/liberty/ - Liberty

Gold, Property Rights, and Physical Removal

Index Catalog Archive Bottom Refresh
Name
Options
Subject
Message

Max message length: 12000

files

Max file size: 32.00 MB

Total max file size: 50.00 MB

Max files: 5

Supported file types: GIF, JPG, PNG, WebM, OGG, and more

CAPTCHA
E-mail
Password

(used to delete files and posts)

Misc

Remember to follow the Rules

The backup domains are located at 8chan.se and 8chan.cc. TOR access can be found here, or you can access the TOR portal from the clearnet at Redchannit 3.0.

Uncommon Time Winter Stream

Interboard /christmas/ Event has Begun!
Come celebrate Christmas with us here


8chan.moe is a hobby project with no affiliation whatsoever to the administration of any other "8chan" site, past or present.

(96.14 KB 496x421 freakingthefuckout.jpg)

How can liberty effectively counter fear? Anonymous 09/08/2020 (Tue) 22:11:11 Id: 710072 No. 3681
9/11: overreact, Patriot Act and TSA. Iraq: overreact, torture and a decade in the ME. 2008: overreact, TARP and bailouts. COVID-19: overreact, movement passports, facemasks, and bailouts. I know the strategy of "Never let a crisis go to waste" is a classic statist strategy, but I feel like libertarians do not have a very effective counterstrategy to this. Every time libertarianism faces up against fear, fear wins, hands down, and its been consistently losing to this.
>>3681 Don't have a big country. They have to overreach to preserve their security, there is no alternative
(246.78 KB 1280x720 pSvH_flw5pg.jpg)

>How can liberty effectively counter fear? The short answer is that we shouldn't because it's a waste of time, it's wiser to focus on ourselves and to spend our energy trying to realize our own libertarian society, rather than focus on what statists are doing and to do nothing but react to the next big thing they're panicking about. We should leave behind state-critical libertarianism and preferably ignore statists completely, and engage in self-focused libertarianism instead: "We are all familiar with mainstream scholarship: the ideas, beliefs, and theories that form the rationale for contemporary mainstream society. Of course, corresponding to mainstream scholarship is mainstream society itself, the society in which these ideas, beliefs, and theories are put into action." "Unfortunately, in the libertarian world, we have no society, corresponding to our scholarship, in which our ideas, beliefs, and theories could be put into action. This fundamental asymmetry—mainstream scholarship/mainstream society; libertarian scholarship/no libertarian society—is libertarianism’s “elephant in the room.”" "Libertarianism has perhaps succeeded as a scholarship movement, but it has failed as a political movement." ... "The modern libertarian movement was founded by writers who objected to the laws of non-libertarian society. As there was no libertarian society to which they could emigrate, and as they were subjected to laws they found objectionable, their writings naturally focused on the legal theories and legal structure of non-libertarian society. Libertarian scholarship thus became largely a critique of non-libertarian society. The goal of libertarian scholarship became the liberalization of non-libertarian society. Though this was quite natural and understandable, in retrospect, the libertarian’s focus on non-libertarian theories and non-libertarian society may have been a costly diversion. Imagine, for a moment, if the most capable political minds in one country spent most of their effort theorizing about the politics of another country, or if the most capable thinkers of one religion spent most of their effort theorizing about the beliefs of another religion. What if the management of one company spent most of its effort criticizing the management of another company, or if the parents of one family spent most of their effort critiquing the parents of another family?" "To a significant degree, libertarian scholarship has been directed toward the theories and practices of mainstream society, rather than toward the goal of constructing a libertarian society in a polycentric social order. We have positioned ourselves not as leaders of our own social creed, but instead as critics of the non-libertarian social creed. We have expended a lot of time and energy trying to provide mainstream society with an improved social theory to guide their social actions. Meanwhile, we have neglected to construct a social theory to guide our own political actions in a non-libertarian world. Through libertarian scholarship, we have gained a thorough critique of mainstream society. But, we may have lost something more valuable: a society we could call our own." ... "What if we tried something different? What if instead of trying to establish libertarian relationships between non-libertarians, we focused all of our theoretical and physical energy on trying to establish libertarian relationships between libertarians? For example, what if we tried to “abolish” the legal minimum wage only between those of us who object to the notion of a legal minimum wage? What if a group of libertarians decided that in commercial dealings amongst themselves, they would institute the libertarian principle of voluntary agreement in deciding wages?" "What I have in mind is a polycentric social order in which non-libertarians have non-libertarian relationships, while libertarians have libertarian relationships. I am not proposing any changes at all in non-libertarian social institutions, laws, scholarship, or any other aspect of non-libertarian society. I am only suggesting that libertarians focus their efforts on establishing libertarian relationships between libertarians. I think that if this was our exclusive focus, we would have some chance at success." "How would we go about this? Where would we begin? What are the possibilities? What risks accompany the various possible strategies? This, in my opinion, should be the focus of libertarian scholarship. The most important question facing us as libertarians is this: How can we establish a nascent libertarian society in a polycentric social or legal order? How can we establish a society of libertarians, not only in the world of scholarship, but in the social, legal, and commercial world as well?" https://www.panarchy.org/knott/libertarianism.html


Forms
Delete
Report
Quick Reply