>>97 I posted a picture with the OP, but it just got silently deleted. What a bunch of baloney

>>97 >current disto? macOS for stuff that doesn't play nice on WINE + Mint for everything else, including games. Sometimes I try others in VM out of boredom. >first distro? Mint or Ubuntu, I don't remember. >favorite package manager? brew (macOS) and APT. I found APT simpler to use than RPM and Pacman, and Debian-based distros better than Arch, Fedora, Gentoo, Void, etc. >How'd you find out about linux? Blogs talking about how Linux can magically bring old PCs to life (it does, but only to a certain degree). >Do you use Windows too? Nope. I abandoned it when w8 came out and never looked bad. Seeing w11 look like a mix of KDE and Deepin while still having decades worth of inconsistency makes me chuckle.

>current distro Mint. I'm quite happy with it. The only big issue is out of date packages, but that's not something the Mint team can control, since they get their packages from Ubuntu LTS I believe. >first distro Zorin. Kind of obscure, but I heard it was made for people used to windows, so I tried it as my first. >favorite package manager dnf definitely. It's got so many nice features, and output is easy to read, and the syntax is simple. >How'd you find out about linux I randomly saw a video from Spatry's cup of Linux (I think that's what it was called) on Youtube and checked it out. His vid made me interested, so I went to check out what this linux thing was myself. >Do you use Windows too? Not since I started using Linux no. I switched completely, and don't regret it at all.

>>97 I run a Win10 Pro + Kubuntu LTS dual boot. I study CS and I need to work with linux software regularly, the stuff we use is often easy to install in Ubuntu based distros and hard to set up in other distros. So I picked Kubuntu cuz I'm not a fan of Gnome and I like the software and tools that come with KDE. But I'm not happy with it to be honest, stuff breaks all the time, different services stop working randomly, basic components like the KDE login manager crashes all the time which is super annoying. Even if the login manager doesn't break I need to use the terminal to shutdown as it takes a few min otherwise, no idea why but it's sometimes waiting ages for some process to end. Not sure why that shit doesn't get fixed, couldn't really find people with similar problems online for some reason, it's not even just one fucked install as I tried it on multiple computers in different versions. (people suggested just installing KDE in Ubuntu but I couldn't try that yet) Win10 is dog shit too. At first I liked it (after turning off all the cancer) but it's so fucking annoying, constantly nagging and updates often break shit or reset my configuration. Not to mention that they constantly add dumb shit instead of fixing bugs, who the fuck asked for that broken weather shit app in the taskbar? Yeah so if you ask me everything suck.

>>124 KDE being unstable and breaking all the time is exactly why I switched to Gnome and never looked back. It's a different workflow than what you might be used to, but once you understand how you're supposed to use it, it makes sense why a lot of the things in gnome are the way they are. I'd recommend you give it a go now that Gnome 40 recently came out. I don't know if that's in Ubuntu yet though.

I use linux for peace of mind, and because it is much more interesting than windows. > current distro? i am using gentoo but i use whonix in a virtual machine for deepweb and some clearnet browsing. I will also sometimes virtualize windows for web browsing. currently working on creating a windows gaming vm. > first distro? ubuntu (great distro) > favorite package manager? I think pacman is amazing, but i have also fallen in love with portage > how did I find out about linux? youtubers such as mental outlaw and luke smith. > do you use windows? yeah for gaming. and sometimes genreal web browsing. but i run linux as my main OS

>>140 >using Gentoo >(I assume) unironically I always heard that Gentoo was just a thing you installed to prove that you understand enough about linux to do it. Doesn't having to compile all your software over and over again get very annoying and taxing on your computer? I get that USE flags add a lot of customization opportunities but is that enough to make it worth it?

All Linux has ever been good for is wasting your time as you install it so that you can brag to your fellow autism welfare recipients that you use Linux, then you emulate Windows when you actually want to do anything because Linux is shit.

>>142 So you're comfortable using Windows, knowing all the bullshit telemetry that Microsoft has crammed in there? I've only had a major issue with linux (that wasn't my fault) once, and that was years ago. Also, simply using Linux isn't really bragging rights anymore, given that Mint and distros like it are about as easy to use as Windows now. What were your issues with Linux that gave you such a harsh opinion about it?

>>143 I use Windows 7 and gutted most of it, never 'upgraded' past sp1 and did whatever telemetry removal I could find that was known to be possible. But mostly to reduce bloat because privacy is impossible and the government will find out whatever they want if they care. I just want my video games to have to compete with less system resource use. >simply using Linux isn't really bragging rights anymore It never was, but Linux users never shut up about it to this day. >What were your issues with Linux That I have no incentive to use it. In addition that other than bragging about using it and desperately trying to make it run things Windows 7 does out of the box, have features Windows 7 has out of the box, or stitching together enough ghetto rigged shit to make whatever super specific retarded hack you need for whatever reason - I've never actually seen any reason to use it put forward. I mean other than the security thing since that is a meme from back when people were still naive enough to think any form of privacy is possible. No one could possibly still be that naive, so don't bother shilling it at me.

>>181 You sound pretty blackpilled on privacy, and also misunderstanding the goal. The goal for most isn't to make it so that the government can't violate your privacy. It's just to make it difficult enough that they don't care about you specifically anymore. You just don't wanna be the low-hanging fruit, that's all. Also, eventually Windows 7 will lose support from everyone. Linux won't, so unless you plan on moving to Windows 11, I'd start taking a closer look at some of the more Windows user friendly distros like Mint, at least as a contingency.

>>97 >current distro arch btw >first distro Puppy linux but before I was using macOS snow leopard >favorite package manager pacman by far. It's so simple and intuitive so I like it a lot >how'd you find out about linux? I was looking for games to play and I saw a penguin and wanted to know more about what the penguin logo was >Do you use windows too? no aside from sometimes running it in a virtualbox for fun

>>183 >Thinks he can make it difficult for the panopticon kek >will lose support What is that supposed to mean? What support do I need? None. You can hack on recent hardware drivers to use up to date mobo with up to date hardware atm and I've been using years old hardware as it is to play literally everything. If Win 7 stops being enough I'll just quit using computers past that line in the sand. Linux is useless to me.

>current distro Linux Mint on pc and MX Linux on laptop. >first distro Linux Mint. I've tried Ubuntu years ago but didn't like it. >favorite package manager apt, haven't used any others. >how'd you find out about linux? tech related youtube channels and some videos about thinkpads >Do you use windows too? No. I'm done with it. I'm happy with Linux. Everything works fine, it's easy to use and lightweight. There's no reason to go back.

>>193 Sounds like you're a newbie. You don't ever need to, but I'd recommend that once you feel confident with Mint, you should branch out a bit and check out some other distros to see how they work differently. You might find one that you end up liking better. I've tried all the popular distros and some less popular ones before I finally decided which one I'd stick with for now, and I don't regret it. Particularly, it might help if you think about what you don't like about Mint, and see if there are any other distros that don't have that issue.

>>193 Unless you ever want to play video games again, then you will be emulating it immediately because Linux can't do it by itself.

>>196 proton's pretty good now. Outside of games with strict DRM (which you shouldn't buy anyway because DRM is shit) it's actually not much of a hurdle anymore.

>>197 >Just don't play 90% of games that exist >It's barely even an imposition if you pretend that you only want to play games with no DRM And I don't know what proton is, another cringy one word name for some bullshit that's a roundabout way of emulating Windows anyway, like always?

>>198 >90% of games have kernel level DRM You're clearly misrepresenting what I'm saying. There's not point in explaining it to you if you're gonna do that.

>>201 It's okay Fren. Not everyone can appreciate how much better Linux has gotten in the past 10 years. Some people still think the height of Linux is Slackware and Red Hat OS. >>124 I've heard a lot about the Win10 autoupdates breaking shit. It sounds so annoying. The last "good" Windows was 7 and the best for its time was definitely XP. After that, it just started going downhill.

>>97 >25% I thought it was much higher honestly. maybe back in the day when about half of /v/ would say something like "I just kept using windows 7 lol" but I don't think there are any anons unironically like that any more.

>>230 >that vid >25% Yeah that was a conservative guess. I said "at least" because I honestly think it's higher than that. I would wager that for the whole site it's around 60% using Linux at least some times. For /v/ specifically probably about 35%, and for /t/ around 80%. Those are my best guesses anyway.

>>232 yeah that sounds about right >80% /t/ where are my bsd bros at?

>>233 honestly I was including them accidentally. In my mind, I sort of think of BSD as just Linux but more okay with getting cucked by corporations. Bit of a hot take there. Of course, I know that there's more to BSD than just the license difference, but that's honestly enough to remove any desire I have to give it a serious try. I don't think it's a coincidence that Linux is being actively developed by many different corporations, while BSD is being used by them, but mostly left behind by the proprietary forks the companies make. Sure they merge some of their changes back into the opensource version, but probably not the very useful parts. So the BSDs keep trucking along, but just not at the same pace as Linux does. I'd love to see them change their mind and go all copyleft, because besides the license differences, I kinda like the way the BSDs do things. That's probably never gonna happen though, so oh well. At least we got Gentoo and Funtoo. Anyway that rant came out of nowhere my bad. BSD is still way better than Windows or MacOS because it's at least opensource in some way.

>>330 epic meme my fellow linuxer

>>140 Something that I don't see talked about as much as other stuff with Linux is how convenient updating software is. Instead of every application needing its own updating mechanism that usually just insecurely downloads and replaces files from some server, everything is handled by the repositories and package managers for your distro, and it's usually secured with gpg encryption. Very nice and simple.

I used a combo of Rocky, Mint, and Proxmox although I've been tinkering with the thought of using Manjaro as my desktop OS. Manjaro is for the lab and Proxmox is my hypervisor. I find it's comfy as messing about in my lab. I still use Windows for gaymes though. I've never been able to get GPU passthrough to work properly.

>>470 >rocky I heard about that recently. It's the new RPM analog to Debian Stable right? I've been thinking about trying that one to see if it might be a good fit for my uncle. He just uses his computer to browse the web so I want something that's low maintenance. >>125 Yeah I recall KDE being very buggy back when I used it too. I think it was plasma 5 when I tried it. Not sure what it's on now.

>>472 It's a replacement for CentOS, which has been moved upstream of redhat. The fuckers at Redhat moved it upstream, so you get the bugs first. I'm a helpdesk tech in a Windows environment, trying to get the fuck out of the desk and the fuck off Windows, so learning redhat administration in my free time should help with that. A bug for bug downstream copy of redhat helps, plus it's stable enough for prod. Not that I care, there's like 5 people that use services that I host.

>>480 I just looked into it. It looks like CentOS is now downstream of Fedora but upstream of Redhat. Weird position to be in. It's not up to date with all the cutting edge software, but it also isn't super LTS like debian. It's kinda like the non-LTS releases of Ubuntu or something like that. >>116 >Mint my first distro too, and still the one I recommend to people coming from Windows. It's very beginner friendly, while still letting you do most of the normal poweruser stuff that Linux is somewhat known for if you want to.

>>97 Found Linux through /tech/ boards. OS hopper ever since. At first it was fun. After a few years; now I am settled. Just kidding ɷ◡ɷ. I'll probably switch to another systemd-less OS by next year. Once I get a new hard drive as a testbed. >Do you use Windows too? For my needs, no. I don't plan on installing Windows for a while. Maybe never again ヽ(°〇°)ﾉ. The hierarchy for next OS goes Hackintosh > BSD > Amiga > anything else. >>116 >Zorin Hey me too. Maybe Zorin is more common than you think. It's what I used to play video games.

Been rocking it since around 2017. Good shit really. It's kinda surprising that Windows still has the dominance that it does when Linux work just fine for pretty much everything unless you're a gamer, and even that's getting better by the year.

>>527 >systemd-less As a casual Linux user, I've heard about this whole debate a few times before, but I continue to fail to understand the issue with systemd. I barely noticed when most distros started using it and all of the little bit I did notice were positive things. Isn't unification something that Linux has been severely needing? Having everyone use a consistant init system means that we can all focus on making that init system very good instead of splitting efforts into a bunch of different solutions that aren't as good because they don't have the manpower behind them. But again, casual user. So maybe it isn't something someones like me should care about.

>>562 I'm not very knowledgable either, but as I understand it, it's because systemd keeps growing more complex and doing more and more different things which is against the unix philosophy of having separate programs doing different tasks. When the code becomes more complex it becomes difficult for people to audit the software and make sure it doesn't have any security issues etc. Having more modules also means you could swap out a part of it that has an issue or if you wanted to customize it for whatever reason. I think that's partly why Xorg became a big unmaintainable mess too.

>>562 >>905 >08/02/2021 >02/08/2022 checkin these dates

>>905 That's a actually a good point, but since systemD is easily the most popular init system, and the one used by all business oriented distos, I think you'll get more security by having the init system with all those eyes on it checking for vulnerabilities than you would from using a much less popular one that just has a smaller code size. Those companies have a lot of interest in ensuring that their init system is secure, after all. The modularity point is probably true though.

>>907 Xorg and Windows have a lot of people and money in it, but they're both big enough to be really hard to understand and even experts usually only know the parts of it that they specialize in well.