>>40622 Yeah I was going to give FF a go but when I saw their games are now real time I've never picked them up

I know a reviewer from jarpig specialized site who finished it. For him it's easily GOTY, we'll see. Reviews embargo ends on the 23th, 5AM EST

Please put a little more effort into your threads Wouldn't it be true Final Fantasy 13? Because around there is when the series started shitting itself and never fully recovered. <FF14 They had to take it out back and try again.

>>40625 To me FF start dying with X-2 when they reintroduced the retarded ATB system

>>40626 I remember that releasing, but I never played it and probably never will. The only things people say about X-2 are negative.

>>40624 Good I wanted a demo though >>40625 S-sumimasen >ff14 Only played the trials, I won't play it again until single player version or f2p version >FF13 I think 13-2 combat was good but 13 filtered too many people to try the sequels kek

>>40628 I don't think it filtered people as much as they dropped the game over feeling "H A L L W A Y" was bad game design. >kek How is it back in 2014 there?

>>40622 Sorry, anon, too late, XVII will be a shooter. Prease rook forward to XVIII. Still, is this game really worth it? What do people see in it that they don't in [insert other good turn-BASED RPG here] on what grounds? I'm not too sure on the style, it's a newfag developer afaik and price aside it's really hard for me to make time for a full-fledged RPG any time soon. If this is that good and could send a message to the fucks at SE then I could try to make the time but otherwise I'd just wait a bit or add it to my backlog. no offense to VIIIfags either but knowing a game is developed by them puts me on the back foot

I'll give it a try. The combat looks like boring dogshit (they really should have just had it be full turn based rather than trying to add gimmicks to it), but I'm interested in everything else. With Indiana Jones, Kunitsu-Gami: Path of the Goddess, Ninja Gaiden 2 Black, Avowed, Blue Prince and now this, I've been very happy with my Gamepass account lately. All good games I'm glad I'm not paying too much for and I'm hoping this is good as well.

>>40622 I don't know if you remember the last turn-based FF but that one wasn't specially good. There was a time when Square could afford to release a RPG with novel systems and turn it out to be good but that time won't return anymore.

>>40622 Will it have romance? I remember what made the early jarpigs special for me was the romance elements they would have

>>40633 There is some affinity system but I believe no romance.

>>40629 I consider 13-2 a good game even if not as good as old ffs though. The combat system is dynamic enough and it wasn't as linear as 13 >>40630 I-I actually love ff8. >Will it be good? It has the potential to be a good game, at least the team seems to have passion, also teams need to start somewhere. I'm planning to enjoy it, too bad it also coincides with The Hundred Line which seems really replayable with 100 endings. Though with expedition I really missed turn based games that are not pixel retro. >FF17 shooter Kek, that was their intention with FFXIII, to copy call of duty. With 17 I think they have been trying to figure out copying GOW2018 or Souls (SoP) then action tales of jrpg with FF7R. I'm really curious about FF17 Btw the Deluxe version of Expedition 33 is really cheap in CDkeys, I would jump just in case

>>40633 I wouldn't count on it, western developers are kinda afraid of showing normal romance

>>40622 FF games haven't been turn based for decades.

Got a free month of gamepass, so I guess Ill check this one out

>>40635 Stranger of Paradise is literally just Nioh, which despite being inspired by some aspects of Souls games, is its own thing.

>>40622 The hatred for turn-based combat is wild to me.

>>40622 wait that enemy is actually ingame or is it just edited?? looks so weird and out of place

>>40642 It's a French jrpg about a painter ending the world. When your primary antagonist is an artist already, an enemy mime from the French hardly seems too odd. It's definitely going for exaggerated regardless.

>$30.61 for standard >$37.21 for deluxe edition On CDkeys right now? I doubt it will get lower than this. Should I just bite the bullet and grab it now?

I'm cautiously optimistic for this one and feel like the story and characters will have to do the heavy lifting for it to be memorable. I do like the style and dramatic music and tone from the trailers. >>40622 >Let's pray Final Fantasy 17 goes back to turn based! I don't expect competence out of SE. >>40644 Honestly tempting, although I'll still probably wait.

Ok I decided to go for standard. $30 bucks is a steal and I didn't like the DE outfits enough after looking at them for a while to shell out an extra $7. >>40645 There are some games I'm waiting on to get cheaper like Khazan and AI Limit but I've been wanting to play this now. Waiting for cheaper than $30 is just penny pinching at this point when Steam has it at $45.

>>40622 Xbox Gamepass consolation prize for having to deal with YAAAS KWEEEEN and NO CRUSTY WHITE DUDE games all year All in all, now that forcing me to buy the Yakuza games, once I play Mass Effect and Dragonage games I'll be canceling

how do you feel about the director citing sekiro as an influence on the combat?

I think this might be the first game i'm preordering in my life (unless we count kickstarting the piece of shit that was Pillars of Eternity a decade ago) There's surely a bit of chauvinism in it since i'm french, but that reveal trailer was love at first sight and people who played the 3 hours-long demo didn't raise any big red flags except for how difficult is it to parry Also i've been listening to the OST non stop, it fucking slaps.

>>40649 It is a single player game and it will be on gamepass too so I'm not buying it. I understand buying live service games because those are bad on the gamepass.

This is the first game in a long while that I felt hype and confident enough to pay full price for the deluxe edition of a game. These french-fags better not dissapoint.

>>40627 >The only things people say about X-2 are negative. I think the only people who say negative things about X-2 are the people like me who wrote it off completely when it released. However, I actually played it a couple years ago, and it's very good as far as the actual game goes. They story is pretty campy and a bit Charlie's Angels, but I'd argue that most Final Fantasy stories are at least at times campy and cringe, while X-2 embraces it more openly. The gameplay is some of the best in the series, it has the best job system, and it has Creature Creator, which is the best minigame in any Final Fantasy. As far as 33 goes, I'm honestly not expecting much from it. A somehow less inspired Sea of Stars. I'm expecting that I'll grow tired of the combat before the end of the game, and that it will be a pretty by the book RPG. Hopefully I'm pleasantly surprised instead.

>>40650 It's also really cheap on cdkeys

>>40626 That was the new team. They suck, they will never be as good as old Squaresoft was.

>>40654 >That was the new team. Incorrect. X-2 was the last game that was fully developed by Squaresoft and not Square Enix. It was released in Japan in March of 2003, then the Square Enix merger happened April of 2003, then X-2 released in the US in November of 2003.

Is CDKeys really trustworthy? Saving 20 Euro on the deluxe edition would be real nice since I also need to buy a bunch of new hard drives and NVMEs right now.

>>40656 It is, but if you want less shady sites that don't get their keys thanks to stolen credit cards and the like, just check isthereanydeal

>>40657 I have been looking at instant gaming and it seems trustworthy but I'm not sure.

>>40656 I bought from them a few times, I got SH2R and Metaphor preorders which were cheaper there and didn't had any problems

>>40638 Jesus Christ, they need to make the font for the descriptions more easier to see. Tiny ass text with blue text on black background?

Why no demo... I need to demo to know how well or not it'll run on my PC...

>>40661 Upgrade your toaster, poorfag.

>>40661 The minimal config is pretty modest. You're not... living in the third world, right anon...?

>>40624 >Embargo ends little over a day before the game comes out Don't like that

>>40656 I used to be wary of it, but it's fine. It's the only gray area keysite I'll use though. GMG, Fanatical for official if it's cheaper.

>>40656 >>40665 It's not mp or has a DRM. You can just pirate it at that point. Seen devs say they prefer that over buying keys. Never seen a dev say vice versa.

>>40635 FFVIII is my favorite, you are not alone.

>>40661 Pirate it first and then decide. Why you acting like a bitch

>>40627 X2 is kino and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. It's fuck you hard in some spots with a tendency to give you a save point past points of no return so if you're not leveled enough for certain bosses they will wipe you gg no re (had this happen to me about 15 hours in and had no recent saves to fallback to) but I liked it overall. Gameplay is king

>>40667 It's so weird but so kino. Probably the most special one >>40669 X-2 is a good game but a bad FF I guess? It's one of those guilty pleasures, it's so fun to play

More combat https://youtu.be/NXfqAqNObn0?feature=shared

>>1173045 >The challenge of a JRPG

>>1173045 >JRPG <Undertale

>>40670 >X-2 is a good game but a bad FF I guess? I don't think that the people who say this even understand what they mean. Most of the FF series is like pretty mediocre, but at least you can rely on a FF game being a 5 or 6 out of 10, and then depending on personal taste, they can be better than that. And for the FF fans who only like games where you can change jobs, it's a job autist game too. It's pretty good, FF or not, you just have to accept that the story isn't serious, and some people can't get past that, or they can't get past "eww girls"

Name a good JRPG. >inb4 Dark Souls

>>40675 There is only one and its name is Golden Sun 2

>>40675 Final Fantasy 16

>>40661 you can refund it on steam if it doesn't run

>>40675 FF6 >>40677 *inhales*

>>40675 Chrono Trigger

>>40679 It's a good game, I don't care what anyone says.

Might pick it up if Todd doesn't drop Oblivion before or on the same day

>>40666 because your money isn't going to the devs. if you have to buy from key resellers just pirate at that point it's like buying used but instead of giving money to a rando like you you give them to a company

Y'know it might be a blessing that halfchan is down during this games release since we'll at least have more quality discussion about it

>>40682 I'll be really mad at Todd if Expedition is good but sells badly because of a fucking shadowdropped remake.

>>40685 If Microsoft does do that I smell a conspiracy. There's no way they wouldn't know expeditions 33 release date and that its also on gamepass. Plus they've just had oblivion cooking in the oven for who knows how long and are shadowdropping it literally out of nowhere, it could've been on literally any other date. Maybe Microsoft is looking to acquire the studio for cheap.

>>40628 I wish it "filtered" me, as it is I played all the way to the end like a retard and I'll never get that time back Most braindead shit I've ever played

>>40687 Yeah, 13 is really bad, but the sequels are a lot better >>40686 The remake is really an evil shit to do, this is the same Microsoft that treated HFR like shit so I wouldn't be surprised. Though we also have someone in square Enix shadowdropping NEOtwewy the same day/week as persona 5 on pc. I can see expedition being overshadowed sadly

The game looks good and the price seems very far, so I did buy it. I hope I will have fun. >>40682 I think the "Oblivion in April" leaks are bullshit, it's months away. I wonder if the retodds at Betthesda will at least offer the DLCs in the base game, Sheogorath's realm was half the fun.

>>40689 I might consider getting it if it's the full version, no additional transactions required.

>>40685 >>40686 Why the fuck is everyone so excited for this remake slop? Oblivion is literally one of the shittiest "RPG"s I've ever played

>>40691 >Why the fuck is everyone so excited for this remake slop? What you must remember is that there are actually people out there who bought Skyrim every single time it rereleased in the past 15 years. There are people whose favorite game is Skyrim, like seriously. These types of people cannot be understood. I'm sure some of them are zoomers who never bothered to play Morrowind or Oblivion, but they did play Skyrim, so they're excited just on that premise, but then there are probably also people who have actually had Skyrim installed on their PCs for the past decade and routinely play it, modded to the teeth, and those people are just looking for a new sandbox to put fat asses into so they can pretend it's something new, when really it's just the same mod ported to the new game, which itself is just the same game with a different skin on it. Lord help us when Morrowind gets a remaster.

Hundred Line Embargo ended already but we have to wait two more days for this even though they release on the same day? I have a bad feeling.

>>40693 >I have a bad feeling. Maybe it wont be too bad. I watched this video (>>40671) and I'm more on board than I was previously. I think it will be a bland and forgettable, by the numbers (kek) RPG experience at worst. I hope it doesn't end up being some time thing where they end up creating their own cycles and whatever, I hope there's a real explanation for it, and it'd be even better if it's not the old killing god JRPG trope, but I might be asking too much with these

>>40693 Heh, there are plenty of good reasons for a late NDA. They seem pretty scared of spoilers, so it makes sense to not let people talk too much about it before release.

>>40695 Imagine if they pull a mgs2

>>40696 >Expedition 33 dies 5 hours in >The real game follows the 32nd Would be pretty funny but i don't see them wasting their voice actors

>>40697 If anyone is dying it's Gustave

Some early review I saw for what it's worth. The guy removed it since then because he most likely broke NDA. >Some of the standard battles do get very sam-ey once you know how to deal with the enemy attacks. >Of course that applies to all RPGs out there but the effect is compounded by the fact that it still requires your full attention because of all the QTE prompts. In that sense, It does fall into the same pitfalls as Sea of Stars. >That's literally the only way I would fault this game. Incredible characters, exciting story beats, phenomenal sound design, deep customisation. >It's the best RPG I've played since Xenoblade Chronicles 3. >I'm not great with scores but for anyone who has played countless other RPGs over the past 4 decades, it's a clear 10. >Not perfect, but a 10 nonetheless in terms of being the full package. >I did get some frame rate issues/ drops in some areas though. (Base PS5) I lived through the early famicom days so I survived the affront. ;) >Have fun guys. It's a great ride.

>>40699 >>Of course that applies to all RPGs out there but the effect is compounded by the fact that it still requires your full attention because of all the QTE prompts. In that sense, It does fall into the same pitfalls as Sea of Stars. This is my biggest worry with the game. I think the rest of the game will be at least a decent ride, but I've played enough turn-based QTE slop to know that it's shit. It sounds good as a premise, but you're playing it for 30+ hours, and especially if there are random battles or if the game requires any sort of grinding at all, you're going to hate it before you're through, because it's never "extra" damage or blocking, it's always mandatory damage or blocking. Which, again, sounds good in principle, but 30 hours of mandatory turn-based QTEs is not nearly as fun of a thing as a single instance of it would lead you to believe.

>>40700 It's not random battles. Every enemy has a clear model on the overworld you can choose to attack or avoid.

>>40699 >It's the best RPG I've played since Xenoblade Chronicles 3. lol lmao

>>40701 I guess it will all depends on how much grinding is necessary to not get curbstomped by the bosses

>>40703 Best case scenario, you can walk straight through the entire game with no grinding as long as you are hitting your QTEs for the bosses and mini-bosses.

>>40637 They should be. Picture related.

>>40705 >twink mc why do they do this?

>>40706 If anything he kind of looks like male 2b. And though I suppose he could be seen as pretty twink-ish, they did give him genuine muscle and he can be pretty manly

>>40699 The thing about full attention is the same feeling I get from RPGs that use tactical combat rather than typical JRPG combat, fights are just as repetitive and predictable but the inputs are more complex so it feels a lot more fatiguing to get through frequent encounters. Pick either more complexity or more fights, not both.

>>40699 >It's the best RPG I've played since Xenoblade Chronicles 3.

>Bethesda announces an "IV" stream on YT/Twitch on April 22nd at 11AM EST/8AM PT/4PM BST Oh come on

>>40710 Boy imagine if they sell that remaster for the full fucking price of $70

>>40711 Even like that I feel bad for coe33 team, good thing about Microsoft is that they release on pc but since HFR and now this they are showing how shitty they are as partners. People were asking for turn based and it was the moment to carry on the "FF turn based" hype. Though they may want to focus on Oblivion since June may have Persona 6 or P4R announcement

legit the only game i am excited for since the year started(can't believe it's april, still feel like i'm in february, oh God i'm getting old T_T). i hope it does not disappoint, no demo is a red flag, but all other available info points to a great game. i'm sure it will be worth it for lune's toes solely.

>>40711 Just a modest $69.99

>>40622 Maelle a cute

>>40622 is the embargo over yet?

This game is gonna get overshadowed by oblivion remake if bethesda decides to release it tomorrow.

>>40713 I'm looking forwards to this, The Precinct in May and Blood of the Dawnwalker if that comes out this year. Like you this is the first time I've been cautiously optimistic for more than 1 vidya in a year.

I am praying it's optimizied and I can play mid graphics range. It looks really fucking good cinematic wise, I hope the gameplay is as good as it looks too. I will wait a couple days before purchasing because if my piss5 station runs it better, well I might as well get it there

>>40716 Reviews probably later today >>40717 For real expedition and the hundred line (2 games I was looking forward the most this week) are gonna get fucked

>>40675 Anything made by Game Arts for the ps1 and Sega Saturn.

>release is literally about to get ruined by an Oblivion shadowdrop What the actual fuck, Microsoft You couldn't give them a week at least?

>>40699 What released after XB3 that was better than XB3?

>>40699 >>Some of the standard battles do get very sam-ey once you know how to deal with the enemy attacks. >>Of course that applies to all RPGs out there but the effect is compounded by the fact that it still requires your full attention because of all the QTE prompts. In that sense, It does fall into the same pitfalls as Sea of Stars. Yeah, I saw this coming from a million miles away. The only way these gimmicky battle systems that require your attention work is if the game is unnaturally well designed for it with the exact right number of battles throughout and with a lot of variety in them. Any game with this system that has the average RPG number of encounters and the average enemy variety is bound to suffer for it. And for what? Seriously, at that point just make it an action RPG. Grinding and backtracking is especially painful in these kinds of systems.

>>40717 >>40723 That's what I was just thinking, how fucking stupid are they to do this to their own game.

>>40726 and by their own, I meant a major gamepass release they paid for.

>He wants to play the worst TES again Not my problem

>>40726 Not to mention the new overwatch season also starts tomorrow. A week earlier expedition 33 would by a guaranteed success, now not so much at least not during launch period.

Yeah, there's such a huge overlap of jrpg players and overwatch players

>>40730 They do lots of weeb collaborations so my guess is that there is an overlap, no matter how small or big it will affect the game's launch.

>>40731 >Comparing multiplayer hero shooter players to singleplayer JRPG players And I thought I was retarded.

Well the game is DOA

>The studio's twitter account retweeting as much stuff about the game as possible to stay relevant I feel bad for them Fuck Microsoft, fuck Bethesda, and fuck retards who are happy playing the same games over and over.

>>40733 >>40734 Yeah, Sony is incompetent but Microsoft is straight evil kek

>>40734 >fuck retards who are happy playing the same games over and over. Unfortunately, these retards seem to be the majority. The average person is so fucking dumb.

Those absolute niggers, what the actual fuck.

Clair Obscur bros, we have a day 1 gamepass game AND it's competing with Oblivion Our excuses are preloaded no matter what steamcharts it gets We fucking won

I've prepurchased a game for the first time ever.

>>40738 I WANTED TO WIN NOT HAVE AN EXCUSE TO BE LOSERS

>>40720 My wife

>>40740 I enjoyed Avowed. I'm used to steamcharts shitposting at this point.

Why did microsoft do this?

The overshadowing could work in the game's favor. Just imagine headlines like this >A GOTY contender got next to no recognition from consumers because of Microsoft negligent scheduling.

>watching the prologue on twitch >exploring the city >one door looks interactive >press x >hear a woman getting fucked and having an orgasm Definitely french

>>40745 nice

preload up

>>40747 Everybody's playing oblivion now, it's actually disgusting what they did to THEIR OWN NEW IP

>>40748 everyone will be bored of oblivion in 2 days so this game still has a chance

>>40747 39 GB isn't bad for 2025.

>>40747 >>40750 >39 GB isn't bad for 2025. Yeah, seriously, not bad considering everything else is 100+ gigs for no reason at all.

>>40752 god I want this game to succeed so fucking much

>>40699 they should have followed metaphor's method, once you outlevel the enemies you just kill the enemies on the map instead of doing a regular battle

>>40745 >fucking women >french pick one

>>1214327 Can't you try just a little bit harder? This isn't KayCee.

>>40752 Music seems to be the aspect that really screams passion project more than anything else, they went all out with it. >>40755 What a strange post. I can't think of a place that has enjoyed fucking women more than France.

>>40752 Goes hard but I'm not a fan of the screamo cringe rock sections, just give me more choir stuff.

Buy this game and pirate Oblivion.

>>40760 What a faggot.

>>40761 That's mandatory to be a game journalist

>>40752 >33 minutes heh

>>40752 Jesus FUCK, Une vie à rêver is insane

Just got home from work and seeing this after I hit the preload button, they didn't shadowdrop it for preorders at the same time as Oblivion did they?

>>40760 >small independent team lol. lmao. https://www.sandfall.co/team This is about as "small" and "independent" as Sea of Straws' well-staffed and well-funded dev outfit. These journos are the same kind who fell for the bullshit about Dave the Diver being an indie game.

>>40766 Yes 30 is kind of small. Not steam indie small but still small for AA. And Sandfall is independent. The game isn't but the studio is as they're not owned by anyone but themselves.

>>40766 This is relatively small albeit What, are we supposed to not be impressed because it isn't literally 3 people plus a soundtrack guy that made a game that looks like this? Not everything can be a Signalis tier achievement, this is still pretty fucking impressive, my man.

>>40759 That's the plan

>>40764 Reminds me of Gesualdo or di Lasso https://youtu.be/_Wn8DAOKT5w?si=IsRM_cvsk8DtQcQ_

It's over

It's so sad bethesdaslop is going to eclipse the shit out of this game.

even jews are against it

>>40773 >33 gorillion

>>40773 I wish the holocaust was real

>>40773 I strongly suspect this is a troll

>>40771 >>40772 I thought I was stronger, but it looks like I'll be making two steam purchases this week.

>>40773 I've never even heard of this day.

>this and hundred line on the same day it's not fair, there's nothing else I wanna play this year

>>40779 Yeah, but this one is free if you have Gamepass, bro

When do review embargos lift? Soon right?

>>40782 In a little over 6 hours if >>40624 is telling the truth

>>40782 4 bongs

This honestly looks really interesting. It's rare I jump on a game I haven't heard much about or isn't an established IP, so I'm looking forward to something refreshingly new.

I'm hype for the game but I do fear the combat might feel tedious when you do the same timed button press against random encounter #12351

>>40786 From what i gathered, there are no random encounters, you see all enemies and can choose to ignore them, and they only respawn when you rest

On one hand I don't wish to abandon the thread. But on the other hand I hate having a bunch of journos pet influencers tell me their opinions, trying to influence mine before I've even had a chance to form my own. I'm already sold so I know that I'll get the game on launch anyway. And when I do I'd rather play the game without having a bunch of review scores or inflammatory headlines float around my mind.

>>40773 shoulda called it expedition 1488...

>>40630 >and could send a message to the fucks at SE Nothing can do that. They have made turn-based, low budget jRPGs themselves, which were very successful. They still think that they need to make mainline FF games into AAA media events, even though that hasn't worked since the 90's.

What are your guys score predictions? I'm hoping for at least 85-88.

>>40791 I don't give a shit. The only thing I want from a game review is performance issues

>>40742 >>40768 Based Avowedbro. A good game that didn't deserve the shit it got. Reviews should be up in two minutes btw

>>40791 83-86

HOLY SHIT

>>40790 You'd think that wouldn't be the case with Persona 5 and Metaphor getting more positive reception than XV, XVI, and the VII remake trilogy. People still love turn based JRPGs.

>I must admit that I initially had some prejudices and doubts about this title, mainly due to the low price at which it was released. However, Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 turns out to be a game destined to become a classic mondoxbox >Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 sets new standards for turn-based combat and may have changed my perspective on JRPGs forever. You can always give it your all in combat: Your items simply replenish at the next save point. This feature should become standard in the genre! 4p.de >Without exaggeration, one of the best debuts from a studio I've seen in decades as a player and critic. areajugones >Few games get close to the satisfaction of becoming a parry god in Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, but Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 stands proudly alongside it. gamereactor More interesting to me are the "downsides" that a lot of these publications claimed: >There's no minimap! Good >There's invisible walls! This is genuinely a sign of a well designed game at this point. Fuck open worlds that care more about immersion and size than quality. >Some of the combat concepts feel odd and not well explained enough! Kino >The menus are pretty clunky Alright, yeah, that's not great >The pacing of the story feels really rushed at times That's a shame That one review we got early complaining about the combat is alone. Everyone else says that the combat is phenomenal and one of the best parts of the game along with the story. I'm really looking forward to this, bros. With Indiana Jones, Kunitsu-Gami, Avowed, Blue Prince and now this, we've been eating good over in gamepass land..

>€45 on PSN Holy fuck what a steal, I had to pounce on this even though I'm working on my backlog.

>>40797 >Everyone else says that the combat is phenomenal and one of the best parts of the game along with the story. This should be the biggest red flag of them all though. Anyone praising Clair Obscure on its combat merits and acting like pic related is somehow exclusive to this game is outing themselves as a scrub and a fake JRPG fan who still unironically believes that most JRPGs can be won simply by holding X and spamming basic attacks. No one give these retards a copy of Pokemon or they'll have a goddamn heart attack from how much "paying attention" you're expected to do in order to gain an advantage over your opponents.

>>40799 You lost. Get over it.

>>40800 I didn't lose shit. Gaming as a whole, and actual fans/devs of RPGs lost. Now, instead of actual high-quality JRPGs that challenge the player to strategize and use their brains, we will continue to be inundated with a certified gold deluge of games with increasingly artificial gameplay, all because people want to play RPGs as a fashion statement instead of actually playing RPGs. Rather than encouraging devs to produce good games with solid fundamentals, the next 10-20 years will see nothing more than a regression in development and a focus on things that have absolutely nothing to do with RPGs. This kind of garbage is to RPGs what Vampire Survivors is to STG.

>>40801 >actual high-quality JRPGs that challenge the player to strategize like what? You only thought it was a challenge because you were 10 when you played it. Any jrpg that is hard isn't high-quality. It's a niche within a niche game that barely anyone played

>>40799 You're being schizo, nobody is saying that.

Actually forget it, anyone who likes Pokemon should kill themselves.

>>40802 If people were actually interested in RPGs with excellent gameplay, they would demand more games like picrel instead of slop that holds their hand and tells them "PRESS X NOT TO DIE" each time an attack comes their way.

This ugly, woke slop will flo- well, it'll do OK cause gaymers suck cocks

>>40799 Reviewers are paid off, they said Avowed is decent to good when it's so shitty it shouldn't have even been allowed to be published

>>40807 >Catalog Paid off by industry pillar known as Sandfall Interactive?

>>40805 They aren't interested in good games, they're interested in le big blockbuster releases that have tons of hype and positive review scores that they can get a dopamine rush when spending money on. These people convinced themselves Octopath Traveler was good. They happily spend money on games they could play every year via emulation. They bought Sea of fucking Stars.

>>40805 Dragon Quarter is sitting on my shelf. It's not hard, you just get a forced game over if you use dragon too much. You can safely use it to burst down every boss and defeat all normal enemies without it. It's also niche, not high quality and hated by most jrpg players. You are an idiot.

>>40808 Sandfall got bankrolled enough to hire dozens of people (30+ I believe), including celebrity voice actors. In one of the vlogs on their channel they were showing off this building they bought to work on the game, and multiple of their employees commented how they're earning enough to quit their day jobs to work on the game. Yes, paid off by Kepler Interactive.

>>40805 >dragon quarter schizo is back The game sucks and killed the BoF series, fuck you

>>40810 Dragon Quarter is unironically one of the only "arcade" JRPGs ever designed, which is exactly why so many fake JRPG fans hate it and got filtered by it. No other JRPG is constantly trying to push you forward like DQ (even though it doesn't go far enough). No other JRPG punishes you for poor play while rewarding excellent play like DQ. Dragon Quarter hangs your performance over your head and constantly reminds you when you're playing well vs when you're doing badly. It lets you "credit feed" the game if you just can't win on your own, but is really meant to be played as a 1CC, and only becomes more and more fun as you start pushing the limits of 1-All play. The fact that DQ failed to resonate with JRPG players of the time despite bringing some of the most significant advances ever seen to the genre speaks to the low skill and low IQ of players, and not to whether you think DQ is questionably designed.

>>40813 Except you literally just one shot bosses with the dragon and don't use it anywhere else to faceroll the shitty game. You are an idiot.

>>40812 Anon, BOF1 was crap, BOF2 had major design issues (especially the encounter rate and menu design holy shit), 3 was absolutely glacial in its pacing and very hamfisted in its emotional moments, 4 was when it finally managed to make a good game that could sit comfortably on the top 10 lists of PSX JRPGs. Dragon Quarter is very divisive I will admit, but that's largely because it deliberately went out of its way to go invert as many BOF and JRPG conventions as possible.

>>40807 Avowed was good and you're a fag. This sounds like it's even better.

why is this game getting so much mainstream attention?

>>40726 >>40723 Microsoft are turbo retarded when it comes to release dates. It's like they are doing it on purpose due to some internal power struggles or something. They've been killing some of their games for years with imbecilic releases or shadow drops.

>>40817 Cause it looks good

>fake jrpg fan this >fake jrpg fan that Fucking hell what births this kind of autism?

>>40817 It's got a more memorable style compared to most games that aim for realism for one thing

>>40795 the reviews are insane, 91 on opencritic

>>40817 It's good?

>>40817 underage redhead sexo

Devs changed the steam miniature. They know what sales. Hoping Maelle will defeat Zionimax's Oblishit

>>40815 >but that's largely because it deliberately went out of its way to go invert as many BOF and JRPG conventions as possible. I love BoF and really like Dragon Quarter. But Dragon Quarter is not and was never as novel as you make it out to be. Does it differ a lot from the typical RPG? Sure. It does indeed. But why and in what way? By adapting and taking after tons of Mystery Dungeon conventions, and established ideas from roguelikes mores broadly. That doesn't mean the game is bad at all. It is a very interesting roguelike. But the game is ultimately very derivative.

I've just purchased it so I can preload, if it turns out to be shit I can just refund it.

>>40825 >>40826 they should change this one too

>>40829 Agree it's generic. This one would sale much better

>>40829 The image looks like slop, really can't tell what's it's about.

one of the characters is 100% based on robert pattinson and one is 100% based on a chinese kpop girl.

Is this a day 1 game or can I wait a few weeks before buying and not miss out on much?

>>40833 You can wait but it will be a spoilers heavy game

>>40641 What hatred? Square never stopped making turn-based games.

>>40835 Making a game with timed hits is in and of itself an act of contempt towards turn based gameplay.

>>40797 i'm hearing the combat is repetitive and the story is the best part

>>40646 >>40648 >>40715 >>40720 Huge fucking heads.

>>40836 Even older JRPGs like FF6 have real time button input elements (like Sabin’s special skill). Mother 3 has rhythm game elements. Both of those games are critically acclaimed. You’re just a phony who doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about.

>>40836 Ah yes, muh menus.

>>40836 Ah yes, muh menus.

>>40839 And the one common thing shared between all turn-based games with timed hits and other "skill" elements? They invalidate the strategy component of their games by being easy and providing too great of an advantage to ignore. And if the "skill" element isn't too easy, then it is effectively random and no better than RNG. 16 hit combos in Mother 3 are too easy to execute and give such an absurd advantage that you would be a fool not to use them. Bum Rush in FFVI is effortless to execute and there is no reason not to use it unless Sabin has an even easier way to deal 9999 damage. Want a SRW game where you can completely invalidate the gameplay by MANUALLY DODGING 100% of enemy attacks throughout the game while MANUALLY HITTING 100% of your shots? Then I've got good news for you: it exists, and it's ZOE 2173 Testament. This style of game design is good only when a game is completely designed around it and does not even pretend to be a JRPG or other such turn-based "strategic" game. Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga, for example, is barely a JRPG and doesn't pretend to be one, instead going all-in on the timed hits and timed evasion, making statistics and levels little more than a difficulty adjustment factor. Shoehorning in these elements into RPGs/JRPGs/SRPGs and other adjacent genres will not stand the test of time, while strong fundamental gameplay predicated on skill as a strategist will be fun forever.

>>40648 >teambuilding and preparation before bosses is not needed since you can just mash the parry button and ignore boss mechanics this is a bad sign to me

the amount of shilling backing up this game, holy shit

>>40842 Yeah bro, crit rng is way better than pressing x on a prompt.

Any decent review worth watching?

>>40844 yeah haha buy an ad bro am i right lmao

>>40844 Bruh microsoft killed and buried this game with horrible release date, they don't care about it enough to pay shills.

>>40848 how is this release date horrible? It's not their fault bethesda decided to fuck them over

>92 on opencritic can't wait to watch 25+ year veteran nippon devs with 19 jarpig titles to their name malding in interviews because 30 frenchmen with a budget of 5 baguettes and a stick of butter perfected their dogshit genre in a single attempt whilst their publisher actively tried to sabotage them

>>40851 2001's Anachronox already BTFO most nip devs.

>>40849 Microsoft owns Bethesda for several years already dude. They are tard wrangling them hard. Microsoft decides release dates, not Bethesda. They forced Bethesda to push Starfield release date for a year to finish it. Bethesda doesn't have a say in release dates anymore. And I am 99% sure the whole idea to make Oblivion remaster didn't even come from Bethesda and Microsoft basically took their IP and gave it to chinks.

why people suddenly hate this game???

>>40842 >Shoehorning in these elements into RPGs/JRPGs/SRPGs and other adjacent genres will not stand the test of time Recently Yakuza and Undertale/Deltarune did it and so far they haven't backed down. Atlus seems to be holding on but they're adding some bullshit of their own too. >>40851 Reviewers convinced me Blue Prince was the best of its kind in years, but it wasn't even half as good as some recent well known indie titles in the genre. I'm betting it will be an adequate 8/10 RPG that caters to the more casual audience, that's still a fun experience for veterans but will be forgotten in a year, something on the level of DD2.

>>40854 4chan /v/ tendie/squeenixfags migrants

sex with maelle. opinions?

>>40851 >92 opencritic we're so back also, Square aside, a lot of japs are still making good JRPGS, like Octopath and Metaphor >>40857 based

>>40846 acg

>>40844 >shilling You mean JRPG fans have certain expectations for a new game? For a genre that seems to be drifting further and further away from its roots?

>>40851 how did they get those voice actors with a small budget?

>>40853 fair enough your probably right >Microsoft basically took their IP and gave it to chinks. It was a french team actually

>>40861 you ever have a fresh parisian baguette? i'd take one for each recording session over a standard union VA's wage

>>40862 If I remember correctly it's from Singapore and credits are filled with asian sounding names and couple ukrainians

>>40863 where are you reading they had a small budget?

RPG category this year in the game awards is gonna be between Expedition and The Hundred Line

>>40866 KDC2 will win journos love this slop so much

hope my 1080 can run it

>>40864 I was going of that one insider video they released the team seemed mostly french. They probably did outsource other stuff to Asia though one team rarely works on a game all by themselves these days

It’ll probably have a very predictable twist, like Maelle being the Paintress, and the whole story actually being a neverending cycle where history repeats itself.

>>40870 The CEO of the studio is a big FF8 fan...so it might be possible. Also, its obvious the paintress isnt the "final big bad" but it would be kino if she was and one of the mechanics of the fight was she "painting" a countdown on the canvas and the characters started disappearing as the countdown reached their ages.

>>40851 >trusting memecritic

sorry for my terrible english but is there any atheist theme? then ain't gonna play it, nah ain't christcuck, just tired of post-modernism bs

>>40622 I just hope it's fun.

>>40865 i made it up to further my agenda

Well? Does Gustave bang Maelle, or not?

>>40848 >bruh Kill yourself nigger

>competent and original JRPG in the year 2025 >but it's by the frogs monkey paw'd

>>40817 Dunno about mainstream, but this game got my attention the same way a game would get my attention when I would walk into a gamestop as a kid and buy a random game for cheap: it just looked good.

I've noticed that when people say >turn based JRPGs are dying they really mean >Square Enix didn't make FFXV, XVI, or the VII remake trilogy turn based because there's no shortage. Square Enix themselves are still making and remaking them with other teams. Atlus never stopped. And Sega did a reverse Final Fantasy with Yakuza.

>>40880 It's a racist term according to the FFXVI guy. I never heard of this sentiment before so I must assume he's just making shit up. https://www.rpgsite.net/news/13861-naoki-yoshida-doesnt-want-final-fantasy-xvi-to-be-called-a-jrpg

>>40801 >>40799 Jesus you are fuckin miserable.

>>40880 This pretty much. People who parrot this opinion are either normies who only know Final Fantasy, or graphic whores who want their big AAA turn-based JRPG with Naughty Dog level graphics.

>>40880 >Square Enix themselves are still making and remaking them And Square Enix themselves have said that turnbased RPGs were a dying trend. Some of their own arguments for why Final Fantasy is no longer turnbased are ridiculous.

>>40870 >like Maelle being the Paintress Where did this meme/rumour/idea start? Did some dev anonymously 'leak' it themselves or what? Why would some random Anon suggest that Maelle could be the paintress? Based on what? Have I missed something big? Was there actually something in the few trailers and press-demo that suggested that this could be the case? It just sounds very random and baseless to me. Like >Could [Insert Random Female Main Character] be The Game's Female Villain? And I don't know. Maybe? But based on what?

>>40867 I hope it doesn't, I don't know much about Clair Obscur but having no nigger party members is a big plus, hopefully it has no anti-Christian shit in it or kike worship like KCD2

>>40885 a lot of people are still salty that Rinoa = Ultimecia was deconfirmed

>>40881 >hes making it up I mean cmon, bitching about it is lame but JRPGs are always known as underaged panty quest XVII back in the day. The stereotype of fatlus fans even come from JRPGs.

>>40886 it's a faux JRPG aping off of classic FF, the plot will most likely involve killing a god expy of some sorts. If you can handle safer sephiroth you can handle this

>>40887 At least the Rinoa = Ultimecia thing was based on you know, the actual game. And not some short pre-release trailers and demo, that features neither Rinoa nor Ultimecia to any significant extent. It just seems kind of random to me.

>>40888 Nobody knew or cared about JRPGs in the 7th gen enough to make jokes about the fanbase, I literally never even knew what an "SMT" or an "Atlus" until I started posting on /v/ in 2010 and noticed all the Persona 3/4 threads.

>>40889 Well the Japanese interpretation of "God" in most of their media is basically just the Demiurge from Gnosticism, you could interpret that as anti-Chtistian I suppose.

>>40885 The main idea is that Maelle, being the youngest party member at 16, would be the sole surviving member of the expedition, implied by that scene of her screaming in anguish at the end of the first trailer. This would then lead to her doing something drastic to undo her comrades’ deaths, possibly putting her on the path of becoming the Paintress and becoming the very thing she fought against.

Mwaahaaa the French

>>40891 >nobody knew or cared normalfags sure, but your regular gamer always knew what they were. And I doubt you didnt see some japanese animay games on shelves or magazines and thought "wow, those games are for losers!"

>>40895 >G4 kikes making racist jokes about the Japanese because they hate them Doesn't mean shit, I knew normies in school who liked Final Fantasy and shit, even XIII for some godforsaken reason.

>>40895 X-Play was never unfair towards Japanese games. They were simply ruthless towards games they didn't like, which just as often included western games as Japanese ones. Now prepare to ACK at these positive reviews of the genre people claim X-Play hated more than any - the JRPG. >Shadow Hearts - From the New World: 4/5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e64slHvha4A >Shadow Hearts - Covenant: 4/5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_MT5Vh6uTg >Final Fantasy X-2: 4/5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G-uE1Ogv98 >Final Fantasy XII: 5/5 youtube.com/watch?v=yoRqDt0GiSE >Dragon Quest VIII: 5/5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3mZAAwZW-I >Shin Megami Tensei 3 Nocturne: 5/5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ckniA7YbB0 >Shin Megami Tensei Persona 3 FES: 4/5 youtube.com/watch?v=9LP_TkQs7vI >Shin Megami Tensei Persona 4: 4/5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMI8KTniCZk >Jeanne d'Arc: 4/5 youtube.com/watch?v=7cPDeGzz4iU >Enchanted Arms: 4/5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LN03yYA-L8 >Kingdom Hearts II: 4/5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxa0JOSrhW0 And this is only scratching the surface. I can go through the JRPG reviews X-Play did for a while and pick out plenty of times when they were 100% fair - actually, that's all of them. The only time they gave games shit for being Japanese was when they were SHIT for being Japanese instead of GOOD for being Japanese. So what's with this revisionism where people believe that X-Play HATED Japanese games and JRPGs in particular? Because that's fanfiction.

>>40805 Based Dragon Quarter enjoyer. >>40812 Extremely cringe Dragon Quarter hater. Breath of Five VI, the mobile gacha game, is what killed BoF, not Dragon Quarter, though you would be correct if you said DQ had been terribly under appreciated and misunderstood by the average BoF fan on release.

I really hope the performance will be stable and optimized. This is my biggest fear. Everything else looks good.

>>40899 >Unreal Engine 5 Yeah, not happening.

>>40896 >>40897 I'm not saying that most gamers hated JRPGs back in the day because that just doesnt make any sense. I'm saying that JRPGs did have a negative connotation with western audiences back in the day with most gamers and even now. Saying that yoshida is just making shit up about JRPGs having a bad rep back then feels disingenuous to me when most people can vividly remember it.

>>40799 Please piss off, tendie

The whole JRPG discourse isn't even something new, Nomura has said pretty much the same thing back in 2015 Granted, they're both somewhat dishonest about it because it's just a moral veneer to justify the "wider audience" angle but I feel most remember the apex of Bioware's popularity where there were a lot of articles saying they made the japanese industry obsolete with ME and DAO, that one probably annoyed them significantly

>>40903 Nips are fucking retards. People use the term "jrpg" to refer to RPGs from Japan; and those RPGs are highly regarded thanks to the work of legendary studios that shat out one jrpg after the other in the ps1 and ps2 era. This dumb nigger, together with Yoshida, think this is somehow a racist term. Be glad that your games dont get put in the same basket as modern western RPGs, dumb retard.

>>40827 >But Dragon Quarter is not and was never as novel as you make it out to be. Yes it was. The reason that people who have not played it since it first came out "hate" it so much is exactly because it was "novel". Roguelites were not really a thing yet, and definitely not a roguelite RPG. Did they exist? Sure, but also not really. Whereas today, roguelites are popular and are seen as games with incremental progress, back then DQ was seen as something that erases your progress and your work and gates advancements behind dying. And no one liked save tokens. If DQ had been less "novel" people would have liked it more. If it was just another copy of BoF3/4, "fans" would not hate it so much.

I'm thinking about buying this but i'm not a huge fan of JRPGs how far does this lean into that influence? when you're not in combat is it just hallways with some branching paths that lead to a shiny item at a dead end

This DQ talk kinda interests me tbh, what was divisive about it? Is it Unlimited Saga-tier nonsense or just "tried something at the wrong time"?

hot damn those reviews, its the best reviewed game of the year how did the french do it?

>>40906 it sounds like the devs took a lot of inspiration from JRPGs at least as far as combat since a number of them like old FF, so take that as you will

>>40846 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQU_UjdfyTM Mortismal

Square Enix is finished

>>40911 Turn based chads we're back in business

>>40911 Fucking moron

>>40911 Lets be real. Thats never a 92 from a fresh studio. But the devs are all white french guys and journos hate whites, so i wonder why the rating is not lower. Maybe because the game is actually good? Or is it the lesbian couple that gave it 20 more points? As someone that played RPGs her whole life, to me it looks like a solid 80-81 game. 84 if the story is emotional and well-told.

>>40858 >Square aside, a lot of japs are still making good JRPGS, like Octopath Octopath is Square. Square is still making/producing traditional JRPGs, they just don't seem to be mainline Final Fantasy titles anymore. Or, they could be, but SE only releases 1 new FF game per decade now. >>40870 >the whole story actually being a neverending cycle where history repeats itself. Yeah, I said it in a post earlier, but I hope it's not this where they either "create" their own cycle and assured destruction by trying to stop the paintress, and I hope it's not just some "we're killing god/defying fate" stale JRPG stuff. It's probably asking way too much for that to be the case, but it'd be nice if it wasn't something predictable like that. >>40881 >It's a racist term according to the FFXVI guy. I never heard of this sentiment before so I must assume he's just making shit up. Also Nomura. All of Square Enix, probably. I know that zoomers probably don't remember, but Adam Sessler (and Xplay/ExtendedPlay/GameSpotTV) had a hate boner for JRPGs and linear games. They were all about western open world games, probably not coincidentally as a propaganda machine sales vehicle. They might give a JRPG a 3/5 or maybe even a 4/5, but the entire review would be full of snide remarks and jabs at the specifically "J"RPG genre. This went on all the way up until at least XIII came out, at which point I stopped consuming video game media and started having a life because I graduated high school. The "Xplay" opinion also extended into forums and was generally the opinion of 4chan but also of sites like GameFAQs.

>>40914 Both girls seem romanceable by Gustav going by the mention of relationship meters.

>>40916 You misinterpreted that system by a long shot.

>>40915 >Adam Sessler (and Xplay/ExtendedPlay/GameSpotTV) had a hate boner for JRPGs and linear games Fake and gay news brought up exactly by the same crowd creating this illusory ragebait narrative. Square and the jew journos are scum. Meanwhile an actual jap: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/hideki-kamiya-thinks-japan-should-be-proud-of-jrpg-and-wants-to-use-j-action/

>>40904 modern western RPGs are still better chudbeit

>>40919 Depends what you value in an RPG. And you posted the one example that even though it was giga pozzed, still was decent because the actual game was solid. BG3 is an anomaly.

>>40919 BG3 is a JRPG disguised with a WRPG skin, fuck you even kill god at the end

>>40838 That's just how French people looked like before the industrial revolution increased body size significantly.

>>40915 Also worth noting there was a genuine media push against the Japanese industry in the late 00s/early 10s. Pic related was at the time Inafune was still a considerable figure in the business, for example Was also coincidentally at the time journalists tried to push the whole "video games need to mature" angle in earnest with western moviegames at the forefront, so I could understand that some people at Square still feel a bit annoyed

>>40851 Nips always mindbreak themselves. I remember when a chink gacha game look really good graphically and then it was revealed that it used a modified version of unity. Some nip indie developer had a breakdown of asking why nip indie developers haven't achieved that kind of graphical quality even after years and years and why the nip market has always been stagnating.

>>40921 So God of War must be a JRPG then.

>>40913 ff7 re is a good game thougheverbeit. i wouldn't rate it 92 but still above 80 objectively.

>>40907 They did a lot of things that make normies feel like the game is harder than it is. >hard time limit in the form of a counter that ticks up constantly towards 100%, at which point you get an automatic game over >the counter goes up a lot when you use the JRPG equivalent of a screen-clearing Shmup bomb (dragon transformation) >finite encounters and fundamentally limited resources >experience gained is partially based on performance in battles >performance in battles matters because HP is your most precious resource >brutal encounters that are designed to bait out bad decisions and punish poor play >oppressive environments and a general malaise permeating the world >barebones story; focus is almost entirely on the gameplay >limited saves; save files self destruct if you try to copy/paste them around to other cards >no inns, no free full heals anywhere in the game, a very different take on hub zones/bases/towns >battle system is essentially an all-range SRPG and not niggas in a row, which demands more mental effort on the player's part to consider positioning, arrange traps/barriers, utilize terrain, etc. The reality is that the majority of what Dragon Quarter does is psychological warfare against the player. It's not actually as difficult as you think it is, but it does a great job of making you feel otherwise and has a knack for fooling you into making mistakes you probably wouldn't make in other games. People don't backtrack or explore thoroughly because they feel pressured by the counter and end up underprepared. Missing encounters or gaining less experience/money/burning resources has a resounding impact that compounds as you go through the game; just finding 1 skill item or 1 specific weapon can literally make or break a run, yet you can still clear the game even with a surprising level/resource deficit as well. It's just not a very kind game to people who are used to being able to out-grind their JRPG troubles. As I mentioned previously, it really has arcade blood running through it and you're sort of meant to approach it under the assumption that you'll probably die, have to restart, and use what you learned (and carry over experience/items) to do better on your next attempt. A first-time blind playthrough 1CC is definitely possible if you realize early on what the developers are up to, but people steeped in traditional JRPG waters should expect to have a bad time until they acclimate.

>>40887 >a lot of people are still salty that Rinoa = Ultimecia was deconfirmed It was never "deconfirmed". Nojima (the writer) has never publicly commented on it. The person who said it's not true was Kitase who did not write VIII, or at least not primarily, and definitely not that part. Additionally, he has since retracted that statement specifically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8asSQorSng >>40890 Anon, it's a JRPG. There are going to be tropes. Upon learning that there is a never ending cycle of death and that a group of people go each year to stop it and never return, the first thought on any video game player's mind would be that somehow it's a time loop or cyclical thing where going to stop it assures that it continues, or that people from the expedition party somehow become the thing they are trying to stop. It's not even a far reach, and Maelle is just *the* girl anyone knows about and have formed an attraction to. I think she's also somewhat overly depicted in art, which could be just because she's kinda cute (if you can call the artstyle cute) or it could have more implications than that. >>40907 >Is it Unlimited Saga-tier nonsense or just "tried something at the wrong time"? It is absolutely not Unlimited Saga impenetrability. I bought that game for like $5 when Blockbuster went out of business, and it did not come with a manual. I didn't want to look anything up either. I never got very far, and I didn't even know that Select was needed in the game, because you normally never push it. Horribly impenetrable game unless you have a guide, I assume. Anyway, Dragon Quarter was simply "not Breath of Fire", the same way XV, XVI, and Remake are "not Final Fantasy" (though Remake seems to get a pass, either due to being grandfathered in or due to VII fans having double standards). There are a few games as a kid that I just never gave a real shot, and DQ was one of them. Got it for Christmas the year it came out, popped it in, saw it wasn't a turn-based JRPG, saw you had to die to advance basically, and I nope'd out of it. Decided for years that I "hated" it until I started going through backlogs and was like "hey, I'll actually try this game out" and ended up really liking it and playing through it multiple times cuz it's short and that's part of the game as well. Just stubborn and dedicated JRPG fans being unwilling to change or accept change.

>>40918 I'm not going to entertain your revisionist history, (1) post ID shitposter. I lived through it, and there are other people in this thread confirming that what I said is true.

>>40928 Its incredible how FF8 becomes a thinking mans game just by accepting that one fan theory. What amazes me even to this day is the fact that the R=U theory is solid enough to make sense and the writers themselves completely missed it. FF8 has layers even the creators were unaware of. That is an actual masterpiece. You may not like the game but you cannot deny that. Especially CD1 was absolute kino from beginning to end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY9QzQdRMbA

>>40929 You were fed a false narrative, see >>40897 Also shut the fuck up about nip inferiority complexes already, make a new thread about it if you feel like discussing dumb journos.

>>40927 >>40928 Thanks for the breakdown, that's one more game for the backlog at least

>353225 Filtered. I was not fed anything. I lived through it, and multiple people in this thread did as well. You're a zoomer who has no idea. >>40932 >Thanks for the breakdown, that's one more game for the backlog at least Something that I don't think was touched on is that when I compare it to a roguelite, it really is a roguelite RPG. In traditional BoF games, you get the "Dragon Sword" maybe at like the 75% point and it's one of the best weapons, with usually only one weapon better than it in the game, which is usually a rare drop. In Dragon Quarter, you cannot get the "Dragon Sword" until your second run of the game, and it happens very early in the run. Each run through, your "D-ratio" gets better ("1/8192" to "1/64" for example) and you get more story scenes based on your D-ratio. https://bof.fandom.com/wiki/D-Ratio >>40930 >You may not like the game but you cannot deny that. True. You calso cannot deny that it has one of if not the best OSTs in Final Fantasy.

inb4 Maelle gets jeeted or nogged as the game epilogue for being the "future of humanity" as the new Eve and Adam I don't trust the French to not be cucks

>>40934 Don't worry we don't trust you despicable mutts ourselves. After all you're the uncontested leader in woke matters, all that shit came from your hairy, fat satanic asshole. Now go worship a menorah. Turd.

>>40935 I'm not A*erican

>>40935 >>40936 I am, fuck you guys 😭

>>40934 If they're based, her "Adam" will be Gustave.

>>40938 no way not even the french have the balls, also he is 100% dying before the end

For goy passers, does the NZ work now?

microsoft store says it's 40GB, miracle compression or this game is like 10h long?

>>40938 she's his sister, anon

>>40941 30 hours so probably a mix of good compressing and the game being short

>>40941 Why should a JRPG weight more than 40GB?

>>40941 >filesizes are so absurd something that is actually reasonably sized give the feeling of a scam

If this game runs like shit on my system because of UE5 I'm done with gaming. Like, forever, for good.

>>40946 it will you know it will

>>40946 UE5 isn't even new. It's from 2022. It's what people do with it that makes a game heavy. You can see the specs on steam anyways. For me? 30 FPS.

>>40948 And it still runs like shit and stutters on every single game.

>>40945 kek There's probably fuck-all pajeets involved.

How long is this game? The low price is a red flag. I'm not paying for a 10 hour quickie.

>a proper JRPG in the current year >mature cast of attractive characters that aren't retarded gook tropes or neutered western mutts >excellent Baroque soundtrack and good visuals >critics actually fucking like it is gaming saved?

>>40951 Seems to be at least ~30 hours, with some places saying 60-80 if you do everything.

>>40951 devs say 30 hours

>>40910 Excellent review, excited even ever more.

>>40951 >the low price is a red flag most retarded shit I've read about the game so far, seriously subhuman brainrot shit, a lesser known dev team puts out a new IP with unproven credentials for lesser than triple A and it's a red flag, fucking morons >"I'm not paying for a 10 hour quickie" >it's on fucking Gamepass >it doesn't have Denuvo Reviews say 30~ hours but 60 for a completionist. Take from that what you will. Conservatively 20-40 maybe. But you sound like a fucking retarded faggot who wants to find any excuse not to pay for it. Well here's your excuse: it's UE5 slop.

>>40951 are you fucking retarded? 30 hours is the ideal length for a JRPG, better than them dragging the fuck on for 60 hour slogs

>>40930 Japanese writers are too cowards to make a waifu the villain

>>40958 They've done it time and time again. But usually they'll redeem her once she's defeated.

>>40957 Some retards would genuinely rather a game be 100 hours of bloat that does nothing but waste their time than have a 20-30 hour lean and trim pleasant experience that does not overstay its welcome.

>>40960 some of my favorite games are long as fuck and end up feeling like a full fledged adventure/journey because of it I don't understand why people think longer automatically means bloat or lackluster content. if I'm enjoying something, I want more of it. I've played enough games that I've been able to comfortably get 50+ hours of enjoyment out of to know it's possible

>>40962 What are your favorite games? Are they JRPGs too?

>>40962 name one 60+ hour JRPG that isn't bloated, I dare you.

>>40963 some are. for JRPGs my favorites are dragon quest 8, disgaea 2, personas 3/4, tales of the abyss, and kingdom hearts 2 if you can count it I also like souls games, monster hunter, okami >>40964 what is bloat to you? grinding? because pretty much the only series I can think of where I went and actually fought shit I'd already fought a million times before for items and exp and stuff is disgaea

>>40952 >proper JRPG >timed hits and timed defense Pick one and only one.

I just bought this. Not entirely sure why.

Is this the titanfall 2 of 2025?

>>40962 That's great for you, but for me even 40 hours is pushing it a lot of the time. It seems to me like a 20-30 hour RPG can be a perfectly pleasant experience, whereas when an RPG begins approaching 40 hours it starts falling apart.

I predict somewhere between 300k and 3 million sales.

can anyone inform me if Maelle wants Gustave's big brother cock, I need to know if the French are based?

>>40941 why would file size correspond to game length?

>>40973 Because true RPGs have prebuilt content instead of randomly generated slop to waste away 1000 hours?

>>40971 3 Mil seems impossible imo I haven't really seen super hype for the game outside of the jrpg focused crowd but I hope the game does well for it's team nonetheless.

>>40720 I want to fuck clair obscur senseless

>>40971 I don't give a shit about sales and I'm glad I haven't seen sales shitposting since leaving cuckchan, but my guess is a milly

>>40977 I think it was pretty smart to put it on Game Pass. No one on xbox plays jrpgs or buys games anyway so they get the M$ back and still get the Sony and Steam sales.

>>40941 It's only 60 hours long if you do a lot of the side content apparently, that's very short for any RPG, FF7 Rebirth took me about 110 hours to beat, Metaphor took me 95 hours, I just spent 80 hours on XCX and have only got to the Epilogue content.

>>40975 It seems like most normies and E-celebs will be playing Oblivion Remastered over the weekend, not to mention Doom and Nightreign coming next month.

>E-celebs faggots got early access to the game and are streaming it Ok, time to get off the internet till i beat the game. I hate streamers so much its unreal.

>>40979 Does that include NG+ or is NG+ just simple differences?

Is 9€ for the deluxe edition worth it? It just seems to be two costume packs for the party members and then two unique costumes for Gustaf and Maelle? So just a bunch of costumes? I lean towards no. But at the same time my completionist autism flares up since the idea of my game being forever incomplete bothers me. The costumes aren't sold separately are they? So it's now or never?

I wonder how hard it will be. Must be pretty easy considering how some of the journos are saying they beat the game on expert including the superbosses. I hope the NG+ versions of them are a lot harder at least.

>>40983 I’m sure they’ll sell the pack separately

>>40983 Just creamapi it brother.

>>40983 Oh wait it's just costumes? Shit, already bought it. Next time I need to actually read what's included.

>>40987 Better to support the devs anyways.

>>40988 For some reason I thought it came with the OST. I got it discounted anyway due to my good goy discounts on Humble Bundle.

>>40905 >Roguelites were not really a thing yet, and definitely not a roguelite RPG. >Did they exist? Sure, but also not really. Bro. For one. Roguelikes are RPGs by definition. "Action Roguelike" and tons of other silly phrases people throw around, are oxymorons. Secondly. The Mystery Dungeon games, as stated. They existed. And had existed for a decade already. Not only that. The Mystery Dungeon games began as a Dragon Quest spinoff. It was not some obscure little unknown thing. And the Shiren games were made soon after the first Mystery Dungeon game and then they even made the Final Fantasy spinoffs with the Chocobo games. We're talking about yearly releases and they sold well too. These games were well known. Were famous. And had both primary and tertiary fanbases. That Dragon Quarter was directly inspired by these games was never a secret. That makes Dragon Quarter a derivative game of a very well known game series of an already established and distinct game genre. Also. The Mystery Dungeon games were not the only roguelikes on the market and not the only influence. But we don't even need to get into the weeds like that, because all we need to do is look at the Mystery Dungeon games. Lastly. I won't undersell Dragon Quarter. Dragon Quarter does introduce novel ideas, but they're novel ideas in what is largely a very derivative game. What Dragon Quarter does is cool, but introducing a couple of ideas that are largely fresh to the genre, and then turning and twisting some knobs, doesn't prevent your game from being largely derivative when you're following a specific and famous game series closely and in an already established genre. At that point you might as well call games like Hollow Knight or Another Crab's Treasure, novel. And that comparison might not even be fair. I'd be inclined to argue that Another Crab's Treasure is a lot more novel than Dragon Quarter, even if Another Crab's Treasure is very obviously derivative. Also I'll repeat. This is not a slight against any of these games. I'm a huge Hollow Knight simp, and it's the least novel game and most derivative of all of these. Dragon Quarter is a rad game, but it's not a particularly novel game.

Watched some streams. Combat is all style no substance like atlus games.

Just got my lumiere edition, but I don’t want to open it after seeing them priced at $200+

>>40990 >Dragon Quarter is a rad game, but it's not a particularly novel game. The difference is that the novelty and innovation in Dragon Quarter was actually a very mighty attempt to move the JRPG genre forward in a meaningful way, distancing itself from the garbage that inevitably makes all RPGs stale. With a few more iterations, the DQ formula (Dragon Quarter-like?) would have probably propelled the genre into a new paradigm instead of merely setting/following trends. What DQ did was not fashionable in 2002 and arguably is still far from fashionable now (merely more palatable). Shallow Knight and Another Crab's Treasure's ONLY claim to fame is doing what was already fashionable at the time of their release.

>>40990 If Dragon Quarter had not been "novel", then it would not be as wrongfully hated as it is. And obviously I was comparing the popularity of roguelikes/lites back then (practically non existant) to the popularity of roguelike/lites now (quite prevalent and nearly every other indie title). Someone who did not play Dragon Quarter back then cannot truly grasp the aspects of it that people disliked (ignoring that it "wasn't BoF") because those aspects are now ubiquitous within the gaming sphere when they were not back then.

>>40995 It fits Lune's stain theme.

>>40995 cute

>>40967 From the footage I've seen the timed hits and defense are closer to a souls game than an ATB jrpg. It's actually balanced around your ability to dodge a majority of the incoming damage. As you can see here, regardless of tactical choices the enemies will put the player into dodge-or-die situations. Dodging seems capable of fully reducing damage to 0, so if you master it you can just ignore strategy and mash basic attack to win. https://youtu.be/vbVb_eEjx4Y?t=884

>>40998 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvVb_eEjx4Y Resending this because unavailable

>>40995 no fucking way that is true kek.

>>40998 The Mortismal review (the only one I listened to) says that regardless of difficulty, bosses seem to one shot players if you cannot dodge/parry their attacks.

>>40817 >new Western ip that is actually a mix of non standard gameplay mechanics rather than over the shoulder bamhamsoulscharted AAAslop >atypical setting/aesthetic that takes itself seriously, no Whedonistic dialogue even though the devs are clearly capable of taking the piss with the French trailer I dunno I just like videogames

it's already been widely noted that Gustave is a copy of Pattinson. Nobody has seemed to point out Lune is a copy of a Kpop idol. didn't Naughty Dog get in trouble from Ellen Paige for something like this?

>>41001 If this is true, then it's just another case of prescriptive gameplay LARPing as innovation. Which is not a surprise since as I maintain throughout this thread, timed hits and timed defense are fake gameplay. It'll placate the unwashed masses of people who aren't actually interested in playing RPGs, and that's it.

>>40994 >>40993 >What DQ did was not fashionable in 2002 But the Mystery Dungeon games were fashionable. >And obviously I was comparing the popularity of roguelikes/lites back then (practically non existant But the Mystery Dungeon games weren't practically non existent. They were famous and popular. And I'll repeat. The Mystery Dungeon games weren't even the only roguelikes. Yeah. People who went from playing Breath of Fire and Final Fantasy or whatever, to playing Dragon Quarter. Would have no doubt felt whiplash. But that's only if they hadn't been playing roguelikes or Mystery Dungeon games before. If you went from playing the Mystery Dungeon games, or I don't know, Azure Dreams or whatever else, to playing Dragon Quarter. You would not have felt that whiplash. Granted that these games never had as much success in the west as in Japan, but that doesn't make Dragon Quarter any more novel. It remains derivative.

>>41003 Pattinson as in Robert Pattinson? I don't see it.

>>41004 >If this is true, then it's just another case of prescriptive gameplay LARPing as innovation. He did say that because of this and because he couldn't discern any actual real differences between any of the difficulties that he thinks this might get a patch in the future and he reiterated that he was on a pre-release review patch of the game. >Which is not a surprise since as I maintain throughout this thread, timed hits and timed defense are fake gameplay. I think he did say that one of the difficulties or settings allows you to auto-complete your team's attack QTEs, but that there are no settings that allow you to auto-complete the defense QTEs, which are the ones that kill you. I'm don't mind QTE slop in theory, but it has to do it without getting too repetitive, which I fear it might become.

I'm not preordering the game just in case it's somehow an unplayable mess on launch and there doesn't appear to be any pre-order bonuses, but I'll probably buy it day one. Is anyone here grabbing the deluxe edition? It seems to only have a couple of costumes but I couldn't even find an image of said costumes.

>>41005 If you're having trouble understanding the difference between the incredibly niche nature of roguelikes back then compared to the ubiquity not only of roguelikes but also of generally "roguelite" mechanics today, then we are at an impasse. I will reiterate that if Dragon Quarter had not been "novel", then it would not have been so wrongfully hated.

>>41001 >mortismal dude thought veilguard was great

>>41003 That’s kind of a stretch man. They all look the same, and she doesn’t look like any of them. Not even Korean

>>41011 it's not a stretch is at all. they most definitely modeled lune after her.

Gustave raises so many death flags it's absurd

>>41010 I wouldn't know. I was never interested in Veilguard, I just opted for his review because the 100% gimmick.

>>41013 i'm fairly certain he will not die. & if he does it'll be in the ending for emotional impact, - if there's a sequel maelle will take over, makes sense agewise too.

I genuinely have no idea why someone would choose to spend $70 on Oblivion remake the same week this comes out for $45. People are weird.

Imagine letting an anon shilling Dragon Quarter affect your purchasing/playing decisions.

>>41016 >I genuinely have no idea why someone would choose to spend $70 on Oblivion remake the same week this comes out for $45. People are weird. Todd said back in 2015 that if he could release a game at the same time it was announced, he would after he announced Fo4 a few months before it released. I think that's how things should be so I rewarded that. I know I'm going to really enjoy both games. Also this is the first time I've bought vidya since the start of lockdown in 2020.

>>41003 >>41006 Gustave does look like a mix of Robert Pattinson and Charlie Cox (the voice actor).

>>41017 Better Dragon Quarter than Dragon $45.

>>41019 how in the fuck did these literally whos manage to get Charlie Cox and Andy Serkis

>>41009 >the incredibly niche nature of roguelikes back then But they're not incredibly niche. That's my fucking point. The problem with Dragon Quarter (in the west) is that the Breath of Fire fans weren't Mystery Dungeon or roguelike fans. In Japan the game actually reviewed and sold well. Critically it even received higher Famitsu scores than its predecessors. But it doesn't even really matter. By the end of the day the devs full well knew that they were deliberately and closely adapting/following the Mystery Dungeon games and other roguelike games. And fans of these games also knew that Dragon Quarter was a roguelike game directly inspired by them. That makes the game derivative, even if this audience was smaller than the audience for the previously established Breath of Fire games. The reason Dragon Quarter was hated wasn't because it was novel, it was because it was different(from its predecessors). Different might equal novel but novel != different. World of Warcraft was different different from Warcraft3 and hated by its fans who were fans of RTS games. But you'd be a total loony to call World of Warcraft novel. MMORPGs were not novel. And the thing WoW was most famous for was closely adapting ideas from lots of already established MMORPGs, and mostly stood out by having the already established ideas in one and the same game. And while WoW might have been a huge historical mega hit unlike Dragon Quarter, the already established Warcraft fans still largely hated the game. There is nothing surprising about prior fans being upset and even discontent if a series take a stark turn or even ditching the established genre for a completely new one. No matter if the new game is more or less successful than the previously established games. And none of it has anything to do with whether or not the new game was novel. That's a separate thing. Dragon Quarter is a cool game. It was extremely different compared to the previously established Breath of Fire games, but it wasn't that different at all when compared to other games of its own genre, including largely trending brands like the Mystery Dungeon games. And fans of these games largely had favourable even more strongly positive opinions of Dragon Quarter.

>>41021 While it is a mystery, his entire mainstream career is just the result of capeshit, right? He'll always be Owen from Boardwalk Empire to me.

only way this game got a 9 from ign is that it has a tranny or gay in it

What language will you guys be using? I usually stick with the language native to the developers, but if it defaults to English because that was there intention then I'll probably stick with that.

>>41025 English because it defaults to English and they intentionally paid "major actors" to act in their English by default game, Anon...

>>41022 >But they're not incredibly niche. Not anymore, that's correct, and that's *my* point. >>41025 I'm not sure. I really like Maelle in French, but I think I prefer the others in English, so it's probably going to be English for me. Lune is the only one where I don't really like her English or French voice.

>>40991 >Watched Shut the fuck up

please sell well please sell well please sell well please sell well

Any game getting this much mainstream attention+ top reviews makes me highly suspicious. >You can parry and dodge when its the enemy's turn! Yes other japanese rpg's did this, why are journos and sheep alike treating it like its some fresh new thing? >Items restore at save points That's just casualization, why save up stuff or be careful with supplies when you can go nuts. Not very convinced on this one. I'm sure there's something they're hiding from us.

>>41029 sorry pal, looks like these devs are getting banished to oblivion

>>41030 >why are journos and sheep alike treating it like its some fresh new thing? Because you're witnessing Sea of Stars 2.0. Another fake indie game being artificially propped up as something it isn't while wearing the indie badge so it can still LARP as some sort of underdog. The truth is that plenty of fun RPGs come out all the time that are actually independent/hobbyist releases that you've never heard of, because they are REAL indies that don't have the resources to make sure you know they're out trying to Disrupt The Industry™.

>>41030 every reviewer I've seen praises the writing and narrative first and foremost and say the combat just does it's job.

>>40941 >microsoft store says it's 40GB, miracle compression or this game is like 10h long? Retard >Metaphor Refantazio >Total size on disk is 84.95 GiB and total download size is 38.69 GiB.

>>41030 yes but Metaphor looks like shit

>>41032 You can look at the minimum specs instead of speculating on how big it is from the download size of a different game. 55gb is plenty.

okay so I'm not the only one that's having posts respond to the wrong person

>>41032 >Sea of Stars 2.0. Another fake indie game being artificially propped up as something it isn't while wearing the indie badge so it can still LARP as some sort of underdog. Quick rundown?

>>41030 >That's just casualization Yes and no. It's more like alleviating Elixir Syndrome. Potions are normally super cheap, so you could buy 99 of them as soon as you are able and never experience any hardships whatsoever. Not that JRPGs are ever difficult, but having a set amount of them like Estus could make the game more difficult than being able to just buy 99 potions in the 2nd town. >>41038 I don't know what he's talking about but I'd think that BG3 and Larian are more appropriate comparisons with regards to "fake indie game being artificially propped up", because there was some underdog narrative going around when really Larian had already won GotY for Divinity 2 which is basically the same game as BG3

>>41039 >Divinity 2 which is basically the same game as BG3 nuh uh >>41032 I haven't seen it marketed as an indie game at all. It's marketed as a small, new studio made of people doing a passion project and I think that's pretty fair given all the information so far.

>>41029 its fate was sealed with oblivion shadowdropping you would literally have to hold a gun to a normalfags head to get them to give a shit about this game now

>>40656 Personally I'd go with greenmangaming instead. Same price and doesn't have a history of being a grey market dealer.

>>41041 Well, things might change with the high metascore + game awards nomination or winning awards in the mid/long term.

>>40699 >Some of the standard battles do get very sam-ey once you know how to deal with the enemy attacks Stop reading, don't treat me like I haven't -played a JRPG before

>>41042 It was only 30 buckaroos on CDKeys a few days ago

>>40942 not blood-related

I don't know... I've already done the pre-installation. I don't know if this is going to go to shit, like accusations of cultural appropriation that only the Japanese can make this kind of game... From what I've seen it looks like a copy of the personas, the combat menus lol. And since this game is French, I don't even want to imagine the amount of wokism it's going to have... Let's see. You can play at 8 am GMT.

>>41047 Its actual Frogs this time and not >French Canadians so I think the woke stuff gets dialed down. The female character models not being completely atrocious manjaws is already a step in the right direction. If they can stick the landing with the writing, that would be great though.

>>41047 >And since this game is French, I don't even want to imagine the amount of wokism it's going to have Are you retarded?

one of the few negative reviess

>can't play the game until 9am france time Once again I'm reminded of how much I hate frogs.

>>41050 >pc gamer hates it Must be great then

>>40797 To be fair the guy has changed a lot since denouncing Twilight

>>41051 let's pass the time by enjoying some topical french media

>>41050 how is 7/10 negative?

>>41050 PCGamer gave Ass Creed Shadows and Veilguard a higher score than FF7 Rebirth so they can eat my ass lol

>>41054 >let's pass the time by enjoying some topical french media No. And fuck the metric system.

>>41056 While I take your point, I wish you had picked a better game than Rebirth to make it. Not that I'm saying Rebirth isn't better than both combined.

>>41056 That shit was fucking crazy. PC Gamer's taste have become so bad it leaves me awestruck.

>>41057 >We must count everything in foot sizes and sticks because...just because, okay?! IGNORE THE PERFECTLY GOOD STANDARDISED SYSTEM lmao do murricans really

>>41058 Whatever ones opinions on Rebirth's story it objectively has great combat and tons of content that you can tell the devs cared about. AC and Veilguard both have such low effort gameplay its almost impressive.

>>41061 Again, no argument here. It certainly has a far superior art direction even if it's attached to a Kingdom Hearts-lite incomprehensible schizo story about Sephiroth and Aerith becoming the lords of the Time Janny hiveminds. Why does Cloud even fucking matter anymore? I mean in combat, not because of Sephiroth's weird mancrush on him.

>>40797 >Your items simply replenish at the next save point What the fuck is the point of items if they just act like magic

>>41063 Just think of them as solid spells, bro

>>41054 Season 2 of this show is way more straight up porn than Season 1 was. I like that they gave the sexcat hairy pits and made her be naked most of the time like the rest of the male cast, but why did they decide to change it from like a sex education show into like furry Gurren Lagan/DBZ?

>>41049 No. But both France and Quebec are the capitals of woke culture.

>>41054 Man what the fuck did I even watch? I thought the Japanese were weird.

>>41063 I assume it acts like refillable flasks in ER or stellar blade

Why is this game is so cheap on PS Store? 49,99€ 44,99€(with plus).

>>41069 Because it's a $50 game and they're doing a 10% discount for preordering. The discount is on Steam too.

Why do people here still look at review scores? Most of those fags are just rushing through a game they don't give a shit about and don't even finish either. Nothing of value is there you can't get better from judging a longplay.

>>41071 I don't care about review scores generally but when I see a place like PC Gamer or Kotaku give a bad score to something some of the better youtubers are praising I take that as a sign the game is probably pretty good.

>>40962 >some of my favorite games are long as fuck and end up feeling like a full fledged adventure/journey because of it Yes, for me it is Grandia 1 and both Lunar games. Game Arts really did magic back then. Never have i felt this sense of adventure quite like it ever since.

Watched the prologue a bit and was taken aback when they depicted me a cute White girl named Catherine from the expedition who was dating a nigger named Lucien. Woke status? Confirmed in the first 10mins of the game. Very concerned about the rest, and the fact that journos loves it is not a good sign, actually.

>>41003 Lune’s voice actress is a half Japanese hapa. Pretty sure she’s meant to be a hapa instead of Korean or a kpop idol. Not seeing the kpop “look” at all. Lune is older, not bogged, not ghostly white, etc.

>>41074 >(1)

>>41075 she's modeled after that girl in particular, xiaoting, not some concept of a kpop idol. the resemblance is not random.

>>41077 Do you have anything backing that up, like a developer interview or something? They look nothing alike.

>>41054 what the fuck am I watching

>lune is a barefoot sorceress who uses her feet to point her spells He won.

>>41078 it's freaking obvious. i guess i'm good at distinguishing faces

>>41081 >it's freaking obvious. I don't really think it's that "obvious" and I would also like a source for this. The Kpop has the typical Kpop shaved jawline whereas Lune does not. Among numerous other differing features.

>>41081 I have another theory. You're just a deluded kpop fan.

Two hours till' we find out if this game is shit or kino

>>40622 With JRPG style line dancing combat, does turn-based even matter? They might as well just go real time at that point.

>>41081 I’m sorry but it’s true. There’s no resemblance besides slightly Asiatic woman

Got the CDkeys! Predownloading

Excited for the game but couldn't care less about the reviews good or bad

>>41084 Based on some gameplay channel, it really does look like French Final Fantasy at least

>parryslop So somehow now this is fine. Double standards shills.

>>41028 Oh right you need to play it to judge it. lmao get out

>>41090 Ackshually you can dodge and guard too, so it's not the same.

>>41066 Paris is not France.

>>41084 The game won't be bad, it'll be mediocre at worst. The real deal breaker is the story.

Pretty tough to anticipate attacks because they’re so elaborate. Lovely intro though. Music is a huge plus

>>40633 >fr*nch >romance The women will regale you with tales of their BBC experiences

>>41096 That one video of a French teen getting chucked out of a window by her black bf when his mother came into the room still haunts me. Not because it sounded and looked like he broke her arm on the landing, but because she got into that situation to begin with.

>>41095 Kek, it really do be like that. The enemies would be easier if they didn't have such elaborate over the top designs and moves. Like imagine a normal goblin jumping at you with a knife instead of some abstract stone and root-covered thing doing a ballerina twist and jump.

>>41089 >>41094 We'll see in a few minutes :D

its up

>>41098 This chromatic lancelier is kicking my ass

Goodbye thread I'll see you guys in a few weeks.

it's over

>>41103 I only launched the game to check out the settings and the main menu with that song has more personality than some other entire games. I hope this game does well even if it ends up being bad

>>41103 gamepass game

>>41102 Same, just gonna play it and evaluate it before random spoilers hit the thread >>41105 yea im trying it on game pass as well

>>41103 its ~3am in na and ~9am in eu

>>41103 oh nonono... the french lost again

>>41103 Well done Microsoft.

>>41101 Fucking finally, that shit took like 12 tries. Excellent game so far. I don’t want to go to bed

The music of the intro is pure eargasm. Also, 8gb bros I don't feel so good...

is there anti aliasing being applied on top of DLAA or is UE5's DLAA implementation just absolute dogshit?

>>41111 Sometimes I wonder where all the kino vidya music actually come from when it's not an established name like Akira Yamaoka, like do regular orchestras take commissions or do some people just found gaming studios and start looking to hire talented musicians who really want their work to be put into a game for some reason?

Read the fucking catalog before posting a dupe thread, you humongous cuckchanner faggot.

>>41112 nvm its because the game isn't using DLSS 4 i think

The freemason symbolism, I can't stop noticing... >>41113 If you have the money, you can hire anyone. The biggest part about vidya music is that it cant be royalty based, so the studio doesn't have to pay a bazillion dollars to the artist.

>>41113 apparently they just grabbed their composer from some random video game forum https://www.expedition33.com/post/composing-the-music

>>41080 >lune is a barefoot sorceress who uses her feet to point her spells Fucking sold.

>>41112 >>41115 for some reason DLSS quality looks way clearer than DLAA idk whats going on

>>41117 >On the internet, literally nobody knows that you have insane talent that AAAtards have completely overlooked for some reason

gamma should be ~0.85 by default it looks way better

>>41120 one would think they'd start looking for and hiring random bizarrely talented internet joes, in light of Toby Fox's existence