>>9637 > Do you all think people with too low bodyfat and high muscle look kind of gay and weird? I am sorry for this reply but , it is complicated 1. Lot of gays and twinks can only eat certain foods to keep their assholes (and the pipe) clean and clear so anal is safe for condomless sex, leading to them becoming weirdly thin. 2. Going low body fat (below 10%) without ketosis and strange diet often leads to mental issues (brain feeds on fat as its food) and hormonal issues. 3. Most people who work on body a lot have body dysmorphia and their perception of how they look is warped and very subjective. They have serious mental issues that they remove on weights. I can go into lot more detail, I went into a deep dive into this after my friend had similar issues and she went from skinny bulemic grill into an FBB. Another friend who is in the top 1% of body builders is scared of talking to grills even though he looks like adonis. Also reminds me, I went to a famous beautiful beach. 3 good looking dudes, flexing and taking pics. Ton of single women thirsting after them and they would not talk to any of them. They were talking in an Indian language that I understood, were complaining about being single, while women were salivating around them. I have to restrict my mind to stay grounded in the present. > Twitter videos posted to Instagram posted to Reddit and the rest of the big websites. It is fine if the content is worth it. I am now realising how much i have lost due to sitting. But I get this a lot. Markdown is my format of choice for personal notes and it bleeds into posts. People on old InCh would complaint about how it is reddit markdown. I understand the hate. Most of the content there seems AI generated bait that people fall for. My only exposure to Reddit is, needing device reviews for obscure hardware. I used to use Libreddit for it. I kind of stopped that even now.

>>9654 you fucking nigger fatty post physique

>>9658 In said nothing defamotory did I ? I am skinny fat upper body and well developed muscular legs due to cycling daily. It looks weird and wrong. I am doing a lot of things wrong. But Mayocarditis and lungs damaged due to heart issues. So exercise capacity is extremely limited. I developed IBS due to meds. Vaccine stuff us not discussed enough.

>>9654 https://education.futuremethod.com/bottom-diet-tips-learn-what-to-eat-before-bottoming/

>>9654 Thank you for the... detailed reply anon. >Most people who work on body a lot have body dysmorphia and their perception of how they look is warped and very subjective. They have serious mental issues that they remove on weights. Maybe it's a spectrum? Like, I started with the motivation of simple physical fitness, and somehow it turned into "I need to get bigger/stronger". This path has no end, no finish line. Yes you can hit 2/3/4/5 or whatever but there's no cheering squad outside the gym when you do. It's just another day at the gym and you know you'll be back for the next workout. It's never enough, so if you're not careful you'll keep chasing the next mirage - supplements, anabolic steroids, TRT, whatever, for reasons even the athlete doesn't comprehend. I don't see it happening to me, but maybe that's the way it happened/happens to other people. As I said before, it becomes hard to train when you have no specific objective in mind, so if there isn't one, the mind fabricates one for itself. >Another friend who is in the top 1% of body builders is scared of talking to grills even though he looks like adonis Really has nothing to do with muscles or strength, or you'd never see people with below average bodies with girlfriends. >>9665 V-very helpful... thank you. Will send this on to my boyfriend.

>>9676 Maybe it reflects on me, that i have only met extremists and rarely any balanced individuals. This gives me something to think about. I have friends that did hard steroids in early 20's and in early 30's crashed hard physically.

>>9637 Most men who do that are gay. Very rare to see irl. Physiques only start to look gay to me when they either train to be twinks or take steroids and shave, whether gay or not, it's a physique that appeals to men. Caffeine generally sucks for workouts imo as it restricts bloodflow. For me personally, it crushes my appetite. Unrelated, but you should aim to do more pushups. It is the most important test to determine overall functional strength. >>9676 Physical development should always be a solitary pursuit and informed by your own goals, not the goals or standards of others. >>9665 Unrelated, but I had a weird gay interaction. I think I posted this before, but I would say I am good looking but not obscenely so. This is somewhat important for the story - >walking outside my house >car approaches from the opposite direction, slows, rolls down window and drives by me >driver leans over the seat, makes eye contact with me (I'm weirded out and think I'm about to get robbed) and starts saying something that I couldn't make out >walk past and he continues in the other direction >hear a car driving behind me >somehow know its the same guy >turn around, hes parked right behind me >opens window (this dude looks super gay, trimmed and manicured, muscular but in the gay way, no real traps just biceps and chest, wearing a black dress shirt) >him "hi how how are you?" >me "can i help you?" >him"oh nothing im just going for a walk" (while sitting in his car) >I walk away weirded out This dude was trying to pick me up or something. Just bizarre.

>>9690 *pullups not pushups.

>>9628 He had midgets jerking him off on the island

>>9579 What are the prerequisites for applying? Let's say I'm gonna go next year; How fit am I expected to be?

I'm posting my physique because germanon didn't. >>9690 >Physiques only start to look gay to me when they either train to be twinks I think it's people who were very skinny and lean to begin with, and then train their muscles without bulking too hard. >Caffeine I don't take it every workout, just the ones when I'm sleepy or low energy. Can't skip work because I want to train, and vice versa. >gay interaction I've had men touching my thighs on the bus, and trying to touch my dick through their pockets at crowd at the kirana store (i was actually a kid back then). I've concluded that gay people tend to shoot their shot a lot without worrying too much "just in case" the guy they find hot is also gay (even if he doesn't look so) so there are likely a lot of people with experiences similar to yours. >>9696 kek

>>9698 Anon. Look into the Ozempic epidemic. Picrel is my physiq, but legs are way more developed. My arms are not as developed as they used to be. Office job is killing me. I am sick with something so brain is jelly atm.

>>9697 Enough to boulder a small wall. Based on that they will decide which climbs you need to train on.

Shredded friend and me discuss health issues caused by sitting too much. He suggests using a cold patch and cooling my balls daily. Not too much but just twice a day There was also a good study on this, which I thought I shared here, but I think I forgot. Sitting a lot reduces IQ as well.

>>9772 Cold patch on balls is immediate win I will do this daily , twice a day minimum. Will be tough to keep it when I join work.

>>9707 Picrel is my physique. I can't eat much, I just feel like throwing up. It's a more of a mental issue and I haven't figured out how to cure that.

>>9791 drink more water to expand your stomach.

Something's wrong with my routine or my body. I've been lifting for more than a year now, but i haven't seen the same results as apparently expected - 1-2 lbs of muscle every month and lifts going up rather fast. I started with starting strength a little less than a year ago. By now i should be benching like 100kg? squatting 150? something. I stopped squatting because 1) it left me with no energy to do the rest of the exercises in that workout and 2) the bench and the press stalled hard. I decided to resume it once i get the other lifts up to speed. Going to swallow my pride and tell you the numbers. I stopped when i could squat 90kg total (total meaning including the bar). I can OHP 50kg total. and can bench 74kg total, all for 3 sets 5 reps. I don't do deadlifts or cleans because "would start them once i'm good at the other lifts" which seems to be never. I got sick 2 weeks ago, and completely stopped eating chicken (~250g on the scale), protein powder (only some days), milk (1 liter), and creatine, all of which i used to have daily, to get some ~150g of protein. Because it was a stomach thing, I lost appetite and had no more than one small meal each day. I thought all of this would have shaved off tens of kgs from my lifts. Guess what? I went to the gym yesterday and did nearly the same lifts as i could before falling sick. Weighed myself and seems i lost 2 kgs. This workout was a 74kg bench press, 3 sets of 5 reps but i missed a couple on the last set. Which is funny as hell because i thought my lifts going up was just because of the creatine and that i didn't gain muscle or strength. Now I just don't know what to think. Did the creatine not work, or is 2 weeks too little to let it wash out of the system? I do think i've deflated visibly. And what the hell is wrong with my workout and diet? I've put a lot of effort into this and this is just disappointing. Thought i'd be hitting 1/2/3/4 at the end of the year - seems not. I don't want to tell you my height and weight, but my BMI is 29. I did gain weight over the period of one year, like 25kg, my bf% is probably 30% to 35%. If you have stayed with me till now, thank you. If you can think of any mistakes i'm making in all of this, please PLEASE tell me. >>9791 As >>9792 says, or better yet, milk. Free calories. I know i'm not that strong, but my lifts went up every time my weight jumped.

>>9793 Do you get enough sleep ?

>>9800 I don't always, but having 6 hours of sleep instead of 7 basically negating all the training you have done is just so hard to believe. Maybe you'd see 70 percent of the results you'd have otherwise? 50? Not zero...

>>9804 This is strange indeed. Though you are expecting very optimistic results, but your progress is indeed not right. If not sleep then it is something with the diet. Did you get a bloodtest ? When was the last time you had a deworming tablet ? It is only 10 Rs or so, but everyone should take one atleast once a year. A lot of people have stomach parasites and don't even know it. I would wait for other anons to point the specifics of lifting.

>>9793 Not trying to be an asshole but that progress sounds pretty normal. Track your calories and macros and keep working out. Sometimes your nervous system just needs a break. Happens to me sometimes where I come back from a break stronger or just as strong. I can reply in detail later but you're being too harsh. Muscle and strength gains are slow.

I can't be sure, but another gym session later (this time i did squats) I'm thinking it's to do with recovery, either with sleep, stress, or nutrition. >>9805 Got a blood test a few months ago. Vitamin D as always was found to be scarce. I also got a deworming cap after reading your post yesterday. Going to get another test this weekend. >>9806 I'm just comparing myself to the progress records I find online and in strength training books. Know someone who got into lifting later than me but was squatting 100kg last time i talked to him. Sure, any progress is better than none, but if there's something wrong, best fix it, right? I'll try to eat in surplus. Thanks for the replies anons

>>9809 I learnt this after lot of damage, to always mind my vitamins and avoid infections. Sickess and im-balanced nutrition hurts your gains more than anything else. Will write a longish post later, about how I found my balance.

Drank a little along with some idli sambhar yesterday. Couldnt sleep much. Heart rate averaging at 140 BPM over 16 hours. Watch thinks I have been exercising all day and night. Headache hasn't subsided. I did not even drink that much. 2 glasses Max.

>>9822 >140 BPM over 16 hours what the FUCK Are you sure you didn't drink 2 glasses of Redbull?

>>9822 >>9823 Indeed, this is really bad yaro. Take care.

>>9823 >>9826 MY recovery is consistently poor. It doesn't matter good sleep or bad (though good sleep is rare) , my vo2 max is fucked and my HRV too swings between decent and bad.

>>9829 This is from yesterday. Today HRV is 19ms and body is completely exhausted. On a related note, can highly recommend gadgetbridge. Check compatibility for your watch before you get it and then get it.

>>9829 How does this measure stress?

>>9838 https://www.garmin.com/en-US/garmin-technology/health-science/stress-tracking/ It is fairly accurate

Have been having some kind of allergic reaction to something. First heart rate then non stop fever. Will get a blood work done soon. It is due anyway.

>>9838 https://www.ultrahuman.com/ring/buy/in/ This is a company I am willing to try. Although yet another device whose battery will die is discouraging. But 1. A ring is far less intrusive than a bulky watch 2. I don't need GPS data, metabolism and sleep data is fine Lets see. My current watch will last me a while and tech will mature until then. I do like data autism though. I just wish there was something good for measuring calorie intake too. Calorie counting apps are fine for packaged foods, but don't work well for home made dal chawal or something like it.

>>9849 https://github.com/simonoppowa/OpenNutriTracker Lets see. I will try this out. Probably will have the same frustrations with home made meals though.

>>9850 I tried this and another app on FDroid. The data is definitely very misleading and on the higher side. But even as a general trend detection, it is better than not tracking my food intake at all.

>>9850 >>9854 For ballpark figures this is great. But it is hard to find anything outside the most normie foods. I will also need a new weighing scale in the future.