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/zzz/ - Zenless Zone Zero General Anonymous 07/07/2025 (Mon) 01:38:27 Id: b43716 No. 656039
Previous: >>652309 >News Version 2.1 "The Impending Crash of Waves" Special Program https://youtu.be/lT68Fo91vWk Agent Record | Alice Thymefield https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39231485 Agent Record | Ukinami Yuzuha https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39218785 >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo https://youtu.be/ftIfHp2h7eg (EN) https://youtu.be/Oz3CTkv8AKo (JP) https://youtu.be/DDl9QwUtLGg (EN) https://youtu.be/PzvF1WBLibs (JP) https://youtu.be/B8qkTG12DJU (EN) https://youtu.be/7VcpoJRa4kM (JP) https://youtu.be/dJe0zuy7_6s (EN) https://youtu.be/1iHQwA2kLQc (JP) >Upcoming Events for 2.0 https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/156753 Festival Channel 06/06 - 07/16 Failume Gift 06/06 - 07/15 Soul of Steel: Golden Bond 06/06 - 07/07 Golden Proxy Awards Annual Ceremony 06/06 - 06/23 Gravitational Attraction 06/08 - 07/14 Holographic Onslaught Arena 06/13 - 06/30 Special Cleanup - Triple Bounty 06/18 - 06/23 Tiger's Billowing Roar 06/25 - 07/14 En-Normous Surprise 06/25 - 07/15 Operation Yum 06/28 - 07/14 Combat Training - Triple Bounty 07/04 - 07/09 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online) https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption ZENLESSGIFT ZZZ2NDSEASON ZZZ20NEWSEASON ABZVGEWK3O ZZZTHANK ZZZYOU ZZZFOR ZZZSTAYING ZZZWITHUS RPAnniversary >Resources and useful links
[Expand Post]https://rentry.org/zzzlinks https://rentry.org/ZZZ-drawpile https://rentry.org/ZZZFriends >/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
buny
>>656046 I want her, but she's not bunny enough for me.
<- mentally deficient (cute) wife
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Postan in a corn bread.
>>656046 She's bunny enough for me, I like her :< face. I also like fat JK breasts.
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>>656055 She is also, not bunny enough, I need her at least Pulchra adjacent, imagine if she kept the regal fencer look but went more EXOTIC.
Miss Venus
Post /zzz/ drawings
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Probably missed a few. Payment method was declined somewhere in the middle and I didn't realize
KOLEDA ID NAOW
What's my ID bros I don't have the script
>>656081 thanks bwo
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>>656092 Cairn
>>656092 I'm sorry bro. You are a disgusting creature.
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>>656094 Oh shid, we're manly now.
>>656081 Thought I was too late, thank you based Qingyi
>>656081 Goddammit I was the last one Still, bless you
>>656081 It worked for me, thanks
>>656095 She does have a cute face. And plump legs.
what is the most fun DA boss to fight
finally got to watching the hoyofair for ZZZ damn that shit was insanely good.
Pulchra is the best girl in this game.
>>656123 She's nice, but Trigger is undisputable best girl.
sexy kitties
>>656123 >>656127 Funny way of spelling Soukaku
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>>656122 I think I'll be replaying this one for weeks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b90uYz8XKDI The quality is incredible
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>>656121 Bringer
You guys liked the Ellen song but the opening HoyoFair song was pretty good. She sang in 3 languages. It was the 1.4 TV CM that was broadcasted on JP TV commercials.
>>656121 Bringer because he's a Miyabi check and I own Miyabi so he's just a fun fight that I've never struggled with.
>>656121 I like beating up on Complex. The new priest fight is pretty fun too with the parry segments.
11 btw
>>656081 guess I was one of them, well it doesn't matter next time i hope to win. thanks for the opportunity.
>>656129 IM NOT A KITTY
>>656121 I like Pompey a lot, if he didn't do the time-wasting circling the fight would be perfect.
>>656072 Gimmie a while I'm finishing some requests but I got a fat assed Pulchra incoming.
>>655781 Thanks for the advice. I'll give it a few more tries before calling it quits.
Do your Shiyu clears!
>>656164 Of course YOU do
>>656173 I'll try it again later and try to get an S I was only able to get an A. >>656174 Damn straight, love me big cat.
>>656121 Probably red Pompei, I wish he wasn't just a fire shill boss since I don't have Evelyn and he's not as fun if you're going for Anomaly
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>>656157 UID? >>656173 Redpill me on brawlerboo. Is he better than Rocketboo?
I love and forgive Zhu
>>656173 >yixuan melting twins that fast im going to kill myself
>>656189 1002187893
Why are they so big?
>>656173 What method are you using to record your gameplay?
>>656191 still waiting on the naked dogeza
>>656081 Oh I missed out on the end of the thread
>>656129 making kittens with kittens
>>656197 Dude your shadowplay?
>>656189 >>656193 thanks bwo
>>656196 Nobility is stored in the breasts
>>656196 To feed the future of the Thymefields
>>656189 Rocketboo is just plain better if you have two fire units mine also didn't go through I was the 10th ;-; 1005157998
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>>656189 5* vs 1* Generally yes. 5* vs 5* I don't really know, but Anomaly buildup shouldn't change. In your case I'd probably either run him or Red Moccus, because Red Moccus is goated. And I'd switch Koleda for someone else. Brawlerboo dishes out a lot of damage, Daze and Burn buildup during his attack, and it rapidly does a back-to-back attack at the very start of the fight. I prefer him mostly because he frontloads Burn buildup compared to Rocketboo, so it helps me tighten up the biggest Inferno Metal downtime window. Another thing is, it annoys me that Rocketboo's secondary ability is completely wasted on me, because it only affects his Chain Attack Burn buildup, but I literally never use his Chain Attack. Brawlerboo has a pretty unique attack, though. If you have a source of grouping, like Nicole/Astra/Caesar, it can really help lock the enemy group in place. But if you're grouping with your attacks, you have to be careful with using heavy attacks, as those will cause Brawlerboo to jump in and lock down that particular enemy, messing up all your efforts.
>>656209 What happened to Lucy then?
Wait, trial yi xuan can't clap this boss at 12/15?
>>656217 She's still growing
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>>656217 she's not noble anymore she's a brat from the whores of calydon
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>>656197 What >>656205 said. I screen record with Nvidia's "Instant Replay", re-encode it with ffmpeg using h264_nvenc (so it runs on my GPU which is literally 20 times faster than rendering with a CPU), and if I do any editing for uploading, I throw some stuff together in Kdenlive. And very basic GIMP for thumbnails I also run Virtual Audio Cable to isolate game sounds for the screen recording, so I can record while listening to something running on the second monitor. I actually tried out OBS when I was trying to figure out the audio thing, but recording using it seems to use way more resources and produce worse captures. It's way more customizable, though. Shadowplay is very impressive on the technical level, but the UI is incredibly basic and you're very limited in what you can do without resorting to 3rd-party programs.
>>656134 Someone mentioned it on Youtube too but an eventual ZZZ anime should definitely have that as ED and linkrel as OP. https://youtu.be/F8LFbkYkbIw?si=m9_3psC7rZ8MPhfs ZZZ has so many good songs adjacent to it man.
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How do I get a Venus wife?
Why not just use OBS?
This one will always be the best. I hope Japanese animation studios collabs more with ZZZ.
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Erotic hag
>>656081 >>656214 Bless your soul and may the universe repay you in double >>656232 I didn't even think about it, but that's true. Come Alive would also make for a banger OP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR3z8GtJB5A
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I worry that we will never get SBilly because Sanby wasn't received well
>>656252 Sanby did "fine" it's Hoyos own fault anyway that she was shoehorned into 1.0's story, they love Billy they won't hold that against him
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>>656252 I don't know Billy gets some crazy stuff
>>656156 Out of 1
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>>656252 >I worry that we will never get SBilly because Sanby wasn't received well We definitely will since they teased him like crazy, I also think we'll get an S rank Nicole given how popular she is and how she's sorta hinted to be involved in exaltist background minutia. I think it's gonna wait till we go back to the outer ring for whatever reason.
>>656200 Forgive?
>>656253 corin died
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>>656269 turn around and maybe
Roll status?
>>656248 What's up with the Alice meme anyway? What's an "Alice" (noun)? I only know the one from NIKKE and the one from Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete and they they couldn't be further from each other. Maybe that the both live in la-la-land and makes everyone else entertain their fantasy?
>>656284 They have the same VA and their names are the same.
>>656282 im rolling you, you dumb stinky raccoon bitch, but only to make my bunny the strongest
>>656282 no rolls for yuzuha
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>>656284 Don't worry about it
>>656282 Skip unless Orpheus is a fire anomaly for some reason.
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>>656282 >>656288 This but to make the uncharacteristically cheerful OL the strongest. She's been homeless since I started playing Mono-Ice and Mihoyo just refuses to make electric-weak content.
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ok but how does she breath outside of water?
>>656299 >Shirt Sniffer has escalated to screen licking
>>656297 I read the third image as BONER!
>>656307 who are you talking about
>>656297 >like playing SAnby >want to roll Yanagi >both will be competing for token electric stage we get per cycle >in some cases they have to compete with Yixuan (UCC for example) Hollow Zero is fun but still, bleh
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Her game Her world
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Testing
>>656325 I don't care how much hoyo shoves her down my throat I won't ever care about astra
>>656325 The song was good, I don't know if this is her game though
>>656282 like 120 pulls when 2.1 starts, I will wait for 2.2 drip to know if I spend all my savings on yuzuha and nagi's engine or wait for orphie.
>>656261 Holy fuck that's good.
>>656325 ok now you need to make a webm of Astra dancing from the last hoyofair song. shes got moves man
>>655781 Holy shit I did it. I broke 40k. I even reached the same point of the fight. I guess different mobs have different point values.
>>656327 He tested. Looks good
Vivian should have a hat honestly
>>656325 astra's harem...
>>656228 It's been so long since I used ffmpeg for anything I had to redownload just to remember how to use it, I was trying to condense recording with random online tools I everything kpet getting churned into low bitrate slop. Helped a lot thank you.
>>656308 >>656299 i really hope this is not balloon anon screen bibi could get an infection
>>656282 >brat >JK >limited support >anomaly specialist >shoes so SEX they almost warrant a spoiler Why the fuck would I NOT roll for her? My chromes are hers. Hopefully she picks up tha phon early so I can get her bestie, too.
>>656327 thank you for funding my game
>>656320 I use Sanby for her fun match ups, she slaps the shit out of Typhon since he's such a dodge heavy fight. I'd say just use Nagi for the fights Sanby isn't a great matchup for like that fucker chicken robot. That's the nice part about having bigger roster, right tool for the right job so to speak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlNHLMsHtEc >Why worship gods or the Buddha? >Whether good or evil, what goes around comes around >And be it fortune or misfortune, we invite it upon ourselves >So come, let me show you the way
Is S11 still good for clearing DA/Shiyu going forward?
Did the f*rry video get uploaded yet? I want to see if it's getting bashed.
>>656282 20 rainbow tape around 10k polychrome planning to roll Miyabi instead of Alice/Yuzuha because i don't have Miyabi
>>656365 It's fine Corin pre-cleaned it for her.
>>656360 I am glad he only keeps the hat for his intro, but I agree it looks better on her. It's a real shame Vivian didn't retain her pre Phaethon gushery persona.
>>656377 anime ED ahh dance
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>>656282 The only way she gets pulled is if Orphie is fire anomaly for some reason instead of rupture or attacker
>>656377 >wise can barely keep up lol good shit anon ty
>>656291 >>656395 They HATE anomaly!
Astra is the canon wife of this game and I'm done pretending.
>>656405 if you say this Vivian will lose her shit
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>>656405 how dare you drop such a truthnuke...
Do you think every giga shilled void-hunter level agent is going to be a DPS? Or are we gonna get a super stunner or super support?
>>656282 6k poly, 10 and some change tickets, about 20 something pulls in lightcone currency. Got like 1.8k mono too but that's for a skin. Hoping for an early Yuzuha.
Behold! The Cunning Hares trashing Palicus in 1m30s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvuWOPxRNNU
>>656416 Maybe a support but there is no way in hell we are getting a void hunter stunner. People would either complain that they're off-field or that they have to play a on-field stunner when they could be playing their dps instead
>>656416 >super stunner or super support ZZZ is the first gacha I've ever played, so I'm a bit curious if that's a thing they do in the industry. I'd assume these hyped up types of characters are always going to be a DPS.
>>656416 I mean Astra is already a giga support tbdesu I can't see them going beyond that without fucking up the games balance
>>656430 I can't imagine how they could make a void hunter support without throwing powerscaling out of the window since Astra, and now Yuzuha, are INCREDIBLY broken.
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>>656432 There will be support/stunner void hunters at some point. 2/6 of Jenshin's void hunters equivalent has been supports, but yes the gigashill units typically lean DPS
>>656430 I think it's kind of the opposite scenario actually. Imagine a stronger buffer stunner that mogs Lighter that also attacks from off-field and stuns as fast as Koleda when they're on field and makes the stun window giga crazy with effects all over the place somehow. That would be a unit you could feel. I'm not sure how they do a support that feels like a void hunter though. Astra and Yuzuha are probably better units than Miyabi or Yixuan but they don't FEEL crazy strong, they just giga inflate your score
>>656450 >how they do a support that feels like a void hunter easy, it'll be astra kit + competent off field dps in one
>>656416 Super support: Character has decent damage and the support is buffs + them constantly doing aftershock attacks Like if you want an example of this happening in another gacha there is Feng Xun from dislyte is a support that does give a ton of buffs but also deals a ton of damage since whenever a character on the team does a basic attack he follows up with his own and one of his buffs make basic attacks do extra % damage so he is constantly attacking and buffing Super Stunner: On Field stunner that when they trigger stun they deal a ton of damage and when you switch to a stun timer dps the stunner still attacks for a bit like Pan So like a stunner that treats the stun bar like an anomaly bar
>>656405 TROOOOOOTH NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE
Astra just bought your human rights
After multiple months of farming, I finally got an upgrade for my mibibi. She now has 34 subs. I can't believe we're about to enter 2.1 and still don't have substat rerollers or the ability to pick subs with tuning calibrators.
Will shartstra reactivate her twitter account for 2.1? She has a cameo im the main quest yeah?
>>656473 Silly Astra we are in chinkland we don't have human rights to begin with
>>656349 Congrats, bro! Cool to know it was possible!
>>656376 Works on my machine.
>>656467 >>656416 >super stunner gets released >now you have to roll for him
Harim is....still good?
>>656475 GG Mine is stuck at 29, B&B discs hate me. >I can't believe we're about to enter 2.1 and still don't have substat rerollers I'm saving all my good discs with shitty rolls in hopes they release something like this
>>656486 >super stunner triggers totalize themselves It's over for Hugod pullers in 3.5
>>656481 Thanks. Since I didn't even kill the Golden Boss, I think 42k (or whatever points the Gold Boss gives + 40k) is possible. I reached my personal goal though so I'm content and I can say I'm the King of Golden Inferno in /zzz/.
>>656489 hmmmmmm nyo
void hunter defender when
>>656499 c'est fini
>>656497 My Eve is sitting at 32 and has multiple potential god discs that got mid rolls, if they ever add that stupid reroller I could slowly work her up to 40 without swapping out a single disc.
>>656489 S11 without Lighter feels like shit desu, I can barely 20k Pompey. There's just not enough Burn uptime when it matters. >bro your Burni- Eats through her meter like a bitch without her sig, and then you're without Burn for even longer than if you just used Lucy (who also feels bad to play with), no thanks.
>>656510 We can only hope. I ask for it to be implemented every patch survey
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i keep clicking on /gfg/ instead because of the fucking OP image
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Do I get rerun Miyabi or save for a new future DPS
>>656552 >bites and bruises Is this what they call "toxic yuri"?
>>656567 Do you have mibibi?
why cant 2.1 drop tomorrow....
>>656571 Nyo...
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>>656217 her nobility is extremely dense so she needs less boobage for storage
>>656575 Then pull if you can. Especially since you have m6 Soukaku and Lycaon. Also you might want her engine if you can afford it. Of course it all depends on your savings.
>>656569 normal lesbian relationship
>>656575 >all those level 1s dude get them to first ascension for the reels!
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>>656362 I do something like this for the videos I post here .\ffmpeg.exe -ss 00:05:47.265 -to 00:09:56.756 -i lost_void_activity_15_s11.mp4 -c:v h264_nvenc -vf "scale=-1:540" -preset slow -tune ll -profile:v high -rc:v vbr -2pass true -multipass fullres -cq:v 41 -b:v 0 -y lost_void_activity_15_s11_compressed.mp4 and .\ffmpeg.exe -ss 00:05:47.265 -to 00:09:56.756 -i lost_void_activity_15_s11.mp4 -c:v h264_nvenc -preset slow -tune ll -profile:v high -rc:v vbr -2pass true -multipass fullres -cq:v 15 -b:v 0 -y lost_void_activity_15_s11_cut.mp4 for stuff I'll be editing. For WEBMs I have a bit more robust PowerShell scripts because of the size file limitations on 4chins # General .mp4 to .webm vp9 conversion: $in= "shiyu_mid_may_meebs_final.mp4" $out= "shiyu_mid_may_meebs_final.webm" $scale= "scale=-1:540" $start= ([timespan]"00:07:12.881") $finish=([timespan]"00:08:02.947") $ss=$start.toString("hh\:mm\:ss\.fff") $to=$finish.toString("hh\:mm\:ss\.fff") $size = 33000000 / ($finish.totalSeconds - $start.totalSeconds) .\ffmpeg.exe -ss $ss -to $to -i $in -c:v libvpx-vp9 -vf $scale -threads 16 -tile-columns 4 -tile-rows 2 -row-mt 1 -pix_fmt yuv420p -frame-parallel 0 -auto-alt-ref 6 -lag-in-frames 25 -b:v $size -an -sn -y -f webm -pass 1 NUL && .\ffmpeg.exe -ss $ss -to $to -i $in -c:v libvpx-vp9 -vf $scale -threads 16 -tile-columns 4 -tile-rows 2 -row-mt 1 -pix_fmt yuv420p -frame-parallel 0 -auto-alt-ref 6 -lag-in-frames 25 -b:v $size -an -sn -y -f webm -pass 2 $out # Recommended for shorter webms. CRF below 20 seems to be where the diminishing returns kick in. # vp9 CRF(0-63, recommended range is 15-35, lower is better, 31 is the recommended value baseline for 1080p) instead of a targeted bitrate: $in= "ucc_experience.mp4" $out= "ucc_experience.webm" $scale= "scale=-1:540" $start= ([timespan]"00:10:06.515") $finish=([timespan]"00:10:30.515") $ss=$start.toString("hh\:mm\:ss\.fff") $to=$finish.toString("hh\:mm\:ss\.fff") $crf = 55 .\ffmpeg.exe -ss $ss -to $to -i $in -c:v libvpx-vp9 -vf $scale -threads 16 -tile-columns 4 -tile-rows 2 -row-mt 1 -pix_fmt yuv420p -frame-parallel 0 -auto-alt-ref 6 -lag-in-frames 25 -b:v 0 -crf $crf -an -sn -y -f webm -pass 1 NUL && .\ffmpeg.exe -ss $ss -to $to -i $in -c:v libvpx-vp9 -vf $scale -threads 16 -tile-columns 4 -tile-rows 2 -row-mt 1 -pix_fmt yuv420p -frame-parallel 0 -auto-alt-ref 6 -lag-in-frames 25 -b:v 0 -crf $crf -an -sn -y -f webm -pass 2 $out For GIFs I use this: .\ffmpeg -i jufufu_pat.mp4 -filter_complex "[0:v] fps=30, scale=-1:540:flags=lanczos,split [a][b];[a] palettegen=stats_mode=diff [p];[b][p] paletteuse=dither=none" jufufu_pat.gif For APNGs it's very similar .\ffmpeg -i bookaku.gif -f apng -plays 0 -filter_complex "[0:v] fps=25, scale=220:-1:flags=lanczos,split [a][b];[a] palettegen=stats_mode=diff [p];[b][p] paletteuse=dither=none" -y bookaku.apng You can crop using ffmpeg, albeit GUI editors are certainly better suited for that. For example, the following crops a 1200x900 rectangle with its top-left corner starting starting at ''600 pixels to the left of the half of the width line and 350 pixels above the half of the height line". .\ffmpeg.exe -ss 00:00:03.366 -to 00:00:09.589 -i spooky_bears.mp4 -c:v h264_nvenc -preset lossless -vf "crop=1200:900:(in_w/2)-600:(in_h/2)-350" -y spooky_bears_cut.mp4 And to remove black bars from the official ZZZ videos .\ffmpeg.exe -i jufufu.webm -c:v h264_nvenc -filter:v "crop=in_w:in_h-270:0:135:exact=1" -y jufufu_crop.mp4 Resolutions that aren't divisible by 2 isn't actually the proper way of doing it, and it can create one pixel-tall line of slight color artifacts, but it's imperceivable and it fully matches the actual size of the video.
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Sex status?
>>656604 Why is she always laughing bitch whats so funny!!!!
>>656596 IM IN A DENNYS RECESSION PLS UNDERSTAND >>656586 Uhh I have 3 pulls and some chromosomes, Yi Xuan and Jufufu drained me
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>>656516 >There's just not enough Burn uptime when it matters. She has 70% uptime solo with Rocketboo thoughbeit. Stop getting hit. S11/Burnice/Lucy is certainly a very potent combo. You don't need to run specifically Lighter, even if he's currently BiS. Astra, Caesar, Trigger, and Jufufu are all great with S11. Failing that, just double-support (i.e. Lucy + Nicole or Rina) and some decent discs will get you comfortably over 20k.
>>656609 Ok so no you don't want to pull because you are currently at the risk of losing the 50/50. Unless you plan to swipe, you are better of saving and skipping one patch. It sucks, but it is what it is.
i need a hug
>>656616 how cutely would she react if you suddenly whispered in her ear
>>656616 trigger needs the hug more
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>try to do this Shiyu with S11 and Zhu teams >go over 5 minutes on 7 because side 1 is too fucking fat and my Harin does no damage even when slamming away at a stunned opponent >have to press the Eve and Mibibi buttons for S rank
>>656615 Do we have any leaks for 2.2?
*Rero rero*
>>656625 im a 25 year old huglesscel i need it pretty bad
I can't match the S11 autists Shiyu time with my Eve team, it's over.
Shameless redhead
>>656552 I will never get this pairing Even if we’re limiting it to y*ritroonism, Zhu is a much better option in every possible way
hoyofair mvs refueling my love for the game
>>656564 You mean the dog AU right?
>>656569 https://dcvlp.org/domestic-violence-peaks-more-than-ever-for-the-lgbtqia-community/ >Around 44% of lesbian and 61% of bisexual women have experienced forms of rape and physical violence by an intimate partner as compared to 35% of straight women. HAH <sweat provoking image
He's starting to believe
>>656639 do you have the Koikatsu card?
oh wait its on kemono, all good >>656650
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Why didn't they didn't give the reruns a skin
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Is it realistic to hope that the mecha event is a test run for Seed and that he'll have the clunkiness and miniguns and flamethrower and missiles? >>656660 The totally legit Mibibi leaked skin will be a surprise when 2.1 drops, trust the plan
>>656663 >Is it realistic to hope You can always have hope bro
We love Trigger We love Harin We love Orphie We love Twiggy
>>656679 twiggy was a bitch and mindfucked harin and tried to traumatize anby fuck her. girl A mogs
>>656686 Twiggy just needed huge load of cum filling her womb to fix her (mine specifically, all evil women will be redeemed by my penis.)
>>656663 It's gonna be a loli and she will use her mecha only during ult animation. Have fun bro.
can i speed through the mecha event starting now? took a nap and realized late
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Stupid sexy tiger
>>656702 You can finish it in less than 2 hours even while reading the dialogue. It's good.
>>656707 okay thanks
>>656702 The dialogue is actually funny in that one so it would be a shame to skip
...Silver will rise again.
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I'm gonna have to skip 2.1 for Oprhie after Jufufu DRAINED me, but it just, it feels so fucking GAY, its painful. Like the devs specifically said: "hallo gweilo you giv money, we gib big tiddy swimsuit girls, yessss?" And now I'm gonna have to reject their kindness because Thirens are too sexy for my own good. I'm sorry Dawei, forgiv me.
>>656753 skipping is a choice there is always THAT
>>656753 Man I feel you, but I almost want to skip next patch because I'm so bummer about not getting Fufu. I don't have time to reach pity again and I can't whale either.
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>>656708 awaken my masters
>Section 6.. Operation start! I miss her so much bwos.
>>656753 >And now I'm gonna have to reject their kindness because Thirens are too sexy for my own good. you are right
>>656759 I buy the 999999% VALUE packs that they release twice a year and the monthly 5 Dollar tip to China. But, even with the first time double, the normal prices for chromes are an open scam designed to optimize whale draining. Even Nicole wouldn't do something like that, she has a soul.
>>656753 this but just jufufu if i grab the fufu my m2 koleda is worthless and for when i build my shifu my m6 pulchra will also be worthless and i havent built either of them much at all so i unfortunately must skip the sovlful fatfuck chinese movie tard
Lycaon lost both of his legs and an eye. Caesar lost her left arm. Trigger "lost" both of her eyes. Ben and Koleda(?) lost an eye. Yanagi occasionaly losing her sight.
>>656783 Katawa Zone Zero
>>656783 No mention of Corin?
>>656635 weak numbers get to 30
>>656786 She got her arm chopped off bro.
>>656785 Corn is racist
>>656789 oh, didn't notice that. think it's got reattached
>>656757 child
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>>656785 corn check
>>656794 And we have still zero explanation for that. I wonder what kind of horrible story they are gonna do for her.
>>656707 Bangboo mech might be top 3 events for me ngl, it's exactly what I'm looking for in ZZZ, just a small excursion that involves (You) and the Agent cast doing some shit that's not looking for your teacher. It builds up the world, makes you more attached to the characters, and also interactions between factions are kino. >Movie event >Golden Week >Bangboo Mech Honorable mention is Fishing event and Bangboo Pokemon beauty contest because the gameplay itself is shit but the character interactions are elite, and Melinoe for the exact opposite reason (gameplay is banger but it should've involved NEPS interacting with S6).
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Is it taboo to say I wish this game had Wuwa's 100% weapon banner...
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>>656789 >>656794 poor corn now i wanna give her head pats and make her feel better
>>656810 if youre a hsrg schizo that says >generous = bad and begging but most players want that so its a fine thought to have
>>656807 her best friend sacrificed herself to save corn, her heart keeps corn alive in her teddy bear
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>>656811 She just wants to be loved. Do your part
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How many Dennies would I need to pay Nicole to get her to sit on my face?
>>656810 As an end consumer sure i want that too As an experienced gacha player I know that 100% weapon banner will come back to bite in the form of powercreep/increased rolling demand There's no free lunch in this genre And if there are, they EOS like Tribe9 I don't mind a little bit of company greed if it meant the business can sustain itself for decades I'm not interested in games that can't support themselves and EOS in 2 years
>>656810 Doesn't Wuwa give less rolls in general?
>>656807 >a critical illness and underwent major surgery probably some kind of accident involving her friend/sister and organ transplantation to save corin's life.
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Sarah when?
>>656829 >corin before her terminally ill friend gave her all of her body parts for her to "live for the both of us"
>>656810 The gap between F2P weapons and sigs is much more pronounced in Wuwa. So much so that people are expected to pull a sig for the real character experience
>>656826 IIRC no, however they do use an entirely different currency to roll for weapons (think how there are master tapes and encrypted master tapes, in WuWa they have a third type of wish material exclusively for weapons) >>656825 I don't know. I've always been curious just how necessary much of the predatory practices common to gacha are really required to make a profit. No doubt about it the system works, but I'm half wondering if a less greedy gacha could still be profitable via incentivizing rolling for skins or cosmetics as opposed to characters and weapons. That, or just make the rates less abusive.
>>656829 Wasn't she making her painting for the person she's talking about during this event?
qingyi
>>656834 That's how Girls Frontline did it for the first game but that game never made fat stacks the way other gachas did.
>>656831 This image hurts me immensely but it really is beautifully drawn.
>>656839 True, but the first Girls Frontline was also your standard gacha paper doll simulator. 3rd Impact and by extension Genshin were novelties.
>>656834 > I'm half wondering if a less greedy gacha could still be profitable via incentivizing rolling for skins or cosmetics as opposed to characters and weapons That's Girls Frontline (1, idk about 2). Mats for pulling characters were bountiful for F2P, but the ones for skins were super rare. Also, there were a ton of base upgrades that made the game more convenient to play which were locked behind rarer currencies.
>>656834 >predatory practices common to gacha are really required to make a profit generally proportional to devs' ambition as well as their operating budget. i'm not saying i agree with the practices as an end consumer, but having worked a couple management jobs in the past i understand. there's never enough cashflow. and if you think you have enough, you don't.
>>656845 2 basically copied the Hoyoverse model with slightly cheaper rolls and a better shop for dupe items.
>>656841 Honestly I saw the "before image" and it didn't affect me as much as this image and the implication of a tortured child. Shit sucks man.
>>656848 Oh certainly, I'm not saying I don't understand why the business model is the way that it is, just vainly wishing that some other devs might try a more novel approach. I do find it interesting how there is a delicate balance in keeping players around. That one gacha dress up game royally screwed the pooch by ramping up the greed after its initial success, so there's clearly a delicate balance in being juuust predatory enough that you still get your pound of flesh while having enough incentives to keep players around.
>>656836 i-i don't know i just started around Vivian's banner
>>656854 Oh yeah I forgot there was a before image. Christ.
>>656810 the downside is that characters feel a LOT worse in wuwa if you're coping with standard 5* weapons just pulled lupa and figured this out the hard way (even though I already knew this would happen)
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>>656810 not sure? though W-Engine can also be considered "weapon banner"
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>>656863 She has a perfect design all the way down to hooved boots. Lucy might be the best designed character in all ZZZ.
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Which size /zzz/ ?
>>656873 these captions are off by 1 letter grade
>>656873 It isn't about size, it's about shape. Vivian, Burnice, Corin, and Koleda have the sexiest tits in the game
>>656863 I live here
>>656873 I like them all
>>656863 >>656881 I want to fuck Lucy so fucking bad.
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>>656655 shuckable corn
>>656873 I have no idea what any of these letters mean, do any of them have L cups?
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>>656863 >grizzrypanda fuckjing unobtanium gks fuckajsclakjcslajcs
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>>656887 Same. Her design is so fucking good.
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>>656888 do NOT shuck your corn
Man this is such a good feature
>>656910 let me guess, hoyolab BUT you have to download the app for pur metrics gweilo?
>>656235 Sex with Venus by putting my dick in her anus
>>656810 I dunno if it's taboo here but whenever I mention any Hoyo game stuff in /wuwa/ on this site, my post gets instantly deleted.
HOLY
>>656940 thanks for the code
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Im not happy
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Can't wait for fencing kino with titty bnnuy .
Boo Tao = Kama After Not Surviving
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Hoyo should make Mimo codes shareable once. It would create a massive amount of inter-community communication. Damn, I'm so smart.
Who should I roll? Brat - 1d100 = 19 Bunny - 1d100 = 79 Melon - 1d100 = 85 OL - 1d100 = 65
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>>656951 melon
>>656912 It's just a web page bwo
>>656810 I'd rather we get some reasonable F2P cope engines. The Caesar cope engine was a step in the right direction but its effect was so negligible it's practically the same as using a Stunner ball anyway.
>>656971 I think engines being hyper specific and damn near useless on anyone but the specific character they're for is something I dont like about ZZZ. I think ZZZ has this problem way worse than genshin or HSR
Every man's dream
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>>656860 I mean that really depends. Lupa specifically is only 12% off the standard banner 5* according to the only numbercruncher I trust to be accurate. This is teamwide damage, which is more relevant for subDPS focused on buffing like her. If you look at the individual damage boost from signature for DPS in both games over their best f2p option, you're gonna get pretty similar numbers in my experience. Rarely something in the teens, usually something in the twenties, occasionally jumping up to 30% or so for a handful of DPS. SubDPS weapons are harder to compare across games.
>>657011 >You will never have Wise's head in your lap
Still annoyed Nagi isnt first half
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16
>>656903 that corn is shucked thougheverbeit?
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Why is ZZZ En better than genshart EN?
kill thiggers
>>657079 Fontaine's EN VA's are very good, spookshack EN feels amateur except Koamano.
>>657079 Better studio, better directors. Most dubs either over or underdeliver lines, either because of lacking or overzelous direction. Most of the time it isn't even a problem with the actor. But the dub voice directors for ZZZ have a style of directing somewhere in the middle, where they know what they want the character to sound like, but let the actor give ideas and multiple different takes, and it leads to nicer, more natural sounding lines as a result. All this to say that having Furina's VA as the voice director improves basically 90% of dubs.
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Marry, fuck, kill You know the drill
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i'm noooooooticing a manufactured dub melty
I am really drnk right now so I will not try io participate in thread I like to oberbe it but I wold like to see a lot of good corin and soukaku images as hey increase my dopamine. I enjoy hese characters
>>657111 no i was just watching a triggre thing and it was EN dub and i noticed it wasnt shit wheras i cant stand genshins en dub i still use JP for both either way
A wabbit
>>657109 Marry Ellen (I want to fuck her more than once), Fuck Neko (I want to fuck her), kill Jane (she tries too hard).
ACAB
>>657123 my reaction as well to booba
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>>657109 Kill Neko (she has 9 lives so its ok) Fuck Jane Marry Ellen
>>657109 they all seem like terrible wives tbhdesu
>>657109 kill, kill, kill
>Friend of mine almost quit this game because he lost the 50/50 on Lighter >Tell him to relax and just wait on Fufu >he does >he struggles for a little bit but eventually he finally gets jufufu >begins to play the game again happy Iam convinced that 50/50s should be removed makes me wonder how many poor souls legit letf this game because lady luck decided to be a cunt.
I asked copilot to find the best ZZZ wife and it created some new agents for us
>>657149 50/50 is a rite of passage if they can't survive a 50/50 then they weren't going to stick around anyway
corns corner
>>657152 50/50 winloss should never dip below 50% problems solvedd
>>657149 I know for a fact there's guys who insta quit the game if they get the furfag wolf because my friend is one of them. To be fair, I was exactly the same with Yanqing (HSR) and Lingyang (Wuwa). By the time I actually got knotted mono-ice miyabi was at its peak and I was actually glad to have him on board. I would've definitely quit if I got him day 1 over the two picrel though lmao.
>>657149 >>657152 50/50 is just a brain power test. Do you have enough IQ to understand that if you want a character you should go in with 180 pulls? If you fail that test you are simply a retard, in the medical sense.
>>657166 That'd sure be nice.
Bibi was classmates with Zhu, is she a hag?
>>656834 >I'm half wondering if a less greedy gacha could still be profitable I saw someone say that the ZZZ team has around 1000 employees. Hoyoverse is definitely paying competitive rates, otherwise it wouldn't be one of the top companies in China right now. Just plug in your favorite Competitive Salary™ numbers and estimate how much they need to pay their employees every month. If we assume everyone's getting paid the same wage as an american burger flipper (google says $7.25), then it costs them at least $1m per month to maintain the game. You can probably just double it to include other costs. Computers and etc definitely cost more than the average flipper slave but hey, it's something.
>>657152 >>657169 hes kinda an Ultra casual, he doesnt even have a full team leveled completely and hes a complete free to play, Iam sure with Fufu now though he has a reason to actually start playing again.
Does Ju Fufu's popcorn shit count as a chain attack for the purpose of activating King of the Summit? Or is she subject to the same energy regen gate like every other stunner?
>>657177 I've also heard hoyo is overloaded with laptop women do nothings that siphon shekels
>>657182 The aftershock chain attack does, yes. The popcorn autos don't. She has no effort permanent uptime on the buff regardless.
SHE DID THE THING
>>657182 Depends on the W Engine youre running, if you're running her Wengine you Run King of Summit and Swing Jazz, if you're Running Hellfire Gears its King of Summit and Shockstar
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>>657173 Zhu is 24, it's reasonable to assume Mibibi is around there. If you mean hag (4chan) then nyes. If you mean hag (real) then nyo. That's limited to Yanagi, Trigger, Paipah, Qingyi, Shifu, and Rina. Honestly not sure if Rina is even a hag. She looks and acts like one, but her agent story implies she's far (age wise) from the health complications granny and the other hags have.
https://youtu.be/yP9IkULb7KQ?rWdR0M3yPZUikvNb I'm guessing this is something from the livestream or Hoyofair? Either way I love this.
>>657204 >im older than zhu and bibi now this is depressing news
>>657195 That's our king.
>>657210 Yeah it's from the 2.1 livestream.
>>657204 My headcanon is that Rina's like Akane in BA and just looks old but is actually really young
>>657214 same but i do feel younger, mentally therefore they are hags
>>657149 buddy fully dropped the game due to lack of idols but he likely didnt play the bangboo mecha event nor got invested into bibian cause holy shit the mecha event was sovlful as fuck now i wish i didnt do it so late as i couldve fucked around with other builds
>>657217 I really do love that they make shit like this, it's so charming.
>>657219 i-i just (re)started uni,,, im young!
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>>657177 A member of hoyo's board said genshin cost 200M a year to keep running back in2021 when they released inazuma and were working on sumeru. We know that genshin is their most expensive game to keep running because the devs have complained about it repeatedly but if we assume the size of the team is proportional to operating costs and you use 2023's genshin dev team to work out 2024/25 zzz operating costs. >(200M/3185)*1059 = 66.5M a year
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I want to taste this rabbit
>>657169 unfortunately, retards fund the game and dawei's waifu instrumentality project, so they need to be kept around. but I'd bet that hoyo has data that shows that the dopamine hit from winning the 50/50 keeps more retards around than they lose when the retards lose the coinflip and uninstall
is my evelyn fine nao?
>>657177 >392 (-102) They really did abandon Kiana, she used to be the face of the company...
>>657204 My younger-but-still-peer-aged copwife
unshucked corn
>>657182 her chain attacks are not based on her energy but her heat gauge and she spends her heat doing the chain attack >>657169 assume 160, 90 is rare and you have rolls refunded
>>657216 Too bad her trike is retarded, as all trikes are. mobility scooter lmao get a real bike
>>657169 nah, id win
>best miyabi team is a burnice team how come, everyone told me burnice is a t2 crept brick
>>657242 >hormone meh >not 75% crit rate meh >only 136 crit dmg before sig effect okayyish
>>657257 It's almost like you don't know how to read stats.
>>657257 Anyone that thinks Burnice waa powercrept has a gross wrinkly brain, when she requires one that's as smooth as a river stone for best results. Yuzuha's gonna make her even better.
>>657257 Overvaluing Vivians abloom, it's great with Jane and good with Yanagi but Miyabi doesn't really benefit.
>>657245 They're definitely on the new team that's working on Honkai All Stars.
>>657204 how old are the Hags again? 30s? 40?
>>657231 >A member of hoyo's board said genshin cost 200M a year to keep running back in 2021 Does it include the development costs of the game? 200M alone for just the server seems expensive. That's almost the development costs GTA 5 alone.
>>657265 >FOOD did mizubear and fatxiao collab on that one
>>657257 its more so it requires the least autism? cause if you know the ins and outs of the mono ice team you can boss kill but needs ball? >>657261 please understand havent gone to the disk mines yet >>657255 nah id lose
>>657275 You wish. She is in her late 50s
Who's rockin this v6 adv? they winning the paris-dakar knockoff
>>657278 I don't care how old Grandma Piper is, I would still marry her.
>>657273 a developer who worked for hoyo's toronto studio back then said that they were ridiculously wasteful in just about every aspect, so I wouldn't be surprised if their cloud spend was not tightly monitored, and that shit can easily rocket out of control if you don't have tight controls on it
>>657284 >toronto montreal*
>>657281 Man I really want some kind of racing event, I like the vehicle designs in this game. >>657282 My middle-aged truck driver can't possibly be this cute and funny.
holy based
>>657284 That just translates to me as "they allocate a shit ton of budget for everybody". Now why can't they make more comic sections instead of black screen white text?
I recently played PGR again after a long ass time and feel like I finally managed to draw a proper comparison between the two games. ZZZ's combat feels like there's definitely some layers to it. Energy regeneration as well as, to some extent, rotations. While newer characters have some iframes, you still want to actually look at the screen and play in a somewhat responsive manner. It's not THAT fast paced by any means which can feel a bit weird and or annoying here and there depending on what agents you have built and how well but all things considered the slow pace is probably a good thing for what it's going for. I brought up the other game because when ZZZ first dropped I found the pace somewhat sluggish but after booting other game up again, I realized you have so many iframes and literally vomit out your rotations that you could literally play it blindfolded. Point being I think ZZZ's combat pacing, counter and energy management actually benefit the game. Even if some mobs are a bit too tanky for my personal liking, fuck the robots in particular and let me just hit both at once with Bibian and Burnice holy fucking shit.
>>657292 women. the answer is always women. hoyo is 60% women
>>657273 The game isn't finished that 200M is the cost of servers plus marketing, paying developers for new regions, characters and events and even R&D.
>>657294 i was thinking about picking it up again a month ago for the dmc collab but like i havent played any dmc game yet and saw that their new character direction was basically vfx vomit and iframe vomit as you said, having just played through the mecha event right before it ended in zzz i have to say it all felt fucking amazing to play around with
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Is Piper good for you?
>>657292 that was a few years ago. over the last year they've cut their cloud spend by 40% and have made big cuts elsewhere but yeah it would be nice to have less black screen white text, there's been a shitload of that in 2.0
Chief Heyahoa from the Casino tribe... we really are in the southwest US!
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>>657270 Trigger lost her team 11 years ago and she was an adult back then, so around 30. Yanagi was in the defense force back when Soukaku was a "toddler" (in oni years), so around 30. Shifu is less explicit but she was an adult when Suibian had that big disaster and Jufufu was recruited after that, so assuming the disaster was 10+ years ago she's around 30-40. Rina is a mystery tbh. All we know is that she graduated some botany class with Orchidea. Pipi has to be 40+ Qingyi has to be 150+, the elderly in Lumina square used to treat her like an elder.
>>657294 ZZZ combat's greatest asset is that it feels like combat, both mechanically and audio-visually. Whenever I watch something like WuWa gameplay it looks like you plunking away at enemies with zero feedback while shiny lights pop-up everywhere. Same with the new NTE, it's like you're hitting enemies with foam. And they lacks interactivity, you only dodge and use skills while the enemy does its own thing. When you fight in ZZZ, your camera is mostly closer to your character and not zoomed out, feeling more personal. When you parry something, it goes right next to your character and the whole camera shakes signifying the weight of the blow you parried. It's satisfying to look and participate at. Everything has weight to it, with your attacks included. Adding the whole parry mechanic carried most of the combat feel.
>do Fufu mini quests >
>>657311 Hell yeah
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>>657311 they know
I'm very bad at timing Yixuan parries.
>>657311 The phone is linging, gweilo.
>>657311 Why did I read the duns in the among us jingle...
>>657324 I wish sex was real
I know sales speculation is popular but... all I know is the company growth has been getting popular each and every year. I've tried Honkai impact 3rd day 1 on release back in 2018. Zero clue what MiHoYo was. Thought it was some Japanese anime game company. Nowadays, my North American University (a decently accredited one) has internship programs and hirings for HoyoVerse which is pretty shocking to see since not many Chinese companies offer this. I've also traveled to JP last year and Shanghai this year and you can visually see the impact that company has had on these global hubs. I know they're also expanding HQs and the Montreal one is NA's first but in LA, if you talk a stroll in any of the anime shop streets or corners you'll be bond to see Hoyoverse related things. Haven't even discussed the nuclear reactors or CCP backed funding for anime culture media they recently got.
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>>657330 The juxtaposition of communist energy with big Chinese corporations will never stop being funny to me. >nuclear reactors Wait what?
>>657337 Communist symbols I mean. But yeah Hoyoverse is China's Nintendo at this point.
bwos...
>>657340 Huh. And fusion experiments too. We live in a very silly world.
>>657328 I wish Piper was real
I'm tired of trying to get these 2 sluts to group up
I need Sweety...
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>>657352 >>hormone punk
>>657330 hmm, but according to this sales chart (Estimation by unrelated 3rd party, mobile only, iOS only) mihoyo revenue has been going down since zzz released???
Who are some good zzz youtubers to watch? I need some content [JP preferred]
they've been quietly snatching up NA talent, mostly for senior positions and artists with eastern aesthetics backgrounds/extensive portfolios
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I'm once again asking for Mibibi skin
>>657363 https://www.youtube.com/@UchuNico >Not interested in other Hoyo games >Streams >Covers meta, builds, lore and world building >Makes shorts >Genuinely loves ZZZ >Smallish viewership (can get to the few 100s)
>>657370 >>657364 Thanks bros
>>657366 Man I wish game development wasn't so tied to absolute shithole cities in NA.
>>657373 That's just how it is for tech in NA
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>>657373 Yeah. At least there's more remote work opportunities now for people who don't wanna move.
>>657380 Meant for >>657376
>>657373 Almost all big games over a past few years were not developed in america.
Nothing good will ever come out of America as long as it is (((infected)))
>>657348 Piper is the hottest ZZZ woman without any competition.
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>>656072 Done, hate being sick
HOLLOW ZERO TASK FORCE WITH THE 8 IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE
One thing I like about this game is that they have integrated beta tests into the gameplay loop with the hollow zero agent resonium. I just wish the agents would get these benefits outside of HZ
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>>657395 Beat level 12 first with your strongest team and then pick the easiest 8 burdens when you run with the task force team.
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>>657395 you must go further beyond
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>cool art of Fufu and Mana >scroll down >massive futa cocks *sigh*
>>657395 What >>657402 this guy said. Shifu makes it a cakewalk but if you don't have her, then maybe use teh trial version. There's a lot of easy ether activities, but it's kinda hard to do if you pick the worst burdens. I always grab the shop ones, the ones where you heal on hit but get blood shops, and the time one unless I use a brick.
>>657395 Use you shifu. You don't have shifu? Use the trial one.
i tried shifu tiger astra and i still couldnt do it
>>656039 >RPAnniversary This code are no longer usable.
>>657417 Then it's a skill issue mate.
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>>657419 FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK I FORGOT TO USE IT
I cant fucking dodge with trial Yanagi ever she takes massive hits every time
>>657409 Link? Sounds like something for me
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>>657431 Have you tried pressing the Dash button when you're about to get hit?
>>657428 The brick council always have open seat for the taking.
>>657434 YEAH AND SHE JUST FUCKING STANDS THERE
>>657431 >dodging with Yanagi Lmao.
THE RAT JUST FUCKING DIED TO SOME INVISIBLE SHIT FUCK THIS GAME AHHHHH
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>>657436 Ah, I see your problem. Remember the melty about SAnby's dodges not working? You're experiencing something similar, but unlike with pre-fix SAnby, you can actually reasonably work with it. The game blocks your ability to dash during some of the invincible moves, and doesn't really provide any sort of a special input buffer that would allow you to queue a Dash well in advance of the move ending. So, if you're doing one of Yanagi's invulnerable moves, like her Special, her side-switch BA, her huge jump BA, etc., and you try to press dash during the move, it won't come out. So, if you're coming out of such a move, and you're about to get hit, and you press Dash with the usual timing that would otherwise normally get you a Perfect Dodge, you might get fuck all instead. For those cases, just remember what moves have this property and either learn the timing of i-frames ending, or, which is way easier, just mash the dodge button. Like, not in general, but when you see this specific scenario - you're in an invincible move, you're about to come out of it, and you're about to get hit. The regular input buffer window is large enough that if you mash, you're almost guaranteed to get Dash on the first possible frame.
>>657348 artist that doesn't even know what the inside of a car looks like complaining about AI...
>>657442 I see why I didn't see it, he didn't use the japanese tag for ZZZ ゼンレスゾーンゼロ. Pixivs tag system is so dogshit, they need tag groups so all 4 or 5 ZZZ tags would all redirect to 1 to see everything >>657446 It looks good and believable, recreating things 1:1 is not mandatory if it's not your artistic goal of the piece. You don't need to draw a perfect car interior if your goal is to draw naked Piper driving. Looks good and the perspective makes her ass fatter.
>>657461 That massive carrot must've been super symmetrical to have Alice make such expression.
I love hags. Do (You)?
>>657481 Luv hags Luv cunny Luv JK Luv grannies
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14
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Love the police
>>657481 Fuck hags. Kiss hags. Mating press hags into a bed. Massage hag shoulders. Eat hag pussy. French kiss hags. Dress hags up in suits. Dress hags up in sexy cosplay. Ejaculate inside hag pussy. Princess carry a hag to the bed. Twist hag nipples. Suck hag breasts. Lick hag midriff. Encourage hags to get fit. Get hags drunk. Sloppy tongue kissing with hags. Read mature female x younger male hentai with hags. Eat hag ass. Get hags horny. Mutual masturbation with hags. Marry hags. Big wedding with hags. Break off into a 45 minute rant about how mature pussy is the best while your friends look at you like you're retarded. Ban condoms and birth control. Massage hag feet. Lick hag armpits. Fuck hags until your dick breaks. Total Hag Love
>>657461 I go through 4 tags ゼンレスゾーンゼロ 绝区零 ゼンゼロ ZenlessZoneZero
HZ Yanagi is so fucking fun with her tag-in assist whenever you trigger an anomaly, and then you can upgrade it to be able to tag back in your main carry and pass on buffs while you're on jt. It just flows so fucking well. I need this in her main kit, surely that much isn't gamebreaking at this point. *gestures at all of 2.x*
It pains me to say this, but if Orphie is a Fire Attacker/Rupture like everyone is hoping, I think I might skip her and grab Eve's engine instead.
>>657502 >like everyone is hoping I'm not, because then she won't activate Trigger's core passive and Trigger's ball will be less impactful.
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>>657514 Their crime rates.
>>657294 I just picked up PGR to give it another shot yesterday actually and I definitely agree it doesn't feel nearly as good. There's a lot of buttons and some characters do feel fun when you get used to the VFX vomit, but at the end of the day it's still rotationslop with team composition cockblocked hard by roles and elements. It's still a cut above the other action gachas, but doesn't compare to ZZZ nor Wuwa. In ZZZ parries create a very dynamic flow between the teammates that doesn't just devolve into pressing the same sequence of buttons and swapping off to the next character, energy and character-specific gauges also get filled and expended without a set rotation. In Wuwa there are still cockblocks with how a lot of characters use one damage type and buff another damage type and their element on swap or require a status effect on the enemy they can't apply, but the endgame is tuned to never require those specific comps and you can usually mix and match DPS, sub-DPS and buffers with just the right element or damage type buff, plus there's quickswap gameplay which works with almost any two or three DPS on the team. It still doesn't have as much interactivity as ZZZ because most of the time you still follow rotations and the interaction with enemies is almost always just dodging (most characters), zoning or freezing them (Carlotta, Brant, Phoebe) and only Zani has a command parry that speeds up her ult attacks and nukes the enemy stagger bar.
>>657511 She would as an attacker. Also I wouldn't expect her to be anomaly after an entire patch shilling only anomaly, but we'll see.
>>657511 If Yixuan is anything to go by Trigger could still be one of Orphie's best teammates even without her core passive. >Trigger's ball will be less impactful You roll for BALLS???
>>657524 not rolling for balls is braindead stupid behavior
>>657524 >>657534 Some agents can go without balls, like Lighter, Vivian, Astra, etc, others want or need them, like Trigger and Hugo. Really depends on who.
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Odds jff Even arisu
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>>657511 What DOES Trigger need Orpheus to be to carry her to T0 status as a team? Just Sanby with bigger numbers? Is all she needs a carry that spams EX to repeatedly proc Tartarus? >>657522 >fire attacker 5 patches after Evelyn Even Hugo had the courtesy of taking 6 patches before creeping Ellen (I think they're both T1 now actually lol), Orpheus being Attacker would be in poor taste, considering one of their guys in OBOL is also a fire attacker.
>>657545 >others want or need them, like Trigger and Hugo Works on my machine. Now would be the time to post my DA but I always procrastinate it until the last moment and the previous one didn't save in battle records
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>>657575 Hugo works great without his engine, but with it he's an entirely different beast. Same thing with Trigger, she's wonderful without it, but way better with it. There's also no real alternative core for them to use, like Yixuan, which makes it that much more powerful in comparison to guys like Lighter who can get away with Hellfire gears, or Astra who is just a stat stick for your other units.
>>657578 Why is post-prison realm Gojo fucking her?
>>657587 such is wonderland
>>657524 >>657545 >>657575 The only situations that I find pulling balls valid is if you like a character or if you want an extra edge to be competitive with newer units. Other than those, you don't really need it for any agent atm unless you're chasing DA kills, since otherwise everything is clearable with F2P options. >>657574 I don't think they care about standards that much, look at what they did to my Koleda, poor baby girl >>657582 Hugo and Yixuan work just fine on Steel Cushion though. I feel like people treat balls kinda backwards in this game. Everyone who says that Miyabi or Yixuan need their ball, but if a character is already cracked without their ball, if anything they should be the LAST one to consider pulling a ball for.
>>657578 Alice doesn't look or act this hot in game.
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>>657589 >Gojo when he's balls deep in some Thymefield-grade rabbit Thiren pussy
Holy fuck, this max ether difficulty is hard as fuck... I playing Ju Fufu/Shifu/Panda and those heals from ults saves the whole run.
Alice will kill her babies if they're not twins.
>>657601 Alice is definitely a coomer right? I mean the rabbit parallel is right there. You just know she wets her bed every day.
>>657607 She's a degenerate. She will eat her own poop too.
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Shifu sama...
>>657614 HOLY SAGGERS
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>>657582 >Hugo works great without his engine, but with it he's an entirely different beast. Same thing with Trigger, she's wonderful without it, but way better with it. That's the thing, they don't need their balls even if they outperform with them. And that's a good thing because this way balls can serve as a relatively cheap way to futureproof characters if they start falling out of meta
>>657617 >>657619 Based sag enjoyers.
>>657623 Sag thread. Sag game.
>>657595 >Everyone who says that Miyabi or Yixuan need their ball, but if a character is already cracked without their ball, if anything they should be the LAST one to consider pulling a ball for. I dunno man, I more or less said Yix is needed because there's no W engine for her outside of the new a rank one in shop and in the pass. Versus Miyabi who is already really strong and has a few decent cope options in the form of standard pulls and other a ranks. >>657595 >The only situations that I find pulling balls valid is if you like a character or if you want an extra edge to be competitive with newer units. Other than those, you don't really need it for any agent atm unless you're chasing DA kills, since otherwise everything is clearable with F2P options. Some characters just don't feel right without their balls or something close. Hugo felt good or gerat without his, but with it it's a completely different animal. Lighter is close with hellfire but it still feels more consistent with his actual ball. It's not like anomaly heroes where there's a lot of good F2P options and Grace's engine. Or with DPS that can use steel cushion or brimstone.
>>657623 She can rest those heavy milkers on my face.
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Easiest way to clear ether diff max? I'm getting filtered with Ju Fufu/Shifu/Panda...
>>657656 My rat/vivian with the trial astra was able to do it quite comfortably.
>>657630 >I dunno man, I more or less said Yix is needed because there's no W engine for her outside of the new a rank one in shop and in the pass. It's pretty much the same as Miyabi. The A-rank one is decent, and Steel Cushion is a little better. The % gap from sig is also pretty similar, about 20 to 30% depending on buffs/teammates. >Some characters just don't feel right without their balls or something close That's entirely subjective and would fall more into the "really like the agent" category, but even then like I said you still don't need them to clear.
>>657656 I stacked Ultimate resonia with Shishou. I also used the trial Fufu, but she's apparently quite weak.
>>657656 That is the easiest way to clear bro...
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>>657656 Ult gears & resonias, then just spam ults.
I dreamed that the new version dropped, but instead of getting Yuzuha and Miyabi it was just Jufufu's fat ass banner again for another patch.
>>657669 Based!
Wise is an architect, he likes his women thick.
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>>657669 It's going to happen now that you've said it.
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>>657701 >Alice cosplay >Dress is not symmetrical
>>657656 Funny enough I actually just finished it with Yi Xuan/Ju Fufu/Astra, used tag assist gear because adversity might be good for survivability but the damage is lacking. This is what worked for me: >find a shop as soon as possible and earn enough to get the agent gear there (1200?) >be comfortable with always being low health, miasma procs can't kill you by itself, focus on stacking damage buffs to hit the 3:30 time limit >use the investigation gear that cuts your health for more damage I can probably do it again with Evelyn but Anomaly is just cucked tbh.
>>657702 I don't expect most cosplayers to know anything about the characters they're cosplaying as anymore.
>>657708 Weirdly enough, porn cosplayers seem to put more effort into theirs.
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>>657710 She's right
>>657711 >Weirdly enough They make their living off of it, so of course they put at least some effort in.
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Bwo
>>656261 yagi ass...
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>>657729 Want to eat those buns.
>>657708 alice stopped caring too considering she got a thigh strap now
>>657728 a whole 2 IQ! You're so smart Caesar!
>>657737 was there really no good drawing of miyabi sticking her ass out for the author to use?
>>657737 only the billy one is funny tbdesu
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>>657778 would
When is the game going back to sci fi
>>657799 Too long
I remember that old bait
ZZZ gets more sci-fi in Season 3 but to Star Wars levels, like Clone Wars and starfighters and shit. Would you stay?
>>656863 link?
>>657822 Hmmm, which do I hate more... China or reddit wars... Nah it's definitely china I'd stay
>>657822 i loved clone wars so yes
This girl suddenly strutted into the temple like she owns it.
>>657513 I remember that even posting Piper in the official Reddit could warrant for a ban.
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is she a brat?
She's also filming kids...
>>657822 they could easily make that work
>>657886 they look like sisters
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Vivi is such a tease
>>657869 >can't post on official board a character from the game this board is about You sure it was "official"? I'd nuke that shit if I worked at Mihoyo.
>>657909 It's true Back then even posting ingame screenshot of Zhu yuan will net you a permanent ban
I want the next patch NOW
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>>657913 >Zhu yuan
>>657909 I remember that. It was the usual reddit mod that somehow got in the mod group.
>>657656 Full adversity, either enemy died in 30 seconds or you are the one who died.
>>657874 She's full on Kusogaki.
>>657909 It true. The jannies at the official subreddit were banning people for just posting Piper or Corin. That's why the unofficial subreddit became more popular because moderation overall sucks. It's fixed now but damage has been done.
>>657938 Also, didn't the mod also ousted as an UOH poster too? that's a double whammy
>>657749 Language and location alters jewgle results. >>657754 Tbdesu "curis" in general are hit and miss, but you gotta respect the ocassional effort.
>>657942 Yeah, the Reddit mod made a sticky in the official reddit basically wanting to not allow lewd post or comments about Lucy, Piper, Corin, Ellen, and Soukaku. Then people searched his history of him wanting to fuck Nahida in which he deleted his account and comments lol.
>>657958 >not allow lewd post or comments about ... Corin tautology, all corn posts are lewd posts
>>657958 How is this phenominon so common? I just don't understand where the hypocracy comes from.
>>657958 >Desperately avoid and police the THING everywhere >Turns out they're hiding the fact that they're a massive THING enjoyer >and vice versa It's always like this. It's even more obnoxious because this is the norm in western culture, and it's everywhere now.
Love this rabbit.
>>657958 i do not understand people like this
is this where I come to escape that one particular halfchan schizo using proxies to ruin it every time something he doesn't like comes up
Since Yuzuha’s core passive is Anomaly + Faction and Alice is already Anomaly, predictions on Komano’s kit?
>>657992 >>657999 Torigga and Bibian’s ghosting texts were a wasted opportunity for them to call you out on your lying
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Any Shifu enjoyers itt?
>>658003 A rank Defender that buffs Anomaly like Seth
>>658008 started this game because of shifu. rolled her and also got her ball, though it's only M0 because i'm saving for Miyabi.
>>658003 S-rank Physical Stun that does bonus daze on Assault
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feels like my Yixuan does no dmg. is her wengine THAT much stronger?
>>657971 >>657977 >>657988 It's actually simpler than that. Every straight man likes cute girls. Some are just in stronger denial.
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BIC BOI COM PHUC MY BUTT
"Sweet Scare" sounds so much worse than "Candy Fright" >>658025 That's a very good build, but technically an ether disc would be slightly better. >is her wengine THAT much stronger? 20% give or take
>>657994 Yeah.
>>658025 Depends. Are you using panda and fufu?
>>658038 >"Sweet Scare" sounds so much worse than "Candy Fright" I can't believe they'd start censoring ZZZ too...
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Kama, if he real
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>>657958 I jerk off to corn multiple times a week btw
>>658050 i would jerk off to corn more if she had a good touch sim game
Spook Shack sounds racist
>>658054 How difficult would it be to put Corn in Super DeepThroat?
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How are you meant to do the newer hollow zero at high modifiers (12-15/15) Can miyabi clear it or is the boss too much for her?
>>658058 It's actually an old porno title, seeing the faction name for the first time really struck me with some old memories. I remember watching them with my friends along with American Pie and Project X
>>658059 >download corin lora >take a screenshot of some twintail girl with a maid outfit from the game >img2img >cut out the hair and save it
>>658058 get spooked nerd haha
>>658059 super deepthroat is SUPER simple art wise it'd probably take someone skilled like a week at most to replace assets but i was thinking something a bit more thorough >>658063 im clearing activity 15 right now and this is the team i'm running fufu fury is making this trial shifu do WORK
Bwos, what set would Yuzuha use? I'm guessing 2p phaeton's melody for the AM with AM slot 6 and she needs 3k attack. What's the other 4 slot's set going to be? Does she even need AP considering her off field anomaly buildup effect doesn't contribute to the damage calculation?
>>658047 Shitma. Post Huyan instead
>>658066 American Pie 1999 Damn...
>>658059 >>658076 Couldn't you easily put her in Aritifical Academy or whatever that my personal maid game was?
>>658063 No, Mibibi sucks because Miasma Priest is racist against fox Thirens Pick Resonium that lets you spam ults as often as possible, take the Resonaboo that instantly gives you decibels, and spam with your Shifu
>>658063 also forgot to mention miyabi kinda gets hard countered by the miasmic shields past difficulty 8 in my experience, got m2 and her ball but her regular team with yanagi and astra suffers extremely hard so thats why im running trial shifu
>>657958 >Piper What a bunch of faggots.
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>>658076 >>658091 >>658092 So i must make the trial shifu work then, yesterday i grabbed the ultimate gear and resonias but it still wasn't enough despite spamming ult like crazy, I really shouldn't be missing any of the impairs right? kinda ass that you HAVE to use a trial characters if you didn't pull shifu, feels artificial
>>658107 why are you shifuless
>>658089 you could actually just download a card for koikatsu and get a mod for 100% accurate corn but i hate how much space those games take and im too lazy to plug in my external ssd to boot the game up
>>658119 Why not?, its not like deadass or shiyu demanded her like bringer with miyabi
>>658041 I'm using trigger and a panda
>>658144 although my panda is around 70% of its power
>>658119 Her personality is kind of boring and I don't like her voice in any language. I don't really enjoy how she plays either even though 2 ults is pretty cool. I like her milk jugs, but that's not enough to roll for her.
>>658150 >Her personality is kind of boring and I don't like her voice in any language yeah fair, she's very underwhelming in that regard
>>658107 I got really lucky and did diff 12 really easy with Billy, Pulchra, and Trigger with tag+adv, for some reason I never get lucky in diff 15 and never get any resonia or gears I wanted
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Lucy says no to thiren rights!
It’s time to rebuild the tiger Thiren population, disciple.
>>658089 I forgot Koikatsu exist, you can put any Corn card you find online and molest her 24/7 wherever you want or even pose with her. One is free and decent on Bepis https://db.bepis.moe/koikatsu/view/349363 the zipmod for the clothes I found on his OneDrive Or AA2 if you want to roleplay a relationship, but AA2 is more about mass-simulation and playing it for just 1 character gets boring, you'd want to make a whole class of ZZZ characters and have them roleplay and interact with each other, would be a fun concept for a site ZZZ event.
>>658175 What if I wanna rebuild the white haired woman population instead?
>>658171 Actually I kinda curious how was this racist Lucy meme started
>>658180 You WILL breed the kitten
>>658193 It kinda spiraled out of control since then.
>>658107 it sucks that you HAVE to run the shifu (unless you just wait for more characters to come out) but miyabi had to be stopped..... as long as you take the 2k decibel gear and never take the other ult gear that increases the cap its basically a free win anyways
>>658224 >>658212 Doesn't Lucy also say something about cat thirens not being loyal?
lucy and zhu are right about thirens
>>658180 That's called "being a granny"
Forgive?
>>658271 giga based to be already posting corn scenes also the AA2 site stuff sounds like it could be fun for an active poster to pick up
>>658271 Wasn't she experimented victim in the past? So this is might be canon
>>658178 >AA2 I've never heard of this but this seems fun. It looks like I can just import premade character cards which will shave off a ton of work. No idea if someone has uploaded ZZZ cards anywhere though
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>>658303 Making cards is easy if you're using base assets and hard if you want to upload custom ones, Making ZZZ characters in just school uniforms without importing their 1:1 game clothes would be mostly possible but details could be missing, adding Corn's nails in her head would be tough. But if you don't care about a perfect representation, a green twintails girl with a maid headband and the same eye texture would be enough to make her a believable Corn and would be very easy to make. I myself made like 70+ cringe OCs I keep with me for safekeeping from years ago. Koikatsu has a more powerful character creator and a Studio for making scenes and animations, but has zero simulation like AA2 does that allows everybody you put in class to interact and build bonds with each other, or make enemies. The AA2 thread moved to 8chan and they're hanging out on /v/, the Koikatsu folks are back on halfchan on /h/ if you need resources.
>>658339 >nails Bwo they're clearly screws...
>>658178 Pretty much all the ZZZ girls have been ported, I have sacrificed trillions to Piper in it
What's up with Chinky Claus? There's a Chinky giving people monthlies at random? I bet they're on NA anyways...
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>>658339 Thanks for the resources. I'll dig into this the next week or so
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>>658388 Santa chinky usually first gave the monthlies on christmas, i got one on christmas eve last year However not really sure whats up with this time, maybe because the game had its first birthday or whatnot
>>658283 another naked dogeza, I'll consider it
>>658224 thiren community in shambles
Green is stupid color
>>658417 Shut the fuck up, bitch.
>>656910 Yeah I bet it is, if only I could actually find it. Where the hell is it?
>>658232 that was Burnice
>>658469 "Proxy Tools" on the leftmost tab of the menu screen
koleda buffs announced tomorrow
>>658470 my cute racist wives
>>658487 Are Caesar and Piper also racist?
>>658494 Piper absolutely, Caesar is probably too dumb to be racist
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>>658494 Piper definitely says THIGGER ard R
>>658500 bwo, your tabs?
>>658076 >i was thinking something a bit more thorough Koikatsu? I deleted mine to make space for the latest update, but you can easily make animations with it. Not that it's any popular. I asked for requests before I deleted it, but I only got one.
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>>658500 For me it's fox thirens
>>658500 That's from that artist named shigure-something, right?
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Took me a while to notice, but I'm digging the sounds they added to the unvoiced lines in the 2.0 update. It's not much, but breaking the silence every now and then helps with the immersion. It's just lacking in variety right now (most of them seem to be just breathing sounds).
Have you ever played ZZZ with your life on the line? While having a BUNCH of polychromes in your mouth 💀💀💀 Heh, well this is called "DARK Gacha Psychology" ☠️☠️
>>658708 Strangle zoomer Belle posters
My S11 does no damage even with Lighter and Astra and M3 and Eveball Surely a few more disc rolls aren’t making that big a difference…?
>>658750 possible skill issue, there's a S11 autist here that does good damage
>>658600 Do they have the same VA?
>>658755 Do we know the new VA already?
>>658761 yes they announced it >>658755 yes
>>658750 Harin is not very strong, I had better results with M6 Piper though her build is ass compared to S11's. But in this case it has more to do with compatibility.
>>658765 lmao based
>>658750 How much damage is no damage?
>>658795 Over 3 minutes on Shiyu 7 side 1
>>658750 Ask S11anon when he shows up, he'll get you set up on how to do damage
Love redheads
>>658750 Dude you can't use a Fufu pic to talk about Lighter, that's against the rules.
>>658697 >It's just lacking in variety right now this is one of my biggest problems with the game when it comes to voice lines/interactions, not sure how common this is in other hoyo games but it's a bit jarring
>>658802 I'm doing a bit over 3 minutes with Caesar and fucking Lucy, you must be doing something terribly wrong to be there with Lighter and Astra.
>>658802 Side 1 sucked for me too. This was M3W1 S11, M0W1 Ju Fufu, and M0W1 Caesar.
>>658816 With those 2, below 2.30 is supposed to be reachable
>>658802 well luckily for you I know where to find our resident harin expert https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4GqFqJHnR0
Can you guys post your Ellens so I know what stats to aim for?
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>>658830 Why does everyone here have a youtube channel?
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>Ju Fufu drained me completely when she released >almost have 40 rolls currently Who do I save for? I don't need Yuzuha since Miyabi/NIcole/Astra is really OP
>>658830 holy damage
>>658849 just save for 2 patches and get the other rabbit
>>658847 Only the good players of meme characters.
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>>658847 because uhh we love zzz?
What do I need for Miyabi to come when I roll next week? Also does she need sig ball or will the onahole ball be decent enough?
>>658869 do you love your mom?
>>656948 the summer event we deserve
>>658849 We need a redheaded hag in zzz, it's a mihoyo staple.
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Why do people say Lighter is so good? Don't you need his W-Engine to get most of the Fire/Ice DMG bonus?
>>658873 I also love that guy's mom
>>658882 is she a milf?
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>>658888 alright I am done talking about my mom nice digits by the way
>>658888 >Is your mother a mother
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>>658500 Rio big love
>>658894 come on, spill the beans.
i love my mother, my father on the other hand was a bastard
>>658907 Same, but I wish Nicole was my mother.
>>658907 Are you me?
I wish ZZZ had a mom
>>658914 >I wish Nicole was my mother And why's that?
>>658901 no way you motherfucker
HOLY SHIT I DID IT I ACTUALLY FUCKING DID IT THE IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE
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>>658871 >What do I need for Miyabi to come when I roll next week? Melon >ball if you are cheaping out, then get grace ball.
>>658907 are you black perchance
>>658924 So I could do normal mother son bonding like hugging and sniffing and holding hands and cuddling and sucking her massive tits and jacking off on her face while she's asleep and kissing and fucking.
>>658921 something something generational trauma it ends with me >>658914
>>658939 you come here when you aren't getting enough (you) racebaiting the halfchan thread huh?
>>658923 trigger is momwife coded
>>658923 There's multiple moms in this game. Nicole: mother of Neko and Anby Yanagi: mother of Soukaku Yixuan: mother of Jufufu Grace: mother of machines Rina: mother of everyone Trigger: mother of my children
I'm filling up my Spooky Shack folder. Post Alice's alices and also some Yuzuhas, please an thank you.
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Oyakodon Agent when?
>>658928 >you motherfucker how do you know. I'm not gonna think about your mom. I swear
>>658946 i dont know whats happening over there, you can fuck off right back however, since you seem so invested in it, nigger
>>658959 yanagi
>>658964 oh yeah that's definitely you spamming halfchan with racebaits right now. filtered nigga
>>658923 We have Yanagi.
is there a lore reason why half the ethereals in the game are weak to ice
>>658980 >5th image WOULD I wish I had enough for alice and yuzuha but I need to save for sneed
>>658930 how did you do it?
>>658980 >4th image Woah. Now i'm with that other anon, I wanna suck some titties right now.
>>658979 if youre cold theyre cold
>>658979 their clothes explode when they turn into etherials, so they're naked which makes ice very cold
>>658980 What the hell are they feeding the teenagers in New Eridu?
>>658933 >get grace ball I don't have that either
>>658979 The body of an ethereal is basically made up of etheric rock and crystals. Ice breaks rocks through Freeze-Thaw action, a form of mechanical weathering.
I just remembered that Shifu makes inky clones in a few attacks and in her cutscene Which implies the possibility that her bird can transform into a second black Shifu The possibilities are endless
Aieeeee why did I pick belle >>658813 They are even worse off in that regard. I went from Genshin to HSR to ZZZ, and I can guarantee you, ZZZ is the one that's actually experimenting and doing most things right.
>>659012 >Agent that can create a doppelganger This now makes me want an agent that's an on-field DPS but uses ether magic bullshit/sci-fi magic bullshit to create a clone of themselves that does off-field/aftershock attacks while the agent is on-field.
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>>659005 rip bozo
>>658980 4 & 5 are AI btw wild how far it has progressed
When are they going to start teasing her if she's the Season 2 Void Hunter? 2.2? 2.3?
>>659025 That does not look like my retardwife Susan Shang
>>659018 You better post them brats, homie.
>>658878 You can use hellfires to max it, second best (restrained) lands him at ~56% buff.
>>659025 Gonna be honest, she better have a really interesting personality and/or gameplay to shill me on her. I do not like the generic fantasy chink dress. If it turns out she doesn't appear as generic as the back of her suggests, fair. But it doesn't give me a good first impression.
>>658991 Pure luck. I went Billy with Adversity and was running around like a retard trying not to hit any of the small adds and damage the big guy. When the big guy was low I used Billy's Evasive assist and without waiting for it to finished immediately follow up with an Ultimate mid-assist. It killed everything and it counted.
>>658878 Koleda's ball is great on him. You just to alter his rotation a little to fit a double EX to max his impact before applying his debuff.
>>659037 >complains about generic chink dress >while avatarfagging as the generic weaboo fox Poetic
>>659015 The newer game generally gets to be the guinea pig.
>>659036 >>659045 Don't you need like 250 impact? Am I missing something?
>>659051 >Comparing a Yamato Nadeshiko character with several unique aspects of her design to chink slop ripped right out of HSR You're better than that anon
>>659060 He gives himself 20% more impact in combat when you consume his gauge.
>>659051 retard
>>659051 let's not get ahead of ourselves, SI:6 has some kino urban designs, generic wuxia dresses (hoyo style #1) are not an even comparison
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>>658966 >nagi-NEE She's a big sister, that's shimaidon. The real oyakodon will be Lucia/Nicole and Zhao/Alice
>>659061 No anon, I'm just mentally sane. Meanwhile you somehow admit Miyabi is a Yamato Nadeshiko cliche, which by definition is generic, but of course that does not apply to characters you like lmao.
>>659069 I have a bad feeling she'll be A-Rank
>>659051 Meeb's is an office worker wearing a japanese robe, which is more interesting than every genshin outfit design i've seen. And the back of "chinky meebs" gives me the impression of a genshin outfit design, which is just "random colourful vaguely fantasy bullshit" that chinese gachas are infamous for. It's one of the reasons why genshin and hsr aren't appealing to me at all, and one of the reasons why I started playing ZZZ
They should steal Arlecchino’s design for an agent doe
>>659076 I don't care if she's A rank as long as she's Nicole tier and not Seth tier. I feel like they didn't intend for her to be as strong as she is, because every A rank since launch has been hyper niche and/or designed to be quickly replaced.
>shartlecchino Her and Zani's tranny asses can go right in the trash where they belong.
>can't even actually see anything about what she is wearing >people are making retarded comparisons anyway Lovely
faggot
>>659079 >far left frilly oversized feminine cap, braided metro genderless design, a fucking half button corset and ruffled 1400s victorian dress shirt with an overside female bow and turquoise gemstone, frilly poofy bloomers with gaudy gold lining and an oversided winged accessory that looks like a magical girl wand, and to top it off full length 90% stockings in white with gold diamond patterned sides. this shit always makes me feel like it was designed by 2018 AI and re-drawn from a 3 day drunkards memory
>>659070 >you somehow admit Miyabi is a Yamato Nadeshiko cliche, which by definition is generic Shit taste, retarded, and a tourist. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but if that's the hill you wanna bleed out on then sure.
>>659060 194 base impact + 20% (from double EX with hellfire buff) + 20% from core skill. You get up to 272 impact.
I regret bringing it up.
>>659099 >can't handle the truth
>>659104 thread is really aggressive and gay right now
>>659104 dont mind you're getting dogged by a local shitposter and (1) phoneposters coming to seethe at you for calling him a retard
>>659109 excuse me, 99% chance its just him malding at you, not multiple people
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>>659069 Kaku and Nagi are a combo package
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>>659091 When are they going to replace Pan Yinhu anyways? Yutane Rupture Support in 2.5?

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>>658957 Highschoolers. >>659076 Don't jinx it.
>>659091 A replacement for Nicole would mean that they would need to provide more def shred, crit, and damage than her. That would also mean they would work well together because of the power of def shred stacking.
>>659117 >Nicole clone >kit is completely identical but she provides Sheer Damage buff instead of Def Shred
>>659123 That's a Pan replacement, not a Nicole replacement.
>>659127 >She's wearing Nicole's clothes but with Pan's body
>>659076 I somehow doubt that would happen but if it does I'll be sitting on like 600 pulls by then trying to figure out who the fuck to pull instead. Something about her design says limited to me though, but small woman big weapon is kino to me so maybe I'm biased.
>>659107 filter by ID goes hard
>>659129 slutty gyaru bara, why hasn't it been done before it'll sell 10 million comissions on twitter
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>>659117 They can just give a passive on the nicole replacement that bricks her kit if you're running more than 1 support
>>659135 It's just light banter, there is nothing serious. At least on my part.
>>659114 >orphie <fire/rupture >seed <panda creep >Komano <A rank phys/rupture, scales with AP Screenshot this
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Cute cute CUTE
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>>659138 If you can't use her with Astra or another support then what's the point? She would need to be giga powercreep to be worth.
>>659142 >seed <panda creep God I wish
>>659140 There are a minority of oversensitive homos in this general who feel they always have to point out when they filter extremely light funposting Just ignore them
>>659143 it was pretty funny that everyone was at the beach but komano was still in his edgy leather shit, I hope they make fun of him for that in the dialogue
>>659140 I don't even understand the point of an anonymous image board if we can't call eachother bad names at least once a thread
Can 2.2 beta come out already? I just want to see Seed already
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>>659104 It's just tiresome to see the same design talk especially in reference other hoyo games. I don't care for the designs from other game either but the same talking points of how chinky or whatever they are gets old. >>659140 You're good, bwo. You're right too, and I like Mibibi.
>>659172 Wouldn't we see Orphie and Manato first? Even if Seed is on the same patch, I doubt she'd be ready for testing right away.
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>>659172 >I want to see seed Zesty ahh blud. Buddy's got some sugar in his tank.
>>659133 it depends on hoyo wanting to take the risk of making a full-furry loli a limited
>>659180 How so? If anything it's Komano that'd be unfinished considering they're probably making him a S-Rank Seed already had plenty of testing with the Bangboo Mecha Event With the exception of Yanagi/Lighter, all Faction characters have been released right next to eachother
>>659193 Why is everyone assuming seed is just the bangboo mecha lol. If they release an agent that plays like that in my opinion that would be a pretty crappy limited
>>659179 >talking points of how chinky yeah we love chinky here
>>659193 I always thought it was super weird that we got Caesar > Nagi > Lighter > Haru/Miyabi, instead of Caesar > Lighter > Nagi > Haru/Miyabi
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>>659193 Komano is an assist character like Lighter and upgraded A rank, literally the exact same situation. Meanwhile we don't even have a real model for Seed. >>659196 Speak for yourself, mecha Eous is exactly what real Seedfags want. >>659197 True.
>>659196 Anon they're not going to make a brand new playable character for a singular event It's pretty obvious it was just a beta test for Seed especially considering how Seed can punch & fire bunch of missilese
>>659203 Bwo forgot about Cutenice
>>656432 Look at Genshin and their Archons which are their void hunter equivalent. The line between the combat roles there are more vague and all of them can be played as main DPS with enough duplicate/weapon investment and/or broken equipment, but in their base form some lean more towards a playstyle as support, sub-dps or off-field role
>>659196 that mech has more gameplay elements than a lot of characters though
>>659208 Nu-uh, she just came before Caesar and I didn't want to add her name to the list for reader retention purposes.
>>659212 Wait, no, I'm retarded. Everyone point and laugh at me
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Genuinely what are we expecting Seed to be? If Seed is a Electric DPS i'm going to be so mad Can't be fire DPS since that's obviously Orphie's role
>release Caesar and make her shield only work on-field >immediately follow her up with Burnice, who’s in her faction but does all her damage off-field Bravo Dawei
>>659221 she's an electric defense agent anon
I'm still doubting Komano is S. We're overdue for an A-rank rupture, it's more likely that he doesn't work with Yuzuha/Alice and is getting run with agents that do more for him (Orpheus/Seed). >>659203 Yanagi was the main character for the side story in 1.3, it would be weird if she were the second banner.
>>659221 DPS Astra but with more on-field attacks cause astra is boring. Starts punching and shooting niggas on-field, hold E and he turns into a Bastion-From-Overwatch-esque turret that stays on-field and starts launching bullets and missiles at niggas while you're playing a different agent.
>>659221 Defender prolly, Electric if I had to guess. I'm on the "Orphie will probably be Rupture" bandwagon, and I think defense agents are going to be supports for Rupture. I am eager to see if my hypothesis is correct.
Any chance we'll ever get more HZ Agent gear that aren't limited characters? They already showed Yuzuha and Alice having gear, and no one else right? Is Billy and Corin that unpopular?
>>659241 Now that the devs are fully able to focus on lost void as the withered domain replacement I think they can churn out the new gears for all the new agents as another marketing tool, so I doubt it. what I'm wondering is if new A-ranks are going to be dps ever again, and if they are how competitive would they be.
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>>659236 >>659239 As long as he doesn't powercreep Sanby I'll be happy I still wonder how they're going to do the mecha transformation because it's incredibly obvious it'll happen at this point (There is no way Seed is small enough to fit through some areas in Lemnian Hollows) I'm assuming you'll play as not!firefly in city & non-combat areas but then she transforms into Seed during combat or something
>>659221 Orpheus will be a fire aftershock support, Magus will be her DPS install. Seed will be an electric aftershock defender (quadriplegic in a wheelchair), filling her meter lets her ride in her mech for a limited amount of time.
I hope if sneed is eous or a small girl they have a TTGL type mecha intro or ult
>>659229 overdue might be a strong word, but I kinda get it. an argument that I could see being used by both sides though is that none of the post launch A ranks have been real dps characters, do they keep the trend or do they finally break it
Belle is so cute, I wish she was my sister.
One of orphie, komano, or zhao is gonna be a support/stun character. They won't all be dps
>>659256 >quadriplegic in a wheelchair This but unironically.
I know what Orpheus and Seed SHOULD be at this point but I find after all the feels crafting it would be far funnier if Orphie was like fucking electric anomaly and Kamano is phys rupture, and Seed isn't even a playable agent >they won't because- yeah I just think everyone should get rugged by the devs idk chaos is funny to me
>they still don't know
>>659280 The devs always do this, you should expect it. EVERYONE had yuzuha pegged as fire. Zhao is ether stun, komano is phys attack, seed is fire defense, orpy is fire anomaly. chaos
>>659196 it would work if it wasn't as clunky as the mech was
>>656282 I tried a 50/50 on Caesar after pulling Fufu and lost, so I'm sitting on a guaranteed for Yuzuha now. Should have enough for her ball too, but I'd like to try at least a 50/50 on Alice too. I haven't done the math, so I'll see how it all shakes out.
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>she >her It's over, no real Sneedggas are here anymore... >>659280 That would suck but is better than getting a castrated Sneed if it goes that way desu.
>>659269 Brollipop just make your sister wear her fit and crack her 🥀✌️
>>659254 >I'm assuming you'll play as not!firefly in city & non-combat areas but then she transforms into Seed during combat or something I hadn't really thought about it, but to be totally desu I bet that's exactly how it'll work. Provided she is, in fact, a she inside of a mech, and not an intelligent construct. I guess even if she is an actual robot though she could still have a smaller cuter transformation.
>>659221 a robot
>>659277 Cripples erotic
>>659290 I think Seed will be a He but I have absoluty zero desire to debate about it, I won't be bothered either way but I would prefer the JoJo robot to be a dude.
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>>659290 I'm a real Sneedgga, I've been excited for him ever since the Obol text leaks I'm fine with him having a pilot inside as long as they don't fuck it up Have the pilot girl be an actual cripple and not the bullshit that was Firefly
swig suck
>>659025 Horse girl on Chinese new year
>>659314 >she's drinking boba in the picture >cup says water >box says coffee >the cup is not made for boba This annoys my autism immensely.
>>659190 I'll curse them forever if they don't take the risk.
>>659290 >It's over, no real Sneedggas are here anymore... Sneed's still a guy for me >But the dialogue change Don't care, i see that as Hoyo trying to gauge how people would react to a girl being a turbo-masculine mecha character. >But the leaker Said that in 1.7, there's no mention of sneed in 2.0 so that faggot clearly made it up for attention, especially cause all he said was "Also Seed is a woman lmao" with no proof or additional context Until Seed appears in the story and we have 100% "no take backs" proof that he's a 'woman', until then he's a bro-mecha to me. I'm with >>659310 on being too fucking tired to debate it. I'm too stubborn to change my mind until Hoyo 100% confirms it.
>>659190 I wish Fufu looked like this…
>>659221 My genuine guess is Electric defender who revolves around giving over shields and applying electric/phys resistance shred. Making him a sheer buff stick seems too simple it'll probably be more like lighter with large but niche buffs. It's either that or! He's phys rupture with brawler play style and loadable ammo resource similar to Zhu with some artillery moves that do massive sheer/daze. Really though who knows.
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>>659251 >>659268 There are more DPS A-ranks than there are utility A-ranks. Only a handful are 100% spec'd into utility (Nicole, Lucy, Pan, Pulchra), then you have the actual dps (Anton, Corn, Billy), and the bricks that have half of their mindscapes spec'd into damage despite being utility agents (Seth, Anby, Ben). >inb4 where Soukaku She gets to be all 3. >>659290 Girl or guy I've kind of given up on Seed being manly. Might be like Kid Gohan/Kid Simon/Alphonse kind of soft but heroic when he needs to be, but I don't expect a gigachad so the gender doesn't really matter to me.
>>659341 I've said this a shit ton already but might as well toss this into the thread again since it came up. I'll also accept if it's a Mech being piloted by a girl but the Mecha has it's own personality and sentience, I just want a cool robotic bro that feels robotic.
>>659352 Alphonse or like Iron Giant style would be cool >>659356 I'd be down for sentient mech >>659290 >no real Sneedggas are here anymore I'm here I just don't argue cause it sort of devolves into the same few anons repeating themselves ad infinitum every time it comes up
>>659360 why are you so mean...
I just hope to see more Trigger and S11 when the Obol patch comes around. I don't expect a lot I just like seeing my wife.
>>659394 Trigger's in a cutscene that was shown in the 2.1 teaser/trailer
>>659360 What’s the ZZZ equivalent of this?
>>659402 Forgetting to do Corin's hangout
Backread on the thread a bit and there's a whole lot of headcanon today. >Zhao is A-rank No way, she had like three separate scenes in the season 2 trailer >Komano was upgraded to S-rank 4chin level headcanon, Lighter being upgraded had some ground to it, iirc the placeholder for his engine was in the files as A-rank in the first couple of patches, but then was replaced with an S-rank one, and Lighter was in the game since launch himself so devs could gauge interest and change plans. But now it's just said about half of the characters coming out for some reason. >Sneed It's all so tiring
>>659402 Asking someone on a date and then not showing up. I'd post a screenshot but I only did it once by mistake to Soukaku and I still haven't forgiven myself to this day.
>>659402 The standing up Corin dialogue where she cries so hard she vomits
It's best not to get your hopes up on what Seed will be regardless of what camp you're in, there's so many different ideas that most people here are bound to be disappointed.
>>659352 but they haven't released a dps A rank since launch, that's the point
>>659416 >Seed is a shopkeeper
>>659408 If Komano was A-rank, he’d be in Yuzuha’s patch
The funnist thing they could do is make neither Orphie, Komano, Seed or Zhao a Rupture Agent
What if Kamano is actually going to turn into that jack-frost looking ass Hollow boss at the end of 2.1's story, that's why he has a non-twink body, cause he was never meant to be playable....
>>659408 >It's all so tiring Next thread will be better for sure bwo
>>659432 >rupture is shifu's special snowflake class and it's never elaborated on would be funny as fuck
>>659438 Honestly at this point I kinda want that to be the case Maybe make the horsegirl China girl a Rupture Void Hunter but that's it
>>659432 >>659438 >>659444 >ALICE IS PHYSICAL RUPTURE!!! >YUZUHA IS FIRE RUPTURE!!! >ORPHIE IS FIRE RUPTURE!!! >SEED IS ELECTRIC RUPTURE!!! >ZHAO IS ICE RUPTURE!!! >DAMIAN IS LITERALLY ME!!! We're going to go through this with every 2.X character reveal, aren't we?
>>659433 Please no we still get bara posters upset about Pompey they'll never stop if zzz does it again
Did all my reset day shit today and finished off by disk farming tryin to fix my Nicole was blessed today.
>>659433 The chance is low....but not zero
ok genshin now autokicks you if u login with mods expecting the same for zzz, would make sense considering the skins
>>659416 Seed is a literal seed, that's why she eats flowers
>>659436 All this will go away when 2.2 dripmarketing / 2.2 beta drops Just a few more days >>659466 Apparently one of the mod loaders stopped working like a month or two ago for Genshin
>>659451 the only character people have seriously theorized as Rupture is Orphie though
>>659433 "Norano" is one of the few with a playable ID, isn't he?
Next thread will be better
Next thread should be about hags.
>>659458 I didn't even know it went as low as E... >>659451 >DAMIAN IS LITERALLY ME!!! that one's actually true though
>>659451 I'm kinda hoping Orphie is not a DPS and/or Fire because I wouldn't feel like pulling her since I already have Evelyn. >>659444 I'm picturing her as a void hunter support
>>659474 they keep updatibg the anticheat algortihms today a lot of people are having issues
>>659494 Having something there is better then having nothing, when I went and decided to fix her I literally put the best I could there, now that I no longer need to worry about astral I can focus on horomone punk.
>>659474 >>659503 >Apparently one of the mod loaders stopped working like a month or two ago for Genshin >they keep updatibg the anticheat algortihms today a lot of people are having issues As a linuxfag, this is not encouraging news.
>>659458 what is this page?
>>659493 Okay but it better be about Isolde then at least >>659474 It's never going away bro we're stuck on this ride until EoS >>659510 For sure, I definitely have some scuffed disks on my supports I'm pretty sure I haven't fixed Lucy since like 1.2
>>659510 >I can focus on horomone punk I thought swing jazz would be the play
>>659451 >ALICE IS PHYSICAL RUPTURE!!! I thought a fencer would have a higher chance to be an attacker, but here we are >>YUZUHA IS FIRE RUPTURE!!! Not a single soul said this >ORPHIE IS FIRE RUPTURE!!! 100% >SEED IS ELECTRIC RUPTURE!!! Shitpost >ZHAO IS ICE RUPTURE!!! There's a chance >DAMIAN IS LITERALLY ME!!! So true
>>659500 Regardless of class I'm willing to bet 6000 rupees every void hunter/grandmaster/whatever the fuck will be a DPS. They're more engaging and way easier to balance than astra/shiza but even better.
>>659522 >oh I didn't know they revealed her name >google it > H-huh?
>>659544 Chinatsu is just her v-tuber avatar and Isolde is her true form, enjoy, idolkeks
>>659533 They could make them fill 2 roles at the same time like with did with Miyabi (hybrid attacker/anomaly). But one thing for sure, they will always be hard dps some way or the other.
How good is Caesar's cope option compared to her actual ball? I don't really intend to level or play Caesar, but say she gets buffed in the future or we get a Rupture agent that converts shields to damage or some shit, I will probably wanna use her. Just not sure if her ball is worth the guarantee or not
>>659551 Caesar has no cope option. She is one of the few that wants her ball. The current cope option for Caesar is giving her any ball with %impact. So the new free defender ball (that has basically no passive) or a stunner ball (no passive obviously). No matter what you pick, you won't get an engine passive.
>>659544 we had a datamine with 2.1 character line count a while ago
>vtuber is actually a hag Accurate and halarious
>>659544 AI is always pretty off base if there isn't a large font of data for it to pull from. You get like reddit comment tier 'facts' regurgitated at you. >>659551 I mean she runs fine on like Seth's ball or an Impact stat stick. If you're not playing her then I doubt the ball pulls are worth it.
I want Caesar M1, but I need to roll the high schoolers…
>>659519 thank you!
>>659530 we'll see, right now top Nicole uses horomone punk and maxes out her damage flatly as much as possible
Show me your bunny dedication girls.
>>659558 After you said this I realized the other options were Seth's ball or Reel projector, so I went ahead and sent it. Now when Seed comes out as a A rank shielding defender I can slap Tusks of Fury on him
>>659533 We could look at Genshin and HSR for examples on how they handle these things, which is not conclusive since those are different games by different devs, but it's the same company so why not. In Genshin the VH equivalents - Archons - are hopelessly irrelevant if they're DPS but still seeing use as supports, with the exceptions being Nahida because her whole element is out of meta (she's still the best support for it) and Mavuika who's the newest one and her DPS is top-1 in the game.in HSR the VH equivalents - emanators - are all DPS and aren't as omnipotent as Mibibi, though Feixiao still has her niche as queen of single target and Herta as queen of AOE. All in all idk, I feel like VH level DPS will be the master key for one side of any endgame for a while and VH level supports may lead to character being designed so that they underperform without them but overperform if you pulled, like how in Jenshin Furina is still required for a lot of new teams.
I need to go to sleep
>>659599 sorry I'm going to install a shelf riiiiiight next to your room it'll only take 2 hours of drilling
>>659592 Fufu ate my rolls but not my monochrome
>>659592 500~ total tapes atm but I'm probably just going for M0W1 unless she's insanely fun or a void hunter
>>659609 Same, I'm saving a lot in case she has strong mindscapes but I will be fine at M0W1.
>>659609 >>659615 >she's going to be an off-field stunner
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Yuzuha is packing some real cannons isn't she?
>>659618 I should save the alice version
>>659592 certified fluff addict here
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>>659618 Fine I'll run Trigger/Jufu/Zhao They can't all be off field
>>659625 Damn. That's a certified wabbit fucker here.
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>>658923 Bro? Your Carole Arna?
>>659626 Lycaon why you trying not to laugh bro thats disrespectful as shit
>>659636 Man Wise was able to purify Vivian after knowing her for like a week I bet if Arna was in trouble he'd have an ether melty strong enough to cleanse a whole fucking hollow
I've only made about 3 seconds of progress on this video
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>>659636 I really really want to play with her ears, I hope they're sensitive to touch
alice timefield
>>659645 >Makes a video guide on a character that's still 2 banners away Your video autism knows no bounds, cornGOD
>>659651 alice parsley sage rosemary and thymefield
>>659645 3 beautiful seconds, my bwo. Gonna voice it yourself this time? or gonna stick to fairy?
AVE
>>659655 alice teriyaki beans and ketchup
>>659645 I left this open while it buffered and went to piss and had to listen to it repeating over and over down the hallway for like 3 minutes.
>>659651 >Timefield >Yanagi's 'soft'-gimmick is Time >Alice has massive Nagi's >Alice is an anomaly agent that can apply disorder by herself like Nagi Hory fuck.
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>>659551 >How good is Caesar's cope option compared to her actual ball? Basically, it's simple and complicated. Caesar's W-Engine effectively follows the same pattern Limited Stun W-Engines do, aside from maybe Trigger's. It's not particularly strong, and for her personal kit it actually doesn't matter that much. However, it's affectively a Support ball on a non-Support agent. Like, yeah, her shield scales with Impact and yadda-yadda, but who cares about the shield - its size will matter like a couple times a year maybe. She has a few decent cope options among Defense W-Engines: Seth's is pretty good - it allows her to shift towards Assault buildup for possible Anomaly shenanigans, Spring Embrace (BP W-Engine) is alright - provides a boost to Energy Generation Rate (affects active ER as well) you can pass onto your DPS, and any Stun W-Engine can be used if you need her to actually build up Daze (and scale her shield, I guess). However, see how none of those provide you with an off-field source of damage - that's the value of her W-Engine. If you compare Caesar to, say, Lucy, you'd go something along the lines: >Lucy gives 600 ATK - Caesar gives 1000 >Lucy gives 10% CRIT DMG - Caesar gives 25% DMG >Lucy does off-field damage - Caesar has powerful Defensive Assists >Lucy enables Astra - Caesar... can carry Astral? Or at least enables Proto >Lucy gives ~12% in-combat ATK from her W-Engine - Caesar does fuck all without hers You have effectively voided all advantage Caesar had with her stronger buffs because she's completely missing one buff source. So, basically, it's very important due to the nature of the deal, but objectively speaking, it's not particularly strong and Caesar herself doesn't really need it - it's just about maximizing your access to buffs per agent slot used. And because all of the above remains true for any Defense agent, Caesar's W-Engine is currently BiS on all of them (unless you're playing them as DPS of course).
>>659660 LET'S CHANGE OUTFITS, YOU LET'S CHANGE OUTFITS, YOU LET'S CHANGE OUTFITS, YOU >>659654 I have to start a month out because I'm so slow at editing and don't have creator access >>659657 It's going to be unvoiced with dialogue boxes similar to Apel's videos
>>659665 for me what makes lucy clear caesar is the energy from ults cant imagine playing sigless burnice otherwise
>>659669 Did you not try to get creator access, or did they turn you down?
Was it worth me getting Fufu's ball? I'm using her with Yixuan as my top dps team.
>>659686 We need a incel lover like Chiori in ZZZ
Does anyone have the mp4/webm of angels of delusion dance from hoyo fair?
>>659685 My application has been sitting at "review status" for 4 months
>>659690 carole reminds me of chiori
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>>659688 Same deal as with Caesar's. It's an extra source of damage - it's valuable because of that. Also makes building her easier. But if you aren't pushing high scores or trying to speedrun Shiyu, it's not particularly strong.
>>659692 >My application has been sitting at "review status" for 4 months Even youtubers are stuck in job application hell...
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>>659665 Thanks anon, that's the kind of nerd shit information I needed. I know technically nobody NEEDS their ball but I play for high DA scores and deep tower dives I want my agents to play optimally. I'm willing to sacrifice a ball if someone like Astra's case though, so I just wanted to be sure before I wasted the 10 roll
>>659466 Wait really? That fucking blows. I'd hate to lose my Nico's un-nerfed nicos...
jufufu should rape me
>>659704 (Me) Forgot to turn off my VPN
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>>659698 The reason Astra doesn't really need her ball is exactly because she's a Support already, so giving up her signature doesn't mean completely giving up an entire source of damage. Her sig is still nice, and I'm very happy I pulled it, now that I ended up running her with Yixuan who doesn't care about ATK much (the default alternative would've been Kaboom), but before that, her sig was very sidegrade-ish to the cope options.
>>659696 Well I'm new and can only A rank most shiyu so once I get a better dps for my 2nd team with Miyabi S rank should be easier.
>>659692 They hate corn, it's over...
>>659712 >I'm new I'd say you're better off saving for more agents so you have more and better options before investing into balls. While your account isn't strong enough, your best bet is riding the wave of new agent shilling for Shiyu and Deadly, assembling ~3 solid squads during the process. And if you end up liking them a lot - pick up missing signatures on a rerun.
>>659658 what's her rubicon
>>659712 >Well I'm new Smooch
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>>659712 >I'm new Don't sleep on the A ranks, threre's no bad agents in ZZZ, just agents that require more investment/effort, if you get any A ranks that you fuck with don't feel bad about investing in them, I have every agent and a couple c6's and I still use Pulchra, Corin and Lucy on a pretty normal basis. Piper sometimes too but I kinda benched her for Jane so she's fallen pretty far behind in my roster
>>659736 >threre's no bad agents in ZZZ You now remember Seth exists. I don't know if he's actually the worst but i've literally never seen anyone use him post 1.3
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>>659741 I was gonna say Anton but after homeboy posted the physical damage only Anton DA run I decided against it.
this 2.1 hell banner is gonna be the death of me as a f2p im really unsure on getting yuzuha since i only have piper in my account (started at 1.6, missed a free harumasa but i managed to get astra in first-half 2.0 banner) i cant even try to figure out and roll for who i like better im in shambles at the moment
>>659741 if I didn't lost my jane 50/50 I would've leveled him, considered him for my yanagi too but I didn't want to deal with his shock build up too
>>659746 Anton can be saved by Astra cause his QA is actually pretty fucking strong. Seth, there's no saving that retard. Lucy's a better option for Anomaly teams than him and he was literally designed for anomaly teams
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>>659743 >eww an incel ughh eww ughhh >mwahh mwahh mwahh When are we getting this in ZZZ?
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>>659755 Close enough. She'll love you no matter how much of a weirdo you are
>>659741 he's not bad for what he does, the problem is that only two characters can really benefit from what he does, and they both have much better options
>>659749 Meta pull, Miyabi > Yuzu > The other two Pulling with you dick, only you can decide. But if you've already got Astra I would put Yuzu on the backburner and worry about Miyabi and either Alice or Nagi. Personally I'd go Nagi over Alice, she's tried and true and can be a on-field DPS, quick swap burst sub-DPS, or a Miyabi battery. If you go Yuzu and not Miyabi then Alice may be better for you then. And if you can only get one, Miyabi is your safest choice.
>>659691 Don't remember if this is the one with sound or not
>>659751 Eh, he gives a decent shield which rat pretty much needs if you want to use her spin


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