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/zzz/ - Zenless Zone Zero General Anonymous 09/16/2025 (Tue) 02:42:23 Id: a164a6 No. 980375
Previous: >>977803 >News Agent Record | Yidhari https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40707205 Agent Record | Komano Manato https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40688172 Agent Record | Lucia https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40687818 Version 2.2 Special Program https://youtu.be/-WZRmhZWcfU >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo https://youtu.be/QKJj_AUOMTY (EN) https://youtu.be/B42cNUVgzWU (JP) https://youtu.be/yVudzVUiBBQ (EN) https://youtu.be/pqOJai2C7S0 (JP) https://youtu.be/LENKDAuyIwc (EN) https://youtu.be/67IxXAtJelE (JP) >Upcoming Events for 2.2 https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/159176 All-New Program 09/03 - 10/14 Floral Voyage Into the Unknown 09/03 - 10/13 Band of Brave Bangboo 09/05 - 10/13 Wish Bottle Adrift 09/05 - 09/29 Spotlight Showdown 09/13 - 09/29 Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 09/18 - 09/23 "En-Nah" Into Your Lap 09/24 - 10/14 Problem Soldier Boot Camp 09/24 - 10/09 Rhythm Rave 09/29 - 10/13 "En-Nah" Treasure Hunt 10/04 - 10/13 Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 10/09 - 10/14 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online) https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption ZENLESSGIFT ZZZ22OBOLSQUAD >Resources and useful links https://rentry.org/zzzlinks https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends https://interknot-network.com >/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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Zhao
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>>980379 its been yiddy and anby only for the past like five threads what the fuck
My ID drunkenly raped me in a hotel and only realized what happened the morning after, forever changing the trajectory of our relationship
zhaoless zhaone zharo
<- mentally ill (fuckable) wife
>>980252 The ball is in your court.
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belle id again, I'll take it
Hags ID
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Playing my ID in Street Fighter 6 (They only play top tier)
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Titjob from my ID >>980380
Naizuri it is...
i'm humping my id's feet
Obol Id for a good thread
Sex with my ID
shiting in my id's ass
My id's anus around my shaft.
VICTORY
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woke up wearing my ID's underwear with no recollection of what happened last night
Manifesting JK ID
Having a date with my ID
uhhh anby has hot feet I guess sure i'll hump them
ID falling asleep with her head on my shoulder...
ACAB
>>980416 i'm had a stroke don't judge me
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My id spit in my mouth and I swallowed
>>980396 mai gaming
An Eous is fine too
And I’d do it again
>>980383 twiggy would do this
>>980424 i get it, okay?
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Script for hiding APNGs. https://pastebin.com/raw/PiEbWpZc
Yidhari is stupid and deals no damage
>>980434 okay, that's it
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>another month of this before 2.3
Jane rerun when? I want to use her with my m1/w1 Alice.
SEED SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Spanking my ID's fat sexy ass
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I want zhao lore I want zhao lewds I want zhao gameplay I wish I could timeskip 2.3 for zhao
What’s the difference between “sex” and “sexo”
>Lucia Sexy goat squatting on Random Play's AC unit outside
GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH SEX WITH MY ID
>>980468 People will look at this bunny and feel no sexual desire somehow
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Zhao ID get!
>>980470 i think it comes from a sound snippet where someone screams sex in portuguese (sexo) and it stuck as a meme
i miss Venus
We need more edgy agents.
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>>980472 FUFU SEX
>>980473 I need my portable bunn onahole agent NOW
Getting lovey-dovey with my ID in front of bibi
>>980501 fight of the century
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how long until zhao drip?
>>980499 Plot twist: she uses you as the onahole
>>980507 3 to 4.5 weeks, depending on how hard Zyl wants to troll.
>>980507 Every zhao lewd picture posted reduce the time by one second
My ID deals fent behind the 141 on Sixth Street.
I admit it I would a Labubu
>>980507 Every zhao lewd picture posted here delay it by 3 minutes
>>980435 Are there actually a lot of people here who dislike apngs or is it just one schizo
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>this soon FUCK
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>>980531 that's a photoshop isnt it
Wrestling with my ID >>980531 Trying to read Chinese with my ID
>>980531 post the Isolde puddle one
Deleting my ID
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Sex with my id
I'm once again asking for Mibibi skin
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<- what does she even do?
Post ass so I use my first onahip
>>980556 Hype moments and aura while our TRUE teacher and guardian yixuan shifu takes things seriously
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Having sex with my little sister while my ID watches
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>>980564 Ellen wonnered
>>980564 wait-
>>980564 Eh? Your real sister?
>>980572 Close your eyes Belle
how do seedfags get the seed id's consistently
>>980584 You just notice Seed more often cause she's eye catching.
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>>980580 I don't want Seed or Ellen! I want Belle- Well I got her ID so I can't really complain.. Also the new Vanguard signup is for 2.4, maybe I'll see some of you fags in the round table
6 minutes until nothing
5 minutes until orphsex
It's fucking nothing
>>980603 is this nothing girl hot? i wanna fuck also
3 minutes until full-body Magus reveal
>>980606 Already happened bro
Why are we counting down on a Monday between patch banners when beta just updated?
>spend all my poly >no orb >orphie coming next patch >completely dry on pulls ha ha man, this sucks
Obol ID = 10 pull Idol / Zhao ID = IK pass
Oh, Roland...
>>980610 fufus fat ass ID saved my pulls
>>980607 there goes my Zhao savings
The fufu id used to be something rare and special…
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what the fuck is her problem?
>>980614 that is how she works, yes
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>>980619 Holy fucking ID roll
>>980619 >Ywn be stuffed in a concrete tube with a weird girl What's even the point
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>>980630 >What's even the point rolling for whores in gacha games
Seed is single footedly keeping this general alive.
>>980634 You're right, can't give up hope until I roll Zhao
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>>980639 based + true + kino
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Now feeturing Obol Squad
Is SAnby getting any new animations?
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>>980652 According to jstern, but there's no video yet
>>980652 I hope her Beyblade spin returns
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>>980652 dawei please bring back spinning from 1.6 beta
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>>980652 Presumably White Thunder Execute is a new animation
Give S11 new animations, hers suck.
My ID will whisper sweet nothings in your ear.
Your favorite agent + their ace pokemon Meeb and aegislash
From what I've seen on here
Has Seth even worked with the proxies at some point? Beyond just happening to be on the same side in certain cases.
>>980686 Nope, no agent story, no commissions with him, nothing. Shows up in 1.1 by himself with jane and only interacts with us by extension of other NEPS officers
>>980681 kinda sad how right now its ANTON'S TIME now that he has insane sinergy with seed+astra+trigger but no one really cares about using it at all
>>980688 Hey thats not a pokeyman…
>>980677 Trigger
>>980691 sadly anton is too bricky and has no waifu-factor for anyone to have him built
>>980691 Anton is not fun, and not in the “haha brick” not fun way
>>980677 vivian and crobat getting on field just to u-turn out
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>>980612 Finished up getting the last few things for Orphie now Ill just farm disks now. Swag Jazz and Shadow Harmony it is.
>>980692 My bad. I meant Soukaku and Veemon.
>>980700 i suggest farming new moonlight lullaby support set 2p is also ER but not a brick like swing jazz
>>980691 I would if I didn't have to use the wheel chair and spam QA to get a decent score, its not fun
>>980677 burnie and arcanine no white woman jokes allowed please
>>980677 Pokemon is such a shit game and series, I have no idea how it has remained popular for so long.
>>980719 your dad
>>980719 its not that bad it just happened the usual with stuff that never dies because its very profitable, it becomes shit because people doing it dont have the passion and/or were not part of the original concept
>>980719 first mover advantage all the kids that grew up with it now become pokemans whales cracking $500+ boxes
>>980719 good designs multimedia megafranchise means almost everyone can find at least one part of the series they enjoy
>>980719 Biggest IP in the entire world that's how
>>980677 I think Cubone has Corn energy.
>>980721 >>980723 >>980726 I played Pokemon Yellow as a kid and liked it, and then I got the next game and thought "wtf I already played this game"
Kek crossed up my ID and they fell, everyone saw and is now laughing at them
Yiddy Squiddy
>>980730 yeah its pretty formulaic after the third generation i was already done with it, but then i got into competitive i bought the carts and just rushed the games to unlock breeding and link battles, doing nothing aside from that, they got my money until 6th gen after that even competitive became shit so now its fully over lust provoking zenless zone zero image
Mibibi would play VGC
>>980721 It's funny that people thought Pokemon would become a fad.
>>980728 I've seen plenty of videos about how BDSP was a terrible game, worst in the series whatever. And then I saw my little cousin with his switch at the dinner table playing it. He showed me and said "Look I got a geodude" and then spammed tackle for an hour. That's who these games are made for. We can reminisce about how "__ gen was the best" or how "the series stopped being good at gen _" but their main sales are kids who do not give a shit and parents who want to give them what they want.
>>980738 >He showed me and said "Look I got a geodude" and then spammed tackle for an hour.
what does she want?
>>980755 money
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Okay bros, I feel like I've made some big mistakes lately in regards to my account/roster. I had been saving for quite a while and had 340 pulls saved up. At the time I had no limited electric characters and I was getting tired of Terror Raptor and fighting an uphill battle against the new DA boss and shit, so I said fuck it... I rolled for Seed and lost the 50/50 for her. Then I realized I should pick up Trigger too because everyone always talks about how fucking good she is on top of being great for Seed, who I just rolled.. Lost the 50/50 for her as well. And since its Trigger she needs her wengine too.. Lost the 75/25 for that as well. Basically, it took me like 330 pulls to get m1r1 Seed and m1r1 Trigger. THEN I find out that Seed kinda sucks as far as damage goes... Great, I rolled a brick.. Thats the first time in ZZZ that I've rolled a shit character. I told myself it was bound to happen eventually I guess. THEN I learned that Trigger has kinda fallen off in the meta, so that's great too, fuck me. BTW I had around 310 pulls at the end of Alice's banner, and I have m2r1 Jane Doe... I could have gotten Alice's m2 and had and INSANE team with Yuzuha, but instead I blew it on 2 bricks and 2 balls. I'm so stupid bros... My question to you all is - Will Orphie help unbrick Seed? Or should I just cut my losses and start saving for the rupture support girl coming up? Help bros
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>>980688 jesus christ just look at chinatsu's tits
>>980762 >330 pulls to get m1r1 Seed and m1r1 Trigger this is insane luck anon unless you are mistaking m0 for m1 trigger is not a brick and its very flexible seed is decently good, and she is missing a bis partner for now
>>980765 Yes I meant m0r1, sorry I'm retarded
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>>980702 I was about to say does it really matter and then I remembered that its the best Support disk set now, id be basically getting the same thing and the extras can go to my supports. Good lookin out.
>>980762 You're just a retard in general. Seed and Trigger are both good, but you'd be better off learning how to play the game than just rolling for more units if you're actually struggling to clear shit.
>>980767 in that case, 330 pulls for 2 m0w1 is average luck (limited agent avg 105, limited ball avg 60 = 330) i don't know what you are expecting but both these agents can perform well today and you should have ZERO issues clearing stuff, moreso since you have M2 yx and M2 jane m0w1 seed + trigger + any attacker should net you a 40k+ score on defiler with m2 jane and m2 yixuan i don't even need to comment on fiend and priest orphie has synergy with seed for sure and you don't have an "obvious" fit for seed, but really, any attacker works its up to you if you prefer to nab lucia for yixuan, m2 yixuan shouldn't have issues so maybe you want to invest in agents that have less vertical on them, unless you are looking for consistent DA kills
>>980762 Why do retards always type a lot of words
>>980771 I don't struggle to clear anything. I usually score like 120k in DA and Shiyu is a breeze. I guess more or less I just figured its time to roll a limited electric attacker. I'm sure Seeds fine... I guess I'm just pissed at how many rolls to took to get them. So is Orphie looking good for Seed and Trigger?
>>980777 Do you like orphis? Then roll her Lol why do you care so much about endgame when you clearly don’t know much about it saying trigger has “fallen off” she’s better than she was like 2 months ago
>>980762 Just save for Lucia and Murphy, Seed + Trigger are perfectly fine without Orphie
>>980774 I guess I'm just now realizing I've been a huge luckshitter up until now. That amount of rolls for what I got felt terrible idk. Also why are people shitting on me? That's halfchan behavior.
I don't have SAnby and I don't plan on pulling her, but I need some insight on what the biggest complaints about her was. Her new changes look good but I have no idea what I should be watching for in terms of her moveset and certain changes, in better words I can't find anything crazy bad with her original kit and people who complained are big babies that probably don't know how her silver star mechanic works
>>980782 No grouping, could get knocked out of her special attacks at awkward times
>>980781 I don’t think it’s “halfchan behavior” to call someone retarded when they’re being a metafaggot and not even knowing what the meta is
>>980781 >I've been a huge luckshitter its always good to be a luckchad kek, you just had the average gacha experience now >why are people shitting on me? i guess you were a bit hyperbolic by calling ball'd seed and trigger bricks, so people may take you for a retard, i'd much prefer to assume you just had limited information
>>980781 >why are people shitting on me? You made a long retarded post entirely about metafaggotry while also not knowing the meta and complaining about roll RNG despite having average luck. I shit on anyone who rolls for characters they don't like for meta reasons.
>>980778 >>980785 >>980787 Jesus, the attitude on these guys... Sorry for coming to a forum where people discuss the game and asking a fucking question, fags.
I'll leave you all to your riveting discussion in your dead ass thread on a dead ass board. K bye
>>980782 >I need some insight on what the biggest complaints about her was. When she first released, she had a weird dodge attack that left her vulnerable instead of being invincible like everyone else. They fixed that. Now there's still a weird delay after her third skill that makes it easy to get hit, which they're fixing. She also has 0 AoE which sucks on the first wave of SD
>>980762 lolwut? trigger is still the best general purpose stunner in the game and likely will be for some time to come. seed is good as-is. orphie is not really seed's best attacker partner. both of them will work better with sanby. both orphie and seed enable dual attackers, just in a different way. orphie is if you have an attacker you want to keep on-field. seed if you want her to be the primary on-fielder, like running her with neko or orphie, though orphie's atk buff is really wasted on seed so all she does is do off-field ex to keep vanguard up. if you run seed with sanby you can split dps duties 50/50, and that's going to be insane against elec weak bosses anyway, with that roster any trouble you have in endgame is skill issue
>>980791 Lol bro is sensitive
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lmoa
>>980791 Lmao no wonder u think seed is a brick you actually browse halfchan and take them seriously enjoy getting advice from those "people"
i tried guys
>>980680 I still talk about Grace, she's my only anomaly agent and I use her with Yuzuha. As for Billy and THE CHAMP, I post them all the time. Same with HuGOD. I really gotta take a crack at drawing Seed SR and Hugod one more time, just too busy.
>they still play pokemon in current year
>>980762 >will orphie unbrick seed? She's not a birck with her ball which you have, you also have Trigger, so you can run literally any attacker with her and be good like Homasa. You also have Mibibi, Lycaon and Soukaku so that's another S+ team alone with yuzuha jane and Alicve with Alice soon to be m2 when you get the re run. You also have THE CHAMPION ,Gremlin and Eve. You have like 4 or 5 viable teams you're not bricked, just pick your favorites and invest vertically from now on. Orphie might be the last agent you want to pull for a while though. Might want to run Pulchra and pan with Yixuan without fufu tho
>>980806 mmm yes, more chubby grace I'm going to make her work with an anomaly team with yuzuha somehow. I was trying to use Rina but I don't have her m1 yet, and grace doesn't have her ball yet.
>>980782 - No grouping, terrible AOE, extreme trouble with normal mobs - BA4 has a garbage animation and tracking. Since her BA3 pulls her backwards, if the enemy also backsteps a bit, she will just dash in place because it doesn't lock on to enemies more than a short distance away. Hilariously, the bipedal mech added around her release time does in fact backstep, so this issue was incredibly blatant using her in that first electric-weak Shiyu after her release. - Really wants to dodge counter because it half-fills her mark, but her BA filler makes dodge countering shittier than it would be on another character due to all the forced movement in her BA chain. Compare this to a previous dodge-counter-heavy character, Jane, who has lots of movement in her animations but it's all flair and doesn't affect the position of her hitbox like SAnby (only Jane's finisher displaces her through the enemy, and enemy AI has an easier time dealing with 1 dash VS 5). Really fucking weird design decision. I can sit there and get dodge counters for days on like, fucking Piper, but the character who greatly depends on it will just miss perfect dodges for no fucking reason. - Missing iframes between EX and special and at the end of her ult (only agent that I'm aware of that can be knocked out of their ult animation) - Somewhat underwhelming performance in her best team
>>980782 she still has some clunk in her kit, the fixes are going to make her overall smoother to play and bring her damage up a bit. you'll still need skill to play her >>980811 I wish they'd fix qingyi's dodge too
The only clunk I feel about sanby is that her dodge for some reason often goes too far making me miss the follow up attacks. Other than that I have no idea what people are saying. Also timing to be able to dump max resource damage every stun timing i guess.
Victoria zhaosekeeping
>>980560 any recommendations? been thinking of getting one for some time now normal ones were already great when paired with zzz content cant even imagine a whole hip
>>980811 >- Somewhat underwhelming performance in her best team That's not true. Anby might be a little clunky but her damage is fine. My m0w0 Sanby with m0w1 Trigger and Astra still can do 40k on the defiler. If this buff goes live, she will literally become the strongest unit in the game by a large margin.
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>>980839 good that will make her lore-accurate
>>980840 >sanby buff coincides with reveal that she's a clone of yixuan/her sister kino
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confucius say, she who eats the most borgar is the most powerful under the heavens
>>980840 I'm sure they'll nerf her damage but keep all the qol, which is still a massive win. I'd rather have an extra trust event though.
>>980839 >her damage is fine M0R1 SAnby could barely kill an 82m HP Typhon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BuIDhL8yl0 She needs M1 Trigger to kill 89m Typhon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUrK-WsnHwA Evelyn, with M1 Astra, can kill 89m HP Typhon through fire resistance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTPjVC4qQPQ You'll forgive some of us for saying she is underwhelming in comparison to other non-VH limiteds.
I just got m2 Lycaon from a random master tape roll at around 80 rolls till pity. Is it any good for monoice or useless? Also I wish Lycaon was a loli.
>>980849 I'm talking as an average player. I did 45k last time on typhon with Anby and I usually score around 40k on Pompei with full m0w1 eve, fufu and astra team. Also, it's not really a fair comparison because Typhon is a jobber, and Eve engine, lighter, and M1 Astra turn the fire resistance into negative resistance anyway.
>>980855 None of Lycaon's mindscapes are good, he's the strongest he'll be at M0.
>>980855 yeah lycaon is one of the best standards fossil ball is good enough, make sure to properly level his skills though as for mono ice yuzuha is simply better, lycaon however works for it too
>>980860 The first two are alright actually. EX is the button he presses most often after all.
>>980855 Loli maid Lycaon makes me feel things
>>980849 >comparing m0 trigger with M1 ASTRA Nigger
>>980693 wouldnt she be more of an intelleon
>>980859 >as an average player If her ceiling isn't comparable that cascades down to all performance levels. >Typhon is a jobber Which should make it even more in her favor. Hell, wheelchaired CORN can nearly kill the fucker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4jnbEwZAvM >Lighter OK so you didn't watch the video. >>980866 I compared M1R1 Trigger with M1R0 Astra, did you not click the fucking videos?
>>980846 >eat burgs >unlock several realms in one lunchtime that few cultivator can in a lifetime
>>980869 >click my videos No, buy an ad. Also average players don't give a shit about killing DA bosses.
>>980861 I have two of his sig if that helps.
>>980866 His point was that, SAnby struggled with an electric weak boss, but Astra and Eve can kill fire resist bosses. If a Trigger who is M1W1 can't help SAnby kills an electric weak boss, but Evelyn can, that's telling to her overall effectiveness. Allegedly that's solved now
>>980869 If you want an actual comparison you should have done sanby with m1w0 astra too retard.
>>980877 And my point is that it's retarded because I guarantee that m1 astra is still a lot better than m1 trigger. Hell why not just play m1 astra and m1 trigger for both.
Bros…. I miss the streetlight-dappled sidewalks of Sixth Street…
>>980876 that helps alot skills are still very important overall
>>980882 You know it's still there right.
>>980882 Just go there?
>>980869 >Which should make it even more in her favor. Not really. Typhon makes stunner shit because it stuns itself, and it’s a shit boss if you’re running a full electric team since it stops stunning itself when it’s shocked. >didnt watch the video Yeah. I admit that one. The fairest comparison you can make is against a boss who isn't fire or electric weak if you want to compare Anby and Eve damage.
>>980880 This is a fair, point, you'd think being elec weak with buffs for Trigger and vice versa it'd be enough to clear though being element weak.
Picking up my ID like this
>>980883 I still need to level his skills and get good discs too.
>>980895 Hugo...
>>980895 burnice will save you
>>980849 Evelyn vs Typhon is a non-argument. Yes, Typhon resists Fire. But Eve's weapon happens to give RES shred to her primary source of damage - CA and Ultimate. On top of that, Typhon also takes (as in it's an additional multiplier) more damage from CA and Ultimate - which happen to be Eve's primary source of damage. Typhon is as Eve shill as it gets with the sole nuance of being Fire RES instead of vulnerable.
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>>980380 >wake up >Yid's tits increase is real I'm happy
>>980900 female Lycaon goes crazy, when are we getting his hot sister. On that note, what agents would be cooler as men and vice versa.
>>980900 Thanks for always having my back burnice
>>980905 Remember the NEPS wolf-girl that was in that one cutscene?
>>980908 No, but I remember the wolf/fox thiren that hangs out in front of the hairsalon in a pencil skirt
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>>980905 Fox Vergil.
>>980905 zhaos performance will be the deciding variable for the amount of furry agents in the future
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good morning
>>980915 Not furry enough for me. Also not to my tastes for human broads. >>980919 I suppose so, I wonder how well she'll actually do and if she'll get fucked like some other banners by being between void hunters.
Three times her height!
>>980928 5'11 with a 6'0 sword... I kneel...
>>980928 Heres hoping her animations do her justice
>>980930 this is one aspect you should have no worries about, is there even a single character in the game that has shitty animations besides like... anton or some shit?
>>980932 Pulchra's are limited, and Anton I guess are the only two that come to mind.
>>980932 Zhu has A rank animations.
>>980926 >how well shell actually do i have my bets on that shes gonna be really successful even if there is a void hunter soon her design literally bruteforces through by being a completely original and new concept not to mention every single made in abyss fan will be a fan of her considering nanachi and faputas overwhelming success to the point where they have become the mascots of the whole series
>>980932 Astra Yao has like 2 animations total
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>>980932 qingyi is like a powerpoint deck
>>980903 Fair. I will note that the only other Electric-weak DA boss is The Defiler, and it ALSO has issues with its fight mechanic not shilling SAnby. She does like crit damage more than most thanks to her core, but she would rather dodge counter an attack than parry it, and the best-scoring M0R1 run of her that I've seen is this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-EqvJNyDww and it doesn't actually defensive assist anything that isn't a fight mechanic, so basically no stacks outside of the windows after knocking the boss down. I guess the free availability of dodge counters at the start is its own kind of shilling, though.
>>980940 astra yao is not a character she is a jiggling succubus that unbricks everyone >>980936 zhu has good animations if you actually look at them but cause of her playstyle you never see them, she has pretty solid cqc + gun kata combination, not sure how you would improve her animations for her combat style (her ass should jiggle more probably)
hug from my id, I'm feeling down
>>980948 Robotic arm canadian man hug
>>980949 manly hug, I'll take it
>>980941 thats why her animations are really good
>>980948 Not on some gay shit but enzo probably gives good hugs he’s a good dude who just works on boos all day presumably he doesn’t bang them
>>980940 You don't often see it but Astra also has her magical girl lasers.
>>980932 Yidhari's are copypasted from a different character probably still wouldn't call them bad though
>>980956 2 baseline animations and a third added in HZ. Her laser isn't even fun or interesting like oopsy-daisy UNLEASHED
>>980959 Her laser is just her assist counter repurposed because no one is ever going to see that.
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>>980942 Anby liking CRIT DMG% actually works against her in that fight because her build has a shitload of it by default. To optimize performance, you'd need to actually nuke your CRIT DMG% and compensate for it elsewhere but the "elsewhere" sources are limited, because she'll have a lot of CRIT Change by just running her W-Engine, and ATK% is generally not a particularly strong sub-stat. It'll likely be better than a CRIT DMG% sub-stat in that particular fight but not by much.
>>980932 grace not only feels bad to play her moves also look terrible the concept they had in mind with her is cool but her gameplay does not make up for it
>>980905 >what agents would be cooler as men Evelyn
>>980968 Grace actually has a ton of love put into her animations, she's just bad. But whether she's bad or not has no bearing on the actual discussion, however.
>>980966 this is an underrated reason why anomaly mogs attack in my opinion. all the anomaly buffs for bosses in DA/shiyu give crazy shit like def shred when you proc certain anomalies or shit out a bunch of AP which isn't that bad when saturated but attack characters have to cope with shill buffs that TECHNICALLY benefit them but not as well because of the nature of your disks/character self buffs/certain BiS supports giving tons of stats
>>980973 >she's just bad Even with her ball?
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seed's ~good morning~ slam is the best shit
>>980973 even if she was good she still doesnt feel good to play at all nor does she have any eye candy to make up for it like alice
>>980971 Shit, that's actually a good one. What about.... >Male Xu Yuan >Female Seth with cleavage in the bullet proof vest
>>980975 grace is okay as far as standards go, i'd say she's actually better than koleda and neko, but she needs a vivian wheelchair really badly and most accounts have a character that would better use the purple thing
>seed failing
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Finished Seed's agent story I still hate everything about her I wish the SeedSr was the actual character cause he is so fucking cool I agreed with the villain more than the proxy/flora
Lucia just reads stories from Scary Stories to tell in the dark to bangboo and replaces the monsters with ethereala
>>980905 male astra that only does metal
>>980987 And I wish you would hatchet off your dick but alas.
>>980989 Pentakill but for ZZZ…
>>980987 I love everything about her character minus her outfit, playing as Sr was enough to get me to pull but I wish I as him all the time with her in tow. So close to a perfect agent for me,I'm a sucker for good dads. >>980989 >male astra >It's just GACKT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXp0v93ZRTs I would prefer it.
alice's feet mog seeds tbdesu
>>980987 Seed Sr wouldn't like you for hating his daughter
>>981000 And your death mogs your continued existence.
>>981004 that's just like, my opinion bro
>>981006 Not every opinion is needed.
>>981000 footfags are so fucking weird, I don't even see a difference besides the nail paint
>>981004 t. most well adjusted seedfag
>>981008 that's your opinion though >>981009 seed's blatant footpandering is cringe and I like open toe shoes more, it's a nuanced fetish can't explain it more than that
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>>981001 And he'll never know cause he's dead
>>981012 >seed's blatant footpandering is cringe and I like open toe shoes more You're not even talking about feet anymore, you're talking about footwear. Rationalize your fetish, NOW.
>prissy little ass bitches bitch and moan about seed since her reveal >now can't take it when it's dished out to them instead Tough nuts.
belle in her summer outfit mogs all, clears, no diffs, and farms infinite aura. not even posting a pic because you all know it to be true
>>980966 ATK% subs are usually pretty good though? Even in a Seed+Astra team, which has 2200 flat ATK, they're still like 2/3rds of of a crit roll (can't check exact values on interknot-network cuz my SAnby isn't in my showcase and I'm doing the Genshin update at the moment), and normally like 80-90% depending on your particular team (e.g., my Miyabi gets 1.04% from ATK% subs and 1.1% from crit damage in a Yuzuha Soukaku team). This game having combat ATK% being multiplicative of out-of-combat sheet attack and most buffs being dmg% make ATK% subs very attractive in comparison to other hoyo games.
>>981017 trvke belle is THE canon love interest
>>981015 not a footfag but it sounds like its how its presented like how a woman would wear lingerie for sex >>981016 you took the angry pill with your recent posts
>>981015 feet is more of a teasing fetish to me because of my life experiences, I find feet sexually attractive but don't like when they're shoved in my face if that makes sense. also it's a bit of an attitude thing. the foot is the lower part of the body, so you need to be one of two things for me to find your feet sexy: a flustered girl who has no idea why this guy is lusting over her pretty feet like alice, or a sadistic bitch who steps on everyone like lucy but again, that's just like, my opinion bro
>>981022 Oh people can bitch and moan about seed constantly and I can't shove that shit back to them? I can't like seed in here? Who died and made you boss?
>>981016 hey you can call me a faggot all you want but don't claim I "can't take it" when I'm just pointing out multiple girls in ZZZ feetmog seed
>>981025 It's okay bro, there are plenty of Seed lovers here.
>>981013 :) >>981022 It's weird, they fetishize it in the reveal trailer and her ult, but nowhere else. You would think they'd double down or something, her pandering is mostly aimless and completely alien to her character entirely. I think that's part of the reason she's hated by lots of people, Not waifu enough for waifufags, not feet enough for feetfags, not SEED enough for mechafags, and not eyecatching enough for everybody else.
>>980402 If this thread goes bad blame Caesar
>>981029 >Not waifu enough for waifufags You're looking at the wrong places then.
>>981032 I'm not? Allegedly, her banner's done the worst of any of ZZZ, I want to see how Orphie does but still kinda crazy, I certainly didn't expect it and I pulled them.
I like Seed but for her incredibly hot body and zero sense of personal space instead of her feet.
>>981029 >her pandering is mostly aimless and completely alien to her character entirely. She likes cuddling and small places, which is very present in her trust events. What are you even talking about? >>981034 >salesfagging You have to go back.
>>981034 >salesfagging >allegedly
>>981018 ATK% sub-stats are good but the point is that they are inherently weaker than CRIT sub-stats. The context is that if you're forced to trade things like CRIT DMG or CRIT Rate for passive ATK% the overall value of your build tends to go down. There is no set value of ATK% roll to any of the CRIT roll and in certain circumstances they can even be stronger 1-to-1, but they just scale worse than the alternatives.
>>981036 >>981038 How am I supposed to talk objectively about this character and the things surrounding it. I'm not going to agree with either of you blindly when the only info we've got is not great. I want to see how this impacts future agent releases, and I'd like to have a more objective discussion about it.
When are they going to buff Caesar? She deserves it more than most.
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>sales >objectively
>>981040 What the fuck is there to be objective about nigger.
>salesniggering
Anti-seedfags really need to be taken to the rope.
>>981040 the problem with salesfagging is that a. the data we get is not good and b. hoyo does not just take dollar amounts into account when evaluating banners, they see how many polychromes are spent to catach savers and try and yoink them in with future characters that hit the same niches it's speculation and not the fun kind, just used to doompost 90% of the time
>objective discussion >about why I like a character I just think she's cute and probably smells good and I want a really touchy cute gf. Stop overthinking it bro.
Seed is an awful design and her gameplay makes me vomit myself with how bad it is. But it's just my opinion
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>>981051 fact checked by patriots: TRVKE
>>981054 hey as long as your not salesfagging your opinion is valid bro opinionKINGS run this general
>>981039 How's hp rolls shake out in that discussion with sheer agents? I've seen some people still use element damage discs for slot 4 and then crit cdmg, etc for slot 4. If you have enough CDMG and Crit would going all in on sheer via HP be the move? >>981042 Hopefully soon, she's not terrible, but she could use better utility or something. How should you buff her? >>981049 That's more sensical and interesting. The best info I can gather is by using interknot showcase numbers and the banner sale. I don't really think it's sales posting since I'd like to see how this influences future banners and speculate in that way, the games had a lot of turbulence lately and I want it to turn out for the better. >>981051 Oh not personal opinion. I was more talking general opinion of her/him/the banner. Like I said I pulled.
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>>981060 What did lady Shifu said about securing tiger thiren population?
>>981047 Why are you so mad that we hate her?
>>981054 I hope you choke and die on your vomit.
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lil bro is crashing out
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Seed haters, I have a question for you: How does picrel make you feel about Seed?
>>981064 Everyone must do their part
Veronica was right and Sr. died for nothing. Seed should die a gruesome death and all footfaggots should be skinned alive and fed to dogs.
>today's VR challenge gives you Lighter for Eve/Astra I'm sorry but
>>981072 At least post with your og posts ID instead of resetting like a faggot.
>>981074 Why would bringer saythis about the CHAMP, fuf is just as good though.
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This is great to see unfold >>981069 Meh, I don't play this game for the gooning aspect
>>981066 you're just making yourself an lolcow I wasn't gonna say anything, but now I'm tempted to mention how annoying Seed is and how much worse she is than her stoic robo dad
>>981075 I just woke up and the first thing I see is you're STILL fuming there are people who don't like your shit character after what, 2 months?
>>981082 They're both fun, I do feel like pulling her story out to be it's own thing was a bit of an odd choice. Feels like maybe it should've gone first in the patch and then lead into Orphie naturally.
>>981083 Yes, move on and sit down. Not everything needs a reaction.
>>981069 >no cute rabbit/goat poof >no tentacles >no angry gun snake I need my asses accessorized, thank you
>>981088 Really now?
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>>981069 Nice ass, but I have better distractions with characters I like without having to waste pulls on a character I hate playing
How do you fix/buff Caesar as an agent?
Seed grew on me, admittedly. I always thought she was cute, but mostly seeing her jiggle during combat and her various trust events got me. Story was also nice. Just wish I could find more ass-focused Seed art that wasn't also dominated by feet. Scooter is still mega dumb, though.
The seed haters realize halfcuck thread is mostly indian bots replying to each other so they have to bring that shit here again. It's fine for the first few times but it's getting tiring if you repeat the same talking point about feet and muh robot over and over again.
>>981059 >How's hp rolls shake out in that discussion with sheer agents? HP% rolls are crazy strong. They are like 70% stronger than ATK% rolls but their sub-stat/main-stat distribution is identical to those. The thing is, most unique damage modifiers are multiplicative with each other. When you're trying to achieve the highest possible product given fixed amount of resources, the best way to do that is by keeping factors as close to being equal to each other as possible. That's why you need some ATK, some DMG, some CRIT, etc. You don't go all-in on one. The initial distribution between the sub-stats and other stat sources is not made equal, though. The best demonstration of that is ATK% vs DMG% - all sources of both that are available to the player to trade one for another are valued identically - 2x drive disc sets either give you 10% passive ATK or 10% DMG, #5 either gives you 30% DMG or 30% ATK. But in the actual formula, a given amount of DMG% will always result in a higher absolute damage number compared to the same exact amount of ATK% - DMG% multiplies all of the ATK regardless of the sources, while ATK% only multiplies initial ATK that comes from Agents base stats, levels, and Core skill + their W-Engine's primary effect. But there is always a point of saturation, where even a "weaker" sub-stat can become the best option.
>>981096 Does anyone like the scooter at all? >>981098 I kinda figured the (1) posts were a dead give away.
>>981098 nigga I started this shit by saying i don't like her as a foot fag and I have the most posts in this thread probably and don't even touch that pajeet infested site, stop accusing everything of being a halfchan raid if posters aren't n(1)ggers. seed is boring and her feet suck (((IN MY HUMBLE OPINION))) who the fuck cares if the same talking points repeat we're not getting new shit in like 2 weeks
>>981095 Defense characters should all have their own form of Aftershock but it comes up when an agent is about to get hit, blocks that hit and switches to them. Have a cooldown like every thirty seconds or something. S ranks get buffs when this happens so you use them for a short while and then switch away.
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>>981101 the scooter is great
>>981098 >Everyone realizes halfcuck thread is mostly indian bots replying to each other so people hang around and share their opinions here. FTFY.
Like on god hugo has less fans in here but nobody keeps fucking repeating the same fucking annoying points again and again because we know there are SOME hugo fans here.
>>981103 yeah and you were followed up by a salesnigger and a gaggle of n(1)ggers, that's why people's hackles got raised
>>981100 interesting, I definitely see the DMG % side of it, but let me ask you this. being HP is so wildly useful on Sheer, wouldn't it be better always to try to get it over ATK o DMG? If it's like 70% stronger, even with diminishing returns it'd still be better when saturated wouldn't it? Then it's more like food macros, where you want as much protein in your diet without forcing out the mandatory fat and carbs (crit chance and crit damage) Am I on the right track or am I wrong about hp/sheer in this instance? I don't know anything about the formulas. >>981104 That would be really cool and I hope they do something like that. Aftershocks in general are just fun and cool.
>>981109 Almost every time 1.7 is brought up someone talks about how much they hated the inner demon scene and "dindufication"
>>980932 Pulchra's combat animations suck. Also not a fan of 2fast4u characters.
>>981118 And we stopped after that. Capisce?
>>981109 if Hugo's dad was a cool monstrous-looking bat thiren and Lycaon's agent story teased him instead of Hugo I'd probably be just as annoyed
>>981105 I am shocked and APPALLED sir >>981118 That's always crazy to me since the point of him not doing it himself was that he's still culpable and he might as well have done it, and he thought he did it too. He says as much himself, Lycaon also has a bit of growth there too.
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>you aren't allowed to dislike a character because it hurts my feelings How fragile. Still should've gotten the robot instead.
Legitimately, how does she get away with it? She crawls on top of you in a small concrete tube, invites you to cuddle with her inside SEED's cockpit, and now she's coming into your home with the express clarification that your sibling is not there. She's more overt about it than Jane, and that's saying something.
>>981114 I feel like that is like so easy to ignore though but maybe I'm an anon imageboard zen master unable to be ragebaited and don't get annoyed by it as long as it's in good faith. The only shit that triggers me is election tourist polfaggotry >>981125 You should use your real id to say this or atleast post additional times from this id or you are unfortunately a n(1)gger
>>981121 If you say so
>>you aren't allowed have some bants against people who dislike a character because it hurts my feelings Notice how I didn't say they need to stop. Just to kill themselves mostly.
>>981103 Someone brought up sales and it's pretty much a halfcuck behavior. Like I understand 2.x is pretty bad about building up characters except Yixuan. They should have showed Flora, Lucia and Yidhari in the trailer and they would avoided most of the criticism about character design and SEED.
>>981125 Playing as Seed Sr and hearing his daughter cheer him on got me to pull. I still wish I could edit him into the basic attack chain and DA but maybe a modder will do it, or they'll sell a skin. I would fucking buy it, the gameplay is that fun to me, especially the held EX. >>981131 >The only shit that triggers me is election tourist polfaggotry Why must you remind me of what killed my boards on halfchan
>>981131 Sure thing bwo. I'll post something on topic too other than shitflinging. Sanby showcase is out, seems nyeat.
>>981135 We've known about seed being female since 1.6.
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I'm going to start frothing at the mouth...
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I like every character because I'm a good person. I showed up, got on the ride, and Im yelling wee at all the rises and dips on this roller coaster.
>>981098 >>981121 It's the current patch and its relevant to talk about the current on going banner. And unlike other characters, hoyo really fucking fumbled with the entire character from the moment she showed up in the 2.0 trailer, so it's far worse than any other agent release so far. So yes I'm fucking upset about seed. The only things I actually like is the robot design and her kit. I hate that they made her into a foot fetish for no fucking reason and that she talks like she's 7 years old.
>>981130 how can two people even fit inside of that cockpit? maybe she's using her psyker powers to fold space
>>981125 Master's Supreme Assistant never lies
>>981134 201 seconds is how long it took you to go from taking a step back to continuing your spergout
>>981137 >Sanby showcase is out, seems nyeat. where?
>>981142 I have to imagine it would be an incredibly tight fit.
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>>981141 And you choose to make your headcannon everybody else's problem. Tough titties.
>>981141 It's fascinating to see her annoy almost everybody. I wish I could see more of what they think about her and her dad. >foot faggotry Strangely, it's basically only in her ult and trailer. I don't get it. >she talks like she's 7 I like her voice, a lot actually. I don't feel like she's talking like akid, but she's more gremlin like. Kinda reminds me of a Tenchi Muyo girl.
>>981137 The gameplay is too chaotic to make out what's changed and it's not representative of numerical buffs either since there's some obvious private server bullshit. If noone makes a proper showcase in the training room I'll just wait for the 2.3 stream
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>>981140 person this zen will live to 100+
>>981095 Just make her shield FUCKING WORK in half of the end-game content?
>>981140 I don't like every character, but I don't complain about the characters I don't like. I just accept that they're not for me and I'm glad someone else is having fun.
>>981157 Like Astra who....basically does her thing but better. I agree with you at least, but why hasn't Mihoyo done that. Kinda unfair to her tbh.
>>981145 https://www.reddit.com/r/Zenlesszonezeroleaks_/comments/1niaknp/buffed_sanby_showcase_via_random_tieba_user/ >leddit >>981155 Yeah, it's not great quality but I think there's a couple new animations.
just post it Sanby gameplay already
What about a girl who still plays with action figures?
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>Fap in the bathroom >Come back to yet another argument about Seed Guys...
>>981164 If she lets me pull >>981165 you spill your seed and this is what happens.
>>981162 Thanks <unpozzed video
>>981165 >Fap in the bathroom why not just do it in your room like a normal person
Trigger should’ve been a dps. when are we getting s ranged dps that isnt crap
>>981157 Nigger her problem is that her shield does not matter for most content because every content is a DPS race so you might as well go for better buffs. Even with the new rupture hp drain stuff you don't even need her shield which sounds like the devs just gave up on survivability being important.
>>981095 I saw it suggested last thread that you could make it so when Caesar DA's, she doesn't actually swap in. I added that you could make it so you hold the button down if you want to swap her in proper, but for the most part treating her like a parry button. If she has Energy, she could apply her shield on a successful parry and maybe give her some defense shred while we're at it.
>>981169 >Trigger should've been a dps It's not too late, build her.
>>981162 they really need to turn off damage numbers when doing these things literally cant see anything not to mention video quality is deep fried every time
>>981168 >Have to grab some tissues to catch my jizz >When I could just sit on the toilet, jack it, cum, use the bidet to rinse my hand and dick, flush it all away, then wash my hands I'm the normal one here
>>981169 Trigger is fun to DPS with, but seriously SBilly probably will be. >>981172 So like tag assists but not shit, that'd be cool >def shred WOULD BE FUCKING NICE considering Astra is just her but better.
>>981141 I honestly don't get the feet complains, i just never see a feet close up as something sexual.. maybe it's just me. As for character, I find Seed likeable and has an amazing agent story. She's not my favorite but not sometone that should generate this much hate either. i just don't understand why would you hate her this much unless you really want that big robot dick in your ass. She's a brick compared to buffed Sanby and she doesn't have much role in the main story either. Just skip her and be done with it.
Defense was always kind of a flawed concept in a game with proper evades and parries anyway.
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When's Big Daddy gonna do something? What the fuck happened with Lucius? He's definitely gonna get forcibly turned into a sacrifice.
WHERE THE FUCK IS OUR NEXT LORE TRAILER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgeN7naPPz4
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>>981184 Probably when we cover S Billy's backstory, who Callydon was, and if they decide to bring up Pompey again like they did in Seed Sr's backstory. >Lucius Good question, but probably saved for Outer Ring pt2 next year or longer. I do remember seeing Mors getting more lines in a patch at some point, no idea if that stuck around.
>>981185 Genshin only just got it's second lore video though. We'll get ours in 5 years right before the Revival of Old Eridu chapter
>>981180 I really, REALLY, wanted a robot agent like Billy. Im also into military stuff so obol was the group I was waiting for the most. I was excited for this patch and I feel so unhappy with what we got. I don't see feet as a sexual thing either, but the fact is that hoyo made it one of the main traits of the character, no matter how you spin it. If it wasn't, she would be wearing shoes.
>>981181 Simply make a boss with an undodgable attack but can be blocked by perfect block abilities. This'll shill the new s rank defender but also bring back nen, caesar, and even yixuan will have her time in the sun again
>>981195 o my rubber nen
>>981192 Genshin gets lore videos every July though?
>>981195 I'll just block it with Miyabi's basic string
>>981181 Defense mattered more in tv's where you had shit like Pressure, Hay Fever or Shadow of Horror. You know, stuff that would make big stonkin' shields far more valuable due to reduced HP or defenses. ...Man, I miss tv's...
>>981199 Isn't that a parry? Perfect block is a different mechanic
It upset me how there's little to no art of Yiddy fucking herself with her tentacles.
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>>981117 >wouldn't it be better always to try to get it over ATK o DMG Over ATK, yes. Sheer scales linearly with both HP and ATK, and given a limited number of sub-stats, HP% is always better, no alternatives. The same idea as how Ben technically scales with DEF%, but both ATK% and DEF% sub-stats contribute to the same pool and ATK% sub-stats simply do it better than DEF% ones. DMG% is a separate multiplier. Whether or not running it is better or worse than HP% relies entirely on the saturation. Yixuan saturates DMG% herself a bit but her BiS supports generally don't scale it too much (still scale it quite a bit), so DMG% #5 for her tends to be very good exactly because of that. But if you saturate DMG% one way or another, HP% might start outperforming it. HP% on Yixuan suffers from the same exact problem ATK% does on everyone else (and arguably more so, because Yixuan also has a non-zero amount of ATK contributing to Sheer Force as well) - HP% sub-stats do not multiply everything. 1% HP increase does not equal to 1% damage output increase, because there's always flat HP coming from the disc 1 and that is not being multiplied. 1% DMG increase is a 1% damage increase. The "HP% is better than ATK% by 70%" applies to HP% for Yixuan compared to ATK% for Yixuan. When you're looking at #5 for Yixuan, you're generally working with 30% HP from her W-Engine, then 30% more from #6 and then you're considering either getting 30% more from #5 or 30% DMG instead. She usually has 60% from her Core + 30% on specifically Cloud Shaper (but not her CA or Ultimate which are are huge part of her total damage output) + 16% from her W-Engine. If you're running Pan, you add 20% DMG but also a huge chunk of flat Sheer Force (which devalues HP% in a similar way flat ATK devalues ATK%). Astra would add 20% DMG, 40% if you're running her signature, while also devaluing HP% a bit with her flat ATK buff. Astral is another 24% DMG. If you're running Fufu, you'll be getting 20% DMG on CAs and 40% DMG on Ultimates. So, depending on a combination, you might have your DMG% saturated more or less than usual. And that would result in #5 being better or worse when compared to HP%. Because DMG% is inherently better than HP%, it will take it longer to saturate to the point where it becomes percent-per-percent worse than HP%, but there can be that point. HP%, meanwhile is not limited to your W-Engine and #6 either - you can saturate it with your sub-stats. If you have very few of those, there's a good chance HP% #5 can be BiS for you. But usually DMG% performs better.
>>981192 Both Genshin and HSR get animated lore trailers every few months
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>>981218 Too busy fucking Belle with them.
>>981193 >like billy Literally will never happen. This is a gacha game where the main audience is mostly horny males. I knew from day one that Seed would never be an S rank limited with just Seed SR and Komano will be an A rank. Just look at Screwllum, even in a normie game like HSR, they didn’t have the confidence to release him as a playable character after building him up since 1.x. And even if he does become playable, he’s 99.99% going to be a 4 star. I doubt S rank Billy will happen either considering how unpopular he is even compared to a irrelevant female chararacter like Piper.
>>981231 HSR's right over there and if I recall, Phainon sold really well. Silly Billy would probably be pretty cool.
>>981220 I always like these posts, very interesting. I was gonna build Komano and he actually does get a decent bit of fire damage saturation from his kit now. I wonder if it's enough to beat DMG out, but I only have an HP disc at the moment. Maybe I'll get lucky and roll a better one for him during the event. Thanks for the in depth replies.
>>981216 Eh not really, because the endgame TV content was still about doing as much damage to Nineveh as you can.
>>981239 And do you want HSR's mentally ill fujos to infect zzz?
>>981239 They build Phainon up for half a year and Seed literally has no build up. Phainon is also just another tall good looking male, not a robot with a robot face.
Should I pick Gomamom, DemiDevimon, or Patamon?
kino
>>981248 Always pick MommyNagi.
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>>981244 You gotta remember, premiere units back then were Ellen and Zhu. You had very, very little in the way of evasion and i-frames built into your kit like most characters nowadays. Nineveh just flat out killed you most of the time if you didn't have some form of sustain or durability.
If anything show a zzz line-up and a hsr line-up of characters and make them guess which game is based in a world where only one city survive and which is based in a world of travelling to multiple different planets in space.
>>981247 The most daring limited Hoyo S rank design is Trigger btw unless they actually dare to release S rank Billy and don't turn him into a handsome male.
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>>981248 >>do not repost >reposts
>>981253 Eh kinda. I still remember people posting "OMG LOOK AT JANE'S ASSAULT DAMAGE!!!!!"
>>981257 But Billy is already handsome.
This was nice. I want more of this.
>>981259 You've never met a man as villainous as me. I'm sick and fucked up
>>981216 in theory her shield would be useful in high ether activity lost void but with the timers and miasma shit you can't really afford the dps loss of dragging caesar along. as an aside, lost void feels kind of abandoned these days. should be more events and different battles. today's run I fought the same fucking farbauti + dullahan battle twice in a row and got the golden bangboo fight at least 4 times. shit is retarded anyhoo, I'd change caesar by giving a toggle that turns her into physical rupture. her perfect block combo would cause an assload of damage and stagger pretty much anything. ult would be the same for aoe. give her a meter that charges a hold basic that executes a dropkick that does a lot of daze and increases daze % by some function of her impact
>>981264 But also bring back commissions
>>981266 >as an aside, lost void feels kind of abandoned these days. should be more events and different battles. It is kinda weird that the new agents weren't given gears but the two rupture ones will be.
>>981266 We literally got a new lost void boss tease in 2.0
>>981274 I'm not talking about the boss I'm talking about the rest of it
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>>981266 Lost Void is a failed experiment if they don't add SOME kind of massive iteration on it. It either needs to be revamped with unique open maps and lean into that or have literally anything else going on if it's going to try (and fail) to be a worse Simulated Universe. SU at least had stories told in it. Withering Garden had the whole Stories of the Lost Capital tapes, which were all incredibly interesting but got discontinued with the loss of TV's. Man, the more I think about it, the more I realize how much collateral tv removal had...
>>981277 I mean it is kinda what it is. Things take time and they're probably just rolling things out one patch at a time. 2.2 seems like a rest patch but 2.3 we're getting a new endgame too. If I were to guess I'm thinking lost void update is in 2.4 because the new lost void boss is tied to TOPs.
>>981277 They're not going to put much effort into something most people consider a weekly chore.
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I am going to drop a little truth nuke here. Silver Soldier Anby should not get a rerun. I repeat, she should not get a rerun. People shat on her design and threw terms like "sanbrick", "silver brick" and "brickby" around. Now that buffs are close people are praising her even on cuckchan, but I think skippers and metafags are not worthy of her. If you skip her at her worst, you do not deserve her at her best. Thank you for your attention.
>>981284 It'll never be anything more than a weekly chore if they don't put effort into it. I actually enjoyed doing H0 and hunting down the Stories of the Lost Capital tapes just to listen to them. Those were some of the coolest bits of lore in ZZZ.
SU is actually the most retarded thing to compare it to because they turned it into slop with DU and the big expansions that we used to have came out pretty far apart so it's not like they're handing out new content every fucking patch for SU even back in the day.
>>981285 what anby should get is an alt that actually looks good
>>981286 If people still wanted or cared for that type of content, we would still be getting new hollow zero content instead of boring lost void.
>>981285 Based
If anything i feel like the real thesis is that stuff like DU/SU and lost void shouldn't be weekly content. Just give an expansion like every 4 patches or something.
>>981135 >They should have shown They didn't show Vivian and look at how loved she is. Maybe, just maybe, reality isn't what people on the internet is saying.
Still won't roll Silverbrick btw
>>981301 Nigger we are not memory wiping how much hate she got for being "muh hsr design" when she was first revealed.
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>>981285 GIGA TRVKE
>>981300 Yeah, the biggest problem with these modes is they're weekly chores so they're balanced so that you can mash through everything
>>981303 >hate You mean by retards that don't even play the game.
>>981285 Already have seed and toriga, literally zero reason to pull for sanby.
>>981307 Same difference.
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>>981285 Well said. Just rerun her ball, though. I wasn't able to get that last time.
>>981311 Not really. The opinions of people who are purely trying to shit the bed don't matter and shouldn't be counted.
>>981314 Same as seed haters then.
>>981301 If Vivian was teased with her ass thrusters without the rest of the body shown there would be disappointed people. Also helps that she isn't actively repulsive as a character even if she's also a clingy type
>>981292 Didn't she and Nicole have new avatar previews implying they'd get skins in the last few betas? I know Nicole had fingerles gloves in black instead of white.
>>981316 >repulsive as a character You say that but the "people" who were bitching about her bitched about her character a lot on release. You don't see that much now though.
There's literally a known vivian schizo in these threads who hates her clingyness lmao
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Reply to this post to collect your ribbon. You deserve it
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>>981328 Borgar power!
>>981328 Almost rolled her ball too, unfortunately they decided to make her hair glow some ugly purple tint for whatever reason.
>>981318 I think nicoles was an old one or something like that, dunno about anby
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>>981328 don't mind if I do
If they make Sanby the new best electric DPS, where the fuck does that leave Seed?
>>981341 The same team???
>>981325 Yea, just one guy. Compared to all of the supposed people who were bitching about her during her patch and the patch after. Would make you think people hated her but then she got tons of fan made content because people loved her. It's incredibly hard to actually gauge what people think about a character on the internet because a lot of it is just reactionary or people that don't actually care hopping on a hate train for fun.
>>981292 Nah, she is fine. I only wish we got some extra trust events for her. >>981308 They make for a pretty fun team together >>981313 How about only the people who did not skip her should get access to her banner so they can get the ball or pull dupes? >>981322 Gigabased, saved
>>981293 lost void is hz lol
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Post your silverbricks (brick = sovl btw)
Genshin doesn't have a weekly mode does it?
>>981357 wyell...
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>>981358 OK ones that matter.
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>>981285 I tried to get her but got knotted and ran out of chromosomes
>>981231 But they will release s rank Billy. He'll be simultaneously released with s rank nicole but also given free for all players to celebrate zzz's 2nd anniversary
>>981357 no, spiral abyss used to reset every 2 weeks befofe theatre got introduced and that was the closest it got permament wise
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Damn you guys don't really go for maximal CR huh.
>>981357 There's reputation bounties, but no weekly mode that gives gacha currency
>>981374 Oh fuck reputation bounties. Now you're reminding me why I quit that game.
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>>981328 >>981355 Not my best unit, but not my worst. I'd optimize her but working on Orphie's set right now. Speaking of, what set does Orphie want?
>>981383 4p shadow harmony, 2p crit or ER
>>981284 >most people playing zzz think that playing the game is a chore if that's true, that doesn't bode well for the game >>981377 they don't really exist anymore, at least not like they did in the first two regions. they removed that tracking minigame, turned it into teleport here and kill shit. newest region doesn't have it at all afaik, just little miniquests
Does any support want to swap to the new support set or use 2pc with their current set?
>>981405 Astra stays on Astral, but everyone else should make the switch
Bwos, please tell me that Lucia's hip nerf isn't real
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>>981434 they increased her waist size, made her hips a tiny bit narrower and changed the curvature a bit
They transplanted her hips to yid's boobs
>>981443 It looks like she has hip dips
>>981443 Mmm, not a fan.
>>981450 Need that pic with tits transplanted to manato remade with goat losing her ass for squid.
>>981407 Thanks bro. Though now that I look through them I realize that outside of Astra, Nicole is the only support character I ever use
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>>981461 >Nicole is the only support character I ever use
>>981461 Your Luciana Auxesis Theodoro de Montefio?
>>981464 >>981467 I have literally every single limited agent outside of Hugo and Lighter. I have never had a single use for Lucy
>>981469 sovlless...
Sometimes, I wanna fuck Chinatsu and spend all night cuddling with her. Other times, I wanna do so with Rokudo. Then, there are some days of the week where all I desire to do, is to plap Yutanes little robotic ass. Thats the beauty of male sexual nature; polygamy. I love all my girls, and I love each one for different reasons.
>>981443 It looked infinitely better before with the insane hip to waist ratio, now she looks like every other character Fucking Chinese, I swear...
>>981464 I keep trying to use her but she's always worse than Nicole in every situation. I unironically think she works better as a dps with two wheelchairs at least her gameplay is fun
>>981469 Lucy is used for sex.
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>>981479 I use her with Burnice/Piper to see pigs explode and I'm happy
>>981490 Lucy's M6 triggering off each tick of Burnice and Piper EX is one of the things that makes Piper as good as Jane.
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Oh shit her marks are built up fast af now. Also her full marks indicator is a lot more obvious.
>>981477 yeah, I don't get why they did it. I'm sure a mod will restore the original proportions but using mods to correct developer mistakes is retarded
>>981493 I mean they most likely did it because the chinks complaint about it considering its a survey on their side.
>>981469 Never? Who were using in the pre-Astra epoch?
>>981492 Her basic chain looks smoother, I like it. And you can see how her 3rd BA has her swords swirling around as a grouping tool. The lighting effects being on the whole screen may be a little distracting, but we will see
>>981492 >One full BA string gives three now FVARK Indicator effects look a tad rough, but they'll polish that later.
>>981500 It needs to be distracting it needs to scream out "HEY NIGGER IT'S FULL" more than it does currently.
>>981497 Mein Caeser and the Ghost hag
>>981477 It looked downright comical especially when paired with the modest chest and noodle arms, like it was a mod. If you only liked Lucia for her grotesquely disproportionate posterior you're a fake fan.
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>>981503 >three It's two. The other one is from teammate aftershock.
>>981509 The real solution is to make her arms, boobs and waist thicker and make her the slampig agent.
>>981509 it reminded me of a certain e-thot who shall remain nameless who had those absurd proportions, which gave me a hearty kek >>981521 my nigga
>>981521 TRVKE NVKE
>>981521 i will now roll your agent.
>>981509 The character isn't even out yet, what's there to like besides her design. You're a fucking faggot like every one else who voted against the early design, plain and simple. Might as well have one body model and just make new heads when a new character comes out if you're gonna talk shit whenever the devs try something different.
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>>981521 >>981523 >>981526 >>981528 The audience have spoken, Mihoyo. Next agent must be THICC
>>981531 There's a whole design there, if all you're seeing in Lucia is a Female_Size02 model with the ass slider cranked to 11 it's your problem. >>981533 Not like this.
>>981533 LET'S GO ALL THE FUCKING WAY AND THEN GO FURTHER
>>981533 Y E S
>>981536 If you think body proportions aren't a big aspect of character design, specially in ZZZ, I don't know what to tell you.
>>981533 >The audience have spoken Unfortunately, that was not Hoyo’s audience.
>>981536 >he doesn't want Elegg-like "fat ass" Why? >>981544 >me, day 1 player, is not Hoyo’s audience
>>981328 I always had faith in my autistic burger queen
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How much longer do I have to wait until Dagasi draws Zhao? I'm getting impatient
>>981539 is this what happens if tailless is released
>>981550 Just don't like nikkers nor Nikke in general
>>981560 Well I was talking about the size of potential agent, not how it must be nikke expy.
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>wait, THEY REMOVED 2PX FROM HER WAIST???????? >NOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS IS SO RUINED what a tragedy, I'm in tears
>>981533 Yes, preferably if that agent is S rank Pulchra.
>obesity enjoyers aren't Americans supposed to be asleep?
>>981568 Why are furries more often than not fat/inflation fetishists too? Is there a science to it?
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Zhao bouncing
>meet Seed in Failume Heights >the construct that runs the Pawn shop has a human daughter too How many fuckin adoptee daughters are there in NEridu
Newfag with Grace here, the plan was simple pull Seed, pull Trigger and her wengine and Magus... I've got Nekomata and now I don't know if there's still time to go for Trigger and her ball.
>>981571 >Is a niche fetish (furry) >dug deeper >found even more niche fetish (inflations)
>>981571 Don't forget vore is also a furry thing
>>981576 >newfag >pulling balls
>>981576 Bro? Your card?
>>981575 >lots of parents died in the fall of the old capital >most of them probably did everything they could to make sure their kids survive at the cost of their own >Constructs are hardier thaan humans so they were more likely survive
>>981571 I'm not a furry, I just want to fuck Pulchra. I am an architect first.
>>981575 I hope we get to meet lebron's daughter.
>>981576 If you just started, you can absolutely grind out the hollow zero content with your SEED team using her and Nekomata + one and farming all polys from story, hardmodes, leveling up badges, and collecting resonium. You are gonna have to haul ass though so get to it.
>>981285 Metafags are gonna latch on to her and pretend they liked her all along so even though I wouldn't be able to get her ball, they should delay her rerun for a long time
>>981586 >grind out the hollow zero content I'm a day 1 player and I'm at like 30%.
>>981589 You have a week to do it, prioritize Trigger first, then her engine if you can. You absolutely can do this, but you need to exhaust all the content you can and go hard in the paint.
>>981285 unfathomably based
>>981590 I'm not him, I'm just saying that's an absurd amount of grinding you expect a newcutie to do.
>>981592 I did the same thing when I joined with Trigger, so I know it's possible.
>>981571 people with paraphilia are more likely to have further paraphilias
>>981571 mental illness
Damn manato looks fun as fuck honestly.
That's great and all, but >rupture
>>981617 I don't know, something in me is getting triggered by seeing your own hp bar disappearing. I've been conditioned to think it means you fucked up,
>>981617 He looks great but I why use Jufu, she only gives 80% crit damage and ult refund and given he gets a ton of crit he's going to run a CDMG disc and probably have too much saturation there wouldn't he? I heard his best team is actually Lighter and Orphie. Or maybe Lucia and somebody like Yuzuha or Astra where he gets a ton of flat attack + sheer force.
>Had an awesome wipeout screen of Evelyn 20 feet in the air >Shadowplay isnt on
>>981617 Looks a bit repetitive and formulaic he says as he picks Soldier 11
good morning bros
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I'm gonna roll disks during the double drop event, surely Roland can't brick them all
>>981684 bakaga...
>>981690 That's it? just add more spinning blades?
>>981684 He will
>>981285 There is a non zero chance they buff her and Harumasa is on the rerun banner >>981328 I rolled
>>981717 TIGER TIGER TIGER
>>981285 Reasonable trvke
>>981328 Depending on whether Orphie fucks me or not I might get her ball on rerun, I dunno yet Obol has everything I want right now, and I only have a Brimstone and Marcato to share between my attackers right now If they're giving out balls on X.0 though I can get another Brimmers there, much to consider
>>981696 Good old spinning blades Nothing beats that
>>981684 I got this one a couple double drop events ago
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>>981328 She will become God next patch
SHarin when? preferably with Claymore Also Fire Rupture please just to piss off Manatofags more
>>981726 They should just make all event balls permanently obtainable like in HSR. Gilded blossom is good on Orphie and Hugo but only real OGs have it.
>>981734 My Dawn's Bloom rolls have been terrible so it actually can't get worse I may as well roll em' right away
>>981328 I (did not) have faith
>>981328 Not only did I roll Sanby. I also cleared everything with her. I truly deserve it.
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I know they'll probably pair a new character with Zhao in her patch, but I really wanted it to be Damian. I know he looks like an NPC, but I think it would be one of the best ways to sell this duo, especially because of the contrast between the two and it seems like it's one of the few male and female duos that I haven't seen anyone complaining about yet.
I hate Orphie's kit
>>981761 I'm disappointed she can't be an on-fielder, but I'm still rolling because she's my wife's (Trigger) friend
I love Orphie.
Yidhari chest buff, still not a fan of the design overall though.
>>981765 This ID.
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>>981766 Bigger
>>981768 I like this, do you have more like this?
>>981764 I hate that she's stuck with aftershit. I literally can't form a team with her
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>>981772 No, just these
>>981768 I still think she's only good for her body, but that's fine. I love Orphie's body.
>>981766 I'd rather have her flat as an iron but in a good outfit instead.
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Large pepperonis
Need ZZZID
>>981766 Somehow this does look noticeably better
>I clicked it
>>981809 too big
>>981328 im so happy to be a brick investor
The devs broke the game. These barrels are supposed to be rolling on the belt...
Off topic but man android emulation is insane these days. Trying out gamehub and i can play disco Elysium natively on my Samsung.
>>981839 As long as you don't spam quotes from it
>>981328 Just checked out the beta footage The buffs are cool and all but what I really want the most is for wipeouts on special to be fixed
>>981328 I was one of Sanby's shooters from day 1. She really didn't need these buffs but I won't complain that she's getting them
>>981766 I am not a monkey that suddenly overlooks the atrocity of this design because of bigger tits
M0W1 Buffed SAnby/M0W1 Trigger/M6W5 Nicole vs UCC https://streamable.com/a28o00
Uh ZZZ has good designs there are no atrocities as that man said. Lucia and Yidhari are good. Yes even Hugo, Lighter, and Manato are good and you're not gay if you like them. It's only gay if you want to have intercourse with them and you're a male
>>981868 spending limited resources (aka money) on fags is pretty gay bwo
>>981865 >nico >using the seed shill buff instead of Orphie's (aftershock buffs) weird showcase
>>981865 I will end up pulling sAnby for Orphie
>>981871 I spend money to do nice things for male friends I have in real life that doesnt make me gay. Also saving polychrome is for dummies they literally lower your rates if they detect that you have over 10 pulls worth of free currency. You deserve to lose every 50/50 you end up losing if you save because you're not understanding how the game is being played against you.
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>>981871 Money is a social construct and it's unlimited by definition.
>>981880 let me guess You also believed in desire sensor?
>>981880 Desire sensor isn't real, neither are account seeds.
>>981880 >they literally lower your rates if they detect that you have over 10 pulls worth of free currency. but I hoarded 500 pulls and they rewarded me with a double in Trigger's sig banner....
>>981885 Then why wouldn't you pay your debt?
>>981889 That's mumbo jumbo but as a man who has every character but 1 I know how this game works.
>>981880 But I pulled 3 Mibibi balls in one tenner when I had over 200 pulls?
>>981895 It's absolutely real, any time I try to prefarm in HSR I lose 50/50 without fail
>>981898 > who did you skip?
>>981902 >prefarming That's your damn fault You only prefarm when you have a guarantee
>>981902 I prefarm everything in HSR
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>>981901 >>981896 Outliers What I say is divine truth either believe, or I'll curse you to lose every 50/50 for the next year.
Fuck off Da Wei
>>981904 I didnt roll Lighter at first because I stopped playing that month to play metaphor refantazio instead. Then when the rerun happened I rolled him instead of Hugo. I'll roll for Hugo after I get whatever character he's paired with during his rerun
Who is this mysterious lady
>>981935 liposuction victim
>>981935 Tom Brady
>>981938 Liposuction doesn't make your waist more narrow. Just get her pregnant, that'll widen her hips back bro
>500+ rolls in the tank >always prefarm agents I'm interested in even if i end up not rolling them >only roll when I know I can guarantee an agent Howl gave me 10 chromes today tho so I'm feeling lucky Bets?
+3 on DEF +1 on Crit Rate +1 on ATK
>>981943 +4 def +1 cr
>>981943 >flat DEF You already know how it has to be...
>>981943 At least 2 def rolls
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>>981943 >rolling the premier disc of the on-banner agent Don't do it bro
>>981966 >>981943 Oops thought that was sneeds. Carry on
>>981946 >>981948 >>981952 >>981961 >>981966 I REJECT YOUR REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN
>>981970 Eh, it's aight
>>981970 RULES OF NATURE!!
You know it's fucked up when the supports also need crit rolls
>>981988 the disc farming It's bad enough to farm a good set for your DPS but some of the supports also need a good amount of crit rate/damage to not be a total dead weight
>>981935 A house elf!
>>981993 Literally none of thee supports need that.
>>982003 Nicole But I agree if you just want them for their buffs It's just that I need every single DPS I can squeeze out of my team
>>982007 anon...
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>We will never get to see this grumpy old woman ever again
>>981328 of course!
>>982052 Yeah! It's Anby ID!!!!!
>>981328 One day I'll replace astral voice
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>>981328 Can I get that ribbon if I accidentally rolled her when I was going for M6 Pulchra?
>got a crit rate main stat disk 4 with 4 rolls into crit damage >on the fucking ER set Fuck you game
>>982049 nah, you'll see her a lot in deadly assault and shiyu she has 3 boss forms
Still not rolling Sanby until they give her a skin that's on par with her A-rank
>>982076 almost
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Post sovl
>Sanby got gigabuffed Everyday I'm glad that I made the decision to skip Seed
>>982066 Your Orphie?
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>>982091 seed sanby is fun as fuck you should reconsider
>>982091 >skipping the best teammate for the character that is getting buffed it's like saying you're glad you skipped lighter because ellen got buffed, it's still their best team
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So who's the next one
is 3 agent wipeout sovlful?
>>982103 there wont be a next one
>>982105 Why noooootttt
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>>982103 It will take place entirely in the clone lab that Anby definitely spared
>>982094 do you have the one where the guy goes "MIBIBI! MIBIBI!!!"
>>982106 apparently part of the playerbase can't fathom the idea that agents can have stories on their own without including MC so devs dropped that format
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>>982112 I don't, sorry
does anyone still use Zhu Yuan?
>>982102 Caesar is to perfect for this gay world.
>>982106 Because devs dropped them
>>982121 I didn't want shifu so yeah
>>982121 Yes. I skipped Yixuan.
>>981250 I was genuinely intimidated for a few moments before laughing my ass off when I encountered this puzzle.
I HAVE SANBY I HAVE TRIGGA I HAVE SEED AND I WILL HAVE ORPHIE TOO
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>>982112 This one? Was it a goal clip
>>982117 can't fathom it, or don't like it?
>>982135 BASED AND OBOLPILLED
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>>982139 yess that one, nice
>>982098 Seed didn't feel fun to play, she felt really clunky with the switching between her and Seed Sr >>982099 What even is the source for this? Last week everyone was saying Orphie was better for Sanby and now Sanby buffs have suddenly changed that?
>>982117 Hang on part? How much of it? PART of the playerbase wants TV back and they are completely ignored
>>982142 whats the difference? story is a story regardless if MC is here or not not liking it solely because MC is not here is indeed "can't fathom"
>>982154 >clunky really? you can switch characters as soon as seed sr moves backwards for his big fuck you slam, I thought that was pretty cool
>>982117 >apparently part of the playerbase can't fathom the idea that agents can have stories on their own without including MC Was the chinks again claiming its them getting cucked or some stupid shit like that? wouldn't be the first time they pulled something like that.
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>>981897 I'm not subscribing to your social constructs.
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>>981328 Just missing 5% crit rate.
>>982117 you retards blame literally everything that changes in the game on the mysterious evil incel conglomerate
>>982161 >whats the difference? For you to be unable to detect the difference between the two, you must not understand what they are. Being able to fathom something means that you can understand it on a hypothetical level. For example, I can fathom being stabbed in belly. To like being stabbed in the belly means that you feel some form of satisfaction from it, whether that be physical or mental. More likely mental, since the human body is hardwired to dislike being harmed.
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>>982165 Its just speculation based on common complaint I've observed about why special episodes bad (no MC) >>982170 >mysterious evil incel conglomerate But its me
>>982161 We view the world through the MCs' eyes, so if we have a story that they aren't present, it's harder to make they connect in the future
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Today the truth was discovered (or at least reasonably guessed) on ZZZ's Discord (not by me even). It seems that Yixuan's Ink Manifestation and Cloud Shaper are designed to have very similar, if not identical DPS. That does mean that Cloud Shaper's 30% DMG increase in stun make it always better than Ink there, and everyone already knew that, but think of it like it's an IQ bell curve. There's >hurr durr it says more damage in stun so I press it in stun at the start, >but DMG% is very saturated and Ink Manifestation has considerably higher multipliers in the middle, and >but it also takes longer in a manner that's hard to estimate by the naked eye, and when adjusted for time required, the DPS of both moves ends up being remarkably similar with the 30% DMG buff making Cloud Shaper an objective winner regardless of DMG% saturation at the tail end of it.
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CREATOR, may I ask you to REFINE this disc?
Does every s rank bangboo have this change if you will pull them 3 times you get -1 req for agents on the team?
>>982196 2 CR 1 CDMG 1 Anomaly
>>982199 No, only the 2.0+ ones do.
>>982187 >so if we have a story that they aren't present, it's harder to make they connect in the future Sounds like a skill issue to me, there a plenty of media formats where story is told from different perspectives
>>982193 I don't even know what Ink Manifestation and Cloud Shaper are.
>>982196 2AP 1-2ATK, random crits
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>>982200 >>982208 Not quite. But I have another.
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>>982193 I skipped Shifu
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>>982210 Fuck me.
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>>980908 Today I will remind them
<test
>he tested
>>982222 did it work?
>>980908 No but I remember Tomiya
>>982203 I think they did it because in order to justify why the Agents are into (You) despite not being present in their episodes. Like how Jane Doe really likes to see the Proxies based on the amount of Dennies she spent renting tapes at your store in that one event.
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>>982234 Oh that actually makes sense
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>>982193 Okay I checked what those words meant. Wasn't Cloud Shaper always the better option anyway if we're talking about stun windows? Getting to the end of her EX takes way too long
>>982164 Swapping off Seed's charge is great, but some people keep calling it clunky because there isn't a flashing QA icon rewarding you for doing it
Oh plappers
>>982277 They can use her with Astra, if they absolutely need the QA. I don't, because you always swap to use your other Attacker's EX in the first place.
Shifu needs trial of the heart correction
Why does deadly assault make people stress so much? You only need 6 stars for the rewards you're worried about

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>>982286 Ok but will Nagi let me touch them to stabilize my meridians? What if I don't want to share with Soukaku?
>>982308 Nagi will let you touch them because she loves you
>>982089 I was waiting for it to break...
I am NOT in love with my sister.
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>>982345 you are now protected from schizophrenia, congenital heart disease, blindness, limb malformations, reduced fertility, lower cognitive function, smaller stature, reduced immune function and increased mortality rates good job!
>>982345 this doesn't mean that you can't have sex with her
>>982305 I want all the items
any new way to have fun and bring more soul to the game? ive been doing HZ with corn and its has brought new fun and soul to the game, had a very pretty good time so, any advice on this?
>>982305 I've been skipping for a while and 6 stars is hard to get now
>>982382 Play Billy
>>982388 thought about that, will do, will have to build him coz i have him at like lvl 20. but is there anything else i could do combat wise aside from hollow zero to have some newfound fun?
>>982390 Tower, I guess? You can try to clear shiyu/DA using pre-1.4 characters.
i've had such an ass day today. Its fucking dogsweather where im at and because it was raining, my foot slipped while i was parking my motorcycle making me drop it. now i've lost my entire day's salary just paying for parts that need replacing. post lewd lolis to cheer me up
>>982396 tower is a good option >>982403 if fufu says so i guess ill post some
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>>981328 Reporting in
>>981328 Sanbyshitter reporting for duty
>>982390 Also you don't have to build Billy(or any character you have) in Lost Void if you make sure the "Power Adaptation" option is active. The game gives you an okay-ish Lvl 60 character for free.
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>>982403 I spilled coffee on my carpet this morning and I still smell it
>went to get eye exam >20/40 vision >getting glasses in 2 weeks
>Couldn't resist and pulled Trigger's cone to make my brick Seed teams better since I don't like Orphie Hopefully skipping Lucia doesn't completely fuck me over
>>982461 >Trigger's cone i nyoticed
>>982461 What the fuck is a cone?
>>982467 >>982468 Uhh...haha it uhh looks like a cone you know, its not really a ball
>>982461 >Cone Is this why they say "Creator, refine me"?
>>981766 FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCKKKKKKK THEY MOVED HER LITTLE TENTACLE RADIATOR CHARM THING SLIGHTLY ITS OOOOOVVVVERRRRRRRRRR
>>981766 the design is still shit
Triggerbros, do you use 2p branch and blade for more damage on her if you have her ball or do you use 2p shockstar so you get more stun?
>>982475 The blender assets are available if you are rolling
>>982490 it genuinely looks worse what were they thinking
>>982219 godlike off piece for the future basic dmg focused rupture agent
>>982501 Shockstar
>>982490 easy skip to me, unless they move it back I'm not pulling
>>982523 I see, what about that 5th drive disc slot, now that she has def ignore should I still keep using PEN ratio? or should I switch to electric damage/ATK
>>982538 if you have def shred on your team comp pen% usually gets devalued compared to dmg% moreso on agents with no/minimal dmg% sources like trigger
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Legal in New Eridu
>>982614 Yes, because she is over 18.
>>982614 bout to drop some nukes and move out then
I feel like I should roll either buffed Sanby or Seed but dunno which.
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>>982616 Fufu might be 16.
>>982647 Whichever is cooler to you. Personally I'd say Sanby since she'll get better with every aftershock support
P-Pull for idols!!! You f-fucking pedo creep!!!
>>982657 Yeah, I'm leaning towards her. I like robots and feet, but Seed's kit just seems so restrictive. >>982658 >>982669 I have enough pulls saved to get several characters, including the idols. But Sanby and Seed seem so similar that it's hard to justify both. (Same reason I didn't get Alice since I already have Jane.)
>>982669 >P-Pull for idols when?
>>981895 Oh yeah jackass? If account seeds aren't real then explain this
>>982425 do a few BnB runs right now.
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>>982689 >BnB do what now?
>>982696 branch and blade disk
>>982696 it stands for burger n botatos
>>982718 Nagi mogs everyone she comes in contact with.
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>>982684 This image is photoshopped, I've seen a few edits so I can tell
>>982647 Sanby is a lot more fun to play even right now and isn't pigeonholed into double attacker teams and looks good
This cute dummy...I won't regret pulling her and her engine even if it turns out to be a brick in 2 patches
>>982731 >pigeonholed into double attacker teams I don't understand this thought process. To me Seed is effectively the same as a support you can use with any attacker (like an A-rank). She's flexible. If I didn't have Sanby already I think she'd be great.
>>982698 ahhhh right. I am usually just farming for a character in preparation for their launch / once I have them and then forget about my builds
My id deep throats me daily.
No...
>>982737 Pulling for the engines of character you like is never a bad idea, they make them stronger, so you can use them more often
>>982751 I'M CALLING NEPS RIGHT NOW
You know all this discussion about Sanby and Eve’s damage makes me wonder why they decided to make a filler character into the strongest non-743 shill agent in the game. We haven’t seen Eve since 1.5, I don’t even think she appeared in the summer event’s story, but she gets to be strong as fuck with a strong ass engine and a team tailor-made for her (Lighter, Astra) while being extremely flexible in team-building and taking advantage of every attacker shilling DA boss even when she’s off element. Someone on the dev team has to have a thick blonde fetish.
Of course I get the sexy ID while I’m mid commute…
>>982682 wait for 2.5 for prime, real pussy
>>982731 >isn't pigeonholed into double attacker teams >going to be paired with Orphie Heh
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>>982763 evelyn did appear briefly in the summer event who they really need to bring back into the story is this lovely rat
>>982763 main cause is lighter which is how eve is able to still score fairly high on bosses that don't even have fire weakness. lighter is just that good
>>982786 She had her NTR event
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>>982786 It's really hard to insert Jane in the story since she's an undercover agent
>>982731 That's like saying Hugo is pigeonholed into double stunner teams.
>>982796 It's as easy as giving her a new assignment
>>982799 He is
>>982786 Rat appeared too, but if you blink you'll miss her, she's very aloof and won't join directly
>>982754 It's a bad idea if there's more characters you like. You can clear with anyone without vertical investment if you like the character, you can't clear with a character you didn't pull
>>982816 just use (((it))) bro
>>982799 Yeah, he is. Lighter is pigeonholed into fire and ice teams (fire and ice attacker teams if you don't use other SoC characters), Lucia and Pan are pigeonholed into Rupture teams, Vivian is pigeonholed into disorder teams etc.
>>982816 Alice decided that our summer romance was a lie and didn't want to come home in 40 SAnby came home in 40 Only SAnby loves me
>>982738 Her passive requires an Attacker and doesn't even trigger from having Obol Squad Agents in your team. And her's isn't a passive I'd ever want to ignore, it's free damage and keeps her Vanguard's EX charged.
>>982836 This is why I pulled her specifically, granted hearing about Sanby's buff influenced me a bit since her team with her is already pretty good but wouldn't any attacker in the future fit into a Seed team because of her rather generalistic buffs and good personal damage? for sure I don't expect it to ever be the actual best in slot for future attackers since hypercarry teams are usually busted but I really do feel like she would work with literally any attacker that's not anomaly focused or some other niche thing
>>982827 By that metric any team restriction is pigeonholing. Pretty reductive logic when team building is pretty open in this game. The only one I could give you is Lighter because of how good his buffs are, but for attackers, stunners, most of the units in general they're too versatile to be considered pigeon holed. You can use bricks like Anton with Seed for example, or lower tier stunners with Hugo for decent effect.
supports are pigeonholed into all teams
>>982836 Yeah and like I said you can easily use an A-rank with her. She's like an onfield wheelchair. Nicole-Corin-Astra Nicole-Seed-Corin
Trigger is pigeonholed into stacking Crit Rate
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good morning, zhao status?
>>982787 She’ll can still hit around 30k with Koleda/Astra, and she synergizes bigly with Fufu. Of course everyone works with Trigger, Caesar, and Nicole too. Obviously Lighter is her best support, but she doesn’t need him to score high. She has plenty of strong teams and gets to have one of the strongest low cost teams on top of that.
>>982866 Still the only thing worth rolling aside from Orphie and Idols
>>982866 Solid
>>982874 You don't think Lucia's worth? I'm hoping she isn't because if she is I'm not sure what I'm going to do
>>982848 Yeah but if you wanted to use her with Shifu for example you're kinda stepping on one another's toes and won't get Seed's buff unless you run another Attacker. She does work with literally every Attacker in the game but she fits better with some than others. >>982860 No shit but she literally NEEDS another Attacker Agent to get her passive. I'm not saying there isn't variety in that, you could theoretically play a stupid Disorder team with her if you're an insane person and build Anomaly Corin or something.
>>982835 Miyabi came to me in 20
>>982877 She is if you like playing Shifu and/or are planning on rolling Yidhari. Outside of rupture teams she really doesn't do anything and I don't own any rupture characters so she's an easy skip to me
>>982881 Seed doesn't work with rupture and cannot confer her bonus because rupture agents aren't attackers.
>>982891 observe
>>982891 Jufufu comes fast I see >>982893 And Bibi comes hard all over the bed
STOP SHOWING OFF
>>982891 Ultimate phon linger >>982893 that's not real. I refuse to believe it
witness
>>982888 Yeah that's literally what I'm trying to say. Seed doesn't work in any team comp that isn't double attacker. >>982891 EXPLODE
>>982897 the glitter is very well aligned, usually a generic edit job would just copypaste 3 equal entries im not the source of the pic, but i had to save it lol, someone posted it here in 1.7
>>982899 at least you win the 50/50s?
>>982738 >>982848 But Seed isn't a support, in all of her teams she either plays as a carry and uses the other attacker as a battery or splits the field time with the other attacker, she has buffs comparable to a support because there there aren't enough slots on the team to put two attackers, a stunner and a support. How well future attackers will play with her depends on their kits, for example Hugo doesn't work well with her already. >>982850 >attackers work with the character that needs attackers and stunners work with the character that needs stunners That's crazy! You could have at least brought up how Astra's steroids are big enough for her to be a viable support for Hugo.
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I have yet to get a double in any HOYO game...
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>>982905 >at least bro this is huge for me
>>982907 I got a double miss esme
>>982888 Which is ironic because Orphie is another dual-DPS attacker character but her passive isn't cockblocked like this so she can be used with Rupture agents, for example Manato, and could work with an anomaly agent that doesn't want to run disorder or mono-shenanigans teams
>>982907 The closest I got is C1 Yuzu at 4 pity but it was on separate multis. I got a double with Encore and Shorekeeper in Wuwa a year ago and a few doubles in Limbabs.
>>982907 same, I've gotten 4 back to backs in multis but no doubles
>>982906 If you're someone that's using Trigger with her ball for example you have two characters buffing that second slot while providing stun and a fuckton of personal damage it will most likely work quite well, especially since as far as I know Seed doesn't really require much time on stun phases unless you're planning on tossing her ultimate out on them. I just did this DA stage without knowing any combos or special stun timings or whatever, all I did was onfield Sanby as much as possible during stun phases and I think I got a pretty good score all things considered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwbWYrPBjag I wanna play as the starlight knights
I got double S-Rank W-Engines once, I think that was how I got Rina's ball. I also got two copies of Red Moccus on one 10 pull when he was new. Speaking of are there any other Bangboo that reduce their faction requirement like Belion does when you get them to M3?
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>>982940 miss esme and mercury
>>982907 I got once but bangboo banner
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I'm probably pulling Seed because I don't like Sanby's playstyle and I doubt these buff would change that! I guess
>>982942 >not just astra ball, double astra ball! bro...
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>>982958 >That ID Oh shit, it's a sign
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full nelson to my ID
^_^
>>982977 Jane...
>>982942 >wasting your luck on astraball im so sorry...
>>982982 >^_^ seed sr became a corporate-looking clanker...
>>982982 > Please do not resist, we are helping you.. Kind of vibes when they slice and slam you. Why would anyone want a unicycle robot that has twin sawblades as hands for anything but destruction?
>>982982 Love this sort of aesthetic
>>982994 someone needs to trim the bushes
>>982906 >>982906 >You could have at least brought up how Astra's steroids are big enough for her to be a viable support for Hugo I didn't think it needed to be said, you could run Lucy with Hugo even and it still kinda works if she's built right. >But Seed isn't a support, in all of her teams she either plays as a carry and uses the other attacker as a battery or splits the field time with the other attacker, That' still a huge amount of variance and lets Seed work as a weird support character, and one that can use odd ball A rank attackers at that. >>982900 Oh I thought you were saying rupture agents were the same, Seed can't even activate half her buffs without a DPS.
>>982914 I am going to roll her for Monato if I'm able, Really both her and Seed are fun and unique for comps and I like them both a lot. Orphie is really the most versatile unit maybe in the game. >>982903 I can't tell if it's fake but I choose to believe it is because I'm not that lucky in this game.
buh buh huhuhuhuh
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pipah luce still going strong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWGJdPfDxZg
>>982982 >>982993 so we're done with the exaltists for a bit right
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I wonder when we'll start to dive in the new eridu trailer plotline, I feel like the proxies are a bit too weak to handle stuff of that magnitude yet though
>>982982 Why does the left one have a pussy The bowtie is funny >>982994 So that's who was tending to all the gardens in Porcelumex I suppose I assume these staff a deeper, unmanned part of the facility which will be a fun reveal
>>983014 aren't exaltists the main enemies and connected with their teacher?
Exaltists are cool
>>983024 yeah but from what I gathered in 2.2 we kind of rekt a lot of them and sarah's the new overseer this might be a more TOPS related patch I think they also are bad guys we gotta get to the bottom of and not necessarily aligned with exaltists
>>982914 >her passive isn't cockblocked It very much is. 700 ATK = measly 175 sheer. None of the current ruptures have aftershocks to extend the buff, and even if they did they can't use the def shred from her add. passive. Orphie Lighter isn't Manato's best team because they're synergistic, it's because Orphie does more personal damage than Manato could himself in a hypercarry team while taking no field time and Lighter enhances that.
>>982982 edgelord komano looking cool
>>982993 >spoiler I fucking KNEW it. This ain't a damn HIA uniform. Damian is wearing a spacesuit to go to the MOON with the MOON rabbit. Lunarcope is back on the menu!
>>983033 Not that it changes the overall picture, but the conversion rate is 30% not 25%.
Bibian skin not completely dead
>>983032 probably. tops won't be an one-off patch so this might be the beginning of its arc. and they are probably connected with exaltits anywau
>>981328 I always believed in my beautiful autistic clone gf even though I've been farming for disks for her for the past 5 or so months and I still can't get the crit rate/damage ratio i want...
>>983057 I believe
>>983057 >Iris of the Shore So it's sea-themed, makes sense with Yid. But I still don't know how they could make a swimsuit that works with her giant skirt thrusters, those are pretty vital to her design and animations
>>983070 she has a big ass floatie that comes with them
>>983070 in the screenshot they mention new VFX animations, and we know from Alice's skin that they can change animations for the skin
Us going to the moon was always kind of a forgone conclusion, you think it's a coincidence they made Lemnian Hollow be an old spaceport or that Isolde's Miasma fight was pulling some Bloodborne bullshit? Also, remember that a lot of places on the moon are named after bodies of water. Iris of the Shore could very well be some kind of space suit.
>>983083 vivian isn't really relevant to this patch's story though from line counts (which to be fair are usually off but she has 0)
>>983086 Do we know what the main event is for next patch?
>>982907 I got it once with my FUARKING WIFE, and I was one pull off from getting a double Burnice pull back in 1.2
were there leaks what did I miss
>>983095 zhaoful zhaone zharo
>>983089 some sort of pokemon rip off
>>983097 We knew that already from the first iteration of this beta MINE HARDER, DATAMINERS
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>>983057 >Iris of the Shore Ship it
>>983033 Doesn't the attack steroid still boost his damage anyway? Sheer is sheer but attack needs to be there to having something to sheer for right? Also Lighter gives decent fire damage and moderate cdmg buffs that shouldn't over saturate his CDMG along with res shred which Monato already has and can use more of.
Good afternoon. Raping child status?
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>>981328 I need to go back to the mines so I can hit 220% crit damage >>982907 Got a double SAnby after losing the 50/50 to Neko
>>983097 >not bangboo are they dumb....
summer vacation with corin...
>>983114 lucia summons ethereals and shit so that's why
>>983116 it was bad enough you spent the whole summer with high schoolers, now you're bringing along a MIDDLE SCHOOLER?!?!?!?!
>>983116 Corn grew...
>>983120 I wish there's more middle schoolers in this game.
>>983112 I love committing voter fraud for Democrats.
>>983112 Raped
>>983131 Sex with Corn. Making children with Corn.
>>983120 Corin is 16.
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>>983155 I can see the exposed cornfield.
leda buffs tomorrow
[Controversial] New Lucia looks good Old one looked like an alien bug
Controversial] New Lucia looks like an alien bug Old one looked like an alien bug
>>983225 meh I don't like it but i'll get over it because she's still cute atleast for yiddy niggas they made her boobs bigger
let me upgrade discs on this screen so I can see if they're actually a lock or trash
>>983220 >>983224 Pretty based, good work bro
>>983206 As much as I think she needs them they probably won't since she's a standard banner character. I think they might do alts in this game though, it'd be cool if they did considering they keep bringing back old characters to appear in current events and stories so I don't see why not
>>983224 based
>>983225 Yeah, Lucia was too distinctive. I'm glad she looks more like Yixuan now.
>>983242 >>983244 https://x.com/Moletter2/status/1967985942465302721 it's not mine, it's from a random nip on twitter that I found while looking for more fanart
>>983172 Out of 100!
>>983251 16/100 is pretty bad...
>>983110 >Doesn't the attack steroid still boost his damage anyway? Yeah, but not by much. As a support for Manato, Orphie is worse than Lucy but her role isn't really that of a support. You don't play her for her buff. She and Sanby are the only ones that can keep it up and abuse it. She is a DPS first and foremost. >attack needs to be there to having something to sheer for right? Sheer isn't a multiplier like AP if that's what you mean, it replaces attack for Rupture agents. Say Shifu has a 600% multiplier on her EX special, that attack does 600% her sheer rather than 600% her attack like other classes. Got the ratio wrong before, ruptures convert 30% of their attack and Shifu/Yiddy/Manato convert 10% of their HP into sheer. On average sheer force is 25% lower than attack for other DPS, and the trade off is that it ignores def. > Yeah Lighter is good for Manato. Orphie is the best bridge for the two because her personal damage mogs Lucy and Caesar's buffs for Manato. That doesn't mean she's more flexible as a sub-DPS than Seed or works with rupture. Manato just likes Lighter and Lighter works with Orphie. I doubt it would be even half as effective for Yiddy, and Orphie would be even less effective for any rupture that isn't fire/ice.
>>983120 Middle School girls are sexy.
>>983251 what an awful review... corrin is getting fired
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>>983224 I wonder if someone will make seed in mass builder
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Creator refry me!
>>983243 I don't think she's popular enough to get one over some other more obvious agents, but I do wish one day she gets *something*
still waiting on those corn buffs btw haha
>>983251 Corin pack your fucking bags, maybe Nicole will hire your awful ass
Would you buy a ZZZ flavored controller?
>>983269 why would I want to eat a controller what does ZZZ taste like
>>983264 You never know, one of their other games seems very content giving two alternative versions to one of the most boring characters known to mankind that literally no one likes. Koleda is sexy and pretty, they can probably make her appeal to a broader aucience by changing up her hairstyle and clothing alone
>>983269 Are these good anyway?
>>983270 >what does ZZZ taste like sweaty ass
>>983269 Depends on what brand/model.
2.4 won't have any character I want and I will win the next 2 50/50s and live happily with lucia + murphy
I can't think of a single compelling reason I shouldn't have sex with Corin, Soukaku and Jufufu
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Buff and alt and schoolgirl skin soon, trust the plan. >>983272 >Koleda is sexy and pretty and cute and smart and tall too.
Koleda alt where she gets a scooter and pilots an invisible Geroy
>>983272 >one of their other games seems very content giving two alternative versions to one of the most boring characters known to mankind that literally no one likes Chinks love Elysia though
>>983284 Corin would vomit all over the bed. Soukaku will suck on your penis like a straw with her mighty oni strength. Shifu wouldn't allow it and offer her pussy instead (she will leglock you the entire time)
>>983295 >ult voiceline GEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYY
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>>983273 I've got the Ultimate 2 Wireless (not the star rail version) and I'm happy with it. The start and select buttons are a little higher if you're use to an Xbox controller setup.
>>983142 >>983143 extremely based users over here
>>983269 Yes but not this one, I think their Pro line is better
Ah shit I forgot S11.
>>983298 The problem is that dragon faggot, not Elysia
my most beloved and intimate friends, its officially rape hours!
>>983324 >S rank Ben Ben BIGGEST
Real data mining survey post. https://poal.me/t8wntw
>>983330 I want to cum inside Chinatsu so bad wtf
>>983333 Checked.
Who is releasing first zhao or the idols?
>>983333 S rank corn huh
>>983344 Zhao zenless
>>983339 cant blame ya shes kinda cute tbh
>>983333 I want to see what Lucy can do with her famous whip.
>>983333 S rank Lucy better have plethora of beeped combat voiceline due to racism.
>>980380 >reverse BBL lucia to give yidhari a titjob
>>983382 >pulchra will never call you a good boy Tell me why i shouldnt just kill myself
>>983395 Livestream it
>>983399 You guys really like that video.
>>983120 how can we go even further?...
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>>983333 S-rank Fire/Rupture Lucy, who comes with a hot swimsuit/lingerie skin when?
>>983333 Support Corin?
Which agent would tell people to kill themselves the most?
>>983409 Alice (Yuzuha told her kys means keep yourself safe)
>>983370 Recording her moans & all the clapping sounds to be sampled for her upcoming hit song.
>>983409 You should sacrifice yourself, NOW! ⚡⚡
>>983428 BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
bake
>>983390 the good stuff >>983416 guaranteed it will break the internet
i would love nothing more than getting S - rank corn, but how would you realistically improve uppon her design? Corn is already one of ZZZ's best designed characters imo
>>983450 Smiling Corin.


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