>>5071 I guess that factors into it in a way. Troons are not likely to have children, and without children society will crash down. People are having too few white children as it is, so it would hasten the replacement of non-whites which will turn Europe and the US into South Africa.

>>5076 Not what I mean. I mean conservative "men" seem to need transition to be at least stigmatized or they're worried all men will troon out (because they're trans). And conservative women want to stop men transitioning because they know damn well that if it comes down to a choice nobody in their right mind would choose to be a man in current year.

>>5071 I think it's something in that vein, but it's nothing so sophisticated that they actually consider it an existential crisis or shit. There are just a lot of people who get really weird and confrontational when they encounter someone with completely different values and lifestyle than them. Like, they are just so accustomed to everyone in their daily life agreeing with them on certain things, or at least not being openly disagreeable. Sure, they know people disagree about politics. But when someone disagrees about gender roles, it's just, "What? That does not process. That is not even in the realm of the possible." And, like, as trannies, we mostly don't give a shit if people live different lives than us. We know we're outside the "norm". So it's hard for us to understand this kind of reaction. But it's an extremely visceral, deep-seated reaction. I've seen it argued that it comes from the psychological concept of "disgust", as in the defensive reaction we have that's supposed to protect us from eating moldy bread or touching leper's open sores. There's a saying "the farmer doesn't eat what he doesn't know." They don't know trannies are in the realm of the human experience, and so the reaction is like encountering uncanny-valley (not even strictly as a "hon vs passoid" thing, they find the passoid equally revolting when confronted with the reality of it, it just flies under the radar more).

>>5091 I don't think so sweety. In fact I think you should meditate on the hypocrisy of treating conservatives and trannies as monolythic things that are somehow opposed to each other. I love traditional gender roles, and I seek the tradlife for myself (I don't think I'll get it but that's what I want), that doesn't make me more or less trans, that's just who I am as a person. And conservatives don't have the monopoly on transphobia, or even just forced conformity. Leftist gatekeeping on gender affirming care is a HUGE problem. Not to mention TERFs - JK Rowling is not a conservative with entrenched ideas about gender roles.

>>5092 How did you get absolutely any of that from my post? Virtually ever case is prefixed with a qualifier to limit the generalization: >a lot of people >a lot >we mostly >mostly And I literally did not use the word "conservatives" anywhere in my post :3 I merely spoke about a certain kind of common reaction and a suspected ("I've seen it argued...") mechanism to explain it. Schizophrenia much?

>>5094 Oh I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to attack you I promise. It must just be my trauma turning me into an arsehole again. It's just, I'm a bit sick of "the war" y'know? It just hurts y'know?

>>5092 >I love traditional gender roles, and I seek the tradlife for myself (I don't think I'll get it but that's what I want), that doesn't make me more or less trans scared to trigger some manic episode by saying this, but uhh, how? cooking, cleaning and sucking dick for your roommate isn't the tradlife and fuckbuddies aren't a family I think you're just confused lay down all internet use for a month and reconsider

>>5120 Are you kidding me? spoiling a boy would be SOO fulfilling

>>5077 Um, I do though. I love being a man. I like banging trans girls, but I would never wanna be them. I like sticking my dick in people, a lot. >>5120 The fuck are you talking about, man leave her alone.

Maybe. Considering a vocal minority of trans people and activists actively distancing the identity's relationship with the actual condition of and literature on gender dysphoria, maybe that fear is not completely unfounded.

>>5128 Always be aware that internalized transphobia look a lot like ridiculous political demands and language policing. I've got internalized misogyny, picrel is what I think a woman should be.

>>5092 A conservative trans girl see something new every day Anyway i hope you have a great day sister

>>5071 It's just you. Trangenderism is both expensive and harmful to the individual. It also erodes social cohesion. That's why I'm opposed.

>>5071 I like that meme, and I often feel that way la~ >Is it just me or when conservatives make anti-trans arguments, are they secretly worried that if transition becomes normalized there'll be no cismen left? This might be part of it, you also have to consider the racial war dynamic, if Whites are to survive they have to expel non-Whites and reproduce, MtFs are unlikely to do this, especially as long as pro-White groups continue to exclude non-heterosexuals. MtF is not nearly as bad as insane FtM though... however MtF is associated with not just sterility by drugs butt also voluntary castration and other invasive surgeries. Tl;dr MtF NO-OP is the way to go, of course this board is titled Trap, and a Trap implies a male that can pass as a female WITHOUT HRT LET ALONE SURGERY la~

>>5197 Of course, cuckservatives will not admit this since they are just motivated by unconscious biological impulses and social conditioning, and Christianity la~

>>5197 Firstly, I fucking LOVE singaporeans. Secondly, don't let hate rule you. FtMs are misguided because of their female socialization. The leftist idiots are right, though they have no idea how, the way we teach boys to be boys and girls to be girls is the problem.

>>5200 A lotta truth in this, that neither side wants to hear.

>>5071 ngl i think a lot of conservatives genuinely think that trannies are creeps. likely due to the fact that (by definition) the most visible trannies tend to be the creepiest.

>>5218 Thats not even an issue exclusive to the trannie sphere tbh. I mean every letter of the lgbt has to deal with the biggest representation coming from sick fetishistic exhibitionists, who are undeniably deviants.

>>5220 very true but troons are the only ones sharing bathrooms with their daughters

>>5200 >hate I hate myself for being too weak to save myself butt I hate my enemies more. I hate because I love la~ >the way we teach boys to be boys and girls to be girls is the problem. Yes, although I'd say the box for girls has eroded significantly whereas the box for boys is as rigid as ever, really the ideal is to not excessively treat boys and girls differently as a group, butt rather interact with them as individuals. >Firstly, I fucking LOVE singaporeans. I don't hate East Asians (unlike nigaz with exception of Ye, HEIL HITELER NIGA), especially when they are in their own countries, but for Whites as a subspecies, to survive we need exclusively White territories AND/OR friendly host societies (Japan might qualify) and a religious-level strict White racial preference when it comes to who women reproduce with... and this is more important than for any other race because our genetics are the most recessive la~.

>>5224 >>5224 Blending in with the females is an alternative beta male (and almost all guys are these days, even the fake alphas) reproductive strategy, and it turns me on, a lot of trap protagonist VNs have this theme la~

>>5234 If my parents had been accepting I would have done this lol la~

>>5071 It's not "Accusation in a minor" (AiM) as much as it is plain, old projection -- the "You're a fag!" cloak of diaphanous protection against accusations of being a faggot. Most who are pre-occupied by trans, are usually either covertly or overtly attracted to transies. This, as distinct from wanting to be one themselves and using the implied feigned hate to dissuade themselves from transitioning... That [latter[ take is more likely a projecting of some traps themselves--specifically, the insecure ones. >it's just you

TNWO (Trans New World Order) worship GOCK (Girlcock). gg / CxEYxaHuKp

>>5224 That's not true.

>>5130 >picrel is what I think a woman should be. So a useless cumdump? Good to know you truly are nothing but a fetishist.

>>5427 That's what you're seeing, not what I'm showing. What's wrong with being simple and sexy? How is expressing femininity by focusing on physical fitness and beauty a bad thing? How is that any less a valid depiction of modern feminity than a powerfemme CEO of a non-profit? That's why I find the harem anime to ironically be the most feminist genre - it shows a genuine diversity of women. There are heaps of different ways to be a woman. Hollywood over the last 10 years or so has just pumped out girlboss after girlboss, every age weight and skin colour, and created an environment where if you're not the smartest, strongest, most courageous little miss perfect in existence then you're somehow doing it wrong. What the harem anime shows is that it's okay if you're dumb, or smart, or tall, or short, or happy, or mean, or perverted, or chaste. Everyone is valid, everyone deserves love and affection. And what I love about bimbo culture is how inclusive it is. Gender diverse = fine. Neurodiverse = all good. High achievers, homemakers, lesbians, whatever. It's about taking control of your life and becoming the person you choose to be. So you can fuck off with your judgemental bullshit.