>>64055 At no point did I say anything anti-white, nor did I say anything anti-male that I can recall. Please troll me harder daddy. It'll help me make cummies tonight.

>>64056 No, you did say those things. Even if not verbally, it was internalized white genocide. Am I speaking on your level yet?

>>64057 No. Here is the thing. You have created a strawman, then projected that strawman onto me. You seem to think this makes you clever. It really doesn't. Here is sort of your moment of zen before I have to go do things that aren't a waste of fucking time: You claim to be the good guy, yet you want to spread hatred and violence. Historically speaking, hatred and violence are hallmarks of bad people - in fact, you seem to abhor it yourself, based on the reasons you provide for hating communists, women, and blacks. You will, of course, argue that it's a different "brand" of violence and hatred, in some fashion, not realizing it's just hatred and violence that's the problem, and being hateful and violent does not, in fact, get the world any closer to where you seem to want it. In other words, you're counterproductive to your own internal desires. That doesn't mean you have to love any of these things you claim to hate and abhor and blame and whatever, but it does mean you should think of a different approach because you're not going to make headway like this.

>>64059 Whoah woah woah! Here comes out the fallacies! Not beating the reddit communist allegations. You are doing everything you claim that I do, except gayer. That is why I am insulting you. The difference is I'm fucking with you, and you probably think you are justified lmao. Hatred and Violence is all the groups I speak ill of promote and actually physically do. Your solution? Just ignore it and be tolerant? That is how lost Christians their entire strangehold on power in America. Being tolerant lost me all the communities I was apart of. No more Mr. Nice Goy.

>>64060 > lol I was just joking pal > I was just... > ... it was just a prank bro come on I'm not... > ... I'm not hurting, you're hurting My dude, the difference between you and me is that when I walk away here in about three minutes, I will go to be loved by friends, family, and lovers... and you will still be miserable and feel trapped. Maybe I'm just lucky. I'unno. But certainly if there's anything I'm doing right, maybe you should actually talk to me instead of constantly saying I'm something I'm not and deciding to stay miserable. But whatever. Die mad. It will not affect me in the slightest.

>>64061 Again, all you've done in this thread is insinuate I'm something I'm not. And pretend you are high and mighty because your brand of doing the same thing is different. Sounds like some "point" you were tying to make earlier. Nice flex, I'm proud of you for being popNice personut of a womb and not having a family that threw you in a gutter. Reminder, you are a degenerate who faps to fictional cannibalism.

>>64065 lmao, "popped" "out" got censored because of the thread owner trying to stop people insulting Nice persons. My entire purpose here is to shitpost, vent, and make fun of ingrates who still have not bought my comic to leak it. It's been nearly two years and people still have been throwing shit and mud rather than leaking my paywalled art. I stay winning, and I'm eating grandma's delicious cornbread tomorrow. Oh yeah, wow, who knew people had family and did normal things. wooooooo. Doesn't distract from the fact of how very wrong and bad you are.

Here from the overboard to say: Sweet, finally a /pol/ that's active. >>64015 If you want a small whitepill, now that wokeism has publicly turned against Israel, it's against zionist interest to keep the machine going. No doubt they'll turn to another golem to serve their interests, though. >>64059 Funny, >>64037 is full of strawmen. Are you sure you're not projecting the projection?

>>64069 lmao. I was about to post. > You might need to go read up on this definition. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/project Yeah thanks homie. It's very disingenuous to come onto a chan board and earnestly post flaming liberal ideologies to a political discussion. Do you like vore? Fellow goy

>>64070 >> You might need to go read up on this definition. Who are you quoting? >Do you like vore? No, it's not really my thing.

>>64071 quoting what i was going to post. Doesn't make sense then. I assumed not. I've drawn, and am continuing to work on the largest and best vore comic.. Only board on here other this this i check out is argentina sometimes lmao.

>>64011 >I never herd anyone say tht the Nazis were the only bad regime Bad, yes. Worse than the every other Socialist country that has ever existed, HELL NO!!! Germany was tame compared to West Taiwan and anything the USSR (And their proxies) pulled (Look up the Pitesti prison experiments in Romania or how the Hungarian Socialist government was stealing children from their parents to groom them as prostitutes (Sound familiar?), and tell me that Germany was "worse" with a straight face). But you dare to express any sympathies towards the damn Germans, and you're immediately deemed an "evil person" worth hating and have zero path towards redemption. And that's what I keep coming back to. >We are "all" suppose to be "loving and caring" towards "everyone", but it's only ONE SIDE who has to "calm down" and be "tolerant" meanwhile the other side can do literally whatever and get away with it. And there's a term for this activity too. Coined by Herbert Marcuse in the 1965, it's known as "repressive tolerance". And I'm sick and tired of this shit. I'm not asking for revenge, I'm not even asking for fucking "fairness", I'm just want people to be honest and genuine for once instead of constantly patronizing people with phrases and sentiments that "sound good" but are hollow in their delivery. >Stalin is responsible for more deaths then hitler was, doesn't make Hitler less of a monster though Yes, it does. Yet no one is deemed as "beyond saving" for having sympathies towards Stalin, especially after Khrushchev's sanitized denunciation of him. >And yes, the soap thing... DON'T FUCKING CARE and you're missing the damn point. This discussion is NOT about the Holohoax. >>64012 > I have every reason to believe psychology is a fake branch of science. For the past century, it really has been. The ONLY psychologist I've read about who wasn't full of shit was Henry Link. >Was this morally justified? The problem I have with such grand-sweeping declarations is that it makes the argument a zero-sum game in that there's only "one" solution and nothing else. And I disagree with that one a fundamental level. There are multiple paths towards creating a functioning and stable country, so the question is what do you want as a society? For example, Japan has some of the lowest crime rates in the modern world, but I would not be thrilled living there due to their lack of privacy laws, illegality of gun ownership, and Liberal justice system. This isn't saying that I find America's laws perfect. We have enough of our own problems, but I prefer living under our system with the protections and abilities we have than I would under the Japanese. It should be said that the BIGGEST problem I have with the American system is not that we have too many laws or even that some of the laws are too lax (By design), it's that you have people that refuse to enforce the laws that exist. And that they refuse to enforce them on purpose. >And now all of these athiests liberal faggots I surrounded myself by, who I've heard absolutely a dozen times saying "I don't like christians because they were controlling!" Funny thing is that almost NEVER happened. It was always the baizuo, the "Political Left", who were the ones enforcing things like censorship demands. Need look no further than the 1992 vidya senate hearings, or Tipper Gore leading the crusade against music in the 80's. >>64015 >I sincerely believe that these problems started long before I was born. A lot of them did. Majority of the "biggest" issues that exist in today's world started as far back as the 1700's, from the Malthusians believing that we're "running out of resources", to the French Revolution that wanting to remake man down to his very soul. >And that they're going to get much worse rather than better. It probably will. First of all because the two biggest economies in the world (U.S. and West Taiwan) are playing chicken to see who's fiat currency and economy tumbles first. And second because of how they elites will be doing everything to make sure that Agenda 2030 happens on schedule. >All because stupid white people would rather cuck over their entire country. You do remember that we had an election last month, and that the most hated man on the planet won it, right? And European countries are currently suffering massive riots, if the government isn't already collapsing, because of their citizens having enough of this shit. >There is nothing wrong with white nationalism. Actually there is: Who is "white"? I mean this legitimately because that was the biggest source of bloodshed in Europe for the previous three millennia. And my own heritage is from the one European countries who was treated by half the continent as a nation full of wiggers, meanwhile the other half wanted to wipe the country from existence because of their fear of Catholics. >Slavery was a good thing >slavery was a terrible thing It's neither. This isn't the discussion for it, but the only problem with slavery is when it's forced upon people, and (Even then) when it gives them zero chance for escape. And it can be argued that the American slave trade was a universal and historically bad idea because it created a "permanent underclass" of people from which there will always be a historical divide (Despite the circumstance that original created that divide no longer existing, and it all being a cultural problem now). In fact, Congress prevented a similar problem that was happening with the Chinese during the late 1800's when they hauled in Charles Crocker and demanded that he explain his reasons for importing the Chinese and undercutting domestic wages. >>64051 >Communist won WW2 Which country was giving loans to the Soviet Union? And also provided them with all of their machinery? >>64059 >and being hateful and violent does not, in fact, get the world any closer to where you seem to want it. It does when the violence is a reluctant and the hate is only to motivate, not the goal. I believe the phrase is that if you're looking for bloodshed, don't be surprised if you find it. Contrast the American Revolution (Where the Continental Congress were doing everything possible to be reasonable with England as they just wanted to be represented in Parliament, nothing more) to the French Revolution (Where they made an issue about the tax system into a reason for why they needed to remake the entire country, including it's culture and history) and you see the difference between reluctant violence and a search for violence. That being said, I do not see anything "reluctant" about the threats of violence we see coming from the rhetoric of either side (Yes, the Woke Right is a real thing, not just a psy-op). Just constant, "Give me what I want, or I'll burn everything to the ground". >>64060 >Just ignore it and be tolerant? That is how lost Christians their entire strangehold on power in America. Artca, Christianity never actually had a "stranglehold" over America as America was not a Christian nation, not in it's founding nor in it's establishment. Many of the ideals and beliefs are rooted in the Bible, but just as many beliefs and ideals come from Grecian philosophy and English Fundamentalism. In addition to that, only a third of the actual 134 Founding Fathers were practicing Christians, the rest were some flavor of Agnostic or Deist. This is not saying that they denied the importance and benefits of religion, often times writing in support of practicing them, but the issue that they were concerned with at the time was just that they wanted to be left alone to be able to live their own lives. That was it.

Has artca simply tried to not talk about politics in everyday conversation? And then if someone tries to bring up politics as a conversation topic (which is strange regardless) just simply say “Sorry, I don’t feel like talking about politics.” I’ve done that at work before, and usually the other person just stops talking, at least at work. I don’t think he ever tries to have a “So has it rained over there lately” type of normal conversation with every test people before. Just usual small talk. In the same reply in which he says he tries to act normal, he then brings up weird political stuff, like, dude, maybe don’t have that running in your head all day everyday. Talk about a movie you’re wanting to see/a movie or show you’ve seen recently. Or sports, if you’re into that.

Does Artca9 hate the Indiana Jones movies? Especially the best ones, being “Raiders of the Lost Ark” and “Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade”. It’s a common opinion, but I like Raiders of the Lost Ark and Last Crusade the best. They’re sort of the epitome of Indiana Jones. I like Indiana Jones, it’s pretty cool. Temple of Doom is okay, and, despite having some really iconic Indy moments in it, like the entire opening sequence, the mine cart scenes, and the bridge scenes at the end, the middle of the movie feels a little “off”, in a sense. Even Spielberg and Lucas say it’s the weakest of the three original films. And, strangely, if taken as a whole, and as controversial as it sounds, I feel like Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has a more overall “Indiana Jones” feel to it than of you were to take Temple of Doom as a whole. It feels more like a globe-trotting adventure with a little bit of a mystery to solve, and is a little more “lighthearted” at times, like the other two fan-favorite Indy movies, and isn’t afraid to be a little silly at times. In Temple of Doom, it almost feels like it doesn’t have much of an identity, like, if it was made afterwards, it would feel like it was more of a spin-off movie rather than part of the mainline series (and, weirdly, it’s actually a prequel to the first one, despite being a sequel). And in Temple of Doom, besides the opening sequence, they’re pretty much stuck in one place the entire time. Also, fun fact, despite being playing Indy’s father in Last Crusade, Sean Connery was only about 10 years idler than him, if I remember right. And for the rats scene in Last Crusade, they had to specially breed well over 100 rats, to be sure they didn’t have diseases, and Harrison Ford would sometimes play with them when not recording. And in the first movie, when they’re in that pit with the snakes (which were real snakes, though, some of them were glass lizards, a type of legless lizard) the snakes would actually slither closer to the fire, rather than be scared off by it, since they’re cold-blooded and wanted the warmth, so they had some difficulties with that scene. And also in the first movie, almost all of the actors and crew got sick at one point, except for Steven Spielberg, who had brought a ton of canned foods with him, and ate on that while filming on location. There’s also a scene that was cut where, during filming, John Rhys-Davies actually pooped his pans, while in full costume, when he was supposed to be bending over or kneeling down (if I remember right). He would sometimes joke about it in behind-the-scenes footage. That’s an example of a non-political conversion someone can have with someone else, about a movie series, for example. I actually specifically searched for the early/mid-2000s DVD copies of the three original movies, since they have a nice amount of behind-the-scenes footage and interviews as bonus features. Unfortunately, from what I’ve seen, the more recent blu-ray re-releases got rid of most of the bonus stuff. And speaking of Harrison Ford movies, they’re not it as well known as how other movies, but “Witness” and “The Fugitive” are both fantastic movies. They both made me tear up when watching them. I want them on DVD too, but I do a lot of my DVD shopping at Good Will, at least when looking for older releases. I watched The Fugitive one of the times it was free on Tubi, since I was on a bit of a Harrison Ford movie binge at that point, in lead up to Dial of Destiny, which I watched in theaters.

>>64012 Bruh, the argument is over with these retards. You will never convince a leftist he is wrong. The nature/nurture debate being an example, they can be BTFO'd on genes being a cause on most things, but they shut down the argument every time with emotional moral fagging, deplatforming, firing people they disagree with, and slander. I would just not even bother with them, they will just quote Vaush back at you or something. Again, low haning fruit.

>>64012 Sounds like you just want yourself to be bitter constantly, because that’s easier for you than just being. Or that you’ve made yourself think that’s your only available option, because you willingly surround yourself with self-sabotaging sourness. You say you try to make communities, among other things, but then you also go on to say you use your politics as a “litmus test” for people you talk to. It makes it sound like you try to insert your politics into almost every facet of your life. And that you’ll judge people by their covers, rather than their contents, their true contents. It’s starting to sound like you know what would make yourself feel not so bitter and angry all the time, but you simply don’t want to try, that you don’t want to give a legitimate effort to not crawl back to your ways because you’re scared. It’s okay to be scared, but you have to grow out of childish fears and hates as well. Or you cannot find peace. But I also know all you’ll do when you reply to this is scoff again or deposit more baseless insults to someone who wishes you to be better. Well, like last time, I’ll show that the world, or the men that inhabit it, or not so scornful, and that there are good people, or at the very least, decent people, and tell you to have a good day or night, or a pleasant tomorrow. Despite you hating me and nearly everyone with every fiber you can flex, simply for being, I do not fully hate you. And I wish for you to know and understand that. I may not like your line of harmful thinking, but I know that is not truly you, and I have a feeling you know that. You feel like you have to be that way because you think it’s the only identity you have, or that, if you changed yourself that it would make you appear weak. I may not be able to help you through this alone, because you’ll hate me no matter what I say, but if you actually read this, I have a feeling, or at least a hopeful idea, that they’ll somewhat stick with you. May a light illuminate, and you find peace, hope, and love in your heart.

>>64088 Correction: you can't convince anybody on the internet that they are wrong.

>>64106 Fair

>>64084 I mean, I really disagree with you on your opinions on nazi Germany, but you at least seem to be interested in having a conversation, which I appreciate, though I fear this really is not the best place to have a real conversation, since you can't hear the voice and intonation of the other person, like you would on a voce call. I bet that, if we ever met, or spoke, it woud be an interesting conversation, for us both. Here, I do think we are wasting time debating each other, though

i've seen all of this conversation between all of you, but c'mon this ain't presidential debate

>>64087 >That’s an example of a non-political conversion someone can have with someone else, about a movie series, for example. <Using Indiana Jones as an example <When the latest film is woke trash and one of the biggest bombs in film history <As is the video game that came out last week You really don't understand the world that you guys created, do you? >>64106 You can if at least one of the people arguing is open to the possibility that they are wrong, and that's why they enter the discussion and ask questions. But then even that person is shut down for "sealioning" because it's "wrong" to ask questions. >>64108 >though I fear this really is not the best place to have a real conversation, since you can't hear the voice and intonation of the other person Because we're on an anonymous imageboard on the internet. A place that cares more about facts and the argument being made rather than the emotional aspect of the argument and who is making the argument. In some ways, it's actually a better place to have a discussion because you lose nothing by being wrong. You could even assume the person using a name or identifying who they are is lying and trying to use a manpilative tactic in order to gain legitmacy in an argument they are losing.

>>64099 I only do this to boomers and anyone dumb enough to bring up politics first. All these conversations and failed attempts to form relationships were talking about entertainment, art, music, games, rock climbing. 0 Politics. Hard to believe, I'm not lying when I say I genuinely can tell we both enjoy talking to eachother, and thats why it's soul crushing to try and make friends, And this happens in florida too. Hit it off talking with stranger for up to an hour, they aren't busy and stay to talk. But after I exchange numbers, and or other contacts. Radio silence. Far beyond anything in my control. If you are the same anon, you are STILL assuming shit about me; then complaining that I'm doing the same in a much more direct inflammatory way lmao. Filthy faggot redditor communist.

>>64072 >"Largest and best vore comic" WHEEEZE That's some top tier narcissism there. You don't even fap to vore. You don't browse FA or Eka's. You hardly even belong in the community. Frankly, i don't even believe you like vore. It's just business to you. Although i'm not sure if you crave more the money or the attention it gets you.

>>64125 It is the best vore comic. Sorry, That's just the truth dog. Just because you don't like me doesn't mean I'm the best vore artist.

>>64129 You're not tho, frankly speaking some are better than you like modeseven or mianq.

>>64137 >some are better than you like modeseven Have you actually tried reading Concession from the beginning to it's current page? The story is all over the place, but at least it's still much better written than Sister Claire (A non-ero webcomic that hits upon similar notes). When it comes to actually telling a story, I'd say the best vore artists are Natsumemetalsonic, James Howard, Malezor, Starcrossing, and want to say Fidchell but it's been a while since I actually read his stuff.

>>64137 Mode 7 is literally the greatest variety porn artist of all time, I have redrawn his art to get better several times in the past 5 years. But his comics are not vore focused. The only vore artists that I genuinely think are better than me are Faggot and shy guy9. Faggot is a monster at style, quality just like mode 7. And he is a monster at animation alongside a few other titans.. And shy guy 9 has pumNice personut so many different comics that nobody can compete to him in variety on vore comics. But even though I'm slow, I still have made the longest continuous narrative of vore. If I wasn't retarded and didn't do it in full color; I would be 20 chapters into the comic and there would be no contesting that I created the highest quality comic series in vore. Instead, you're going to have to wait 7 years for me to slog through meghan the story and see where it's going as entertainment. Chapter 1-3 are introductory to characters. Chapter 4 - 8 are the first act building up the drama. Chapter 9 - 17 Is the second act, focused almost entirely on Violet's character writing. ( And spoiler: tragedy ) Chapter 18+. Is the climax and satisfying vore/character arc payoffs to each character. As well as more action and higher stakes, New characters. End game. Even if I don't get to finish these later chapters: My comic and storytelling would be miles above the competition. Anyways, more public Post of the comic will continue in January, as well as the current chapter for patrons. Took a break this past month to focus on practicing art speed; and make money to buy new car.

>>64148 holy nigger shit thread admin. What the sigma censorship? > B - IG B - IG. is a monster at style and art quality. And animation. > Shyguy has pumped --- out so many different vore comics. > 7 years for me to slog through mak-ing the story and see where its going.

>>64012 Bro you ain't on the team

>>64149 so fucking horny

>>64113 But thats kind if my point. A good discussion is doe in good faith. You won't change anyones mind if they think you are being disingenuous. If you are debating im good faith, you actually have a chance to get to someone. In an anonymous image board,you can just call them a fag, troll, liberal marxist whatever and shut down any further conversation, which doesn't deconstruct their views at all, it just leads to shit throwing, which is admittedly fun to read, but If I really do want to havea conversation using facts and logic, it needs tobe one in good faith, where both parties listen. That is how, imo, you get to identifying contradictions, lies and biases in our own world view, and why talking with people with opposing view points irl is so valuable. Sometimes you are rigr, sometimes you are wrong, but you won't find out unless the conversation is honest.

>>64264 >In an anonymous image board,you can just call them a fag, troll, liberal marxist whatever and shut down any further conversation No, I would just call you a ignorant-ass retarded nigger gorilla as a greeting to make sure you care more about the discussion than you do about your feelings getting hurt. Or if you say something stupid. Because when it comes to discussions on imageboards, 'NOTHING' is off the table as nothing is sacred. If I wanted to "shut down" a discussion, I would point to the exact text in your post, declare that is the moment I stopped giving a shit about your argument, and tell you to fuck off. >That is how, imo, you get to identifying contradictions, lies and biases in our own world view, and why talking with people with opposing view points irl is so valuable So can we both agree that the guy who pulled up "sealioning" as a reason for flipping out earlier and refusing to discuss further is a jackass worth bullying? It's sort of like the people who make fun how the American court system having lawyers asking absolutely retarded questions, such grilling morticians about how did they "know" that a cadaver was dead, when they have to do that for the establishment of "fact" for the case.

>>64271 I mean, tbh, i don't even really know if insulting an anon is bullying, so sure, I guess? The main problem though is that for it to be sealioning, the requests for evidence need to be in bad faith and trolling, which you cant really know for sure what the case is, since, again, you dont see the persons body language, nor do you hear their intonation. I don't know who you are referring to, if it s me, then I can tell you tat I genuinely enjoy havig my ideas challenged and challenging other deas as a process of self growth, and I for sure didn't want to kill a conversation. If it was a different anon, then I would have to see the message, and I don't plan on scrolling through to find out, since I have better things to do. That being said, in the situation thr someone is trolling, or sealioning, then yes, I am ok with that person getting harassed on an anonymous image board, or bullied, if you will

>>64274 >The main problem though is that for it to be sealioning, the requests for evidence need to be in bad faith and trolling The problem is that how do you "know" the person is asking in bad faith on the fucking internet. We're all anonymous here. Even on social media where people have usernames and avatars, that still doesn't "represent" that person as they could by lying about their identity or LARPing. Or even create another account to "reset" their "identity". Hell, even on boards such as this, there's the non-zero possibility that this entire thread is just the same person talking to himself as there's nothing like IDs or accounts that strictly identify anyone for certain. Even on other boards like /v/ which does have IDs, those can be spoofed easily enough to achieve the same result of someone talking to themself (Either through rotating VPN/Tor proxies or posting on different devices). So the problem very quickly becomes, do you believe so little in your argument that you're going to dismiss anyone who asks questions? Hell, it doesn't have to be sealioning. I have been involved with several discussions where the other party shut down and refused to further it because of "Whataboutisms", which signalled to me that they cannot actualy explain their argument. And what about discussions where "facts" need to be established? I have several conversations IRL where the other party flipNice personut because I would not agree with their original premise, so they tried to "force" me to agree by constantly changing the defintion of the word. The most recent example was someone I was talking to asked if I agreed with Aristotle's argument that "Man is a social animal" and I disagreed every which way that I could, to which his response was to constantly change the defintion of "social" to be "doing literally anything in relation to another thing". Whenever I point out to people that the "fusion" of Capitalism and Socialism is Fascism, the person flips out because that must be "wrong" because "Fascism" is something "totally" different. Words like "Equality" have flipped around to be now being "Racist dogwhistles" because it doesn't account for the "true equality" that is "equity". Not to mention how West Taiwan has the "best democracy" for the same reason that democractically electing Cheetoh-Man is a "threat to 'our' democracy". If you do not dare allow a person to ask you questions in order to establish some common ground and understanding in an argument, there is one person who has a problem and that is you. "Sealioning" and "Whataboutism" is just a deflection used to hide the fragility of your argument. Not to mention your outright dismissal of the possibility that the person honestly just doesn't know. >I don't know who you are referring to This post up here: >>63958

>>64276 Yeah, I would for sure admit that that anon wasn't interested in having a discussion, and just shut down, I do think that that could possibly be sealioning