>buying cars with the intention of crashing them >crashing cars >ever Jesus christ, what's wrong with people? It's everyone I talk to these days. >ohh SUV's aren't that bad anon, they're bigger and safer, and you can see more out of them, therefore they're safer!! >I won't buy anything without a five star safety rating! >old cars are deathtraps! Since when did everyone fixate so much on crashing? Driving is safer than ever*, statistically, yet people seem completely fixated by it now, not to mention shitty manufacturer fuel consumption numbers. Also: >"given that sports cars have high crash statistics, it's important that…" >casually lumping (and shitting all over) a grand tourer in with muscle cars And again: >driving cars to crash The only crash tests you should be interested in are car/car crash tests, ergo two free moving bodies in 2D space, because if you crash your car into a wall, you done fucked up big time and should've driven better. >inb4 someone posts that awful bel air crash test (read: advertisement for the malibu) another fucking time in an attempt to be topical and relevant *"…this is just about the safest time to travel on America’s roads in the history of America’s roads,” "…Our fatality rate is at its lowest point ever.” -Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx

>>9456 >INB4 "ohhh but anon who cares what the plebs are fixated on these days, you can still buy and drive whatever you like, its a free country lel" I'm calling it now. These types of attitudes are going to be perfectly placed when the time comes to help ensure that automated cars become mandatory and manual driving restricted or illegal eventually in the name of safety. These useful idiots and sinister freedom haters will sign away yet another of our dwindling rights, and if the current world is anything to go by, the EU will be the first. As the 1965 Mustang freed a generation from isolation and small town life by making driving mainstream, so will the new one help usher us into a new age of infantilization and impaired human agency. Just you watch, and watch is all we'll do because there are no amendments protecting our rights to real cars. >"whats the problem, you can still take your old gas guzzler out for a spin on a private track, no-one's stopping you from having fun anon, don't you just feel so much safer this way?" RIP freedom, the open road and the mighty V8, and god have mercy on all of us consigned to watch them die a slow and awful death.

>>9457 So they're going to take my guns and my cars? I might as well die. The only reason I ever care to make money is to get a car or 2 and a bunch of fun guns.

>>9457 There will always be Australia, anon…

>>9457 >>9458 Also, I remember when I was younger listening to Rush's Red Barchetta that the concept behind the song was one of the most horrifying scenarios I could ever imagine. But then I stopped fretting because I realized it was a piece of fiction. Alarmingly, as the days continue to progress, it seems like Rush's vision may soon have the potential to become a reality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAvQSkK8Z8U (someone already posted it in another thread)

>>9460 Would a rally car make a better Mad Max car than anything they use in the movies? That or trucks. \ Guess that's not as cool though.

>>9460 http://vocaroo.com/i/s1RkFGNcT5qZ

>>9462 Too much electronics. Pics related are good apocalypse cars.

>>9467 How's a 16 year old Outback have less electronics than a gen 1 STI? You can't mean the chip alone would fuck you over? Sure a turbo might not be the best in a super hot…yeah fuck it you're right. I guess the 71 Mustang would do fine by me. If I can deal with a solid axle and shit turning. the one Hammond used in Argentina was pretty mad max looking. Dame shame it's now rotting away with the other 2 cars…I tell myself they got them back to make me feel better.

>>9461 http://www.mgexp.com/article/nice-drive.html http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/11/sunday-stories-the-controller-by-bark-m/

>>9457 >>9458 imo, if the current way we're going in America will continue into the future, I'd expect that cars of the past will be drivable, but you're fucked once you crash into some automated windowless egg-shaped blob. The parts for the older vehicles will steadily dry out in supply, while the fiscal incentives become more obvious to jump to a more modern vehicle. If ICE and/or vehicles without autonomous modules will be taxed to death. But even in the far future, mopeds will still be restricted to 50cc at 25Mph :^) The future is a really boring dystopia.

>>9471 >I tell myself they got them back to make me feel better. Sorry bro, but what a goddamn pussy you are. That car died a noble death, being used way beyond what it was designed to. The best way to die, and a much better fate than being left to rot in some rich fucker's garage or a museum. I loathe seeing magnificent machines, designed to be driven or raced around, being reduced to pieces to ogle at. It's disrespectful of the engineering and passion that went into making them in the first place. If you want conservation, then document the building process and the parts. Way more sustainable.

>>9489 > a much better fate than being left to rot in some rich fucker's garage or a museum. Now they're rotting in a police parking lot till they rust out and are crushed. How is that a better fate? since they had a last few miles of fun?

>>9494 Well, yes. Not as good as a proper death, a nice crash always looks more dramatic, but still better than being reduced to a statue.

>>9495 Too each his own. What do they do with all the challenge cars anyway? A few were on display on the show and I know Hammond took that one car home and still drives it, but do most of them end up in a scarp yard? half the time they look like they were heading that way. Maybe they sell them as parts? I don't recall them ever saying on the show if they keep them.

>>9499 I don't know, I think the production keeps them (perhaps to sell them later on to autists with a lot of money) as this article seems to imply http://petrolblog.com/2011/05/whatever-happened-to-top-gear-challenge-cars/ Also I've read that the argentina challenge cars will be auctioned after a few years if the BBC doesn't recover them, so maybe we'll have the first taste of how much money someone can drop on such a car.

>>9467 You posted the Berton made Volvo which came with all the typical Italian 80's build quality, just so you know. >>9489 >>9495 Your posts remind me a post on /k/ saying not to feel bad about the guns being used in nigger Africa Wish I had the screen cap of it. >>9504 What if TGT buy them at the auction and try to get them back to Bolivia. Would be a great episode I think

>>9461 It's already too late, friend. The automated self driving car is the perfect surveillance solution. It's like driving around with a member of the Stazi right there with you, except it works for free. Imagine, in 20 years, cameras on every street, all uploading data to the corporations and the NSA. Even if the government didn't get it, now Google knows where you are digitally via tracking cookies, their browser and search engine, and also in real life, via their phones and their cars (number plate recognition is a solved problem in computer vision). The dystopia is dead ahead, and the engine is screaming and stuck at full throttle.

>>9576 It's a Brave New World.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SbrY4v7Kxk

I can't wait till we start mass-scrapping post-2005 shitboxes. IMHO the only cars made thereafter that are worth saving are the GT-R, the performance Dodges (SRT-10, Hellcat), the big Lambos (because they're the only brand that truly understands the concept of "evolution"), the last gasps of Aussie muscle (i.e. VXR8/whatever it was called in cuntland) and maybe, just maybe the current Mustang. '05 - '12 model still has to go though Everything else can go to hell. The Jukes, the Qashqais, the non-mini Minis, the full-on rape of the Mitsubishi brand post-Evo IX, the total destruction of the Subaru brand, most Mercs after the R129 finished, every Porsche after the 993 I don't hate the 996 that much anymore, every Ferrari after the 360/Enzo, every Bangle Beemer post-E46 Joji Nagashima should have become BMW's lead designer, not him, every Lancia after the original Delta ceased in mid-'93, every Corvette after the C5 finished and took pop-ups with it, the list keeps going. And they all deserve to be hunted to extinction, maybe with a few cautionary examples left of what happens when you let society and technology dictate the design of your car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkgTSaSLO6I it still doesnt stop me from doing 165 on the autobahn.

>>9580 At least in BNW they were allowed to fly helicopters

>>16568 Save the Dacias. Renault did a great job keeping them low on electronics, on a reliable mecanical base.

Can we not make an open sores car that's based on the combustion engine and refuses to use anything electrical beyond pumps and headlights?

>>16577 >pumps just use mechanical pump

>>16579 But I don't mind if an EMP event only takes out the air conditioning

>>16577 A radio would be nice too. >inb4 "the engine is the only thing you need to hear" I love the sound of a carburetor just as much as the next guy, but I also like playing the radio when I take a ride.