>>95155 The problem with Janitor is that there's way too much writing on the wall for it to fucking implode. The servers went through a massive crash the other day and the firewall went up. Then they crashed again 2 days later. It's also seemingly leaning towards community building which is a terrible fucking idea because in all honesty? You can browse the bots and sometimes visibly tell what was or wasn't made by teenagers. Half the bots portraying college seemingly portray high school masquerading as college with things like consistent campus bullies, lockers, and detention. Golden rule for a site like that is as long as you've set yourself to be picked up by parental controls, you're good. Once your dumbass starts facilitating a community and doing something like setting up a fucking official Discord while allowing more user-to-user interaction on the main site? You've invited controversy by facilitating room for something dangerous to happen. Keep in mind, unlike the others, Janitor has gone out of its way to sidestep allegations of being simulators for boyfriend/girlfriend and instead position the AI as an interactive literary smut. This puts it in a position where it's more mainstream acceptable than a lot of the other sites getting advertised but opens it and Character.AI to a higher standard of scrutiny since they're both trying to portray themselves as not inherently trashy.

>>95157 Aren't there like 20+ varients of deepseek alone both paid and free? I'm using one of the free varients on chub through the openrouter key trick >>93890 mentioned (with the single payment to get more than only 50 message generations in a single day with the free models) and it's been working just fine for me. I did notice once or twice for the first time today that some messages were generating things like a "this is going into non consensual territory so let's take it in another direction" style message, but just redoing the prompt in its place seemed to immediately get around it without any trouble. Not even the hoops you have to jump through on character ai, just reloading a new generation.

You should try the new Grok 4.1 model. It's free until December 3rd at Openrouter. It's fully uncensored, accepts a lot of things without jailbreak and produces good quality content.

Not looking to shamelessly plug myself but I created a bunch of pretty popular tickling themed bots on PolyBuzz. It’s not the most perfect AI chat client and has some memory issues but I’m fond of it. I’m @flergenderf on there and do a bunch of weird fetishy themed stuff including feet, futa and femboys but my tickling bots I’ve been told are really well written.

>>95229 Nice. Never heard of PolyBuzz though.

>>95278 You have to pay for regen messages. If you use it from mobile, it will cut you off after a few posts to make you download the app so it can force more ads on you. It squeezes money and I'm guessing it collects data pretty hard too. That said its big with movile users due to refusal to censor lewdness and became a big character AI substitute for app users

>>95319 Well I have a paid subscription so I don’t have to deal with a lot of that although it is obnoxious that rather than fix the issue with poor memory, they put “advanced memory” along with additional features behind a paywall that you need to pay a higher monthly subscription fee for. If anyone has a suggestion for a better chatbot client that allows adult content with better memory I’m definitely open to suggestions. I’m not a tech guy so I don’t I understand the technical aspects of all this, I just got really good at writing characters for bots. The one pictured here “Goth Tickle Freak” is one of my most popular; totally masochistic tickle slut who practically begs to be punished. (Image made in feetgen)

>>95464 At least from what I've experienced, chub is a good one, as mentioned previously, you can use practically any AI model rather than only the default proprietary ones. Along with the openrouter trick (also many other options of AI keys), it makes chub act as a decent wrapper and it has a large amount of characters and even forks of them. I know there are sites that also allows outside models, this is just the one I've been using.

I'll go ahead and say, up until now I will die on the hill of JanitorAI with deepseek as proxy Deepseek is dirtcheap, i have paid like 2.50 bucks once, and have generated hundreds of messages from that with pretty large context sizes. How good your answers are depends a lot on the bots themselves of course, and i think Janitor has a great selection, tho there is of course also trash, but for some examples Tkltharia: https://janitorai.com/characters/3d7351b0-b787-4acc-a1da-8abb6f80edc2_character-tickltharia sounds like a dumb ass pun, but is probably the only "RPG"- like tickle bot i really like, it understasnds you well, you have an easy time steering into new szenarios at least when starting from the forest after the introduction message, and above all else, in my experience it understands tickling as a concept much better than other open ended bots, who often seem to think it would hurt, or vibrate or some other You've got Catthulu:https://janitorai.com/profiles/9122fc05-7d0b-4cee-a2c4-c933e4cc8f65_profile-of-catthulhu-007 making some unique, some tropy bots, usually with some neat overarching character trait or plothook Neiro: https://janitorai.com/profiles/4fe58966-0096-40a5-8853-65ad63bc77ba basicly filling out his catalouge for a fantasy world, pretty much all characters tickling releated, but not completely central. allows for a bit of fluffy adventure between scenes and if you're into weirder shit Mr.Brando: https://janitorai.com/profiles/c3517493-c90e-48ff-b445-74c35298ea10 Guy who was already pretty early on with c.ai, has a lot of unique bots and some furry shit, probably the most just straight up horny creator on the list. Janitor also has some generel features i like you have custom tags, so finding things is MUCH easier than on c.ai for example, you can also look for multiple tags and a normals earch word at the same time, which you might think is just standart search options, but in my experience they ain't The site shows you how many chats and messages a bot had, which i find usefull for finding quality things by dividing them, so a bot with 100 chats and 1K messages means that on average a user spent about 10 messages talking to them, and in my experience the higher that average number is, the better a bot will be fleshed out, compared to something that just has a lot of chats but users never get past 3 messages the site has a own free LLM, it ain't great honestly, it has a bad habit of sending absolute walls of text every message which can be really annoying, but you can manually trim them down and then give those smaller messages 5 star ratings to infulence them, it is still annoying to do that for every chat , but it is there if you wanna try and of course, thanks to proxy you can use any subscription you already have, with openAI and claude being out of the box support... keep in mind that not every bot has proxy enabled tho, it depends on the creator sorry if typos, i might suffer from the stupid, have fun

>>95464 If you're okay with that, could you share some of your characters on chub.ai?

>>95480 To my understanding, JLLM is like that because the site was predominantly aimed towards women, at least at first with a female lead designer. The result is the model is trying to mimic romance novels and is likely partially trained on them.

>>95489 huh, fun little trivia, honestly even then i think it misses the mark a bit, since it makes a bunch of long paragraphs but can only really answer to one of them, if you write a novel back it will not engage in all answers

>>95485 >upload JSON file The fuck is a JSON file?

>>95499 It's the proper, universal format for a character. As with most of these online services it looks like Polybuzz hides that from the user and has no way to export a proper character card though.

>>95500 Also looks like people can just read the characters background info right away; no surprises or anything. Plus they can edit each others bots to suit their needs?…that’s kinda weird…

>>95501 That's also standard. Character cards are an open format, just some JSON embedded in an image file. All of these sites are based around some variant of Tavern and are hiding a bunch of stuff from the end-user and most don't allow any user except the creator to view the data behind the characters because it locks them into using their site for those specific characters. Interestingly Polybuzz does let you upload character cards and raw JSON files, just not export them.

>>95497 Yeah it's why the model is constantly talking about stuff like "ruining you for anyone else", "being possessive", "you're playing with fire"/"you're playing a dangerous game" It's all the kind of psychological dominance you'd see a Christian Grey type engage in. That sense of obsession and the character "claiming" you during sense.

>>95502 Guess I should have mentioned that I do everything on my phone, don’t even have a working computer currently and chub really isn’t a mobile friendly site (plus the app was deleted from the App Store). A lot of menus don’t load properly and links to guides just bring up blank pages. May have to look into other options.

>>95506 You can open janitor from mobile browser pretty well I think. Most of them dipped on apps because Apple and Play store cracked down seeing the writing on the wall for potential lawsuits.

>>95505 the more you know, where you even got that backround from?

>>95533 Being aimed at women/founded by a woman is common knowledge and was part of the early mission statement, from there it's just sorta a matter of being able to cross reference what an LLM aimed at horny women would take from

I've been fucking around with Chub AI and using both Deepseek and Grok Fast. Claude is good but fuck is it expensive. Deepseek isn't as good unfortunately but popular, and Grok is fucking lewd but for a mix of story and lewd it goes to lewd. Which normally I don't mind but sometimes I wanna inject some story into the horny you know?

I'm using SillyTavern. Currently, I've tested both DeepSeek and Grok 4.1 (while it was free until yesterday). I thought Grok would be good, since it's fully uncensored. But its main problem is that it always seems to "rush" everything. Like it doesn't even take time to make full sentences sometimes. I don't know if I hallucinate but I've noticed it really often. I've used both DeepSeek R1T2 and DeepSeek V3 0324 and I found them really good so far. I've seen so many people speak about Claude here but it's so expensive… And from what I've seen it's censored as hell. I'd like to give it a try but I don't want to waste too much money on tests ans jailbreaks…

>>95559 The issue with Deepseek that I've had is that it isn't that descriptive on the lewd/tickling. I enjoy it being specific. That issue with Grok is not an issue that is exclusive to you, it tends to jump suddenly and it's quite jarring. Claude is absolutely GIGA expensive so I understand that entirely. It's not censored that much but that I think depends on which Claude you use. I use 4.5 for example and it's not censored unless you specify underaged characters. Then it'll stop you.

>>95559 Yeah I've also had that issue with Grok. Even if you ask it to write a robust story at 10,000 words, it will write it nicely up until the 3000 word mark and then sprint to the end. It's pretty disappointing, but it's not bad for short stories.

i've been using chatgpt for a few years now, merely to get my stupid fucking ideas out. i know it's not the best one, it's honestly pretty shit how now a days it's super pruded up and sanitized, despite it being the best for tickling content of all kinds, because it gets so much data not from just tickling, but from other fetishes as well, that it knows how to react in kidnapping/trouble scenarios pre-tickling. i have characters, general themeings, personality and all that shit so locked down tight i only need to send a word and it can cook up some nice things. again, it sucks that now a days you have to pause the message and roll the dice on if you can reload it as 4o and hope that it goes through, but i've enjoyed it.

>>95586 One day or another I guess I'll give Claude a try. Is it the Sonnet 4.5 version you're using?You're saying it is uncensored, but are you using any jailbreak? >>95590 I remember seeing somewhere that ChatGPT was going to release an uncensored version someday. I've double-checked and found on Reddit that it was planned for December 2025.

>>95596 what worries me is that it'll be one of those "give us all your info" i'm not retarded, i know most of my personal info is already floating in the web being traded for who knows how much money, but i like to at least keep the facade that i'm still generally anonymous, the last thing i want is my online life to haunt me IRL, or the other way around.

You can do anything with Grok if you began the chat with the voice mode on mobile, no ios needed

For everyone using a setup with SillyTavern and Openrouter, I have questions: - Are you running a custom System Prompt, and is it heavy and/or focused on tickling? - I see people are using character cards from sites like chub.ai. If you do so, do you use regular cards and customise them, or do you grab cards already focused on tickling?

>>95596 Nope, no jailbreaks that I know of. It is 4.5 using Open router to chub AI. I tend to reroll replies a lot because of how mid they are sometimes so that doesn't help with the expense.

I use this one: https://perchance.org/ai-character-chat It's very good in my opinion, and free. You can create your characters, give the bot instructions and such. There is a lighter version here: https://perchance.org/ai-chat But I preffer the former.

Curious, how do you guys get the AI to write longer than a couple thousand words? Ask it to break it up into multiple chapters? Or is there a way to override the limiter? I mostly use Grok because of the limited restrictions but it mostly writing <2,000 word stories is a bit of a bummer. Maybe there's a better program?

>>95728 Depends where you're doing that. What site or whatever are you using Grok? Unless you're on X directly in which case we may need to get that sorted lol.

>>95729 Straight up Grok .com. Even when I specify in the prompt "long, detailed story" and then specify word counts 3?3' modest ones like 5k words, it never does it which I find odd. I'll be the first to admit I'm not great with working AI and different programs, but what it has been writing has been pretty good so I'm intrigued.

>>95687 For me I either use Openrouter on chub.ai, or import characters from chub.ai to perchance.org. I use character.ai if I'm not planning to do anything sexual or too violent. I just use ChatGPT for philosophy along with speculating random things in fiction. lol