>>788 >Do you get bored to death by progressive relaxation inductions For me, this is a really big yes. I get bored really quickly not just by the induction but by the main part too. I've listened to many files where I don't think I tranced at all and many files where I convinced myself I actually went deep, but in the end I have never listened to a file where I felt like I couldn't snap out of it on a whim. This is why I find those "No awakener" warnings really silly

>>791 >For me, this is a really big yes. I get bored really quickly not just by the induction but by the main part too. I don't even get the point of relaxation. I couldn't tell what this is or how it feels, so I wouldn't even be able to tell if I am becoming more relaxed. I can tell if I'm feeling warm, tired, hungry, or if my arm raised on command, but being relaxed is more like the absence of stress, it's not a state of its own, at least not one I could try to reach during an induction. That's why I prefer inductions that don't ask such things, and files that don't try to prematurely squeeze out a reaction. >and many files where I convinced myself I actually went deep, but in the end I have never listened to a file where I felt like I couldn't snap out of it on a whim That for example is the reason why the highly praised 83c4us3 series of N1kk1 isn't for me, because it tries to make your hand move halfway into the first part, and when that fails, it destroys everything which it might have built up until that point. And that's also why I struggle with "training" with such files, because if the file insists to prove itself ineffective each time I listen, how could I make myself believe that it will start working at some point? With any other file or loop recording I can at least have the illusion that another week of listening might do something. But in the end, it was probably all doomed to begin with, since no matter what I try, it just doesn't work. I wished there was some way to brute force hypnosis, like "listen to this 100 times, then it WILL work". Sadly brute forcing hypnosis is a contradiction in itself, and the list of things that usually make good subjects always read like a list of things I suck at. Feels bad to be left out for reasons I have little influence over, honestly. Well, at least it's still cherished fantasy, even if I can't live it out.

are you using the proper breathing techniques? Look up DMT Breathwork, which causes your body to release DMT naturally.

>>795 >are you using the proper breathing techniques? Not unless they were mentioned in the audio file itself, so I was familiar with box breathing, but never employed it beyond the usual "take three deep breaths and hold it" suggestions. I checked out a few resources, and while some of the videos had a certain bro science / car salesman vibe to it, I can imagine that this is actually helpful, at least to feel prepared and to get into the right mindset. Thanks for the advice!

OP, I have pretty strong ADHD (when I got tested for the diagnosis, I truly tried to pay attention for the reading test, and still tested for 2nd percentile attention span), and most of my experiences with hypnosis are pretty much the same as yours. I've had some success in the past, but it's been a while since I've pulled it off correctly and dropped super deep. I've personally always felt like I have a "strong natural brain defense mechanism that kicks in if someone else tries to take control", and I wish there was something that could easily trance me, or perhaps I just don't have the right mindset? Not sure, but tried at least a little of every tist out there, and some have worked, sometimes, but it's just disheartening at this point. Open to new ideas, always. If anyone here knows how to drop super deep as an ADHD personal / adderall user, PLEASE let me know.

i have been doing hypnosis for about 15 years. it does not work if u think, you must learn to let go of mind and thinking process, mind is like a filter that some times does not let you go into hypnosis. thinking process distorts the words, it puts up a shield for the ego,and words seem to have no influence when this is happening. sometimes people fall under the influence of a auto sugestion, so they say that some hypnotist blew their mind from the first listening, they fail to comprehend that hypnosis is always a self hypnosis, there is no other kind, a hypnotist may be like a crutch, but real hypnosit is a mental proces that person does to thy self. and it gets better when you develop no thinking-mind and imagination. imagination like imagining a thing, event in your mind like a movie, but fully engaged, with sight, touch, taste, feeling in body, emotions, than words became a blueprint for imagination to experience. that is hypnosis. And beware of bad hypnotist all hypnotist that say they want you to listen to only and exclusively them should be avoided.

I can also say from my experience that bodily relaxation is vital! And this is a field of constant improvement. If I accomplish deeper bodily relaxation in a session, it has a retroactive effect on my mind that makes me much more receptible. My routine on my bed is a product of me trying to get myself in a situation like in a floating tank (disclaimer: I never was in such a tank). - I use in-ear Bluetooth earphones. - I use a sleeping mask that, in a room as dark as I can make it, doesn't let me perceive any residual light, even when the eyes adjusted to darkness and I look around. The mask also doesn't touch my eyes. These traits are important to me. I often tend to naturally open my eyes. I also had situations where my unconscious was obviously engrossed in the hypnosis and was frantically using my eyes to search around for any clues. But since it was completely dark for me so that it didn't find clues and my eyes didn't touch the mask, the hypnosis effect was maintained and let me make deep progress. - I bought an inflatable head cushion with a hole in the center and don't pump it up fully to get equal weight distribution on the head. - I use a folded scarf (quite flat) under my lower back. - I use bed shoes stuffed with feathers to not get cold feet (when it's not summer). (Blanket weighing on feet would be bad.) - I use a weighted blanket (in the summer this may be too hot, but then I need a bit of other cloth around my ankles, so my feet don't fall to the sides). - I use two cushions for my arms and hands to get a natural position for them like astronauts on a space station naturally have them hanging/floating around. - Very important is also that I always tape my mouth shut with 3M Micropore tape. (I recommend to fold a tiny bit of one end, in case you ever need to sneeze.) I do this in conjunction with using a nasal spreader to get enough air. On the one hand, the tape prevents drying of my mouth and some of the saliva-related annoying effects when the mouth falls open, or having to pay attention to keeping the mouth closed. On the other hand, it has the retroactive effect of thinking that I'm not allowed to say anything against what is said to me, which makes me more receptible. - In the winter, I also use gloves. - (Otherwise, I'm naked.) And I avoid movements, because it stirs up my mind which destroys the mental state. Over the years, I had it to do with a number of disturbing effects: itching skin, an easily triggered swallowing reflex, and - further down the road - saliva running down the throat while I didn't want to swallow because it's movement. But conditioning myself from session to session to session - sometimes under considerable difficulty - to turn to the things of higher priority, i.e., deepening hypnosis long-term, made it possible for me to achieve a number of breakthroughs. For reference: The last years, I always have sessions with a length of 1.5 to 2 hours, lately always 1.5. At the start, I had to push myself through a bit when the mental chatter was still more intense. Then, my mind got to know the routine. Just like with meditation, the mental chatter still can be there from time to time, though. For this to work smoothly, I adjust the volume of single sessions losslessly with MP3Gain (with a little fidgeting also available for AAC in .m4a) and use the Windows equalizer program Peace with a custom setting that reduces sharp high-frequency noises that works well for different tists including 4t|-|alia. That way, I don't have to move to adjust the volume mid-session when a new file starts. I have a couple of directories that I sort newly listened to files into that represent ratings from 0 to 5 (with the tist's name always in the file/folder name of course, so it doesn't get messy). The directory for rating 5 is full enough that I rarely listen to files from other rating directories. And in that directory, I have some go-to files that I use quite often. I'm currently on the mission to listen to all 5-rated files again, though, by moving them to the subdirectory "Relistened" one by one. When that is done, they can all be moved out of the subdirectory again.

>>https://8kun.top/hypno/res/83020.html#83044 >Use the bathroom before you listen I always pour very warm water over the tip of my penis. This makes you empty your bladder completely, even if you otherwise have trouble starting to pee. That way, you're making it less probable that your bladder starts to distract you mid-session.

>>788 Same. I also cant fall into hypnosis. Been trying for years. If i let go, im basically literally fall asleep.