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/zzz/ - Zenless Zone Zero General Anonymous 06/28/2025 (Sat) 10:21:24 Id: d2733d No. 616535
Previous: >>612924 >News Agent Record | Alice Thymefield https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39231485 Agent Record | Ukinami Yuzuha https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39218785 Season 2 Special TVCM https://youtu.be/bLEL0nU0LxI Version 2.0 "Where Clouds Embrace the Dawn" Special Program https://youtu.be/ACjLWP_zviU >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo https://youtu.be/ftIfHp2h7eg (EN) https://youtu.be/Oz3CTkv8AKo (JP) https://youtu.be/DDl9QwUtLGg (EN) https://youtu.be/PzvF1WBLibs (JP) https://youtu.be/B8qkTG12DJU (EN) https://youtu.be/7VcpoJRa4kM (JP) https://youtu.be/dJe0zuy7_6s (EN) https://youtu.be/1iHQwA2kLQc (JP) >Upcoming Events for 2.0 https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/156753 Festival Channel 06/06 - 07/16 Failume Gift 06/06 - 07/15 Soul of Steel: Golden Bond 06/06 - 07/07 Golden Proxy Awards Annual Ceremony 06/06 - 06/23 Gravitational Attraction 06/08 - 07/14 Holographic Onslaught Arena 06/13 - 06/30 Special Cleanup - Triple Bounty 06/18 - 06/23 Tiger's Billowing Roar 06/25 - 07/14 En-Normous Surprise 06/25 - 07/15 Operation Yum 06/28 - 07/14 Combat Training - Triple Bounty 07/04 - 07/09 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online) https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption ZENLESSGIFT ZZZ2NDSEASON ZZZ20NEWSEASON ABZVGEWK3O >Resources and useful links https://rentry.org/zzzlinks https://rentry.org/ZZZ-drawpile https://rentry.org/ZZZFriends
[Expand Post]>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
So what did everyone redeem the free standard agent and w-engine on? I still haven't decided what to use it on yet...
Trigger!
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ID gets a finisher after my goon sesh
all u guys really just bundle up at the end of a thread ready to blow your little ritual posts huh.... well I'M SICK OF IT! I better see (2)'s out of all of yous
>>616537 Brimstone for Eve, probably pick up S11 too if I dont get her with the monthly reels
>>616548 just getting my (1) out of the way
do yall think the 1.9 tdi is as worshipped in the outer ring as it is in real life
>>616497 would you rather they be couped up in class, learning useless retarded shit and not socializing at all?
sneedsaar
>>616551 oh yeah u stinky robot well I'm a (2) now!!!!! bet you don't have an image for THAT!!!!!
Any chars have b-day today?
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>>616537 On Neko of course. I got Hellfire Gears for Fufu. Kot Squad is just about ready to go once I get Fufu finished.
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no more qingyi id for me... *sobs*
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>>616537 Lycaon and Brimstone
>>616561 You got an upgrade
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Should I keep going or save for Yuzuha? It's on a 50/50
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I remember when Pan Piano was pure...
Who should be our next full thiren sexo girl? surely they don't just make another cat girl right.....
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Fufu is so lucky
Ideas on how to make disks less of a chore: -Make only S rank / gold master copy / plating / dennies, no A rank disks at all -Get rid of A and B rank disks -setting to roll on the first level of disks
>>616569 its a man
I am happy my Lighter is top 2 %, just need a few better discs but man. It feels great. Gotta work on Hugo, and Pulchra next. >>616568 Pull till you get an S Pulchra bro, if she doesn't pick up, save for Yuzuha if that's who you really want since she'll be a guarantee.
>>616563 i hate old people
I got 2 instead of 1 this time
>>616537 Just one more and i have the M3 name card
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>>616584 Chinky is likely much older than Yanagi
>>616587 What does nekomata smell like
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>>616586 Put the cunning Hares on corruption complex and put Koleda with S11
Fixed
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-pYG2iEfGY >>616590 Even discounting her physical body's age, Chinky has been 'awake' for at least 50+ years since she knew Howl's owner (the newspaper grandma in Lumina) when she was a little girl
>>616596 what a hag
>>616583 Damn nice, I can't seem to get a good Disc 4
>>616537 Kot and Hellfire Gears
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>>616537 Lycaon because I find it amusing how often I lose 50/50 to him (M4 before I selected him) so I picked another copy to get close to his M6. Also, I already have M1 Rina and M1 Koleda and the only other standard S rank that I don't have is Grace who I'm likely not gonna ever use since I have Yanagi. Fusion Compiler because I don't have a single S rank anomaly engine (not counting Miyabi's one) and I have every other engine except kot's one.
>>616593 my cunning hares are unbuilt lol, the 6 agents in that screenshot are the only ones with half-decent discs and engines
>>616590 >>616596 i love old people now
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Oni
>>616574 Fufillions of pictures must be uploaded.
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>>616568 Go for it but stop if you lose your 50 50.
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>>616613 Cute!
>>616613 The animation is nice.
>>616624 what type of porn books is fufu degenerately gooning to...
>>616629 Do the story
>>616568 depends on who you really want and how many tapes you have if you win the 50/50 then yuzuha will be 50/50 but if you lose then yuzuha is guaranteed. If you can afford the former then I dont see why you shouldn't make an attempt
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The Phon... didn't linged....skipping Fufu...
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>do the demos >Corin M0 demo Damn I forgot how little damage M0 A ranks do
>>616537 M3 S11 and Brimstone
>>616592 Depends on where you put your nose. Her hair is probably very pleasant like the fur of cats. Down there it might be a little fishy.. But both will make you go crazy
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>>616575 Technically the next one will be Zhao who is a rabbit and probably the first beast thiren limited rank S, and I feel like she will come in 2.3. I also think that she and Seed will be the characters of 2.3 (A patch focused on non-human characters) and will be before the character who is the Void Hunter.
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>>616661 why are real women kinda ugly
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>>616662 Thank god 2D exist
>>616666 There are multiple things about this post I don't like.
>>616666 still better than 3dpd dont >> me
rolling for chinky
>>616685 close enough
>>616601 Wish I had a God disc or him on dupe 6 like you got lol, I actually rolled my SSS and s trying for Pulchra's. How different does his M6 feel on him?
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>>616575 >dofus take me back...
>>616698 No... I just wasted my stash...
any fellow whales know how long it takes for your paypal to get validated after being locked for suspicious behaviour? Those motherfuckers are taking forever
>>616698 >reverse image search >there's no corresponding fanart Where did you get this?
>>616706 I've seen the fanart before, it's definitely fake. Let me see if I can dig it up.
>>616698 I've seen enough CN fanarts like this for fake Genshin event pages to know better
>>616705 I do all my purchases on PS5 cause it's cheaper
>>616695 Stuns are much faster and you can bring him in with a full meter after just 1 EX and a couple basics, his personal damage helps too but the biggest thing is 5 additional seconds of stun and that's on m1, his m4 also helps with energy regen
>>616698 Idols disinfo making Russian troll farms look like a big fucking joke these days.
>>616705 I had that happens once and it took them about a day
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>>616705 Can't you just call them and clear it immediately?
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>>616719 You win this time
>>616737 they're closed until monday
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>>616745 FOURSOME NOW
>>616637 Meatbuns shifu >>>> Stalking menhera It was the logical choice
>>616537 C1 Harin and Fusion compiler. By Murphy's law I got a second one from standard banner two weeks later, may have picked Koledaball for variety if I knew
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>>616753 I've lost Evelyn flip to S11, Yanagi flip to Grace, Trigger flip to Koleda, did a 10 pull for Corin dupes during Flopty's banner, got Flopty and the next pull after that was Koleda.
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>>616745 >Sanza is relevant Idols soon
>>616768 >oh hey that's nice art let me check out the rest of... >all the girls are drawn with man faces Western artists, man.
>>616714 Yeah, the energy regen and the m1 felt huge to him, but I love spamming his morale stuff. Really sucks I gotta wait till next go round to try and boost him and Hugo, but it is what it is, sounds like a lot of fun!
>>616537 An OLDER WOMAN to compliment my existing OLDER WOMAN and the rerunning OLDER WOMAN >>616575 I want a bat/crow eventually, a harpy would be acceptable too
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LFbkYkbIw I care about all these characters so much man GOD I LOVE ZZZ
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>>616777 Yeah, that's why people only post their back view content
>>616537 I rolled a Koleda and already had her ball so I busted both on Rina. I know Lycaon is the best one I don't have but I don't want him, I will use tiny sparkplug instead of him.
>controller button doesn't pop back up right anymore after a few months of use >the perma-pressed button starts fucking up interactions and combat contollerbros, what kind of controller are you using? I usually just buy a cheap one off temu whenever these break but I'm willing to shell out a little extra for something with more lasting power
>>616537 S11 and Brimstone I also took S11 for my free char @ 300 pull at the same time.
>>616778 You can also use him as a proper dps once he's m6 if you like doing that
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>>616537 went for m5 koleda and brimstone. Of course i proceeded to lose 2 50's on fufu to koleda afterwards.
>>616806 It's what you DESERVE for cheating on Belobog
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>>616800 Flydigi Apex 4. It's very good, can recommend. Easy to disassemble as well, when compared to Xbox Elite. Had to disassemble it not because something was wrong with it but because I spilled Dr Pepper on it. Apex specifically is excessive. I was told that Vader is just as good and premium as Apex, just has less pointless features like LED and shit. The ones before it are also about as good functionally, just might use marginally cheaper materials.
>>616800 My main controller for PC gaming is an 8BitDo Pro 2, very cheap and hasn't failed me once in years
>>616800 my prehistoric xbox 360 controller has some drift but other than that still works great
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Goals from yesterday (1/2) and bonus clip:
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Goals from yesterday (2/2):
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God damn that was a pain in the ass trying to meet her min requirements without her sig. Losing Impact disk 6 isnt that big of a deal is it?
>>616745 Oh shit the rocker chick is finally relevant.
>>616823 Impact disc 6 is more reliable, but if you know you don't get an extra stun from it swap to ATK%, just level a disc for both cases
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>>616823 I was confused why we had the same impact despite me having Impact Disc 6 until I realized Hellfire Gears gives impact
Alright so I finally got a good disk 2 after using my tuners to make sure I get an ATK mainstat
Yuzuha is for anal rape
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oh nice, enka is back up
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My Fufu is numba 1!
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>>616853 hey, dont forget to share!
DA was kinda nasty this time around
>>616857 Kek. My build could be better so I did expect her to be beaten quickly. I'm still happy with 2nd for now.
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Name a good reason I have to click on each disk and then click the trash icon instead of having a select all or a hotkey
>>616871 this shit is so ass
>>616877 shifu is so indecent
>>616879 Just dismantle them at Bardic needle like a normal person
>>616879 >Name a good reason your retarded
>>616883 You can open this menu from inventory. That was a real skill issue moment.
>>616879 >He doesn't mark the trash disks on the reward page to save time Have fun lol
>>616879 Uh bro you're joking right? Surely you know we have a multiple select feature already?
>>616886 Yes you can, but you can't do multiple selection anywhere outside of bardic needle
>>616886 Show me how to mark multiple disks as trash in the inventory without going to bardic needle.
>>616892 Did you never try clicking quick select or something?
>>616892 >Click Dismantle >Click Quick Select
>>616887 I only mark discs for trash when I upgrade them so they get front loaded, seems like an unnecessary extra step otherwise
Bro....
>>616897 You can only select already marked as trash disks. I'm saying, to mark them as trash, how would you do it
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>>616897 >>616898 >>616889 >>616886 No, he's right, you can't mark multiple discs as trash all at once, even if you select all, I never tried since I mark them as I get them from Scott but you have to do each and every manually, you can only mass-dismantle with this option. Never noticed this oversight, we're up for another QoL update
>>616924 why would you ever want to mass mark them as trash if you are going to dismantle them anyways?
>>616927 Because you can only quick select in the dismantle menu in inventory if they're marked as trash or A rank or below. So if they're bad S ranks you have to mark them as trash to quick select them for dismantle
>>616924 OK but what's the point of marking them trash?
Anyone else think their outfits are similar?
Few weeks ago I liked, shared and followed one cute Anby cosplayer in twitter, seeing me liked and interacted positively with her content, twitter algorithm push more "similar" posts and accounts to me. Of course I liked them all, but then one day I realized that one of them is an account that specialized in posting AI cosplay photo, stated in bio. Curious by this I checked all my previously followed ZZZ cosplayer accounts and realized ALL OF THEM ARE AI. I can't tell the difference anymore bro, if they didn't tell me front and center I will never noticed it. Anyway, That means there's nothing wrong with sexually attracted to Qingyi. Bot, AI, Construct? That doesn't really matter if you can't tell the difference with real women anymore.
>>616929 Have you tried clicking the button I showed?
>>616929 You really just made me boot up the game, roll some discs, go to my bag and dismantle them to make sure I wasn't the retarded one. I'm being trolled at 9AM on a Saturday wtf
>>616931 Marking trash S-rank disks on the reward page, saves you having to suffer as you go through 100+ disks to see which ones should be recycled after a while. Instead you just go to Bardic and click "recycle discarded disks" and boom, suffering is gone
>>616931 You can recycle all trash in Bardic Needle.
>>616939 I just lock the ones I don't want dismantled and let the quick select handle the rest
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>>616939 Or instead of wasting time marking discs as trash, you can just lock the ones you want to keep and use the "S rank and below" option in quick select.
>>616944 pretty much what the devs intended and/or expect most people to do.
>>616938 Anon for fucks sake get a coffee before posting, you dismantled the discs not marked them as trash
>>616944 I only lock the ones I consider good. Trash is for trash. Non-marked can still have potential uses, I just don't consider them to be optimal. Like, I can have a bunch of ATK% + AP discs from a set an Anomaly might run. I won't lock them because they are still worthless unless I actually land decent sub-stats on them, but I won't trash them either, because they could be good if the sub-stats land correctly. And I don't fish for upgrades on every possible disc, unless I'm building my S11.
>>616942 >>616944 >They probably get rid of decent disks that a new agent with unique scaling could use in the future Also for me, disk locking is reserved for lvl 15 disks that I swap out depending on the occasion. I don't want to have like 50+ locked disks
I love this artist Qingyi Its wak__kun in twitter
>>616952 This smug brat needs correction.
Sometimes, I wanna fuck Chinatsu and spend all night cuddling with her. Other times, I wanna do so with Rokudo. Then, there are some days of the week where all I desire to do, is to plap Yutanes little robotic ass. Thats the beauty of men sexual nature; polygamy. I love all my girls, and I love each one for different reasons.
>>616869 Does she get enough crit for this to work? I was kinda worried about this set actually on Pulchra, it says they need 50% crit or more but does that activate with in combat buffs or does it have to be on the stat sheet prior.
This feels like cheating since I'm not running 2p impact anymore. Oh well.
>>616952 that's the fucking point, if you are going to mark them as trash and then click discard, might as well dismantle them inmediately.
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I love this game
>>616967 We should have spider girls. And while we're at that, we should have snake girls as well. And while we're at that as well, we should have Juri Han from Street Fighter series.
>>616879 >63 disks You could have cleaned those up in the time it took you to take a screenshot, type that out and post here. Go to the Bardic Needle dismantling screen, trash the irredeemable disks with useless subs, put a few rolls in those that look promising, trash the failures and lock the good disks. Use the scraps for a set of your choice and repeat the above. This is part of my daily ZZZ routine and it takes a minute at worst.
>>616954 >They probably get rid of decent disks that a new agent with unique scaling could use in the future I need crafting mats now not 6 months in the future, if it's a good disc I keep it if it's got DEF + HP it's getting dismantled, and if you level a disc you have to designate it trash or click it anyway locking a already leveled disc is just an extra safety measure, there is literally zero reason to mark a lvl 0 disc as trash other than just wasting your own time
>>616971 Ok bwo, just don't come crying to us when you accidentally dismantled a lvl 0 disk with: Crit Rate Crit Dmg Atk% Anomaly Prof. All cause you forgot to lock it, locking every single disk you want is as much of a time saver as marking the disks you don't want as trash in the reward page, literally takes me 2 seconds after every fight.
>>616960 Real Also I, personally, want Yutane to be more "enhanced"
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>>616965 I know, but I'm mad that people don't read an assume the other anon wanted to simply dismantle the discs en-masse, while he wanted to mark them as trash. Yes it's retarded, but I don't like seeing people get misunderstood
>>616969 I'm surprised you don't see more lamias in gacha since they're pretty popular as far as non human girls go, it's only like FGO that has made one.
>>616988 3D snake women are hard.
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>>616969 would she be physical anomaly?
>>616989 SMT seems to be able to handle it just fine
>>616962 lmao 97% crit for 93% cdmg is downright hilarious
>>616995 Snake women in a game like ZZZ would be difficult to pull off cause of the tail movement/animation
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>>617001 if there's anyone who can pull it off it's definitely our devs
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Has anyone tries that new Persona gacha? Is it any good?
>>616997 I guess it doesn't even matter whether or not you max out her buff. It's a bit silly imo. I'm gonna swap to another disc 5 because my autism can't handle this.
>new event >its just a refurbished version of the sandwich van one Come on
>>616961 she has enough to make the set work without CR buffs, I never tried to test if with buffs it would also activate the set effect. probably yes, since fufu's M1 also gives her 12% more CR only when she is in combat.
>>617001 >>617010 Yeah if any game is gonna animate fucking spider walking or slitering in 3D, it'd be this one. THey can also stretch, skew and exaggerate as much as they want I should go using Pulchra for a bit and see how many of her swoops can be read as her "pouncing"
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>>616990 Ether Anomaly or Attack, clearly.
Chinatsu got the fattest ass out of the three idols. And shes self conscious about it: every little cupcake she eats, every little piece of candy she munches on, goes straight to her ass. And she hates it
how late was divegrass happening again?
>>616997 you're forgetting she gives herself 80% more crit dmg
>>617032 i just found it funny to see that in the statscreen. it is kind of stupid that IK considers cdmg a less valuable stat though, especialy since B&B and woodpecker are her best 2-pieces pre m3 imo.
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finally finished the 2.0 story, getting a little annoyed that every single victory we have is immediately undermined by a Sarah “all according to keikaku” scene
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>>617023 yeah I thought about ether at first, but it's not like her feng shui engine let's her shoot actual laser beams, it just gives her superhuman strength and speed so physical makes more sense to me
>>617024 nerd just go out for a walk, how hard can it be??
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>>617050 >actual laser beams Not laser beams, but she has plenty of not-magical bullshit that fits Ether fine. In fact, Yixuan is thematically similar to her.
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Amazing webp rendering. Very cool.
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There are zero (0) girls built like Pulchra in real life and that makes me sad.
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>>617043 Actually, how bad is Trigger scars? Also can the visor removed?
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miyabi mono ice has reached a new ceiling 5 shimotsukis + 2 ultimates in one stun combo
>>617056 I mean...I guess all her fuhajin stuff could be repurposed into ether but I always thought that was wind based
>>616986 Oh yeah, I will give you that, people on the interwebs tend to do that.
>>617067 It's never specified but general consensus seems to be she straight up doesn't have anything that can be said to be "eyes" anymore, and it's unlikely the visor can be removed without the whole face falling apart.
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>>616864 I'm I finally have a good stunner for Eve.
>>617083 Isn't the visor like a "corruption containment device" keeping her from basically dying from corruption/turning into a ethereal? As a side-effect she got her super-vision but it was not intended, at least from the wording.
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Nice my crit Fufu did improve my score a bit. I still got 4 stuns so I guess I didn't need the 2p impact after all.
Damn, Jufufu M1W1 isn't even close to Trigger M1W1. I wanted to play my full NEKO team, but I'm just barely scraping 20k with Nekomata M1W1, Pulchra M6W5, Jufufu M1W1 against Pompey. With Trigger + Nicole I can easily do 30k+.
>>617014 The fact that the setting is literally just Persona 5 but with new characters is weird to me. also I don't want to get into a turn-based combat gacha, that's a recipe for powercreep galore.
>>617092 Try Nicole+Fufu
>>617099 It's better, but my kots...
>>617092 Can Neko really abuse Fufu's chain attack and ultimate damage bonus? Last time, I remember even Billy M6 had higher attack% scaling on his ult and chain attack.
>>617014 nah, not into persona in general. even tho I enjoy turn based games. overrated in my opinion
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We love Lucy here
Proxies, I am going into the hollow and I need your most cursed images to fight against raiders
guys...I......I don't run Lucy anymore.....
>>617127 S rank Lucy some day...
STOP POSTING LUCY YOU ARE MAKING ME MAD BECAUSE I STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO M6 HER BECAUSE SHE IS ALWAYS ON A BANNER I HAVE TO SKIP
>>617087 Yeah her eyes are corrupted, and corruption can’t exist outside of the Hollows, so she wears the visor to keep her eyes from dissipating.
>>617120 You can't handle my most cursed images, traveler.
>>617131 you can buy 1 lucy every month now
>>617120 My images are too cursed for you, Agent. My images could kill the CREATOR let alone a MAN
>>617127 I still use Miyabi Burnice Lucy or even Piper Burnice Lucy sometimes but after Yuzuha I probably don't have much reason to use her anymore.
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cute
>>617140 I’ll never stop using Piper/Lucy/Burnice because the pig rain is too much fun
>>617127 >use lucy some >hey this is alright >ex misses once >oh ye >stop using her for awhile >repeat
>>617137 That is like 6 rolls isn't it? I know for a fact down the line those 18 rolls will make me not get an agent down the line
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>>617120 in a perfect world, pictures like these would not exist but this is not a perfect world...
>>617131 I accidentally M2'd Burnice on her first banner, all because Lucy kept evading my A-rank rolls... Damn brat, desuwa old screenshot
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>>617144 Based
>>617146 its a decent value proposition imo if you use lucy every cycle could be a good trade
Mibibi skin when
I did it, but I'm not happy about it. Jufufu feels too weak, and I don't know if I should blame Neko or not.
>>617130 S-rank Lucy needs to have Grassy, Woody and Bricky wearing the same sunglasses as Big Daddy's. Also she should enslave even more boar thiren midgets.
Post more Nicole. It's a Nicole fap day
>>617164 >no swimsuit Miyabi in 2.1 it’s not fair
>>617169 What score did you get?
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>>617173 Ok but consider this: Meebs wearing an open samurai-style robe with her sarashi'd up tits on display. Now I wanna play Rise of the Ronin again to create more samurai sluts
>>617175 25k with Neko team 31k with Grace team 40k mashing buttons with Miyabi
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>>617120 Are you sure you can handle it? This curse could kill an etherial I am even going to sprinkle some wipeouts around it to contain the curse, I am warning you do not open the middle one if you are weak of mind
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>>617183 Hmm did you get 3 or 4 stuns on Pompey? Because it might be a build problem if you only got 3.
>>617187 Anon said cursed
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Bing Bing WAHOOO
>>617197 4 stuns, 3 with Nico ults into Neko ults. I was using the ult buff instead of the stun buff.
>>617212 You should be able to ult in every stun with Jufufu's decibel buffs.
2/2/2 is fine on Evelyn right? Optimizer is telling me to run that >>617178 >>617184 God, she so fucking sexy
>>617217 >2/2/2 is fine on Evelyn right? Fuck no, set it to use either 4pc woodpecker or hormone.
>>617212 I see. It's surprising to me that the difference between Trigger and Jufufu is so big. I would expect Fufu to perform better vs Pompey. I guess I'll try out the team myself. Also I think the stun buff is better.
I’m now back in LA and ready to spend 200 dollars for the zzz collab through food :)
>>617201 They are doing the fucking Nika pose
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I fucking love oni
>>617151 How do you think Nicole would feel if she saw these images on your phone?
>>617069 How come your miyabi is so strong...
Is this Panda usable now? Just 3k attack?
>>617217 >2/2/2 is fine on Evelyn right? Remember this comparison forever: >2x2x2 at very least competes with 2x + 2x + 4x >4xWoodpecker gives you 9% in-combat ATK for just pressing BA >in-combat ATK is weighed equally to CRIT Rate%, passive ATK% and DMG% are 80% as valuable (thus you get 25% more of those), and CRIT DMG% is 50% across most comparable sources >Possible universal 2x Drive Disc effects are: 8% CRIT Rate, 16% CRIT DMG, 10% ATK, or 10% DMG >4xWoodpecker being 9% in-combat ATK is mathematically better than any of those >and 4xWoodpecker is not limited to just 9% of in-combat ATK, and neither is it the most valuable set So the tl;dr is no, 2x2x2 is never fine. You might not have a single set without dogshit discs, though, then you should hit up the mines.
PRAISE BE THE CREATOR toriga disk btw
>>617275 daily melon juice enema
>2.1 livestream next week has the same date as 1st year anniversary isn't that quite coincident... do you think they will show anything more than normal livestream?
>>617201 White Warrior!
>>617288 They'll announce some special free 10 roll that comes in the mail after the livestream(delusional)
>>617286 And another one, I think it's prime time to roll your crit disks bwos
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>>617298 This one is very nice.
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>>617212 It took some practice because my agents kept dying mid fight. I guess I'm too used to having lots of I-frames from newer agents. My Fufu is M2W1 and Neko is M4W1 and my builds are good. I don't have Trigger so I can't really compare but Neko Fufu Nicole seems like a solid team with enough investment. I used the stun buff.
>>617287 I've never gotten a 3m disorder before.
>>617069 Maybe I should go back "playing" turn based games...
>>617307 I did this
>>617312 that mp4 is 1 turn
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>>617271 she would laugh and she would give me a kiss on the cheek
>>617306 Jesus fucking christ I've never had such consistent luck with crit. I've had most of these disks at lvl0 for a while and decided to finally level them up I thought farming for Astral disks for trigger would be a fucking nightmare but it only took me 5 minutes and now i'm overcapping her crit rate.
>>617288 Free Alice
>>617310 > I used the stun buff. The anomaly one is most likely better. 30% constant ATK buff is huge and 500 Decibels every 15 seconds is nothing to sneeze at.
Prolly won't get impartial answers in the dedicated threads so I'll ask here How's wuwa compared to genshin?
>>617322 >homasa tier Alice No thanks.
>>617279 maybe some energy
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>>617324 I see that sounds interesting. I haven't used it for non-anomaly teams. I'll try it out later.
>>617288 New song from Yi
>>617325 Better in every way imaginable unless you're a shotacon. One of my two favourite gachashit alongside Zenless Zone Zero.
>>616924 After reviewing this it seems like the strategy you use is to lock the good disks up front. What I've been doing is the possibly lazy way of just spending no time at the outset marking disks and just cleaning it up later once I have a good chunk of disks. That's why, for you, it worked fine because yours are pre-marked. I just like doing everything in a big batch with some filtering. I wish I could set auto-run rules for chunking disks as well but maybe that's asking too much.
>no free Crispyboo from event rewards What the fuck da wei this lil dude is crispy as fuck let me run a DA with the fried Boo what's the fucking point if you don't let me kill big monsters by flinging fryer baskets of chicken at them?
>>617195 I would appreciate this translated
>>617355 If it were nip I could do it but unfortunately it's in Chinese, just use google lens
>>617355 I can translate the top left panel of the first page. "You two. Did/Have you <some verb I don't know>?"
You know how each agent's damage is divided into categories: Pierce, Slash and Strike Do these actually have any impact on the gameplay? Cause I don't remember it even being brought up by the game, or even see it discussed online
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>>617311 i think this was the build i had its mostly bringer's stage buff and 301 ap doing the big number
>>617347 cap. genshin is a cheap breath of the wild clone whereas wuwa is a cheap genshin clone, which shows on its quality.
>>617288 Free Yuzuha incoming
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why is Alice wearing two fucking Apple Watches????
>>617437 lucy bullied alice for her heterochromia so now shes trying to compensate by making everything symmetrical
>>617437 Her wealth is disgusting
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I love cats
>>617377 the dart bangboo needs one pierce agent to get some buffs. that's literally all.
>>617441 if devs gonna do her that theme they should make her dual wielding. it's such a lost opportunity...
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Bros, puffer 4pc is really good on shifu right, it boost ult dmg like she wants right
>>617448 >Pierce is the only damage type to get any content SlashFags and StrikeKeks, your response?
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>>617441 if only they were that silly, it would have been KINO >https://youtu.be/a-KcTT3mfGo
>>617437 one is for me
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>>617459 Of course, bro! It's BiS, bro! of course it fucking isn't, you're losing 2x set effect, ATK buff only has like 30% of its usual value on her, and her DMG is already pretty saturated
For Toriga's 2-piece disks, which is better? King of the Summit (6% more daze on attacks) or Shockstar (impact +6%) Not giving her 4-piece KotS cause Ju Fufu's already rolling it, I have disks for both sets that can get her to 90% crit rate also just realised Ju Fufu's disk set is abbreviated to KOTS, lmao
>>617377 Pierce is good for counter attack bonus, while strike is really efficient against armored enemies. Wait, this is not the dark souls general.
>>617217 do not run 2/2/2, go for 4pc Woodpecker/Hormone, for 2pc it depends on your stats and team, you can use B&B if you're lacking in cdmg and don't have Fufu/Lighter, 2pc ATK% is always good, 2pc Inferno if you don't have Lighter is good, or you can use 2pc Puffer if your disc 5 is Pen% and you're using Lighter
>>617484 >King of the Summit (6% more daze on attacks) Holy shit, I completely missed the fact they changed it from 6% Impact. What a Lighter nerf. That being said, Shockstar is better. Trigger already has Daze up the ass, so scaling Impact is more efficient on her.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LFbkYkbIw what do you think of full 1.4pv song?
>>617464 Yuzuha is strike btw
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>>617494 Thanks bwo, I probably could have guessed that 6% more impact provides more daze than just a 6% daze increase, but i'm mentally retarded
>>617502 increase suibian temple restoration lv. to 25
>>617502 Go to Belle's room and fuck my sister.
>>617483 I know it isn't lmao I already have a bretty good 4p yunkui set on her, I just wanted to complain about a 4p hp% puffer with those stats
>>617502 I'm fucking my sister, final answer
>>617525 I know
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Alice = Alice + White Rabbit Yuzuha = Queen of Hearts + Cheshire Cat Manato = Playing card soldier + ???
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>>617573 Mad Hatter (now the Mad Lifter)
>>617437 one of them is mine. she's wearing it so I can fraud my step count higher because my healthcare costs less if I get 5k steps per day
>>617573 The Jabberjock
can't wait to pull my anomaly wheelchair (which is a cripple herself)
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Need some advice. When I play Yixuan, it feel like she does no damage. Couldn't beat the Hallow Zero boss in the 3:30 despite having Fufu/Panda (though he is M2 and on athe event weapon). She has her ball as well. Is it just my disc suck or am I playing her wrong.
>>617594 your crit damage is very bad, trial yixuan is stronger than that
>>617594 Your crit cmg is pretty bad
My rate up luck just keeps getting lower.
>>617594 You could drop some HP for Crit Damage, most people I see use around 18k HP which is something like 2400~2500 for sheer force so yours is a little higher than you need.
>>617594 >She has her ball as well also, you are overcapping on crit rate (2 subs) i did some napkin math and trial yixuan (pic) is comparable to that, weaker considering you have sig ball, you should be able to clear 15/15 with decent resonia - you may be playing wrongly
>>617607 Hey, at least you're not one of the poor souls with 9/10/11 losing streaks you can find. Where is my capturing radiance. Better yet, ditch the 50/50 and 75/25 and start pumping out skins, that gives more money because 'oh it's just 15 bucks' gets to more people than 'oh i lost the 50/50 now I have to drop 300 to get the character fuck this game uninstall'
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Sweety date when?
>>617626 as soon as she starts wearing deodorant
>>617624 >can't buy skins as f2p >skins can fix ugly characters making you want to roll them The demon of Babylon disguises himself with the coat of the righteous
>>617594 Where did your crit dmg go?
Where do I find this ID-Character script?
>>617634 Just stack monthly passes with a vpn
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>>617624 >that gives more money because 'oh it's just 15 bucks' gets to more people than 'oh i lost the 50/50 now I have to drop 300 to get the character fuck this game uninstall' Theres a breakpoint there though we're retards spending 400$ far outpaces the 15$ skins. Obviously they can double dip but they'll never stop squeezing for cash whatever way they can. That's the big reason micro transactions have rockets since their inception.
>>617398 Damn I can't even get a good disorder with my stats
>>617642 You'd already run out by 2.2 if you bought everything, that only works in Genshit because skins release every half year
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>>617634 Inter-Knot Membership is F2P thougheverbeithelessandevermore? As well as the first-time top-ups?! In fact, it's literally making money off the game by stealing from Da Wei!
>>617634 Nah, characters are being sold, remember? So they have to be attractive and appealing as a baseline. The paid skin CAN be better/prettier than the base skin, but the latter will always be good. >>617644 Counterpoint to that is that there's a huge difference between 15$ and 300$. I've always said that whales will still whale. Let's say they drop the 50/50 and make the pity 120. That makes it so that more people can get the character, and the more people have that character, the more chances there are that they might as well spend those 10$ on the skin before the discount ends. Meanwhile, those who want to whale to m6 still have to spend around 1500$ if they're unlucky, realistically 1000$. Not counting weapon btw. Plus the 10$ for the skin because they're whales of course.
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>>617596 >>617597 >>617618 >>617623 >>617635 Thanks anons. Gonna probably go back to the Disc mines and see if I can get something better. Trying to build three characters in one patch cycle did tap me out. Is there anything you all do during the stun window? I've just been doing my Ult and the big circle but there may be a better use of my time. I'll try again now that I moved some discs to get crit damage. Also Panda was on the wrong ball
>>617664 Stun window easy rotation is Start on Jufu or whoever your third agent is and do Yi Xuan chain then cancel, swap to panda and use his Ex into another Yi Xuan chain. Then use both Yi Xuan Ults and then her held basic for Cloud Shaper. There's some neat cancel tech she has but you can do fine with the simplified one.
>>617624 skins in 2.2 according to leakers
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>>617644 GFL2 does it pretty well, I think. There's no bad luck protection, but soft pity begins at 58 instead of 75, making it easier to get the character you're rolling for, and nearly all of them come with an outfit on release, encouraging even small spenders to buy it while it's on a discount. So while it takes 30% fewer rolls to get a new character, you get way more potential outfit buyers and even people willing to go for dupes. The consistent outfit release schedule also doubles as an incentive to get the monthly pass, because you can either get a purple outfit every 3 months or a gold one every 4~5 months.
>>617624 >>617644 >>617683 If ZZZ added the 100% rate up banner that Snowbreak introduced and added more cosmetics in exchange for adding more roll currency per patch it would honestly be damn near a perfect gacha system. >t.on a now 7 coin flip loss streak
>>617624 but I will literally never buy a skin
>>617683 Doesn't that game also have really strong dupes? I was so surprised when I started playing and they were talking about characters needing V2 or V4 or even V6. And it has PvP and competitive boss fights to encourage that kind of thing.
>>617659 >Whales will still whale Right they don't care if more people have an agent though they want you to be upset and swipe for them. If say Twenty Thousand people bought a 15$ skin that's 300,000$ whereas if only 1000 people swiped 400$ that's 400,000$. The cheap skins make them money but whales will easily outpace it, they make more squeezing them then they'll ever make off a bunch of IK subscriptions or skins. Hoyo has all the sales data to know exactly what to make pities and what will be most profitable while maintaining the illusion of giving a shit. ZZZ is cool and all but gacha is inherently evil. Tldr is the pity and coin flips stay unless they determine more player retention > sales from current whales
omg hi /zzz/!
>>617700 >player retention > sales from current whales it is a balancing act, without the average gamer to be compared to, or share with, whales get bored
>>617706 omg orphie hi!!
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and it's disgusting
>>617700 I'm asking myself how many more new and returning players would they get + how many on the verge of quitting would stay if they dropped the coinflip and went full cosmetics. They can't have data on that because it hasn't happened, but I would say the amount of goodwill and new blood that would get them would outpace their current earnings. Also, one thing you haven't mentioned/factored in is that there are still two characters and weapons per patch but only enough currency for one of those four. Even if they drop the coinflip and up the pity, at the current rate you couldn't even guarantee both characters let alone their weapons, so get to swiping gweilo.
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>>617708 True, also if the game was much more generous, the dopamine hit of getting an early roll wouldn't hit as hard. And F2Ps would have to plan out their rolls less, skip less agents and so on. Lets say ZZZ had the same amount of poly's gained per patch (around 110~ pulls for f2p), but soft-pity started at 50 instead, and hard pity at 70. Most of the day 1 players would have 75-90% of the limited agents. At that point the appeal of it being a gacha game dwindles and it's more a nuisance or an after-thought I agree that gachas are inherently scummy, but we all know what we were signing up for when we started playing this game. To most us, the gacha part of ZZZ is one of the major appeals. But if the game got less generous, i'd pay some chink to stab dawei.
can someone help me get this sex pic in high quality?
>>617691 GFL2 has strong dupes but it has absolutely no fucking content outside of the story. You don't need the dupes for anything. PvP is completely avoidable and you can skip all of it while getting all the rewards that matter (pulls). Only boss fights can pose a challenge, but they are beatable with actual thinking, reading and engaging with mechanics, going for strong dupes is if you want to have less of a challenge, not to beat anything. People screaming that you need Vx to use a character is the same like in ZZZ screaming you need the engine or Mx to use a character - they're retarded and you never need them.
>>617714 With the way things are going, AI girlfriends are genuinely gonna end up being the 'norm' in 10 years dibs on AI Anby.
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>>617741 When is the age of NFT AI waifus so you can claim your REAL AI gf?
>>617691 It has strong dupes, yes, but Hoyo gachas aren't any different in that regard. Even here you have people saying you need more dupes and ball to make a character good, but the difference is that since GFL2's rates are better, getting a higher amount of dupes isn't unrealistic. That said, anything beyond V1-V3 is absolutely unnecessary, because outside of that PvP/clan mode, dupes aren't that important as the endgame isn't as dupe reliant as it is brain reliant (more dupes = less thinking). Hell, you can even borrow characters for that PvP mode.
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>>617732 >spoiler Based I'm gonna stop analyzing gacha systems now cause it's making me bummed out.
>>617732 >True, also if the game was much more generous, the dopamine hit of getting an early roll wouldn't hit as hard. That's absolutely not true. The dopamine would still hit as hard, because getting an early roll meant you could afford to roll for dupes or save even more for that next character you want. The focus just shifts slightly from "getting the character" to "getting the character and making them even stronger by getting a dupe, engine, or both".
Is this a good enough Shifu? I don't wanna mine anymore bwos my joints are so tired
>>617765 Fake white women are kinda hot
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So when do we get to find a lost Oni tribe and get some Oni agents and an 'at the level of Void Hunter' Oni and some more Soukaku lore about her former tribe. >>617778 Do you have her ball? Your CR looks a little low but if that's just because you have sig then it looks pretty good, if not drop some HP for crate.
>>617778 Do you have Ether dmg disc 5?
>>617746 thx good gentleman
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>>617777 Quads of truth, but I'd say a lot of casuals roll for characters they like, not for meta. If there's a lot of characters and they can't get all of them, it will bring frustration. >>617732 Gacha in gacha is secondaryn the appeal doesn't lie in the gamble but in everything the game offers inside. Look at Limbus, the player count keeps increasing with each patch and you can spark every character you want for free but faster with the Battle Pass, but it's only 10 buck once half a year, it's actually detrimental to actively roll in there. Yet more and more people are coming. Why? Because people don't want to deal with the gacha and roll for characters for a "dopamine rush" they just want to play, and if you can get everything you want, and choose what you want, it becomes the appeal. "I don't have to leave anything to chance and can get what I want and play with what I want". Ask yourself this question, would you drop ZZZ if they introduced a spark mechanics and you could get every limited from farmable currency?
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>>617792 >Do you have her ball? Yes, I do have her ball but I unfortunately rolled a few ATK rolls on some decent discs instead of HP so I had to supplement it by skipping Ether DMG >>617795 It's HP
invading chinatsus personal space
>>617819 why is she so goddamn fat
what happens if I E6 all the idols?
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>>617800 >would you drop ZZZ if they introduced a spark mechanics Thigga I don't even know what 'spark mechanices' are. >you could get every limited from farmable currency Depending on how much of a grind it is, yeah probably tbh. I put over 2000 hours on Warframe, that's nothing but farming and grinding, once I quit that game years ago I haven't had any motivation to get into a grind centric game >But ZZZ has grinding Takes 2 minutes. >>617777 Rolling dupes is nowhere as exciting as rolling m0, i'm saying that as someone who luckFagged Burnice to m2 with less than 90 rolls >The focus just shifts slightly from "getting the character" to "getting the character and making them even stronger" Casuals don't care about meta or getting 2x-3x times the DA score required for rewards, they care if the character is cool/sexy and fun to play, and that's what they pull for.
>>617833 You unlock the hidden fan meetup orgy
>>617833 you get a personal invitation to their little apartment >>617825 good info here bro >>617024
>>617836 god I wish asses were real...
>>617839 i think spark is supposed to mean guarantee
>>617814 Most of your discs are fine but you disc 5 suck. >unfortunately rolled a few ATK rolls on some decent discs instead of HP so I had to supplement it by skipping Ether DMG What? Ether dmg is still better. Also try to get a bit more crit rate. You are pretty close to having a good build.
>>617841 forgot to add a cute image
>>617814 I'd say you want a bit more crate and an Ether disk if you can but if you're sick of min maxing she's not in an awful state.
>>617836 this person is great at drawing everything except faces which I mean given their name, I guess that makes sense
>>617839 Oh hey same I just got back into WF because my homie wanted me to help him grind and it's still pretty much the same non stop grind fest it was 7 years ago when I quit. Very cursed.
>>617800 That's what I'm asking, how many players would ZZZ get if it was 'the hoyo game with no 50/50' or 'the hoyo game where with enough time you can get every character for free'? Word of mouth and goodwill spreads really fast nowadays after all. Sure they can then go >look inside >it's all paid skins but this is a character action game, the main appeal first and foremost is in the characters and how they fight, not on gambling or getting a skin.
>>617836 hypnotic
>>617866 i would love the game if they removed the coinflips but theyd also lose a lot of gambling money
>>617839 Spark mechanics are shops that you choose which character you want to get from the given currency, I think some other games also have something like this. Pic related, the only character I don't have from all 80 S ranks and that's because I don't need her, one S rank is 400 shards. You get shards from boxes you win from something like Hollow Zero, you get around 100 boxes each weekly reset and as long as you have energy, each run past the weekly still gives you 9 with no limits, so each 4 weeks you could get one S rank like in ZZZ (like getting one S per patch without rolling). And each box is RNG and gives you 1-3 shards, so you could get lucky, open 150 boxes and already 400 shards and a character, only 2 weeks. From my stash of 2843 boxes I'm currently sitting on potential 21 free S ranks and 105994 Polychromes without ever buying a single top-up, only sometimes buying the monthly pass if I feel like supporting the game (each 10 rolls is 130, so less than in ZZZ). Just so you have the gist of it. This is the level of generosity I would like to see in ZZZ. Just buy the battle pass and monthly and you get every limited without dupes or engines. Whales that go for M6 will fuel you financially and casual will be happy with a big roster. >Warframe Applaud the dedication, I know from what I heard it's mental illness level of grinds there.
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>>617682 Is this what I think it is??
>>617882 >look up the game >Unlike most other gacha games, Limbus Company features no Duplicate system, meaning pulling multiple copies of a single Identity will not result in an increased powerlevel. Instead, all duplicate Identities immediately transform into Shards of the respective Sinner, which can be used to directly purchase Identities or EGO from a shop >no dupes so it's like not even close to being the same business model
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>>617714 I'll never forgive them for how they lobotomized CAI
>>617839 >Warframe The only reason I'm pro-energy in hoyo games. Fuck this "farm 8 hours a day to get a 0.1% drop from the 20min mark of a survival mission" type shit
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>>617896 Yeah, ZZZ has the shit Hoyo system that other companies keep copying unfortunately, GLF2 also went with it when it could do much better. Even Snowbreak or PGR lets you farm dupes without needing to roll for them, and they also copied Hoyo. For how good of a game and how much I love ZZZ, it has the shit stigma of one of the worst gacha systems - the Hoyo system.
>>617839 >I put over 2000 hours on Warframe Look at him wasting his time, am I right? LMAO
>>617904 >farm 8 hours a day to get a 0.1% chance for 1/3 of a character from the 20th floor mark of a tower climb or maybe it would be even less than that since that warfarm rate might be for a material not a blueprint, it has been a long time since I was a 10o
Does Jufufu need her engine?
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dont mind me just posting some Fufu
This team against this boss with these buffs is pure kino. If I knew Shifu's tech I might even be able to 50k. >>617922 It's less of a >INSANE 20% damage increase! W-engine and more like a >makes building her not a pain in the ass W-engine. So no.
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>>617906 Fuck off Rost
>>617925 This guy's artstyle could use more shading.
>>617924 >>617926 Alright which engine should I get for her then? Haven't used my engine ticket either.
>>617922 You can cap her ATK% buff with just discs, her engine is a premium choice
>>617904 >>617921 Unironically, grinding in Warframe was mostly fine. I dropped it because I mostly ran out of verticality for the frames I was interested in playing. The devs decided to lean more into horizontal scaling, and I couldn't care less about 90% of content they were putting out. An example of TOO MUCH grinding for me was actually Albion Online. The game has too much of a direct and unrestricted correlation between the time invested and in-game wealth gained. It's perfect for, like, kids with 10+ hours of free time a day, but I'm so over the whole "second job game" thing. even if I rarely play games other than ZZZ right now
>>617934 opinion on Aion?
>>617932 Hellfire > Steam oven > the rest.
>>617921 Current key rates for Prime shit is 10% for the gold drop on a radiant key, my buddy and I have farmed like 7 prime frames in the last week or so only playing a few hours a night. There's a lot of bullshit that goes into everything else but their rates on actual characters aren't bad. It's mostly the min max weapon mod autism scene that gets insane grinds. Zenless Zone Zero
>>617904 I remember having to farm like 40k oxium to build Vauban Prime. At the time, Oxium was only obtainable from a single enemy, that has low spawn rates, and they only dropped like 80-140 oxium when they die. it took me 2 weeks of non-stop farming to get enough, AND THAT'S WITH THE BOOSTED DROP RATES FROM PLAYING AS NEKROS that shit was doable when I was a teenager with no responsibilities, I got a full time job now, so yeah i'm happy enough to log into ZZZ for 5 minutes a day to get enough polys to guarantee a teenager BRAT in 3 weeks time
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Seeing this subject about the gacha part of the game, this whole part is what makes me skip most of the characters, because I'm not going to risk it knowing that I won't get the character and especially knowing that a character costs like 500 dollars. I end up just accumulating and only using my polys when I know I have enough to get what I want and prioritize more, so I always end up finding the whole gacha part counterproductive for me, because it only makes me ignore a part that they are trying very hard to sell.
you guys are missing the core part of the problem, which is that the wageslave lifestyle should have never been normalized
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I like her ass
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>>617940 I never played it specifically, and from reading up on it back in the day, it seemed like yet another Korean-style MMO ripping WoW off, which IMO is a failed formula (I played Perfect World, Requiem Online, and some other shit like that). I did play Lineage II a bit back in the day and it technically also has uncapped grind potential, but when you get to the real end-game, it kinda becomes socially capped anyway - you need to be in a clan, you need to participate in the arena, you need to compete for timed raids, etc. So while you do grind all day every day, the actual rewarding content is limited. In Albion, however, due to how the game is structured, you can reasonably get yourself top 1% gear by just spending a ~week grinding solo. The caveat is that you're likely to lose that gear if you try to actually use it, but the feeling of progress itself is so strong, it made me feel like I was unironically wasting my time wherever I wasn't farming something.
If I'm running Hellfire on Fufu, do I opt for Atk% main on 4 and 5?
>>617970 If you can hit 50% crit without disc 4, yeah
>>617970 Maxing out her buff is more important than scaling her Impact. Think about it this way: ATK% is better than usual on her because of the buff. Impact% is worse than usual on her, because her base Impact is low for a stunner and she gets a bunch of flat Impact which doesn't scale with Impact%.
>>617913 >one of the worst gacha systems - the Hoyo system. I don't get how people say this when there's the old Hoyo system (characters disfunctional without weapons), the non-Limbus spark system (save up 200 pulls for a banner or gamble) and various systems JP gachas are notorious for
>>617970 yes crit is easy to hit with substats
>>617976 He said disk 4 and 5. Impact can only be rolled on disk 6.
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>>617957 >>617981 Shifu booty smack training!
>>617970 Any Fufu build should be running atk% atk% in those two slots, she gets a bunch of CR naturally so CR disc 4 is only needed as a filler for very cope builds and there is no use in PEN% or Fire% disc 5 when the personal damage difference will be negligible but you won't double dip on stacking her ATK to CDMG buff
>>617970 atk 4, atk 5, impact 6 is the ideal build with Hellfire. 3400 is a maximum so don't break your build and miss stuns just because you only have 3200 atk.
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Highschoolers.
>>617977 Rate-up banners are called "rate-up" for a reason. You used to just have a higher chance to get the character but having a guarantee wasn't common pre-genshin
bros
>>617977 I said one of the worst, I know there are games like FGO. But just because it's better than the worst doesn't mean it's good. It's still shit and highly predatory. And there are games with better systems. Hoyo systems rely heavily on the low 0,8% or whatever pity with extremely low pull chances, it doesn't even feel like a gamble when I know I will have to fork up 80 pulls to reach the pity anyway. That's the part I hate the most, you need 80 rolls (160 total) to secure a character and the actual gamble is minimal, you only get one coinflip at the 50/50, and if you lose it it's another 80 rolls wasted to get to pity. Early pulls are just too rare.
>>617839 >Casuals don't care about meta When did I say they care about meta? They care about making their characters stronger, even if they're already clearing content. You think they wouldn't roll for signature engines - for their stat boost of visual upgrade - if they could afford to?
>>618009 Is that an Anomaly Proficiency +3 disk I see?
>>618011 The only real gamble is getting a S/5* right before 80 pulls and maybe being lucky to get another in the next 10 pull
>>618015 fvck...
>>618015 Would still be good for like Anomaly team Rina/Yanagi >>618009 +5 ATK%!!!
>>618019 not bad
>>617976 no it isn't 1 more stun is worth more than 10 crit dmg
>>618019 >It was for Miyabi Well it would've been good regardless then. crit dmg +3 is a good roll, nice disk bwo
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Any Vivian enjoyers itt?
Im prefarming for Yuzu and I dont know if a 4p Swing would be better than a 4p freedom. Swing is more universal while freedom is better for the rat
ok bros surely
>>618024 eagerly waiting for Yuzuha+Alice to finally be able to run the kino JK comp
>>618011 > you need 80 rolls (160 total) to secure a character and the actual gamble is minimal That's what makes it good. You can easily calculate how much you need for a character and if you get one early it's exciting because you can go for cons or need to save less for the other characters you want
>>618022 1) It won't give you an extra stun 95% of the time 2) 10% CRIT DMG over the course of a three minutes fight can in fact be better than an improved stun timing.
>>618028 +1 in either crit +1 in Atk +2 Def or HP
>>617945 >>617932 Caveat: don't spend for Hellfire. It's not enough of an upgrade over steam oven to justify 30 pulls. Also, if you still have your picker brimstone might be a better upgrade for one of your DPSs than Hellfire would be for Fufu. Depending on who you have.
I'm not rolling for Yuzuha because I don't want to replac Lucy. It's as shrimple as that.
>>618035 brooo i want a godroll aaaa i cant be mad at those disks but when will it be my turn to get an insane one
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This is fine
>>618043 >rolling for balls is a sc-
>>618033 If I can hit 3400 attack with only two disks does this mean I should run crit rate over attack on 4? Or is Fufu's meager personal damage not worth the effort over a little extra impact?
>>618012 I completely forgot that this is also the game where a character having their sig is actually shown on them rather than felt by their performance. It's like they already have the systems in place and all they need to do is pull the trigger, they already have skins + sig glows for the ultimate 'whale showing off their wallet and calling you f2poor', they even let you turn it off for the humble-bragging whales 'oh yeah I spent 2000$ but i'm soo humble amiright'. At some point hoyo will realize that keeping their players happy and pacified is worth more than making them rage at their 10 lost coinflips in a row.
>>618043 no this is not, reported for unreasonable luck
>>618032 This is exactly how I think about my rolls, save up for gurantee, drop 10-20 rolls on a banner of a character I sort of want, either I get them early, lose the 50/50 and get a guarantee, otherwise I have pity built up for the next agent i'm saving for >>618042 Just today I rolled 3 different +3 crit rate and one +3 crit damage disks for Trigger. Should've rolled them like 4 hours ago when it was the seeded crit hour.
>>618004 And having no guarantee is fucking shit, I say this as a luckshitter, being stressed out about having to save for months and worrying about wasting pity sucks. >>618011 There are better systems but those games are obscure, are PNG collectors/dorms simulators or Limbus, the majority either operates on sparks or 50/50 and the latter is better in my opinion. It'd be great if ZZZ worked like AL where even as a latelet you can eventually collect every non-collab character and go into surplus on cubes and the money sink is skins, but that's never going to happen although if we're leaning closer to that than any other Hoyo game currently with the biggest amount of pulls and the rising number of skins
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This Tiger is doing things to my brain...
>>618053 What sorta skin would she look good in?
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>>618046 You want her crit rate to be at least 50%, cause her extra squad-wide crit damage buff depends entirely on her having at least 50% otherwise it doesn't matter. Here's Fufu's stat priorities: Crit rate 50% ATK as close to 3400 as you can get it Everything else into impact (prioritise 3400 atk above any added impact though, except for her engine)
>>618057 sleepy, almost-unbothered sex with this visible bumps shark school girl
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>>618045 >>618048 To be fair ...my normal banner rolls are mediocre at best
>>618061 Yeah, this is me. I always win my engine rolls but my character rolls suck.
>>618037 It's around 150-200 extra attack for Fufu and can be used on any stunner besides Trigger and Pulchra, THOUGH. We'd have to see his whole roster to give advice on which ball would be better, but hellfire is a decent investment.
>>618059 Thanks, I needed that.
IMPORTANT QUESTION Does Fufu have a bush and if so, how hairy? Follow up question, what colour(s) would it be?
>>618061 Wow, look at this absolute luckGOD, how's it feel having a 50/50 winrate that's so high? Fuck coinflips, seriously fuck them
>>618046 I think defaulting to ATK/ATK/Impact and CRIT/ATK/Impact when you get amazing discs is the safe option. The "optimal" option would be to have disc swaps. Impact% is good when the timing of the stun matters, or when it gives you an extra one. ER is interesting on her, as it will give her more Aftershocks, hence more pot CAs, thus more damage and daze buildup as well. AM% can sometimes allow for some weird routing. DPS lineup (so CRIT #4, DMG #5, ATK #6) will give you more score in fights where none of the above do anything interesting, which can be quite a few. Impact becomes a bit better if you're running her W-Engine and not Hellfire Gears because it's less saturated that way. For Hellfire Gears, assuming 2xShockstar, Impact #6 is less than 11% total Daze buildup increase. So, on average, you'd only guarantee an extra stun in fights where you can stun the enemy nine times over. Meanwhile, most of the time, if you're getting enemy 89% stunned, you can get the rest in by adjusting your rotation. But adjusting you rotation is likely a DPS loss, so it's not like Impact #6 is useless.
>>618071 Damn anon ....I would love to treat you a cocktail or two for your loss.
>>618073 >For Hellfire Gears, assuming 2xShockstar, Impact #6 is less than 11% total Daze buildup increase. >So, on average, you'd only guarantee an extra stun in fights where you can stun the enemy nine times over. Oh, and that's given you're only building Daze with Ju Fufu. Which is very much not the case, in fact the most Daze will likely be built by your on-field DPS (or on-field Stun).
>>618024 always here just respecting the jff vibe since its a recent release back to vivianposting soon
Bibian's ball reminded me that luck is not a constant variable. 4 times as expensive as BBN was.
>>617957 She's got a great ass. Not the best but it's nice and meant to be grabbed at every opportunity
>>618032 It's still too expensive for how much rolls you need. If Hoyo gave you 160 rolls F2P each patch I wouldn't mind, but they don't, you get only around 100 on average with the monthly + BP. Not enough to guarantee even 1 character per patch and forcing you to spend if you lose the 50/50, because if you skip a character you want, you have to get it on a rerun, and by that time they can release another character you like and want and you won't be able to save. That means you will have ONE chance to get the character, if you miss there's a possibility you will never get them in the future, even if they rerun. The only saving grace is the omnipandering, some designs will just not click with you and be easy skips, that's the only way to save in this game. And that's without engines. >just don't roll for engines But the visual effects are cool sometimes...
>>618079 > Vivian posters are just like actual Vivian waiting for their moment to strike
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Just never lose the 50/50. Its this easy.
>>618095 You're not supposed to get every character F2P that's the point
>>618107 Teenager.
>>618095 >and by that time they can release another character you like and want and you won't be able to save. Lets not forget their rerun schedule is completely fucked. Astra got her rerun before Caesar, Yanagi, and Harumasa. There's zero predictability.
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>>618111 You can't even get them with monthly + BP, they really really want you to buy top-ups. Everything would be fixed if they included like a 20$ bundle every patch that gives like 40 rolls for the middle spenders, not too expensive for half a pity, and you only buy it once every patch. Top-ups are not worth it at all.
>>618095 >you get only around 100 on average with the monthly + BP You get more than 120 on average purely f2p
how impactful is? should i aim for more AP or more atk?
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>can't manage better than 1:40 with monofire Fufu/Harin/Flopter I wish I got spooked with S11 dupes instead of my M4 Kot
>>618140 how impactful is AP**
>>618111 The point kinda falls flat when you can't get every character as a non f2p either. Oh here's like 40 extra pulls per patch if you buy monthly + BP, of course it's not like we carefully designed it so that we give you an average of exactly 120 per patch without those, oh whaddya know 160 exactly, one character per patch, wouldn't it be funny if we released 2 characters per patch instead, lmao pay up 300$ if you want the other one. Going from 15$ for one character to 300$ for the other is a bit steep don't you think?
>>618142 Could be worse, I have M4 dog
>>618148 160 is 2 characters not 1
>>618148 This is more of a you problem, stop being a slut and just save if you wan't to pull for multiple characters in one patch.
Are you hyped for them?
>>618156 Stop being a disingenuous fuck and look around at the amount of lost coinflips. It's 160.
>>618164 Just Orphie.
>>618164 nah I don't care about any character until I get to play them
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>>618140 AP is usually more highly weighted than ATK on jane however, that seems to be 4? ATK% rolls, which would surpass 2 AP rolls as, on average, 1 AP roll is just ~50% better than 1 ATK roll (so 2 AP = 1 ATK) THIS ASSUMES you have astra buffing ATK by 1200, this is important so between those two, id keep the higher ATK, but they are pretty similar performance wise
>>618140 >>618174 2AP = 3ATK**** sorry kek
>>618165 The median is closer to 100
>>618164 omg orphie
>>618165 You're the one being disingenuous. 160 get's you 2 S-ranks not 1. If you want to throw around numbers assuming you have Bennet tier luck then why not go further and say its 180 since hard pity is at 90
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>>618177 lol no
>>618127 I didn't know Lucy was also into sniffing little girl butts too.
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>>618073 I mostly agree with this but I need to see some examples where ER and AM% actually outperforms Impact or ATK before I will consider them as legit options. >>618076 I think you are underselling impact a bit. I get that in theory it shouldn't be that impactful (heh). But on both Pompey and Miasma priest my experience tells me otherwise. On Miasma priest getting the 2nd stun before he goes into his miasma phase can be difficult even with a full impact build. And if you don't get it before the phase you won't get 4 stuns. I just tried Pompey with Neko Fufu Nicole without impact and when I reached the 4th stun I only had a few seconds left. I could have played better for sure but I also have M2 and it will be even more difficult to get the 4th stun at M0. Maybe impact isn't as important on other bosses but that is my experience so far.
>>618164 Orphie's ass is massive holy shit
>>617654 >>618164 Orphie's GIANT TITS keep getting in the way of Captain's line of sight
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>>618134 No. In May on the right I got only around 75 limited pulls Monthly + BP (lmao) - May was a dead patch and I skipped both Vivian and Hugo, so no extras from exchanging signals form dupes (these are not counted for here) In April on the left I got around 110 pulls Monthly + BP + maybe around 40 from rolling both Trigger and SAnby and exchanging signals from dupes, if you want to count them in as they're technically outside of what's give to us I do all the events and clear all endgame, I only don't hunt achievements and skip bonding hangout. Never believed those faggots doing pull counts when I have a tool telling me how much I'm actually getting.
>>618208 >join the defense force >get a beautiful wife >have to worry 24/7 about her safety Is it really worth it?
>>618219 >not picking the defense force wife that can have its memory erased and instead picking cripple · ( ◡̀_◡́)ᕤ
>>618219 have to deal with. her being away all the time it must suck
>>618227 It's okay, I have a perfect plan. Constant pregnancy to prevent deployment.
>>618210 Idk man, I trust a spreadsheet with a full breakdown of everything more than a summary based on personal data https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTiSx8OSyx-BZktnpT-fh_pQHjjkD8q3sp3Csy2aOI-8CV_QroqxzhhNjiCZNV4IdzhyK3xbipZn9WD/pubhtml
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I went down to 0 on Bibian's banner and now I have >5 tapes >30069 polys = 187 tapes >700 residuals = 35 tapes Total 227 not counting all the extras I'd get from using them. Someone must be stealing your polys or smth because I don't even get the BP and haven't refreshed the IK pass in a few months
Fufu's wish events as well as her final trust event were surprisingly lovey dovey.
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>>618255 bwo your spoiler?
>>618233 >Having to raise a horde of deaf children, living solely on your soldier wife's maternity leave pay Worth it.
>>618235 I mean whoever makes that doc is putting monthly reset tapes as 6.6. Which I get, because a patch is 40 days and sometimes you get two montly resets per patch. But you can't buy a tape and a half. Polys sure, but why not put 5 or 10 if you're counting per patch anyway? It's just confusing and messes up the data.
I'VE BECOME THE UNDISPUTED CHAMPION
>>618260 Counterpoint.
>>618260 Hmm, nyo.
>>618274 God, sexy blind desperate women are so fucking hot and adorable
>wake up >everything hurts >hours later >everything still hurts I'm getting old.
>>618174 yea that's pretty spot on, the AP build has two disks with flat atk and my main team has astra/bibi So when yuzuha drops will the AP outweight atk again?
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>>618235 >he downscaled my gif
>>618293 yuzuha buffs 1200 ATK like astra and she has no direct AP buff in the kit, the AP to ATK proportion will stay the absolute same 2 AP ~= 3 ATK%, in terms of rolls even if you get yuzuha's sig (which currently buffs AP), i can't expect ATK to surpass AP 1:1, more like 2 AP ~= 2,5 ATK%, in terms of rolls
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>when I already made an APNG for it
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PLEASE COME HOME...............
>>618308 I believe!
>>618308 >She saw your posts calling her a yellow cat thiren.
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>>618308 >30 monochromes Bwo... there's still 16 days you didn't have to
You can do it bwo
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>>618313 >>618314 >>618317 >did 1 roll >got an A refund >did another roll >got an B
>>618174 >>618293 >>618306 The formula is ATK * AP/100, but you have to account for all the stats, including in-combat buffs. In this case, the 2777 ATK build is better even if you add 1200 ATK to both builds.
This guy fucked a thiren cutie...
>>618328 83 for sure!!
>>618330 gotta add jane's passive ATK buff also anon, +600 with this rule of thumb calc you get them at 0,07% of each other, basically meaningless however, that applies only to anomaly damage, 20~25% of jane's damage is normal hits, which only scale of ATK so the ATK build is clearly the winner
>>618328 Phon on silent... Not linging...
>>618365 I'm doing quality time for the chromes... I'll try again later
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good evening brothers I've been neglecting coming here recently because I don't want to get fomo'd into rolling Fufu just for her cute JP voice because I don't particularly like her gameplay and I REALLY want Yuzuha and Alice
>>618371 Shiyu reset for sure anon... You're not on a coin flip are you?
>>618379 on a coinflip haha......
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>>618382 >get jufufu >miss out on these two sexo JKs hmm nyo I might get her on her rerun in 6 months, but I'd rather get my clears bricked than risk skipping these two
>>618388 Holy shit bro... Surely Senior Fufu will see your dedication and come home
>>618388 Why are you rolling if you didn't have the amount of pulls necessary to guarantee her.
>>618405 4th looks like AI sloppa. Love Ju Fufu
What would Bibian and Zhu think of each other?
>>618420 Because it's a gacha game and he wants to try to get her now instead of six months later on a rerun. There's no harm in going for a coin flip.
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Damn it's late so I'll miss divegrass again. Ah well I'm going to sleep
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>>618420 You lose nothing from rolling without pity. If you "lose" your 50/50 then you're just guaranteed to get the next cutie.
>>618460 One more game before we're up.
Now what?
>>618396 Am I the only one here who will try to get him if he is an S rank? I know his design isn't exactly the best, but I'm glad that a Hoyo game finally has a more muscular guy design that's different from the standard handsome gay twink.
>>618473 im planning to get him but not entirely decided, gonna see his animations and what he does
>>618473 I like his design as a gymbro and it's funny he has jiggle physics on his pecs But Orphie and Seed have priority
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bwos what happened to interknot network........
>>618473 I hope he uses a gunblade like the trailer seemed to imply. Hope I'm not remembering wrong. Honestly, I'm fine with him being A or if they see how popular he is among thirsty fujos and they make him S. If he's A, cool, I get to play gunblader. If he's S, cool, free skip.
>>618473 Depends on how he fights. I hope he's S rank at least.
>>618473 Depends on gameplay and animations, but not a fan of his design, and unlike Yuzuha there is no way he'd get a skin that makes me change my mind
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hi hello /zzz/
>>618539 hello sir
>>618503 cutie retard fujo
Holy shit, its him, that fat kot
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Is Fufu the first small body type character to have jiggle bones? Also THEY GAVE FUFU JIGGLE BONES HOLY--
>>618574 10 cubs minimum
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>>618574 Piper's tits jiggle, does that count?
>>618605 Cat thiren breeding grounds...
>>618586 I firmly believe she starts stalking us alongside Trigger after her 4th trust event. Gotta make sure she doesn't forget you after all. And that you don't forget her either...
>>618605 >that Pulchra
>>618605 someone make this with that
>>618586 the first one is good
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>>618605 let me see the Pulchra!
>>618585 Corin's too
>>618626 FUCK Corin.
WHO WILL IT BE???
>>618636 Only the correct kot will bless your roll
>>618636 I shall wish you luck.
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Man I'm always late for the DA posts... Anyway I spent like 20 minutes getting 500 more damage points for 20k to prove my kot strength while listening to Fallen Kingdom
>>618636 Phon Linging!
>>618636 I'm thinking a fire stunner
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So, to be clear, Fufu is only like 10% better than Toriga in a Shifu team or is it more? I know she's Shifu's BiS but how big is the difference?
>>618652 '"IT'S OVER'''
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>>618652 Yyyyyup. That's how they get you, by the way. Sure, there's still 2 weeks left... But this frustrates you so much that you end up just swiping to get it over with. I'm so sorry bro. I've been there.
>>618652 You have 16 more days. I believe.
>>618658 It depends on the boss but 10-15% is what I have heard.
>>618568 WAS THAT THE KOT OF 87?
i hope zzz never gets an onslaught like mode
>>618672 Let's go
>>618693 How bad is it?
>>618699 When /gig/ teamed up with all the other Chinese Gachas, Sopdog was an absolute beast. It's going to be rough.
>>618693 A what?
>>618704 >>618714 its like DA but with selectable difficulity and half of them are for whales (they give no gacha currency rewards after the first half)
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>>618704 >>618714 Jenshin's DA. Only difference is that there's a temporary weapon skin reward when you do 60000x3
>>618725 and it gives a weapon skin that expires at the end of the season/cycle lol
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did they grow again?
>>618672 Link to stream?
>>618743 Click on "live on cytube".
ohnononononono
>>618712 God fucking damnit
dont worry this is how the last match started the COMEBACK of the century is upon us
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You guys going to shanghai to visit the zzz park?
>>618712 What's Sopdog?
>>618730 >and it gives a weapon skin Whao that's pretty good >that expires at the end of the season/cycle lol ... why though???
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>went to grab a snack >down 1
>>618770 how expensive are the flights?
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>Kot missed
>>618728 >temporary weapon skin reward when you do 60000x3 Never change, Jenshin...
>>618773 I'm doing pretty good, how about you?
holy FARK their goalkeeper...........
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GOAL KEEPER
>wide
Wide
guys we need to build some PEN% to pierce GK...
>>618787 Not too bad but I still don't know what Sopdog is
>>618781 How the fuck should I know, I don't know where you live or what season you're going to visit in. Just check flight prices i guess, good thing about China is that it's one of the cheapest high quality tourist destinations you can go to.
>>618798 But my favorite CC says elemental damage is better.
BUFF CAESAR
>>618812 >>618816 It's the most dangerous lead, just like our previous match.
>>618816 by cutting her rat tail!
>>618783 im glad they didnt make it so you need to clear the impossible tier shit to get gems, even the 5th tier is really hard
>>618675 Note that this is only comparing their numerical buffs too. Jufufu's decibel refunds are really hard to quantify the value of.
5 shots on target 2 wides 0 goals
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Anby milking a high score out of me this cycle >"Isn't that supposed to be the other way around?"
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO
She RAPED you
...would be 5-3 if GK was not rigged
Pray for a miracle.
I don't regret skipping Caesar Lawrence
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banging . . . BOOS!
just you wait for the buffs
Here's your buffs.
it could happen
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Miyabi is so sex
How's the game going bros?
>Caesar and Nicole at the end lel
not bad for first showing better luck next season
we need a rupture attacker to pierce GK for next league bros
>didnt align la rata sexo well deserved the loss
We still DA posting? I need the JKs or Evelyn or Orpheus or something to deal with this faggot Pompey, but I just know once they release he'll get replaced by a new, more annoying boss.
>>618933 Your S11 + Lighter duo?
>>618933 Your yi xuan???
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>>618933 Or you could just parry him, this was one not great attempt.
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>>618943 >lighter Nyo! >>618944 Guess I'll have to swap her. She's really fun against UCC but Sanby can't go anywhere else this season. >>618949 I ran that team and got similar results. Really I just want to hit 30k+ across the board, for funsies.
>>618955 Honestly, I should've gotten 2 more Harins with the selectors. I went with stuff I didn't have but don't use, like Rina's M1 and Lycaon.
>>618933 Just parry him
I wonder how will my Burnice perform if I just give her my S11 discs 🤔
>>618953 Do you have Pulchra built? I'd like to see what's the best score you could get with the Pussy Posse against Red Pompey.
>>618933 Miyabi is on Fusion Compiler, Evelyn and Shifu on Marcato Desire. I never pulled balls, but I'm considering going for Alice's, or perhaps Evelyn's since it can double as a stat stick for Yixuan and any future Attacker I get. Do y'all think it's worth it at all?
>>618973 I do have her build. I'm guessing the score would be around 28k. I'm tired and going to bed soon but I can give it a try and see if I can get a decent run. Is Astral voice or swing jazz better on her? I guess I could also do the swing jazz Fufu tech.
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Please, take a look at Nicole
Just realized this sad dude's name is moping bravo dawei
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>>619003 >image starts loading Oh neat, sexy Fuf` >finishes loading Oh...
>>618966 Yeah, bros, I think you might be having a skill issue, if your Burnice is struggling with Pompey.
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>>618987 That depends on what you are rolling balls for in the first place. If it's for score, then you would have benefited WAY more by having Miyabi & Yixuan's wengines. Evelyn's is really good too though, yeah. It's effects are also very pretty. >>618988 I don't have Pulchra built yet, but I would assume Swing is better since I doubt you can 3-stack Astral's buff very easily, and she's the only source of QAs in that team. I wish Fufu had a QA on her EX and/or Ult.
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I get 30k scores on my DAs and never try to improve myself to shoot for 60k because it's too hard
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Do we know anything about Morpheus' kit yet?
>>619019 You're still trying too hard. Shoot for 20k scores instead.
>>619023 nah alice isn't even finished yet bro...
>>619017 Kill all 11's.
>>619023 pills
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Eve skin when?
>>619025 Heh... REAL slackers just get 6 stars and call it a day.
I really wish the respawning Ethereals in The Prophecy would drop more coins when you kill them, grinding back up to a high health stat is a pain in the ass.
>>619034 My slacker liege.
>>619006 It was even better than you first thought.
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>>618801 It's sopmod, the girl with the red and black arm in that picture
>>619009 I can cope on Miyabi's case because my discs on her are literal shit right now, and I don't know how to play mono-ice properly, so I at least have that much room for improvement. Her ball looks very niche too, it would be good only for her essentially. Yixuan's doesn't seem like a good investment either imo, unless every other rupture agent also wants HP%.
Is Shadow Harmony a possible set for Billy? I always see DA runs of him spamming dash attacks and thought it might be a decent idea along with the ATK and crit buff
>>619052 Zenless Zone Zero?
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>>619052 >Model created by a loli hentai artist She's so based for that
>>619052 I thought she was a fish.
>>619052 >vtumor Who cares?
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>vtubers >EN ones at that I will never understand the appeal. Why would you willingly infect perfect and pure 2D with 3DPD malignancy.
>>619052 I see a kani
>>619031 Give her a suit of armor.
Reminder, we're getting our canon vtumors SOON.
>>619050 It's possible if you are missing on crit and have some decent discs on storage, but it's not better than a properly built woodpecker set.
>>619074 if only gura voiced one..
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>>619085 Anime girls dont poop
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surely this is THE ONE
>>619094 Watch this before pulling and you'll get her.
>>619074 They are Idols, they also do live shows along side virtual ones.
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Do NOT fuck your little sister.
>>619094 Enjoy your Kot or Knot
>>619074 >SOON they are coming in 2.5 at the earliest they are a minimum of 5 months away
>>619104 If I'm not supposed to fuck the younger sister, then why is the younger sister so fuckable?
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>>619009 I went for swing jazz on Pulchra and I got 28k on my first attempt. After that I got a bunch of bad runs but I did manage to almost get 30k so I did a few more attempt because I really wanted a 30k+ score. Finally I got a great run in the end. It's going to be hard to beat so I think I'll stop here.
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>>619112 >filename spoiled me its over
>>619112 Told you
>>619112 Happy for you, big boi. Hope she comes home to me too.
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>>619112 Lucky bastard, well done.
>>619112 Congrats and enjoy your Tigkot!
>>619112 Grats bwo, had to call 80+ times but she finally picked up and you didn't call the wrong number
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>>619112 Finally, she picked up her damn phon.
>>619112 congratz bwo
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>>619092 But they do pee.
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we need more intelligent construct agents
b-bros I'm not sure it's an upgrade because of the stat distribution, but holy fuck
>>619074 I will believe that idols will release before the year ends
>>619112 >he picked up the phone
>>619145 Your disk is mine.
BROS IT'S AN UPGRADE A 0.3% UPGRADE!!!!!!!!
This will be you, one of these days.
>>619112 LETS GOOO!!! Happy for you anon, cherish your tiger always for the work you put in to get those last pulls
>>619155 huge >>619156 nah I don't think I'll get into genshin like that
>>619156 Nah. I started on Nahida's release and got her on the 2nd single roll on my 3rd reroll account.
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>>619157 thanks bwo, i'm super glad she's finally phon
>>619112 Congrats on the coinflip bwo Now start saving
I miss Fairy...
>>619168 i want to kiss her on the power button
>>619168 She'll be transplanted into a real body eventually bro
phys anomaly rodents (alice is a lagomorph but fuck off)
>>619172 put her into one of those gorilla mechs
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>>619176 vivian sexo
>>619158 >>619159 I'm saying that you'll have that luck, not that you'll be playing genshin, yuck.
Alice's swimsuit should have looked like this
>>619183 no cleavage and no cheeks? yeah no keep your washboards
>>619183 nah, I'll take my silly apron and meat skewers
>>619182 >I'm saying that you'll have that luck, I'm saying that my luck will never go there.
>>619190 It will come to you regardless.
The suspense around what the fuck they are going to do with Alice in V4 is killing me. July 1st can't arrive soon enough.
evil stored in the boobs
>>619200 bzzzt
I finally have a usable Astra. I get it now. I finally get it. I didn't know things could be this good. I truly did not.
They should remove Alice from the game so we can get to Orphie faster
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>>619199 Insider here. Alice is now an ether defender.
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>>619205 chimer amilk
r-Remember to Sneed!
>>619205 You shouldn't wish ill on others or karma will hit you.
Ok but where does Orphie's tail attach to?
>>619214 spine?
>>619214 >He's never seen a thiren tailhole
>>619210 I wouldn't mind if she wound back to being a crit anomaly, would be an incentive for me to roll her ball.
>>619218 whale but whole
>>619196 Nah. I have years of good luck in games, it's just not meant to be.
>>619219 She's had a shimotsuki since v1. I'm willing to bet my seat on the /zzz/ guild council that she will want crit by the time she releases, no matter what her passive ends up like.
Should I be swapping out freedom blues on Yanagi for the vivian disk set? I figure more AM trumps AP
>>619231 I hope so.
>>619245 So should I drop AM disk 6 for ATK%?
>>619267 if you want to
>>619267 Nyes. Tbqhwyfam I don't think any anomalies need AM disc 6.
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i feel like 40 or 45K is possible vs UCC if i can figure out better ways to get consistent leg breaks, but this boss is so terrible to play against i'll take this and move on.
>>619284 Jane Doe?
Do you think Alice's swimsuit will be improved next beta?
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>>619267 I personally wouldn't because those anomaly slams off Nagi's E are were most her damage come from. But I've also never done the math or cared to test it, so do whatever you want bwo.
>>619287 UCC is the only boss in this game I hate. Bitch turns 5 degrees and your targeting moves to a completely new leg even when you're locked on. Not to mention the insane lingering hitboxes that feel like they were designed by a spiteful 12yo.
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what disc stats for pandaman?
>>619290 Do you use 2 piece vivian set then?
>>619288 Don't have her, I've heard people complain about her application so maybe she does. But in my experience Yanagi, Miyabi, Grace, Piper, and Burnice don't need it.
Bros, filet mignon is such a nice cut. I had one sitting in my freezer for over half a year, I tossed it into the oven when the center was still -1C after salting it 5 minutes before cooking it, got it up to 40, seared it on a pan, finishing it with just a bit of butter, it ended up with a gradient from medium-rare to medium-well, I ate it with black pepper and nothing else, and it still ended up being easily the best steak I ate in a year. Zenless Zone Zero.
what in the ever loving hell is that man wearing
>>619329 It's called drip, bronii-chan
>>619332 but like...why?
>>619329 That's how you spell RC
>>619329 Well? Did you ask him about his store?
>>619339 No, I glared at him and left
>>619329 >>619333 Is this about wise or the other dude?
>>619329 Not bad, would be cooler if one leg of his pants is blue and the other black but flipped from his jacket. Then his shoes will have to be split too but matching on the sides of the jacket.
>>619299 Naw I run 4 Thunder Metal + 2 Chaos jazz when on fielding, and 4 Chaos Jazz + Freedom Blue when using her as a Miyabi battery. AM makes Anomaly stack faster and I've never felt like Nagi needed help with that. Thinking about it though, Disorder does scale off ATK more then AP, so I bet if you were playing her as a sub-DPS ATK% would be better for bigger disorder procs. I really wanna test it now
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>Finally get to do the mecha event >Billy and Grace are in it >Thinking she'll finally pull out the one and only joke she has going for her. >Absolutely 0 dialogue between them, as if he just didn't exist at all despite standing right there. What's the fucking point then?
>>619351 I never liked miyabi battery nagi so I've been running her as mono electric with trigger rina. It does make sense not to have AM6 though. The inter-knot network doesnt seem to agree because my rank drops a bit when I swap those disks
>>619353 The six-hour unskippable cutscene of Grace raping Billy had to be cut due to the unexpected costs incurred by the TV removal. Please understand.
>>619296 Energy ATK ATK. I think he needs like 3K ATK total.
>>619350 That would make him look like an actual clown then. One statement piece is the limit to not stand out too much. That fit is perfect the way it is.
>>619329 >>619333 Look, sometimes you have two jackets that coincidentally have seams on opposite sides, and you're broke that month after spending all your salary on gachas, and your grandma taught you how to seam. Leave him alone, okay.
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bwos help o cant stop playing uma
>>619329 Now that's flash
>>619372 That dude is pimping out his store. He needs to stand out more.
>>619374 THis is probobly going to be Chinatsu, Mircophone and all, judging by how the team has drawn her so far.
>>619329 You're beginning to understand why no one bats an eye at some of our agents' outfits
>>619387 Agents that would get a mood down right before the commission?
>>619353 Yeah it's a wasted opportunity for sure. Anyway, HOLY FUCK are Grace's tits massive. Like I knew they were big but THAT angle in particular really does them justice in capturing how gigantic they are. Like GODDAMN. How does she even manage to see the work table beneath her with those puppies? Holy SHIT.
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>>619361 I'd understand if it was a limited hot waifu, but Grace is literally the second worst brick from the standard banner yet they still go and invalidate her entire gimmick anyway.
>>619381 I thought about it for a minute and decided that if I had two jackets that I'd outgrown, cutting both down and repurposing them into one slightly larger jacket sounds actually almost smart
>>619353 Pretty much everyone agrees that Grace is the least likeable character in the cast, playing too much into the gimmick would just drive players even further into that corner.
>>619416 Nigga what are you even talking about
>>619414 I bet that's what his store does. Wearing the products is how you do marketing after all. You bring them two or more pieces of clothing and they stitch them together for a fee. You can design the result yourself or pay them extra to do it for you.
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>>619416 >Grace is the least likeable character in the cast Outside of /here/ that would be Nekomata, in both personality and gameplay. Nigga's fucking hate that cat
>>619416 >playing too much into the gimmick would just drive players even further into that corner. The thing is, she keeps pushing the overused gimmick 24/7 with bangboos (she even lusted for Billy once in an official promo video on xitter) but somehow acknowledging his existence in-game is not allowed?
>>619429 I don't think anyone hates Nekomata's personality. It's just her gameplay.
>>619416 Grace is actually fun and has personality, unlike Yawnagi and Miyaboring.
>>619353 To be fair she was more focused on the never seen before mech and golden bangboo. Priorities.
>>619450 I was going to say wanting to fuck machines isn't a personality but that would probably make me an enemy of the Chinky posters
>>619455 Don't forget the Billybwos.
>>619429 I love the sex kitten though?
>>619450 >Miyaboring
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>>619416 It's a funny gimmick, though?
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>>619450 Take it back
>>619429 >>619448 Personally I hate her because she is brown, a lot of people on the asian side of the fanbase would probably agree.
>entire thread will be ragebaiting different fans of characters for the next 30 minutes I think Ju Fufu sucks
>>619470 That just makes me want to fuck her more tbqh.
>>619462 I do too, but go make a pro-nekomata post in a facebook group/Tiktok video, and people will go out of there way to let you know how they feel about her more than I see with any other standard banner. Something about a brown high pitched ass wiggling "nya :3" machine just causes people to foam at the mouth.
>>619450 i think the subtler parts of yanagi's personality aren't always represented well, but you have to actually be a speedreader to pretend miyabi has no personality
>>619450 Miyabi might be boring and tailless, but she is unique of course, so is Grace
Some of you have shit taste in fictional women
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>>619450 I like Miyabi because she's a bit autistic, so her antics are interesting. Yanagi is really boring though, I agree.
>>619450 >characters don't have personalities unless their personality is having a wacky, explosive character gimmick
>>619485 It's a gachafag quirk, honestly. The other Cunning Hares are more obviously going to get upgrades down the line, and so are half of the other standards like Leda, Lycaon and Harin (that last one may be a stretch but I wouldn't be surprised) That leaves her, Grace and Rina in the dust, I'm pretty sure Rina only gets positively spoken of because of Yanagi, and Bibi is salvaging Grace now
>hur dur office lady so boring Nagi's personality is that she's an extremely smart, talented and driven woman who has full awareness that the oni blood is going to fucking kill her one day, sooner rather than later, and has dedicated herself to doing as much as possible for other people as she can, due to cippling self esteem issues and/or atonement for participating in the atrocities of war.
>>619477 You gotta stir the pot better, watch this: >>619450 Let me guess, Vivian and Burnice?
>>619453 While that's a good point, she could have at least acknowledged Billy literally existing next to her by exchanging a simple greeting. (if Billy were a human you could argue it was in-character, though.) It just feels so unnatural in this case. >>619450 I would agree if it wasn't because her gimmick is void in-game towards Billy, as if the only Grace simp in the entirety of China would suddenly suicide bomb Mihoyo's HQ because she dared to talk to him.
>>619517 where is it said the oni blood will kill her? I don’t remember that
>>619485 >Something about a brown high pitched ass wiggling "nya :3" machine just causes people to foam at the mouth Same but for different reasons
Yanagi is a pedophile. She constantly diddles Soukaku and is obsessed with SCAMBY's peach fuzz.
>>619517 is soukaku going to turn into an ogre once yanagi dies?
Yanagi is ugly
okay but what do you guys think of Corn?
>>619517 It's like they tried to give Zhu Yuan's overall archetype a new spin and somehow managed to make it even worse. Nagi's character design being incredibly uninspired in contrast to every other in the game also doesn't help her case.
>>619538 I think someone is a bad influence on her.
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>>619526 In a trust event you find out the blood fucks with her eyes and she just kinda goes blind sometimes. But I remember vividly after the fight with the hacker when she goes ultra instinct mode, she's talking to someone from hand who mentions doing shit like that will only cause her health to get worse, but I can't seem to find it, and I will admit there's a distinct possibility it came to me in a dream. I'm gonna keep looking
>>619524 >It just feels so unnatural in this case. She does talk to him. I don't think it's too far out there for her focus on the mech to overshadow Billy, really with 1) the mech being something new and 2) it being on the verge of self destructing at any moment. It would be more odd to have her have one of her moments while something serious is going on.
fufu's firebombs/spin and uuuuwwaaaa sparks joy
Manifesting a better disc set for Evelyn in 2.2.
>>619485 nekomata stealing poly with 50/50s isn't just a /zzz/ meme and that's why people feel okay with hating on her within the game's community. it's not all about her being a brown high pitched ass wiggling "nya :3" machine necessarily
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imaginary technique
I hate blonde white girls with fat asses and would be irrationally upset if someone started posting erotic pictures of them.
>>619551 What they say is something like the surge of unknown power in VR could have consequences, and she thinks to herself that it's not safe to use timestop in VR just because it's fake.
Secret lore: Eve is a Thiren
>Trigger is WAY stronger than Caesar with Yixuan despite lacking the team passive bonus When are they gonna buff Caesar and how?
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>>619547 I disagree with you, but I understand. I love Nagi because she doesn't look like over the top anime protagonist, while still being the most lowkey aura farmer in the game.
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>>619579 Isn't Caesar's support an attack buff? The stat that's useless on Shifu? Am I missing something there?
>>619551 yeah I knew about the blindness, if it would eventually kill her I think she’d be portrayed as a more tragic character though that said it’s weird her whole oni backstory + time stop are barely present in the game, feels like they’d be bigger things
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>>619578 oops i dropped these
>>619579 Isnt Caesar with ball meta defining?
>>619579 No shit the unit that gives an unsaturated +35% dmg bonus in and out of stun and stuns while completely off field works better with the on field parry character than the unit who gives a 1000 atk buff that isn't utilized by even a third due to how rupture works + a generic, saturated 25% dmg bonus.
my paypal has been unlocked! m6 fufu incoming!
>>619589 >an attack buff Yea, it is. She also makes the enemy take a bit more damage which is useful for Shifu but it's not a big number and she needs her passive active for it.
>>619589 ATK directly converts to sheer force, so it's not useless on her. it's just lower value than her HP conversion but otherwise astra and lucy wouldn't work with her either. the actual issue is that caesar is just an 1000 ATK stat stick that can barely output daze and her other buffs are middling. trigger gives permanent 35% stun dmg multiplier which is entirely unsaturated. keep in mind that trigger's ball is entirely useless for yixuan too and she still performs better than caesar on average.
>>619583 Yeah she has some great animations, I'll give her that. I really wish I could like her because she's very strong, but unfortunately she doesn't do it for me.
>>619589 You can always run Shifu solo
>>619603 Lucy isn't really that great for her and Astra does more than just buff flat attack.
>>619583 Why does she do the stripper pose thoughver
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>>619607 the point was moreso that they buffed those specific units to have their AA activate with rupture units, and they certainly don't buff HP, so obviously ATK has to do something for yixuan or there'd be very little point. even astra's value goes down if you remove her ATK buff entirely
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>>619574 Not being able to find absolutely anything, I concede that I am probably just drastically misremembering this conversation. Thanks anon >>619609 Because it's really hot
>>619613 >even astra's value goes down if you remove her ATK buff entirely She still increases Damage% and Crit Damage% for the team, that's a big deal by itself.
>>619599 Let's see it.
>>619554 >She does talk to him. Did she? Maybe I skipped it by accident but I can't remember seeing a single line of dialogue between them. >It would be more odd to have her have one of her moments while something serious is going on. Pretty sure she kept lusting after Hurcules the whole time even with the stakes at hand, then again the story was about him so in that corner I guess you're right. Still, even a simple, short, but funny exchange of words at the start/end of the story would have been enough.
>>619619 >20% DMG (saturated) >25% CD (heavily saturated, especially with fufu in the team) >QA spam for astral voice (24% DMG, saturated) >extra CAs from ult (good but hard to quantify) without the 1200 ATK acting as a sheer force stat stick you would literally never use astra over the panda ever. all she would be doing is padding a bunch of stats that yixuan already has in spades. the only reason she's good for her is because of the ATK > sheer conversion on top of everything else she does. it doesn't really make sense to downplay her main value here
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>>619620 it's done. of course i had to lose yet another 50 for her again.
>>619607 Lucy is is great with Yixuan, she isn't near as powerful as Astra but her ATK buff is still strong, easy to maintain, and does a fair amount of damage if you have her m6 and geared right. Yixuans BA hold and EX chain both proc Lucy's boars and increase buff timer. If you get the panda m6 he still can outperform Lucy with Yixuan but I'd rather suck start a 9mil then play the panda and Lucy enables Burnice (if you have her) so she's still a great pick.
>>619636 Based
>>619636 holy FARK
>>619631 It wasn't really much IIRC. She does lust after Hurcules but it's muted compared to other times she's done such things. >>619635 I believe it's only 400 SF that she gets from Astra. Yea, DMG% is a saturated stat and CD% *can* be a saturated stat, they are still bringing more to the table than Lucy or Caesar bring.
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>>619636 Holy BASED.
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whales arent getting lucky guys. signals haven't updated yet but i lost to lycaon around 77 and got fufu after 50 more
>>619647 no one said lucy or caesar is better than astra so i'm not sure what your point is here
When is beta 2.1.4? Today or tomorrow?
>>619653 I was just saying why people use her over Caesar.
>>619636 Thank you for funding my game.
>>619518 I don't like either. My favorite character is Pulchra. I like Ceasar and Koleda a lot too.
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>>619691 This is something I would have saw on Adult Swim when my TV woke me up at 2:30 in the morning
>>619222 >watch vid >think about adult swim >come back to the thread >see >>619695 spooky
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OMG ITS JOHNNY I HEARD NOBODY COULD RIDE LIKE HIM
>>619657 Tuesday, probably late to finish off Alice's passive and skin. Livestream is friday.
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>>619711 >This post killed the bread Grim, it's a pretty good song
>>619750 Should've had the panda hat on in his post
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>>619764 I would have pulled both of them if they looked like this
I feel like ereaders are unreasonably expensive for what they are.
>>619764 >Defenseless Bibunny booty
Phon Ling is dead.
>>619781 Pretty sure they're both meant to be bats.
>>619781 imagine getting upside-down head
>>619764 >Defenseless Bibunny booty >Bratty Bibat butt
>>619792 That's just 69
>>619806 Only if you're gay and eat her pussy.
>>619806 technically, sure but imagine it while standing sounds great
Ju Fufu's slow ass banner is killing the game
>>619815 eating pussy is gay? what is this, the 1900s?
>>619830 im happy eating pussy in the 1900s
>>619830 >eating pussy is gay? what is this, the 1900s? Why are you as a straight man lowering yourself to do the role woman are supposed to do?
>>619840 damn that's one virgin ass take bro the most manly and dominant thing you can do in bed is make a woman cum. only a wannabe big guy uses them as a tool. give a girl good head and they will worship the ground you walk on
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>>619840 Hell yeah brother, that's why I exclusively eat ass
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>>619849 Why the fuck should any man care about if the woman cums? She's for me to use, not the other way round.
Zenless Zone Zero?
>>619862 Sex is part of ZZZ, yes
>>619859 nigga i hope you are roleplaying KEK
>>619862 I don't think so...
We're looking at a real alpha male's Inter-Knot posts, definitely a future 3.X Agent
>>619859 like I said, you're a wannabe compensating for something pompey ate out every single girl in the outer Ring in his heyday
>>619859 based lvl 99 rape master
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