/o/ - Auto

"Watching Initial D is basically track time right?"

Index Catalog Archive Bottom Refresh
+
-
Name
Options
Subject
Message

Max message length: 12000

files

Max file size: 32.00 MB

Total max file size: 50.00 MB

Max files: 5

Supported file types: GIF, JPG, PNG, WebM, OGG, and more

E-mail
Password

(used to delete files and posts)

Misc

Remember to follow the Rules

The backup domains are located at 8chan.se and 8chan.cc. TOR access can be found here, or you can access the TOR portal from the clearnet at Redchannit 3.0 (Temporarily Dead).

Ghost Screen
Celebrating its fifth anniversary all September


8chan.moe is a hobby project with no affiliation whatsoever to the administration of any other "8chan" site, past or present.

(14.23 KB 480x360 hrLsnR8gNiA.jpg)

Unpopular /o/pinions thread Anonymous 01/21/2016 (Thu) 04:21:32 Id: cf9b63 No. 7948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrLsnR8gNiA Every other board gets one, so we might as well have an unpopular opinions thread of our own. Some of the ones I have >I don't understand the appeal of cars/engines that have a "peaky power band" or setups with lots of turbo lag. Why the hell would you want to WAIT until you have gone through 70% of your revs before you get any significant power? >I think twin charging, when done right, is currently the best way to gain more power out of an engine and that it should be utilized more. twin charging>twin turbo>supercharging>NA>one small turbo>shit>one giant turbo with massive turbo lag. Also, it has dat amazing sound when done right (embed related) >AWD>RWD, though FWD is still my least favorite and my favorite car is still RWD oddly enough >the only Ferrari cars I like are the 312t and F40 >my favorite engine configuration is V10 >Despite what I have seen others claim, both inside and outside /o/, the absolute biggest "poser sports car" is the Toyota Celica (and Scion tc since they're basically the same car) with an automatic transmission. At least Civic-fags actually mod their cars even if most of the mods are only aesthetic, and mustangs are still RWD >even though I'm usually a massive classics-fag when it comes to cars, I unironically think that Lambo has been better during the last 10 years or so than they have at any other point in their history >I'm not a fan of the Camaro inb4 "muh turd-gens" >My second favorite car manufacturer is that one that the board owner put a filter on because he's a faggot. Yes they are retarded a lot of the time, but at least they haven't started half-assing the auto enthusiast market like other companies have *cough* Mitsubishi *cough*. The Dart is my dream DD >LS swaps are supremely overdone, especially on small japanese sports cars. If you want a Corvette C5, then buy a fucking Corvette C5! Please leave the RX7/8, 240sx and 300zx alone, as its already hard enough finding ones with original engines that still work and haven't been fucked with.
>>7948 *The 1972 Dart is my dream DD. derp
(6.78 KB 480x360 I5ZIomet8Yk.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5ZIomet8Yk >>7948 >LS swaps are supremely overdone, especially on small japanese sports cars. If you want a Corvette C5, then buy a fucking Corvette C5! Please leave the RX7/8, 240sx and 300zx alone, as its already hard enough finding ones with original engines that still work and haven't been fucked with. HOLY FUCK THIS >Porsche 911 with engine missing >lol swap an LS in there :^) >SL600 with a bad but fixable engine >lol 7.3 is too much for my pocket lemme put a LS in there (check the video for what you can make a 90s 7.3 AMG engine sound like btw) >R32 that just blew its engine in two >Nah fuck the RB series mang ima get one of those dang ol' whatchamallcallit LS thangs Whenever someone talks about LS-swapping a car with a perfectly good engine my opinion of them immediately drops to utter hatred and the rest of their opinions turn into trash.
LS engines belong in everything, HDMi genocide best day of my life
>>7952 >HDMi kek guessing you meant JDM
I like GM.
>>7951 >that V12 sound
>>7948 >I don't understand the appeal of cars/engines that have a "peaky power band" or setups with lots of turbo lag. Why the hell would you want to WAIT until you have gone through 70% of your revs before you get any significant power? Sometimes its just the natural powerband of the engine. And besides who wants to spend another weekend dissambling an engine just so you can dremel a small hole on the intake so the air flows better improving mid range and mpg gains of .000001 >I think twin charging, when done right, is currently the best way to gain more power out of an engine and that it should be utilized more. twin charging>twin turbo>supercharging>NA>one small turbo>shit>one giant turbo with massive turbo lag. Also, it has dat amazing sound when done right (embed related) What the fuck is twin charging? Dual FI setups? Twin turbo would be considered twin charged. Also Variable turbos are taking a huge leap forward. >AWD>RWD, though FWD is still my least favorite and my favorite car is still RWD oddly enough AWD is no better than RWD. >my favorite engine configuration is V10 >My second favorite car manufacturer is that one that the board owner put a filter on because he's a faggot. Yes they are retarded a lot of the time, but at least they haven't started half-assing the auto enthusiast market like other companies have *cough* Mitsubishi *cough*. The Dart is my dream DD I agree. Ever since FIAT took over they have been doing real good. Fucking turbo civic/corolla destroyer, first fucking small pickup with a diesel and the srt cherokee and hellcat. >LS swaps are supremely overdone, especially on small japanese sports cars. If you want a Corvette C5, then buy a fucking Corvette C5! Please leave the RX7/8, 240sx and 300zx alone, as its already hard enough finding ones with original engines that still work and haven't been fucked with. Why use a crap engine when there are better engines out there?
(31.25 KB 480x360 4birhPB5Twk.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4birhPB5Twk >>7958 >what is twin charging embed related >twin turbo would be twin charging no. just, no. The tl;dr explanation is its a supercharger with a turbocharger. The SC takes care of the low rev range, the turbo comes on during the mid-range, and then the SC turns off leaving the turbo to take it through the rest of the rev range. Twin turbos can KIND OF get close to accomplishing the same thing, but you'd either get less initial power increase with the 1st turbo than with a SC or end up with turbo lag. Real life examples of twincharging are the Lancia Delta S4 >AWD is no better than RWD depends on what you're using it for. >Why use a crap engine when there are better engines out there? >talkin shit about the VG series engines say that to my face fukr not online and see what happens I feel like I should clarify that I do indeed like LS engines and think that GM can make some great engines, but what I like even more is seeing variety in both the modding culture and car culture as a whole.
>>7957 Same engine that was used in the Pagani Zonda, just with a different exhaust set-up.
Turbocharged Straight-3's make my dick hard.
I would gladly trade in Buick for Pontiac any day of the week. >constantly teasing, but never delivering on, a new Grand National, because it's the last Buick ~30 years that was EVER worth a shit It's trash. I want my fucking 2017 G8/GTO/Trans Am already.
>>7969 I miss them too. It's a shame though, because where I live, it seems like Pontiacs reliably attract horrible, negligent owners. To the point that I eventually just ruled out ever buying a used Pontiac, because I could never find one that hadn't been turned to shit.
>>7958 >Why use a crap engine when there are better engines out there? Of course. Everything that is not an LS is a crap engine, right?
>>7963 If you mean a Justy with a EF12+T, then sure!
superchargers are for faggots
>>7987 Agree somewhat, they eat a fuckton of power to make power. It's a catch 22.
>Unpopular opinions **I like my Scion TC. it has decent grunt and power output for a 87 octane 4 cyninder engine. Thing also handles well enough for a FWD, and I firmly believe that it could be a awesome euro-style N/A hot hatch rallycar if another 10-15,000 sheckels are thrown at it but I grew up on a RWD car and plan on replacing it with a FRS in the near future. May greentext about it. stay tuned.
>>7951 you forgot >e30 >BRAHH YOU SHOULD TOTALLY STANCE THAT SHIT OUT DUUUUUUDE
(228.03 KB 1024x768 P1000776.jpg)

>>7987 >being this gay I get the point of the thread but jesus muh chrome and low rpm Idling
>>7987 >low end torque >ever a bad thing
(315.46 KB 2284x2028 1452963986464.jpg)

electronic stability control and traction control was a mistake.
(54.97 KB 980x419 Power-windows.jpg)

This maybe an unpopular opinion for normies, but I do not like Power Windows, every single person I know, and I mean every single person, no matter what make/model their car was, has had power window issues, button issues, regulator issues.etc Call me old fashioned, but I'd rather stick to regular crank windows, never had a problem with the,, neither did anyone else I know with crank windows
>>8274 My main issue with crank windows is they're typically built with economy in mind so you'll get a cheap, wobbly, plastic piece of shit for a crank handle. A nicely machined crank made to a high standard of quality would be very nice.
>>8313 That's been my thing as well, crank windows are fine and all, just 90% of the time it's going to become loose after several months and feel like the weakest thing ever.
>>8313 >>8315 The way I see it, crank windows = simpler design = less things to go wrong And it just makes the most sense. Like, do houses have power windows? Of course they don't! You shouldn't need electricity to open and close a window.
>>8320 I agree with you there on things going wrong. I can't tell you how many times where I've been in a car only to have someone tell me "oh the thing for the window is broken so it doesn't go down."
>>8326 Wouldn't surprise me one bit if power windows are another example of planned obsolescence.
(79.97 KB 1286x725 chevy astro.jpg)

>>7948 I wanna turn my Astro van into a comfy road trip mobile like pic related
>>8328 What do you think the future of car windows will be?
(36.71 KB 498x499 1362183815022.jpg)

>>8330 >can't turn over or lie on your side at all if you sleep on the top bunk Hopefully not EXACTLY like that. Otherwise, a noble endeavor that has been done successfully enough by others
>>8340 you must be fat, dude
>>8338 I'm hardly an expert but my guess is developments will focus mainly on scratch/impact resistance and weight savings. Powered windows are here to stay and won't change in any significant way beyond perhaps voice control in the foresseable future.
>>8338 Air jets so you can have your windows open in the rain.
>>8355 Saying window up & window down is going to be great when it's raining and you want to be a dick to your friend whose with you.
>>8274 You know, I still don't understand why to this day they don't mount a separate battery inside the door panel for the windows, like a TV remote. That way you can adjust them when the engine's not on. That's the one main Achilles' heel they've always had to manual windows. The one thing that could potentially render them dangerous in the event of a crash which damages the engine/battery and you are unable to exit your vehicle through the doors.
A good quality, multi stage silver paint job is one of the best things you can put on your car. Fuck your current year style happy meme colors like mango yellow and estoril blue.
>>7959 >>7959 >The SC takes care of the low rev range, the turbo comes on during the mid-range, and then the SC turns off leaving the turbo to take it through the rest of the rev range absolute masturbatory faggotry. increase displacement. ported cylinder head. high overlap. t. automotive engineer
>>9135 You don't need a battery in the door to operate the windows without the ignition on. Have you seen cars with pillar-less doors or convertibles in which windows lower by a quarter of an inch when you open the door? or cars where the windows remain operable for 30 seconds after you turn the ignition off? That's the windows operating with the ignition off, just not how you want them to. It's just software, the only thing making the windows inoperable (by the user) when you have the keys in your pocket is the software going "nope" when you press the switch.
I dislike EFI, and here's why. I get that it can compensate for changes in conditions more quickly and accurately than a carb, but with that comes a lot of extra shit you have to add. And all that extra shit, every sensor, every relay, every solenoid, every connection, every millimeter of extra wire, every single component on the circuit board of every control unit, and whatever the hell else you have to add becomes a failure point. Many of which can cause a single point failure. For people in my line of work, that's a dirty word. I understand that it's solid enough nowadays that such a failure is exceedingly unlikely, but I'd rather avoid the risk. I'm not saying get rid of it, just that I avoid it if possible in my own builds. although I will say EFI in classic cars is sacrilege t.former usnavy reactor electronics technician
>>14492 This. Carbs were much easier to maintain in garage, while if any part of efi unit kills itself, you are screwed 95% of the times.
>>14489 Your opinion's not unpopular, most people drive boring cuck colours like black, grey, silver, beige, etc because they're afraid of displaying any masculine energy. Bright colours are for Chads who aren't afraid to be bold and high visibility.
>>7948 I think the NC miata is quite nice and a whole lot of thought was put into it. It's also built for manlets, which I am, so it's cool.
>>7948 >Why the hell would you want to WAIT until you have gone through 70% of your revs before you get any significant power? With the right gearing, that's only a problem in 1st gear, after which you can stay in the power band. I agree that extreme cases of this are pure shit, though. >LS swaps are supremely overdone I agree I have a huge boner for turbo diesels and I think more sports cars should have aluminum block diesel engines. My favorite car would be an Ariel Atom with a 1.4l TDi.
It should be legal in Europe to register a vehicle with no missing sales/registration papers. I am currently restoring a 125cc Minsk, and the papers are from 1991. Kolhoz signed the sales paper, but did not give it to the police for registration. I have the papers, will report back this week to see where this leads.
>>15546 Typo: >with no/missing sales/registration
>>15533 Loud colors are half assed middle ground for wannabe Chads that are afraid to go full Itasha
>>15549 Unpopular opinion: Itasha is god tier taste visual modding
>>8313 I have a 97' BMW that still has a crank and holy fucking shit on the backseat side these things take so much strength to crank up. The front ones are fine though, its been a long long time since I've dealt with cranks
>>14489 Its just dull, only reason I've never cared for them. I like colors such as >>15533 mentions like blue or red. I do however love black but every car I've owned except for my current one have had that color so its nice to change it up.
>>15546 That doesn't seem unpopular to me at all. A lack of government oversight would make everything easier, especially owning cool autos. >>15554 Sounds like a good opportunity to get big arms.
>>15549 I would go full itasha if I could make it into a livery sort of thing. However, aren't itasha just regular cars with a vinyl wrap? How much money goes into that, exactly? Does anyone daily an itasha? Inquiring minds wish to know.
>>15568 a standard wrap can set you back a couple of grands, don't know about itashit
>>celica biggest poser car The 2ZZ-GE seems like a pretty cool engine 1ZZs can fuck off though
>>7948 >Stock is the lamest possible look for a car and improved by practically any customization at all. >The more chrome details, the better. You literally cannot overdo them. >Big rims are irrelevant, only the overall size of the tires matters. >Flame paintjobs are cool. >Fins would improve literally every single car ever made. No exceptions.
>Stance looks good >American V8s sound bad >Tesla is the most important car company of the decade >Naturally aspirated is just an expesnive way to go slow
Unpopular opinion I like the 03 and 04 mustangs over the 05 and new ones.
The two stroke engine is a superior concept, bested only by variable displacement wankel overhead valves should fuck off
Diesel engines are better for small cars than gasoline engines.
(102.19 KB 800x600 Terminator-Mustang.jpg)

>>15944 No, pretty sure that's a patrician /o/pinion. '05 Mustang was a cheap, nostalgic cashgrab that took the original design and fattened it up. The one before it may have been on a 25 year old chassis, but it was a hell of a lot more fearsome.
>>15949 The mustang boomers will say is "not a real mustang" The kid next door to me has one he modded a bunch, seems to enjoy himself with it,
>>15948 It´s not unpopular in EU.
>>15751 >>Stock is the lamest possible look for a car and improved by practically any customization at all. While it is easy to make cars look worse than stock (see: what black people do to their cars), almost any kind of reasonable customization is an improvement. >>The more chrome details, the better. You literally cannot overdo them. Agreed. Everything should be shiny and chrome. >>Big rims are irrelevant, only the overall size of the tires matters. Big rims are a necessary evil for getting bigger brake rotors. Nothing screams "I'm an idiot" quite like oversized rims and regular rotors. >>Flame paintjobs are cool. It goes with item 1. Not my style, but better than stock >>Fins would improve literally every single car ever made. No exceptions. I'm unclear whether you're referring to wings or Finnish people, but both are correct. Some of my own now: >Diesel sports cars are pure sex >All electronics are bad. ABS just makes people slide out at higher speeds. >EFI, like other electronics, is also bad. Injection is great, but it should be mechanical. >Modern interiors are dumb. You should have gauges for everything, and chrome toggle switches are the epitome of dash controls >All interior lights should be red, and backlit gauges should be banned. I would like to be able to see at night. >It should be considered self-defence, and thus legal, to hunt down and shoot people who use HID bulbs and don't dip the high beams when there's oncoming traffic. This is probably not that unpopular of an opinion >I unironically like super eurobeat
Lowering your car is completly stupid, not because I think it looks ugly or anything, but because, by lowering your center of gravity, you lose downforce and therefore lose traction, this is specially relevant in FWD cars. >inb4 muh cornering Most Ricers just care about acceleration in a straight line.
(75.60 KB 520x347 28630_38c28a6f296.jpg)

>>15959 >higher center of gravity means more downforce You sure on this? I am not. A little lowering is ok, there might be a reason why are all asphalt-only sportscars so low. If Formula One and some others did not have restrictoins, cars would be so low you could hardly fit a paper page under them. Pic somewhat related, sport Volgas.
>>15960 Yes, by lowering your car you sacrifise downforce on the wheels, but gain a big advantage when cornerning. Since ricers don't really care about cornering, they should not lower their cars if they had half a brain
>>15963 >by lowering your car you sacrifise downforce on the wheels I think you're horribly confused. How the fuck does lowering your center of gravity give you less aerodynamic downforce?
>>15963 >Yes, by lowering your car you sacrifise downforce on the wheels It's the opposite. Why do you think F1 are so low?
>>15948 What >>15952 said Some of the diesel engines in EU are insanely good and have a lot of power for their size. There's 1.0 Ecoboost shitbox engines that produce over 130hp. It actually makes diesel shitboxes more fun to drive in city and even country roads and you tend to get the benefits of having a cheapass car to run Merkel naturally wants to put an end to all this and spoil it for the rest of EU
>>15976 1 liter overboosted engines, particularly 3-cyl ones, are silly at no matter what horsepower figure. They tend to not live longer than 5-6 years at best, then it's a full rebuild.
>>15982 >6 years and rebuild I have a 16 yo Renault Clio 1.2 dci which still runs like a charm with only regular maintenance, but thanks for your insight.


Forms
Delete
Report
Quick Reply