>>9897 *GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES* >https://playboard.co/en/ >http://ikioi-ranking.com/ >https://vrabi.net/ >https://www.vstats.jp >https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking >https://vt.poi.cat/ Hololive sites >https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html >https://trackholo.live/en/ >https://holosongs.com/ >https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/ Twitch >https://sullygnome.com/ >https://twitchtracker.com/ >https://stats.roki.sh/ >https://streamscharts.com/

>>104059 Do you have any screenshot of the full model?

>>9899 Naplings are kiwitards now?

>>9902 always were

rollin

Watching him spam the thread to lock in order to reset his ID faster was really the icing on the cake

For anyone wondering about Japan contracts, here is the AI answer: "In Japan, fixed-term employment contracts are generally limited to a maximum of three years, but there are exceptions. If an employee has worked for more than five years under a series of fixed-term contracts with the same employer, they have the right to request conversion to an indefinite term contract. There are also exceptions for highly skilled professionals or those aged 60 or over, where the maximum term can be five years."

+8k subs from new Model and karaoke

>>9902 Lucifer ID I kneel

also is it just me or does filter+ not work?

>>104059 idk, I think it's just that we are not used to iron vertex(twitch) style rigging. It's quickly growing on me. Her face is super pretty, like way more beautiful than Fauna even. Fauna still is a better design overall, but Nimi feels like a younger version.

>>9909 Kek

Naplings funneling to the other streams

>>9905 Not bad, not great either.

>>9914 this is a holo thread don't cha' know

kek this korean is such an awful shill

>>9903 >>9911 Nah, I also watch twitch indies, love some of his works. Nimi has a something that isn't quite right. Maybe something got lost in translating the model to Live2D.

rollin'

>>9911 They need to work out some of the rigging quirks present with a new model should be ironed out pretty soon.

>>9916 she can change icon now

Nimi has made 8k subs from the start of her reveal to now.

Roll >IronVertex Jesus that's why it looks so trashy

>>9911 >I think it's just that we are not used to iron vertex(twitch) style rigging. It's quickly growing on me. Her face is super pretty, like way more beautiful than Fauna even. Fauna still is a better design overall, but Nimi feels like a younger version. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it isn't pretty (although i disagree respectfully on saying it is better looking than Fauna (for one i miss a mole)) but there is just somethinh uncanny. I don't know whether it is the color blandness of the whole model or the increased distance between her eyebrows and eyes but it just isn't quite correct for me

>>9910 Last thread some replies to the retard I filtered were still there.

>>9922 and she did it

Today, I will remind them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8lQYPbVu6k

>>9908 >>9923 >+8k subs That's pretty good. Definitely didn't expect her to beat her debut peak

Have Towa and Botan joined the HoloRust server yet?

>>9924 Nimiseething already?

New twitter icon (god it's cute)

>>9930 >Botan >joining anything that doesn't have male ecelebs Lol, lmao

>>9931 Ironvertex is slop

please dont make me brown

>>9906 nimi won

>>9936 anon, I...

>>9930 >Towa no >Botan soon

>>9936 rofl

>>9936 RUMAO

>>9936 KEK

>>9932 Like this looks way better than >>9911 with already a slightly lighter eye color. The art soggy mama made has more of an emerald green color while the eyes of the model she made has more of a forest green color, which is the same color as her dress, while in the art it isn't

>>9936 Anon...

>Nimi 93113 CCV No hate to her but it's really annoying how..... Dramabrained? Touristey? The whole EN Vtuber sphear is. This type of numbers are so impossible for EN Vtubers with content they put so much effort in like 3D Lives or other events, but these fags only bother to show up for debuts/drama/graduation. They are much more interesting in virtue signalling, Is it impossible for EN to cultivate a JP level core audiance?

>104190 >Gokischizo Easy filter. I love IDs

>>9936 kek

>>9936 let me cope by saying its red-ish

>>9922 >2more weeks and she will overtake Shiori

>>9945 >s-s-she only got these numbers because of drama >i-i-it's only because of tourists >it's definitely not because she's currently the most popular EN vtuber in her own right The barely disguised Nimiseething is palpable

>>9944 >Incoming sex

>>9936 kek

>>9952 Kino color

>>9945 >sphear lol lmao 🐒🐒🐒

>>9931 asagimama is the goat but ironvertex...ain't it

>>9950 We all know you are playing both sides nigger kys

Can we just collectively agree to filter >2436f8 this thread with how much he shit up the previous one?

>>9937 I know, you know, everyone with half a brain knows >>9948 I'm sorry bro, >981a2f below you is reddish, you're straight brown

If you think about it, all Hololive debuts are drama.

>>9956 Still seething that Nimi won? It's okay, you'll get used to the feeling.

vstats cut her early peak 35k this fucking shit site

>>9945 >This type of numbers are so impossible for EN Vtubers Gura

>>9960 yes yes, we get you are a dramafag, not stay filtered

>>9957 i'm with you

>>9948 I'm daltonic and I still see brown.

>>9957 Oh okay yeah it is xhey/xhem. Filter's do your work!

>>9961 that's what you get for using the vtard site

>>9945 The JP audience is more Anime-adjacent, so JP vtubers have an easier time pulling someone in who was mainly reading manga or watching anime. This type of audience is smaller on the EN side so you have a mix of those coming from Anime content versus those coming from watching flesh streamers.

where da loliposters at?

>>9945 Gura will do something similar, but then it will be over. Because there is no one else in the indie sphere left who can pull those numbers. (assuming Gura WILL be streaming and not just shitposting. Which would be very funny as well)

>>9967 I though vstats was more accurate than the other site no?

>>9969 This counts right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt4NAexyUcg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt4NAexyUcg

the model looks fucking good. today is a good day.

>>9973 ye

>>9951 It's always nice to see her old fans still sticking with her and not just being blatant clout chasing oshihening bitches just because she's not in Holo anymore and lacks a ship

>>9977 > and lacks a ship ???

>>9974 unicorn bros.....

>>9978 Doobmi and Nimint aren't real because the latter have fucking loud ass Dokimint shippers and the former is just as deluded as Tealeavesfags as it is currently

>>9977 >drops back down to 11k I mean she has good numbers but lets not pretend there aren't some external factors here

>>9972 ya if you count accuracy based on feelings

>>9963 >>9966 Might as well go to reddittower if you want a pro-Cover hugbox that much

>>9978 Maybe he thinks lots of FauMei fans dropped her when most of them were primarily Saplings.

>>9981 ??? I wasn't talking about in general I mean fan artists and cosplayers who didn't fuck off when she left Holo

>>9985 oh right, I mean they will do whatever for numbers on twitter so I wouldn't look too much into that

>>9945 I mean, FWMC got 95k with their birthday stream, plus there have been minor events such as FOTM collabs that raise the box into good numbers (The day Advent had their REPO collab, the Holobox reached 50k, despite being a normal ass day) People underestimate the EN audience sometimes, when they drove to Hololive in numbers whenever there is entertaining content on screen.

Mori is actually inclining since Gura's announcement. her vods are doing great. Isn't that interesting

>>9988 she's been doing a lot of stuff

>>9988 >Mori is actually inclining since Gura's announcement. Since Advent's debut actually. Slowly and steadily

>>9988 She, along with Kiara are probably the anchors, holding everything down right now.

https://litter.catbox.moe/am7dgz.jpg https://litter.catbox.moe/gs9v7e.jpg https://litter.catbox.moe/ogeto1.jpg https://litter.catbox.moe/ksybqs.jpg

>>9961 Vstats didn't pick up and track the stream, until the very end. No idea why, if it's just a bug or what, don't know if that's fixable. Vrabi at least caught 34k

>>9987 And a huge part of that box was watching Nimi today. Despite what bootlickers here try to peddle, I don't think an average casual Holo watcher cares too much if Nimi is a Holo or not, she only needs to be in their youtube algorithm.

>>9988 Mori and Kronii have mastered the fabled and forbidden art of GETTING THEIR SHIT TOGETHER And since they're GETTING THEIR SHIT TOGETHER, they're inclining

>Trump reducing tariffs for China Holoshop should just stop releasing price changes and just don't bother.

...so how about that oblivion remake huh?

>>9988 What are you on about? There's literally no difference, other than the Doom stream, which she leeched off Gura's announcement.

>>9993 It's an en indie so no chance it's getting fixed

>8f090f Thats a filter for me chief.

i just realized this is really fucking ronaldo the football player

>>9992 You can just spoiler it here, NSFW is allowed as long as it's spoilered.

>>9994 mmh thats a filter from me pal

>>9995 Show actual number comparisons?

>>9998 bugged to hell, I hope someone plays it and gets the full bethesda experience

>>9996 first time im hearing about this. true? trump cucking AGAIN to the chinese?

im going to take your word for it nigger

>>10008 >Trump says China tariffs will drop ‘substantially – but it won’t be zero’

>>9987 >The day Advent had their REPO collab, the Holobox reached 50k, despite being a normal ass day Actually it was 42k. And obviously it was botted. What the fuck is up with all these low quality posts?

>>9991 >>9988 One thing that hasn't really been discussed as to how the current situation is reflecting on those two in Myth. Ina is great don't me wrong but Takamori have really shown up in spades as the ones to take up the helm of the branch as a whole. Personal content aside HoloEN really lucked out with them being in the position that they are and stepping up in a managerial role as advocates.

>>9999 are you sure she's normally over 140k on her gaming streams?

>>10010 Why relent? He really had them on the ropes with the tariff exemptions on phones and electronics.

>>10015 lmao

>>9945 People who've been telling you that EN vtubing is dying is not kidding anon The ship has sailed a long time ago It's near impossible to break the mainstream unless you're Gura Not even Ironmouse sucking up to Hasan made her any more relevant

>>10007 Im downloading it now and holy fuck its 120gb

>>10012 They saw how grim the music and entertainment scenes are, and they don't wanna go back

>>10009 https://8chan.moe/vyt/rules.html

>>10017 Even gura struggles there. Watching Asmongold and Ludwigs chats when they were talking about her really puts how niche vtubing is into perspective. Just straight "kill pedos" and "resident sleeper" or what ever that sleeping face is

>>10014 When it's around the same duration, yes? All the streams Mori has done since Gura's announcement have been 4 to 5 hours long. Her VOD views are not better. If anything, they look worse to picrel because they are all so much longer. Do you guys just not bother examining the nonsense your brain shits out and just immediately accept them as fact?

>>10021 no one cares about your ecelebs

>>10009 Artist?

>>10017 Theres never been EN vtubing. It was always, HoloEN and the indies trying to leech off them. Now said indies will try to leech off ex-holo as hard as possible.

>>10024 ruschuto

Why is numbers here but all the others are on the other site? Is it because #'s has always been JP leaning?

>>10017 But breaking into the mainstream is not necessary. RomCom mangas rarely break into the mainstream and they still sell millions on their own, you just need to "win" the industry, grab as many shares of the pie as possible. Like, you cannot possibly expect...FWMC (per example) to have the same CCV as Coachella, or even the same CCV as the announcement of a Nintendo game, but what matters is that it beats Niji streamers, or V-Shojo streamers, or Phase, or whoever.

>>10021 To be fair Asmongold and Ludwig audiences are pretty much the furthest thing away from vtubing Asmongold's audience are bargain bin /pol/fags and Ludwig's audience are LSF dramafags A more apt comparison would be Speed and Kai Cenat compared to vtubing

>>10027 tower shoots /#/ on sight so we're here

>>10028 too bad yagoo and the covertards don't understand this and would rather dump resources into the homos and holoearth

>>10012 I don't really want to think about what the current EN branch would look like if Mori hadn't stepped up the senpai role as well as she has

their first song is God knows

they are going to mog nenechi bros....

>>10033 h-how did you know?!

>>10027 Tower is a reddit-lite hugbox Its ironic how the mods there refuse to add an IP counter and IDs since their moderation is "superior" compared to the /vt/ jannies

>>10034 you mean nene is going to mog them

>>10034 Just wait until they start dancing

>>10036 to be fair, it seems to be working for them. Schizos shot in seconds. Its pretty comfy for live posting

>>10036 they're right though an actual monkey with a keyboard is already superior to vt jannies

>>10028 They're gonna be forced to break into the mainstream as soon as merch tariffs force them to look for alternative revenue sources stateside

>>10036 It's more like they're incredibly paranoid, you can shitpost just fine for a few minutes but if you start getting a little too "schizo-y", you're shot on sight

>>10027 >numbers'thread le bad >what do you mean their 8chan thread is pretty comfy and it confirmed only a bunch of schizos were behind 90% of the cancer

>>10032 Being an Adventfag, I honestly dont think EN has anyone thats mature enough and has the presence she does, even before the graduations. I hope Biboo, FWMC, Nerissa and GG might grow into a role thats similar.

>>10019 >>10032 Apparently the overseas members in JP are really fighting hard in those Tea Parties for everybody else. I hate that it took almost 5 years for discussions to happen and only after we lose some of our biggest members but better late than never.

>>10044 >here >comfy uh huh

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Nimi’s full model debut beat her actual debut?

>>9987 >The day Advent had their REPO collab, the Holobox reached 50k, despite being a normal ass day Actually it was 42k, and it was obviously botted.

>>10048 It did

ado hate

>>10047 I filtered 1 "One" ID last thread, and it was enough.

>Gura leaves holoEN for vshojo how would you react?

>>10046 What Moona said about her own experience with tea parties was quite interesting. How tea parties organized by JP are different than those organized by EN and different than those organized by ID. How they range from "a casual chat between coworkers" to "sales pitch" to "begging". It speaks of the different experiences that the girls live, despite being under the same umbrella.

>>10041 4/#/ will claim this is natty

>merch tariffs force them to look for alternative revenue sources stateside The only alternative sources of revenue overseas are: >manufacture merch outside China or even in the US itself >more sponsorships with US brands >more performances in the US Dodgers was a good start, but they should have taken that Crocs idea from Gura more seriously.

>>10056 (me) meant to reply to >>10042

>>10049 >it was obviously botted Show the graphs, Biboo and FWMC pov's were viewers jumping back and forth. Biboo only got botted after the collab ended or just before it. She continued past the collab ending.

>>10054 I think some of it, as it often is with Cover, proximity. If the JP girls can swing by the office whenever, they don't have to "make it count" as much as the indonesian girls.

>>9988 Mori is getting a drama buff

>>10047 It's comfy enough that outright schizos are sniped by mods who are surprisingly attentive while those arguing in bad faith can simply be filtered. A significant improvement over VT

>>10056 >>manufacture merch outside China or even in the US itself nah they'll make it in China, send it to Vietnam and then to America

>>10061 having to filter 8 IDs means its not a comfy thread tbh

>>10058 I wasn't only talking about Biboo. I don't get it. Are you hallucinating? Are you too lazy to look up the charts yourself? What's with the ridiculous amount of lying ITT?

Why are Botan, Laplus, and Pekora's Rust frames so lewd.

>>10054 I just wonder how frequent they are and how they are going to hold middle managers accountable. Leadership might have a good head on their shoulders but it's going to take a lot of work to make sure the changes are satisfactory and 'actually' implemented. Surely Fauna and the others must've been aware that some of these things were in the works but that's just speculation.

>>10064 Because I was only responding about the repo collab?

>>10064 ALL NATTY BAYBEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>10067 Okay, you're wrong. You could not be more wrong. You somehow invented a scenario that never existed kind of wrong.

>>10056 Turns out Gura was a lot sharper than she presents herself huh Cover USA was established way too late when they realized the Cover Dodgers collab was a massive success Partnering with brands worked amazingly in Japan and the Crocs collab would've been a big success as well

>>10066 Feel like in Fauna's case she was already fed up and didn't care to last long enough to see improvements because there was no guarantee talking to Yagoo about her problems would fix it quickly or at all.

AGAIN

>>10069 What scenario? Where viewers were jumping back and forth between her and FWMC's stream?

>>10070 Speaking of Gura it's fucked up she didn't affiliate, it's fucked up that only Ame sold out and everyone else wanted out completely kek. Once the NDAs expire in 2, 3, 5 or even 10 years' time it will be incredible to know what exactly goes on behind the scenes.

>>10066 They're as frequent as the talents make them to be. FWMC commented that they were nervous to be seen as annoying due to the frequency of their tea times, and they only had...two, three in a month? But I suppose some other girls have more reunions, and other haven't even met Yagoo. That's one of the inconveniences of these reunions, as they're organized by the talent, if the talent hesitates on doing so, well, there is no reunion and thus no communication of her problems. There have been some small advances in terms of health (girls not on healthcare were being signed to Japanese healthcare) and perms (getting Nintendo perms), but there is still problems like management rotation and sudden delays/cancellation of projects

>>10073 Dude, she was botted that day. Stop. I don't even know what cope this is. Jumping back and forth? What?

>>10045 Mori definitely didn't during the first year or so, so I think most of them will grow into it fine when needed

>>10063 I only have to do 2-3 normally but otherwise its second nature to just ignore posts that use too many buzzwords at first glance

>>10079 nah tower is better man

>>10076 I literally admit she was botted...are you damaged in the head? She wasnt, up to the collab being over and Biboo continuing her stream.

>>10027 >Why is numbers here because tower loves kiara and you can't shit on her

>>10062 True, but wouldn't that just increase the shipping instead? Or is that negligible between China and SEA countries? >>10070 That Taco Bell sponsorship should have been their entry point into big brand deals, not a one-off novelty. Cover USA should ostensibly be a branch office or subsidiary but are a glorified merch warehouse at the moment. They dragged their feet when this should have been set up at the peak of their overseas popularity, and now they are competing with their own ex-talents.

>>9919 She's probably not using VBridger or Enma/Cetra didn't use it too much.

>>10074 I think that Gura not affiliating with Cover is a fuckup on Cover's part The entertainment industry standard of "The Company is larger than the talents" will always break down when your A listers are considering quitting A recent example would be the Luka trade where it instantly blew up in their faces

>>10075 I was mostly referring to the larger ones that involve the branch/departmental leadership that Moona discusses >>102802 (which seem to be a lot more fruitful.) It would be inefficient and surprising for them to be present for FWMC ones if they are as frequent as multiple per month.

>>10066 >>10071 It's all speculation, but there's a chance Fauna was debating whether to stay or not after that summer 2023 trip. Decided to give it another shot during the winter break, then immediately they mess up her song with Mumei and whatever happened with the MC with her at BD.

>>10080 I go to tower for liveposting streams and here for more actual discussion about events/news

>>10085 However, as of right now, Holo's competition with Nimi (because let's be honest, every other Indie sucks) is only on CCV Stuff like sponsorships will always be on Holo's (or any corpo that isn't Niji) side, not to mention Nimi hasn't seen any interest in stuff like that.

>>10088 It might help, but companies at that level work kinda like an autocratic political regime. Where technically you can just go ahead and replace everyone under you, but sometimes the guy that is bad for the company overall is one of the ones that helps you keep your own power in the hierarchy.

one more song until the announcement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpRxgBm1uGI Impossible..

>>10084 Hmmm based, at her own channel too

>>10085 Taco Bell was literally only because the Olympics were in Japan

>>10091 Nimi alone is better competition to Hololive than either Niji EN or phase combined

>>10091 >Stuff like sponsorships will always be on Holo's (or any corpo that isn't Niji) side Their only bargaining chip is the talents that they have and Mori being the only "mainstream friendly" EN talent left is gonna make their negotiations harder looking forward For a slight bit of hope the Pekora TGS nomination really made them more attractive to vidya sponsorships

Buttafry

>>10089 I mean it's not like there's been other things that weren't randomly cancelled for her either. Before her ASMR burnout she was supposed to release an asmr, even did art for it, blurred or and posted it on twitter, and that ASMR never actually got released. She never talked about it and people never asked. There's also shit like https://x.com/Shikabashi/status/1914240819701436850 That just popped up. Never got released. So I feel like she has a bunch of shit she never told her fans because of her "I want to come into the streams positive and feel good" thing she has going. There was probably a bunch of stuff they just didn't allow her to do.

>>10085 >True, but wouldn't that just increase the shipping instead? Or is that negligible between China and SEA countries? China is very much known to bypass sanctions through these means, up the point that very in depth material analysis has been conducted to figure out the very specific microscopic cut pattern that a machine in x, y or z factory produces in China compared to the reported factory source in Thailand for example.

it's a world tour

>>10098 vidja companies are ultra retarded or boomer I can't decide which one. They sponsor literally everyone because they see vtuber and think "oh yeah young kids like this", I think he's talking about big sponsors like the dodgers. Also another world tour.

ugh, do I have to fly to NYC again

Canada and Australia.

https://youtu.be/RETqmA7YMoI?t=27521 team tomodachi

>>10105 >Vancouver CANUCKBROS WON

>>10100 https://x.com/ceresfauna/status/1555411384548020224

Every venue has different special guests

>>10101 <aaaaaiiieeee youre not allowed to sell things! I can tell by the microscopic thread ends!

>>10105 >>10109 This shit looks quite interesting, a good chance not only to increase mindshare but to test it, how popular are they outside of their normal USA, Japan, Indonesia. ...I want Latin America...

Again they are held alongside various cons.

>Ollie? Pass

Not sure about the Australian venue but the Hong Kong venue has an 1800 capacity.

>>10113 >Pass Nah, I can say a lot of negative things about Ollie, but she is a good performer.

Ollie is such a luckshitter to be included with all these girls. I guess shes a good stage presence.

>>10109 >Kronii not a special guest on the Canadian concert ONE FUCKING JOB

>>10111 >more It's not over yet spicbro.

>>10091 >Stuff like sponsorships will always be on Holo's side Will it? Cover has a huge advantage in asia tie ins and japanese sponsors aimed at japanese audiences, but their aimed at western audience stuff has been pretty anemic. The only impressive things they had was the taco bell one, which is now how long ago? and the dodgers thing which was cool but seems a one off and again is now quite a while back.

>>10100 I think just about everything she worked on got screwed up in some way, can't remember one of her projects that didn't. And as you say that's only the stuff we heard about. I also think there was a lot of stuff we never heard about. Anons for years noted that most talents often talked about working on something then very little ever seemed to come of it. Been vindicated there with all the unfinished or rushed projects with the recent graduations. To be clear I really do hope things are improving and have gotten better for the remaining members

>>10115 If you're a shit holo, everything you do is shit. Hope this helps

>>10117 who?

>>10117 who?

>>10100 i mean again, if stupid shit like those retarded gators ame made need to be prohibited by them for no fucking reason at all, i cant imagine what other things they go full retard with.. shit like Sana wishing to make a kusoge monday were she plays dumb games, completely cancelled in her first fucking week... because sure, you shouldn't call them kusoges right away cuz that could be seen as a negative for them, but then let her change the fucking name! dont just cancel all of it

I know they are gonna let me down but I just hope for one of these "more" venues being in Europe. We have some big cons that can be used.

>>10109 Less JP/ID though Irys will count as JP. Guests will be key for the tour

>>10122 Nah, I hard disagree. If you do something good, and do it well, you should get praised for it, even if everything else you do is a hot mess that any sane person doesn't want to touch.

>>10126 The france one loved hololive, right?

>>10126 I bet my balls the European "more" is Germany. ...but it would be incredibly, INCREDIBLY based if they rented Wembley, everyone and their mothers rent Wembley.

>Nimi lost her free premium because she changed her icon Twitter is so fucking stupid man.

>>10109 They really screwed over *insert anyone else* by giving Ollie a slot

I can't wait for the next 2am Mumei karaoke.

>>10122 You won't help your cause of attacking [holomem] by being mentally unstable. It never works.

>>10122 It doesnt really work that way, she is a shit holo as compared to Fauna for example. She is a better performer on stage compared to Fauna though. I dont like her but it is what it is.

>more failed otaku pandering concerts is the only way Cover can think of to try and get into the Western market Holy retardation. Should've just let Gura or Fauna run the EN branch, Mori is too mired in the music business to help. HoloEN could've gone mainstream by now but they're stuck playing second fiddle to Asmon in mindshare thanks to Cover being run by boomer nip retards.

>>10108 Had a heart attack after seeing the alum. I know it's been a few months but still hurts

>55bc89 still trying

>>10129 Yes, but anywhere else would be fine too. I bet other vtuber fans will also buy a ticket just to support more vtuber stuff in Europe, we always got the short end of the stick with shit like this.

>>10137 Nimi has completely removed any negative feelings I've had about her leaving that I don't get emotional just seeing her graduation stream anymore.

>>10129 i think so yeah, that Maddie girl said some shit about how impressed they were about hololive's presence, and that they would definitely see if there is space for more, inclsude an space designated only for vtubers, i think there was an email or some text in fr, im not sure

>>10131 eh she has viral tweets every week so should get it back soon enough

>>10128 >>10122 See Ollie - I'm not a hater but even I can see that her appeal on most daily streams is rather niche; in contrast her live performances are pretty universally well received by most Holo fans.

>>10141 Are they going to do the classic, "Man hololive Vtubers are so popular, let's invite some 2 views next time!"

damn, I though 8chan died

>>10117 ES corpo right? NEOBAKA does pretty well at times but they have litte EN mindshare.

>>10140 I'm ecstatic that Nimi is doing well but still get depressed when I see reminder of "what if she had her needs met in Holo??" As a promisefag there was so much potential but they practically got smothered in the crib. If you haven't seen Moom's recent Holotalk I'd highly recommend they talk a little about the mess that was Omega.

>>10144 KEKyeah maybe, i remember ppl discussing the fact that i wasnt an special Hololive section but a vtuber one in general, ppl who dont know shit about vtubers tend to think that everyone is hololive

2500 seats for the Sidney one.

>>10150 How many seats was for Dreamhack again?

>Ollie the 3view homo collaber in the centrer Good luck with that CoverKeks

>Hong Kong >Hongcouver "What's the difference"

The guests for the New York show are going to be DA BOIZ

>>9974 🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄!!!! ... 🦓🦓🦓🦓🦓 .... 🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴

>105259 I hate Ollie but you're way too obvious nigger. GET FILTERED

>>10154 QRD on this guy?

The Shiori homocollab mindbroke me, everytime I see a membership zatsu stream or a ?????? on any of Advent's schedules, I think "Fuuuuuuuuuuuckkkkkk" Nothing has happened thus far but I can't fucking live like this, jesus

>>10151 A sized down Rod laver arena avaible for every dude with a ticket for the con. The exact numbers are hard to get though.

>>10158 Any of Advent? Not just Shiori? She really did a number on you

>>10153 Vancouver has Koreans and Nardwuar

>>10158 Nigga just move on from Shiori already. I blocked her channel + clicked not interested whenever her face pops up and now I don't see her in my YT feed anymore

>>10160 I think it is because I was so confident that nothing ever happens, that when something did happen, my retard brain just switched to "all will happen at once" Except for FWMC, I know that ship sailed since El Silencio.

dead thread, dead hobby

>>10164 is it?

>>10163 Biboo and Nerissa has given you plenty of proof homobeggar.

>>10166 I FUCKING KNOW! I'M JUST BEING IRRATIONAL AND PARANOID!

>>10167 Take med, sleep.

damn when did bibbidiba reach 130m

>>10169 its also less than 200k to 131m

NotChloe seems going to debut with one other girl at the same time. I hope it’s Shion

>>10164 Yep Time to move to next male hobby you want to ruin tranny

>>9897 SexRyS

>>10171 Shion couldn't possibly graduate and then redebut the next day Ain't no fucking way

>>10091 >Stuff like sponsorships will always be on Holo's I wouldn't be so confident about that, if what the nijispy from a week ago said is true then akatsuki already has the logistics for merch

>>10171 shion graduates on the 26th, and NotChloe is on the 27th. seems highly likely

>>10169 Bibideba was a smash hit in Japan I even hear in Japanese restaurants here when it was popping off

>>10171 >debuting on 27th >Shion clocking out on 26th No way hat girl is Shion right? Kinda bad look on her if she being that rush

>Not even pinned >Incoming Homo reposts Great marketing Coverkeks

>>10179 It is what it is.

Rolling

>>10177 yeah its a pretty good song. not my favorite in her 3rd album but a good listen nonetheless

>>10181 One try baby!

https://streamable.com/2udyad >hololive is cooking something big >I heard a lot of people saying 2025 will be the downfall of vtuber but I feel with the many many ambitious big project that hololive has, I think we'll thrive >I have no worries for the future anymore. I'm just worried about what content I have to give out to actually keep up with hololive's hype because hololive is crazy >We're cooking so much, you guys have no idea Is this a big cook? Seems pretty par for the course at this point.

>>10171 >NotChloe seems going to debut with one other girl at the same time. I thought the rumors were it was an indie friend of hers who also graduated

this time will be light color for sure

>>10179 they should replace whoever is managing that account honestly. always reposting homos AFTER any hololive announcement is malicious.

>>10184 >Ollie is in it Yeah, this is it. It’s just another world tour with no VODs. Practically unarchived concert. Lame as fuck

>>10179 I only see the avalanche of Tour posts and the homocrow post 13 hours ago

>>10187 there are 2 atleast, and a fujo is one of them

>>10188 I mean even Breaking Dimensions is that at this point. Where the fuck is the bluray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rjcXynOpHA Boston girl was on my front page, remember someone in #s linking her a while back but haven't really seen her since.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PzUvgR6KMlI Vshojo keeps on winning

>>10193 That guy is very good at speaking with authority on subjects he doesn't know anything about.

>>9897 Sorry I'm late, what was Nimi's peak ccv earlier? The reveal stream AND the karaoke stream that followed it?

>>10193 Isn't this the faggot that got BTFO by Neuro? Nobody takes this fag seriously anymore after going against Stop Killing Games and got exposed as a nepobabby that knows jackshit about the vidya industry

>>10193 Literally no one fucking likes this dude after the whole WoW debacle.

if you look at the numbers objectively, would you say that hololive is inclining or declining?

Why didn't Nimi debut her model together with Caspurr?

>>10191 I’m guessing after the 3rd concert announcement or a few weeks before it

>>10195 93k Debut 34k Karaoke

>>10198 >multiple 10ks for EN >JP 3DLive breaking their previous year records Inclining despite the graduations

>>10201 >93k Debut Wait what the fuck?

>>10109 >ID has Risu, Moona, Reine, and Kobo who are going all out as a singer >give it to Ollie what is Cover thinking

so Nene, Mori, IRyS, Nerissa, and Ollie are on every event? so does that mean at the Sydney event we have the full Promise lineup?

>>10198 >2023 >14 >2025 >14 They're stagnating.

>>10205 meant for >>10109

>>10198 on numbers? inclining

>>10204 >what is cover thinking That Ollie needs a boost

>>10203 Higher than her actual debut, yeah.

>>10203 Prime time, highly anticipated, no overlap, right on Gura and Mumei's graduation period. If she had delayed it some five minutes, she would have reached 100k. On that note, I find it annoying that FIFTY THOUSAND PEOPLE left as soon as the model was revealed. Like, nigger, aren't you here to watch the streamer?

>>10204 ol' fairness doctrine, maybe? Moona was in the last world tour, and Risu, Moona, Reine, and Kobo got to do the viv:id cruise

https://youtu.be/I0Jwv40MkiY?t=1083 Woah based And I thought the non-trivial amount of casual racism was cool

>>10211 That's just how reveals are man. They see the face and then they fuck off.

>>10213 Try this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Jwv40MkiY&t=1083s

>>10211 >no overlap Ah, that explains it, ok.

>>10215 Did GG ever beat Billy? She was stuck on that dude for like an hour

>>10198 They're losing top but not floor, if you know what I mean. It will be harder to have a streamer with a 25k average now that Gura is gone, but at the same time even tne shittiest shitters are selling well, better than before.

>>10211 That's just tourist churn. Your numbers depend on them not being too big a percentage of your stream.

Oh she ticked again.

>>10210 I'm quite surprised the naplings are rather well-behaved today normally they'd gloat at every single achievement their oshi gets, including numbers-related ones.

>>10219 And I just realized I rhymed. ...LOSE YOURSELF IN THE MUSIC YOU ONLY GOT ONE SHOT CUZ OPPORTUNITY-

>>10222 You could thanks ID for that.

>>10213 I'm glad that "Sinners" is doing well, but the oversea box office is bad compare to the US performance

>>10222 Some VShojo fag raided the previous thread but IDs work wonders when filtering retards

>>10224 thank you Indonesia

>>10204 It was Ollie's turn, I guess.

>>10222 >y normally they'd gloat at every single achievement their oshi gets, I hope you realize that is usually just retards using her to shitpost. Some guy last thread literally was playing sides after she got those numbers after spending the entire morning doxposting or shitposting against her.

>>10229 >I hope you realize that is usually just retards using her to shitpost Newfag? There's a reason Naplings have quite the nasty reputation as Numberfags, anon. Some of them are just shitposters yes, but some are also legit Numberfagging naplings that tend to be arrogant sometimes.

>>10222 Nobody expected 90k+, falseflaggers have low morale

Patra did a lot of dancing shorts.

>>10201 Think the karaoke peaked at 35k, but vstats didn't track the first hour for some reason so 34k seems the highest recorded . >>10203 >Wait what the fuck? Here's the graph. The waiting room just kept climbing, just a little short of 29k was highest someone posted. She probably could have easily stalled for 100k if she was that way inclined. I was optimistic but really didn't expect her to beat her debut stream

>>10230 Which is why it didn't happen in /bant/ and hasn't happen here where there are IDs. Curious, isn't it?

>>10232 She looks fat

>>10233 So does Nimi get the universal Gold today or will Mikochi still dominate everyone?

>>10213 >Snow White >original

>>10235 Looks like a regular ol shortstack to me

>>10235 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewpmtuhyfhk Has to make sure she doesn't lose her boobs.

>>10209 >>10228 i thought they were smart enough if it involves money

>>10235 >She looks fat You say it like that's a bad thing

so nimi so far has the biggest english vtubing stream of the year right?

>>10211 No overlap because I think everyone in holoEN was watching her reveal too.

>>10222 even last thread we only has 1 nigger spamming the thread with holo vs nimi, its really is just /#/tourists in the end

>>10242 No, there's two separate graduation announcements that take that. And two upcoming graduations that will take that.

>>10242 Fauna does. Which Mumei might beat, she usually has a higher ceiling, but Gura definitely will

>>10242 Fuwamoco 3D Live got like 95k

>>10246 Wait no I'm dumb I forgot the announcements

>>10242 uhhhh, GURA GRADUATION? Hello??

>>10247 >This year

>>10230 Really just seems like you're just outing yourself as only joining this thread this year

>>10240 >smart ANON WHY DO THEY KEEP INVESTING IN THE STARS BRANCH? WHY HAVE THEY NOT TERMINATED THE RED RETARD? WHY HAVE WE SEEN SO MANY GRADUATIONS SINCE 2024? ALL OF THOSE HAVE THE SAME ANSWER

>>10252 Are you trying to gaslight me into memoryholing all the insane numberfagging the naplings have done? Even if half of them are just shitpsoters the other half are LEGIT numberfagging naplings.

>>10254 I'm just going to assume this is some weird larp attempt because I don't think anyone here is genuinely that gullible to actually think that

>>10233 Before anyone cries about this being the King Engine. The Engine is slower than this and the entire stream was less than an hour. Also, there was a very sharp drop off after she finished revealing the model. The King Engine will never stop increasing until the targeted stream ends. Even when a raid happens, the entire raid will bleed out at the same rate it increased at on the target stream. The King Engine has never boosted anyone more than 20k-30k, but this stream had a near 30k waiting room and quickly rose after. There's no way to spin it, this was as legit as it gets.

>>10255 Oh so you are trying to gaslight me into memoryholing it. Got it.

>>10242 homos doesn't count because they are protected class

>>10258 mean for >>10253

>>10236 Not sure what the numbers for the BIG 3 talk with Noel, Subaru and Lamy will do but maybe...not sure

>>10233 >>10256 It's just a pretty standard outfit reveal graph, just with bigger numbers. Actually here a directly comparable stream. IRyS just did it over 2 hours instead of 1

>>10211 >>10214 >On that note, I find it annoying that FIFTY THOUSAND PEOPLE left as soon as the model was revealed. You know most of them aren't actually closing the stream right? They're just tabbing out to go post on wherever about it. It's the same reason outfit reveals climb so quickly during the hanging part. 10k+ people aren't just joining the stream at the exact right time suddenly, they are tabbing in so they are now being counted in ccv

>>10261 The good times.

>>10256 I haven't heard anyone claiming bots tbh. Kinda surprising for this place

>>10262 >They're just tabbing out to go post on wherever about it. Then why doesn't the graph show them tabbing back in?

APR 2025 GOLD >1) 129,454: Miko (hololive) Live2D Debut >2) 81,267: Flare (hololive) 3D LIVE Birthday >3) 46,695: Fubuki (hololive) holo elementary school test Okayu vs Shion >4) 184,223: Sho (nijisanji) 3D Debut >5) 48,339: Calliope (hololive) 3D BIRTHDAY LIVE >6) 77,286: Miko (Hololive) reacting to clips >7) 45,212: Miko (Hololive) Mario Kart 8 >8) 50,413: Subaru (Hololive) Mario Kart 8 w/Okayu >9) 50,476: Pekora (Hololive) Mario Kart 8 >10) 78,964: Miko (Hololive) MikoRoom with Shion >11) 190,860: Rou (Nijisanji) 3D debut >12) 103,110: Itsuki Sakyo (Nijisanji) Debut >13) 110,842: Korone (Hololive) 6th Anniversary 3D Live >14) 39,299: Miko (Hololive) Pokemon emerald >15) 49,303: AZKi (Hololive) KanaAzuKoro butt battle >16) 243,897: Gura (Hololive) Graduation announcement >17) 72,646: Pekora (Hololive) HoloRust server announcement >18) 150,894: Rai (Nijisanji) 3D debut >19) 78,841: Watame (Hololive) Beyblade tournament >20) 111,537: Kanade (Hololive) 3D BIRTHDAY LIVE >21) 63,863: Kiara (Hololive) 3D LIVE >22) 130,978: Kanata (Hololive) 3D BIRTHDAY LIVE > PER COMPANY 18x: hololive 4x: nijisanji > PER STREAMER 6x: Miko 2x: Pekora 1x: Flare, Fubuki, Sho, Calliope, Subaru, Rou, Itsuki Sakyo, Korone, Gura, Rai, Watame, Kanade, Kiara, Kanata

>>10264 holobros are completely demoralized by her numbers today there's nothing they can do to dispute them so they will lay low for a bit

>>10267 100k by holos in 2025 1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01) 2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01) 3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01) 4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01) 5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01) 6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01) 7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01) 8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01) 9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01) 10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01) 11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01) 12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01) 13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01) 14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01) 15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02) 16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03) 17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03) 18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03) 19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03) 20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03) 21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03) 22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03) 23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03) 24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03) 25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04) 26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04) 27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04) 28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04) 29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04) # of 100k streams last year: 58

>>10266 seems like she might be second-guessing this statement as the graduation day gets nearer and nearer

>>10270 No, it seems more like she's doubling down. It's her mascot, not her. She's OK with fanart of her mascot. She knows people are going to know it's her, as long as she's not directly getting tied to Mumei it's whatever.

>>10265 Probably because they have stream on a second monitor or something, so they don't really. Look at the graphs above, or any outfit reveal, ccv slowly and steadily inclines. Then the hanging reveal section starts and ccv climbs rapidly, the face gets revealed, then ccv rapidly falls back down to roughly where it was before the reveal started. In these streams, and in theory every stream, there's a bunch of viewers that youtube isn't counting in the public viewer count. They have the stream on a second monitor, they have another stream open they are counted on, etc. Once the reveal starts they swap them over so now they start being counted in the ccv on the reveal stream. Once the face is revealed they swap back, maybe some do leave. The alternative is that 10k, 30k, whatever, people are just sitting around waiting for the exact moment the reveal starts to open the stream, then start closing it again within seconds of seeing the face

Just watched the Nimi L2D. I think I know what is wrong with it. It's not "Twitch style rigging" or anything like that. It's simple - it makes her look too old. When her Chibi model is a 10 year old girl her L2D is a 50 year old hag. There needs to be a middle ground.

Wild how people still need to explain how YT doesn't count tabbed out viewers. A wave of newfags from 8chan, maybe?

>>10273 Ironvertex is the guy behind it, and that guy is just not good.

>>10273 It doesn't even look too old, it looks younger than Fauna. And she IS a hag. >>10275 Ironvertex is not just one person, it's multiple people.

>>10274 Or they are twitch fags

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeaigB1w2Pc >3.5k watching peo real?

>>10278 No, she's been getting botted for like 3 weeks now

>>10278 So real that she went on meltdown on twitter

>>10279 oh why?

>>10281 No one knows. There's no rhyme or reason to any of the bot targets anymore.

>>10088 I think the ID one was like that as they were using the fact that they were all in Japan at the same time for fes to make a big push.

>>10282 yea it does seem just random

>>10274 Everyone always assumes everyone else knows these things, but big events like debuts and grads always bring in new people

honestly based off her chibi model I was expecting her tits to be much bigger

>>10286 I think it's all getting obfuscated by her clothes/apron. They jiggle like mad, but on the other hand they look like they are suffocating in there even with the apron off

>>10286 >>10288 Yeah they look much bigger with her apron off

>>10288 Imo the face and cloths dont match, they are too dull will look much better in brighter outfits.

>>10290 well good thing she's an indie now and can get new outfits whenever she wants

>>10290 sundress soon

>>10261 She might hit 1000

>>10293 Didn't mean to reply, oh well.

>>10270 She thought she had some magic nigger disease that no American or Japanese doctor could find the cure for and that she was doomed forever. She couldn't even get through a pre-recorded announcement without coughing every two seconds. Now she's noticing she's gotten a lot better but she can't ungraduate now.

>>9897 anyone got data on their cycles?

>>10198 It's declining. The fans have been left disappointed. This is the double-edged sword of box pushing—if something happens to a Holo, whether positive or negative, it causes a chain reaction. In the past, they relied on the box-pushing atmosphere, but now this same atmosphere implicates and hurts them. Some viewers come to watch the show specifically for the interactions and the overall atmosphere. Without certain elements, the show loses its appeal and can no longer be considered attractive. Hololive’s brand reputation has declined from this. This reflects a commercial concern, especially since the launch of Cover. There’s been a growing co-prosperity effect between secondary creators, stakeholders, and Hololive. For instance, when a Holo is about to graduate, peripheral manufacturers and brokers react with a buying spree for merchandise. However, this is followed by a wave of sales cuts after the graduation. Meanwhile, YouTubers who handle editing often maintain the Holo’s channels to retain viewer attention on edited content. Fans are also inherently biased. When a beloved Holo graduates, many viewers stop watching other channels, leading to an overall decline in viewership. These fans often follow the temperament and personality of the streamer they liked. If you’re not their top priority anymore, they might not return. And if their top priority collapses, it’s unlikely they’ll continue supporting other things. Maybe they’ll come back later—or maybe not at all. The Vtuber community is small, but oversaturated. Although overall viewership is increasing, the number of viewers shifting to Hololive isn't promising. This is due in part to the fact that many Hololive viewers are not "pure" viewers—they carry mixed expectations. With that Hololive has entered its third significant downturn, with a noticeable decline in audience engagement. This isn’t entirely due to individual performance, it's a broader industry issue. Gura’s departure has become a symbolic moment—forcing even optimists to recognize that the good times may be over. If you've followed previous commentary, you’ll recognize patterns from early 2023, mid-2023, late 2023, and now mid-2024. These moments mark key transition points. The industry’s competitive edge (moat) has eroded. Hololive focused too much on expanding and not enough on maintaining and organizing its existing structure. The industry has plateaued. Now it requires stability and professionalism to maintain customer loyalty. Hololive has become somewhat alienated from the Vtuber circle. While the Vtuber audience has grown, many of those viewers are not interested in watching Hololive. This, coupled with multiple graduations, has raised concerns about Hololive’s direction and Cover’s management. Despite attempts to polish narratives around departures, the reality reflects a lack of transparency and honesty toward both the audience and consumers. Often, Holos are left to clean up PR messes themselves, while Cover remains vague. There’s still no clear answer about whether Holos are employees or partners, and this ambiguity causes confusion. Most of the information is left for the audience to interpret—like a fragmented narrative in a Miyazaki Hidetaka game—leaving everyone guessing. So what happened? The fans deserve an official, clear explanation, but they're not getting it.

>>10295 i really think its just stress manifesting as a symptom, and in her case, coughing

long english

>>10299 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUg8IL-D7c0

>>10300 kek cute doggo

nimi lewds status?

>>10297 >The Vtuber community is small, but oversaturated. Although overall viewership is increasing, the number of viewers shifting to Hololive isn't promising. This is due in part to the fact that many Hololive viewers are not "pure" viewers—they carry mixed expectations. AI slop and hololive metrics are up overall seethe and mald

>>10297 >Hololive is experiencing a significant decline in audience engagement and brand reputation, largely due to overreliance on its box-pushing atmosphere and poor management of graduations and internal structure. The industry's saturation, lack of transparency from Cover Corp, and shifts in fan loyalty—especially following high-profile departures like Gura’s—have further eroded viewer trust and interest. Despite a growing Vtuber audience overall, Hololive’s failure to retain and attract viewers signals a need for stability, clarity, and a reevaluation of its direction. I would add Aqua into this. Stinky might make a big splash after her debut as well.

>>10303 Is it really? Is it going up faster than indie Vtubers are gaining fans? 3 months ago no one would've believed that an indie would break 90k for a model reveal but here we are today.

>Indie vtubers are gaining fans PPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

ambatukam

Ligniggers are so blatant

>>9970 It will keep on happening, EN girl graduates, moves viewers to Indie, rinse repeat. That's why we need to value the ones who choose to stay (as long as they aren't homobeggars)

Where is this fucking obvious Cover bootlicker?

>>10306 I think we need another name for ex-corpo vtubers, indie vtubers really think they are with the team here. Also i just realize that guy is the jp cuckposter, here come the filter

>>10297 Most of the problems listed in this post are still conjecture. Its gonna take a while after the next 3 graduations to see where the goodwill and general feeling around Hololive stands (especially with the unironic flesh grifters trying to turn this into another Niji situation), but as of now Hololive is still doing better than ever. Ironically so is Nimi, even having left. Not sure if her graduation attracted a bunch of new people, or brought a bunch of people back, but both Nimi and Holo are flourishing, and the same could very well happen after the next few grads show us what they're gonna do next

>>10311 it's not ex-corpo just ex-holos, and no don't mention the ones that are leeching of holos every chance they can get

>>10311 Holo akatsuki

>>10262 What cope is that? No, they seen the reveal and fucked off like the tourists they are, they don't give a shit they just follow her or mint or doki because the herd does

>>10311 Hmm... they stream during the day for me, during my break time. Day....break. Daybreak!

>>10312 There's no incentive for any Holo to remain with Cover if they get more money, more viewers and more fame outside of it. Nimi and Sen flourishing is the beginning of the end for Cover.

>>10312 HoloEN is absolutely not "doing better than ever" after losing literally their top 3 talents

>>10318 Amen...

>>10318 Fauna wasn't even close to being a top 3 talent when she'd get trashed by Ina in merch and thrashed by Biboo in CCV and thrashed by her entire gen in subs

>>10320 Don't you ever get tired?

>>10320 And now she's trashing all of them in merch, CCV and sub gain rate.

>>10320 man, these fuckers aint quitting.. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>10322 >Merch What merch? Unlike cover who reliably releases merch she has nothing. Just one shitty little plush that she won't sell again >CCV Still gets beaten by HoloEN >Sub gain rate Will slow down before it even gets close to anyone not named Shiori. She won't even reach 900k this year.

The most dedicated schizo has found this place i see.

>>10322 >merch I'm not even gonna read your AI shitpost after this. She had one single merch run that was only available in the US, and you are comparing it to a billionaire company with merch available everywhere in the world, with an insane amount of merch runs and re-runs.

NIMI WON

>>10324 >What merch? >he doesn't know SNO are already preparing merch pipelines for consistent releases and they'll sell out more easily than something like ERB or Ollie. >Still gets beaten by HoloEN When was the last time Hololive had a non-event 90k outfit reveal? >Will slow down Nice delusion.

>>10317 There are still things Hololive offers that you can't do on your own. Unless the meme ex-holo alliance becomes reality with the goal of doing those same things, that will stay the case. >>10318 The trouble with this is, as of right now, they are doing better than ever. It's possible they do really get hurt by losing Gura and Moom, so you could end up being right

Some cunny debuting with Stinky. https://x.com/appare_hinata/status/1914897637037556020

>>10311 Fuck you're right that's him...my bad for not filtering the retard. Done.

>>10330 THat's litterally Shion no?

>>10329 >meme ex-holo alliance Already starting up both in EN and JP, see >>10330 and we have verified information that dooby is setting up merch for everyone

>>10332 Maybe. She's graduating 25th.

>>10332 Yes

>>10328 >SNO are already preparing merch pipelines for consistent releases and they'll sell out more easily than something like ERB or Ollie. Schizophrenia >When was the last time Hololive had a non-event 90k outfit reveal? This was an event and it was a model reveal, not an outfit reveal. Irys had hers before the 2023 unculling otherwise she would've been over 100k >Nice delusion You're the delusional one. She's only getting subs now because of Gura drama that she's leeching off of, it'll stop once the drama goes away.

>>10333 >and we have verified information that dooby is setting up merch for everyone What's this about?

>>10336 If you're going to bring up the cull then it's only fair to point out that Nimi is under the same cull, probably worse since she doesn't have corpo contacts with Youtube.

>>10332 Its good that the talent is actually doing something unique after leaving. A clear example of "difference in direction" as Cover will never (rightfully) allow her to form a unit with some rando.

Wait what happens if you filter your own ID?

>>9903 She looks long

>>10338 Nimi isn't culled otherwise she wouldn't be getting over 9k every stream.

>>10342 All EN channels are culled, dumbass.

>>10340 I just did that, my post filtered. I assume this will also filter

>>10333 Ive already predicted weeks ago, they will make a Vtuber "Circle".. not a company, just a circle

>>10330 >Aqushion would be possible again Do you think Aqua leaving (and maybe Chloe too) may have played a big role in Shion's decision to leave?

I just noticed I filtered that guy, but I was on my phone. Uh, you actually need to filter a guy again if you are using a different device.

>>10340 Die on the board, die in real life.

>muh filter Why don't you faggots just go back to reddittower if you want a Cover hugbox that bad?

ngl Nimi's new form seems a bit... prude. Like Suisei-tier prude in character design. My initial reaction was basically "this doesn't look sexy bruh"

>>10350 You're free to, and encouraged, to kill yourself

Holos have so little competition they decided to become their own competition. Sasuga the agency that always surpasses itself.

>>10351 Tits too fucking small

>>10350 Leddit nigga you been seething for 6 hours straight now. You were seething when I went to bed. JWU and you still doing dumb shit. Don't you have a job or some shit?

>>10352 Nimi won.

>>10346 Aqua definitely. Shion started showing some "signs" after Sakuna debuted.

>>10329 >they are doing better than ever Source? Without botted numbers obviously

>>10350 into the filter you go

>>10345 Forming a circle should be a good way to attract more sponsor and grow viewer. But fuck that shit if it includes Doki, bitch will only bring drama.

>>10349 They've always been Holoan. You should check twitter and how they shit on Hololive because their whore is"free"

>>10354 It's not even the boobs anon. With Fauna you can see some curves, some skin, some cleavage. This one? Too covered or something? Granted its a full nurse dress but you know what I mean.

>>10337 i can't find anything, considering its from the jp cuckposter then its probably a schizo babble

>>10346 Yeah. There was a huge risk of a bunch of holomems walking out with Coco, including Marine and obviously Hachaama, but she talked them out of it.

>>10340 filter: do a thanos to ID filter+: do a thanos the ID and responses

>>10348 brown ID brown irl

>>10346 Also I think Ame heavily influenced Gura and really pissed her off when she told her internally. There was quite a long period when Gurame just went dark and got really cold.

>>10355 wait so its the vshojofag from last thread? >ligfag+vshojofag+jpcuckposter what a combo

>>10012 There's a reason they're at the top of the Official HoloEN Power Rankings as duo God Emperors, Kiara might overtake Mori to be the sole God Emperor depending on how the rest of the year plays out

>>10366 That's red, this is brown

>>10340 daboiz keeps on winning

>>10371 Kek

Are niji still getting botted?

>>10338 >>10342 >If you're going to bring up the cull then it's only fair to point out that Nimi is under the same cull Well speaking of cull, thought this was interesting. Not the best comparison since they're different types of streams but they are a similar length. >Kanata 130k peak, 114k avg, 10k unique chatters >Nimi 93k peak, 65k avg, 15k unique chatters The difference in cull, or difference in how youtube treats EN vs JP viewers, seems consistant

>>10329 Indies can do everything Hololive can offer but Holofes size event Yes they can have their 3D sololive and for some Holos they might have one faster outside Hololive even

>>10373 Yes, this was yesterday. Only 453 people in chat over 4 hours of stream.

>>10367 Thought Ame left for personal reasons and had nothing to do with cover.

>>10368 Yeah it's the same faggot

>>10375 Who even wants a holofes-sized event? Cover wants it because it makes them money. It doesn't benefit the talents, it doesn't benefit the fans. There's plenty of larger-sized conventions that can play that role anyway.

>>10198 >>10297 See for yourselves EN vtubing "in general" has taken heavy hits and it does feel that way, but on the matter of Hololive, not at all. I hope chart-anon stuck around and we can see the graphs next month as well.

>>10371 Natty?

>>10380 ayy I rolled a good one

>>10371 Jesas. Doesn't look like he was getting anywhere near 1k without it. Also King for good measure

>>10374 The cull is on HoloEN specifically because they are JP channels with almost exclusively non JP viewers.

>>10380 It's called terminal lucidity. It's what happens when the mind and body gets a sudden second wind because it's dying. You're mistaking holoEN numbers temporarily rising because they're entering a graduation rush for an actual incline.

>>10385 you lost cuck

>>10377 I don't know why Ame left. Fauna, Chloe and Aqua all have a clear-eyed direction outside of Hololive, but Ame still seems lost. Her leaving might actually be a woman moment. It looks like she actually took the affiliate thing because she was unsure, unlike Chloe who took it because she's a greedy whore and wants more money, not ever intending to do what Ame did for Kiara.

>>10380 Is this one of those graphs that consider Biboo's daily 20k+ ccv natty because it's just her new JP fans who found her through Minecraft?

>>10380 You are showing CCV charts, where HALF OF THAT WERE BOTTED

>>10380 >that nijiEN spike

>>10387 If you ever watched Dooby you'd know that she was getting cockblocked by management 90% of the way and couldn't even reveal that she had a Grammy award or her skin color.