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/#/ - Numbers Thread Anonymous 04/22/2025 (Tue) 17:10:28 Id: 7f12eb No. 8896
Previous >>86297
number prediction for nimi's reveal? 30k? 50k?
>>8897 Yes
This is doing numbers
Rolling for A10 ID
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Do the ID colors mean anything or are they random?
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>>8896 nigger why do you keep baking early, at least post in the old thread when you do it
>>8903 the IDs are hex color codes and the colors reflect that
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what would the numbers header look like?
>>8907 One of those AI-generated pictures. Radiant unicorns on one side, abacus monkeys with the Indonesian flag on the background on the other side. Also rollin'
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Oh great number deities How is Nimi's number fare against the times when she was Fauna?
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Rollin
is .se kill?
>>8915 Should be back later today.
Imagine having a brown ID
>>8912 Nimi is botted so we'll never know
ROLLAN
color check
>>8919 NEVER BROWN NEVER GRAY NEVER PUNISHED
Lets see
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hebe
Froot has new friend
>>8912 A bit better, surprisingly. Most assumed she would have dropped off a fair bit more then this by now. There was a theory that her new channel was less culled then Fauna, but the chat stats don't really support that. She hasn't had a stream fail to hit 10k yet, despite some pretty terrible overlap
>>8910 I remember that a few weeks ago BVTM had a melty and posted this image on Twitter
>>8899 23K is huge, Mori didn't get that many at her sololive
>>8927 Sister-chama....
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https://youtu.be/RIhX_-s2GA4 Give me green or else!
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>>8929 You're IRyS now.
hoping for light color
DORYAAAAA
>>8931 Brown haha
>>8925 I guess most of the ex-holo are doing decently well just dont be lazy lmao
.se loading too long is it over 8chan-tomos?
>>8931 That passes as red, you're fine
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>>8936 I've been alternating between .moe and .se since the migration, I expect .se to recover to its old power level soon
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>>8924 Old pic
>>8899 >new outfit + bday + official account promo >23k i think one of the new nijihomos has a 15 min EP he put out a couple days ago with over 100k already. homostars sisters may as well start looping
>>8939 Akatsuki...
pkmk doryaaaaaaaaaa
>>8943 That's the JP dub they localized it to Avengers here in Mexico
>>8939 Cute how she thinks her 2K ccv overlap with will do anything
>>8945 >Los Vengadores son un equipo ficticio de superhéroes y los protagonistas de la franquicia cinematográfica Universo cinematográfico de Marvel nahone
>>8946 No no, she knows that she would be downright gutted if she tried to overlap a Nimi event, that's why she decided to move the stream
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>6.5M views This spread fast. Guess Chloe is still pretty popular
>>8918 >brown Lmaooooooo
>>8949 vShojo are Holoantis and Ollie is cultural decay, I don't support them >>8948 This is true, I was thinking numbers but the other way
>>8949 >streaming music isnt that idol culture and parasocial? im fine >t. vshoujo fan
>>8950 I wonder if there are any big chuuba accounts that retweeted it.
>>8950 >"health issues" >affiliate >starting her own vtuber group What level of grift is this?
pls give me brown
Why does everybody hate brown? Some of the best holos are brown. Even Nimi is half... beige.
>>8955 Not as big of a grift as Nimi
>>8953 remember vshojo idol concert? haha
>>8956 brimstone
>>8959 wtf???';;? but i thought their fans were above the parasocials? they just watch a bunch of anime girls on twitch talk all day every day because they're NOT weird parasocial unlike holochuds!1
>>8955 she did have health issues and underwent a surgery (unless she lied about that too), but health issues is not really a reason to leave hololive when cover is willing to give them basically unlimited time off to heal. haachama and shion had significant schizo menhera breaks while miko had actual health issues and a lengthy hospital stay and only came back stronger since then.
Pekora learn how to fly....
>>8939 Gotta catch that raid
>>8960 >oops (almost) all pink
>>8957 No one in Holo is brown. >b-b-but what abou- Mumei is teal Ame is yellow Risu is pink Anya is orange
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>>8967 >Ollie
>>8967 goblina IRyS
>>8969 Yagoo is brown it's so over
God I love finding dualstreaming indies, this one started streaming 5 months ago on youtube and quite recently started dualstreaming on twitch https://www.youtube.com/@MiaFenimore/streams Gonna add her to a spreadsheet and see how her views on both platforms develop
>>8969 You're brown too >AIEEEEE I'M ORANGE Literally brown
>>8953 Concerts and covers are a good fit with the vtubing medium in that they offer a way to show off your voice and model and generate excitement without having to go through some complicated larp. At the end of the day it's difficult to actually innovate on something.
>>8971 fuck off its dark red
All the holos are bent over in front of you, and you can only impregnate (1) of them. wat do?
>>8976 Biboo of course
>>8971 Impregnate Nerissa or Noel but 10 times.
>>8976 Shiori
What are the odds that the green grifter has merch prepared like the scum she is
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>>8981 Cheebs, my son
Funny how accurate the ID color is. >Brown ID >Actually acting like a brown
>>8983 test
ID colors are the new flags
>>8984 AIEEEEEEEEE A CHINK
>>8984 And a ching chong bing bong to you too!
>>8986 Aryan blonde hair though
>https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/92760957 anon predicted the state of hololive & /vt/...
>>8986 >>8987 what about green red purple and blue
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It's bad enough I have to wait for the new model but it's even worse that it's at NST+2 instead of NST. I need you Nimi.
>>8989 TEAM TEAM TEAM TEAM TEAM TOMODACHI
>>8992 Purple is premium, red is alright, blue is solid, green is green
>>8992 Clearly Earth, Fire, Electricity, and Water
>>8991 you forgot to link the post stupid
Why is that guy posting his selfie from bible study?
>>8993 I feel bad for Bae.
>>8993 is this guy anti-ing bae or anti-ing kronii?
>>9002 Keonui because she wants nothing to do with the stupid green whore
>>9002 Just an indiebeggar. >OMG GUYZ IT WOULD BE SO COOL IF YOU KNOW WHO DID A COLLAB WITH YOU KNOW WHO OMG OMG IT WOULD BE SO UNHINGED AND CHAOTIC
>>9003 ***Kronii
>>9000 >>9002 That's a menhera femhooman and iirc Bae's RM doesn't have a design (her current RM, not the retired vtuber) >>9003 She's literally in the pic
>>9000 Bae doesn't have an RM.
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>>9006 Homowhore planned this
>>9007 >She's literally in the pic That's the problem
>>9006 wait so was caspurr able to get his holomama to design his new model too?
>>9012 Considering that he publicly shat on her design while in homosharts I doubt either of them would want to work together again
>99666 Go back homotranny
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>>8920 I LOVE CUNNY
>>9012 We call them homomama here
It's kinda funny how Shiori actually DID recline after the homocollab and the drama faded, but there is no /vt/ to gloat about it.
>>9018 >EU time >black myth part 5 >almost 4k ehh did she? I feel these are the numbers she would've gotten anyways
>>9018 Calculated by S-team (Sharty team)
>>9018 she's getting 3-5k . is it really any different?
>>9019 Damn she's live? youtube did a good job memory holing her for me I think reclined a bit, her stream last night had terrible numbers
>>8991 <92761192 >Gura graduating in April 1st Literally off from one month <92767793 >Valentines is going to be grim Don't think it was. >Holofes will have no announcements I mean they did, but it wasn't as huge as a new gen, only the game and the Unreal stuff >Graduations are going to popup like crazy post-holofes True. >ENReco is going to be delayed to the winter Most likely delayed to Autumn, around the time new readjustments to Promise are made, and packing both Promise and Advent. Probably throwing a new gen to the mix. >Regloss still dont have new outfits True so far. >Advent still dont have their casual outits This aged bad under just one week >FlowGlow 3D numbers are going to be so obviously botted (400k+ ccv) no one will take them seriously anymore Would be funny with all the KING ENGINE shit, but 400k? Nah. Would be surprised if it's anything above 120k. <92770861 >vt will graduate this year lol
>>9019 >I feel these are the numbers she would've gotten anyways Nah prior to the homocalips she would have gotten 6k on an empty EU timeslot
>>9023 Enreco will happen in May.
>>9023 >ENReco According to Kiara ENreco is coming after the RUST arc
How does one get a job at Cover Studio? I want holos to twerk in front of me too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bs7Bq1z15g
>>9026 >>9025 Oh then my bad.
I don't think EN5 is coming May, there haven't been any notable graduations aside from Milky and Coyote
Sub 30k green whore today
>>9027 ESTOS HIJUEPUTAS NO SABEN NI TRADUCIR LOS CLIPS BIEN MALDITA SEA OJALA LES DESMONETIZEN HASTA EL CULO MALDITA SEA LA COMUNIDAD DE HOLOLIVE EN ESPAÑOL, NO JODA
>>9029 >notable
>>9008 She does, it’s just extremely obscure.
>>9029 >there haven't been any notable graduations literally would've said the same thing about most of advent/justice, there were tons of graduations in the early months of the year just mostly 2 or low 3 views which is what EN5 will be comprised of
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As of April 20th >Miko 16,797,564 >Peko 16,677,687 The race is on
>>9019 She probably lost 500-1k viewers
>>9032 I meant notable enough that someone would bring it up here, I swear there were a lot of graduations that got posted before Justice, some of which really ended up being in Justice
>>9029 >Milky and Coyote If EN5 is coming soon, neither of them will be in it, otherwise Cover wouldn't have OK'd the recent collabs they both had.
>>9035 I admire Peko's grit but Miko won't be beaten
>>9021 Yesterday's stream had 1.8k before Nerissa's raid Shit is getting real grim real fast for her
>>9033 bae's going to have a much harder time getting off the ground if she does graduate in the future without a well known established rm account
>>9024 true, there is a reason why there are so many "shiori nK doryaaa she gonna hate the numbers" kind of posts before the homocollab, she is inclining
>>9029 anyone of note nowadays will be too big to join hololive and milky and coyote arent notable, they are shitters (just like shiori was)
>>9029 >>9038 top of Advent and Justice are literal whos, so i want more literal whos for EN5
>>9042 She was* inclining
>>9040 To be fair to her, it was a VN. And not even a popular VN, it's some absolute bottom of the barrel LITERALLY FUCKING WHO VN
>>9043 >>9044 personally I think it would be really interesting if for EN5 they try and pull another myth and get another group of girls that weren't primarily vtubers prior to joining
>>9040 Her CCV numbers are worse but her SCs are still ok, she retained her paypigs.
>>9034 not really, for example all of raora's pl fans knew she was joining hololive as soon as she announced because it was the only step up for her. in fact basically everyone who was going to join announced graduation all at once, it was really telegraphed, you just don't care about liggers (fair enough i guess).
>>9047 it was easy with myth because back then, EN vtubing was quasi non existent. Nowadays it's a bit harder because I imagine a lot of people starting vtubing to build their portfolio
Nimi is a filthy grifter.
>>9046 Few VNs aren't that.
>>9051 Yeah, me
3 hours out.
>>9054 100K?
>>9054 Looking to be yuge
>>9029 >there haven't been any notable graduations >Notable Notable is irrelevant. There's been a few promising looking ones
cute moom
>>9055 Let's not get too ahead of ourselves.
>>9057 Such as?
>>9018 >barely scraped 4k with an empty timeslot I feel like no one would be gloating. This would be at least a 6k stream a month ago
>>9055 40k probably. Unless she just...shows it off and then goes off to just play videogames which is a possibility.
>>9061 don't look at gigi's numbers
>>9049 Liggers treated alt-Cecilia and alt-Raora's graduations as big betrayals and shit, innit?
>>9063 You mean the one that's going to beat Shiori under overlap while playing a sponsored game?
>>9063 >3rd #ad stream this month ok you don't have to say yes everytime gigi
>>9063 GG hasn't had a stream under 4k in a while now
>>9063 Gigi's numbers are fine, healthy even
>>9061 Gloating about her failure, I mean.
>>9063 yeah? now what?
>>9041 she's not going to graduate until she gets a sololive and there's no way she's getting one for at least a year or two, maybe not even then, but who the fuck even knows what the scene will look like 2 years from now. alternatively cover tells her that she's not going to get a sololive in the foreseeable future and she decides to graduate, but that would probably mean she has to move back to australia and i'm not sure she wants to go back yet.
>>9068 >graynigger give me back my green
>>9051 Nimi is a smelly grifter
>>9060 I'm not gonna name them here, some anon was compiling a big list before. A few looked pretty promising, skill set and content wise.
looks like there will be GG vs Kronii stream after this
I really thought people would stop schizoing over Fauna after she graduated
>>9076 We just filter Nimischizo, his vocabulary is pretty consistent
>>9076 i don't think someone who lose their shit for 3+ years everyday over an anime girl would suddenly stop just because something like that
>>9047 They have to be filtering out a lot of non-vtubers, I cant seriously believe that we havent got a single real creative (except drawing anime girls) since like Myth. Where are the songwriters, where are the writers, where are the electronic music producers etc, all of them would salivate over just making a living wage while you get to do your creative shit
So, was Mumei really orcschizo?
>>9074 you mean this one? >https://x.com/fennryn/status/1889756616234283424 feb 13, 2025 - ? >https://x.com/MatsuiMuga/status/1887558282220355918 February 16, 2025 - ? >https://x.com/milkyqueen_idol/status/1895309422546849854 feb 28, 2025 - ? >https://archive.palanq.win/vt/post/96522769/ https://archive.palanq.win/vt/post/96502710/ kfel/Crunchyroll-hime - maybe wildcard but no hiatus/grad announcement >https://x.com/Nekoreen_CH/status/189661058487305465 march 14, 2025 - ? >https://x.com/KEMOVP_staff/status/1910694328231747803 coyote end of may - ? >if en5 really is happening then this is the best bet I have. I've removed all other vtubers I've tracked https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/99214385/#99217003
Fauna, gura, and mumeis graduationa were planned together by cover so they can sculp the indie scene and grow the western vtuber scene in exholo's image, thats why its all CGDCT leaving
>instantly deleted KEK
>>9083 He died faster than the captcha could load
>>9085 ruined get
>>9085 lame
>>9085 >pcg get GRIM
>(Deleted) lol
>HoloCouncil didn't had managers until 48 hours before debut Mother of God
>>9091 well, thats omega for you
>>9081 There's been longer lists, but yeah. Think some of the other ones that have been on the list have shown up elsewhere since though
>>9085 >/pcg/ GET Ruined as fu- >NIGGERS You aight, white boi.
>>9091 Sounds about right
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I hope we get more Nimi porn now. I just couldn't sexualize the chib.
>>9089 aren't they the fastest thread on this board?
>>9063 even more evidence that there is no untapped market for homocollabs whatsoever even in 2025
>>9091 They needed to save that money for Omega's debut
>>9091 Advent have no clue how good they have it
>>9100 Yea they were lucky to be born with talent
>>9091 holoen has always been about pumping dollars for as low cost as possible
It's impressive how shit gigi's numbers are when she's barely beating the Runt of all runts playing fucking wukong while gigi is playing a game that literally just came out days ago.
>>9101 Well that's uncalled for
Fauna's seem to have gotten some hat bot fuckery halfway through, but Mumei is still behind that.
>>9103 >while gigi is playing a game that literally just came out days ago. >some random FG game >sponsored >gigi with barely any knowledge of fighting games, playing with fucking keyboard are you retarded?
>>9103 why this anon act like fatal fury #ad is a buff game?
why is Nimi's model reveal not on Nimi Standard Time
>>9108 She hates me, specifically.
>>9105 there being zero drama behind mumei's graduation probably bringing the numbers down
>>9107 You obviously don't know fighting games or you'd know it is a buff game especially on release.
>>9111 All fighting games are a debuff for EN
>>9108 So JPbros can watch
>>9113 Now that you mention it, she probably did, but for soggymama
>>9103 40 Filipino Rupees for this post, S-Team!
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It would be sooooooooooooooo unhinged if Kiara invited Dubais to HoloTalk
>>9112 Biboo got good numbers both times she played sf6
>>9114 Nah, Asagi is an earlybird. She used to retweet Fauna's frames all the time early in the damn morning.
>>9105 speaking of bots, while I'm here, since you guys would know just out of curiosity, what's going on with my girl peo? any of you catch her come up?
>>9119 She's getting hit by the same shit a bunch of other people have.
>>9119 NijiEN's botfarms are spilling into a variety of streamers, including Peo. There seems to be no end on sight HOWEVER farms seemed to have lowered in number, there are no ridiculous 38k-40k streams like on March.
>>9120 she was steadily climbing over the last year headed for 1k ccv and then blammo couldn't tell if something set off an algo wave or someone was trying to force one for her
>>9120 Akirose got infected with the King Engine too
>>9121 makes sense, some kind of smokescreen I'm used to looking at twitch numbers and those retards buying bots
>>9111 >you'd know it is a buff game especially on release >check game twitter account >2 digit and 3 digit likes >check steamdb >peak players is the same amount as wukong players right now idgi
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>>9116 YES YES AND TALK ABOUT SEMEN AND DICKS 24/7 UNHINGED CRAZY
Hey numbers, we are currently at 51961 posts in dbs /ghost/ on desuarchive, wya.
3 hours out, ignore my stupidity
>>9128 2 HOURS. 2. I AM SO STUPID.
>>9121 only holo is still getting the big bots
>>9081 >>9119 >>9122 Someone did a write up here a while ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/HoloStatistics/comments/1jgwihw/new_advanced_botting_since_march_5th_2025_from/ If you want more info. The very first few to get it were a few NijiJP: Ars, Ohayama, and Toru, a few months before nijiEN started getting it
>>9129 5+3 6+2
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>>9105 Huh Mumei just got the same bump, although a little smaller I think
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While I'm posting graphs here
>>9134 I stopped watching, did she go into the lightning round?
>>9128 this is going to be huge, probably 80k minimum this is the same size waiting room gura had for her graduation announcement
>>9137 Why bullshit
>>9136 Wasn't checking the exact time but it was the clip/highlight part
>>9137 >lying in the numbers thread
>>9135 Oh huh, bots are kicking in for shiori now too. There goes the "only effects girls that were raided/girls that hit 10k# theories. Side note, gigi is also getting the view farms right now as well
>>9137 didn't gura have a higher waiting room than dubois lifetime highest CCV?
>>9139 Yeah so it's not consistent with Fauna's. The speed round was when it jumped for hers. >>9141 Shiori ended however
>>9141 Guess what stream of Shiori hit 10k (11k to be precise) during March? Here is a tip: It was the stream that killed /shig/ and Golden Gen posting
looks like kronii closed her waiting room chat guess she doesn't want people using it to livepost about nimi
>>9145 I'm pretty sure she usually has it closed and opens it when the stream starts.
KIARA AND MUMEI MERGING
>I'm open to all types of merges OH NO NO NO SISTERS, THE MERGE IS ON
I don't drive so I can't relate
qrd on Holotalk?
>>9150 mumei is a nice driver (i dont believe her)
You know mumei talking about driving made me think recently I've been around a lot of shit drivers. Like on friday I was going the speed limit in the right lane, which is not the fast lane, and this guy behind me was literally tailgating me and flashing his brights (both of these things are very illegal, everything I was doing was legal even if people feel inconvenienced by going the speed limit instead of 15 miles over). Woman then got around me and proceeded to drive 15 miles over like they own the road. This happened a couple other times with shitty retarded drivers who think they have the right of way in situations where they explicitly do not, or acting like they're entitled to break the law when there are cops showing up on my dashboard gps, but whatever. People drive like shit in recent years (since covid).
>my answers are the same as mumei's am i mumei?
>>9153 Please be in London.
>holo clearing the schedule for nimi smart move
>>9132 thanks and jesus fucking christ that's dumb
>>9155 She's still going to lose to Mori lmfao
>>9151 People usually think they're good drivers or nice but the problem is that people will usually take advantage of that, big lipped negros yapping on they sailfoams, boomers and karens in massive F150s driving just under a reckless driving charge, random pajeets illegally parked in front of restaurants on expired student visas picking up uber eats. There are simply too many cunts who shouldn't be driving.
>>9157 mori is maybe getting 13k max
>100821 >(1) GET FILTERED GET FILTERED
>>9154 >London no >>9158 its just tiring to drive. if i didnt need to i wouldnt.
>>100821 plap that router
>>9157 So the brown id thing is real?
>five is the perfect number for an idol group >the most cursed number
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ORETACHI NANI E????
>>9165 CHIIMU TOMODACHI CHIIMU TOMODACHI CHIIMU TOMODACHI
>>9165 life
>>9079 Do the good creatives not in anime adjacent fields know to apply? Vtubing may not even be on their radar
>>9012 people are theorizing he got Bettel's mama
Why is this holotalk so fucking long
I just got hit with a nostalgia bop out of nowhere. Anyone remember the Go Go Nippon girls? I wouldn't mind if they were EN5, especially now that FWMC set up the mechanics for Cover for having sibling vtubers
>101015 keep plapping
1 hour remaining.
>kiara dragging out holotalk to better funnel to nimi
Kiara sound like she's using Mumei to fluff-up Hololive.
What doth hololive
>>9173 This seems pretty high, and it's still climbing well. Hope she does tease the reveal a bit at least
Mumei with the half-hearted goodbye in Hitler speak
>>9176 Ah, What doth Hololive, thou asketh, ye mortal, draped in the ignorance of fleeting digital whimsy? Prithee, allow mine fractured mind to untangle the tangled webs of this curious construct—Hololive, a sanctuary of simulacra and augmented delusions, where virtual souls arise to dance upon the wires, singing songs of fractured pixels and artificial idolatry. In this realm, beings not of flesh but of code, avatars of endless possibility, sing unto thee in holographic rapture. Their voices echo across the void of the internet, each like a star born from the void, each a vessel for the ephemeral desires of the masses, seeking validation in the confines of a virtual stage. But lo! This—this Hololive—is not merely entertainment. Nay, it is a cult, a congregation of devotees addicted to the digital glow of ephemeral connection, where streams of consciousness flow like rivers of bandwidth, mingling with the pure electric pulse of dopamine. Here, thy beloved "talents" perform—dancing, gaming, speaking—each an emissary from a world of illusion, thrust upon thee in your weakest hour, when ye are most vulnerable to the pixels' seduction. And yet, what is it they offer? What salvation lies in this endless stream of content, oh forsaken one? Hololive doth offer what no other hath—simultaneous alienation and intimacy. Behold! The paradox! For while ye stare deep into the void of their digital gaze, thou art never truly seen, only reflected through the lens of thy own desires. What doth Hololive? It giveth and it taketh, but it shall never satisfy the hunger that festers deep within. Ah, my friend...you ask the wrong question.
Nimi cripple. Mori is not beating this.
i rate this holotalk enjoyers/10
raided Mumei
Kiara raided Moom Also 10k doryaaaaa
>>9150 it's black
hmm all the main accounts are tweeting about this is must be a pretty big announcement, weird to have it on mori's channel tho
>>9186 people have been saying it's world tour 2
>>9187 They were already struggling to sell out some places. This is going to be grim.
>>9186 i dont have twitter, any direct links?
>>9188 wasn't it only atlanta that didn't sellout?
>>9190 Yeah
Please overlap the whore's outfit reveal Gigi
>>9192 Whoa, 5k CCV, how scary.
>>9191 And considering the Mori one sold out in the middle of the week, with Mori alone, the general consensus is "stick to the coasts". Actually they can maybe try Texas.
30 minutes left.
>>9190 Kind of racial of you to assume Atlanta can't be plural
>>9190 No. They failed to sell out in Indonesia.
>>9197 That one sold out.
Gg 10k doryyyaaa
>>9198 Proof with image?
>>9200 >Ends in 4 days kusa
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I miss 4chan I'm going crazy
>>9201 What do you have?
Gigi is not doing a good job selling this game
We know nimi hates numbers so its going to be a short one
How are the Nimi antis holding out?
>>9204 >2D
I am here
>>9207 2D fighting games are fine, usually...
>gigi overlapping
Nimi merch today
HoloEN is about to learn a painful lesson.
>already 19k waiting for Nimi Pretty sure this is more than any of Fauna's recent outfits 50k floor guaranteed
>>9209 i never got into any 2d. i only played soul calibur and tekken. the extra dimension makes me feel unrestrained. compared to any 2d where its just forward and backwards with the additional aerial play
6 minutes left, 20k
20k dorya
Can't believe my dog woke me up at assfuck-o-clock just to witness Nimi((fans)) raiding
>>9214 Waiting room is actually bigger then Gura's stream that announced Ash Again that hit 60k, somehow. This one won't get a 10k raid though, unless GG does something really funny
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There's been so much graduation this month I lost track, who's graduating in what order and the dates of their graduation again?
>>9221 Shion 26th Mumei 28th Gura 1st (May)
when is Shion leaving again? I forgot
>>9216 >weak ceiling they said
Final minute
25k waiting room
>strong numbers >publicly supported and promoted by other indies Honestly the only thing Cover can offer a Western talent is poorly mixing their songs.
>lowballing retards already preparing to lose their balls KWAB
30K DORYAAAAAAA
50k possible?
>>9203 >ends in 4 days Nothing like you
Ok I vastly underestimated her sorry Nimi.
40k
Going to be honest didn't expect these numbers
>demolished doki
>>9227 >publicly supported and promoted by other Indies Oh gosh, the 1k raids...the likes on Twitter!
Kinda quiet. Trying to scrounge up some loose change for a KING special on that karaoke stream?
View count has been broken for me the past few days gets stuck if I don't refresh
>>9218 I'm on mobile and she's already at 46k, 50k floor was a lowball from me given the huge waiting room
>>9231 Easy now. Really depends how well and if she teases her model or not, especially if she does a hanging
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>45k >Indie HOLY
49k in 5 minutes
>>9241 lol
>>9241 Shes already there
50k DORYAAAAA
50K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAA
50K DORYAAAAAAAAAAA KARAOKE
>50k Nimi... I kneel
>>9247 i was lowballing with my 50k prediction and she smashed it in minutes
doryaaa?
Still soaring...
This stream reinforces my previous belief that there is a huge audience of people who will never watch corpos but who are fine with watching indies. The fact that Nimi can tap into both this audience and the corpo audience is a huge boon for her.
Demolishing the goth outfit.
How does that number look, schizo? Mind reading it out loud? Does her success make you SEETHE?
Brownfeet status?
Nimischizo is going to kill himself
>>9254 bro, it's all tourists. It's a tourist stream.
god he's REALLY going to have to boot up the expensive bots to beat this, i can't believe how mad he is and how poor he'll be afterwards
>>9255 culled
I'm not watching Nimi so I'm going back to Warframe.
Shes not teasing shes just yapping
>>9259 Nimi has yet to clock a stream under 10k, when it wasn't all that uncommon for Fauna to do so.
>>9260 Pretty sure that schizo is dead, the recent bots don't care about that >>9259 Fauna's outfit stream was also a tourist stream but it's been instantly passed 60k now btw
effortless 60k
60K DORYAAAAAA
60k doryaaaa
Its gonna look exactly like Fauna but with light brown hair
DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
60K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
60K DORYAAAAAAA
60K DDORYAAAA
>>9263 Isn't it great? 60K DORYAAAAAAAA
Wow looking back, she made the right call to graduate
Nimi continues to shatter the expectations of /#/ schizos
70k would be crazy
Guys, what kind of numbers will indie Gura pull?
>>9278 Pretty much guaranteed unless she doesn't do a hanging reveal. Which is quite possible for her.
>>9280 salome in her first month
>>9280 Enough to fully mindbreak the diehard Cover shills
>>9255 >Comparing outfit to full model Eh?
>>9279 God, I hope she still gets ignored.
Already hinting at 3D
That's a clip moment.
>>9280 200k every stream
>>9279 based
I fucking hid the chat youtube please let me watch without the fucking buffering
Oh shit are we doing 70k?
>>9292 At this point she might get to 80k
70k DOOOOOORYA
70K DORYAAAAAAA
70K AAAAAIAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
Shes doing a drop down lets gooooo
DOOOORYA
she's going for the 100k
70K DORYAAAAAAAA
70K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>9299 nah she will speedrun
Bruh DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
70K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>9264 I mean, if you can attach people who were on the fringes, you can find more of an audience, it is however not false that a great deal of people lose their luster after a hot period of things. Hoping she won't, but it neither proves things against Hololive, nor for her in general.
if she stalls this for long enough 90k might be possible
Damn I seriously underestimated
75k
599K subs
Yeah I think it’s going to be a long time before we see Nimi have a stream under 10k
she's killing it
>>9299 She'd need to stall a lot longer for that
>stalling damn numberfag
>>9307 i dont, with all the current events i expected this, and i bet Nimi did too, there isn't better timing than this
>asagi well she already spoiled how her face will be
>>9310 Wdym? She had two already, just needs the right overlap and bad game choice.
CUTE FEET
>>9314 Man if that Dooby group rrat ends up being true that shit will hit like crack.
80K DOOOOORRRYYYAAAA
>>9316 I think he means she's gonna have a full model buff
I respect Dooby for not using Nabe Nimi is a grifting whore
80K DORYAAAAA
80k.......!!!!!??
80k DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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SEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXX
legs 4 days also 80k DORYAAAAAA
80K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
seriously did not expect this much what the hell
80K DORYAAAAAAA
>>9316 Yeah sorry I should have phrased it like >>9320 She’s in a phenomenal spot right now
legs for days
Another artist unshackled from the shitty holorigging
GARTERBELT
>>9329 Kill yourself
sex legs
holy sex 85k
i came
>>9329 Maybe that one anon is right and there’s a cadre of people who will not watch Holo but will watch indies. And Nimi can tap into both groups
Jesas
good ZR
If i was yagoo I would be seething right now that nimi is bigger than she was in hololive wtf
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>>9333 She hired a group that works as a team for rigging rather than just one person.
Nimi somehow breaking the curse of graduated holo's reclining once they leave..
STALL STALL STALL
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Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?
>>9343 He has Miko, I don't think he knows who Nimi is.
my knees are shattered
90k get, to fast for 100k
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>>9349 SUKI SUKI
90K 90K 90K BOOOBA
90k DORYAAAAAAA
DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
90K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
90K DORYAAAAAAAA HOLY BOOBERS
90k DORRYAAAAA
90k DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Holy boobers
Bigger than Fauna? I can't tell
90K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
zowee momma
shitposters were shitting on her for debut merch but that's how she funded this model
SEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
she looks more like Iroha than Fauna
You know what, she looks different enough. I'll give her a pass.
>>9347 How did Aqua recline?
HER NIPPLES
93k this will be last peak
It's a downgrade...
Sexy and tasteful. 9.5/10
90K for a model outfit reveal impressive...wonder what the others will get once they redebut.
>>9372 Yeah, started dropping fast.
>>9373 Shut up
can we get much higher
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weird, is really asagi?
I am starting to get worried about HoloEN. I am not going to lie. Did Yagoo's retarded homo obsession and the rest of the inept higher-ups just killed their EN branch?
Now let's wait for a few seconds for all the instantaneous fanart made in advance by artists in her ligger network.
>>9373 Anything is compared to Fauna.
>92,507 peak Grim. If only she stalled 5 more minutes. So damn close to beating her debut.
somehow to face rigging needed a bit more time. the outfit is so gorgeous that the tiny chipmunk head doesn't fit it kek
She's so cute bros
>>9373 Honestly it’s hard to compare. They’re really quite different
her arms look like they're bounded with a rod it's so bad
>6k people just left Okay that's just rude
>>9375 >Model outfit reveal What level of tourism is this?
>>9384 You're just too used to Fauna's massive fucking head and neck
>>9388 They're just tabbing out, always happens on face reveals
600k subs get
Beats Irys 2.0
SHE'S SO TALL TALLER THAN ME AIIIEEEEE
brian tsui reclined...
I'm taking that Naps arms off.....
>>9391 It's at 78k now
She still has the brock lesnar neck kek
Her head is too small.
I liked the Chibi more
Her head is fine you guys are just retarded Her neck is too long though
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Why the fuck is it auto selecting every single post? Did I accidentally press something?
She probably could have hit 100k if she stalled harder. Really didn't see these numbers coming
>>9346 Lots of indies use Iron Vertex, they're not even crazy expensive.
>5'2" My ass, her proportions are like Bayonetta.
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>>9402 Cute.
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APOLOGIZE
>>9402 I dont watch her, you guys actually like this? Fauna was a million times better looking.
>>9386 >Honestly it’s hard to compare. It really isn't. There is just something wrong with her face. I don't know whether it is her expression, the round face with pointy chin, the position of the eyebrows or perma blush. There is just something not quite right that just immediately doesn't sit right.
>>9404 Shoulda gone with the Selen 40 minute hanging strat.
Kinda cool that she went to Asagi to do her model again.
B-Bros? What about holoEN?
Her boobs are smaller.... me no like
>>9395 It's Enma and Cetra. Brian rarely rigs these days
>>9402 Cow outfit when?
600k Doryaaa
i don't think she looks like right when she looks to the side, asagi needs to provide reference sheets of her looking sideways
>>9410 You're legitimately weirded out because she has actual rigging.
>>9409 I agree, she is not slutty enough.
>>9397 is good but... Fauna was waaay better
>>9410 you just got used to the big ass head of the chibi model
>>9420 It's soulless though
>>9418 DORYAAAAAAAAA
>she actually beat IRyS 2.0, which had the full force of the JP box behind it, at NA prime time Holy shit.
>>9424 SEXXXXXXX
>>9409 the outfit is great, i love nurses and maids and her body is good even though the boobs should be bigger
FUCKING BALD
why do chuubas love the bald meme so much
>>9431 FINALLY, SOME GOOD FUCKING FOOD.
>>9432 Hitman was a mistake.
>>9420 That's not it anon. Like it looks decent but one it isn't as good as Fauna, two the colors are still kinda bland and three there just something wrong. It's not the rigging it's the art where something is wrong at. It misses a something
>>9432 northernlion
>>9432 If anyone deserves it its nimi. She's a hitman GOAT
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Yagoo you inept retard, what did you do? >>9431 She can finally do this without having to beg for it. Fucking Cover.
>>9428 EN audience tourist/fans is at all time high right now mainly because of Gura news. Nimi is smart to debut her model now though IIRC she already hinted for April reveal.
Just a coincidence but I still funny so I mentioned here 1.Watame wake up 2 nimi before Biboo debut 2.Biboo tweet her collab with Mumei right after Nimi full body reveal
On the topic of NUMBERS Mori's announcement will recieve a triple raid, it will be a fun fun ride
>>9432 everyone loves agent 47
>>9425 >It's soulless though Maybe this
so who had more during the holoEn outfit reveal? Gura 2 times?
>93k? Yeah HoloEN is Culled You need double all numbers to get the real numbers without the Cull
>>9439 I mean it does sound like she, Mumei, and Gura all went out together by design. Maybe she knew this was coming.
>>9431 EN audience is pretty much dead after the SNO triple-decker
>>9445 You are coping lol
>>9439 The timing was set over a year ago, SNO had this planned all along.
>>9448 They’ll all be joining Dooby’s group along with Doki and Mint trust the plan
The only bad thing for me for this Nimi new model is her outfit. Ditch the outfit make it sexier and I would rate it higher. Still overall good it's just that Fauna got great looks and outfits
Gura redebut soon
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Gigi just invented hitboxes and you guys are talking about anything else
The wave.
>>9452 it's a great outfit and she's going to have a cowkini alt outfit
>>9451 I don't think there is such a group in the works. But I bet my ass that this whole Fauna/Mumei/Gura graduation fiesta is coordinated. Yes, even with Mumei trying to convince us that she's so sick that she won't continue streaming and no, I will not take my meds.
>>9431 im going to sound like a schizo lmao but yeah, something so little and innocent like this could have been done but middle managment would rather be retards first, shit like this and or even more stupid stuff like Ame getting banned from drawing some retarded looking gators. I actually hope this shit makes Cover nervous enough to start slapping those fucking retards in the face and tell them to stfu
after today Yagoo should rethink his shit, maybe he need more streamers
>>9455 That's too fucking linear
holy fuck looking at the numbers it looks like gura made the right choice. Hololive really was a debuff. Do you think the other holoEN are seeing these numbers and are now rushing their graduations as well?
>Fauna beat IRyS redebut peak Grim. Who fumbled harder, Yagoo, HHH, or Tony?
LOL No I hate Cover Death to Fagoo the Homo Lover and his Shareholders
>>9432 Part Hitman, part "making fun of bald people is funny", and a part where some artists/riggers worked on "barbie" nude models, they would also leave the hair out for future hairstyles, everyone saw it, thought it was funny to see bald vtubers and riggers started adding those for fun, even adding the shine.
>>9458 They were willing to drop Gura and the other members are still bringing in numbers and money, they're not going to do shit.
>>9458 They also didn't let her do the color changing with the seasons outfit...
>>9370 Where's Aqua's 90k reveal stream?
>>9425 No, you're just not used to it.
>>9459 the other holoEN are definitely seeing the numbers and now know that there is an audience for them outside of hololive
>>9456 It's a great tease but I want to free the Booba's. Cowkini or some outfit that will showcase the power of her booba will be great. It's just like Kronii new outfit it's great probably one of the best outfit for Kronii but her default outfit is still the best since her Booba is on full display.
>>9457 >I don't think there is such a group in the works. I chose to believe the schizoid delusions for just a little longer
>>9454 No one gives a shit about your outdated corpos anymore.... don't be sad...
>>9461 nah i honestly think redebut isn't for everyone. you need to have a magnetic personality like gura or nimi to surpass who are as holo. i like dooby but she struggles with being 'magnetic'; she needs someone like gura to bring out her best
>>9470 Nimi Summer will be here soon
>>9457 You are literally a schizo, yes, the graduations are happening right now because Holofes which Gura and Mumei were in is over and Kiara confirmed that ENReco part 2 is coming very soon.
>>9473 it's called charisma, very few people have them. like gigi would honestly struggle solo, despite how great she is.
>>9461 Everyone besides Calli and Bae are likely to be considering a quick exit now, I'll be surprised if holoEN lasts another year at the rate things are going, they lost THREE people in the last six months alone and their biggest three at that.
WTF 2 Nimi
>8chan.se is fucked also azki is ntr wife btw
Fuwamoco mogged her so I'm good.
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so was he right?
>>9461 Some people are entertaining enough to survive on their own, some others have audiences that depended on the group formula, sometimes the boost exists as long as the “essence” of the group formula exists with them, like if their content moves further away from what they wanted they leave.
>>9477 Justice and Advent will chug along for awhile, plus new gens.
>>9476 If GG ever leaves it will be because CC left and the two of them would form their own duo
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>>9458 I think some of Cover's core.. obsessions for a lack of a better word just aren't going to change radically, like brand recognition and perms, but Cover does seem serious about learning what the middle managers aren't reporting. HololiveID tea time included Yagoo, lead of managers -not the branch manager-, lead of merch, lead of finance.
>they should debut more streamers THERE ARE NO MORE STREAMERS EVERYONE that debuted after Council with the SOLE exception of Biboo are completely uninteresting. There is literally ZERO EN indie talent for them to recruit. They had Ame+SNO and they fucking lost them.
>>9479 Have you even read your own posts?
>>9484 For a while = until next year >new gens You think ANYONE is going to want to join hololive after seeing Nimi get far better numbers outside of holo? Lmao
Not surprised this board is full of holoantis. Time to leave for holotower
>>9466 yeah, such a great concept but naaaah why tho right? lets be retards about little things for no reason at all! even tho they dont do shit and all this fucking system was build out of the girls work,
>>9479 Anon's right, you're a schizo
>>9491 reddit mindset
>>9473 Dooby is still confused on what to do she didn't commit fully yet while Nimi fully commited from day 1. I mean only Dooby took the affiliate role the others didn't.
>>9490 Your a child.
>>9489 Maybe you should first reconcile your delusion with the reality that Cover is changing absolutely nothing about what lost them the biggest vtubers in the world and they're going to continue to recline like the retards that they are.
reminder cover denied fauna her bald model
>>9494 nah this place is a shithole lol, Tower is unironically better
>>9499 They also stopped allowing her to do goth Fauna
just hire gaijins who are willing to live in japan
>>9482 Eventually that may happen...can't really expect all of the HoloEN girls to be there forever. But some will go down with ship and that'll be interesting to see.
Numbers rule this thread >early Salome posting
>>9491 I'm just looking at the numbers objectively brother. It really looks like holoEN won't survive another 2 years...
>>9487 >can't even afford food and have to wait for Cover to provide free food I thought holos all made good money? Hmm, maybe they don't get as much of a cut from management retards as bootlickers like Helmir claim they do.
>>9497 >the biggest vtubers in the world Miko and Pekora?
>>9507 Big only in Japan and with 100 million Japanese speaking people =/= big in the rest of the world where there are 5 billion English speakers. Learn some numbers please.
>>9485 breh....
>>9488 >Amelia Debuffson Jesus you people suck at this game
>>9508 oh... a retarded nigger
>>9495 I think dooby was comitted, but she started spiraling with her shitty internet and bad sleep hygiene + diet
>>9508 >Their numbers are trash but!
>>9499 its such a missed opportunity that she didnt get to have different models per season but thats a lot of work to be done and muh brand recognition
>>9507 nimi is the biggest EN vtuber it seems until gura's redebut
>>9488 Ame was ass after 2 years and mumei ain't coming back
>>9502 That should have been the plan from the start of the EN branch. There is a reason someone like Mori got a solo live, and is basically mini celebrity over there. The only future hires should be willing to move and learn the language, on top of actually wanting to be an idol being their main goal, not just a streamer.
>>9506 >helmir kek, i love when retards truly believe they're smart, get filtered
>>9515 how so? she failed to even beat justice lol
>>9482 A bit out of the line, but not entirely wrong, in the true name of a "graduation", things like this are just a stepping stone, the thing is that this stepping stone has just enough to make a life out of it, but it is just possible to just quit, move on and enjoy the life you want.
nimi is extremely cute wtf
>>9511 Learn to count >>9513 They unironically have better brand recognition than whatever Japanese vtubers have globally, no one thinks your fake botted JP numbers are real btw.
33k from 50k raid not bad
>>9488 Weird that you included Mumei when singing was her main content
>>9515 Fuwamoco 3D beat her, but I am not so retarded to claim they are bigger than Gura.
>>9490 >>9497 >Maybe you should first reconcile your delusion with the reality that Cover is changing absolutely nothing about what lost them the biggest vtubers in the world and they're going to continue to recline like the retards that they are. >You think ANYONE is going to want to join hololive after seeing Nimi get far better numbers outside of holo? Lmao If you think Nimi or Dooby would have gotten the same numbers had they never joined Hololive and that every indie is able to get these kind of numbers, then I have a bridge to sell you.
>>9515 Couldn't beat Advent nor Justice and she has won a total of 3 golds in 2 months Maybe the biggest Indie EN V-Tuber?
>>9482 he is dramafag
>>9512 Anon she still got her leech parents/family to worry I wouldn't call that fully committed.
>>9522 And here comes the impotent seethe.
>>9515 oh also didnt doki beat her?
lets just watch the digusting gook
>>9517 Sounds like a good recipe for a non-functional EN branch, Western audiences don't like idolshit and just want streamers. >>9519 >>9525 >>9527 She beats their daily views easily.
>>9522 >no one thinks your fake botted JP numbers are real btw. (You)
>>9529 maybe she thought having people depend on her directly would keep her disciplined
>>9522 Marine just took the number one spot for subs and peko/miko are by far the most watched female streamers.
>>9534 Sorry, we have proof.
>>9523 who did she raid?
>>9537 >reddit oh so you are a nigger
>proof
>>9533 3 golds in 2 months, partner Let's say 4 golds, counting today
>>9533 She plays ball with any mid EN having any kind of buff or raid. Let alone come close to Pekora or Miko, even in wester mindshare Pekora alone moggs her.
>>9473 if Dooby was consistent, she'd be better off. its hard to follow a streamer when you dont know when/where they'll be live
>>9536 >still more than half a million subs behind Gura Why do you have to lie, JPcuck?
>>9537 Can add that independents, flesh streamers, and other unrelated streamers have also been effected by this.
>>9530 13 posts of seethe so far
>>9487 mm yeah thats nice to read, yagoo really needs someone who wants to do their fucking work correctly on his side, in terms of handling the retards at managment, tho it needs to be someone without his homo obsession
>>9538 her waiting room
This is some next level shitposting earlier it was doxxspam that effortlessly switched to shitting on holos now, elite mercenary behaviour, I respect the hustle 🧎‍♂️
>>9545 Can't add Nimi last ER stream also got them.
>>9544 >fastest sub gains in the company she was literally going to overtake her this year lol
>>9537 >you consider this a proof Bantu IQ.
>>9541 >>9542 With all of the handicaps like the Youtube cull and JP botting? Her being on par with the JPs is already testament to how strong she actually is. Show me another holo, even a holoJP, that can get a 90k outfit reveal in this year of our Lord 2025.
>>9533 The western audience is fickle and will never be invested in vtubers as hardcore as the JP and overall Asian one. Hence, again. Mori solo live in the US while being a mini-celebrity in Japan. Also Nimi couldnt even beat FWMC 3D live. You simply dont know or dont care about what your talking about.
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>>9531 Why still bringing her up? She has been a shitter for a long time, she couldn't maintain her 'queen' status.
>>9546 Yeah sorry if I'm biting but this dude is something else.
>>9555 >Live: 2 minutes
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>>9473 The problem with Dooby is her appeal was she did things for people and she organized events. That's where she shined the most and that seemed like what she enjoyed doing the most. But she can't do that as an indie, at least not right now when she's still quite closed off to other people. The thing about Nimi and Gura is they're both loners and do their best solo, so going indie is perfect for them.
>>9551 Why do you have to lie? >>9554 >fickle >streamers like Asmongold have been doing it for a decade and are only getting more and more popular Retard, and I accept your concession for comparing a 2D outfit reveal stream that cost less than 10k to a massively expensive 3D stream that required merch to subsidize the costs.
>>9553 >Outfit reveal Bro it's a full model
>>9535 That's why I said she is still confused. Well things can easily change for her just revive Amesame but in indie form.
>>9559 niga is fast
>>9555 im talking about re debut anon, obv she fell off after the drama
>>9563 Just a different model from what she was already using, it doesn't benefit like an actual debut would. Ironmouse literally does this every few months and Nimi's getting better numbers than her doing the same thing.
>>9562 She revealed her full model, mongoloid. Its not an outfit. Keep seething I guess.
>>9559 h-hayai
>>9553 No no no, 3 EN GOLDS, in 2 months. She has lost to Bijou, Kronii, FWMC, Nerissa, Shiori, Mori, Gura, Mumei, GIGI (lol), Cecilia, ERB, and basically every single streamer that has a [HoloEN] on her Twitter handle, except Raora. Like, if we counted HoloJP then this conversation would be even more pointless
>>9562 gura gained subs because shes leaving retard. she was hard stuck at 4.5mill for months
>>9565 his entire schtick is leeching off of sub cultures to advertise his printing business
>>9487 I'm sad that it took 4 years for this to become a thing after we've lost so many members. Did you see Mumei/Kiara Holotalk? They really shed a light on how shitty support was for early Council.
>>9570 Botted streams, we all know this
>>9567 >Has to compare Nimi to ironmongrel You are on YT not on twitch, outfits are not full model reveals, Miko april fools is kinda similar to this and she mogged Nimi.
>>9570 >paralympic botted golds
>>9574 I should have mentioned that this is sarcasm
>>9554 >even beat FWMC 3D live. What do you mean by "even"? Is there another En 3D live within that timespan that's comparable? Putting an "even" there makes it sound like there's a list of other notable ones.
>>9574 you mean nimi? who has the same thing affecting her?
>>9568 See >>9567 >>9570 She lost to >event buffed and botted channels Also she hasn't been streaming that frequently for a while, of course she wouldn't get that many daily golds. It's like saying Gura is washed up because she doesn't get golds. Why don't you calculate the stream to gold ratio instead? >>9571 Goalpost moving, I accept your concession.
>>9567 >Ironmouse literally does this every few months and Nimi's getting better numbers than her doing the same thing. Did you just? Nigga just killed his own argument by saying that (former) holomem are infact more known and get better numbers than everything outside of the holoscope, implying that Hololive is this the way to go. Impressive ledditor
Imagine letting a talent like Fauna go then letting a talent equivalent to her and a talent 2-3x bigger than her go in a week. These retards better pray that all the memes about them being lazy and not reincarnating are true.
>>9551 >>9571 Congratulations on maybe eventually overtaking a person that already gave up on the company over a year ago? You're proud of that? LAMO.
>>9578 Comparing a full model reveal to just a 3D live? Its literally basically the same as a re-debut. I dunno why your trying so hard.
>>9583 Gura is absolutely reincarnating. Mumei is still a toss up
>>9582 You really think there's going to be people lining up to join hololive after Nimi single-handedly demonstrated that you don't need hololive to get good numbers? You really think there's going to be people willing to subject themselves to Cover's retardation? DYRBI?
>>9582 But also apparently Pekora is less famous than Ironmouse.
>>9588 Ironmouse won at TGA, Pekora didn't. End of story.
>>9581 >moving goalposts the only one doing that here is you niminigger >>9584 the dead subs queen is irrelevant yes. Same will go for her when she comes back
>>9587 >You really think there's going to be people lining up to join hololive after Nim Yes, so they can get an audience and fuck off. It'd be the smart decision then starting from the bottom
Personally I think it's funny how the seethe didn't really start until the reveal was over Like he was melting down so bad he couldn't construct a coherent thought and needed the time to compose himself
Funny to think how, if she was still in Hololive, all this discussion wouldn't be happening right now, and instead everyone would just go "Holo vs Holo". Really highlights who the numberchads are, and who the corpo-bootlickers are.
>>9589 >Vshojonigger aaaand you just outed yourself
>>9590 >Same will go for her when she comes back lol this jpnig is SEETHING
>>9587 >demonstrated that you don't need hololive to get good numbers? The only people getting those numbers. BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION are... Nimi, who joined Hololive. You just said IM which is in the top 3 at least of non holos is garbage compared to Nimi.
>>9587 Nimi is a popular ex Holo. She has nothing in common with a true indie vtuber
>>9575 Yes Youtube has a harder time getting numbers than Twitch and Nimi still did better getting numbers for changing from her chibi model to her full-size one, the same way Ironmouse changes models all the time. >Miko Needed a holiday and event buff, Nimi literally shadowdropped this out of nowhere.
>>9581 Events that are a part of belonging to HoloEN, is there any problem? 3 out of the 4 EN golds that Nimi has won since February are because of events (Nimi Day, Charity, Model Reveal). What, do you think she got 90k CCV on a gameplay stream? Did you watch her reveal?
>>9573 I haven't had a chance yet. I won't grudge any of the Myth and Council girls for leaving for whatever reason they want to put out, but even with the ones leaving, I'm feeling upbeat about Hololive overall.
>>9589 >Ennacuckie Ok, never mind I'm done.
i have a feeling someone is samefagging with VPNs. you cannot be this retarded to reply to baits
>>9585 >Comparing a full model reveal to just a 3D live? Those two things seem pretty comparable, yeah? You use weasel words a lot. When you say "they couldn't even beat X" and then X is something exceptional, that doesn't actually convey the meaning you're trying to give it. The same goes for >just a 3D live
>>9595 >no retort yeah that's what I thought
>>9587 Unironically yes. She showed them that if you're smart you can use Cover as a stepping stone and leave to become an indie losing nothing. It makes the hiring process very unwieldy for Cover because now they'll have to tell "grifters" from "bootlickers". I'm starting to believe the new 3 year contract regime rrats.
>>9587 >You really think there's going to be people lining up to join hololive after Nimi single-handedly demonstrated that you don't need hololive to get good numbers? You really think there's going to be people willing to subject themselves to Cover's retardation? DYRBI? Leddit nigga you still didn't answer my question. >>9526 again, if you think any indie can do this without having had any connection to Hololive in the first place, then i have a really nice bridge. >do i think people will still line up for cover Even ligger would kill for a spot in Hololive >do you think people will subject themselves to the redardation of Cover Absolutely >dyrbi You'd be retarded if you don't
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>>9468 So... new green Lamy or brown Lamy? I'm not sure which one
>>9590 Mad. Frankly I never cared for JPs anyway. Undoubtedly Nimi is breaking new ground for the Western scene.
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>>9594 Retard, I don't even give a shit about Ironmouse when Nimi mogs her every three ways to Sunday. >>9596 And she didn't have to join hololive and suffer under Cover's retardation, but she did, and it gave her nothing but pain.
>>9592 Yeah, the silence and lack of dox posting and griftposting was telling. He was actually punching the air and hyperventilating LMAO.
>>9608 no she isnt lmao
>>9607 she doesnt count. lamy council only consists of lamy, fauna and koyori.
>>9593 I still love hololive, but I also think that Nimi going independent has been in her best interest and I am looking forward to what she has in store.
>>9610 she got shit numbers as lemon tho
>>9606 You can stop biting now that he said the TGA stuff.
This song is bad Nimi
she is not a lamy anymore, she didn't fulfill the first requirement
>>9604 >broilin’ >bubblin’ >burstin’
>>9603 Im saying her revealing her full model reveal should have been able to blow the 3D live out the water, considering, yes, a 3D live in holo is a very common event. She couldnt do it.
IDs make this thread very interesting, you can see which anons come from which angles when there's a big slapfight argument like this one. >>9583 Gura is definitely reincarnating but I doubt she'll be a full time streamer so it won't matter much compared to someone like Fauna who is very active Mumei probably not coming back, i assume she'll be like Sana and once in a while she might pop up.
>>9590 Lmao bet Senz will beat Marine's subs in give or take 6 months when she comes back. It's not even a fair fight. >>9591 >>9597 >>9605 The seething about Nimi is very telling, go on, call her a grifter you schizos.
>>9606 hes a vshojo nigger, Just here to shit stir about stuff he doesn't understand
>>9616 Ehhh i already started writing prior to him saying that... 🪵
Koyori Lamy Nene They are Lamy
>>9622 no she wont lol she will be hard stuff at 1.7 mil
>>9620 In the indie-sphere, model reveals are even more common. Every day an indie is revealing a new model. Does Hololive have 3D lives every day? No.
>>9615 Back when indies weren't as well known, that's different from now.
>>9600 I'm a Promisefag (IRyStocrat) so my heart is in shambles, my only hope is that things 'finally' improve. >>9597 Nimi's not only 'popular' she was arguably the 'most' popular (active EN) member at time of graduation. I'm not ashamed to say that there's very few who are capable of being as successful as an indie including my oshi or other favorites.
>>9627 If you want to pretend shes just not another indie, go ahead I guess.
>>9476 Gigi would struggle because of lack of charisma??? lmao
>>9605 To be fair I think anyone who tried to do a year and then bolt would not have nearly the same success as Nimi is having right now. Fauna was there for years and very well established. You can’t replicate that without time.
>>9627 she ain't getting 90k again in her career bro lol
>>9612 >93k model reveal that isn't buffed by debut, drama, or supported by a JP corpobox I'm not even a napling. I'm whatever Sen is going to call me. But it's so delusional to not recognize a milestone has been achieved here.
>>9626 Odds that not Gura just makes a new account and starts streaming without announcing anything?
Nimi is better at singing than Fauna was.
>>9628 uh huh
>>9620 >her full model reveal should have been able to blow the 3D live out the water According to who? That seems like an arbitrary metric you just made up. >a 3D live in holo is a very common event. A 3D Debut is NOT a common event, it's actually a very rare and important occasion that only happens once, and in the case of FWMC its even rare because it was the first double vtuber 3d debut. Why do you use your words in such a way to downplay that?
>>9605 Interesting times for Cover recruiters for sure. I don't want them to only get girls that fit the idol/japanophile mold, since diversity brings fresh ideas that can stave off any potential staleness. But it would be the least risky move. Sometimes I get the feeling Cover is veryyyyyyy permissive about the things they're not anal about though. As in they're not hung up if talents leave or if talents collab with outsiders (that pass the background check) and other things that can bring them "competition," so to speak.
>>9620 You’re fucking retarded
>>9635 Oh I am assuming she goes back to sen, she might make a new account. In that case it will be even lower
>>9633 Setting yourself up for a grudgepost when Gura and Mumei will be graduating soon and joining her, and then you'll see vtubers don't need Cover to organize events and get big numbers.
>>9622 I never said it as something bad. Like with any corpos, competition from anyone will means consumers win. Be it from rival corpos (sadly none) or individuals.
>>9636 She actually learned how to use her audio settings properly for karaoke in her last few months as Fauna.
>>9633 She wasn't supposed to get 90k today and look how that turned out
>>9640 Way to concede.
>>9622 Saying it'd be smarter to join Hololive to get an audience instead of trying to climb out of 2view hell isn't seething at Nimi. I love Nimi, and I think she's a fantastic streamer. But she would not be getting THESE numbers if not for the fact that she got a boost and was able to build up an audience through Holo. Just like Biboo and Gigi wouldn't be getting their current numbers if they were still in their ex corpo/indie despite being good streamers.
>>9633 fags said he wouldn't make 40k today
I don't know why someone would reply to obvious trolling. The argument is too stupid to even consider reading
this fucking song wtf Nimi
>>9642 im talking about nimi you nigger, gura will obv, mumei wont
holy fucking hell Nimi my sides
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>>9625 If i may, I would like to propose Nerissa to the Council of Lamy as honorary non-seat member. I am interested to hear what the other seats have to say
>If I'm EN5 then my course of action would be to put in a solid year or two of grinding and then graduate and benefit from all the spoils of my newly found viewers. This is the meta. In this day and age corporations are simply a launchpad to further your streaming career.
>>9633 3D debut with special guests Dooby, Senz, Shachi
>>9639 Since vtubers as an industry is still relatively new, there's no precedent as to what hurts it, so except the very obvious things, everything is allowed.
>>9633 >get blown out beyond all belief >w-well it won’t happen a-again… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU ARE SO FUCKING MAD
>>9645 and it will be the last
>>9652 BUT IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES DOES IT ALMOST FEEL LIKE NOTHING CHANGED AT ALL?
>>9655 wont get 90k >>9657 and it wont happen again nigger
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>>9658 Nigga are you crying??
>>9653 Shut up Rissa go back to work
>>9633 she will keep mogging your favorite EN vtubers bro
>>9658 >shitting his diaper on cooldown KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>9662 you have yet to say that im wrong
>>9656 Yeah, I'm paraphrasing, but believe Yagoo's said he views rivals growing mainly as growth of the industry overall. Not a position I'd be comfortable with, but I'm no CEO
>>9661 KEK
>>9664 she aint ever beating biboo thats for sure
That was awful, and I loved it.
>>9653 disqualified IMMEDIATELY
>>9660 >wont get 90k True, because it'll get over 100k
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>>9638 Whats arbitrary about it? An ex-holo that was #2 EN revealing her 3D model. Seems like plenty of solid qualifiers.
>>9632 Well yeah, it's just before Holos wouldn't dare thinking about leaving, thinking there's no life after Holo, and only the most opportunistic would take the leap of faith. Now it's gonna be a lot of applicants pre-planning a finite tenure coming in. Like I unironically think CC will leave in 2027. I don't mean it as a slight towards Otomos, on the contrary, I think she's got enough solo streamer talent in her to be extremely successful.
>>9669 What was Biboo's last outfit reveal numbers?
>>9654 Just hire girls "ride or die" like Biboo.
>19861d Holy shit, this retard has actually posted 26 times in less than half an hour. He's HEATED.
>>9666 Her first collab with notgura will get 100k+retard
>>9676 how many golds does fauna have?
>>9667 I think he, regardless of any stated position, unironically still views vtubing as just a way to showcase VR and related advancements. So a techbro, which doesn't help much with the eternal growth model, though it helped in the early years of the corpo to not make the whole industry fully black, considering how all the former giants ended up.
>>9679 nah it will get 60k
>>9678 when Nimi GIGAMOGS his shitposting he'd prepared all day lol lmao
>>9677 Biboo is smarter than you give her credit for, she knows the right time to leave is in a year or so.
>>9683 >>9678 yet im not wrong :)
>>9607 She's more of a green Iroha then she is a Lamy
>>9680 No one cares about your fake metrics that's dominated by bots and forced box events.
>>9686 Iroha is green...
>>9684 You dont have to say you dont watch Biboo. Just stop seething already.
>>9685 bro i aint even sure what argument you're making you've just been shitting yourself and being a monkey ook ook nigga, nimi won 🫵🤣
>>9646 You are so fucking mad lol
>>9691 nimi lost to her old self lol
>26 posts full of nonsense and bait >Still replying to me to fish a (you) I'm not paying your steam cards anymore go bother someone else.
I think it is funny how it has become brown (spic) v brown (SEA) hours
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You know how you can notice this is just schizos and retards screaming at each other? Nobody is posting sex. Not even of NImi, or any other chuuba, or even just off-topic. It's mostly just retards fighting. That's when you know the kittens woke up.
>>9674 >An ex-holo that was #2 EN revealing her 3D model. Yeah, and with all those qualifiers it did 90k+ And the only counter-example you had to try and belittle it was something that had even more exceptional qualifiers, being FWMC's 3D Debut. You realise that being 2nd to something exceptional also makes you exceptional, right? You made the argument yourself that she should be able to beat "just" any old 3d live, and the answer to that is that... she did, her reveal was bigger than the average EN 3d live, you only have one example to downplay with.
>>9688 ah a /lig/ger that was never from here then
>>9690 You don't watch her member streams if you think she's 100% happy and hasn't suffered from management retardation.
>>9694 yet you wont say im wrong ;)
>>9693 mmmm those sweet monkey (You)s, its too easy nigga is crashing out 🤣
>Kronii is a Ronaldo main And for that reason, I'm out
>>9700 biboo is happy tho?
>>9678 >Doesn't need a schedule, just streams whenever the fuck she wants, unlike your ENcorpo, and still gets more ccv >Doesn't need raids to inflate the fuck out of her floor ccv like your ENcorpo do all the time >Doesn't need to exist solely to make money like your ENcorpo do, otherwise she would have had her SC enabled a long time ago >Can play whatever she wants, for as long she wants, and still gets 12k+ ccv floor (almost double of the majority on the ENcorpo) >Doesn't even need a proper model to destroy your ENcorpo I mean, i would seethe too if all my enjoyment with vtubing dependent on a corpo brand.
>>9702 yet you wont say im wrong :)
>>9701 I'm not even talking about you retard.
So 4bf13c and 19861d is the same seething shithead, right?
>>9697 she's trying to leech lmao
Is Vstats broken? It's currently not catching the Nimi stream and a few other streams Also poor dokibird delayed her stream to not overlap Nimi's model reveal and got destroyed by her overlapping karaoke anyway lmao
>>9697 Leech.
>>9709 Only a bit.
>>9705 So she is not EN number 1, most of the time not even number 2, sometimes not even number 3. Well, congrats for beating NijiEN and a bunch of liggers lmao, truly Indie Jesus Then it's pointless. Hurray for beating a bunch of Nijis and Liggers lmao
>>9708 They share the same braincell that's for sure.
>>9708 >So 4bf13c and 19861d is the same seething shithead, right? Post that .webm of the kid with tablets and phones refreshing every second
>>9669 beep boop
>>9711 wtf...she was always that low?
>>9349 Suki Suki
>>9712 >another desperate nip that falls for the EN trap Nobody likes a shitty fusion restaurant. Sushi or burger, pick one.
>>9713 >beating them with zero corpo support and not having to give 50% of her earnings to a corpo that cockblocks her from doing everything she wants to do Yes, she won. Keep seething.
>>9689 Greener Iroha
>>9349 cute
>>9675 I doubt she would leave before she spent the same time in holo as she did outside She started streaming just to join after all Also she loves doing her projects with the girls in holo, and already said that she's in for a long time
>>9487 >make supporting IDs way more easier uh made in indonesia merch?
>>9698 She didnt do much better than other EN 3D lives, again for a whole ass model reveal. Im not even trying to belittle her, just saying its not very impressive. I would simply be comparing it to other EN debut streams and not pretending like it was just an outfit.
>>9711 and so the indie leaching begins
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>id:19861d I'll just remind everyone what kinda creature is seething behind that ID https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/89705890/#89733514
Cover/HoloEN needs to roll out the dates for the EN Concert ASAP. The moment Gura debut all eyes will be on her for at least a month or two. ENReco 2 vs Gura debut week/month will be the highlight for all the shitposters here.
>>9708 yeah, same retard. actually been melting down on cooldown on 2 devices. nimi won
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>>9726 >Biboo is this really the strongest EN at this point? HOLY GRIM
>>9716 you wont say im wrong ;)
>>9710 The JPkek from VStats is still Coping
>>9727 she is corpo, fag
>>9727 >Sony slave >indie
>>9724 Unmedicated rrat: Yagoo will convincing the japanese government to annex Indonesia.
>>9728 LMAO THIS NIGGA IS LEGALLY A WOMAN WTF IS THAT
>>9710 vstats man is a glorious /jp/ god. indie EN shitters need not apply
>>9728 i already forgot that why did you have to remind me
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By the way Vstats doesn't seem to be tracking this karaoke stream for some reason
>>9727 Anon, she's one of the Sony chuubas, regardless of anything, she's pretty much fucked if she doesn't leech.
>>9724 Would make sense to start making merch in Indonesia instead of China.
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>>9732 You need to consider the fact that holoEN's reputation has been fatally damaged by the graduation rush. No wonder people are leaving, they're leaving even holoJP. Even Taiwanese bros recognize that hololive is in a doom spiral.
>>9725 >She didnt do much better than other EN 3D lives But she did? If it weren't the case you'd have more examples than only 1 beating it within, what, the past 2 years? >EN debut streams It can't be compared to a regular debut stream because she already debuted, it CAN be compared to a redebut, but we only have 1 example of that in HoloEN, which she beat. You're setting up arbitrary qualifications to then turn around and say "she didn't do good enough" which seems pretty illogical to me.
>>9742 GRIM
>>9710 Wait, how much did Doki drop? And how fare other youtube chuubas?
Just take the vrabi number for the tally. Yes, they have a indie section.
>>9741 doesn't track mumei either
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>>9728 I didn't need to see that again.
>>9710 She was hoping for a raid
>>9744 I don't remember runes, are those insect or tech runes?
>>9741 She's on Vrabi but it's quite inaccurate. https://vrabi.net/general/channel/UCIfAvpeIWGHb0duCkMkmm2Q
>>9741 The fix is in.
>>9744 and which shitposting site is this from?
Looking at the bigger picture, I think the real loser in the future from Nimi's high CCV is not Cover, but western indy talents with styles like Nimi/Gura. Cover is probably aware they must now factor that there will be talents who want to use Hololive as a stepping stone. In reaction they may become more conservative in future talent selection for EN Gens. Longer initial contracts may be on the table to counteract this.
>>9755 time for the big (40) for me
>>9745 Im just saying Im not impressed personally, you can take it however you want. I will always go with the full model reveal as the actual debut, especially for someone like her.
>>9756 SNO graduation is covers plan to hololize the western vtuber scene and growing it in hololives image
Chumbuds...
>>9745 its a new debut in all but name
wtf kronii is using gigi's "owwie" now
>>9755 Youtube comment on a holo's community post. The point is that even the famously holo-loving Taiwanese are already turning on holo, just saying.
>>9762 she has been using it for a while now with maidroni
>>9763 >chink naturally
>>9756 >le stepping stone You can stop letting Yagoo ream you now. The brand only helps to get eyes on you. You can just as easily sink into runt tier status, and that's on you, which does nothing for you either if you leave the company.
>>9758 >>9761 It's not, or else you can call every new Ironmouse model a new debut. Stop trying to downplay Nimi's numbers.
>>9765 Taiwanese aren't chinks, retard.
>>9756 > I think the real loser in the future from Nimi's high CCV is not Cover, but western indy talents with styles like Nimi/Gura. Cover is probably aware they must now factor that there will be talents who want to use Hololive as a stepping stone. This, i think since their graduation, but probably especially after today, indies are forced to come to a realization that you either have to go to Hololive to make it big time as a Hololmem or that you have to go through Hololive to make it as a former holomem indie
>>9756 Since on the EN market CGDCT (strictly, as in streamers only, no idol stuff) is synonymous to JP corpo youtube streamers and the opposite is synonymous with Twitch Meta, there's an untapped niche on youtube.
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>>103677 >not bad Lol, lmao.
>>9767 Nah Ironmouse is on le magic numbers site and is usually a 4k shitter without 20 raids.
holy fuck this bijou mumei stream is terrible. they cannot interact at all
>>9767 bro its her first time showing her actual model. its a debut. >>9768 ehh... close enough
>>9768 >Taiwanese aren't chinks LOL LMAO
>>9756 Also the girls make Hololive, not the other way around.
>>9775 >>9776 Taiwan will never be chink no matter how much you CCP bootlickers want it to be so
>>9758 >Im just saying Im not impressed personally > especially for someone like her. This is actually my point, you are incapable of formulating a coherent argument that isn't pure weasel words that try to convey meaning without actually having any, you think and argue like a female. Either way, I accept your concession that your entire argument is based on false comparisons, arbitrary goalposts and utterly illogical.
>>9766 That's the definition of a stepping stone.
>>9774 Can't force chemistry.
>>9747 >Wait, how much did Doki drop? Looks like her regular numbers to me though. I came here to ask what's causing Biboo to be a 5k streamer, shouldn't a collab with a graduating talent be huge?
She is actually so cute.
>>9766 >The brand only helps to get eyes on you. So a stepping stone
>>9782 sure you could. you just need a catalyst.
>>9779 whatever you say chinky
>>9779 slant eyes, eats dogs. same same
>>9781 Implying that the company has anything to do with it besides providing a platform for one (1) day on debut is very much tonguing Fagoo's anus.
>>103677 I always warned that guy who always said all EN needed was a hag about how it would actually play out. Come 2024 and we get ERB. I didn't have it in me to rub it in.
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+7k subs by now
Eww I forgot to filter the chink ID.
>>9785 You could achieve the same effect by viewfarming your debut stream to 100k as an indie. Probably cheaper than signing up with Cover, even.
>>9781 What new heights is Kson on now? Ultimately it comes down to the individual talent. You can't just be like "be eternally grateful to the dorito" only when the talent is successful outside and ignore the runts.
>>9756 I wouldn't say the indies are losing out. Hololive has always been considered a bit of a walled garden, their mass pretty much dominates the algo. They still do, but the arrival of these new indies is increasing the mass of the indies' algo. These ex-hololives aren't going to work with every indies, but their algo is now less tied to hololive, which may allow non-hololives to benefit somewhat.
>>103677 >[spoiler] lol lmao
>>9783 You know what nevermind, i thought this was an analysis thread not glorified sports betting
>>9780 Your the one white knighting like your life depends on it. I already said Im not trying to belittle her numbers, but am personally not impressed due to her being former #2 EN. I honestly expected her to do better, considering how hard the anti-corpo sentiment is being shilled here 24/7.
>>9756 seems like a reasonable take
>>9797 Given how their sub count increases are far outstripping any holo it's pretty clear that there's an outflow of fans going on at the moment and it's not stopping anytime soon.
>>9794 >Probably cheaper than signing up with Cover What are you trying to imply?
>>9790 FWMC...Ina...
Biboo 5k doooooorya
>>9803 Xe accidentally called Nimi botted, lol
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>>9799 Eh, you came at the wrong time, sadly, whenever a chuuba that the kittens either support or hate streams the thread becomes worse, until that stream ends and they either get bored and/or start their erp videocalls.
>>9756 You got it entirely wrong, they should have done what they are doing now, care for real for the girls like those 'tea party' reunions (very late thou) that actually ask directly the girls what they want or need by the head branch and lead managers instead of useless lying mid management faggots.
holy fuck these streams are boring. this will be the first time im watching this fatty
>>9803 he's retarded, that's what he's implying
>>9803 That selling your soul to a corpo for a stepping stone is a thing of the past. They can rely on anti-corpo viewers and fellow indies to boost them now that the indie network is growing strong, and that's free. Unlike signing for Cover.
>>9797 They stream on Twitch, and are all down in numbers the only people getting affected are other Holos and maybe Mint to some less extent.
>>9794 >You could achieve the same effect by viewfarming your debut stream to 100k as an indie. Probably cheaper than signing up with Cover, even. Respond to >>9606 before replying to me over anything else
>>9784 She's definitely cuter/younger looking then Fauna. Also so much for sameface it looks pretty different
>>9800 >Your the one white knighting like your life depends on it. I'm unironically not even subscribed to her, I just found the logic of your argument so appalling I had to respond. >but am personally not impressed due to her being former #2 EN Her numbers ARE impressive even considering that though, and saying your not impressed when they are objectively impressive says a lot about your bias. >I honestly expected her to do better, considering how hard the anti-corpo sentiment is being shilled here 24/7. To get this straight, your reasoning for expecting something better, is posts on this thread? (even though the majority of them also did not expect such numbers, making that point not even true) You are a completely and utterly irredeemably retarded.
>>9812 >seething /lig/ger still trying holo ain't going anywhere lil bro, If anything more people are gonna be signing up now
>>9814 Get it through your thick skull that Nimi pulled this off DESPITE all the Cover bootlickers shitting on her in this thread and elsewhere trying to keep her down. Her success isn't due to hololive, it's in spite of it.
>>9804 They aged into it, they were hired as Christmas cakes. Hire an actual Western 35-40 hag from the get go and that's where the problems begin.
>>9756 Contracts longer than Fauna's tenure in Holo sounds pretty legally questionable to me. It's not normal to get locked into 4+ years of employment, even in Japan, it's rare to see longer than a year in the US for borderline scams like "learn to drive a big rig for free... but you have to work for us".
wow the thread is so shit and pleople replying to shitposters/falseflaggers
>>9812 >selling your soul That's a mentality thing, sure If we're talking about actual money, cover literally pays for the debuts, and the 3~ month trip to Japan before that to bond with genmates among other things
>>9818 and she isn't going to keep these numbers, they never do. She will settle back down to being 10k again
>>9821 almost like IDs don't really do much ;)
>>9822 Cover gives a small budget (that's often insufficient) for the debuts and the girls have to pay for anything more. I beg you, please watch the streams and realize how much the girls talk about how bad management is.
>>9821 its most likely vpn samefagging
>>9821 ID+ filter
>>9824 flags
>>9783 I mean, it's 8k now. Hoomans won't miss out on one of their oshi's last streams but I could imagine Nimi draining a lot of the box. Also lots of Naplings watch Mumei.
>>9825 YOU watch streams nigger, multiple have said management is fine. Hell mumei on stream today said she would miss those in management. Not that you would know that
>>9830 Not responding to a Nimischizo.
>>9821 >poking one faggot who is mad that Nimi got 90k
>>9820 You must not watch any sports since 5 to 10 year contracts are fairly common. There are likely specific outs you must have in the contract though, but I'm not a lawyer.
>>9821 I'd like to remember y'all that you can filter by ID, thread becomes less of a shithole if you just ignore the kittens. Though I think they get off on that, so it's a work in progress.
>>9831 yeah because you don't even have a response. Because you are wrong. Probably get your news from that parrot faggot too
>>9818 >Get it through your thick skull that Nimi pulled this off DESPITE all the Cover bootlickers shitting on her in this thread and elsewhere trying to keep her down. Her success isn't due to hololive, it's in spite of it. >any random indie can get these numbers, it's not about her Hololive past So when will random indie no. 1.183.692 debut with 90k viewers?
>>9772 Wait so you're the fucking JPschizo who always spams this image Which other JPs do you regularly shitpost about? You clearly have no shame even with IDs so just come out and say it.
>>9783 Most of Mumei's streams and collabs have been getting very mediocre numbers, dunno what you've been watching. Its a shit game on a multi pov collab.
>>9820 i signed a 5 year contract in DC but i got relocated to arizona
>>9825 They pay for the model completely, and give a budget to pay for assets and the debut stream, also none of the girls ever complained about the debut budget being low Also I've been watching since 2018, I saw a few streams since then
>>9828 I wish, I bet this >>9831 nigger is south American
>>9836 Thinking about it, what have been the biggest indie numbers in both platforms? I think it's been either Filian or ShyLily on Twitch, and I'm not sure on Youtube.
>>9812 True indie unity is not a thing, especially on youtube. Even on twitch where you could say there's some sorta solidarity, it's dominated by the twitch meta which is about orbiting the right people. Indies don't particularly lose out from ex-holo success but if you're glazing some sorta all-encompassing indie unity, you're no different (and even more delusional) than the corpo bootlickers. Indies were, are and always will be a crab bucket.
>>9842 It has to be Neuro, Fillian and ShyLily's numbers fucking suck
>>9820 Nimi is basically taking a victory lap right now. A few schizos sperging out is expected
>>9820 I don't think there are laws against that. It's just not a thing in vtubing yet. Honestly I think everyone started leaving at the same time because Cover actually started rolling out multiyear contracts.
>>9842 By technicality, the biggest twitch indie is an AI
>>9842 doesnt fillian get like 5-6k these days?
>>9833 Release clauses make sense in sports because no one's going to be "indie" but having to buy out your own contract as a vtuber makes no sense and is draconian. Exactly what I would expect from Cover though. >>9836 When random indie no. 1,183,692 is as talented as Nimi is. >>9837 >can't address the fact that hags are bad >deflects to calling someone a schizo
>>9836 A spanish indie is number 1 on twitch, even if its questionable. Her or OperaGX botted debut. On YT it's Sakuna and U.
>t-the member stream bro >t-the comment section bro (no link) >uh-uh the streams bro (no proof) >lose >uh uh Not responding to a Nimischizo he is probably inexperienced falseflagger or worse, a dramawatcher
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>>9844 Oh yeah, forgot about the AI and the guy behind her. I remembered ShyLily mostly because of her sex model, also I think she got 40K magic twitch numbers once.
>>9850 Meant for >>9842
>>9843 If you don't see that Dooby and Nimi are forming the backbone of a, let's call it a resistance, I'm not sure what to tell you besides get a recommendation for an ophthalmologist.
>>9851 he's just a seething /lig/ger. They always come around these parts when something big finally happens in the indie space.
>>9820 >>9839 >>9846 Contracts are different when you're an individual contributor a la a professional athlete that's 1/1 vs a faceless contractor in a company. The former has a ton more leverage for renegotiation while latter is very much at the mercy of the whims of the company. I very much doubt that a longer contract would be a deterrent should the situation changes significantly over time.
>>9854 >a resistance Jesus Christ.
>>9840 And that budget is very limited, obviously they wouldn't dare coach it as a complaint - especially when they're just starting out - but they've made it very clear that they need to pay out of their own pocket for anything beyond the bare minimum.
>>9854 >let's call it a resistance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LonKGuS9uuQ >>9850 You mean chinga tu madre? I think she got hard doxxed like 6 times and started just doing scams and prostituting herself for money.
>>9854 >resistance ok ill admit I was trying to rile you up but you might actually be autistic/retarded. Please listen to yourself
How many?
she still got em
>>9863 I love seeing the tourists leave. It makes me laugh every time.
>>9854 Nimi is streaming games, same as what she was doing in holo, Dooby is again depressed and went on hiatus recently.
>>9849 >When random indie no. 1,183,692 is as talented as Nimi is. This is such a cop-out answer. You know why. If Nimi hadn't been in Hololive she wouldn't have had this amount of viewers. If it was all purely based on talent, she would have had them already prior to entering Hololive. >>9854 >let's call it a resistance Holy kek. This faggot turned out to be more retarded than i thought he was
>>9864 every time lol
>>9863 get baited
>>9866 Still mad that Nimi won? It's okay, you'll get used to it.
Regarding employment contract length: "In the United States, there are generally no federal restrictions on the length of employment contracts, whether they are fixed-term or indefinite. State or local laws, however, may impose specific limitations. For instance, some jurisdictions may have regulations regarding the length of fixed-term contracts, including any renewals or extensions"
I feel EN5 missed their window for debut. Feb probably the best month to debut a new gen for EN. I mean can they even go against Gura debut week/month buff. EN mindshare will surely be divided for ex-Holos and Holos and the only upside for Holos is they got more girls. But EN vtubing as a whole won't increase even with EN5 they will just leech off the current fans like what Justice did.
>>9865 She's doing it to a much greater degree of freedom than she ever had under Cover. And of course Dooby would get depressed seeing as she had to appear for Kiara's 3D thanks to her dumb decision to sign up as affiliate.
>>9869 nah you are just retarded lmao
>>9870 Entertaining this, doesn't that apply for US companies? Or does it also apply for US individuals doing contracts under foreign companies? If I got anything wrong, feel free to call me a retard, just asking what's up with your post.
lets get to 1000
where's nose poster... YT-kun wants me to watch her
Did she raid?
lets get to 1000
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>bootlickers seething >liggers trying to leech
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lets get to 1000
lets get to 1000
>>9871 They won't debut EN5 when Justice is stuck at 400k subs
lets get to 1000
>>9880 >>9882 Better proportions here.
lets get to 1000
>wow 8/vt/ is so slo-ACK
I am not a bot
lets get to 1000
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>>9842 Filian's hit 40k before, not sure on exact numbers. Believe this is the highest twitch EN vtuber peak (Opera debut is pure embed abuse), but this was peak covid, big twitch streamer Rust server, with a special door skin drop if you watched. From Ash/AshonLol
lets get to 1000
lets get to 1000
>>9880 Here her face looks normal. The proportions are better. The model just has something not quite right


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