronger
>>584145 Also, I wouldn't just write off the crit completely. First, her current Core/AA are clearly unfinished (you need 50 Assaults or Disorders to max out her bar, good luck doing that), so first wait for those to update before jumping to any conclusions. Second, the main reason you should build CRIT on Mibibi isn't the silly Anomaly Buildup Rate increase you get from that. It's nice to have, sure, but the reason to have it are the fuckhuge multipliers she has on Shimotsuki. Alice's kit still has not-Shimotsuki and Ultimate with fuckhuge multipliers. And her kit currently suggests that she must use it to even begin doing her new not-ablooms. Unless the devs change that, CRIT will remain a viable, if not preferred, way of scaling her damage, it's just unlike Miyabi she doesn't have a mechanics to disjoin her from AP (i.e. Frostburn - break). So in fact, she was changed to make building her more unique and less railroaded, and you are claiming the literal opposite of that. >>584175 What do you think? It's DEF reduction that is flat, not percentage-based. Same as like there is PEN Ratio and flat PEN. >>584178 >give % def shred Well, it was flat in 2.1.2, I don't really remember what it was in 2.1.1, so maybe.
>>584196 this is problematic
Wait what happened? Please tell me Yuzuha is till what she was, I'm skipping Alice anyway. Is she still a generic support but has slightly more for Anomaly? I'm only seeing Alice discussion.
>>584205 I hope you're right about the multipliers but i'm not holding my breath considering the wengine change, she would be the first anomaly (miyabi is her own class essentially) to actually do that (except burnice crit cope lol) I will admit i'm slightly salty because i had a god set of fanged metal for her i didn't even need to farm i just had lying around >>584215 yuzuha's the same she even got slightly buffed
>>584207 I have to agree I might have to consider rolling and buying now Problematic, indeed
>>584205 You're just making shit up. Alice's engine gave attack v1 and %def shred v2. Flat def shred isn't even a thing. That's just flat pen.
>>584215 yuzuha is now m1>w1 like every other support
>>584182 >Alice had crit dmg on her ball though But that literally doesn't matter? It's just a sub-stat. All it means your CRIT DMG is less saturated now so you're more justified to run CRIT DMG% on your #4 when before you might've wanted to run AP instead. Your "build" isn't defined by your W-Engine and 10 sub-stats - "build" begins closer to 30 sub-stats, when you get to actually make choices instead of having your W-Engine do everything for you. >calcfags Were all like one telling you to run Shockstar on Trigger just to be contrarian. Try using your head sometimes instead of replacing your opinion with the opinions of random CCs. Why are you even arguing about """building""" her when it turns out you never did and are just parroting someone else's opinion anyway? >we're going to have to disagree there bro, it changes drastically what her teams would've looked like Yeah, nah. Refer to damage multipliers. You won't start running Seth on her, and you weren't going to before. You won't stop running Yuzuha on her either. Astra will still be amazing on her, etc.
>>584196 Did they improve Alice's skin too? I couldn't really tell based on the new gameplay footage. https://streamable.com/g3owhm
>>584218 >>584221 Ok good, as long as she can be used everywhere and they didn't change her to strictly buff Anomaly/Alice. I need my Kot support
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>>584220 >You're just making shit up. Alice's engine gave attack v1 and %def shred v2. It's not my fault you weren't paying attention. Alice W-Engine didn't give DEF% Shred in 2.1.2 There was no literally no % symbol next to it. >Flat def shred isn't even a thing. That's just flat pen. PEN is applied to your damage, DEF is applied to the enemy. There is such thing as Flat DEF, it's even in the damage formula. If it can be positive it can be negative. The easy answer is the W-Engine was never finished anyway, but you are still a retard who is arguing about things he 1) doesn't understand and 2) never bothered to check.
>>584220 It was attack first, then def% shred, then there was a mid beta update (last update) where they took the % off. Flat def shred and flat pen are effectively the same shit.
>>584222 Uhh she definitely wants different types of teams now bro, before you might’ve been able to astra/nicole hypercarry (still can but it’s less justifiable) or use her as a miyabi support or use her as a yanagi support now she’s just another anomaly and fulfills a similar role to jane in accounts (though the jane/alice team seems to be alive still so that’s cool)
This game is pure ass
>>584236 >>584238 You guys are stupid if you think this wasn't a mistake.
For some reason this ugly thing is extremely expensive in genshin, there's no way the summer outfits are going to be more expensive than Astra and Yi Xuan's outfits right? They are already S-Rank skins
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>>584225 >Kot support Astra is up right now. She's literally made for attackers. >>584243 It probably was, but I'll never know since they killed it dead.
>>584246 Imagine getting 20 flat pen from your limited engine. Wow.
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>>584244 >Popcorn Funk on the popcorn agent Based
>>584246 They would not of had a premium w-engines effect be a whopping 20 flat def shred lmfao I'm done meltying about it, it is what it is, that guy doesn't understand what I'm getting at anyway, alice is still the cutest 2.X girl and lazy leakers need to get off their ass and upload gameplay
This retard always being in the corner makes me happy
>>584257 I've been using that pic as my mascot too.
>>584243 To make a mistake you have to touch it. It being touched means it was changed. Dismissing that just because it fits your narrative after you claimed the statement itself was a lie - that's what actually stupid. >>584239 >before you might’ve been able to astra/nicole hypercarry So why exactly wouldn't one of Yanagi's BiS teams worth with her again? Simply given she also uses AP but also has Attack-tier multipliers, so CRIT isn't as wasted on her? >or use her as a miyabi support But you still can? She's still an anomaly and she still has accelerated anomaly buildup. If Burnice works with Miyabi, there's no reason Alice won't. >or use her as a yanagi support You mean Mibibi replacement? You still can, because she still scales with Disorders. >and fulfills a similar role to jane How so? Simply because he improves any Assault? I'm not seeing it, but even then, that just means her builds were expanded, weren't they?
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refining my limited w engine for 3 more flat def lets fucking gooo
>>584266 The mistake was the negative sign, not the percent sign.
>>584254 Leifa apparently did a twitch stream during V1 where he played Yuzuha and Alice, but didn't post any videos. Maybe you could watch a VoD? Considering we're getting less coverage than usual I'm assooooooming CCs were told in advance she would change alot. The only youtuber I've seen posting gameplay is https://www.youtube.com/@rennhonkai and he's fucking shit at the game so I can't glean much from her kit.
>>584268 kek I appreciate the s11 autist in these threads but him not seeing that was an obvious mistake and tripling down on it is a good reminder of why he’s, indeed, an autist
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>>584246 My Astra is 99% hogged by my Soukaku DPS, I need Astra 2.0
>>584272 I tried looking for the vods and he took them all down awhile ago thanks for that other guy though he does seem like a shitter but atleast it's something, I'll be watching when he slops out the new alice changes
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At least Yuzuha can make my Jane better
>>584283 Ah I see. You should probably give Astra to Kot and Yuzuha to Soukaku then. Kot benefits bigly from quick assists/chains and Soukaku can take advantage of the more frequent freezes/energy.
Imagine typing paragraphs about metafaggotry when hoyo’s guaranteed to make their team do 50k on their boss anyway
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Is Belion even worth the dennies for the full Yunkui team since nothing else works, or do I just run Snap?
>>584311 Using faction bangboos raises your account’s sovl meter by 100% meaning you will win more coinflips and crit more in battle so yes
>>584311 anything is better than snap
We've gotten a few agents with silly animations recently so I've been meaning to ask, do you want Billy's alt to be comedyKINO or edgeKINO? Feels like it could go either way.
>>584326 90% edge, 10% comedy to remind us that the old Billy is still in there.
>>584326 comedy, but then when shit happens, edgekino
>>584326 I just want it to be Billy, don’t really want them to change his character too much, he’s already a good balance of both, just make him meet the starlight knight actor and the actor gives him a speech to stop holding back Or have monica give him the monicussy
>>584220 Flat shred is a thing, but that guy is playing semantics if he thinks they didn't intend it to be just DEF% like the rest of her kit (at the time)
>another character that unbricks jane >i wont roll cuz not hag ACK
>>584348 Every character in this game is 25.
>>584354 certified hags
>>584354 How dare you
>>584348 Bro there’s a hag RIGHT NOW who does that rerunning
>>584357 well whats the team then
>>583547 Will alice work with piper or should i stick to mibby and piper for now
Just what is it about Sweety that makes everyone drool over her?
>>584362 Jane astra nicole like everyone else
>>584365 i literally cant build ANYONE rn i need to grind events and stuff
>>584366 Well then don’t complain about jane being bricked DUMMYHEAD you not even 60 yet
>>584366 Also if you have trigger wengine and fine with playing s*th jane/seth/trigger isn’t bad
>>584368 im only 25? >>584369 i do have wifengine but yeah im not building a dude when i cant even build my hags
>>584372 Wait damn ur level 25 with those agents and a wengine? So you’ve been playing since eve banner but not actually just rolling? Respect the dedication lol
>>584375 no im level 52, but i am 25 not 60 i bought a starter Eve account halfway through trigger banner, just been buisy with uni so havent progressed much
>>584107 Ok now I'm pulling her and her skin
>>584364 I'm sorry. You'll understand soon.
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Holy fuck her ass is so fat, I was planning on skipping, but I've got a huge stash and just barely enough paid currency to buy the skin. At last I understand the 16+ rating, but its a shame Nicole had to die for us to get this.
>>584381 What makes it hot isn’t that her ass is fat, it’s not, it’s that she is BRAZENLY showing it off like a slut as well as making her b cups look like c cups I hope she lusts over us in story
>>584377 wtf is this luck lmfao
>>584383 You're right, her presenting it is what makes it so great. I was just too flashbanged by something resembling panties in a Hoyogame, and the way her ass looks to realize it.
Yuzuha will look great pregnant
>>584390 I still give it like 50/50 chance they put the raccoon back but hopefully chinks are enticed with her and melty so hard they keep it kek
>>584390 >>584397 You guys are setting yourself up for disappointment, she flashing it for one second and then the raccoon hiding it is part of the mesugaki appeal, they won't remove the fucking thing.
>>584405 It’s an absolute win either way, either they keep it and my dick is pleasantly surprised or they don’t and she’s still a teasing slut It’s all about PMA
>>584405 Honestly it wouldn't be the end of the world, I use mods anyway, but the fact that she has such a sexy outfit canonically just adds a lot to her. I bought the Ellen skin even though there's mods that make it free, and skipped the other two paid skins because I didn't like them more than the base outfit.
>>584407 >>584408 They made the one piece swimsuit shorter, it's the first time hoyo ever did this, it's an insane win.
>>584410 Now we just need slightly less fabric on alice’s skin
>>584387 call it my infinite salt generator >>584410 it looks the same
ok so how do we actually psyop the devs into actually removing the racoon from the menu animations?
>>584417 we need an equally powerful schizo to the anti bunnysuit guy to step in
>>584417 Induce a chink melty
>>584417 Either what the other anons said, or we claim the racoon is Taiwanese
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>>584416 The dress is the same, the swimsuit isn't. It's the entire reason we can see her butt cheeks now. Old and new:
>>584417 Even if they add it back there will be a mod to remove it within days of the patch. Although I hope they keep it removed since it sets good precedence for the future.
The other gachas are laughing at us as the gooner game…
Orpheus menu animation where you can see full cheeks for one second before magus gets mad a t you and hides them
>>584405 Even if they add the Racoon back we still won by them making the bottom of the suit skimpier and more lewd.
>>584432 Anon that's like 98% of all gacha.
>>584432 >(32)
>>584438 The shitposters are sleeper agents… whos to say you’re not one of them?!?!?
>>584438 >no jokes
>>584439 I use half-chan for all my shitposting needs
Hot take, Alice improved. Prior to the current beta she was Miyabi but also Yanagi in a way that prevented her from doing real damage with either style. Her anomaly buildup was dependant on her crit rate and she wanted crit damage for her shimotsuki's but needed anomaly mastery and proficiency for her self anomaly. The only useful part of her kit were the sources of defence down.
i injured my gooning hand today while golfing...
>>584444 bro your onahole?
>>584441 You having 32 posts was the joke, come on...
the gooner game in question
>>584445 onahole?
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I MUST RESIST THE MARKETING
alice getting nerfed live 1.5 -> 1.2 ap per each am over 140 phys dot 6% -> 2.5% disorder bonus 43% -> 18%
Just woke up and read the Alice changes, I'm so glad I didn't pre-farm her, holy fucking kek
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I need to fuck Fufu
>>584452 Y-yeah bro we all have onaholes here right? This is an anonymous imageboard for a gooner game after all haha
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>>584460 It's en route to be delivered in about 4 days.
>>584424 >>584410 >Added belly button indentation this goddamn teasing BRAT
>>584468 Shenhe was robbed
>>584460 Onas are a blessing its just a bummer that if you live anywhere but the main countries in the EU you gotta sell a kidney to get one
>stalking cairin home after she closes up shop >see her walking faster and getting restless >grab her into a shady dark alley in waifei >rape her vulnerable little fragile thiren body >finish inside and leave her lying in the alleyway
So what do we think?
>>584477 Corin got rapecreeped...
>>584485 >hair down corn No i’m still raping her gently
>>584483 >So what do we think? We won. I don't just think it, I know it.
>>584011 her anomaly mastery was always super low, she has actually been buffed now so I think it's by design, calling them nukes is wrong as her scaling for these attacks has always been incredibly low
>>584492 I don’t usually go for zhu but if she wants to be raped too I can clear a time in my schedule
>>584483 I'm not thinking
New player here Rate my woman
>>584492 Zhu Yuan wouldn't care about Cairin getting raped.

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end of thread qingyi dump
>>584498 >2.95 MB 4080×3072 zigga please
>>584499 this is why its so easy to get away with raping thirens...
>>584500 boring
>>584417 But I like the racoon, they should have removed the hip cover and given her a cut out instead of removing the racoon
>>584506 According to the isekais usually they’re the ones making us suck cock so it’s only fair they get raped in return
alice caesar yuzuha
>>584483 Waterkuma was unironically fired. They look cool but they look off-model.
>>584516 That swimsuit is something he would make.
>>584513 It's not the fault of thiggers that Chinky posters are addicted to knotted cock
>>584500 Hazeker really improved a lot over the years, I'm glad that we share the same taste and love leotards.
>>584523 >copypastes the same stripper heels on every char game's gone
>>584516 it looks like kakage or someshit idk i feel like i recognize the style but cant pinpoint it exactly. well this is definitely not waterkuma art (obviously)
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>>584527 I almost never look at the shoes since I'm hard focused on the ass, but he did make cool open-paw heels for Pulchra.
>>584483 just realized Wise has shoujou manga hands
>>584516 people said the same shit back in 1.6 His artstyle is just changing over time you could see it by comparing base Anby to the current one
>>584532 GAWD DAMN Imagine the footjob
Next thread yuzuha thread
>>584536 It even still has pointless labeling on it >swimsuit, label it with "sea" because that's where you use it
>>584516 I know this is a shitpost but he doesn't draw literally every piece of art, right? He's just the designer or something?
>>584540 It's Sea because she's a demon to Sea men.
>>584547 South East Asian men?
>>584540 He meant to write Sex but he still doesn’t have his alphabet right
>>584547 Those are called Sirens
>>584543 i mean the last time he actually drew something himself was like... 1.0
>>584543 Unless every single Agent, NPC and enemy is designed by Waterkuma, then he might as well be fired.
>>584552 When and where does she spawn? Haven't met her yet.
>>584548 >>584551 I wanted you guys to make the logical jump to semen demon, but I guess my joke was too retarded.
>>584561 just explore waifei at night, so far ive seen her spawn at the areas behind the pawnshop
>>584566 I knew that was what you wanted but I played dumb
>>584536 his art that is posted on his socials still looks like his usual style, i think gacha games are just like this they cant overwork one guy drawing everything, they probably have artist trained to emulate his style or shading at least to keep consistancy
Wtf is this?


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