Gonna have a melty if I don't get a JFF ID.

35

I got viciously raped by my ID

SNEED status? are we rolling?

seeding the bunner

Repopulating new Eridu with my ID!

Doing yoga with my ID

Seed is gonna fucking kill me

>>880874 Tiger Thirens are fucking saved

>>880871 no she got bluecrept by Lucia immediately

8 hour long love making with my Id

are we there yet?

Seed is gonna fucking rape me My ID pretending to console me afterwards then giving me the Lacrima special

>>880871 M0W1

>>880871 As sure as the morning sees the tree, we will be rolling

OOKED

my id hates thirens

>>880883 >blue creep >schizo creep Da Wei you son of a bitch

I am going to Zhao

I'm still mad.

>>880891 heh scratchers am I right

>>880871 Eyup Already got a guarantee waiting for her

>>880892 >schizo creep aint no fuckin way lucia will beat this

how they gonna sell him?

It begins

>>880871 She'll be one of the ones I'll get. I love mecha, and she's a mecha pilot, so it's a perfect fit for me. I'll also get Orphie in the update. One thing I liked about the 2.2 material is how she occasionally responds to Magus. It made their relationship more interesting, instead of her coming across as a submissive, fail-girl soldier.

>>880902 he's a Lighter but for phys/ether

>>880893 No you aren't. WE are.

>>880902 Unless he really is Aizen, they won't. We already have 2 S rank punch/kick guys this guy does that too but looks 10 times worse.

I really now wonder how the Dev's themslevs feel about how they need to handle the idols? I'm sure they're aware that they're the most hyped up thing in the game right now, especially on their Japanese side and don't want to fuck it up and with every patch without them showing up the expectations get higher. I just wonder if they're straight up worried about putting them out now and keep changing shit cause of it.

>>880871 Yup.

>>880871 Yea she's cute and in this house we roll for mentally ill women

>>880903 she will violate everyone...

my meta brain says skip 2.2 and just get Lucia but Seed and orphie look so fun to play even if they aren't broken and then my gooner brain wants to fuck the octopus slut. these next 2 patches are going to be fucking hard to decide who to get. anyone else conflicted?

>>880910 Considering the idols are universally praised among their audience it'd be pretty hard to fuck them up, which is why Chinatsu's design is the same. They also registered those vtuber accounts for them a long time ago right?

>>880903 LOVECRAFTIAN BLOWJOB WOOWOO

HOLY FUCK I WANNA FUCK THIS THING PLEASE DAWEI

>>880913 >in this house we roll for mentally ill women post your burnice, miyabi, trigger and vivian NO BLUFFING

>>880915 My plan is throw a 50/50 on SNEED (since electric is lacking that Miyabi tier dps still) and pick up Lucia to finish Shifu's premium team. Then save for Zhao. Yiddy is probably the easiest skip since Miyabi exist.

>>880902 He certainly won't sell much, but women and gays like him, so it's a good thing for that audience. And for those who don't like it, it will be good to have a banner to skip and save polychromes.

>>880871 Not a single pull. Saving my guarantee for Orphie, then Lucia

>>880916 >They also registered those vtuber accounts for them a long time ago right? I think someone posted they had private Bilibili. accounts for each of them ready to go

>>880918 >>880907 >>880893

>>880915 I want to get everyone and I only have 200 tapes saved. I'm so fucked.

>>880871 Skipping for Orphie

>>880920 its not a bad plan my only issue with just pulling seed is who do you pair seed with outside Orphie? who is her second best teammate? i have trigger and her Wengine

Do these accounts even play the fucking game? Dullahan is the name of the very first ethereal you fight in the game.

>>880929 Nekomata unironically

>>880871 I have SS Anby so I hope I can get by with her, and just roll for Orphie for a SS Anby/Trigger/Orphie team. I can get close to 50k with SS Anby/Trigger/Astra, so maybe Orphie will be similar and Astra can be used elsewhere.

>>880893 I can't wait to see the contrast between this cute creature and how menacing and powerful she can be.

>>880041 Here's a SFW delivery. I'll be using a different scene for this position, though. But you might see it when it's time for Seed's release.

>>880910 They've been iterating on team attacks and off-field attacks since launch, I'm sure they pushed them back because they wanted to make an implementation they're happy with. Probably did the same for Yiddy (formerly Lucia), waited until they could figure out how to make a tanky DPS which then led to rupture.

>>880929 I have Toriga and Evelyn and that's what I'll use SNEED with

>>880932 >expecting gachahoppers to know anything about what they're talking about

>>880901 I hope at least one of her meet up events is pure nonsense >>880915 I have a guarantee for Seed and should have enough to coinflip Orphie. If I actually lose that coinflip though, then I seriously need to consider using it on Orphie for SAnby (getting a buff, and can work with Seed) or Lucia. And I can't even plan for Yid yet

>>880915 >anyone else conflicted? Yeah I think I'll grab Seed and Lucia for sure to have a bit of each and then I'm maybe gonna skip Orpheus, I think I could roll all 4 but that's probably not the best idea given we don't know what 2.4 could be. I might just throw a 50/50 at Orpheus and Yidhari and see who comes.

>>880871 I use the survey to ask for a cute girl piloting a mech

>>880938 Right, if anyone has any more ideas for videos with Seed you can just tell me.

>>880934 >Orphie ID It's a sign.

>>880946 something with feet sucking she's the footslut agent

>>880919 I only skipped Vivian because I lost the 50/50

>>880871 10 pulls as a sign of respect

does Orphie works as main dps?

>>880950 I actually haven't found anything like that, but it would be pretty high on the list.

>>880919 YOU Bibiposters told me to roll Bibi and I got Kotted

>>880955 If you get enough dupes, probably But if just getting her+engine, probably not

>>880955 Yeah, but the only main DPS gameplay we've seen is her with Lighter and Astra. Gotta wait until 2.2 for proper coverage of her cope teams.

We need more mibibi

duck and ferret/red panda thiren foreskinning?

>>880938 Thanks. This and the handjob were both my reqs so I shouldn't be greedy, but if you find any facesitting scenes it'd be super nice

>>880951 >>880957 you will get her on her rerun in 2.3, right? right?!?!

>>880932 Not only that but they also fucked up the actual irl mythology of Dullahans >Lighthouse keepers of cemeteries What the actual fuck does this even mean?

>>880963 >spoiler

>>880921 I have not seen anybody shill for him at all outside of here and even then only as an Aizen expy, Komano is far and away more popular than him. Blackwood would actually be the better choice here. >unique background >could be first S rank Male support >not a traditional fighter could have unconventional weapons and kit >a white suit in a sea of asian leotards But they're already working on Shiyuan being the S rank I guess so that's not going to happen. Then he'll be another justification for males not selling.

>>880901 does she think shes a bangboo

>>880963 haha good joke

>>880963 If I can manage it, of course.

>>880917 SEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

>>880915 I feel pretty safe, unless they put someone like bibi or shifu on 2.3 reruns.

>>880910 Mihoyo has always been bad about making a design and then figuring out the gameplay later. ZZZ has been much better than Genshin as at least ZZZ kits come out functional as oppose to the mess than is Genshin. I'm sure they are going to figure it out at the 11th hour. It is clear they understand how much people like them since they showed off one of them in the event despite the fact they are probably still a ways away.

Yiddy won

>>880966 I agree with you. I've seen a lot more Komano fan art, and I think Damian is one of the most interesting characters so far, with the most potential to be a support character. Maybe he's trying to capture Jiaoqiu's audience. I don't know if they prefer designs like his to Komano and Damian in Asia.

Alice ID = 10 pull

>>880976 Their initial gameplay concept (that we don't know) has most likely changed. The idols were conceptualised before the 1.0, and the agent gameplay has changed quite a bit with aftershock attacks and such, we even have a new class. Take Yidhari for example, she's a redesign of Lucia, who was most likely a Stunner agent back in the CBT. Now she's releasing as a Rupture agent

>>880977 It's a good reminder that this place is kind of filled with autists who hyper analyze designs cause the majority are obviously going to love a tentacle milf regardless of her details

>>880959 I wonder if she will work well with Trigger and Astra.

>>880963 Images like these almost made me pull for her...

>>880976 >Mihoyo has always been bad about making a design and then figuring out the gameplay later This was actually discussed in that article that was posted a dozen threads ago before the drip but they had some interesting tid bits about how they've been trying different design processes to see what works and they've actually been working from animations backwards to keep designs in line with what's actually doable in their time-frames.

Pulchra id pls.

>>880986 Zhu Yuans fat ass ID saved my pulls

>>880983 >Maybe he's trying to capture Jiaoqiu's audience. I don't know if they prefer designs like his to Komano and Damian in Asia. I don't know who that is, but I can tell you right now that design is much better than his from the thumbnail. If they think Ye is what the male rolling audience (straight, gay, women, etc) want, they're retarded. They would literally be better off bumping up Komano to S and then figuring something else for this guy later. I just don't see this guy selling at all, Lighter at least did well and apparently Homomasa is somehow popular despite being a rank tier in design, but this guy doesn't hold a candle to even him.

>>880915 I am probably the least conflicted I've been since launch. In the first half of 1.x I had to draw flowcharts to plan who I can roll for to have full guarantee for C0W1 Miyabi whenever she releases. In the second half every banner besides Eve and eventually Vivian because I hated her gameplay was competing for my pulls. At the start of 2.x I rolled for Yixuan, Astra and Fufu and was concerned I wouldn't have enough for every future agent I wanted. But Alice didn't end up being impressively fun so I only went to 50/50 on her and Seed ended up being a massive dud, so now I have saving for two patches in advance.

>>880963 you will be getting him in 2.3 too right?

Hugging boos

>>880985 My sugar mommy working hard every day.

>>881004 Not sure if it was really a reference to that but I also immediately thought of it

do we have a nickname for lucia

>>880988 ok but people on twitter are way more fucking cringe they way they talk saying shit like "Mommy" really tilts me

>>881015 Blucia?

SNEED ID

>>881015 the GOAT

>>881015 blucia

Gooning with my ID

>>880988 Where's the milf part? She looks barely older than Anby.

>>881003 This event fucking sucked but the payoff was worth it. Poor Jojo, I hope he can find his old master someday.

>>881028 good luck

>>881028 together? he probably has some useful gooning apparatus

>>880997 >Jiaoqiu >>880983 Yeah holy shit this design is way better than his. I'm not the biggest fan and I think it could be improved but Ye's not even close to looking this good. Unless he's got some Asura anger mode hiding behind his npc tier exterior I don't know who this guy is gonna appeal to.

>>881031 She definitely doesn't look "barely older" than Anby in game and her voice is very mature. Artists rarely give a shit anyway they'll draw her mature cause that's more in line with her archetype

>>881028 I bet enzo is into some freaky ass shit

>>881015 gote

>>881046 EXTREMELY RARE, ONE AND ONLY, 24K PINK WISE

>>880997 I agree with you, what makes Harumasa so popular, especially with women, is that he is very well written, I didn't care for him, and his agent story made him one of my favorite characters in the game, it made me invest and want to learn how to play him, even though he has a very average design. >>881042 The other guy is from HSR, and while people compare Ye to Aizen from Bleach, Jiaoqiu is more like Gin, also from Bleach, and he usually keeps his eyes closed. I know it's a popular archetype in Asia.

AAAAAAAAA I FOROGT TO REDEEM THE STREAM CODE

>>881015 gote

>>881056 Uninstall the game now nigga, you're BRICKED until the end of time.

>>881056 it's joever are people more excited about octussy, or gote?

>>881055 Oh I like Harumasa's character too, and I think his design is alright but I would never pull him. Thing is despite it being understated and some may say A rank like it's "decent" >The other guy is from HSR, and while people compare Ye to Aizen from Bleach, Jiaoqiu is more like Gin, also from Bleach, and he usually keeps his eyes closed. He's mostly compared to Aizen because his design is bland and looks very mild mannered, much like Aizen was intended to be. A mediocre mild mannered dad looking design hiding the cold calculating badass arancar mastermind design, his transformation was significant and so people are hoping that'll be his reveal. I think if that winds up being true then he'll be pulled for for sure but what would that even look like. >I know it's a popular archetype in Asia. What, Gin or Aizen? I feel like as a Gin design or one meant to be mild mannered he's exceptionally plain.

>>881015 milker

Did the devs say Sanby buffs are coming in 2.2 or are they in 2.3?

Can anyone give a qrd on all the Bleach characters people keep bringing up? I've only read Naruto out of the big three

>>881074 Pardon the confusion, but I'm talking about Gin's design. I've seen several characters with similar eye styles and personalities in various games and anime.

>>881080 They didn't specify exactly when they're coming.

>>881068 Yidhari looks fun, Lucia seems like she brings little to the table outside of number buffs unlike Astra and Yuzuha so I can see myself skipping her even if I decide to roll Yidhari.

Why are the threads so fast now? Even when I get an ID I like the thrad is already over in a few hours.

>>881089 They're not coming in 2.2, otherwise they would have showcased the buffs in the livestream. We don't know if they're coming in 2.3, they're not currently in the beta but when Ellen got her buffs, they were only added to the beta in the final beta version before the patch. So if they are coming in 2.3, then we'll know right before 2.3 releases

Anyone got the pastebin for the survey? I can't find it in OP. Also, >keep getting /zzz/ friend requests Not complaining but did I miss something? Weird that it keeps happening in batches >>880871 Nope. I am a robot enjoyer. Going for Orphie tho.

>>881089 Probably in 2.3. Her buffs aren't in beta yet, but if it's like Ellen's, her buffs won't arrive until the latest beta version.

>>880999 Female haru would have been so so awesome She would have a constant cough and still be lazy and all that They should have made kaku male instead of haru because it would be kino if he was nagis sworn guardian

>>881107 >Shota hunter Yanagi

>>880976 I wans pretty sure they aware how hyped up they are they showed the 2.0 trailer and didn't have them, but during the dev talk afterword's they showed a picture of them and went "No don't worry Idols are coming in 2X cycle". they probably know they need to do something with them and are aware. >>881095 Never trust a dude with his eyes closed like this in anime

with the help from the anons last thread, I finally made something! >>881090 goody two shoes lookin motherfucker turn out to be a huge 5d-chess villain

>>881098 I'm just wondering if she'll be a much better buffer than Pan. I want to replace him out of my Yixuan/Ju fufu team. But you are right, Yidhari does look quite nice. I won't have enough pulls for all of them!

I'm more excited about squidgirl. Her hammer berserker style looks fun

>>881109 Yeah and he would always say that hes the one thats supposed to protect her and be protective of her

>>880999 im surprised he still did not show up 2.3 will be 13 homomasa-less cycles if he does not show up ellen would also be in that ballpark, but she got a rerun already, so i'd guess we'd see 1st round reruns before the first 2nd round rerun with that in mind, in order homomasa 13 cycles sanby 10 cycles then by release order: vivian, hugo, yx... if sanby buff happens in 2.3, id say it would be smart she would rerun, along with homomasa i guess? dr ratio (closest to homomasa - free 5*) took 11 cycles for rerun, but came after 2nd rerun for a bunch of characters - being a free faggot is hard banner wise

>>881090 <This mf is very similar to Aizen (bleach character) But Aizen later revealed his power level as an evil giga nigga, so people speculate he might as well be like Aizen

I have lost my fourth 50/50 in a row and scientifically determined that this game hates me. Oh well. At least I got my noodle girl to M1 out of it and have a guaranteed Yidhari now.

>>881111 >afterward The dev talk was before the 2.0 trailer.

>>881105 https://pastebin.com/zYxHAk46 Reminder to read thoroughly in case there are points you disagree with and wish to edit/omit them.

I'M SORRY LUCK GODS FROM LAST THREAD YOU WERE RIGHT ALWAYS IMPULSE ROLL

>>881117 Welcome to the broadband-stealing club, anon.

>>881090 Alright, so basically durin Bleach's hypest arc when people cared a lot about it, the soul society arc where Ichigo goes to save Rukia there's this guy with the glasses. He's a kind understanding whimp of a man, he's not weak but he's not strong and his second in command is some weird cheshire cat motherfucker. He spends most of the arc being a decent dude and mostly non threatening. Then comes the end of the arc Ichigo saves Rukia from being exectured only for this guy to show up, take his glasses off and gain a billion aura. He winds up being the main antagonist of the series and also incredibly cool and powerful, betrays everybody and essentially does it to basically become god of hell and heaven. As you can see, his base design is intentionally safe and boring like Ye and he is the most memorable character from the series. >>881095 Oh, I get you now. Still every single example you show and I know of is better than what we have currently so I don't know if they can cook with this design.

>>881141 >>881090 His big reveal, since it didn't add to that post.

Gonna make all you guys formally apologize to my thigga Ye Shiyuan when he turns out to be a normal nice guy with a sister complex even greater than Wise's

Are Seed & Orphie complete at M0W1? Or do they have a M1 or M2 that's worth to get?

>>881090 Aizen: A huge egomaniac who is introduced as one of the nicest and most respectable characters. He has a major plot twist where he deceived basically the entire cast of the anime/manga, and does everything planned, making much of the anime/manga essentially his 5D Chess and being the biggest villain in Bleach, even though he's not the final villain. Gin: He's basically Aizen's right-hand man, but he's also a treacherous guy who plays dirty. He loves to play with expectations and has a slightly deeper side and a grayer morality despite being a huge jerk.

>>881111 I always loved the "I keep my eyes closed to hide my nasty personality" Its so dumb only the japanese could come with it

Is there going to be another melty when Ye is revealed to no be evil?

Analysis of 2.2 trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlxqGxWCd44

>>881149 i guess that depends on whether or not you consider aftershocks a part of seeds base kit since they are on her m2

white and gold

>>881156 safety my beloved

After coming back from my weekly weekend work rush and missing the entirety of the new agents drip beta and discussion, I have to say, I want to fucking murder them for butchering the Nun. She was my most anticipated unit and even though the model and animations are still there and look good still, even better when it comes to the face/head, the fact of her not being a nun really ruin it for, not only cause I liked what they took from us but because I have no fucking idea of what this new bitch is suppoced to be even or how it fits in a faction as lose as Spoock Shack? Also, the implications of the religious faction being delayed or not coming at all suck. On the other hand, Lucia, I dislike the name even when it was tied to the nun, we already have Lucy, and between this and all the chinkoid names that sound the same, it's starting to get silly. Anyways, I may still pull for her on design and animations alone, but I'll have to try her first. Her design also fits quite out of place, her body tho, fucking HEAVELY, humble top, shapely bottom is the best, but that boob window is screaming for more filling, so it's kinda bad they went for this proportions/outfit combo. Anyways, I may still pull for her on BS Ether Support capabilities. Also, really hope we see something about Zhao in the beta.

>>881068 Blucia has the better design but I've never look forward to an agent's gameplay as much as Yiddy's. Surprised it took them 10 patches for them to release another slow, heavy character.

>>881090 I typed up some long ass breakdown of Aizen but other anons summed him up much better already, so i'm just going to post my favourite moment of his Villain reveal. https://youtu.be/SzY0sB26NIo This man was probably the best part of Bleach's story.

>>881141 Unfortunately, Ye's design is pretty weak and doesn't sell very well. They could try to cook something up, but I have no idea what they can do.

>>881158 nevermind actually they just completely removed the aftershocks from her mindscapes and kit

>>881155 Nobody cares about him so probably not

>>881171 I'll get them both M0W1 and hope I'll have enough for octopussy

Is this Monster Musume?

>>881155 Probably not, the Aizen theory is just the only way we can see him becoming an appealing character in any shape or form. He's currently so boring and lackluster that I doubt anyone has enough energy to waste meltying over him. Worst case scenario, he ends up as a a ridiculously free skip banner.

>>881167 Yidhari's kit looks fun, I actually think Lucia looks pretty good for a support too, the summoner stuff is dope.

>>881181 Next Yuzuha needs to find an avian, and a dino thiren

>>880902 The devs will beat Miyabi's ownership rate by giving him away for free.

>>881155 if they turn him into an Aizen, he gets killed off, if he stays as is, he'll go down in history as the most unremarkable character in the game and the very definition of a skip banner, we win either way

>>881155 No, and in his case, I think it would help him gain more popularity than he would lose, because then he would have something, because right now he has nothing. Give him an evil arc and some dramatic moment with his sister and maybe some redemption. That's the only way I can see him being a character someone might like.

>>881181 There is so many of these now

The cougars are hunting...

>>881170 >>881192 He's gonna have to be the free S rank. Just a huge missed opportunity to make him S and not Komano if this is all he is, I doubt his gameplay would be better than Shifu to compensate.

>>881181 >>881196 >>881199 It would be funny if Yuzuha had a part-time job at the pet shop.

>>881206 I don't doubt they'll give him away for free, just like what happened with Harumasa.

The real nun

>>881166 I would fuck with this more if they gave new Yid the nun getup with the octopuss motif.

>>881209 I think I would just change the red details of the nun's outfit to purple, to match the tentacles and the rest of the design more.

It's been a while since they added new statues. Hope they make new ones for the increased shelf capacity next patch.

>>881209 skinwalker

My id will show up in my dreams and fuck my brains out.

>>881217 Yeah the purple is kind of jarring with the rest of her look. Either change the outfit to purple or change the tentacles to red

>>881196 FInd her a pikachu clone and she's ready to go on her journey

>>881218 They just announced new ones last stream

>>881221 hugo...

>>881221 gay

>>881166 From what I understand of Drip, does it seem like she's a writer? Obviously, the design doesn't sell that she is writer, and I think a nun obsessed with a Lovecraftian creature could have been a much cooler and more fun character, so to speak.

surely bibi won't rerun in 2.3 right?

>>881118 Right now I think her buffs are: >900 sheer force >20% DMG >30% Crit DMG while Pan(at M6) gives: >720 sheer force >30% DMG So she's certainly better, as anyone would expect, but the gap between them doesn't feel that crazy. The big thing for me though is that she doesn't seem to bring anything new with her unlike how Astra did with her quick assists duo style fighting or Yuzuha did with her anomaly matching build up. Those two feel impactful in how you play in addition to bumping up your damage, while Lucia seems to just bump up your damage. Plenty of time left on this beta though so things can change, and I could just be missing something when looking her over too so I'm not gonna lock in my decision or anything just yet of course

>>881209 That kinda looks like shit

What not rolling for a character does

>>881206 I hope our devs will alternate DPS and support welfares like HSR (DPS Ratio -> support HMC -> sub-DPS March -> support RMC -> DPS Redman -> sustain Dan Peter)

>>881243 There's a good chance it'll be her and/or Hugo.

>>881253 I'm so fucked

>>881243 With Eve and Trigger running next patch, I think that just leaves Sanby, Bibi and Hugo, right?

>>881209 The tits don't blend properly like the CBT ones did.

>>881253 as someone that wants 4 vivians and 1 lucia im fucked

>>881261 homomasa hasn't been reran in like 13 banners

>>881229 Nice. >>881243 Harumasa Hugo

>>881261 Pretty much, though Caesar already got rerun twice so they could also drop a random Ellen or something.

>>881243 It will be Sanby Harumasa

>>881246 One thing I don't like is that Lucia herself doesn't seem to be dealing Sheer damage. DPS Supports is something that actually inherently works, because despite not having the best move set to deal damage, self-buff is something that pushes most of them into the "not that bad" territory. But as she is now, she'll be missing out on like 90% of her own buff's value. The devs might easily compensate for that by giving her better than average MVs, but for me it's a feelsbad moment. I'd prefer if she dealt Sheer damage despite being a Support, but I guess that would go against the identity of Rupture class... Which is completely fucking arbitrary if we're being honest.

>>881266 They will rerun him on one of the Idol banners

>>881268 caesar rerun once only, with yx

Big things are happening on zzztok

Is the lullababy set BIS for every support, do I really have to farm half a dozen sets? AGAIN?

>>881273 >One thing I don't like is that Lucia herself doesn't seem to be dealing Sheer damage. What??

>>881280 I do not understand this sentence

In case anyone is curious, here is the banner history: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CL1c0g2-tAaalUnNRexqS_F8WVeMdmQrrlw5IQ9-0_o/edit?pli=1&gid=612262150#gid=612262150 >homomasa hasn't had a re-run in almost a year

>>881286 This is the curse of being a free character

Cornless Corn Cero

>>881275 with Fufu actually, but yeah she only got rerun once, not sure how I got that wrong...

>>881246 With her summoner gimmick I'd expect her to deal actually meaningful damage compared to Astra and Yuzu

>>881286 the children yearn for aids archer hoyo give them what they want and don't rerun vivian in 2.3 or with zhao

>>881246 >>30% Crit DMG Wouldn't this make her slightly suboptimal for a Jufufu Yi Xuan team. They're already drowning in critdmg as it is.

>>881284 Tell me where in that description is it mentioned that she's using sheer instead of attack for her mults.

>>881279 that suspicious early Astra rerun makes sense now...

>>881284 >What?? What "What??". Did you not read the text you took a screenshot of?

>>881286 What are the chances of them making Zhao one of the S ranks in 2.4 and putting Pulchra and Ben or Pan to be the A ranks of the banner on her? Just to have the first full furry banner.

>>881246 There can't be that big of a difference with 180 Sheer force, is there? You also run Jufufu on rupture teams so CD is a non-issue there. Maybe her multipliers will more than make up for it

>>881298 >>881301 I might be dumb, you have to understand this

Sheer force joins the PEN ratio and def shred club of no one knowing wtf it does

>>881284 Lucia isn't Rupture so unless it's just not stated in the kit she's supposed be dealing normal ATK scaling damage, so her only self buffs would be 20% affix and 30% CDMG

>>881246 You forgot she also gives 5% hp as well since that a damage increase

>>881306 All I need to know is bigger number = more damage

>>881306 Sheer is very easy to understand. It's used in place of the attack stat for rupture agents, that's all.

>>881273 Yeah that's another thing that stands out too, but since DPS supports aren't the norm I didn't think it warranted mentioning. It's awkward because her animations are actually pretty cool so the idea of fielding her more to see them is enticing, but it's clearly dissuaded

>>880963 she didn't want to come home if she didn't come over during the 50/50

>>881303 >putting Pulchra and Ben or Pan to be the A ranks of the banner on her? Just to have the first full furry banner. I think there's a good shot, but Zhao is probably the most "in the air" character we have right now. There are equal chances of her being S, A, or not even playable at all. I highly doubt the Void Hunter Zhao meme will materialize, but at the very least I hope she's the first Limited furry.

>>881308 To clarify, even rupture characters have to specify they deal rupture damage on certain attacks because it isn't inherent to the class.

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>>881313 Sheer Damage is just a built in PEN ratio

>>881243 2.4 is my guess

>>881329 ara ara~

Maybe they'll add Adaptive Force like in LoL, it's kinda awkward to have Lucia buff but not be a Sheer user herself.

>>881325 Are you sure? I'm not seeing it specified in any of the three Rupture kits

>>881322 We joke about her being a Void Hunter because it would be really fun, but I don't really believe that either. The only thing I really hope for is that she'll be our first Limited S-rank furry.

>>881265 just stop at M2 bro

>>881155 >>881154 its kinda hinted at he has a hidden side with the 2.2 teaser. He has a a line where he's talking with a cultist about achieving his wish, but there were theories back in 2.0 and 2.1 that he's trying to find a way to save his sister, so that may be it instead of something nefarious.

>>881342 If you believe hard enough then it will come true. That's what magic is

>>881309 Technically she doesn't give that, it's something innate to Ether Veil: Health which Yidhari can activate without her, but I guess in the case of a Yixuan team it would be something that gives her a leg up over Pan that's true

>>881156 Safety knows what's up.

>>881285 When youre finally resting after distracting yidhari so your homegirl (female friend) could fuck manato successfully but yidhari dragged you back for a second round of cuddling but the tentacles are lowkey (kind of) bone crushing

>>881332 Yes, that's why Yixuan (and we can assume future rupture characters) has typically 600-900 less sheer than attack compared to attackers. That's the amount of def enemies have in endgame, so rupture ends up doing the same damage as attack.

>>881298 >>881305 >>881316 I think they should expand her Core, or at least her AA to also have a line like >all Sheer Force Lucia receives is converted to ATK It'd be a neat little thing for her to have and it's nothing broken because she's a Support anyway. >>881316 >It's awkward because her animations are actually pretty cool so the idea of fielding her more to see them is enticing, but it's clearly dissuaded My thoughts exactly. I don't play DPS Supports myself, but as I saw her moveset I immediately thought about maybe trying to make on-fielding her work, and then I immediately realized how a Sheer Force buff would do fuck all on a non-Rupture agent.

>>881362 I bet they put that buff in one of her late mindscapes

Why the fuck did my ID change?

>>881316 I haven't read her kit yet, but is her gameplay the basic support gameplay of using EX and staying off field and only entering to use Ult or EX to maintain the Buffs?

>>881341 They should add something like this to Blucia, because she'll have to run triple HP% to max her buff anyway.

>>881351 Then I will believe enough for all of us.

>>881356 I was just pointing it out since it is a buff she has over him and would increase damage.

>>881325 >>881341 You can see it with Komano, his core says all of his fire damage is sheer damage but he also has physical damage in his kit so that would just be normal damage

>>881367 >6. Mindscape 06 >While Lucia is within any [Ether Veil], her ATK increases by 2% of her initial max HP; [Grand Echo Strike] will always CRIT, and when [Grand Echo Strike] lands a CRIT, CRIT DMG is increased by 30% Shit, they're actually doing it

>>881351 Then I'll believe it, for the sake of the mass destruction bunny.

>>881372 It's kidna weird they don't have that, but this is just the beta for someone that is 2 and half banner's away right now.

>>881386 I mean that disgusting, but all Mindscape 6's are like that

zhao being the gigamysterynigga i want is throwing the rolling/saving plans into disarray

explain the appeal of Zhao to me

I really want Zhao to be borderline Bangboo size

>>881401 Small, furry, smug.

>>881372 >>881380 Damn, I never noticed, it actually is not inherent to the class. And it also suggests HP scaling might in fact be a Rupture thing that'll just manually be put in every passive

>>881401 cute and funny

>>881371 That's what it looks like to me, she uses her EX once every 20 seconds to apply her sheer and crit dmg buff and then she has aftershocks for her 20% dmg buff

>>881401 small character big weapon is cool, small fluffy bun who can drop a titanic ethereal is peak. It's just gap moe.

>>881401 Tiny cute deathmachine

>>881401 You either get it or you don't

>>881386 Yes? Thats deep whale territory I dont know where is the fun in breaking the game by forking several thousand bucks

>>881401 she's going to be voiced by someone who does bratty VA on the regular

>>881386 I mean atleast for whale niggas they added something like this. fufu and trigga niggas got zilch for a dps playstyle

>>881372 I thought about that as well, but it wouldn't work actually, because Lucia has no inherent Sheer Force. And while Sheer DMG is currently not explicitly inherent to Rupture, Sheer Force is. So she either has to >be a Rupture herself new Support set will stop working and she loses access to broken Support balls >have baseline Sheer Force despite not being a Rupture goes against the class identity (which is arbitrary tbh) >have MVs that account for her personal Sheer Force only scaling from 0 to 900 Impossible to balance - either it's permanently garbage or it's fine and will inevitably become broken when the third Sheer Force Support she can work with is added to the game. IMO, if the Sheer Force to ATK conversion is the easiest solution, even if it's the most boring one. A potentially interesting approach, especially if the devs are fine with Sheer DMG not being exclusive to Rupture, is to have only some of Lucia's attacks (like the Great Echo thing) deal Sheer DMG on top of regular damage, as a separate instance. Then it can be scaled to the aforementioned 0~900 Sheer Force range, and because it will still be just a part of her overall damage output, disproportionally scaling it via Sheer Force stacking won't be a big deal for the purpose of balancing her.

>>881401 Very similar appeal to Yordles if you know what those are.

>>881431 God damn imagine a shortstack thiren with Vex's personality in this game I'd fuck the shit out of it

>>881322 I like the meme idea but I'm not married to it, I just want her to be fun she's already sexo

>>881401 pocket princess

>>881424 IIRC all agents have an inherent base sheer force value even if they aren't rupture - it's just a stat they can't interact with under normal circumstances. don't quote me on this though but i remember seeing this when looking at agent stats on hakush.in or one of the other stat websites

>>881371 >using EX and staying off field Yeah basically >manage a resource meter called dream >at 100 points she activates ether veil and enters dream state >in dream state she can aftershock and consume dream to empower her echo strikes >great echo strikes deal additional damage = 200% of her health and apply her buff >everything besides BA 1-4 and dash attack is an echo strike and gives dream So like Yuzuha you don't HAVE to play her but you can.

>>881424 Make it so Lucia doesn't deal Sheer damage but her summons do. Even ATK conversion would be kinda pointless because she's running full HP% discs

>>881445 Wait so does Lucia want HP% substats(and the inevitable crit rate/crit damage)? Then 2pc of Yixuan set would do well on her..

>>881442 Ye shunguang is gonna be a rupture off-fielder voidhunter that adds sheer force ratios to all damage the team does as the final gigashilled solution to miasma shields, Dawei i'm available to hire

>>881435 Do I spy dolphin shorts!?

>>881449 Pretty sure she needs 23000 hp or something close to that to give the full sheer force buff

>>881444 Interesting, I was afraid she would be another case like the Astra where you press a button and forget that her exists.

>>881442 The base sheer is just the sheer force you would get from base hp and atk.

>>881456 Will she want HP% as her main stat at 4, 5 and 6 disks then?

>>881444 Astra is getting FUN-crept once again...

>>881463 Most likely. Unless you get insane hp rolls on your disks

>>881459 HP > sheer force is not an inherent function of the engine, it's something that's explicitly defined in the rupture characters' passives. it's kinda weird that it is like this since so far they haven't made any rupture characters that DON'T convert HP > sheer force, but i suppose they wanted to leave the door open? kinda seems like it's not gonna happen if the dedicated rupture support also buffs HP though. with that said, the ATK > sheer force conversion is an inherent part of the engine so it doesn't really change my point. every character has sheer force, its just only rupture characters can do anything with it.

>>881468 There's nothing wrong with having a <press EX and forget character like Astra so you can only focus between 2 agents and not 3 to refresh buffs

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>>881444 Her kit is cracked and her animations are good but i really wish it was she looked better. Yiddy mogs her so hard its not even funny

>>881456 >>881463 I'm in danger My substat rolls always suck ass

>>881482 Think of it this way: Rolls falling into HP are actually good now.

>>881474 Maybe it is inherit to rupture because every one of them has the same scaling. Also, if you go to interknot and look at a non-rupture agent's sheer, it's calculated in the same way with .1 per hp and .3 per atk.

>>881476 the issue is that no one wants their favorite to be the cuck character relegated to just being an off-field buffer. it's better if even the supports have some field potential so that people can see more of their characters even if you don't have to field them often. i personally appreciate astra being so absent though since i only rolled her for meta and would rather just play the agents i like

>>881482 Put all your discs in a attacker agent and pretend you are rolling for ATK/Crit substats

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>>881474 Well, I don't doubt that it's a way for us to have other supports in the future that buff sheer force using other stats.

>>881442 No, on Hakushin specifically only Rupture agents have Sheer force. The differences between Rupture is the rest is that Rupture doesn't have PEN, PEN Ratio, Energy, and Energy Regen. Instead, they gain Sheer Force, Adrenaline, and Adrenaline Regen. Everyone has "access" to those stats - in the sense that you can check them in the pause menu, but for Sheer Force specifically, only Rupture agents can convert ATK to Sheer Force. As of now, all current and announced Rupture agents can also convert HP to Sheer Force, but it's not being treated as something inherent to the class itself. Sheer DMG is currently in the same boat as HP Sheer Force scaling - all Ruptures have it, but for all of them there's currently a deliberate clause noting it being present.

damn, i didnt know corn was built like that

>>881401 Cute fuzzy and small, like a talking and living plushie

>>881449 Yeah, her buff scales with health and she needs 23k to max it. Luckily you can activate her buff without EX so she doesn't need ER6. HP 4, 5, 6 + sig + hp 2pc gives you 21697.1 health so you'd need 6 HP substats. No sig gives you 19154, so you'd need 16.

>>881480 Howdy

>>881243 She might because she is ether, it would make no sense to run Anby and Hugo so Yi Xuan and Vivian are more likely.

>>881498 i see well, i think the idea of specifically making her summons deal sheer dmg is probably the best idea since ATK is a useless stat for her personally and it would allow her to make use of her own buff without necessarily encroaching on making her a pseudo-rupture character. alternatively, it seems like the devs want rupture to be more of the hypercarry archetype now, even more than attackers, so they might just not want her personal damage to be very good. we'll see, we're not even a week into the beta.

>>881505 That's insane, but I guess I don't expect any less for hoyo now making W-Engines pretty much needed. I wish they'd just remove the 75/25 for w-engines

Goat and Yiddy better have extremely erotic namecards

>>881501 She is hiding a delicious ass and thighs under her bloomers

>>881526 They're already prepping for dual rupture teams. Manato is a rupture agent that wants to be paired with another rupture through his additional ability.

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>>881528 the 16 roll count doesn't account for flat HP subs on your HP% discs which can probably reduce the threshold by 3-4 rolls. you also don't need to max the buff. getting even 90% of the value is still going to be more than good enough.

>>881419 Funny thing she doesn't sound bratty in JP

what if they shadow updated general chop and the buffs work on bosses but no one gets ramen anymore so no one knows about it

>>881535 i'm not convinced his kit stays like that given how restrictive his team options are, honestly. it seems like a bad way to try and give him more synergy with his faction that isn't necessary, but we'll see what happens.

>>881537 Mm, similar to how Ju Fufu works? I still haven't gotten her ATK to 3400 to max her buff, I think I'm at like.. 3380 or something and I just cannot get 1 disc that'll increase it just over that threshold.

>>881526 >it seems like the devs want rupture to be more of the hypercarry archetype now, even more than attackers I think Rupture is designed to be more of quick-swap archetype. Adrenaline has massive inherent regeneration (2 vs 1.2 for Energy) and their personal kits tend to have access to some conditional Adrenaline Regeneration Rate increase (Yidhari's is currently behind a Mindscape thought), but the active regeneration tends to be much worse than what Energy agents get, ER% does nothing, and so do all direct Energy restoration effects (like some Support Ultimates). So the idea seems to be that for Rupture, you lose less when you switch you main DPS off-field - it's fine to cycle between the burst and the setup for that burst, closer to what the devs had in mind for the OG Attackers. But pretty much all OG Attackers ended up doing better with a hypercarry approach, even the "burst" ones like Corn. Hugo is the only one that functions like an actual Burst attacker, but he has a problem, where you on-field him about as much as you'd on-field Lucy, so it's also not a great solution.

>>881541 I cannot remember the last time I got noodles...

>>881566 Trust - Threat from the old capital

>>881560 >Hugo is the only one that functions like an actual Burst attacker, but he has a problem, where you on-field him about as much as you'd on-field Lucy, so it's also not a great solution. on the contrary, killing your enemies in a single hit is the most efficient solution to most problems. when's the hugo rerun?

>>881548 I still find it bizarre that the conditions to activate his Additional are Rupture and Fire, I know he's supposed to be a sub-dps, but I still find it weird that for now he really only has synergy with Yidhari. (I know it was the same case with Pan with Yuxian, but isn't he supposed to be the Rupture Budget?)

The leader of Spook Shack doesn't synergize with half her team WTF

Is there any ice agent left that actually uses polar metal lol