>>28392 First for Ashley!

Went ahead and posted this here, but should this move to /vg/ now that there is one?

This shit broke my heart

>>28394 why would we? things are fine here

>I'm andrew >instead of running to the shower I do pic related >every time ashley bitches at me for choosing julia I can just say "I gave you a chance and you blew it" >since ashley has low self esteem she'll mostly blame herself instead of me and julia problem solved

>>28395 Not even death could do them apart

>>28394 The thread about the game was already here before 4chan died and generals are allowed in here so we might as well stick around unless the rules change down the line. new /vg/ is already under captcha for every post so the only benefit for moving would be helping lost 4channers find the place.

Choose your destiny

>>28395 How to get this ending?

>>28398 ah he looks so happy :)

>>28401 In episode 2, choose to not trust Andrew alone with his parents, shoot Andrew in the dream sequence, and choose to be called "Andrew" in the car.

>>28400 BTW for me its Julia >>28402 Fuck that faggot, poor Ashley is terrorized

>>28395 The Splat ending is most depressing thing in the game for me so far. The way that Ashley doesn't want to go through with it but does so anyway because she doesn't want to live without Andrew. The way she asks for kiss and some kind words in their last moments but is denied even that because Andrew has lost all affection for her. The way her very last thought is fear of dying.

>>28400 for me, it's Renee

I'm starting to believe a majority of the fan base and posters in these threads are girls.

>>28401 >>28403 You also need to not pick up the ring in the forest. Or there might be an option to get rid of it later if you pick it up, but I'm not certain about that.

>>28407 It's a game by a woman for other women. It just happens there are some men here too because the woman author is just that much of a genius.

>>28408 >there might be an option to get rid of it later if you pick it up, but I'm not certain about that. There is

>>28407 im a dude, i just happen to enjoy things that have majority female audiences hell, my favorite TV show is/was Supernatural

>>28407 I'm a big guy, it just happens that for someone reason women are the best when in it comes to writing incestkino

>>28394 It should be fine here for now.

>>28407 There is nothing more manly than liking romance for women.

>>28414 This

>>28412 >I'm a big guy For me?

>>28409 >>28411 >>28412 >>28414 Very interesting answers, at least you guys (gals) are keeping it civilized here, real mature. Except for the Julia poster, I don't care about Julia, there I said it.

>>28412 Women as far as I'm concerned are better at writing degenerate fantasies because dudes are in general more straightforward with their sexual desires.

>>28416 FAT chance!

>>28414 The sign of a true lover.

>>28412 It's because the only thing setting it apart from two people who look similar is the personalities involved and the dynamic of their relationship. Women love stuff like that and tend to have more experience reading that type of fiction.

>>28392 Is chapter 3 done yet? I'd rather not get into it yet otherwise.

>>28406 Tired of that fanname

>>28419 >or perhaps she's wondering why stab a bitch, whose soul has already left her body

>>28422 Not yet, chapter 3 is either 50% done or 25% done depending on how you look at it but it is certainly NOT 100% done

>>28407 Any femanons posting in this thread? I'm single ladies!

>>28406 The closest thing she has to sex appeal is to laugh at her reactions to Andrew and Ashley doing stuff.

no way

>>28414 >>28415 Based On average, women make the best romance manga, and the men make shitty ones like Rent a Girlfriend or all the clones where the MC is a wimpy ugly loser whom the hot girl falls in love with him just because he's nice That being said, the peak of male writing is higher than the peak of female writing

>>28426 Reminds me of when NekoTanning came to /calg/

>>28428 >Niggers No way indeed, get this shit out of here

>>28429 >On average, women make the best romance manga I have to agree

>>28417 Well fuck you >>28423 It's not a fan name, retard-kun >>28409 >for other women I bet Nemlei only said that to make faggots stop whining about the game considering she lurked/lurks and shilled the game way back in the start

>>28428 What the fuck is so weird about laying under covers with your sister? We would watch tv or something like that all the time up to our early 20s

>>28397 >Implying Andrew wouldn't be hard as fuck, so hard that he's ignore all of Ashley's shortcomings and let his inner animal loose on her.

What would it take to wake Ashley's secret maternal instinct? Baby Andy?

>>28397 You are an asshole!

>>28437 Just a lil' Andy. It'll probably wake up her maternal feelings like how Andy took care of Leyley.

Ashley has a specific look that makes Andrew go crazy. He first saw it when they were teens and never got over it. She does it again later on but I forgot which scene it happens. I wo der if Burial will fix her selfesteem and have her do those danger sex eyes more often.

>>28439 Was looking for that second pic

>>28441 Honestly, I am kinda surprised that there isn't that much /ss/ with Ashley and Andy. Considering that these two would go WAY better than Andrew and Leyley. For one I legitimately think that Ashley would take care of Andy to some extent and hang around with him. Probably try to get intimate as well.

>>28397 That would destroy Ashley

>>28442 I agree Andy x Ashley is underrated

>>28442 I don't know about that. Ashley wants Andrew in part due to her desire to be nurtured, but if the roles were reversed and she was forced to be the one nurturing, it could turn more toxic than Andrew x Leyley

>>28440 One of these?

>>28446 God damn that Ashley is so hot

So guys, do you think it would be possible to befriend andrew/ashley without getting killed by either of them? I mean ashley only became what she is because no one loved her besides andrew, right?

>>28446 >>28447 Teenshley is so sexy and cute. She would had been popular in highschool if she didn't dress like Chris Chan

>>28448 >Andrew No >Ashley Possibly

>>28446 The right one definitely. She does it again but I can't for the life of me remember when it happens in chapter 3.

>>28448 Andrew is such a cunt he doesnt even remember the name of his best friend Maybe Ashley if you played your cards right

>>28448 Yes if the same gender as either of them. Unfortunately all opportunities were squandered.

>>28448 Ashley is possible to befriend, if you're not an asshole and two-faced with her. Andrew wouldn't even register you exist, so probably not

>>28448 Andrew? I don't think so. Since childhood, he was indifferent to everyone around him, even if they were trying to be his friend earnestly. I think "Friend B" is called like that because his name didn't even seem important enough to remember. Ashley i don't know, she tried to date and couldn't, maybe because she started to having feelings for Andrew since then, but if you were a girl... We need to see her side from those HS days

>>28447 Her best design

Rooting for the four kids two cars a dog and a backyard ending

>>28448 Why yes anon I am autistic enough to have had this very thought already. And yeah my conclusion basically is that revealing any kind of knowledge about their illegal activities will put you right on their death list. And there's good chance they might see me as a free trinket charge even if I played dumb. The topic makes you realise just how dangerous the pair have become.

>>28446 The princess shirt is cute as fuck. >>28449 The Sonichu medallion is a nice touch, I assume it's intentionally a reference to CWC. It's too perfect not to be intentional. >>28457 I'd prefer a The Hills Have Eyes type ending with and inbred, cannibalistic Graves clan stalking and killing travelers.

>>28458 Ah, yeah, in their past it would be a hard task, but in the present time of the story this would be beyond impossible

>>28458 Was that autistic to ask? I mean i always ask myself that question if i like the characters in some fictional piece. Its better than self inserting as an actual character.

Julia wouldn't sacrifice my soul to get useless future visions from a demon

>>28446 >/our/ queen. now in Mii form

>>28462 She would give you terrible blowjobs instead

>>28460 I dont think it would be impossible if it started as a transactional relationship at first. Getting into that kinda situation first does sound pretty unlikely though.

>>28464 No one is born knowing

>>28454 Ashley would just call you an annoying faggot and tell you to kill yourself, get real.

>>28461 The board you're posting on is autism incarnate, so don't worry about asking autistic questions.

>>28467 Remember she considers ??? a friend. It doesn't take much. If she thought you wanted in her pants she wouldn't be having it though.

>>28468 Nemlei shouldve released out of context stills of this scene before Decay released to fuck with people

>>28468 But how would you get andrews blessing?

>>28472 You don't. Remember Andrew went running for Ashley after imagining that lol

>>28472 I feel like there was a timeframe in which Andrew could have been persuaded relatively easily. He'd just regret it later.

>>28471 That would've been hilarious.

>>28446 >>28447 What unholy copium did Andrew sniff to not bang Teenshley Jesus fuck, what a snack

>>28472 Gaslight him with the normal life what are you a sisterfucker stuff

>>28472 Over his dead body.

>>28425 Thanks. I'll wait then. >>28429 I think women are just really in tune with what guys like. They'll don't "get" us like we'll never "get" them, but they know what seduces us and any girl with a bit of self awareness can use that in their work.

>>28468 Ashley, the pure girl amongst a sea of hussies >>28472 It might have been possible during the gap when they weren't talking. You'd have to be a really nice guy though. >>28474 And I agree Andrew would regret it.

>>28402 I haven't finished watching the game yet, but I've read that their dual suicide is the only time he confirms being genuinely happy since before they murdered Nina.

>>28432 That was written by a woman? I liked it. It made me want to kill myself. >>28429 Who wrote that one? I've been reading it, too.

>>28481 I saw that ending recently and don't recall this. I think his mindset there is more "given up on everything" than genuinely happy.

>>28429 I think female authors tend to be more free and unrestrained. A lot of male authors I've read feel like they're working in an existing framework and rules, and afraid to deviate too much. But it might just be my own bias. I keep imagining degenerate stuff to write and then not write it because I think it'd be too shameful to write because something that'd be cool/hot if written by a woman would just be gross if written by a man.

>>28482 >Who wrote that one? Also a woman, in fact she got so horny drawing that manga that she got pregnant and had to take a hiatus

>>28476 The fact that Andrew didn't already bang Ashley long before the events of the game is the single most unrealistic thing about the story, honestly. A guy going through puberty with a flirty gremlin attached to his hip like that isn't going to be able to hold back without some superhuman self control, incest or not. >>28481 You're better off playing it and then just watching normalfags play it later, so you can laugh at how uncomfortable it makes them, or alternatively, laugh at how uncomfortable pretending to act like it makes them uncomfortable it makes them. >>28482 >That was written by a woman? I liked it. It made me want to kill myself. Checks out.

>>28485 Does anyone have Tardrew(the crosseyed Andrew from the "Olive Branches" vision? I was looking for it earlier.

>>28398 >haHAhaHahAhaHAha!!

>>28485 >in fact she got so horny drawing that manga that she got pregnant and had to take a hiatus you are fucking kidding me

>>28489 >"Arakure Ojousama Wa MonMon Shiteiru" by Yuichi Kinoshita will resume on Young Magazine Website May, 2. The series was on hiatus since January, 2021 after mangaka announced her pregnancy

>>28489 I am not in fact, it truly happened

>>28490 that just sounds like she happened to get pregnant while the manga was ongoing the way you phrased it made it sounds like she got so heated writing the thing she just stripped naked and ran out into the street like a feral cat in heat

>>28487 Yes. Have Ashley and Renee too because why not?

>>28489 I am not, it truly happened >>28492 >the way you phrased it made it sounds like she got so heated writing the thing she just stripped naked and ran out into the street like a feral cat in heat Its unironically what happened

>>28493 Thanks a million! Have a smugley.

>>28495 that's an interesting filename you got there

>>28496 About time someone took noticed. Admittedly she deserves it

>>28492 >>28494 Well, not to the street but drawing the manga got her horny and she got creampied by the hubby

>>28496 >>28497

Does this game hit a bit close to home for anyone? As exaggerated as they are, Andrew's interaction with his parents reminded me of my experience as the older brother in a double income household. Made me pretty happy that Renee died in such a pathetic and horrid manner. No I do not want to fuck my brother. That would be gay. And being gay is for fags. Also he ain't my type anyhow.

>>28499 Not bad, but A/ss/hley was better

>>28501 Agreed, in fact... I think I may be getting some inspiration for some good ol' fanfiction! Oh... It's been so long since I've written something!

>>28500 >Does this game hit a bit close to home for anyone? Yes, but in the romance part. It made me go insane for awhile. Never in my life i have been this shaken up by any game... or any work of fiction for that matter.

Reminder btw

>>28504 Cousin fucking is not even incest. That's the whole reason why God made cousins in the first place, so you wouldn't fuck your sibling

>>28496 Brats always need correction. >>28500 Not really. My family life growing up was pretty good, despite plenty of hardships.

>>28505 It can be, depending on the cousin, not all cousins are equal

>>28504 >After the 2023 Israel–Hamas war began, Strong stated that Hamas had "brainwashed the western world" to support terrorism.[26] She also stated that people can "help Palestine without supporting terrorism"[27] and expressed support for Israel.[28] >Strong's posts and likes on others' posts relating to the war on Twitter garnered controversy, particularly her opinions on the government of Israel's bombing of the Gaza Strip, in which she praised the bombings, stating, "This is only the beginning," and calling it "smart".[29] The comments led independent animation studio Bandit Mill Animation to remove her from the production of their upcoming series Boxtown and recast a role for a character she would have voiced. They explained on their official Twitter page that "this decision was due to a trend among Tara's recent online activity, including posts that promote controversial messages regarding the peoples of Palestine currently being affected by the ongoing Israel-Palestine crisis."[30] >After her removal, Strong claimed that she was "fired for being Jewish". This was denied by a co-writer of Boxtown's pilot, Spencer Rothbell, who pointed out that several Boxtown cast and crew members are Jewish, including himself and voice actor Alex Hirsch, the latter whom is voicing a lead character in the series.

>>28503 >Second pic Idiot sandwich

>>28503 >Yes, but in the romance part explain sisterfucker

>>28500 In a sense. Ashley's neglect as just a nuisance to ignore and Andrew's sheer indifference to the world resonate a bit too much for my comfort.

>>28508 Isreal funds Hamas. The entire shitshow is retarded. If sage were visible here my sage would be visible.

>>28509 Ashley's scrunched up face...

>>28513 If only I could be the one to scrunch that face

>>28499 Leyley is built for rape

>>28499 Reminds me a bit of that slovakian cheese pizza.

>>28515 >It’s all a dream

>>28517 Please behave, we are in a foreign board.

>>28517 Child pizza and child pizza discussion is forbidden on 8chan due to the Global Rules. Please refrain from discussing such things here. Return the discussion to brothers and sisters fucking, please and thank you. Also, sage.

>>28439 is this from a woman

>>28429 They also are good at disguising romance stories as battle stories.

>ugh, you are fucking your sister? That's gross How do you reply without sounding mad?

>>28526 >I fucked your mom too Honestly I don't know a good rebuttal for that. It's a very specific kind of insult...

>>28526 Just call him crazy

>>28528 >haha, are you nuts? There's nowway I'd have unprotected sex with my sister. Even if that happened, I was drunk af so it's not like it counts or anything...

>>28526 Yes, and?

>>28526 How did my cum taste, faggot?

>>28526 Own up to it and nuzzle/hold my sister's hand. If true love's a sin than we're going to Hell in a handbasket.

>>28531 I don't think that's a comeback you may want to use in this situation anon...

>>28526 I wish. She's such a bitch I can't stand being around her

Reminder that if the art style was different and the characterisation reversed > older deadpan sister taking care of a POS younger brother > a neglectful dad and his pushover wife this game would've never gone viral.

>>28535 How do you know? Make it and we'll compare the virality.

>>28535 >If the game wasn't this game, it wouldn't be popular Yeah? That's like kinda the point?

>>28535 >Local man discovers difference between male and female. More at 11

>>28499 I love it when my porn gets psychological.

thanks kink mom

Yeah, there's love if you want it Don't sound like no sonnet

So what are Finnish families like? Are they close to or as dysfunctional as the one depicted in coffin?

>>28526 >That's gross >How do you reply without sounding mad? "You're creeped out by heterosexual lovemaking? What are you, gay?"

>>28540 >>28542 What do you call something that's hot but also deeply disturbing?

>>28446 past her prime past her expiration date

Andrew and Ashley die and end up in Hazbin Hell. What are they're new bodies ans how happy is Ashley now that she gets to spens an eternity with Andrew.

>>28547 lmao there is no fucking way Ashley's singing one of those cringey songs.

>>28542 Men don't have hair like that.

>>28547 Fuck that, Ashley and Andrew would kill themselves again before being in Gaybin motel

>>28551 ch3 has excessive sweating like helluva boss. it looks like an edgy 13 y.o. wrote it

>>28552 Nah it fits the misery

>>28405 >The way that Ashley doesn't want to go through with it but does so anyway because she doesn't want to live without Andrew. Which is ironic, seeing that the majority of Andy's life is exactly that, only from his side. Gives you a glimpse of just how mentally shattered Ashley is.

>>28552 It's even almost like a woman wrote it

>>28405 andrew wouldn't lose affection if she didn't suck at sex and kissing

>>28556 >Renee is meme'd into being attracted to Andrew. >She's absolutely disgusted by incest. >Ashley is meme'd as some femme fatale seductress. >She has the understanding of sex equal to a porn-addicted kid, and is almost asexual herself due to arrested development.

>>28557 Ashley being a Turbo virgin depite her personality is adorable

>>28556 cute butt

>>28557 I got weirded out by this scene because every other time andrew makes out with her she's happy and here she's pessimistic. makes me think cliffhanger won't have 1 positive end

>>28560 She's dumb and insecure

>>28429 never read romance manga in my life but now i wanna, what's the name of this one? anyway i am retarded so it took me so long to find you guys

>>28481 That is wrong. You are probably thinking about when Andrew was asked about the last time he had fun and he said it was when they were joking about jumping out of the balcony way earlier in the game.

Shroomley!

>>28560 The only way a happy ending will be possible is if Andrew both grows a backbone and somehow aligns his goals with her instead of trying to fit into society.

>>28560 >every other time andrew makes out with her she's happy That's because she either feels in control and/or understands what they're both getting out of it. Once again - she has massive arrested development. She doesn't understand lovemaking or intimacy. Sex is transactional and "pornified" for lack of a better term.

>>28565 That's "Shots and Such," though. Plus, Ashley doesn't have "goals." She's a low impulse control monster who acts on a whim. You can see what she wants in the "_ in the box" ending.

>>28567 Did you just speedread? That's not shots and such at all, the game literally spells it out for you.

>>28569 No, I didn't. And yes, it's exactly that. Do you have trouble with reading comprehension?

>>28570 Read the last like 10 lines of the ending again and don't come back here until you do fucking retard.

>>28571 Sure, as soon as you stop being an illiterate cretin.

its the guy from yesterday again

>Catch up with my real life sister for the first time in awhile >"Still have that old laptop?" >"Yeah anon, been mostly use it to play indie games. Ever heard of the Coffin of Andy and Leyley?"

>>28574 OH BOY

>>28574 >>28575 >things that never happened

>>28576 I want to believe.

>>28560 Ashley has dogshit selfesteem. I don't think she can fix it in Decay but Burial might have a chance

>>28578 her self esteem is on point. she's a monster wearing human skin

>>28578 I think she can. She must unless you think that each sibling will resolve their issue in one path while remaining broken in the other. With one of the two endings already done we can assume episode 4 will follow a single path to the end with a few dead branches on the way, it should be long as hell and have more than enough time to find a solution.

>>28579 RUDE!

>>28580 Well I mean that's the thing. I don't think they will resolve their issues in Decay. Neither Andrew or her, shit's just too dysfunctional at that point. At least in Burial she didn't trigger Andrew during a pivotal moment so he didn't break.

>>28557 Kinda based

>>28582 Ashley is barely a person. She has no goals, no hobbies, no dreams or aspirations. You'd have to basically reset her and raise her from scratch.

>>28562 Arakure Ojousama Wa Monmon Shiteiru Also since you never read one before, i really recommend Sensei wa Koi wo Oshierarenai. It's one of the best i've read. Pic related

>>28584 >cont. Plus the Entity has a firm hold on her, and she likes what it has offered. There is not a smidgen of a hint she would want to let go of her deal with him.

>>28585 And yes, thats also made by a woman

>>28579 >her self esteem is on point exactly. her only value is being a fuck hole. she's so crazy andy was asking himself why would anyone date her even tho he's super horny for her. her soul is disgusting. her cooking is shit.

since the entity suggested that god&heaven exists then who goes there? i assume the sacrificed souls are stuck in the realm until they get absorbed? kind of fucked up ngl

>>28586 >Plus the Entity has a firm hold on her That's clearly a plot point of Burial though. Which is why Nemlei did all those updates to Episode 2. Her deal with the demon will come at an impasse. Decay already showed us that she keeps the trinket and the demon around because she thinks she's useless and believes Andrew sticks with her because of it. That's an untenabke situation in Decay but I think potentially solveable in Burial.

>>28582 > I don't think they will resolve their issues in Decay. Neither Andrew or her, shit's just too dysfunctional at that point. It is possible for them to end not really fixing their issues and just learning how to deal with them enough to live a semi-happy life together. Andrew is kind of easy but I'm not creative enough to imagine a scenario where that could work with Ashley's issues but Nemlei might be able to make it work.

If they ever fix their relationship and actually mature as people, itll happen in Decay. It sure as hell wont happen in Burial

>>28591 I disagree. I think the "they live as a functioning couple of serial killers" will be one of Burial's endings, and that it will be Ashley's equivalent of "Shots and Such." She'll technically get what she wanted - living in a relationship with an Andrew that loves her and what they're doing - but after some time she'll realise that he's become a completely different person, one she no longer loves, or is even outright afraid of. Basically "be careful what you wish for." >>28590 The problem with your idea is that she relishes in being a murderer.

>>28591 shots is already as happy ending as you can get for them. you can't make it better without rewriting ashley's personality

>>28586 Her trust on the entity will collapse when she understand what it did to Andrew. The only struggle will be making her accept that it's not just a plot to make her get rid of the trinket.

>>28592 You are correct

>>28593 >problem with your idea is that she relishes in being a murderer What does have to do with the demon or Ashley thinking she's a sack of shit?

>>28597 He is offering her a feeling of power and control; an actual role in her existence; and also an outlet for all her sick tendencies and inclinations. The deal is simply too good, and from her perspective has literally no drawbacks. >>28595 "_ in the box" shows she's more than willing to warp Andrew, as long as it fits her. Hell, basically their entire relationship amounts to that. She has no conscience.

New here. I think the story is great, but like why do we enjoy a story about such an abusive toxic incest relationship between a random guy and his extremelly batshit insane lover? Is this what good storytelling is about? Is this an horror game?

>>28599 >why do we enjoy a story about such an abusive toxic incest relationship between a random guy and his extremelly batshit insane lover? Because its entertaining >Is this an horror game? Yes

cuz Ashley is hot and incest is kino

>>28592 Only in Decay Andrew is too far gone, and actively despises both his life and his sister. He's at his lowest point, essentially, and sees Ashley more as a necessary evil than a sister/lover.

They don't deserve to be happy but I want them to be anyway

>>28599 It's gothic romance. It's edgy as fuck and designed to turn a few heads, but it also has a lot to say about these two and the world around them. It's extremely earnest in it's edginess, so it doesn't come off as cringe. Gothic romance is not for everyone, but if you're willing to put up with some of the harder to stomach aspects, it's something worth loving.

since she thinks she's a peace of shit was this a joke or was she lying?

>>28592 >>28596 Pretty sure it'll happen in both routes, just different approaches

>>28598 All she cares about is Andrew staying with her, the entity intentionally throwing him in the middle of nowhere is the opposite of that.

>>28600 but I think is entertaining because we can see ourselves in that situation. There was always a batshit insane girl that gives us the ick in our lives I think. We see our shadows in our own ego reflected in the story and that must be why it feels so relatable.

>>28598 >an actual role in her existence Relative to how Andrew perceives her. That's the entire point. She thinks she's useless and is insecure about it. And more importantly, this happens in Decay. The route where we specifically go out of our way to run a wedge between their relationship so of course Ashley, now further distrustful of Andrew, will cling to the trinket more. Meanwhile, Burial outright ends with them doing a vision together sometjing she vehemently rejected to do with Andrew in Decay.

>>28608 Maybe you are into something But i mainly enjoy seeing the trainwreck unfold. Maybe that's also why women enjoy gossip

>>28592 >If they ever fix their relationship and actually mature as people I think there's 0 chance for them to develop a normal sibling relationship and become wagies with semi normal lives. And with how much Nemlei stresses that TCOAAL society™ is an awful place full of assholes I don't think going that direction would mean a "good" ending for her.

>>28609 do you think picrel has a chance of happening and her letting go of her insecurities and whatnot it'd be kinda cute tho

>>28610 same came for bratty brocon goth imouto stayed for watching an absolute trashfire of a relationship blow up

>>28610 I think now storytelling works when is a mirror of real life, just like drawing functions better when the artist study real life. You can see we enjoy a trainwreck story because it doesnt happen to us or our family and friends. It's like watching how the lolcowverse unfolds and we see how the lolcows destroy their own lives and reputations because of their own stupid mistakes. And that's 100% real life.

>>28614 Kill yourself spic

Its going to be depressing once the entire story is finally finished. Ive grown too attached to these characters

>>28599 Toxic relationships have much more potential than normal ones in fiction. There is more room for catharsis and overall kino scenarios.

>>28617 I wouldn't really call their relationship toxic, outside of the bad endings. Even S&S was ok imo But yes, fantasy is more interesting than realism

I wonder if Entities can prey on one another? >inb4 Andrew's demon shows up and just eats Ashley's

>>28617 It depends really, I can't stand when a toxic relationship is romanticized and embellished to appear as 'not-toxic'. Here, the story acknowledges that it is bad and a problem, which makes it good in my book

>>28618 You don't consider their relationship toxic? The siblings who essentially made a suicide pact as kids when they murdered their friend? With the sister who stalks and sends constant death threats to her brothers girlfriend? And the brother who wants to fuck his sister and peeps on her while she's changing? The siblings who are actively detrimental to eachother in almost every single way yet cant bare to separate anyway? Yeah they're pretty wholesome actually

>>28616 well at the current pace we have a few more years at least...

>>28621 I think their relationship is the definition of passion, same as their parents.

>>28612 100% no, as she/he have already repeatedly admitted.

>>28621 >Yeah they're pretty wholesome actually Indeed

>>28625 for me, it's biology nerd ashley

>>28621 They're toxic, but not AS toxic to each other?, I don't know how to explain it

There had better be at least one route where Ashley learns what romance and sex actually are

>>28584 >She has no goals, no hobbies, no dreams or aspirations uhhh but that's not true

Bonnie and Clyde route where it ends with Julia watching the news with her new bf about the siblings dying in a last stand against the police

>>28628 I trust not all the sex scenes will be as lame and depressing as S&S' was.

>>28629 Didn't she also admit to never having read a single book?

>>28632 I don't think that's too rare. I mean it's not normal, but there are some people that just don't give a fuck about fiction.

>>28631 On that vision she had bruises and bite marks similar to S&S so i wonder if she was just pretending enjoying it just to make Andrew happy, and this request to be more gentle wasnt as romantic as previously thought

>>28632 I've never read a fiction book but I have a bookcase full of stuff about sales and healthcare

>peeps on her while she's changing? we all did that let's be real

>>28634 Andrew is a kinky boy, he likes his sex ROUGH

>>28634 I honestly think there will be no "they're in a happy relationship" ending. Either it'll be abusive, like S&S; or Andrew will become so warped even Ashley will realise he's no longer the person she loved; or one of them will sacrifice themselves to save the other.

>>28636 I remember one time my sister passed out plastered in the bathroom and when I opened it I avoided looking at her vagina, I don't think this is normal

>>28638 nemlei will deliver trust the plan

>>28639 It's not. Your brain/soul are wired to be completely disinterested in your sister as a woman, otherwise unironically "sister/brother fucking" would be the default way you lose your virginity.

>>28640 Oh, I think she told the truth in that there will be a straight-up "good ending," but I don't think they'll be a couple in it.

>>28407 Well Nemlei's she said her original target audience was other women who enjoy those true crime channels.

>>28641 >Your brain/soul are wired to be completely disinterested in your sister as a woman You kniw that's not a thing, right?

>>28638 >>28640 It depends on whether or not Nemlei considers this to be more of a romance story or a horror story. And frankly I dont understand how people consider this to be a horror story, the way its all portrayed is so lighthearted and comical that its impossible to take seriously that way.

>>28643 so, all women >>28644 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect

>>28642 You're a dumbass if you think Nemlei doesn't plan on going all in

>>28646 >Pseudoscience

>>28642 >Romance game good ending won't have romance on it. Some people I swear.

>>28646 >linking wikipedia as if it's not filled with lies sold as truth everywhere

>>28642 Decay has left me with the impression that Nemlei is pretty invested in the Andy and Leyley as a couple angle of the story >>28645 Horror flavored, in the way the that sparkling water is "flavored"

>>28645 It's a dark comedy, and definitely a romance at the core, the only "horror" is that it talks abouy certain topics and that's it

>>28644 >>28648 he's right. when I accidentally saw my mom completely naked at 15 I felt completely neutral even though I'm a shameless degenerate

>>28642 If in S&S/Splat route, where everything goes wrong for their relationship, they still fuck and end up together, I think it's safe to assume that they'll do so in most other routes.

>>28643 >>28646 With all the waifu archetypes in this game, i seriously doubt this game was only directioned to women. Also, she lurks

>>28645 Dark comedy can also be horror

>>28655 She also rewrites her story as a reaction to people's opinions/comments. The reason she went so hard on Renee in Episode 3 is precisely because she hated people simping for her/defending her, to the point she over-corrected, in my opinion.

>>28645 It's Sweeney Todd.

>>28657 As i stated before, i believe she hated people shipping Renee with Andrew way more than hating the actual character Thus why she did the whole sweet time capsule segment

>>28655 Q&A comment notwithstanding, I kinda doubt she was thinking demographics too much when she came up with the initial concept. Just had a good idea and ran with it. Turns out that it drew big numbers which is the important part for us >>28657 we must forgive the woman her woman moments

>>28655 >waifu Ashley is as far from being a waifu as a pretty fictional girl can get. And that's one of the things that make her such a good character to me. Julia and Renee do seem to appeal to waifufags though Nemlei sure doesn't seem to have intended that for our beloved milf.

How would you add a combat system to this game and some jrpg town level mechanic? Ot this will scare away fans of this genre? I aks because I'm not a VN player, so I think a game like this need some combat, or at least something like a 2D combat like zelda to grind up coins or unlock keys or some shit.

>>28661 Ashley is a brocon yandere anon >Nemlei sure doesn't seem to have intended that for our beloved milf. Pic related appeals to me though

>>28662 Nah, if anything, I'd wish the game had more puzzles and side content.

>>28661 >Julia and Renee do seem to appeal to waifufags I don't see the appeal to be honest

>>28662 >need some combat, or at least something like a 2D combat like zelda to grind up coins just

>>28665 >Renee See >>28663 >Julia See Orihime

>>28639 >>28641 >>28644 i don't know man i think boys going through puberty peeking on their sisters could be somewhat a common occurrence

>>28657 Alright, I'm sure you've all already had this discussion, but I'm curious about what the argument is on why showing Renee, a character who abandoned her starving children in ep 1, to also be a bad person in more ways is a change or inconsistent.

>>28667 Seems like shit to me

>>28665 Same, Julia is a boring pitiable cardboard cutout, Renee is genuinely a garbage person, rotten to the core and apparently incapable of loving anyone or anything but Douglas.

>>28668 I agree, althought i was more attracted to my step-sister >>28670 Good taste isnt for everyone

>>28669 It's not but you have some retards crying because she's now a 'muh cartonish evil', despite being the case since day 1

>>28668 peeking out of curiosity, sure wanting to fug, thats where we would expect the disgust to kick in >>28669 renee fags are not known for their intellectual capacity

>>28671 Ashley/Andrew is genuinely a garbage person, rotten to the core and apparently incapable of loving anyone or anything but Andrew/Ashley.

>>28667 What are you talking about? Julia is not similar to Orihime in any way, shape or form.

>>28664 >>28666 well, I am a 2D fighting player, so not sure if adding combat would pull off VN players.

>>28672 Yeah, we know anon, not need to kick yourself

Not played the game but I will say that the 'Renee' character is a fun way to play around with in the AI chat logs, there is something sort of sweet and swell in seeing her threaten to cut my face off one moment and then have a begrudging bit of sweetness that is done later down the line. It's twisted, but I can fix her Anons, I know I can!

what your waifu choice says about you >ashley you're lonely and basic >renee you're a sophisticated gentleman >julia you're conservative >nina you're a pedophile >room 302 girl you're shallow >shopkeeper you're a kike lover

>>28675 Yes, and they're bad people for it. At least they didn't make more of themselves to neglect and let fester into a new generation of monsters.

>>28675 Apples don't fall far from the tree I guess. In my headcanon Andrew even inherited Renee's S&M inclinations.

>Julia hate ramping up The females are waking up

>>28683 >Julia hate Huh?

>>28683 Kek, exactly.

>>28679 play the game, don't come back until you do

>>28663 >Ashley is a brocon yandere anon I know, but she just has too many woman moments to be a proper waifu.

ashey = virgin julia = used up whore simple as

>>28687 >but she just has too many woman moments Because she's also a self insert, but as you can probably notice she's still waifu'd by many because in the end of it she's just a brocon yandere

>>28688 ashley has mentality of used up whore

>>28690 doesn't matter she's still pure and hasn't even KISSED yet

>>28662 Because I'm kinda retarded, I’ve been imagining how a combat system could work here, maybe as a fan game or a combat focused spin off lol. Anyway, I think borrowing Joel’s gimmick from Lisa: The Pointless could work really well. He’s technically a gunman with a unique bolt-action pistol, but the twist is that it uses a special type of bullet and he only has one left. So even though he’s labeled as a gunman, he’s actually more of a support character. In battle, he can reload his gun to charge mana/skill points, aim at enemies to freeze them with fear, or dramatically point at someone to single them out implying he’s *definitely* about to shoot. Ashley’s liking of horror movies could be the key to unlocking her actual offensive moves, like Joel with the Book of Tactics, Ashley could find posters of the movies she watched in the past and get inspired

>>28690 She's just a tryhard sperg, which is cute.

>>28690 >>28691 >>28693 Gap Moe

>>28667 Since we're posting anime on /calg/, we need an edit of the Grandpa's portrait, but he's an Akatsuki, similar to pic related(Rinnegan optional).

>>28676 Both are sweet girls with huge tits=

>>28662 as someone who has played close to 200 h-games done in rpgmaker there's nothing worse than shitty combat system slapped together for no reason other than "well it comes with the engine, might as well use it" there's nothing wrong with VN format.

>>28695 Not anymore, you ruined it, shame on you

>>28697 Exactly, if it doesn't help the game, don't do it

>>28698 What did I do? All I did was make a suggestion.

>>28700 Your suggestion SUCKS!

>>28696 Is that how shallow juliafags are? I can't even call this surface level as at her most basic Orihime is energetic, friendly, weird and gutsy.

>>28692 >>28697 Honestly, from what I think combat would be better to a colliseum FFVI type of arcade mode separated from the story. A separated touhou like mode is the best approach to me.

>>28702 >Is that how shallow juliafags are? You just now realized that?

>>28702 That was obviously a joke, do you really need Juliachads to explain why they like Julia once again? >>28704 I hope you're aware there are IDs in this site

being glad someone died because he didn't stop his sister from sending death threats is an overreaction

>>28705 >I hope you're aware there are IDs in this site Yes, so?

>>28657 >>28669 Correct, because it went utterly over the top in a way that didn't fit the established character. >>28673 >despite being the case If you can't see a measurable difference between Chapter 1/2 Renee and Chapter 3 Renee, should you really be critiquing anything?

Ashleyfags hating on Renee when Renee is just Ashley without the incest and satanic cannibalism part will always be curious >>28706 She acknowledges it's a sick, sick part of her Although she's not wrong

>>28706 why can't characters just be nice? It bothers me that good storytelling is about having characters that are the most complete pieces of shit to each other. Or maybe that's another women moment I wasn't aware because I don't think like a vagina.

>>28710 But she is nice, probably the only legitimately nice character in the whole story

nemlei will have a melty in the near future i can feel it

>>28710 I mean, Andy boy kinda had that one coming

>>28710 >good storytelling is about having characters that are the most complete pieces of shit Why would you say this? It isn't. Good storytelling is about having believable characters AND believable character progression.

>>28710 >why can't characters just be nice Because that'd be boring

>>28706 It does feel a little out of proportion, BUT i mean come on Andrew was an asshole regardless

>>28716 >took her virginity >led her on despite not loving her just to have a fuckdoll which he could pretend it was his sister >just because she was coping about his feelings The letter was based and deserved, and even then she was nice enough to make it without the intention to actually deliver it

>>28711 >legitimately nice I'd have some respect if she was honest about the fact she'd be glad if he died but instead she gaslights him because she'd two faced

>>28718 She's not wishing death upon him, she said she would be glad if he was dead. She even says she hopes he's in heaven lmao

>>28717 It's surprising that Andrew only fucked one girl all this time. >>28718 Nemlei's gonna leak all of the juicy details in the next chapter or burial

>>28718 Also when she clearly wishes Ashley was hurt >>28717 The best/worst part is Andrew giving 0 fucks and just throwing the letter like simple rubbish, that was heavy

>>28706 She'd had a few months, and Jane whispering in her ear, to realize that her boyfriend running off to his sister constantly was probably indicative of there being something deeply wrong in their relationship. Knowing that is was definitely Ashley who'd been harassing her even as Andrew denied it would only reinforce that truth the more time she spent away from him. I wonder if she ever stopped and thought about why Andrew wanted her to tie her hair up? >>28721 > Andrew giving 0 fucks and just throwing the letter like simple rubbish, that was heavy If anything it was probably a weight off his shoulders in an awful way, any lingering guilt or pity he'd felt for her got to be thrown into the bin along with her Dear John letter, completely washing himself of the whole relationship and clearing the way mentally for him and Ashley.

>game sets multiple flag implying that Julia is not a saint >people are going to cry about retcons and character assassination once Ashley's flashback hit anyway

>>28721 >The best/worst part is Andrew giving 0 fucks and just throwing the letter like simple rubbish One of my favorite moments of the game, there is so much characterization in that simple act.

>>28721 >Also when she clearly wishes Ashley was hurt Because Ashley never wished Julia was hurt You guys are starting to sound like actual women lmao >>28724 >Andrew is a cunt Not news, and just vindicates the letter even more

>>28723 >>game sets multiple flag implying that Julia is not a saint What the hell are you talking about

>>28723 Oh yes, you know it

>>28707 Everyone can see you're the ashleyschizo

>>28725 >Because Ashley never wished Julia was hurt Ashley would kill her herself, I never implied otherwise

>>28729 You're implying Julia wishing her abusers were dead is a bad thing

>>28663 Douglas was the luckiest man alive until his kdis were born.

>>28728 >ashleyschizo Who? All Ashleyfags are proud schizos one way or another

>>28543 What does Finland or Estonia have to do with anything?

>>28733 Nemlei is Finnish

Julia is truly the innocent/good character alive in the plot so far and changing her character to be some kind of scheming devil to whitewash the siblings even further not only would be character assassination but also awful writing I am sure Nemlei is better than this retardation

>>28735 >alive in the plot Not for long

>>28735 I'm sure it'll be confirmed in burial that julia started being friends with ashley just to have a better chance at getting with andrew

People need to stop saying Nemlei hates Renee, she doesn't.

>>28737 You don't need burial for that, we got confirmation if you speak to her and Nina during the first episode 3 flashback. >>28738 Only people who think that are Reneefags mad at their headcanon being ruined.

>>28736 If there's a ending where Julia dies, i can assure you it wont end well for A&A >>28738 Thats what i've been saying >>28659

>>28731 >follow through on murder plot, no more grandpa >use money to move somewhere nice >wait 5+ years before first kid (Renee age 20) >put a few more years between kids 1 & 2 so they're not so close Would it have been enough to stack the odds in their favor? At the very least they'd have had more of a chance at normality. Without being overworked and stressed Renee might have been a less neglectful mother, with their situation being more secure Douglas might not have been so checked out of life and actually participated in raising his children more.

>>28584 >She has no goals, no hobbies, no dreams or aspirations She has no style, she has no grace >>28629 Wasn't the point of that scene that most of the ashleys there were fake and you had to find the real one based on what they were saying about themselves? I cant type "the ashleys" without immediately thinking of recess

>>28712 but everyone loves and admires her

>>28744 WORK FASTER YOU DUMB CAT!!!

>>28738 I mean that puts like/hate in a very specific context as a writer writing characters as opposed to simply judging them as people. But to be fair to Nemlei, I'm pretty sure if she actually said who she thinks is the most despicable character people would run it into the ground. Even suggesting she regrets writing them which is specifically the thing she's saying isn't the case.

I'm the only one who thinks Julia overreacts when you chose "define intimate" at the phone call? Like come on, it's evident they are intimate, just because you have a dirty mind and assume intimate = fucking is not my problem. I mean, Andrew ends up fucking her sister, but it's still wrong to just assume it.

was she an asshole too?

>>28748 The biggest

>>28748 Yeah, but she still didnt deserved to die like that

>>28748 You can directly link her being a brother stealing hussy to everything that has gone wrong in the game

>>28747 Technically you're right but we know that's not how people think. Plus it's obvious what Julia meant so it looks bad if you just don't upfront deny it. My problem was how both options sounded shit. Either make it sound like you're evading the question or outright insult the person you're hoping to help you. But I guess the idea was that was the final question and it was meant to be challenging.

>>28747 It was worth it for the lulz.

>>28743 Didn't mean to grab a screenshot from the female denton mod by the way. That ended up being a happy accident.

>>28747 >>28752 >>28754 It should be the canon answer, since that's totally what Andrew would say

>>28698 In all fairness, the letter was likely written partially by Jane. We know Jane was instructing Julia on all the things Julia should say to Andrew due to their phone call on Cliffhanger. The tampon in the bathroom was also probably Jane's idea.

>>28756 Jane wouldn't even let Julia go help Andrew.

>>28752 Can't a man just love his sister?

>>28599 Fun things are fun. >>28680 Lord Unknown is best girl.

>flirts with andrew and grabs his dick and then they make out >moment after wants andrew to turn around while she's undressing retard

>>28760 She's just teasing 24/7, this is how you do it

>>28760 She's not just some whore, you know

>>28760 It's not like he wants to see her ugly naked body

>>28763 He literally does

i got the cut-in assets from the previous thread (thanks anon), but does anyone also have the character images? i only got files from ep2

>>28765 Wouldn't have hurt for Nemlei to have drawn some side boobs here

>>28710 >Is this what good storytelling is about? >>28710 >It bothers me that good storytelling is about having characters that are the most complete pieces of shit to each other. Good storytelling is manipulating the audience into emotionally connecting with and caring about characters. I would argue that making characters toxic and evil monsters makes the job of good storytelling harder rather than easier and that Nemlei is a genius in her ability to do it. There are loads of terrible stories about evil characters being toxic pieces of shit to each other that you just don't know about because no one knows or cares about their existence because the authors lacked Nemlei's genius.

>>28767 Nemlei reduced her boob size enough to not give her any sideboob

>>28765 >>28767 The future anime adaptation will show more boob

>>28770 Cant wait for the Julia boob physics in the inevitable TCOAAL anime adaptation by Trigger

>>28770 >>28771 >this scene animated >>28447 >>28446

>>28771 Passione would be a better fit.

>>28773 Cute

>>28773 If Ashley was like this, Andrew would never have a difficult day in his entire life

:(

Why did Ashley start dressing like a hoe after high school?

>>28778 She's an American woman

>>28748 Maybe if she wasn't a brother-stealing whore and wasn't clumsy enough to have been born with asthma she wouldn't have died.

>>28773 I love this video so much it's unreal.

>>28778 to make her tits look bigger

>>28777 Dialogue like this and the whole Andrew character really makes it obvious this was made by a girl

What do you guys consider the best ending? As far as writing, lore and such?

>>28784 S&S is perfect imo

>>28784 Splat It's the most romantic ending

>>28599 >I think the story is great, but like why do we enjoy a story about such an abusive toxic incest relationship between a random guy and his extremelly batshit insane lover? Because toxic relationships are what true passionate love is about. A "wholesome relationship" is the furthest thing from love. >Is this an horror game? No. The horror game label was attached to this game by the normalfag-adjacent section of the fanbase as a cope.

>>28784 Cliffhanger, solely for Andrew's Flashback with Lord Unknown. Shots & Such however was pure DA kino.

>>28787 it was attached by nemlei actually

>>28778 Big bro doesn't give her attention so now she jerks off random men for money

what would happen if ashley became douchebag's gf forever?

>>28784 So far it's Splat. It's pure kino. Not just for the poetry of it but also the slight taste it gives us of a bold Andrew free of all worry and an honest Ashley that trusts him that I hope we get to see in a much less twisted form and under much better circumstances in Episode 4's good ending. I just wish they had been nicer to each other in that little stretch of time, but I understand why they weren't.

>>28791 Andrew would have taken care of it

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=vWaMnzhvdio&listen=1 >Don't wanna feel like >Don't wanna think like >Don't wanna live like >Like someone else >Wanna feel like >Just wanna think like >Just wanna be like >Everyone else >Couldn't walk away from something broken >Tried to find a way to make it good again >Only you can make a difference darling >Always