>>49351 >Centaur pussy. Regretfully, that doujin just shoves a human pussy on a centaur girl instead of giving us proper centaur pussy. The girl's adorable though

Dune Dropin Arrakis 16 yo male (+6d8 age Im not rolling right now) Military training free Kwisatz haderach candidate 750 Mentat 250 Reverend mother -250 Item Briefcase of melange -500 Drawbacks Kanly +300 Melange addiction +200 Im just going to assume the harkonens hate my guts and Im also addicted to spice, but thats fine since Im on spice world and have a respawning case of spice melange. Im going to need to figure out a way to take some sandworms with me I think. I kinda want to dump them on tatooine.

>>49355 Sandworms are just an ungodly amount of fish all stuck together, so you can just steal a breeding supply of the fish to bring them to future jumps.

It's so painful to love the look of dark skin with white hair but be too self-conscious of my RL whiteness to let my own Jumper rock that look full-time.

>>49349 Yes, I do find it hard to comprehend why man can be into futa and femboys and still claim they are not gay. It is just too illogical.

>>49356 Are they? I thought they were individual sand trout that just kept growing

>>49359 Yep. Whatshisname turned himself into a sandworm by calling a bunch of trout to gather onto him

>>49357 I don't see why your whiteness would stop you from being tanned with white hair?

>>49357 Just turn off the computer, put down the phone and go outside and garden. You can get that tan if you stop being lazy.

>>49357 I'm definitely going to steal that picture for a jumper. ... I'm thinking How Heavy Are The Dumbells You Lift for the permanent tan and Assassination Classroom for the white hair, strikingly blue eyes, and androgyny?

What are some sufficiently gyaru-esque activities for a gyaru Jumper to get up to on their Chain?

>>49364 Forcefully feminizing nerds. Also smoking, drinking, whoring, and accessorizing

>>49364 Glitter bomb attacks and a boob job ray to up those flatties into bouncies

>>49354 Shameful.

>>49274 Have you thought about doing a watch along to it on stream? You could just have it on off screen and just react to it whilst it plays like Razzle, YMS & Pretty much it do.

>>49367 Nta, but most Japs do not want horse pussy, Just like how they add a horse cock onto everything. Goats, bulls, pigs, ducks... all have horse cocks for some reason.

>>49370 It's the most aesthetically pleasing non-human penis type according to my then female friends.

>>49352 Boredom.

>>49371 I find that hard to believe because most human women complain if a guy is too big for them. Cervix busting is not pleasant for them. And now ask what they think about knots?

>>49370 >animal cock >but not animal pussy Shameful. >>49371 Horsecock is aethetically pleasing? The competition isn't exactly big. Eheh big... >according to my then female friends bruwhat

>>49367 Yeah, but it's a cute doujin.

Do we have a perk to permanently divide parts of your skills and powers up between multiple hivemindes bodies? I want a "separate identities and bodies but still one person" kinda thing.

>>49376 I think You Like The New Look from Cuphead might be able to do that?

>>49373 nta, but aesthetically pleasing doesen't mean physically pleasiing.

>>49373 In hentais it's not a problem. In real life tho...

>>49376 These Assassin perks in Fate Legends Oasis of Fantasy could do it >Hashashin Training- 100 >The Hashashin are an ancient order, and in many cases the originators of, assassins. Killers in the dark, though the sheer variety the Hashashin can offer hardly limits them to the dark. This organisation trained many of the greatest assassins in both history and legend, with each leader of the group being a terrifying hunter in their own right. As part of the Hashashin, a ancestor of their line or even just trained by a former member of the group, you have their training as your own. You are a master of stealth, able to sneak past watchful guards and even lesser magical spells without any supernatural aid on your side, and brilliant at all kinds of acrobatics and feats of agility. You don’t just bound across rooftops and between city streets, you can dance around most warriors while slitting their throats, without even a scrape on your body. You’re trained in how to kill someone quietly and how to make it long and painful, as well as how to track down targets and how to escape a chase. >The final aspect to your training however, was the creation of a specialised technique for yourself, similar to the ones each leader of the Hashashin has made. Things like being able to create an illusory double of your opponents’ heart that when crushed, also crushes the real thing. Or being able to create an explosion inside the head of anyone you touch. Or even splitting alternate personalities within your own mind into their own bodies to form a strange hivemind. But your technique is far from mastered. You have basic usage of it but it will take likely years of experience for you to reach the level of one of the Hashashin masters. >Doctor of Death- 400 >The techniques of the Hashashin leaders are sourced through the modification of their own beings. >The body and even the mind or spirit becomes subject to all kinds of gruesome experiments in their pursuit of power and the ability to deal death on a higher level. Beyond just knowing one of their techniques, you are aware of the methods to create such techniques, though your studies have taught you the general tools and processes rather than the specific methods to the powers of the Hashashin. You have the skill and ability to mould the bodies, minds and spirits of other beings in order to grant special abilities. This can be as simple as grafting the limbs of demons to human bodies and having them work to as complex as separating out the alternate personalities within a madman’s head to allow him to summon them as separate beings in reality. >Your skills with the alteration of the form also extend to other uses, such as practical healing and medicine, brainwashing or therapy, even creating your own monsters instead of altering the bodies of existing beasts. Most bodies however, have a limit on what you can do with them. As impressive as what you can do is, a human body can rarely take more than one or two major alterations before it ceases to function properly. Perhaps in time you could discover how to extend those mortal limitations. This mags perk is not necessary, but it would probably also help. >Master of Puppets- 200 >Everyone is born with talent for something, your talent just happened to be making life. When it comes to magic involved in the creation of familiars, even the summoning of them, you’re miles beyond any of your peers. While you are not the best in the world with just this, your raw skill and power with magic still lacking compared to the greats, you’ll find anything in relation to the creation, alteration and maintenance of magical familiars, summons and living creations comes to you with the ease of breathing. You learn far faster, your products are of a vastly higher quality and come with far more efficiency than what your fellow magicians might create. It is even far more cost efficient for you to make them, as you take just a quarter of what others would expend to create the same things. >You have particular talent too in ensuring the loyalty of that you consider a familiar, whether this be designing the minds of creatures you create as easily as you design their bodies or creating lines of spell or rune magic to add to a summoning ritual to ensure much stronger bonds of servitude exist on what you summon. It also happens that you are quite good at creating and overlooking legal contracts, mostly from all the interaction with demons.

>>49364 gropes

>>49380 You know I kinda like the Hassans, even if Assassins are jokes. They each have a gimmick, if you don't play by the rule their gimmick won't work. Then there's Kage Bunshin Hassan.

>>49373 Never had a search for women using dildos on a porn site? Most of the time nowadays they're using "fantasy" dildos, the usual are normally horse and/or dog inspired ones, though I have seen a unique one once or twice that was a combination of the two mostly looking like a horse dong with a big knot at the base. Anyway they tend to vary in size as well, from average man sized to full blow stallion size. >>49374 It was more a discussions on dildo shapes and horses "inspired" one's were the consensus in that conversation. I say "then" because I haven't kept up with people I knew from College very well.

>>49383 So it's the shape but not the size kind of deal.

>>49384 In our conversation at the time yes, though some people do just like shoving huge things inside themselves.

>>49385 That's why wise people don't. It's like everything, you have to start with the small things before the big things. Now that's a quote.

>>49382 Oh I personally love them, they're essentially perfect servants to have in a grail war if used appropriately. Like pretty much all of them are loyal, you specifically get one suited to your personality, they all exceed at killing humans and there are very few masters who could really resist if one ambushed them and went for the kill. The Zabaniya are also generally pretty cool abilities. Also even outside the jump they're pretty great if you just want to have them assassinate people or even just have them spy or steal something from them. Also helps that they're mostly low cost to maintain as relatively weak spirits. Like there is a reason why in Apocrypha they were the meta for so long during the subspecies grail wars that the population of mages on the planet notably declined and that people had the opporotunity to develop counter measures for every one of the 19 Hassans. If I was actually in a HGW I'd most certainly would go with summoning a Hassan, rather than with bothering to try to gather a rare catalyst for a hero I may not be able to power appropriately, who is also potentially too difficult to control.

I feel like the trajectory Jumper's life has taken is very interesting because I didn't plan for it to get where it is exactly, and it's been very fruitful. Stein has ideas for how to treat Hollowing even if not the Undead Curse itself, but we need a specialized device to do it. He's brought in Carpenter Gen for collaboration purposes since he's basically the best engineer Death has. The thing is that both Stein and Carpenter are kinda hands off with actual construction since it requires very particular abilities. Instead, since I have Sorcery and the ability to manufacture Demon Tools, I'm basically their hands and tool kit here. I'm not brilliant, they're brilliant, but I'm learning a lot as they give me fine direction on what they need me to do, and standing around talking when something doesn't work quite right. >Can you adjust it so it compacts souls harder without making this piece bigger? >You're gonna wanna join these pieces with this type of weld. >How much does shape influence end result with Demon Tools? We might need to update our blueprints here. Hammer this, tweak that, can we use a different alloy for greater efficiency, let's test alloying titanite to see if that works better; I'd probably be having way more fun if I wasn't being plagued by nightmares. Also conducting research on Crystal Sorcery isn't great for my mental health either.

>>49387 The biggest problem is ironically their setting. They live in a world of big booms and where Assassins acting like Assassins is weird, or something they give up fast.

>>49389 personally I blame the masters not using them appropriately. If used properly an Assassin servant would never even meet another servant during the duration of the grail war, just staying hidden until the opportunity presents itself to strike at Masters. Hell it would be trivial to just tell the assassin to stay in spirit mode with presence concealment on at all times for the first week of the grail war, and just use the opportunity to scout for the masters and waiting for the number of servants to thin out, before starting a series of decisive strikes.

For those that do not use the time stop rule when leaving jumps, what does Jumper's exit look like to them?

>>49391 The world collapses. The closest reference would be similar to how the Dual Vector Foil from Three Body Problem works. Everything in the world collapses into a lower dimension.

>>49391 People are confused.

Are souls supposed to be smoke? Dark Souls. I've never thought about this before.

>>49391 He's in a bar with all his friends there to wish him off to the next jump and after a heartfelt speech about his time there and the bonds he's built up with each of them, he stops and looks at the crowd a lone tear falling from his eyes. Then he hits the soulja boy and disperses.

>>49391 Jumper dies and leaves behind a corpse. Including on the original mundane earth. Giving people closure and the opportunity to mourn, rather than deal with jumper spontaneously disappearing. Jumper does not know this.

>>49391 Bamf

>>49394 Heck back at Demon's Souls too. Suddenly, the mist doesn't look that dumb eh?

>>49396 Ah yes, nothing suspicious or weird about it at all.

>>49398 Colossal demon blanketing the world in fog seemed sufficiently spooky and reasonable. People had issue with it?

>>49396 Out of nowhere Truck-Kun appears. It doesn't matter where or when, it is always Truck-Kun.

>>49391 It's like that scene from fast & furious where Paul Walker's died so they had his character driving alongside Vic but then pull off to travel down a different path.

>>49400 I think anon was implying that the mist in demon souls was made up of souls.

>>49394 Souls, Blood Echoes, and Runes are all gaseous when you're absorbing them

>>49387 >>49389 >>49390 There are some really strong assassins though, like Sabu-chan for example. >Grandmaster ninja with a bunch of ninjutsu bullshit >able to summon hordes of snake monsters that can meaningfully fight Servants pretty much at will >Has OHKO poison that can guarantee a kill on masters with even a light graze >Can create a snake mecha that makes him invincible against anything without anti-divine abilities and strong enough to make one that does have to stay back and wait for him to get tired and distracted before attempting anything >Have divinity to let him ignore attempts by other masters to use Magecraft on him (if he feels like it) Shame he has next to no art though.

>>49403 Oh, yeah, fair. >>49404 Oh I don't mean that as much. I mean how souls came from the First Flame, and are always presented as being white and cloudy. I'm trying to figure out if that's the theming/aesthetics.

>>49401 Is Truck-kun a Cybertronian in Transformers, or does the giant robot just get killed by a regular truck?

>>49405 Oh I was specifically talking about Hassans, but yeah more straight forward assassins do exist. Like technically you can even summon Heracles as an Assassin if you want to.

Finally got idea how to make combo of Dupli-Kate power and Tech Jacket item. You just need to be Machina before this jump. As Machina you can absorb tech into yourself. then you do this to Tech Jacket to be always in state of wearing it and as it is part of you you can copy yourself with Dupli-Kate and every clone have access to abilities granted by Tech Jacket. Add super genius perk and you can keep on growing your array of abilities.

>>49400 What I meant was->>49403 Yeah that. Suddenly, it make sense as to why the mist is there, why it expand. And then there's the demons themselves. >>49404 One of them is white though.

>>49409 I feel like a tech jacket would just naturally dupli-kate alongside the user. A properly fitted tech jacket essentially enters a symbiotic relationship with the wearer, I'd the jacket empowering the user and the user empowering the jacket. Especially since the power already works on normal clothing.

>>49411 Yeah, this. Anon, you are overcomplicating this, just drown the universe in tech jackets.

>>49409 You could also just import the tech-jacket into your power armor in the Metroid jump if you take the upgraded (200cp) bio-armor option which integrates the power armor, unobtrusively, into your body. Or you could get the Take-Over Technology magic from the Fairy Tail jump which lets you absorb technology into yourself and then express it however you want. Both options should work with dupli-cate.

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>>49414 Yo

>>49411 >>49412 He's being retarded on purpose so he can talk about his current hyperfixation (machina)

>>49411 >I feel like a tech jacket would just naturally dupli-kate alongside the user. There is note in jump: Dupli-Kate: When producing clones will generate basic clothing for them, but will not duplicate weapons/items you are holding. So it wouldn't do it...

>>49414 Boobs.

How many of those "the more horrendous shit you do the faster you accelerate your science" perks do we have? I know Bleach and iirc one of the MtG jumps have one.

>>49419 I'm certain there's one in Library of Ruina.

>>49420 There is but its only for a specific branch of tech you choose with the perk, your own Singularity, that grows with the suffering you inflict while experimenting with it.

>>49364 Sightseeing, selfies and social media posting.

>>49421 Heretical knowledge transforms logic.

Amazonian Elves?

>>49333 Shouldn't necessarily be impossible, but I can't picture using them to be a good long-term idea given how badly Great One related stuff can fuck up an unprotected mind.

>>49424 Sure if you want. The Night Elves from WoW should qualify.

>>49425 My Jumper's mind is very well protected at this point, so that's a moot point. I'd be more worried about the long-term effects on reality from what is basically using blood magic and eldritch words to create magic wands...but like, already went full Darkness in Destiny and I'm gonna be visiting Enigma of Fear in about three or so jumps, so at this point it's just adding more fuel to the Transcendental Cha Cha Cha that I'm building up.

Night pals.

>>49428 Night fren.

>>49428 Have a good night WoL.

>>49428 ITS 1PM

>>49428 Dream well bud.

>>49428 Sleep well, World.

>>49368 >>49433

>>49434 >Watch Along Streams That certainly is a solution to integrating making jumps for non-vidya and my streaming. I'll think about it.

>>49427 >Cha Cha Cha Stop being so gay.

Favourite sci-fi faction techbase?

>>49437 Starcraft's Zerg for me.

Who would make for a good set of 4 knights I've corrupted as my 4 generals? I already have Link from Zelda as the "Miracles" guy.

>>49437 I'm very fond of SupCom. Fsst and reliable tech is ver ynice to have.

>>49437 I pick one from Halo at random. They are all pretty great. 1d4 = 1 >UNSC >Covenant >Forerunner >Precursor

>>49437 not sure about favorite, but I really I like the martian bio-tech in young justice, being capable of shapeshifting and telepathically controlled, not t mention stuff as consequence of that like self repair and natural reproduction..

Favorite Judeo-Christian coded jumps?

>>49444 >Judeo-Christian This term is a psyop

>>49444 > Judeo-Christian coded Please leave

>>49445 >>49446 Cool it with the anti-semitic remarks.

>>49440 >Link >not fatassed Zelda smh

>>49448 Women are for breeding. Not roles that require actual competence or martial prowess.

>>49448 I don't want to be horny anymore.

Provisional version of the Prisma Trio companion, they're intended to be older than the original loli anime versions but with how much older left vague so they could be in the Shirou/Godou's age group or fully grown depending on preference. >Prisma Trio (100): The King of Steel’s ‘younger’ sister is an interesting individual, granted the power to be a rival to Divine Ancestors by means that in another life would’ve spelled her end. However this is not the only way for her story to follow a brighter path, wielding an artifact powered by the Second Magic instead of the Third this Illya has landed within your group along with her best friend and ‘sister’. Illya herself and her friend Miyu possess the Kaleidosticks Ruby and Sapphire respectively, granting them powerful magical abilities through transformation into magical girls; her ‘sister’ Chloe on the other hand holds demi-servant powers matching those of the Counter Guardian EMIYA. These three girls have been fighting the good fight and using the power of friendship for several years now, getting older and stronger since they first started out as young girls such that they’re each more than a match for most servants with their Kaleidosticks and Chloe’s versatile selection of Noble Phantasms in Unlimited Blade Works. While Miyu is generally a rather good responsible girl Illya and Chloe are prone to causing trouble, with Illya’s suppressed desires coming out in embarrassing ways (often spurred on or outright dragged out by Ruby) and Chloe being ‘just a little’ perverse almost constantly. By using both her own and her friend’s Kaleidosticks at once Illya can attain a more powerful form, both her and Miyu have slightly lesser boosted forms they can reach side by side as well; though Illya has very conflicting feelings about Ruby’s influence on her Testament form.

>>49451 One day I will stop fucking up my name, but today is not that day.

>>49420 Nah, I'll pass

>>49451 >older its so ogre

>>49444 >Judeo-Christian coded What does this even mean?

>>49454 But anon, imagine being sexually harassed by older Chloe!

>>49449 >>49450 The duality of something.

>>49451 >Illya and Chloe comes with DD cups

>>49451 That companion trio will be acquired by me when this jump will be done. Thanks for your hard work.

>>49451 Would they have their set of cards to transform?

>>49455 Jew worship instead of Christ/God worship.

>>49460 The only card included would be the one Chloe has as part of her, though it would be possible to create Class Cards with the Drop-In Capstone and some research.

>>49462 But Christ was a Jew, until his crucifixion and resurrection fulfilled the covenants and was rejected by the other jews.

>>49464 Christ is the Son of God and he rejected the teachings of the Pharisaic Jews. 42Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”

Bit of an odd question, but-how strong is the Hunter's Pistol in Bloodborne? In the game itself it's basically a glorified peashooter that, with just the right timing, can stun people so you can rip them apart manually. In fanfics that I read it's a fucking hand cannon that can blow up a normal man's head in a single shot and easily put down lesser beasts all on its own. Is this a thing about fanfics hyping it up, or like-are Yharnamites just that fucking stronk that a certified hand cannon barely bothers most of them?

>>49466 However strong you want it to be.

>>49456 progress?

>>49437 I've always loved the styling of the Orokin in Warframe. For colossal degenerate asshats they sure had some aesthetic and architectural sense.

>>49456 </3

>>49466 https://youtube.com/watch?v=MD-ZX1Fv3N4

>>49469 So glad there's a catch all perk for their tech.

>>49444 I read that as Judo Christian and now i'm stuck with the image of Jesus judo throwing romans in my mind.

>>49468 To list the remaining work on this I've yet to do. Drop-In: >Two 100CP and One 400CP perks yet to be determined. >One already planned perk needs to be fluffed. Former Normal: >Two 400CP perks need to be fluffed and the capstone needs Fluffing and/or replacement. Local Mage: >Two 400CP perks need to be fluffed. >One halfway fluffed perk needs to be finished. Displaced Magus >One halfway fluffed perk needs to be finished. Authorities: >One 200CP Authority needs to be fluffed and/or replaced. Items: >An as of yet undetermined amount of low cost items need to be added. >Three Items of various pricepoints need to be fluffed. >One halfway fluffed item needs to be finished. Companions: >Three planned companions need to be fluffed. >An unknown number may be added to resolve any empty spaces in formatting. Drawbacks: >Five planned drawbacks need to be fluffed. >One half fluffed drawback needs to be finished. >An unknown number of 100/200 tier drawbacks need to be added. >Whether or not the ORT drawback stays needs to be determined, if so it may need further fluff. So yeah a fair bit of stuff to do but the jump has largely taken shape, expected to be a little shorter than the Alchemical Solutions in terms of page count due to the Authorities section being smaller than the dreaded Worm Powers Section.

>>49466 Iirc there's at least a three explanation, from game & story segregation, to your gun is using mercury bullets, to but wait every enemies drop those mercury bullets. It's complicated. >pic Funny how she stopped being a challenge when I decided to use the pizza cutter L2. Or magic.

>>49471 We can go further beyond. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGZsORizkHc >"Wait a minute we've only killed only few boss, why does the video almost e-" >"...oh. OH."

>>49474 Ah I missed one, one of the Former Normal perks in need of fluff also needs to be determined.

>>49466 How do you manage to be a secondary for every piece of media in existence simultaneously?

>>49466 See >>49471 It's approximately as powerful as a real life 1911. The creatures of Bloodborne are just that weak.

>>49474 wip?

>>49480 Perhaps, give me a bit to check over a few things first.

>>49439 Huh, and just as I was finished arguing with someone who was being confidently wrong about the lore of the Zerg. >>49439 >>49437 I like the Zerg evolution line, but I have to admit that the aesthetic of the Protoss tech calls to me more. I'm a real sucker for magic crystal tech.

>>49480 >>49481 I think this is ready to post an initial WIP. Possibly. I'm doing it anyway, all things subject to change.

>>49469 I used to rock the Orokin aesthetic everywhere, but then I dropped warframe for a few years and suddenly its some multiversal+ shit apparently

>>49437 Destiny >But what faction? All of them

>>49483 I came.

Any settings with spaceship scale restructuring/construction beams?

>>49483 Nice I’ll check it out in 30m

>>49487 Maybe Subnautica?

>>49487 Homeworld, SupCom, and Halo (Forerunners) all come to mind.

>>49483 Can you teach others what you create through mystery surpassing divinity?

>>49487 Supreme Commander

>>49491 Assuming the what you create is based in something others can learn yes, with the caveat that it will likely be an extremely powerful and advanced example of the foundation that many could have trouble fueling/learning. For instance if you created a spell under Magecraft that was comparable to the Divine it would be something other Magi could potentially learn but it would be about as difficult as you'd expect for them to do so and likely require a great degree of talent or some additional teaching perks.

>>49493 Great, I love to uplift others.

>>49493 Another thing, I gues it's because you are still considering the god option, but shouldn't them too have access to Authorities?

I've never really seen Star Wars (I have, but I was like 4 and forgot it) so I decided to watch the original trilogy. So far the Ep 4 is hilarious because Luke's aunt/uncle are like "Luke has too much of his father in him" do you mean the psychopath that murdered children?

>>49496 >I've never really seen Star Wars (I have, but I was like 4 and forgot it) so I decided to watch the original trilogy Welcome. Don't forget: the new trilogy is shit. >So far the Ep 4 is hilarious because Luke's aunt/uncle are like "Luke has too much of his father in him" do you mean the psychopath that murdered children? ...I haven't thought about it that way.

>>49496 >"Luke has too much of his father in him" I mean, they were taking that as a reason to be concerned.

>>49495 The God option will come with a suite of Authorities based on the Legend of the God you take the place/story of, it will not let you buy additional Authorities however as it's rather rare for gods to gain new Authorities outside of their legend and if you want to do so it'll be up to you to figure it out. The intended balance between the Campione and God option is thus. >Being a god costs a bit more by itself and includes a full suite of Authorities, but without unusual circumstances that's all you get. >Campione start out with fewer/more limited Authorities but can gain more and invest CP into having defeated multiple gods in their background for a better starting point.

>>49496 You're going to see a few things that make very little sense after watching Ep 1-3. Lucas retconed a lot from his origanl ideas for the backstory. Still infinitely better than what Disney shat out though.

>>49455 they dont know he became Vader, as far as they knew Anakin became a Jedi and ended up getting killed.

>>49498 The aunt seemed happy about it

>>49499 Ok, thanks, some more questions Isn't sublimation of wishcraft just worse lesser grail vessel for more CP? Can I use Heart of a blackened Grail for the CP and empowerment of servants without the corruption?

>>49499 time to start a religion.

>>49495 >>49503 >Isn't sublimation of wishcraft just worse lesser grail vessel for more CP? In the short term Sublimation of Wishcraft is far better, as it isn't limited by what's possible under Magecraft or other magic systems you have access to. Eventually with access to enough different magic systems Lesser Grail Vessel could become superior though, even if you add in the Second Magic here it probably still wouldn't match up to Sublimation of Wishcraft within just this jump; partly due to how hilariously bad of an idea it is to try to brute force the Kaleidoscope even if you have the technical requirements to do so. If Illya's failed attempt to summon Berserker was an attempt to brute force the Second Magic it would likely have been a disaster more akin to Odysseus trying to fuck around with it than just not working as an example. >Can I use Heart of a blackened Grail for the CP and empowerment of servants without the corruption? CP? Also the corruption is required, though it isn't not automatically anywhere near as bad as what corrupted Sakura did to her Servants. To use the included Saber Alter as an example Alter doesn't always and automatically mean EVIL but she will be harsher and perhaps a bit edgy at least.

>>49505 Well there's an extra reply link. . .

>>49504 That. . . may or may not work, I don't think it's clear if a god's powers would change based on their 'Story' without returning to their Legend (dying). Though Mordred did transition into a God of Steel over the years and it's not clear if/how often he died during that process.

>>49505 Sorry had a brainfart, meant the infinite mana. Anyway shame, I don't really like brainwashing innocent servants, maybe I will take it and experiment on using it during the summoning ritual to directly summon altered servants rather than normal to still alter.

>>49508 >Sorry had a brainfart, meant the infinite mana. Ah, well you can definitely use the infinite mana to help support more servants but see notes. >Heart of a Blackened Grail and Link to the Hero’s Throne do have considerable synergy however it won’t be enough to keep an unlimited amount of Servants active, endless mana isn’t infinite mana so bandwidth will become a limit at some point. Subsuming them in Grail Mud would be an answer to this but doing this may result in the loss or alteration of some of their abilities, often any losses will be more than made up for with the unlimited mana but not always and the cost is still present even when worth it. Such tradeoffs also apply for non-Servants fed to the Grail Mud through that Authority, so it might not actually be a good idea to drown all your allies in All the World’s Evils just to give them more power.

>>49479 >that weak You mean that strong?

>>49484 Warframe has been powermaxxing since Duviri when it was revealed that the Tenno are basically multiversal Daemon Princes and that the only ones who are even remotely relevant to the conflict in Warframe on a cosmic scale are them and the Man in the Wall. The Tenno are weaker when manifested in physical reality but they're also completely immortal since killing them just forces them to reform in the Void over the course of a few years or decades. And harming one at all requires someone to forge a specialized weapon that is specifically designed to interfere with the Void and kill the Tenno. Otherwise they are literally invincible and can simply reform instantly from any damage done to them. Warframe is like the complete inverse of your standard MMO where instead of the threats in the setting scaling arbitrarily to surpass whatever came before them it's just the setting furiously masturbating the Tenno while the threats keep having to jump through increasingly ridiculous hoops just to be able to even harm one.

>>49511 >Duviri See, I jumped ship before railjack released and the state of that shit only made me stay further away

>>49511 Poor Red.

>>49509 >>49508 >maybe I will take it and experiment on using it during the summoning ritual to directly summon altered servants rather than normal to still alter. Also yeah that would be possible, but you'd need to use the MUD as a catalyst during the summon so what's causing them to be summoned as Alters is already your Mud, as otherwise you'd end up making them. . . double Alter(?) when adding them to your Mud; as dumb as that might sound.

>>49466 Depending on Bloodtinge investment it's actually one of the strongest guns in the game, so the power is less about bullet velocity and more about the effects of the blood contained within. There's only two guns that actually compete for damage iirc; one requires an incredible amount of Bloodtinge to overcome as it has better scaling but worse base (Evelyn) while the other uses twice as much ammo (Repeating Pistol). How strong these guns would realistically be is pretty confusing given game representation, but I don't think the physical forces involved are that serious compared to what is actually being delivered.

>>49512 >>49513 I'm just waiting for the moment where the Tenno reveals that actually they can just control all the Warframes or Vessels or whatever at the same time. Like casually just animate an entire army of them by themselves to fight the Sentients in Tau while they're still in the Sol system or something. I know that shit's coming. It's the next logical step.

>>49509 Thank you. Sorry for bothering, but I have another question, would Ride of the Valkyriie work retroactively to let you summon the Valkyrie you killed as an Einherjar?

Do you think someone skilled with Ninshu and Chakra Absorption could permanently drain people of their chakra? Like kinda the reverse of what the Sage did when he spread around chakra? I was thinking of having my jumper take Ninshu and Chakra Transference to buff people's reserves who need it, but that made me think if the reverse would be possible.

>>49519 The Sage didn't spread chakra, he simply taught people how to use it. He basically invented what became modern Ninjutsu by creating a system which allows normies to do what his Rinnegan does naturally.

>>49517 >>49513 >>49511 I want the game to at some point have a Dissidia style cutscene where you just see all the Warframes rip and tear their way through the the armies of Tau and the Wall. Like, just straight up hire the animation directors from the Dissidia games. It would be absolute peak.

>>49518 Yes(ish), you could turn 'most' prior kills into Einherjar if you went back to the site of their death or had something to serve as a sympathetic link; but not actually in this case. If you want to turn a God (or other being that either revives or returns to something like a God's Legend) you'd need to get them at the time of the kill, that Valkyrie has already returned to her Legend so you'd need her to Descend again for the chance.

>>49511 >>49513 >>49517 At this point, I accept my fate. The main background is just gonna be Tenno. >he Tenno are weaker when manifested in physical reality but they're also completely immortal since killing them just forces them to reform in the Void over the course of a few years or decades. Though I'd like a reminder on where this is from, since the closest I remember is Conceptual Embodiment where a dead person just brings themselves back.

>>49518 >>49522 This answer is also relevant to Servants who return to the Throne of Heroes.

>>49521 We already have something sort of similar with the various cutscenes and Warframe/Prime trailers where we see even just a handful of Warframes, even just fucking three of them, casually annihilate a planetary siege army during the War In Heaven. Volt canonically faster than Gauss by the way. Which is absolutely fucking hilarious. >>49524 It's the entire premise behind The New War. Under normal circumstances, destroying the Tenno's physical body simply makes them reform it near-instantly, albeit it's disorienting and makes them suffer from Transference Interference for a while as they readjust to physical reality. But at one point Ballas gives you the schematics to build the Paracesis, ostensibly as an anti-Sentient weapon, but in reality it's revealed to be a weapon that interferes with the Void and is able to permanently "kill" and incapacitate the Tenno by severing their link to the Void. Ballas tricks and impales you with it during the events of The New War and he outright states that "You can't kill the Devil, but you can send it back to Hell." And later reveals that he knew the Tenno would simply reform in the Void and come back eventually since they are all by all metrics totally immortal but he overestimated how long it would take and they showed back up before he could execute his plan to blow up the solar system. Also yeah, at this point it's just Tenno. Maybe do the perks based on the Focus Schools or something.

>>49502 Nothing to do with the previous conversation but this image reminded me of your jumper, especially with the Undertale-eque aesthetic its' got.

>>49520 no, he explicitly used Ninshu to share his chakra with everyone else to allow people to connect with one another. Kaguya's rampage as the Ten Tails was in part motivated to reclaim the chakra from the everyone, since only she was supposed to have all chakra on earth.

testing if moe let's me post again.

>>49527 What's this supposed to be?

>>49530 NTA but I'm relatively certain Shota-Kun is about to be ~ara ara~'d.

>>49530 A timid shota.

>>49483 Got to justify a custom BB authority, against my better judgement.

>>49496 The thing you'll eventually learn about Star Wars as you watch and learn more about it is that Lucas is an absolute hack who faceplanted into the greatest sci-fi franchise in the world. For example, the Force itself was originally hippie shit that was powered by jizz crystals that every Whill (the precursor to the Jedi) carried and was a cast-from-MP style mana system. He lifted like 80% of its mechanics from a new age spiritual movement book he read once. He originally intended for Obi-Wan to be a hippie wizard who was running out of juice because Darth Vadar stole his jizz crystal so he couldn't replenish his vibes anymore. Perhaps the single greatest example of Lucas's intentions involves the dark side. Later authors and stories in the franchise would recontextualize the dark side as being vastly more complex than anything Lucas envisioned. To him, the dark side was literally just the designated bad guy power and that's it. There was no complexity: Force good, dark side bad. He wanted to tell a Tolkienian tale of absolute good vs. absolute evil with no grey to be found anywhere and that's what he tried to stick with. Also he killed off Obi-Wan because he realized halfway through the script that he was basically just standing around cheerleading Luke during the Battle of Endor. During which Luke didn't use the Force but rather, and I quote, "C3P0's superior robotic brain" to perform the shot that destroyed the Death Star. And also after killing Obi-Wan he realized again halfway through the script that he needed Luke to actually become a Jedi but there wasn't anybody to teach him so he just invented and inserted Yoda into the movie specifically to teach him. And then killed him off too. At the time, Lucas hadn't even come up with a name for Yoda's species and thought that where he came from was irrelevant. Also, fun fact: in Lucas's original script, the Force and the dark side both had consciousness and intent. They deliberately used people, including the proto-Jedi and Sith, as pawns in a cosmic chess game to overcome the other. The movie was going to be about the Force finally destroying the dark side once and for all, putting an end to the ancient conflict that had caused countless wars and trillions of lives. And also that in Lucas's scrapped plans for his own sequel trilogy, it was going to be revealed that the Whills existed and they were in charge of doing this. And that they were the ones who sent the ghost of Qui-Gonn Jinn to Yoda to teach him how to become a Force ghost specifically so that the Jedi Order would continue to exist even if they were all wiped out. So that they wouldn't run out of pawns in their endless war against the dark side. So yeah, it turns out that in Lucas's original vision Kreia was 100% absolutely correct about everything.

>>49526 >where we see even just a handful of Warframes, even just fucking three of them, casually annihilate a planetary siege army during the War In Heaven. Kinda insane that with all that power the Orokin went and designed over fifty of the bastards (not counting Caliban, Qorvax, Cyte-09, Kullervo, and Temple. Though one should count Xaku as three to make up for it.)

>>49483 How does universal vessel turning into a spaceship handle the tech you’d expect from such a thing?

>>49535 Most of that stuff you're saying just makes sense, though. Why does it matter where Yoda's from for the story? The force is already hippie shit. It blends sci-fi with magic and religion li

>>49538 >>49535 -like tons of new age cults

>>49538 nta, but worth noting that Star Wars fans are notably the worst in their relationship to the source material.

>>49537 Generally the Universal Vessel is a mixture of modern technology and magic, with the latter being the source of it's ability to travel through space unless/until you feed it a spacecraft via summoning it through such a ship. In the (fairly likely) event that you got it from a Hindu god or the like it might be more on the magitech side to start but either way the space flight capabilities will start out fairly limited and more involve the fact that the void of space isn't a sufficiently hostile environment for the divine vessel's airship configuration(s) to have any real difficulty carrying you through.

>>49483 Damn its gonna be a struggle not to spend everything on authorities there’s some good shit here.

>>49535 >The thing you'll eventually learn about Star Wars as you watch and learn more about it is that Lucas is an absolute hack who faceplanted into the greatest sci-fi franchise in the world. I mean, its real hard to cock up the Hero's Journey. As long as you follow the formula at least semi-competently and keep things consistent, you're bound to have a solid story on your hands. Its also partly why so many modern stories and movie suck, because post-modernist writers reject the Hero's Journey and the Monomyth, so their stories fall flat

>>49536 The Orokin were incredibly arrogant and though that their highly traumatized godlike child slaves and the supremely powerful barely-contained murder machines they made would never rebel against them.

>>49526 >New War Oooookay, I see what you're getting at. That moment is honestly contested; it's unsure whether we're actually killed, or if Ballas just yeets us into the Void because it's the best way to get rid of us since the Tenno can't BE killed in the normal sense. You're right in that the Tenno in Operator form, upon getting 'killed', simply reforms in the Warframe itself. But it's also unsure whether you're actually being 'killed' or if you're just turning into energy and swoosing back into the Warframe. Mainly because the Tenno are fucking freaks of nature that are simultaneously both corporeal and energy, and it's unsure exactly where in between those two things we actually are. The concept of Eternalism also throws a massive fucking wrench into things, because by that idea, we're both dead and alive at the exact same time. So say someone takes a Kuva Nukor and sandblasts your upper body until there's nothing left. Surprise! Eternalism. We're dead, but we're alive at the same time, and the energy part of us just pulls it back. So it's really difficult to say whether a Tenno is actually killed, or whether Eternalism just no-sells it because you pulled a reverse uno card and they never killed you at all. It's why Ballas tossed you in the Void to begin with. You don't have to worry about such a conundrum if you flip the board and ragequit the game in its entirety, and since the Void itself is very finicky when it comes to Time (all while he schlorped up the Lotus' power with his creepy kiss), he just shunted you to the Zariman where your official status is "No Longer My Problem Anymore". I'm not questioning the immortality of the Tenno, far from it. I am contesting the "can die infinitely and just reform" bit, because the real problem is whether they're actually dying at ALL and not just using Eternalism to eat the game pieces the moment you stop looking.

>>49543 >because post-modernist writers reject the Hero's Journey and the Monomyth Honestly it's less this and the fact that they fail to actually replace it with anything. You can write a good story that doesn't follow the conventions of the Hero's Journey but it requires a substantial knowledge of the medium itself. Which post-modern writers simply don't have. Most of these guys are so incompetent and unthinking it's impressive that they remember how to breathe so it's unsurprising that they want to subvert the Hero's Journey and then fail miserably due to an abject lack of talent and comprehension.

>>49496 Now to be fair his father was literally a well known and respected war hero and the fact that he became vader isnt widely known. Also killing children is a jedi trait. They do it so often. Usually because they had a vision of them killing children.

Oh. I just realized what I'm doing in Bloodborne. What do you get when you take Blood Gems, Caryll Runes, comprehensive Insight and experience with the eldritch and their incredible powers, and a bunch of clockwork (from Dark Souls 2) as both a framework and a control mechanism? Should I just make this a fused jump with Youjo Senki and go all-in on just jumping a bootleg of A Young Girl's Weaponization Of The Mythos? I kinda want to now that I realize what I'd accidentally been building up to here.

>>49546 Remember that they get paid 70k a year and they think its not enough.

Just go to a jump that takes place in the early 70s and make your own vision of Star Wars. You can even pick and choose stuff from later movies, Disney and Legends canon to add and make a more coherent story if you want.

>>49551 >Chris and Jack Fun coincidence but i've been watching alot of their stuff recently, fun vids.

>>49545 >I'm not questioning the immortality of the Tenno, far from it. I am contesting the "can die infinitely and just reform" bit, because the real problem is whether they're actually dying at ALL and not just using Eternalism to eat the game pieces the moment you stop looking. Isn't that arguably even more bullshit than them just being super immortal, though?

It's amazing how none of this means anything to me despite playing the game a shit ton back in 2015/16

>>49553 It is.

>>49545 I mean, he shoved a Void-infused sword as tall as a Warframe straight through the torso of like a 13 year old and then kicked their lifeless body off the side. I'm pretty sure they were dead whether or not they ended up the Void afterwards. We also know that Tenno can traverse into the Void at will and that their souls are held in stasis in the Void at least partially. So the destruction of their body means effectively nothing to them. And also there's the whole trippy sequence with the Man in the Wall where he seems to be killing off/collapsing all of our potential Eternalism into one definitive version that exists across all of space, time, and possibility. Which may be why we have the whole nonlinear temporal dimensional shit going on. But that may just be fanon, although I vaguely recall Baro mentioning something about it.

>>49545 Whatshisname the autistic Tenno was never in the void, he still managed to skip out on dying by turning into an energy wave and had to actively participate in hunting down and killing his many disparate parts to finally die.

What are some interesting animals to base a Jumper around?

>>49543 >>49546 This "hero's journey" shit is so overrated. Most stories aren't even the hero's journey. I don't know if they ever were.

>>49558 Horse, bull, or dog.

>>49551 Look the more I read and look into star wars the more I realize the jedi are the cause of basically ALL the problems. You get a vision from the force that says STAY IN BALANCE, DONT USE ONE SIDE ONLY, they take this to mean they need to kill the darkside. A student gets a vision about flaming swords? They kick him out of the order and try to kill him, then steal his idea for flaming swords and use it themselves. The planet starts to experience an apocalypse because you are only using the light side and its throwing things out of balance? That obviously means we need to use the lightside harder and kill any darkside users. 12 of your order decide they may want to look into this darkside stuff that makes up half of your religion? Kick them out and put them on a broken ship to starve in space then go shocked pikachu when they come back with an army and wage a hundred year war on you. You finally killed off all but 2 darksiders? Hooray that means the force is almost in balance, obviously this miracle jesus child meant to bring balance to the force will kill ALL the remaining darkaiders bringing the balance to 0/100. Perfect balance!

>>49558 Tardigrade those fuckers are even harder to kill than roaches.

>>49558 Im a fan of being a snake jumper but Im kinda tempted to go to spider isekai as a giant worm.

>>49483 Lesser Key feels more like an item or authority tbh. Either way a mention of the book being bound to your soul would make me happy. Got a pic in mind for Lem/The Lemegeton?

>>49552 yeah I've been watching their stuff for years and happy that they finally got big enough to make videos more regularly. As far as sketch videos go they're very solid for modern youtube.

>>49556 >I mean, he shoved a Void-infused sword as tall as a Warframe straight through the torso of like a 13 year old and then kicked their lifeless body off the side. I'm pretty sure they were dead whether or not they ended up the Void afterwards. Ah, but that's just it. Tenno are part energy and part corporeal, and could easily be fully both thanks to Eternalism. A sword as tall as a Warframe would hurt, yes. But you'll also note all this did was leave them in some static-y mess that Ballas immediately kicked into the Void Portal. It may not have killed us so much as ran interference on our Transference powers long enough for the aforementioned kicking. >We also know that Tenno can traverse into the Void at will and that their souls are held in stasis in the Void at least partially. If they could traverse into the Void at will, Ballas' whole plot wouldn't have worked as we could just waddle back out within moments. But one could also argue that he just traded one problem for another as the Drifter, our older parallel timeline version, just kind of appeared pretty quickly and with a new set of Void powers to boot. One version of ourselves got shunted, so the next one just came right in. >And also there's the whole trippy sequence with the Man in the Wall where he seems to be killing off/collapsing all of our potential Eternalism into one definitive version that exists across all of space, time, and possibility. The Man in the Wall is also a dick who really loves uniqueness; so he killed every version except you and the Drifter just to make you more unique. If anything, you should be asking why you're the one that survived as it was the Drifter who actually made the deal, then got cucked out of their powers and dumped into the Void where their madness created Duviri. All while you got to exit the Zariman with said shiny Void powers. What I'm trying to say is that I will go insane during this rework and am sorely tempted to find entheogens to imbibe while I do it. >>49557 Pretty much, Rell just leaned more on the energy part rather than the corporeal part. But that's the thing about the Void: It draws on all of you and can react in very fucked up ways. Albrecht learned that the hard way, considering it was his negative aspects that created the Man in the Wall. So yeah, a normal-ass person could end up spawning a metaphorical Void God so much more powerful than you completely by accident.

>>49483 I'll be real I'm just gonna be spending a lot of time figuring out subordinate god authorities for my favourite servants.

>>49565 The image I have in mind for her would be similar to Pram from Nippon Ichi without the black sclera but she's open to interpretation beyond looking like a young woman with some potentially unnatural features. The book is bound to you, I'll see about mentioning that explicitly but the text on that page is rather tight so it may end up in the notes.

>>49549 >Pic I don't understand what you're getting at

>>49568 Waifu authorities are good authorities.

>>49569 >without the black sclera But that’s the best part.

>>49573 Fair, but a bit unsubtle which her unnatural traits are meant to be.

>>49567 option to be like wall-kun?

>>49567 >spoiler Where's that implied or revealed?

>>49533 I feel like an authority of being the earth mother goddess is as easy as getting the 600 custom perk.

>>49483 >grail mud >Aurea Poculum >lesser key >Gate of Babylon for greed or something idk peak demon lord build

Heaven help me, but I'm starting to get interested in fate after reading a crossover. But I have no idea how to get started. Which is probably for the best that franchise is fucking cursed. Even if some of it's elements appear to be rather fascinating.

>>49580 Read the Stay Night LN. If not watch then watch the adaptations. Then watch Zero. From that point on read/watch whatever. Kara no Kyoukai is a good standalone set of movies, Tsukihime is considered a classic VN for a reason, the FGO and Apocrypha anime are alright. Just whatever you do, do not play FGO.

>>49580 That's one of the many ways Nasu gets into your head anon, you read some trashy but fun fanfic and suddenly there's some cool thing you want to know the background for. Then you're watching Fate anime, reading the Fate Wiki, watching Fate lore videos, looking into Fate LNS, and heaven help you considering playing Fate/Grand Order.

>>49581 >LN This anon meant VN, also note that Zero is an alt universe retelling of the events of the holy grail war and aren't canon to the version of Artoria who turns up in F/SN and most other works she's in.

>>49559 The Epic of Gilgamesh, the original Star Wars trilogy, The Odyssey, Wheel of Time, Eragon, and basically any and every story that starts with "main character's home gets destroyed/threatened and he has to leave"

>>49585 Which is very far from most stories or even most good stories.

>>49580 well the proper start would be to play the Fate Stay Night Visual Novel(which funnily enough finally got an official translation less than a year ago), but if you're not ready for the Time Investment the Fate Stay Night Unlimited Blade Work anime is an okay start as well, though it kinda messes up by being only the second of the three routes in the visual novel. After that you could watch the Heaven's feel movie trilogy(which represents the third route), though there is an anime for the first route it sucks and is better avoided. After that the most common to watch would be the Fate Zero Anime, which is a prequel to Fate Stay Night based on 4 light novels(the translation for those is fanmade and kinda bad though). After that the most popular would be the Fate Grand Order mobile game, which you should avoid.

>>49586 The Princess Bride

>>49583 >>49580 Yeah my bad, meant VN. But yeah that’s why I said Zero after Stay Night. Too many retards push it first as "chronologically correct" when it’s very different to most Fate stuff, and also non canon. And also ruins Arturia's characterisation. Not saying Zero is bad, it’s pretty good if you look at it independently, just do not start with it or treat it as a true prequel.

>>49559 >t. illiterate retard with zero tastes who doesn't like to read.

>>49590 He enjoys one piece, we knew this already

>>49591 Which is wild, because One Piece is also The Hero's Journey, just like Journey To The West

>>49587 >>49582 >>49581 >>49589 Dammit. Now I may actually watch some of it. There's just so many fucking questions. What the hell is the clocktower? What the fuck is the root? Why aren't the magics magics. The grail system makes no fucking sense. I see the hints of an interesting and intricate world and it calls to me.

>>49590 I'm right, though

>40k - Imperium Nihilus >Join the Ordo Scriptorum >Wizarding World's "Charta Opus Coepi" perk activates Would I be promoted or executed?

>>49594 No, you're not. You just have perennially shit taste and are actively going out of your way to act like a whiny gay contrarian and then throw a fit whenever people call you a whiny gay contrarian

>>49593 >I see the hints of an interesting and intricate world and it calls to me.

>>49581 >>49582 >>49587 I don't play FGO because their assistance is so bad I never managed to recover my account after losing my previous phone. I'm a bit sad as we were just before one of my favorite welfare but at least now I'm free.

>>49576 Probably not, but a drawback will be that you spawned one who's deeply interested in you. This is not a good thing. >>49577 The Requiem Words, found in the Necralisk where you find Loid. It details Albrecht's void experiments, and how his trips made him see a doppleganger, and a wall connected to his skull via scintillated vapors and calling him 'Little Bengel', something nobody called him for centuries. Since then, the Man in the Wall has taken quite the personal interest in Albrecht, chasing that fucker even through time itself. Albrecht is also the only one who ever truly saw him before we came around, and he's genuinely unsure if it was himself who escaped the Void of if he was the doppleganger, hence refusing Continuity. Granted, the nature of time in the Void is... wonky, so while it's rather implied it hasn't been truly confirmed.

>>49596 How am I throwing a fit? You're the one freaking out throwing around swear words

>>49593 >What the hell is the clocktower? It's technically a school and the closest the magi have to a government >The root It's the place where everything comes from >Why aren't the magics magics Because Solomon is a cunt that cucked everyone and the fake magic they invented to try to cling onto the past needs to for everyone to get their proper reality warping magics back >The grail system The original purpose of the Grail was to gather a bunch of energy by sacrificing powerful beings to punch a hole to the root. The wish thing was just a way to get people willing to participate in the fight. I've personally always thought the whole thing was meant to specifically fuck over people, since every Grail War we see directly screws over literally everyone who fights in them

>>49601 Pattern recognition. I'm just getting ahead of where this is inevitably going to go based on your previous posting history.

>>49601 NTA but see >>49559

>>49593 worth noting that a lot of that stuff is barely addressed in Fate. Fate is just one branch of the larger Nasuverse(and the one that popped of the most because of the mobile game, so it gets all the love), but stuff like Magic and the Clocktower is more the focus in the Witch on the Holy Night Visual Novel and the Case Files of Lord El Melloi Light Novels(this is a spin-off from the Fate Zero light novels, but its ongoing and has like 24 volumes at this point)

>>49604 I'm just expressing my opinion. Apparently that's grounds for people to freak out at me.

>>49606 Imagine crying about swear words on 8chan, holy fuck

>>49593 >What the hell is the clocktower? The headquarters and main magic school, it is literally in a big clocktower in London. >What the fuck is the root? The Source of all things, the Akashic Records, the Ultimate Plot Device, etc. >Why aren't the magics magics. Magic is divided into two(ish) parts, Magecraft which makes sense obeying largely consistent rules and True Magic which cheats like hell and often fucks over those trying to learn or mess with it. >The grail system makes no fucking sense. It was originally intended to let Illya's family regain their access to the Third True Magic, but things got increasingly weird with all the people involved in setting it up. Turning into a competition in which their goal was one of the possible wishes one could make for winning the ritualized combat of the Grail War. >I see the hints of an interesting and intricate world and it calls to me. It's a trap, but an at times fun one to fall into.

>>49606 Because your opinion is both garbage, and one founded in ignorance and a disdain for the entire cultural and literary tradition of all Indo-European cultures dating all the way back to the fucking Epic of Gilgamesh.

>>49579 Strange chimp-like kobold.

>>49609 Most famous myths I've heard about don't follow the hero's journey. Heracles becomes a god, he doesn't go back to Heracles village. Beowulf dies. Achilles dies. Actually, they pretty much all die.

>>49610 shrimp*

>>49609 There is a a certain type of person that just makes you think "Yeah, I was meant to live in a castle far away from these people and visit them with an armed escort to take 10% of their grain as a tax"

>>49612 I'm no phrenologist, but that skull shape obviously denotes descent from chimpanzees. I new species perhaps, entire colonies undiscovered in the wilderness.

Lets say Jumper dies, but a companion has access to a time machine. Can the companion go back in time to prevent the death, or will the jump end before that? Would it make any difference if Jumper was saved via a stable time loop?

>>49611 Dying and coming home in a casket counts as returning home changed

>>49615 Up to you to decide.

>>49611 Funny you should mention the Iliad, wanna talk about the Odyssey and what that's about?

>>49614 shrimp

>>49618 My point is just that they don't all follow the same template. It's just people being selective with what they choose. Apparently even modern scholars don't all agree with the concept anymore

>>49600 The implications and statements made from both the Cavia and Albrecht himself isn't so much that The Indifference came from him, so much as he was such a unique mind, that it wanted his uniqueness for itself so it essentially took him in and wore him to savor his experience for itself. Albrecht understood enough of this that his Cavia experiments were solely to try and force it to absorb regular animals and render it a non-threat by doing so, but it was never remotely interested and simply ignored or killed all the Cavia sent in no matter the number of experiments conducted. He later realizes that this was because the /only/ thing the Indifference cares about is uniqueness because its own nature is inherently bland and devoid of sensation and animals were far too plain and mundane to interest it. This is why he refused to use Kalymos in the tests despite his attachment to her and her own intelligence being enough that she probably would have drawn its attention and instead resorted to the Cervulites, alongside an unnamed Norg - who DID draw its notice unlike the others and it specifically granted them intelligence because of it. Albrecht was too busy treating the Indifference like the Warp, that it's a mirror that simply spits back out what you give it, when it /is/ the Void and has its own agency and will; it craves uniqueness entirely on its own and is fully capable of choosing or deciding what it's interested in and what it isn't. Even if you sent in the most purehearted and good-natured person imaginable into the Void, the Indifference wouod not have been changed at all and would simply use their face and mannerisms to ruin the lives of all that person loves. It's much closer to the Demon from Dungeon Meshi than anything else, except instead of being a glutton who craves the sensation of eating (despite not needing to at all), its specific form of hedonistic indulgence is instead wanting the uniqueness of everything that exists in reality because its own nature is too dull to keep it entertained.

>>49615 by the rules the companion would probably return to their world the moment you died and would have no chance to resurrect you But who cares about that, just go with what is interesting.

>>49593 >What the hell is the clocktower? One of the three main bodies of Magus society. Basically the most plot relevant one due to how prominent it is in most Nasuverse works. >What the fuck is the root? Pretty much everything and anything in the nasuverse. All comes from it and all shall return. >Why aren't the magics magics. Because Gilgamesh was an asshole and made the gods start to fuck off. What modern Magus use is a bootleg made by Solomon to compensate for the gods fucking off >The grail system makes no fucking sense. It's just mages hijacking the world's immune system for a death battle that is a scam to punch a hole in the fabric of reality to get to the root. >>49602 >I've personally always thought the whole thing was meant to specifically fuck over people, since every Grail War we see directly screws over literally everyone who fights in them Well the goal 99% of the time is for the three families of Fuyuki to get enough mana to get to the root and Angry mango doesn't really help things either. But Apocrypha and FGO had wars where the wishes of people not in the scam get granted as intended.

>>49620 I like how you cry about people being selective with what they choose, then you selectively ignore what the anons here are saying.

>>49624 I don't think I'm being selective about what they say. It kinda just feels like when I bring up my point they act like producing more examples proves theirs, but it doesn't.

>>49483 idk if I’m being stupid but what does this last line of lesser key mean? Is it a leftover of a rewrite or something? >The book is in the room because that’s where you left her, not for any other sordid reason as she very clearly explained several times or is it mean to be the book is in YOUR room? In witch case you may want to say “the book is often in your room” because it flows a bit better.

>>49567 >If they could traverse into the Void at will Then what's Void Mode, hm?

>>49625 Lets go back to the posts that brought out your mental deficiency >Modern writers are bad because they ignore the hero's journey >Nah they're bad because they don't replace it with anything else In came you <Hero's journey is complete shit and few - if any - stories exist in this format <Actually all those examples you gave isn't enough, you need to list EVERY SINGLE ONE EVER also they're all complete dogpiss lmfao Then things devolve into you crying about people calling you retarded

>>49626 Her real body (the book) is sitting in the room watching while you bond with the demons/their hosts/any other waifus, she is making excuses for this that don't label her as a pervert.

>>49611 >Heracles becomes a god, Which is him returning to this divine roots and ascends to Olympus to live amongst his father as a God, and is counted as homecoming for the Hero's journey >Actually, they pretty much all die. The Odyssey is the prototypical Hero's Journy, complete with the journey to the underworld. So is the Argonautica, as are the stories of Perseus and Theseus. And even for the Iliad Agamemnon gets what he wants and returns home with his wife after his harrowing journey >Beowulf No, but the Volsung Saga is (though some would argue that Beowulf underwent the full journey early when he returned from killing Grendel's Mother), as is the story of Robin Hood. Furthermore, any "king under the mountain" stories are basically a hero's journey suspended in the "leaving the underworld" part and unfinished, making King Arthurand Fionn mac Cumhaill hero's journies. Also, if you wanna get Biblical as well, both the stories of Abraham and Moses are also considered prototypical Hero's Journies. And that's not getting into all the dozens of different stories based off of or derived from these works And its not restricted to Western writing either. The Mahabarata is arguably Arjuna's Hero's Journey, The Jouney To The West pulls double duty as a hero's journey for both Sun Wukong and Tripitaka, and even Susanoo underwent his own Hero's Journey when he was banished from the heavens. Its called "The Monomyth" for a reason.

>I have been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh. >I have been called a hundred names and will be called a thousand more before the world goes dim and cold. >I am hero.

>>49483 Looks great, although it has been many years since I read it, so I admit I don’t remember a lot. Can we fuse the pre-made authorities? I vaguely remember that one omake where Bewitching qualities, divine manifestations and one other from I think it was Hades fused in such a way that anyone Shirou killed got revived as a waif in love with him. Worse than actually getting the authorities, but far funnier. Also may I suggest a toggle for taking Shirou’s place, and the classic toggle for keeping your story in their word intact if one has gone to a Fate/ jump before, like even if it would not be compatible with the Stay Night/Zero jumps, one could still have used Legends of Avalon and be someone who Shirou recognizes as one of Artoria’s knights, or empire of antiquity to be an Argonaut/Heracles friend, quite a bit of potential in that. Lastly, a purely personal request, but if you are still accepting them for waifus, may I request a Melusine? Like, on a similar vein to the Barghest you put in, just straight up canon Melusine, saw Jumper during the brief moments the worlds were connected and decided to fly in to claim him as her lover. I offer some Melusine pics for your consideration.

Do you think a working steampunk battlemech would be a suitably impressive gift to give to a pair of royals getting married?

>>49631 >king under the mountain Is that like a common thing?

>>49631 No thats not enough all these stories from across historical periods and cultures isn't enough examples and also they're not good at all - trust me, I am a one piece fan, I can tell what is actually a good story. They don't even have a big party at the end how could they be any good?

>>49535 Funny enough Kreia being totally wrong is the best part of KOTOR 2. People meme about her being schizo but she's just relatively complex and ultimately looking to blame the Force for her fucked up life to avoid responsibility. Deep down she knows the light side Exile is right.

>>49636 You actually need to visit a library holy shit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_asleep_in_mountain Get inside one right now and don't leave until you read something that isn't shonenslop

>>49636 >Is that like a common thing? Surprisingly, yeah >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_asleep_in_mountain

>>49440 Sigurd from fire emblem. Revive him into a vengeful undead knight after being incinerated by Arvis for peak edginess. You could even make him rock the Soul of Cinder look.

>>49440 Do you want knights / swordsmen specifically, or just really good fighters/leaders?

>>49642 Either one works. >>49641 Thanks for the suggestion.

>>49639 >>49640 This is weirdly specific

>>49635 In what world?

>>49644 And yet its a constantly repeating part of numerous cultures and beliefs and stories across all time across various different cultures the world over. The name is jsut one given to the observatrion of how ubiquitious these themes are in the stories humanity constantly tells itself, just as the Hero's Journey/Monomyth is likewise the name given to the constantly repeating themes across the great stories humanity keeps writing and tells across all time. Which likewise reinforces how fallacious it is to dismiss such ideas and concepts that have stood the test of time, and that you can't just dismiss them and try to replace them without anything of substance to provide in its place. These concepts are eternal, and you are not greater than your ancestors.

>>49647 Okay, but it's not, like, in the Lost Boys and that movie was really good.

>>49648 Wait, maybe it is in the Lost Boys... I'd have to rewatch the movie. Yeah, no, I think it is

>>49643 >Either one works. Metal Gear Solid. Force of the Times scenario, survive 1964-2014 and you get to companion Venom Snake. He's an MGS protagonist, ex-commander of a powerful PMC, and already used to being used as part of a greater plan. Exalted Mortal Hero Gauntlet. If you Ghost-Blooded Child in the Ten Thousand Winter Nights destiny, they're indebted to you and I'm sure wouldn't mind being a catspaw. Not sure how good of a leader/commander they are though.

Guys I want to hit a starwars jump as a first jump which, one would you guys say has the best/most free form spaceship option?

>>49645 It's genuinely impressive that one man can simultaneously be so unswervingly confident, have so many bad takes, and also be a secondary in every major franchise published in the last 30 years.

>>49562 Balance to the Force is eradication of the Dark side. This is like someone telling you to cure a dying person and then you start screaming "NOOO NOT THE HECKING CANCER CELLS, YOU'RE LITERALLY KILLING THE PERSON INVOLVED!!" Also literally every shit storm has been started by some overambitious retard not listening to his master, then dying like a fucking tool because of it. From Xendor to Freedon Nadd, and from Revan to Anakin. Literally every single time had they just followed what the Jedi taught them they wouldn't have a problem.

>>49650 (me) >If you Ghost-Blooded Child If you SPARE the Ghost-Blooded Child ffs

>>49651 The OT Jump's option was very cheap, you can basically get an X-Wing for not much of your budget. SWTOR also has some very cheap options, mostly because it's an entirely separate CP pool for your ships/items.

>>49652 Look, man, I just didn't take kindly to the idea I thought he was espousing, which was that basically every story is the hero's journey. I like horror movies and I'm pretty sure almost none of those are the hero's journey.

>>49621 >mfw Ignoring all those spoilers, there's something you're not bringing up: The Man in the Wall is acasual, being able to exist in multiple points in time. Hell, the Strands of Khra are basically the only thing keeping it from doing even MORE time bullshit thanks to its finger/fingers being severed, but for a brief period of time before then, it was unshackled. It could easily be akin to a Chaos God in the sense that while it had a specific point where it was born, the Void made it so it has always existed. All those experiments definitely came after Albrecht's initial encounter, so while all of what you said is correct (along with the Indifference's absolute thirst for uniqueness), it also doesn't exactly contradict the other implication. Rell and the Red Veil also saw it as more of a malignant extension of the Void rather than the Void itself, but with its level of power such a distinction would be pretty trivial. The dust and stone realm of the Murmur that the Man in the Wall has his grubby hands all over also paints the idea that it the Void itself in an odd light, as one would think the entirety of the Void would be that way if it were the case. The problem is a lot of this is just too nebulous and we have no confirmation on its exact nature. All we know is what we've talked about, and even its origin is speculation at best. >>49627 Some weird phasing ability that's used as a defensive measure, by partially shunting themselves. It's not jumping into the Void itself outright, the Tenno needs to use the Zariman to enter Duviri and the Orbiter is used to enter the Void for the purposes of getting to the Towers. The Tenno themselves don't exactly pop open portals and enter willy nilly.

>>49656 (psycho) >which was that basically every story is the hero's journey >>49625 (psycho) >I don't think I'm being selective about what they say. >>49585 (not psycho) >basically any and every story that starts with "main character's home gets destroyed and he has to leave" How does psycho post here and make jumps if he's illiterate?

>>49562 Also there has literally never been an example of Jedi Masters straight up killing their students because of visions the students had. At best you have that one time where thanks to the upcoming shit storm that Revan causes, a group of them get a vision that their apprentices will become basically Vader(they literally had a vision of Darth Vader) and decided to kill them all. Except wait, this was the Jedi illuminati being manipulated by a Sith wannabe who helped form and influence its actions solely for the sake of picking up Marka Ragnos' sloppy seconds.

>>49658 The initial conversation started with the guy saying modern movies suck ass because they don't follow the Hero's journey, which implies that the basic assumption of every story is that it'll be the Hero's journey and anything that isn't is an aberration from the norm.

>>49657 Oh shit, didn't realize you weren't caught up. My mistake. Personally, I just interpreted the Murmur's stone-like bone realm to be what the Void is /actually/ like when 'properly' manifested. The fact it so strongly resembles the Vitruvian Man looking appearance of the Indifference's 'true' form (which itself has been called a "wall of bone" or the "wall separating the Void from reality") does lend credence to the idea to a degree.

>>49653 >Balance to the Force is eradication of the Dark side. Its literally not >Also literally every shit storm has been started by some overambitious retard not listening to his master, How about all the times the jedi crashed out because they misinterpret visioms, like the time they killed all their padawans because they had a vision one was going to leave the order? >From Xendor to Freedon Nadd, and from Revan to Anakin. Literally every single time had they just followed what the Jedi taught them they wouldn't have a problem. You mean all the guys that were taught by the jedi in the first place?

>>49659 Ah yes more jesi revisionism. Im sure the jedi padawan massacre never happened.

>>49663 NTA, but Anakin wasn't a Jedi Master.

>>49664 Not talking about anakin this time. Its happened more than once.

>>49662 It literally is. As according to Lucas: >"So the idea of temptation is one of the things we struggle against, and the temptation obviously is the temptation to go to the dark side. One of the themes throughout the films is that the Sith lords, when they started out thousands of years ago, embraced the dark side. They were greedy and self-centered and they all wanted to take over, so they killed each other. Eventually, there was only one left, and that one took on an apprentice. And for thousands of years, the master would teach the apprentice, the master would die, the apprentice would then teach another apprentice, become the master, and so on. But there could never be any more than two of them, because if there were, they would try to get rid of the leader, which is exactly what Vader was trying to do, and that's exactly what the Emperor was trying to do. The Emperor was trying to get rid of Vader, and Vader was trying to get rid of the Emperor. And that is the antithesis of a symbiotic relationship, in which if you do that, you become cancer, and you eventually kill the host, and everything dies. >How about all the times the jedi crashed out because they misinterpret visioms, like the time they killed all their padawans because they had a vision one was going to leave the order? Mentioned that, and you forgot that it was once again caused by a Sith wannabe basically grooming Draay into being a "hard man doing hard things while hard" pos. >You mean all the guys that were taught by the jedi in the first place? ... Who decided to crash out like retards by acting in the exact opposite of the Jedi Code? Yes, those guys who decided they knew better then instantly plunged the galaxy into a supreme clustering fuck of evil and war.

>>49665 Oh, neat.

>>49663 I am literally describing that situation in that post. Unlike you I read the comics, so I can immediately tell based off that description we are referring to the same event. Read what you talk about before speaking with confidence.

>>49666 So you admit that the jedi are the ones crashing out, and lucas is a fucking hack who had to be tard wrangled every step of the way, what he intended doesnt mean shit. Thats like trying to argue we should use diminishing returns and all be able to be killed by a swat team in jumpchain because its what qs intended.

>>49660 > with the guy saying modern movies suck ass because they don't follow the Hero's journey, Modern *Star Wars sucks because it doesn't follow the Hero's Journey just like the original trilogy did, and the original Star Wars was able to resonate well with audiences and culture so well inspite of Lucas's bumbling foolishness because it followed the steps of the Hero's Journey effectively.

>>49668 >>49668 They had a traumatic vision and immediately decided they needed to kill all their padawans and frame the one that got away. Im not sure how you think that helps your case.

>>49671 No no he said that one doesn't count, therefore everything is okay and good

>>49669 Lol, mad you got exposed for secondaryism?

>>49672 It seems like a lot of shit "doesnt count" when it comes to the jedi. Kinda shows why the galaxy didnt care or celebrated when they gor murdered.

>>49671 You keep forgetting the part where they were all left by the son of a founding member of the Jedi illuminati also formed by the aforementioned Sith dickrider. You're acting like they were average Jedi or something.

>>49673 Not really? I can point towards stuff that happened and show it happened, you can only point to "this is how I envisioned it" type shit and say stuff doesnt count for reasons.

>>49670 Okay, but hear me out - JJK is hero's journey and it sucks fat donkey nuts

>>49661 It's not that I'm not caught up, I'm already caught up. I just try to be courteous for anyone who isn't by spoilering up to a certain point. Honestly, the whole thing is messed up. It's genuinely uncertain whether that's the True Void, or if that's just the Man in the Wall's influence/manifestation. I only say this because nobody really fucked with the Void until Albrecht did, and the Man in the Wall never popped up until... well, Albrecht broke in. But we also don't see the wall of bone anywhere in Duviri save for Vor mentioning his body turning to bone and joining the Wall when his body stops working (assuming you let him live long enough to yap). I suspect it's more likely that the bone and stone is more where the Indifference is operating, and the True Void is effectively a primordial soup that reacts... interestingly to just about anything it possibly comes into contact with. Less a mirror and more the stuff of raw chaos that can be bent by anyone with sufficient willpower and self-control since Albrecht stressed those traits as hella important when dealing with the Void. He evidently didn't practice what he preached (or did a poor job at it), but he's our top expert and the Drifter exerting their will over Thrax to do time loops does lend credence to it. Overall, the real problem is that we have few solid facts beyond the timeline, and the sheer nature of the Void means we're unlikely to get exact specifics. So when I do the rework, I'm gonna have to keep your speculation in mind as well as my own, because Eternalism and Conceptual Embodiment means neither have to be incorrect, HOLY FUCK I WISH I DRANK.

>>49677 I've never read JJK so I can't weigh on on that. But counter point, The Princess Bride is a Heroe's Journey as is literally the most perfect movie ever made.

Is your jumper a sleazy feline?

>>49677 >followed the steps EFFECTIVELY I can follow a really good recipe, but if I fuck it up the food is still gonna be garbage.

>>49675 I mean its not like the other jedi called them out or are even any better in clone wars era. Like when baris was being a terrorist and the jedi order decides (without doing any kind of detective work at all or needing real evidence) to pin it all on ahsoka and kick her out. The jedi have always been up their own asses to excuse themselves and paint it in a good light.

>>49678 phenomena affirmation when?

>>49676 I point to the actual storyline, and the words of the author. You seethe because you've seen not heard either before this thread. Have a good evening.

>>49682 They literally had to hide that they did it and blame it on the surviving apprentice because the Jedi council would have fucked them six ways to Sunday otherwise. The entire comic is about Zayne revealing their bullshit and getting them exposed to the others. Like I said, you didn't read the comics.

>>49682 Even if any of that was true, it doesn't matter, since Lucas was top dog in Legends and his opinions held primacy over everything in any conflict.

>>49684 I point towards the actual story and not some nebulous bullshit that has no actual point in the story or plot. The origins of the jedi are from a group of people who literally worshipped the force in both the light and the dark. Going to either side saw them being forced to meditate on the other side to achieve balance again. Hell the jedaii code was much better even. It goes There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no fear, there is power. I am the heart of the Force. I am the revealing fire of light. I am the mystery of darkness. In balance with chaos and harmony, Immortal in the Force. But I guess you fall firmly on the nu wars "Force is female, slay queen, rey skywalker avatar of the jedi order" side of things.

>Star Wars discussion As the "Evil guy with good aesthetics" who is still organizing the chain, should I be a sith pretending to be a noncombatant, sith pretending to be a jedi, or just use jedi perks/abilities for dickery? Moreover, in settings where the so-called "angels" are already evil, should I go with their perkline, or go with the not-evil side and just be a dickhead?

>>49669 >Thats like trying to argue we should use diminishing returns and all be able to be killed by a swat team in jumpchain because its what qs intended. To be fair, being an Excrusian Strategist dying of swat teams sounds funny.

>>49685 I dont think you read them since at the end they dont exactly go in and arrest everyone involved. They do bomb the place though, killing all the noncombatants too.

>>49686 >since Lucas was top dog in Legends and his opinions held primacy over everything in any conflict. Now come on, you dont even believe that one.

>>49690 Also didnt the jedi literally cover it up and claim it was a mandalorian plot or was that a different comic?

>>49687 You mean the same Jedaii who instantly descended into the most vicious Civil War in Force User history until the Great Hyperspace war? The same ones who originated the practice of Sith Alchemy? Who lived on a death world that murdered them if they allowed too much of one side of the Force? Once again, I'm sure you don't actually read what you're talking about, and just follow memes and fanfiction .

>>49688 Jedi pretending to be Sith. SWTOR shows that's the most hilarious fucking thing possible. Just watch a light side sith cutscene compilation, it's one of the most entertaining things to witness, it's like a Khornate daemon planting daisies as far as the characters react.

>>49690 Yeah, because most of them had already died by that point, and it was the main bad guys plot to get that to happen. Really wiki skimming aren't you?

Anyways, what did you guys do in Sonic jumps?

>>49688 To be honest you should just be a force user abusing jedi and sith teachings and say fuck joining either orser. By the time of the movies they are so fucked its not really worth the hassle. Kotor era they were pretty good though, both sides had a lot going for them.

>>49688 How about just a straight up light side user who is still evil and just makes sure not to tap into the dark side, like it doesn't take much to not consider the effect on your sanity and the backstabbing nature of the profession to not be worth it. Like the concept of Jedi being ruthless, detached and using their position and powers for personal gain isn't exactly unheard off. During the Clone Wars would probably be the best timing for that, as you coulld embrace the increasing militarization of the order nd control over the clone, and actually push the jedi to commit a coup like Palpatine was trying to deceive Anakin about, you could even try to tempt other Jedi what with the increasing corruption of the Republic and how a Sith Managed to be Supreme Chancellor. Maybe even convince Senators in the background to support you to push for Order 65(which turns the Clones against Palapatine).

>>49693 Like I said in my original post that happened once they decided to stop being in balance and tried to kick out any who used the dark side and taking up the name jedi, in spite of both the force and the planet telling them that was a bad idea.

>>49696 >Sonic Shadow's story is a Hero's Journey. So is Silver's.

>>49695 I like how you dont deny it you just claim the information isnt in comic format.

>>49700 >Spoiler I mean, in Shadow the hedgehog I guess

>>49698 I am 100% sure order 65 (while supposedly part of the chips programming) was never actually installed.

>>49699 They decided to kick them out because they literally used Alchemy to make an army of force beasts and escalate a theological debate into a war of extinction. Secondary kun, please stop. Ajunta Pall got exiled AFTER all that retarded shit happened, and even his force ghost admits he was King of all the idiots and should have just listened to his masters because they were unequivocally correct.

>>49694 The best part is whenever you talk to actual jedi they just mentally shut down or get violent.

>>49696 To be honest, I mainly go to the Sonic jumps for my scientist/inventor chains. So most of the time, it's 'cyborg mad scientist throws hands with Robotnik/Eggman for title of main villain while also fighting Sonic and friends'. Black Knight is a go to for any of my magic chains, though, even if I don't go full Merlina with the scenario. The magic boosting perk alone is incredibly useful, not to mention the perk that gives you your own Dark Queen form/shadow to fight your enemies with that grows stronger as your magical power grows stronger. It's incredibly useful for squishy mage Jumpers.

>>49704 Thats not true actually, they order used force beasts such as flying rancors for a long time before that and the leviathans and such came long after they kicked out the dark side users, way after they colonised korriban actually.

>>49701 You're literally using a plot caused by a Sith wannabe to blame the Jedi, after making several wrong assertions and pretending that you always knew most of them had died by that point(you didn't, you're lying and an idiot). Just like how you didn't know until now that it wasn't the council that had ordered that, but the secret pseudo sith illuminati until I just told you. I'm sure you'll find a good way around pretending you always knew that too.

>>49703 the Clones seemed to think it would have worked, so I am inclined to trust that it would have and that Palpatine was just confident enough in his sway over the senators to not worry about it too much. Dude didn't mind gambling with his life, like at the start of episode 3 where he totally could have died if the Ship actually crashed.

>>49704 NTA, but wasn't Ajunta Pall and the Hundred Year Darkness AFTER the original Je'daii Civil War? Like I thought it was: >Je'daii Civil War >War with Legions of Lettow >Hundred Year Darkness, leading to Dark Jedi exiles who become the first Sith Lords

>>49704 Terentateks (the species so dangerous the jedi tried to extinct them) were made by a jedi light side user and dumped on the darkside nexus moon of tython actually. Being dumped there warped them into what is now known and made them want to eat force users.

>>49694 >light side sith cutscene compilation Those are pretty good. However - I've done the "good guy using bad powers" before, several chains like that in fact. I've been suggested to do the opposite, so I'm exploring that now. >>49697 Not a bad idea. I could pretend to not be a force user at all, but I have to say that a sith wearing light beige robes with a blue lightsaber is something to see. >>49698 Just straight go "fuck that dark side shit" huh? I've been thinking on how I could fuck things up with a "No attachments, no emotions" outlook, though not sure how it would jibe with the rest of my chain. And yeah, the dark side really does try its best to screw you over at the earliest convenience.

>>49710 I assumed he was talking about Ajunta's banishment and misattributing it at that time because after the civil war, both sides were incapable of living on Tython, the Jedi didn't just win then banish them, that was specifically an Ajunta Cuck thing.

>>49713 Oh, okay, my bad.

>>49708 >pseudo sith illuminati >inside the jedi order Cope harser man thats actually more reason to say how corrupt the jedi were if they didnt see something like that.

>>49595 >40k - Imperium Nihilus Wasn't that joke supposed to be updated

>>49712 In that case Sith pretending to be Jedi is the better option. Mostly because everyone but the Jedi order would see something wrong with the Jumper and they'd comically keep trying to assert that he's just troubled but good at heart.

>>49715 You mean one guy during a very short time period that got mad he got cucked(I'm not even joking, that's his backstory) who got noticed, then deleted immediately once discovered? Wow, what a real Goge Vandire he was, a sign of the Jedi's corruption he embodied.

>>49712 Luke actually encouraged his jedi to form attachments and to study the dark side when he was in charge. I hate how nu wars completely massacred the character.

>>49719 He also canonically fucked back then.

>>49569 >The image I have in mind for her would be similar to Pram from Nippon Ichi without the black sclera but she's open to interpretation beyond looking like a young woman with some potentially unnatural features. You mean like this?

>>49718 If the jedi order cant tell they have what you call a pseudo sith illuminati running around made of their members then thats a major fuckup on their part and a massive point in the "Jedi are fuckups" tally.

>>49721 A bit older and with red eyes but that's pretty much just right!

>>49720 He fucked a hot sith assassin which makes it even better.

>>49720 >>49724 Lucas actually fucking hated that btw.

>>49653 NTA but the Jedi are the literal cause of 90% of the problems in Star Wars, including the Sith themselves. The entire point is that the Jedi teachings are completely wrong and incredibly flawed, a fact that's not merely proven by many examples but is outright acknowledged by many of the greatest Jedi Masters of all time. The way to bring balance to the Force is to destroy the Jedi Order. That's it. The Jedi are the problem but during the prequel era they were too stupid and lacked the self-awareness to realize this fact. Anakin flawlessly fulfilled his destiny as the Chosen One and brought balance to the Force by annihilating the Jedi Order and then also destroying the Sith. Luke would then go on to build a new Jedi Order with radically different teachings that outright rejected the vast majority of what the old Jedi Order of the prequels era adhered to. Because basically everyone recognized that they were absolutely stupid and the Sith only rose to power because of their utter incompetence and inflexibility.

>>49722 Wow bro, it's almost like you're forgetting that they had just come off the back of a devastating war and were heading into another one which was both the justification used to create it, and the reason it slipped through the cracks for so long. Also how the hell is not noticing an Illuminati that wasn't doing anything until that point a point against them? Our own government doesn't do shit about secret societies that actively campaign and you expect the Jedi to magically ascertain that motherfuckers as good at the force as them were doing bullshit. If they pulled some 1984 surveillance you'd just be criticizing them for that.

>>49717 >The Separatist War means I'm too useful to be removed from my position Now should it be "Everyone except the Jedi thinks I'm fucked in the head" or "Jedi think I'm a heretic but everyone thinks I'm just pragmatic"

>>49726 >nta Sure you're not secondary-kun

>>49669 We should use diminishing returns and if there's a point wherein a jumper is forced to sustain prolonged small arms fire, that jumper should die.

>>49712 the attachment thing is not as strict as fans make it out to be. Almost all Jedi form at least some attachments to their Masters and Padawan for example, its just not supposed to drive you to abuse your power. Personally I think an Evil Jedi driven by rational self interest rather than pure emotions and lust for power who makes sure to not let his mood get in the way of his action could work well enough.

>>49727 >Our own government doesn't do shit about secret societies that actively campaign Exactly the fucking point and yes big surprise our government is also fucking corrupt, is this a surprise for you?

>>49729 Nice attempt. Try again but don't be a retarded schizo this time.

>>49723 >A bit older and with red eyes So like this?

>>49731 Thats just a sith actually following the sith code

>>49733 Schizo > Samefag > Nta > Schizo

>>49734 Very much yes.

>>49683 When I finish the Bayo rework/update, upon which I need to figure out if I'm even gonna put it up on offer or not because apparently I'm destined to neck myself.

>>49728 Pong Krell shows that the former is super interesting in a warzone situation. Especially because of the division it might cause if some of your Jumpers troops are onboard with the psycho, and some aren't. Not to mention how other Jedi who do a mission might feel about it. There are a lot of stories you could tell around that, like hastening, or slowing Anakin's fall by being an example of what he might end up being.

>>49736 No, see. I'm not samefagging. I'm a different anon. That's why you're a schizo.

>>49728 Now I'm reminded of that one fanfic where Anakin gets sent back in time after his death, except instead of making things better he actually makes things worse because he's still got that Vader in him. Anakin becomes a war hero but in the sense of being a ruthless and brilliant leader who the Jedi are terrified of but the admirals love, Ahsoka falls to the Dark Side, Padme slides towards the New Order kind of thinking, and even as Anakin wants to undermine Palpatine, it's actually Dooku who is causing Palpatine trouble, having broken off because he thought Anakin was Palpatine's secret apprentice at Geonosis.

>>49735 it fails at the first line, just dont let passion drive you.

>>49740 I didn't mean to tag you, my bad

>>49732 >Cutting out the rest Aww. How pathetic.

>>49698 A completely sociopathic Jedi would be really funny. He's like a paragon in the Force, utterly untouchable to the dark side. Incorruptible. Not because he has willpower or compassion but because he's literally just incapable of caring about other people or feeling emotion/passion strongly enough to ever fall to the dark side. He just casually murders innocent people for his own convenience without feeling a single shred of emotion or hesitation, not even setting one foot in the dark side in the process.

>>49738 red, just put it on offer, if the source material is unbalanced it isn't your job to try to balance it(also it's weakness apparently being willpower is still hilarious).

>>49739 Didnt he just send his clones in to die in human waves lile a fucking psychopath?

>>49741 >I am now having flashbacks of that one fanfic where Padme treats Anakin as a psycho after he kills the Tuskens and runs off with Obi-Wan to join the separatists. Goddamn, It'll be a bitch and a half to find that again.

>>49737 Can she swap between them while pimping out demons?

>>49747 Pretty much, but the reputation of a Jedi hard carried him through his dumb bullshit. A Jumper could easily be that, but not retarded. Kinda like the difference between Chad Revan devastating Malachor V and that cuck Alek ruining Taris for no real reason.

>>49749 Well her true form is a book, so if you want her manifested form to swap between a few versions she can probably oblige.

>>49739 >>49741 >Two cool but mutually exclusive premises Fuckin hell. Lets do the "Flip a coin and see how you feel about the result" thing 1d2 = 2 >1) Everyone except the Jedi hates me >2) Only the Jedi hate me >>49741 Hows the grammar?

>>49752 Kek.

Earth is gonna be real different once I finally get back. It will have almost been a year since everything got a bit crazy, and a lot of things are going to be happening. I'll be meeting with a team from the Earth U.S. for safe journey and they're going to want information on what the hell has been happening. They've been informed to some extent and agreed to an immunity deal for any light crimes I may have committed on the run, but they weren't given anything about where I went, what I did, or why I had close relations with Death City despite their usual stance on Witches. Some stuff I would have sworn not to disclose, but in general I think I can say I found myself in a peculiar position in the Dark World that found me becoming a relative expert on the spiritual metaphysiology and magic they possess, and so Lord Death wanted assistance on combating the Undead Curse that was plaguing that place. I can't talk about specific projects I was involved in within the Mad World, but I can talk about sorcery. I'm going to get dropped off back in Texas, back home, but they're going to keep contact with me, and I'm pretty sure I'll be writing up a textbook on sorcery for any Scholar that might wanna aspect with the Dark World. The U.S. and Germany might also make a deal where Germany is allowed to ask me about any potential threats that might enter their country from the World Portal that they're not familiar with. For a while I'm going to be a relatively important figure. People are going to know of me. As part of the overarching details, Earth officials won't be inquiring as to the details of my current companions who clearly aren't human. I'll likely explain my Familiar, but the two that joined me as I left the Mad World are unknowns and it's going to stay that way because of the ramifications of them being on Earth. Not sure when I'll get the freedom to travel and conduct more personal business again, but I think after reconnecting with family I'm going to try and sell off a lot of the materials and Aether Crystals I've collected for funding, and then taking this party to Madagascar. There's a World Portal to Monster Hunter there.

>>49748 >join the Separatists >Padme >joining the Separatists >the faction that includes the Trade Federation, which invaded her planet and tried to assassinate her multiple times >led by a guy who wants her dead and agreed to join partly because it means she would die I think Anakin might have dodged a bullet if she's that stupid.

>>49750 >Taris Wasnt taris just dumpier shittier coruscant?

>>49753 >Clones love me because I keep them alive and kill the enemy dead, command staff love me because I win battles, (Republic) civilians love me because propaganda >Jedi hate me because I do Geneva Checklist tier shit and act like >>49745

>>49757 To be fair the jedi broke so many of the geneva conventions. Good thing those dont exist there. Pretty sure using child soldiers and constantly pretending to surrender would get them in trouble.

>>49737 for the God Slayer Class drawback I've got two questions. 1st is the master that summons us a cute waifu and 2nd can we keep them as a companion / follower if they survive?

>>49756 It was racist shittier Coruscant with a Zombie Sith Monster virus.... So yes.

>>49755 Yeah, it was hilarious. I always wished someone would do a fanfic set in the setting that just has Anakin reacting to that situation as realistically as possible and everything ends up better because he isn't a Padme simp.

>>49752 >Hows the grammar? Pretty good, all things considered. Depending on the website, you might see formatting issues or grammar problems here and there, but it's a lot better than similar stories. Fanfic's called 'Knight of the Force', though a quick heads up that it dies right when it starts getting really good, when some of the Jedi, seeing how desperate the war is getting, decide to become assassins and hit the Separatist leadership.

>>49758 >Good thing those dont exist there nta, but the Yavin Code is actually a thing >Pretty sure using child soldiers and constantly pretending to surrender would get them in trouble. I've actually seen an amusing YouTube video about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Idhcu2jUI

>>49759 >1st is the master that summons us a cute waifu Harem perks 'might' tip the odds in your favor but no guarantees. >2nd can we keep them as a companion / follower if they survive? If you want I suppose, but in the absence perks shifting the odds it will probably be a sketchy guy from the Mages Association.

>>49751 This one had a question >>49634

All this just reminds me that when I made my jedi cultivation method I just made the light/dark binary work more on a method that made the lightside turn you into a sociopath and the darkside turn you bipolar so you needed to form a balance.

Do Jedi really have the ability to run really fast and they only use to go from scene to scene?

>>49767 Depends on your opinion on that one TPM scene.

>>49761 >"You're a maniac! You killed not just the men, but the women and children too!" >"They tortured and murdered my mother! Maybe it was wrong of me, maybe I lost control, but I...!" >"I'm going to run off with Obi-Wan and join the Separatists!" >"...say what now?" >"What part didn't you get?" >"The part where you're running off with Obi-Wan, and to join the faction where the group trying to kill you because you thwarted the invasion of your planet is a member of?" >"So what aren't you getting?" >"...oh fuck, is THIS what the Dark Side does to you? Makes you hallucinate shit like you're on Death Sticks? I think I own an apology to Master Windu and everyone else..."

>>49769 Send this to Seals Are Good

>>49762 >it dies right when it starts getting really good Don't worry, I'm used to that.

>>49770 Who?

>>49772 The guy who makes those Star Wars AI voiced videos

>>49772 Seals are good.

>>49773 NTA, but I feel like parodying a Star wars fanfic would get lost on most people, especially when there is so much canon stuff still fo mock

>>49764 >it will probably be a sketchy guy from the Mages Association. The solution is simple, just use an authority to turn him into a cute gal.

>>49613 This is meant to be a joke but my supervisors at work were showing my some pop singer or another flashing her pussy on stage and they insisted it was the hottest thing ever instead of disgusting. I really get it. Maybe I WAS meant to be nobility tard wrangling peasants.

>>49613 I won't say I was meant to be nobility. Maybe just a particularly belligerent, mildly corrupt tax collector sent by the lord to browbeat the tactless peasantry into submission.

>>49777 Mame shame great again. Im tired of having to pretend there is nothing wrong with someone weighing 600 lbs or being a complete whore in public.

Naruto Experience - Freak of Nature (1000) Perks Refined Control/Shape Transformation Ninjutsu Specialty Genjutsu Specialty (100) Taijutsu Specialty (100) Sensei (100) Bukijutsu Specialty (200) Fuinjutsu (200) Drawbacks Dark Past (+100) Lazy (+200) Friendly Fire (+200) Bounty (+200) How strong is this, the most generic general build ever?

>>49745 Imagine someone like that frequently abusing mind tricks to make money or get light but still fully ping as light sided.

>>49780 You've made post series Kakashi. So, very, very, very strong. Just make yourself some purple lightning.

>>49780 You'd be like peak Hiruzen(with less chakra but more control) and everyone you teach could easily reach Sannin Level

>>49593 >I see the hints of an interesting and intricate world and it calls to me.

>>49634 >Can we fuse the pre-made authorities? In general no but they can synergize, Divine Manifestation already has the potential for turning your authorities into wives and Ride of the Valkryies turns your kills into them as the main effect. >Also may I suggest a toggle for taking Shirou’s place Probably not, as Shirou, Illya, and the potential for further crossover with Fate they provide are the main differentiation of the initial world from just the normal Campione setting. If you become the only difference then what's the point of it being a different jump? >the classic toggle for keeping your story in their word Possibly, but keep in mind that would likely be an entirely separate World Line, reachable with the right Authority or True Magic but otherwise unlikely to have an impact. >Lastly, a purely personal request, but if you are still accepting them for waifus, may I request a Melusine? Possible, I'm not opposed to more wafies and there is a good chance that I'll 'need' to add more for formatting reasons so she could get in on that. >>49776 An entirely sensible solution.

>>49511 >your standard MMO I was told this was what FF14 was like until after Endwalker.

>>49784 I respect him for being honest about it. Many of us fall into Autism Traps much like flies fall into pitcher plants, few are willing to admit that the descent is enjoyable even if the setting is flawed.

>>49788 >few are willing to admit that the descent is enjoyable >the descent is enjoyable lol

>>49567 Now that I think about it, didn't the Tenno literally teleport one time? Like they didn't just do their weird tangible ghost projection like usual, they physically teleported across the entire solar system. How would they have done that if they couldn't enter the Void which is the primary means of FTL travel? Or am I misremembering? It's been ages since I've actually done the old story quests.

>>49535 >During which Luke didn't use the Force but rather, and I quote, "C3P0's superior robotic brain" to perform the shot that destroyed the Death Star So THAT'S where Kathleen/JJ got the idea of C3PO being magically able to translate the inexplicable sekrit Sith language (at the cost of short circuiting)

>>49789 It is enjoyable in the sense that getting hooked on crack is enjoyable to the addict.

>>49778 I respect this. A wholly uncaring grinder and brute is at least honest.

>>49786 It IS a typical MMO: boring as shit and supposedly takes 500 hours to be fun (never does they lied)

>>49792 Oddly specific but fair I guess?

>>49765 Thanks Anon. >>49785 >Combinations. Ok, thank you. >Probably not, as Shirou, Illya, and the potential for further crossover with Fate they provide are the main differentiation of the initial world from just the normal Campione setting. If you become the only difference then what's the point of it being a different jump? Not gonna lie, perfectly understandable, I only asked that because I fell obligated to if I was asking for the other toglle to at least mention it. >Possibly, but keep in mind that would likely be an entirely separate World Line, reachable with the right Authority or True Magic but otherwise unlikely to have an impact. Mostly because as I said, the idea of a jumper who has gone to the Fate/Legends jumps, and so Shirou recognizes as one of Arturia knights, or Illya recognizes as Heracles friend, just for some weird reason being there is kind of funny. Or Gilgamesh and Enkidu’s bro just coming up, asking about their old pal Gil. Like, yeah, for the Stay night/Zero jumps it does not work that well, but for legends, it’s does works great. >Possible, I'm not opposed to more wafies and there is a good chance that I'll 'need' to add more for formatting reasons so she could get in on that. Well, I shall be hoping she gets in them. Thanks regardless and best of luck, I shall look forward to the full jump.

It's funny how the Hylian shield became just as iconic as the master sword and was therefore retconned to be super strong when in Ocarina it was just a random metal shield from a store.

>>49797 I find it sad imo.

>>49797 It's even better because it's literally just the standard issue shield for Hylian soldiers/knights. You can even see the exact same shield mounted on walls and stuff. So it's not even rare, it's just a standard steel shield fielded by Hyrule's military forces. Which is why it's not even particularly expensive in the shop you buy it from.

>>49798 Meanwhile, shieds like the Mirror Shields are left to rot.

>>49535 The force in The old republic games just seems all around better than it is handled in current mainline movies and games. Each side clearly has their own shit going on, each is different, but neither is really more powerful or better. Just different. Kathleen just added fuel to the fire with her force is female nonsense to make it worse.

>>49746 >also it's weakness apparently being willpower is still hilarious Owning Phenomena Operation turns every chain into a motivation check. If the enemy is something like an automated fleet of mindless drones, a mass of rage-driven spirits with no restraint, a hivemind of alien locusts or a neutronium, then even if those things can create and destroy entire universes you just fucking offscreen them effortlessly by rewriting the plot so you win. But if there is even ONE, ONE funny little blonde man in a green outfit who has the courage and willpower to perceive you as an existential threat and never give up against you, it's easier to warp the rest of reality than to vanish that guy from existence and your power is useless for doing anything directly to him. You can't even just blip his universe away, you have to kill the guy head-on before you can do anything except subtle, indirect machinations. In a way it's like DETERMINATION in Undertale, it reigns supreme until someone else with enough DETERMINATION shows up. Except the threshold for meeting the motivation check is higher. Because apparently all the demons and gods in Bayonetta's cosmology couldn't do shit to stop Singularity from barricading them out of reality while he was gathering the power needed to merge the ENTIRE Trinity of Realities into one.

>>49766 Tbh, I'm glad you posted this because my versions of Force Cultivation go from "You have a gayer version of a golden core" then inevitably progress to "You're a Warp Daemon now".

>>49633 >It is my Destiny(TM) to outlast this Marathon(TM) This also implies that either the Witness or the Winnower itself is the Lone Wolf and/or Oryx's Lilith, kek

>>49639 >>49640 Huh, I read quite a bit but I'm not all that familiar with this. Wait, is THAT why some random old dude in the first Zelda gives you a sword and tells you to go slay evil? He was evoking this?

How would Warhammer Fantasy Mages react to a random guy joining one of the orders, suddenly learning everything, fusing all the Winds into Qhaysh, then acting like everyone else is retarded for not being able to do it easily?

>>49806 Multiple Winds at once? In this Empire? Die heretic.

>>49802 So it's Coup Noodles from Metal Wolf Chaos?

>>49803 I generally try to stick to the more common powers and turn each of the more esoteric powers into special techniques with being pure light or dark being undesireable but light side obviously being easier to deal with. Full darkside being a walking emotionally unstable bomb with full lightside being completely uncaring (honestly the idea that buddhist cultivators may dig that did occur to me) Cant fly on a lightsaber though

>>49597 >>49599 >>49602 >>49605 >>49608 >>49623 >>49784 So basically what you are telling me is that it's nowhere near as awesome and complex as it sounds/feels while being vaguely hinted at in this crossover.

>>49790 I... do not remember that at all. But honestly considering what the Tenno seem capable of, it wouldn't surprise me that they can just somehow teleport over mass distances by turning themselves into energy and yeeting themselves over.

>>49807 Nice, didn't want to be flanderizing the setting.

>>49806 We both know they'd lose their fucking minds anon.

>>49813 I don't, my only understanding of Fantasy is 4 pages of Trollslayer.

>>49810 It is nowhere near as awesome and complex as it sounds or feels. It's just a bunch of rules mixed together to feel deep, only to be broken at the earliest and cheapest convenience.

>>49810 Its slightly less awesome (still awesome in my opinion) and 60x more convoluted than is being hinted at. Granted, I like it, and I still follow the FGO story releases best I can, but even so I barely know more than a bit of a dive, and becoming anything more than a secondary and noobie primary will take actual years of study and investment. If that sounds okay to you, and you're also the type of person to enjoy lore and story synopsis and wiki dives, and are willing to accept you'll never remember everything about the story, especially since much of it hasn't even been translated or are just unfinished notes, then you may enjoy this franchise.

Inspired by Emma Frost's thick tights I decided torture myself by jumping Marvel, any tips (Except hide in the Marvel equivalent of Earth-Aleph) on how to deal with the setting ?

>>49817 Bugger off far away from earth.

>>49806 Shocked that you can do it safely but it's not like it's unprecedented for people to be able to interact with multiple winds. They just don't try to because they think it's impossible for a human to safely do it.

>>49817 Find some mentally ill dude named Clyde Wycham Jr and steal his powers. Also kill Deathstroke.

>>49817 Focus on yourself. Everything else gets dealt with by other people depending on when you go.

>>49817 Kinda depends on your build. What are you grabbing and were there any groups in particular you wanted to interact with? You're picking up emma so you kinda have to interact with the muties. Are you picking her up during her hellfire days or after she joined the x-men? >>49820 Deathstroke is DC anon.

>>49822 Doesn't mean you can't still kill him.

>>49822 They have crossovers.

>>49823 >>49824 Why initiate a crossover event just to kill him?

I am kind of astonished that the only starwars jump I am seeing with a custom "Get any model ship you want" option is the star wars travesty abortion jump.

>>49817 Remember that Marvel Editorial isn't literally writing your chain. Pick a run of comics that's ok and decide that's your primary lense of viewing the setting.

>>49806 Genuinely the answer is >>49807 for the vast majority of people. Even normal wizards are deeply distrusted and they're as vetted as can possibly be if they went to their respective school for it. That being said the heavy hitters in the setting may come to trust you if you consistently keep it under control and don't do fucked up shit with it.

>>49746 >>49802 To be FAIR, the only ones who could resist it were the girl who is the keystone for the entire multiverse, her boyfriend who is a fusion of a fairy king with all his alternative selves and the OTHER keystone, their daughter, and the rival/best friend of the first girl. All of them needed to rely on their willpower AND their metaphysical weight to avoid getting offscreened.

What jumps should I consider if my main concerns are being happy and fulfilled?

>>49830 Otoyomegatari

>>49745 This is literally the mental image I had from taking over Sideous via the Darth Plagueis jump. >Continues commissioning clone armies from Kamino, making Coruscant/the vaguely alluded to affluent upper class of the galactic community happy because cheap exploitable security/labour >Engineers the Trade Federation-Republic war into a peaceful resolution, continuing the production of droids, making the Trade Federation and probably the plebians of the galaxy happy because yay lots of spare capacity in the form of cheap droids after the war >Uses the space age industrial-military complex to completely wipe out the Hutt crime families, the Yuuzhan Vong, the Son and every other rival spacefaring power without a hint of remorse, horrifying the disenfranchised Jedi who have been barred as the space police after Windu's attempt to expose me was brutally thwarted simply by me going "Okay, I surrender Master Jedi. Now...can you show me any actual evidence I am, in fact, a Sith Lord?" then simply refusing to use Force powers until political pressure ended the investigation The odd thing about the Jedi in the PT is that as Lucas said, in Windu's case at least the primary attachment skewing his judgement is...his patriotic fervour for Coruscant as an institution. Given his otherwise lack of vices it can be inferred that the drive to do whatever it takes to safeguard Coruscant as a whole-even at the cost of overlooking individual instances of political corruption as seen in one of the animated shows-is part of what he's tapping into to fuel Vaapad. And given Windu's seniority/the way the Jedi temple is structured at all, it's not a great leap to assume many Jedi share his views. Maybe the reason the Jedi couldn't find Sideous in canon was because they outright refused to acknowledge the idea that was blinding them to the Dark Side emerging within them-and thus camouflaging Palpatine. >>49741 >>49748 https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3055095/1/ANAKIN-S-REDEMPTION Is it this one? >>49808 Coup Noodles is like, 1/8th of what Phenomena Affirmation does. Even when opposed by willpower it can apparently do things like reshape matter into trippy kaleidoscopic structures, turn the ground into telekinetic projectiles, blip multiversal variants of other characters that should have been destroyed with their universe but just kind of respawned from force of will out of existence, and teleport or create yourself-shaped projections like a Stand. It's not clear if Singularity is using Phenomena Affirmation or technology to control the energy of an entire universe with which he is apparently sustaining his multiversal conquest's logistics. Probably a bit of both. >>49829 And the end result was the first two "merely" got onscreened after defeating him (not actually killing despite the appearance of a fucking black hole eating the nearby environment, just damaging him badly enough to drastically weaken him so he fled back in time to Bayonetta Origins) and dragged to Hell together. (And of course Jeanne got onscreened by a stab to the back. But she comes back later and...kinda fades away mid-fight with Singularity. And it's not at all clear what her status is after the multiverse is reset from lack of Singularity fuckery) (And there's a scrap of Bayonetta's soul/consciousness/resentment/whatever hanging around that Viola has to fight at the end of the story who did absolutely fucking nothing except summon the kraken that was a starter encounter for the main Bayo) (And then Kamiya had to come in and clarify that Bayo and Luka are actually fine in Hell. Somehow)

>>49830 Warhammer 40,000: Imperial Guard. Serving Him should be enough.

>>49833 I see you took talons huh

>>49833 Based and better to die for the Emperor than live for yourself pilled

>>49830 My definition of happiness and fulfilment are almost certainly different from yours. I personally could be happy and fulfilled in a variety of jumps which many people would probably find rather unpleasant.

>>49836 Such as?

>>49837 Nta but put me in Destiny the Light and let me kill aliens for ten years, I'll be plenty happy

>>49832 >Coup Noodles is like, 1/8th of what Phenomena Affirmation does. Well yeah, but I'm just comparing it to >will hold out against any force without a named character, but will always lose to any named character Which I wonder why no one ever thinks about it in jumps like Kakegurui, or Generic Sitcom or Medical Drama or Investigation or K-On or many of the other jumps were a list of named characters would just be a bunch of students or civilian adults.

>>49832 I mean being a sith is literally not illegal, they could get palps for any number of issues but saying they wanted him dead because he was a sith lord is literally the worst thing to do. As far as the galaxy is concerned the jedi and sith are literally the same, they would see it like the local baptist church busting down the door of the local mayor and trying to kill him for being a catholic.

What if the people in the Bayonetta multiverse just have really bad willpower on average?

>>49840 The problem is that the Sith have been the enemies of the Republic basically since it's inception. It's like Trump being revealed to be a British sleeper agent, or the President of Iran being revealed to be a Jew. Even if it isn't illegal, he would be finding himself in a prison or grave regardless.

>>49834 You're goddamn right. At least the Emperor tried and continues to try, man. >>49835 Brother.

Took way longer than expected, but Lovecraft items are done. I'm hoping to be finished in the next couple days, but if it takes longer it takes longer. >>49830 Kirby, Nintendogs, Animal Crossing, just about any slice of life Jump.

>>49843 >Pic I never got this anyways. How does the universe being big equal your life not mattering? It's retarded

>>49839 Technically it is less the status of being a "named character" that provides resistance against PO, but willpower. Bayonetta is someone who overcame amnesia to defeat her evil dad, punch God (heavenly) into the sun, fight God (chaos) to a standstill, and let go of the past version of her good dad to TANK his soul so they'd both be bound for Paradiso upon his death. This is probably more willpower than, say, Dr. House or Homer Simpson has. >>49841 In that case you'd be shitting on Dante's willpower too given the easter egg in Bayo 1. >>49840 And yet, that IS the accusation Windu unilaterally went with. Like the other anon said presumably he was hinging everything on being able to tie Palpatine to the Clone Wars, Maul, etc.

>>49844 Will it include a cat with a funny name?

>Dying for Neoth Broke. >Dying for Sigmar Woke.

>>49848 >Dying Gay.

>>49835 >>49848 Dying bad, immortality good

>>49846 >In that case you'd be shitting on Dante's willpower too given the easter egg in Bayo 1. DMC2 already did that for me.

>>49843 Emps catches a LOT of shit but when the cips are down the man will step into the eternal pain machine to save humanity. We know this because he DID that exact thing.

>>49846 >Technically it is less the status of being a "named character" that provides resistance against PO Oh, I'm talking about Coup Noodles/Fight House specifically there, sorry if I was unclear.

>>49830 Campfire Cooking. Just camp and cook.

>>49849 Remember son, dying is gay.

>>49848 >Dying for Sigmar Means a risk of dying for Morathi, because AoS canonised the fact that Sigmar 1. made not!Thunder Warriors as a precursor to the Stormcast and 2. smote one of his own followers for protesting his decision to direct them away from saving his fellow humans to instead reinforce Malerion (new IP friendly name for Malekith) and Morathi's forces. Or worse, Nagash since they had an alliance back in the day as well. That's right. Sigmar grows up into the kind of god-king who will join forces with NAGASH.

>>49822 I'll be honest with you, the only Marvel comic i've ever read was a Spider Man comic with Anti-Venom in it so I have no idea what she was up to in her hellfire days, that said it's probably safer to meet her before she starts living under the same roof as a cosmical being of untold power (She does live in the mansion with Jean and the rest of the X-men right ?)

>>49850 The opposite. Without death, life has no meaning.

>>49858 Not true and cringe.

>>49858 Someone post that fucking picture. You know the one, with Conan

>>49860 thats also reddit.

>>49836 Based to say so. >>49851 >DMC2 already did that for me. Netlix show be like:

>>49858 Fuck off.

>>49806 they'd try to kill you, using more than one wind is arguably the most taboo thing you can do outside of directly and knowingly consorting with daemons. At best you're a heretic, at worst (if they think you're aligned with daemons) you're a double heretic.

>>49864 Mark Waid, Al Ewing and Jim Zub wrote this btw

>>49785 If we have ride of the valkyries & the black grail mud authorities can we have our mud-dipped people also benefit from the valkyrie authority boost?

>>49866 It doesn't matter who wrote something, it's either based or it isn't and this is based.

>>49867 Yes, that would indeed work.

How do you build this guy as your jonin sensei in Naruto? Ignore the fact that he is currently failing the chunin exam.

Oddly specific question, but: are there any perks that would let you convincingly being fake multiple different people at once? Jumper has powers that let him create clones of himself in a hive mind, and different power sets he can use to fake being multiple different people with multiple different power sets, but the idea is to be a fake team of powered people, with different personalities and mindsets and all that, and trick even telepaths into thinking they're multiple people connected by a link rather than a single entity controlling multiple different bodies. So I'd need some perk that would let me multitask or mind split or something so that each of Jumper's bodies can convincingly fake being individual people without slipping and revealing the truth.

>>49849 Based.

>>49696 The best thing to do in Sonic is hang with Sticks the Badger.

>>49833 Serving is highest calling. Closing the Eye of Terror and giving a middle finger to Chaos by reviving the Emperor is better. >>49843 >Pic Cmon Tovarich, it matters. It always matters.

>>49856 Look man, GW is obsessed with sucking Drukhari and Nagashi cock. This doesn't take away from the super based God Emp- King Sigmar(Who actually has a Warhammer).

>>49845 I think the idea is that it provides a point of comparison. If we assume the value of humanity is our accomplishments, and our accomplishments are limited to our own planet, then by making our planet feel small by putting it in perspective makes the sum-total of all human accomplishment feel similarly tiny. I'm not saying that isn't stupid, but it's my best guess of the logic behind it. >>49858 Sounds like sour grapes to me. >>49847 It will include a cat that you can choose the name for.

>>49858 Life only exists to avoid death. If Death was the sole purpose of life we'd be amoeba's that experienced a second of life then died. All natural instincts involve avoiding death because an organisms natural state is to live, and try to never die. The entire game of nature reproduction, and evolution is for life forms like us who understand we will never be able to avoid death to find a way to survive(even if as genetic information) in the form of the future creature that will not die.

>>49876 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy

>>49846 >>49851 Actually wait, by virtue of Dante not showing up for the climax of Bayo 3, doesn't the game do that by itself, or at the very least say 'my MC is better than yours'?

>>49879 There's a reason you'll never see any based character, mythological, or historical figure say that death is cringe and immortality is cool.

>>49830 Generic Sugerbowl, your entire job there is theoretically just be happy and have a good time and maybe learn the occasional aesop aimed at teaching morals to children.

>>49881 What about Sun Wukong?

>>49881 Because modern sensibilities and historic/mythological sensibilities are different by virtue of the passage of time being a thing?

>>49878 Do you have to?

>>49883 You mean the guy who was an arrogant upstart who needed to be sealed under a mountain and then made the ultimate rejection of life by becoming a Buddha and rejecting existence itself?

>>49880 Kamiya flat out said Bayonetta is stronger than Dante so...yeah. He is not a subtle man.

>>49887 >Kamiya I thought this said Kanye

>>49869 Nice, I'm thinking of those two and the kingdom of glory authority and the potential shenanigans that can be gotten up to like that, effectively being a sort of super-summoner via authority synergy. One question though, does the ride of the valkyrie's authority actually start with any einherjar, a copy of Brynhildr perhaps (maybe the f/go version)? Because I'm looking at it and it's pretty good but on its own it doesn't appear to actually have any initial 'fighting strength' so to speak.

>>49881 Because we are mortal creatures driven to continue living, so we must make peace with the inevitability of our deaths however we can.

>>49845 Because forces beyond your control decide the entirety of the cosmos, and to those forces you are entirely irrelevant. Nothing truly matters in this universe, but if the star your planet orbits goes supernova for any number of reasons you cannot understand, everything you cherish goes with it. In the face of that, the fact that unlike with essentially everything else we know about our planet, there is no ability to cope with cosmic forces, prepare for them, bargain, or even do the most basic things: Survive. This inevitably leads to the conclusion that nothing you do truly matters because it is all in the pursuit of this preservation. Even if you contribute to a perfect human civilization it cannot stop your star from exploding. If you can then you cannot stop your galaxy from colliding with another. If you can you cannot stop the fact of Entropy. It's like the GOT parable about the soldier in a room with kings and mercenaries the value of whatever is being discussed is dependent on your ability to keep it, or ensure it isn't destroyed. When you have no ability to do so, everything you have done in trying to preserve your happiness, love, and life means nothing, and you have to accept that the preservation of these things is a worthless gamble that you cannot be sure of winning. In the end whatever is being discussed(in this case your life) only has value as long as it exists, and you must abandon every other motivation for living. This is something that most people are unwilling to do, accept, or find horrifying simply because almost all of our learned societal values are things that we are told we need to work to preserve. Knowing that they will never be permanent, that nothing you care for will exist after you're gone means that idea of "lineage", or belief in having a part of yourself live on in the world is completely impossible. Thus the despair, because you will disappear with time, and no one will ever know you existed.

>>49887 He also said Dante is a universe buster. So by scaling, Bayonetta must be a multiverse buster.

>>49890 Could you just delete them please? I'm not there to read about idiots preaching how great death is.

>>49891 The true meaning of life is to expand your physical mass until you have a bigger gravity well than the sun.

Drawback Fluffed. >Despicable Reputation (+100): Tyrant, womanizer, reckless fool, or whatever else they may call you but in some way you’ve managed to garner a nasty image that never fails to be brought up. No matter what you do this unsavory image of yours will find a way to be relevant from others knowing you as a brutal warlord to the default assumption when you’re around a girl be that you want to ravish her. Even your allies often play into this both legitimately and as a joke, although they often at least make you sound bad in a rather impressive way if they can; only jumper could cause a massive clusterfuck, blow up a national monument, and seduce his girlfriend’s younger sister all within the same day; or Godou.

>>49894 >The true meaning of life is big chungus We've come full circle.

>>49885 If you disagree you can always just die. But your ancestors have left you with the genetics to ensure that you will not do so easily without passing on their information, so that's most likely a bust unless life is fucking you so hard that you have nothing else to lose.

>>49889 >One question though, does the ride of the valkyrie's authority actually start with any einherjar, a copy of Brynhildr perhaps (maybe the f/go version)? It does not, you're going to need to get some allies to swear themselves to you or start stabbing someone useful.

>>49897 Every civilized nation is currently suffering a birth crisis.

>>49899 Because their populations have gotten intelligent enough to understand the inherent stupidity of having children in anything but the most ideal conditions, which half the populations of these countries will never achieve.

>>49899 Brought on by largely unnatural causes.

>>49900 Nta but all you're really saying is that life has no meaning, which is a performative contradiction to espouse if you do anything instead of just sitting still like a rock.

What is the population of your jumper's artificial planetoid?

>>49902 Two things can be true at once. Life inherently having no meaning except "don't die" doesn't mean that YOU have no meaning. As a thinking creature it's up to you to decide what that is, or what reason you have to not die as soon as you think that thought. Whether that's fear of death, your genetics not allowing you to just painlessly kill yourself, or a genuine love for something in life that you wish to experience all throughout it. Having no meaning also doesn't mean that you can't be motivated by an avoidance of pain, which is basically the meta for all life on Earth. Pain and suffering is like a leash that can be pulled to stop a dog from mauling someone when it gets excited, in this case you feel bad whenever you think of death, so you won't do that as often, or even try to approach it if you have no real familiarity with near death experiences(even then that might just cause you to avoid possible suffering and death even harder).

>>49903 Loli cultivators. They didn't used to be lolis or cultivators, but it turns out that you get a lot of old men willing to be turned into little girls if you offer eternal youth to people in xianxia worlds

>>49904 >As a thinking creature it's up to you to decide what that is This is just cope. If you have to come up with the meaning it's not a real meaning.

>>49906 By that logic nothing has a meaning. Everything is an interpretation of behavior and phenomena that humans came up with.

>>49907 Nihilists when I run over their pet dog and splatter their corpse across the road (they care about things now for some reason)

>>49907 Bro, if that's your worldview then I'm here to tell you it doesn't have a meaning.

>>49907 You're implying that there isn't obvious inherent meaning to life as instilled by the omnipotent creator.

>>49905 Friendly reminder that there's an alchemist who unironically makes this their gimmick in Battle Through The Heavens.

>>49906 I suppose if you're a small minded person who needs consent from your surroundings to have the bravery to live, this makes sense. Otherwise, for adult human beings with fully formed minds, their reasons are good enough, and that's all that is required. If you're so cowardly that you need reality to justify your existence then you already know the truth about what you would do if given the freedom and lack of people judging you after you do it.

>>49911 Wait, really? Neat.

>>49910 The creator that we came up with?

>>49914 You exist because of Him, not the other way around.

>>49913 Well, kinda sorta. It was just their means of disguise, but they were a cultivator who appeared to be a loli and was doing so very intentionally and to their own overall enjoyment.

>>49907 Also just to add, by that logic, anything that is the result of a line of code isn't real because someone made it up. Coding languages aren't real either, someone made it up. God isn't real either, someone made it up. We can go on and on as long as we like, fact is, if a human being decides something is real, and decides to make it real, as long as it isn't too far out of their capabilities it will be real. For something as totally within our control as our own mind, even that caveat doesn't exist, if you decide to live because you find meaning in suffering, you will. If you don't, you won't.

>>49912 Nice emotion based argument there, pal. It doesn't give your life actual objective meaning.

>>49916 Ahh. That's less interesting but still nice to know. I'm making my loli sect so I'll have a massive quantity of obsessively loyal loli babas that'll do my every bidding

>>49917 >God isn't real either, someone made it up. I agree.

>>49858 I suppose in a strictly biological sense, there is an argument to be made that all the traits we use to define "life" are created as a response to the threat of death: pain, pleasure, the senses, food, sex, community, love, hate, reproduction, consciousness, etc. All serve some specific utility in helping us avoid extinction. If you created an immortal organism devoid of any traits developed as a response to the threat of death, you'd just be left with an inanimate thing unable to think, feel, move, or change in any way that matters. None of this means that a human who can't die suddenly stops being alive. I just think it's interesting to think that from a certain perspective, the true pinnacle of all life is rocks. >>49891 In other words, it only makes sense if you refuse to consider that importance is relative? Like, if your baseline for what it takes for something to be significant is "can control every force and phenomenon that could ever potentially act upon it" then you only have yourself to blame for using such an arbitrary metric.

>>49906 Why? What determines the difference between 'real meaning' and a not 'real meaning'.

>>49922 See, if that anon says its real, then its fine. But if he says it isn't real, then its bad and cringe and you're just delusional and coping. Understand now?

>>49832 >And the end result was the first two "merely" got onscreened after defeating him It was really only the first one It was only really Bayo who got onscreened while Luka-SAMA made Singularly job the moment he showed up and protect Bayo from the demons incase they thought of doing anything to HIS wife.

>>49602 >I've personally always thought the whole thing was meant to specifically fuck over people, since every Grail War we see directly screws over literally everyone who fights in them They literally used Fafnir's cursed gold as one of the components to the greater grail. Of course it's going to fuck everyone over.

>>49922 Objectivity. Meaning is purpose. A chair's "meaning" is for people to sit on it. It was instilled that purpose by people. Likewise, people and the universe we exist in were instilled a purpose by God. If you say you don't believe in God that's fine, it just means you don't believe in any meaning to people or the universe.

>>49918 Life having objective meaning is something slaves need. Real people decide on their own.

>>49919 Honestly I couldn't see that sort of thing working out without perk support given that outside of an MC's clique it's nigh on impossible to find a cultivator who won't go full scorpion on a frog and backstab their best prospect just because they can.

>>49921 I would say more that whatever has the most sway on the circumstances you find yourself is the most important. Fundamental laws like gravity and entropy decide the fact that you exist. Your entire life is based on these forces. Using relativity in this case is like in many others, ignoring the most basic and easily seen truth to dickride the egotism of being the center of the world because you put yourself in a circular room full of mirrors.

>>49928 Most Cultivators are genuinely cattle. They put up with the kind of bullshit you can't even begin to think of just because someone sold them a high reaching ideal. I remember a MTL where some dude literally killed his own son for his wife's kid just because he believed it would make his empire/sect better since he had better talent/mentality. They literally accept getting cucked and dominated by Sects that use them for slave labor forever by the billions.

>>49928 Nah, weak people being absurdly loyal to their sects if shown even a bit of kindness is also a rather common trope too. It's just the prodigal ones that become traitors I'm specifically going out of my way to recruit the old failed cultivators, the ones that tried their best to become immortals but didn't quite manage it and are at the point of their lives where they're incredibly desperate to find some way to preserve their lives. The ones that know they're absolute trash too, who'll be absurdly grateful for the chance I've given them

>>49745 And then they fall into a Dark Side Nexus and get corrupted. But instead of turning into a raving lunatic they just develop basic empathy and stop being a sociopath.

>>49926 it's fine if god made the universe for a specific purpose but that still leaves god himself without a purpose.

>>49456 Only now am I conceiving of a Kuro whose class card that she's stabilizing herself with is from a servant like Mata Hari, Kiara, or Draco.

How did we get to here from people saying that dying for some skeleton on a pile of gold made them happy?

>>49931 >Some people would rather die than become a false Immortal who belongs to someone else. Others, in order to avoid death, will pay any price.

>>49936 More people in xianxia settings are willing to become adorable immortal little girls than are willing to risk dying before becoming immortal. I get more people turning me down because they don't want to give up on their little brother, even if he has been a lazy thing that hasn't done anything in decades at that point

>>49937 The problem is that you're looking at an exceedingly small cross-section of people who would both be willing to basically drop everything they were doing to hang out with your crew but also not do that a second time the second they register a bit flipping from 0 to 1 on the green setting for their RGB settings.

>>49905 Good taste. it tales a man to be best girl.