I don't think moralfagging is the issue, it's more of the fact that it's hard to take any stance seriously if it's being spouted by someone's who's purpose is drawing stupid, childish, embarrassing tickle fetish porn.

>>97619 This

>>97619 >muh decorum Leader of the free world is epstein's best buddy, we're past the point of giving a shit

>>97624 This is exactly what I'm talking about. You're making a fool of yourself and your beliefs if you're smugly sperging about them in any sort of fetish community. If people already felt mixed on them to begin with, they're probably just gonna take the opposing side on the basis of "Why is this autism spreading into my gooning". There's no point other then making yourself look like an idiot. Unless Trump and Epstein were drawing tickle porn who gives a fuck. Everyone stopped caring about the files after they got released and it was just Epstein sperging about Trump and crying cause he had nothing on him.

>>97625 You realize the modern 8chan started because of gamers throwing a tantrum over video games journalism? And then after migrating to 8kun, the community moved to this version of 8chan because they got extremely upset at not being able to post lewd drawings of 2d japanese cartoon girls anymore. Wow you just explained why no one cares about gamergate or loli defenders.

>>97626 Who the fuck cares about 8Chan. This is TKR, we're here to jack off to tickling. Anything that isn't directly related to that (I.E. Moralfagging like you are) is regarded as retarded around these parts.

>>97626 you don't belong here

>>97626 >Can feel my hate thread about to devolve into another pedos v. moralniggers debate thread >This niggas bringing up the gaymergate >TDS is steady >Heebs yeet >Epstein's brain spaghetti

>>97626 TICKLEFAGS RISE UP!

At risk of sounding pretentious does anyone else think there's a visible difference in the works of ticklefag artists vs artists who happen to be ticklefags? does that make sense?

>>97736 I assume you mean "ticklefag artists" as in artists who primarily draw tickle fetish art, and "artists who happen to be ticklefags" as in artists who focus on other fetishes (Feet, Belly, Bondage, BDSM, etc) but also throw in tickling stuff occasionally? If that is the case, depends on the artist. To make good tickle art you need to have a good understanding of tickling and a good understanding of art. Even if you're only good at one, so long as you still understand the other a little it's usually gonna end in a decent piece. But I'm not really sure what you're saying. Don't know what the groups you're talking about are, and I don't know what the difference is. Please elaborate.

>>97740 I mean in the sense someone who draws because they genuinely enjoy doing it and also happens to be a tickle fetishist vs someone who learned to draw with the intended goal of making fetish art from the get go, I guess.

>>97742 And what do you think the difference between the art of the two is?

>talking to non artist friends >"bro you gotta check out this artist their art is amazing and their anatomy is so good!!" >check artist >their entire gallery is just them tracing over the default female CSP 3d model >their characters are never wearing any clothes because the 3d model doesn't have clothes on them and they can't draw what they can't trace >mention this to friend >AT LEAST ITS NOT AI DUDE THEY COULD BE MAKING AI ART OK??? thanks AI for lowering the bar to rock bottom for everyone else I guess

>>97736 It’s a very vague question but I’ll try to answer. The huge difference between the types you mention is their objectives. The dichotomy lies in the very reason they draw in the first place. Both are easily detectable, and both have good and bad sides. -the ticklefag artist is obsessed by the very idea of tickling. When he draws, it’s to masturbate. Wether directly, or through his interaction with the community at large. In art, it is mostly visible through the style itself, as it is often not caring about the details, focusing on the details of the soles rather than a feeling supposed to be conveyed by the piece. This can make for some good porn and very carefree people, but it can also make a lot of talentless hacks that we used to put in cringe compilations ten years ago. -the artist who happens to be a ticklefag is well, an artist. Their first objective isn’t to tickle X or Y, it’s to DRAW for the love of the art itself. They want to become good because they want you to feel the same sort of depraved shit they have going through their head. They learn what looks good and what doesn’t, and then they go one of two routes: - The dopamine addicted artist isn’t here to become good anymore, he’s here to be an influencer. His style stagnated, his drawings have become more palatable to what he deems to be the bigger number, he draws the flavor of the month whenever possible. He’s no artist anymore, he’s a carpet seller. (Most take this route because most artists are broke). - The real artist keeps going. Even after he’s become good, his quest to become even better does not end. He gets into projects he never finishes for the sake of trying it out and not making a product, he doesn’t feel the need to upload every X period. He’s free to draw what he wants and he will make it good, because making it good is what he wants. That doesn’t mean he’s not into it and he dick doesn’t go hard at the thought of destroying lolis, but he does it with taste. (cf. triangles3)

>>97801 As a dopamine addicted artist how does one transcend into the territory of 'real artist'? Is my case terminal? Is there any hope for me?

>>97825 >>97801 Uhh yeah there's hope for both of you Step 1:

>>97825 >how does one transcend into the territory of 'real artist' art class? You'll likely never be a pro but I feel like there are basics that would almost HAVE to result in improvement if you put forth effort.

>>97825 brother if you draw art, you are an artist. if you studied anatomy and can depict the beauty of a human figure as best YOU can, you are an artist. don't let these fake fucks tell you how to live your life. the two people in this community that I know that have gone on similar tirades about "real artists" and "fake artists" and even burned bridges over this mentality are not only still drawing fetish art to this day, but is now doing it for absolutely anyone, even people they dislike, as long as they got a couple bucks to throw at them. now that's what a real fake artist is if you ask me. you listen to me anon, you draw what you want. draw what makes you happy, draw what you have fun drawing. that's what art is. that's where the joy of creating something you're happy with comes from. what's the point of painting a landscape or a photorealistic portrait if you didn't enjoy doing it? why force yourself to draw things you don't want to draw, to appease some fuck ass random guy on an imageboard who's talking about cracking lolis? now can we PLEASE go back to hating on cringe ass tickling artists? I'd take another kamfer wolf post at this point

>>97825 You're already a real artist if you draw and enjoy doing it. No matter how shitty it is that's always the case. Real artist is different from good artist. Good is of course subjective, but if you always strive to improve and accept feedback then that qualifies you as good in my book. >>97841 >now can we PLEASE go back to hating on cringe ass tickling artists? I'd take another kamfer wolf post at this point I enjoy discussions like this but they don't fit this thread at all. It'd be nice to have a proper criticism thread. This thread is usually issues with the artist as a person and not an artist. A thread where we can talk about general art concepts as well as the strengths and failings of certain artists (Whether they ask for opinions or if someone just decides to say it) would be fun.

>>97847 there IS an art critique thread, people, (usually the ones that get posted here the most) seem to think that if they slide post and off topic shit so much they wont get talked about. fake arguing about loli or fake arguing about real art or whatever is this board's version of the banana picture and andy sixx at this point.

>>97848 Which one is it?

>>97850 >>>94835 no one uses it though

>>97851 I've seen it be one of the more active threads in recent times. It's seems more for beginner artists learning how to draw/what they need to focus on most + sharing general art tips. What I'm talking about is more so picking more established artists and pointing out the flaws in there art, what there strengths are and what weaknesses they have. I guess if that other thread is inactive or not used for that purpose, might as well make a new one.

>>97857 If that thread ever gets made, I'd love for people to dissect my work. I'm sure I've made that abundantly clear by now, lol. Specifically from folks on this board, because you guys are motherfuckers when it comes to being honest. I should mention though, specificity matters quite a bit if you want to be genuinely constructive. I'm guilty of being a bit defensive when people just quote different fundamentals without actually providing any insight into how they're being misused.

>>97860 You just gotta keep on posting your art and asking for critique. Just every piece, post it and make sure to ask. That's the best way to get advice that'll help you improve.

>>97862 The problem with prompting people for crit who aren't deliberately seeking to criticize my work is that the default answer for a lot of people is "Looks good, chief! Keep it up!" Which is actually pretty detrimental to my creative process. It makes it harder to parse through the positive feedback to actually identify where I can improve. I appreciate the support I receive, don't get me wrong, but the amount of "Looks good chief!" to actionable feedback is about 20:1, so having a thread where people are specifically looking to dissect artists' work, I hope, would breed a different environment.

>>97860 bro just turned off his name and then made the thread and turned it back on and posted within 1 minute and thought we wouldn't notice lmaooo there's already a thread for critique an criticism it was JUST linked. duplicate topic threads get deleted on imageboards usually

>>97874 Check the IDs, homie. I'm a narcissistic piece of shit enough already, you don't need to make up conspiracies to affirm that idea. And if I did make that thread, I def wouldn't have used that picture of Violet lmaooo

>>97874 Nah that was me who made it. Put one of his works as the thread image cause I thought it screamed "Wow there's a lot to work on". (No offense) As far as "Duplicate thread" goes: Artist tip thread is for beginner artists learning how to draw, critique thread is to point out fucked up parts of art that would otherwise be good (And how to fix it). Former is learning how to cook, latter is explaining what could've been done to prevent the brisket from being burnt and dry. I think the difference warrants the separation of the two threads, but if not that's for the jannies and TKR base to decide. I'm fine either way.

>>97880 >>97878 100 percent samefagging

Glad the Artist Hate Thread is Back On Track!!

>>97880 i didn't even know that was his image. bro DEFINETLY still needs to learn how to draw. that isnt someone who just needs to refine their art, thats someone who needs to watch a "how to draw for beginers" youtube tutorial. go to that thread thrafec, you need to learn your basics. >>97878 >check the IDs lmao yep. definetly samefagging. bro made a thread on his phone and posted on his pc and thought we wouldnt nottice

>>97886 Bruh, that face isn't even my linework. It's a redline another anon did of a sketch that was completely reworked for an exercise that wasn't even meant to be posted anywhere but here for the express purpose of my practice. Wild shit on this board today.

>>97887 >Posts this picture like it will validate his point Let me hold your hand when I say this, its incredibly apparent you need to learn the basics. This isn't an attack on you, no one is throwing shade at you. I am telling you that your ego is getting in the way of your progress as an artist. You don't need to refine your art, its very apparent that you need to literally learn the most fundamental basics. You'll either realize this now, and you could start learning and improving now or you'll realize this way further down the line and start learning waaaay later than you could have been.

>>97886 I thought it was IP based? If I can use my phone and pc to samefag that opens a whole new world of wild possibilities... >>97887 It's not worth getting worked up over. Like a couple of people just thinking you're samefagging and think your art is shit (It is, but you're learning, improving quick, and end of the day taking more initiative then most other people on the board so it's fine). It's objectively hilarious. Don't sweat it man. This is the artist hate thread though so go fuck yourself nigger