>>56063 I think that this post is a lot of cope for being a prey slut for cats. An interesting take nonetheless. I think there's several ways to look at it, Psychological Development: Fetishes often develop from associations made during early psychological development. For some individuals, vore may represent a symbolic fusion of control, intimacy, and vulnerability. It could stem from early childhood experiences or fantasies that, over time, become eroticized. Biological and Evolutionary Factors: Humans have a natural curiosity and fear related to being consumed or consuming others, which can be traced back to survival instincts. In some individuals, these primal fears or fascinations might get mixed with sexual feelings, leading to a fetish. Power and Control: Vore fantasies often involve themes of dominance and submission, which are common in various other fetishes. The idea of consuming or being consumed can be seen as the ultimate expression of control or surrender, which may be sexually appealing to some people. Symbolism and Metaphor: Vore might symbolize extreme intimacy or union, representing a desire to be wholly absorbed by or to wholly possess another person. It can also metaphorically reflect a longing for closeness or the complete dissolution of boundaries between self and other. Fantasy and Escapism: Like many fetishes, vore may serve as a form of escapism, allowing people to explore desires and scenarios that are impossible or taboo in reality. The fantastical nature of vore can provide a safe space to engage with extreme or unusual themes. Internet and Community Influence: Online communities and forums dedicated to niche fetishes can amplify interest and provide a sense of belonging for people with these interests. Exposure to and participation in these communities can reinforce and deepen the fetish.

Pretty sure there are lots of overlapping fetishes that kind of morph into vore. Like how there is a bunch of sub-tags for vore like hard, soft, guro, digestion, pred, and prey. For me and those in my age range there were tons of vore things growing up ranging from Jurassic Park to Tom and Jerry scenes where Jerry would have to escape Tom's stomach. I remember first learning about beating off and I had dreams of jerking off into the mouth of a T-Rex. Like my specific fetish is I'm really into bj's, and vore is almost the 'ultimate' bj. Like I would want to sit on a giant girls tongue and cum down her throat. My favorite comics are ones with 'voreception' where a girl getting swallowed gives one last bj while being swallowed. Or minipeople getting drowned in cum in a mouth then swallowed. Which is also why I myself am not into like real hard vore where people get chewed up or shit out.

>>56089 I've been "into" it as long as I can remember. Didn't know it was a fetish until I discovered jacking off though.

I know my vore trigger definitively. When i was a kid i was pretty afraid of things, comparatively way more afraid than most kids would be of the same things. My mother was often stressed and angry because of her toxic family so during pregnancy this probably fucked with my brain. Anyway I was flipping through cartoons around the age of 5 and Spirited Away came on. Of course it was the one scene where Kaonashi ate the hotel staff whole and it scared the shit out of me. I screamed to my grandma cause she was in the room and she turned off the TV. 20 years later I still had a latent feeling of hesitancy to even watch the movie. So yeah. I know part of my fetish is psychologically conditioned. Could also be biological cause my dad watches hentai, and generally my dads side of the family is autistic.

>>56034 >What is the cause of vorarephilia? It just makes my dick hard. What's there to discuss? The honest reality with a lot of fetishes is that you can very easily control them and curtail which ones you do and don't like. After all, no or nor nothing is forcing you to look them up nor seek them out. You're just choosing to do so of your own free will.

Anyone know the earliest documented case?

I wonder if a lot of it stems from "mommy issues". It seems to be linked to the devouring mother archetype. I also think there's an innate desire in people (though latent in most) to reunite with the universal "one" - you can call it God, Source, whatever. Vore can be seen as a pretty clear allegory for this - a surrendering of all that you are (mind, body, and soul) in service of a greater power. This is essentially the right hand path. Preds are the inversion of this (left hand path). It could also be an outlet for a deep and primordial part of our psyche that no longer has one in our sanitised modern society - the longing for the return to the tooth and claw viscerality of nature still lying dormant in domesticated man

>>65687 I'm going to second this, I have a vore fetish that overlaps a lot with my preference for BBWs and MILFs and pregnancy and I think it's got a lot to do with a desire to be dominated or worship a strong, motherly archetype. I personally do not understand people who don't incorporate things like weight gain into the fantasy, as you would think that a woman growing bigger and fatter as she devours more people would be the default but it seems like a lot of people have incredibly shit taste

The origins of vore as a fetish are somewhat difficult to pinpoint with precision, as the concept has evolved over time through various cultural, mythological, and psychological channels. However, we can trace its development through several key historical milestones, both in mythology and modern times. ### 1. Mythological and Cultural Foundations - Ancient Mythology: The idea of devouring or being devoured can be found in many ancient mythologies, though it was often depicted as a symbol of power, dominance, or divine will. For example: - Greek Mythology: The myth of Cronus, who ate his children to prevent them from overthrowing him, involves literal devouring and was tied to the concept of control and the cyclical nature of time. - Norse Mythology: The giant wolf Fenrir was destined to devour Odin during Ragnarok, the end of the world. This theme of consuming or being consumed can be seen in many cultures' creation myths or end-of-the-world stories. - Folklore: Many cultures also have stories of ogres, giants, or other monsters that consume humans, such as the classic tales of *Jack and the Beanstalk* or *Hansel and Gretel*. ### 2. The Psychological and Freudian Aspect - Early 20th Century: Sigmund Freud and other early psychologists began to explore the concept of devouring as a symbolic act in human psychology. In psychoanalysis, certain fantasies or fetishes are often tied to deep-seated feelings of power, dominance, or insecurity. Freud himself often used the concept of "oral fixation" to explain various behaviors, where individuals could derive satisfaction from activities related to the mouth, such as eating or even biting. - Freudian Analysis of Oral Stage: The *oral stage* of Freud’s psychosexual development theory (from birth to around 18 months) is focused on the mouth, and it’s suggested that unresolved issues from this stage can manifest in later behaviors. This may include a fascination with oral activities such as eating or even devouring, which some psychologists might view as related to the modern fetish of vore. ### 3. Rise of Fetish Communities - 1960s–1970s: The concept of vore as a fetish (particularly in the context of devouring or being devoured) likely began to take shape in underground fetish communities. However, the term itself was not yet in widespread use. - 1980s–1990s: With the advent of the internet, niche fetish communities began to flourish online. During this time, people who had interests in vore could connect and share art, stories, and experiences. The internet allowed people to explore and express these fantasies in a way that wasn’t possible in more traditional settings. ### 4. The Emergence of the Term "Vore" - Early 2000s: The term "vore" (short for "vorarephilia") began to be widely used in online communities, particularly in forums, fanfiction websites, and art-sharing platforms. It was around this time that the fetish began to be explicitly named and categorized within the broader spectrum of sexual fetishes. The "vore" community also became more prominent on platforms like DeviantArt, where artists began creating vore-themed artwork, often featuring anthropomorphic characters or fantastical creatures engaging in vore scenarios. - Fan Fiction and Art: Many of the earliest vore stories and artworks were centered around anthropomorphic animals or fantastical creatures. These depictions often focused on the fantasy of one character swallowing another, sometimes in a literal sense (being eaten alive) and sometimes in a more metaphorical or exaggerated sense (such as size difference, where one character is much larger than the other). ### 5. Vore in Popular Media - Late 1990s–2000s: As the internet culture evolved, vore began to gain more recognition, particularly within niche online communities. This period saw the rise of fan art, roleplaying, and fetish videos, many of which featured vore-themed content. - Vore and Furry Fandom: Vore has a strong presence within the furry fandom, a subculture of people who are interested in anthropomorphic animals. Many of the early works of vore were centered around anthropomorphic animals (e.g., foxes, wolves, dragons) consuming or being consumed by other characters. ### 6. Modern Day Vore Culture - 2010s-Present: Vore has become a well-established subculture within online fetish communities, with its own specific vocabulary, art, and even subgenres. There are various forms of vore, including: - Soft Vore: The act of swallowing or being swallowed, usually depicted as safe or non-harmful. - Hard Vore: A more graphic and often violent version of vore, which involves explicit depictions of digestion or injury. - Macro/Micro Vore: Often features extreme size differences between the "predator" and the "prey," with the smaller character being swallowed by the larger one. - Unbirth: A subgenre where one character is consumed in a manner that resembles re-birthing, often linked to themes of rebirth or dominance. ### 7. Vore in Mainstream Awareness - Vore remains largely a niche interest but has been recognized in certain mainstream media, often in the form of parodies or references in cartoons, comics, and adult content. While not widely accepted or understood in the mainstream, the concept continues to have a dedicated fanbase. ### Conclusion The concept of vore as a fetish has roots in ancient mythology, psychological theories, and early fetish communities. It evolved into a more recognizable subculture with the advent of the internet, where it was named and categorized. Today, it remains a niche but persistent part of online fetish culture, often expressed through art, stories, and roleplay.

>>65691 Someone give me a tl;dr version of this wall of text

>>65692 GPTslop

>>56046 It's important to remember that human consciousness is not a carefully constructed mechanism, but rather something that formed as a byproduct of the evolutionary need to adapt. I'm sure many people know about the cognitive trade-off hypothesis, but in case you don't, the TLDR is that whatever common ancestors we had with chimps and other apes used to have crazy good short-term memories, but around the time when our ancestors became bipedal and thus stopped hanging out in trees, they had to adapt to being more vulnerable to various predators and dangers on the ground. As a result, humans as a species adapted by developing more intricate methods of communication, which gives us arguably the greatest advantage over other apes because that let us pass on information in the form of cultural knowledge rather than just parent-to child education thanks to us developing the ability to better understand abstractions and hypotheticals. Essentially, most of human consciousness is just a side effect of this adaptations, since we are now able to not only think complex thoughts, but to thinks thoughts about those thoughts. Since this is pretty much the result of natural selection throwing shit against the wall for a few million years and seeing what sticks, it's reasonable to assume that some of those complex wires will inevitable cross for whatever reasons. That being said, I'm also tempted to agree with your more 'spiritual' theory. There definitely is something ethereally cathartic about vore that goes beyond just sexual impulse. This whole discourse reminds me of a thread on /ss/ where people were basically discussing the same thing for that fetish. What I noticed to be consistent, going off both my own feelings and what I read in that thread, is that aside from a few people who gravitate towards ss because they just like shotas, for the overwhelming majority of people there it was some variation of having had to grow up too fast and thus missing out on major parts of their childhoods, combined with some form of mild to severe neglect which resulted in strong feelings of loneliness and ostracization pretty early in their development. Consequently, this results in a skewed understanding of what being loved feels like, and once that deep seated desire for safety and affection crosses with the sexuality wires in the brain during puberty, you begin to associate that yearning with arousal too, and that creates this perception that love, acceptance and safety are somewhat equivalent with sex. To add a slightly more personal note (since idk if this part is true for others), feeling abandoned and alone during most of my childhood, I had to figure out pretty much everything on my own, and though it sounds dramatic to put it this way, it was essentially 'figure it out by yourself or die' with every single milestone. Lacking any form of guidance, I was starved for any sort of attention. Skipping over the intricate details, I eventually realized that if I can be useful to people, I would be needed and thus loved. Getting back to the point, because of the whole sex and love are pretty much the same thing, this eventually manifests in the desire to vicariously experience that lost affection and guidance by jacking off to art of shotas getting fucked by nee-chans and mommies, even if it involves yourself being abused since at the very least you are desired. This is consistent with my own experience, and I think that many others would relate. In addition to the above, there is also the factor that in these fantasies I'm a weak and naive kid, so in this context, the idea of being needed feels even more unconditional, since I have seemingly nothing to offer. On top of that, my relationship with sex was already strained from age five after basically getting groomed by my cousin when we were kids, (complicated even further by the fact that I can't even bring it up without having to justify myself because she's younger than me and female), and my first sexual encounter post-puberty was an absolute trainwreck where I still had to figure everything out on my own while also living up to high standards because despite having a double digit body count at that time (which I only found out about later,) she refused to give any feedback at all because she said it kills the mood for her. The reason I bring all of this up, is because I this that much of this is valid for vore too, at least for me. While I'm very grateful that I eventually ended up okay and largely well-adjusted, having managed to work myself out of those depths. Still, there is definitely something more than just sexual fetishism to this. I have a healthy social life, and I have a beautiful, kind and understanding girlfriend of several years that I plan to marry once we finish college. It's easy to have a porn addiction when you're lonely and isolated, but since getting with her my interest in porn largely disappeared. Yet despite having a healthy and active sex life, my /ss/ and vore adjacent kinks haven't gone anywhere. It's like they exist as a separate entity from my overall sex drive. I even have completely different sexual dynamics between my sex life and the fantasies specifically relating to /ss/ and vore. The only way I can describe it is that it's like you have thirst on one side and hunger on the other, and you can't quench your thirst by eating. Returning more to the topic at hand, for me I think my attraction to vore has largely been formed as a result of the same factors I've outlined above, the only difference being that with /ss/ it's more about love whereas vore has more to do with the physical intimacy side of things. After all, how much closer can you get to someone than to literally become part of them? I agree that it's very difficult to pin this down, but after obsessing over the thought, I can surely say that it goes beyond just fetishism and more into the realm of ideation almost. There is perhaps a point to be made about how it might be an outlet for my more submissive tendencies since I tend to be dominant in sex because of my build despite being a switch, but my gf and I play around with dynamics a lot, and as hot as that is, it doesn't really satisfy that thirst that makes me come back to the same forums and imageboards time and time again. Anyway, sorry for the long unhinged rant, but hopefully my experience can be of some minimal value to whoever reads through this whole mess. God bless and goodnight.

Look, I'm early 40s and have had this since I was 6 or so in the late 80s. Grew up in a normal, good, 2 parent household, it just took to me and I did not know what to call it . I would have my sisters barbies swallow.my GI Joes; watch our thick neighbor sunbath; she had massive thighs and I always saw how big and round they were, her boobs too and imagined being swallowed inside her, at 6 years old! Sleepover parties would get a painful woody when we pretended our sleeping bag was swallowing us when we slept in it. Now, believe me or not, I've always been a good looking guy and a huge gym rat, I still do powerlifting and keep myself looking good as I get older. This has never left me, creates the want to 69 or have oral sex more because in my mind I'm still imagining unbirth or the like. When fucking and watching titties bounce, imagining that my partner has swallowed someone and they are inside struggling to get out. It's never left me and the internet showed me groups like BigGulp and discovered Mamabliss and it morphed to where I found variants of the fetish I liked even more. People being consumed vaginally, unwilling, digested ... I have been able to get a few partners to play along as well, morphing pics they sent and dumb shit, who knows what they were thinking but they played along because we had fun with it. Others you can tell they smile at a comment and you drop because you know it makes them uncomfortable. It's just there, nothing caused it, religion makes you feel bad about it, but it is just a thing people have and the internet exploited it. There was no internet when I came up, can't explain why some have it...they just do. One girl that played along I was with said it was a dominance thing, I dunno, I'm not into a woman dominating me, would not.mind seeing her consume another girl unwillingly but.... It also has drawn me only to thicker, curvy women. I can't even stand a skinny, small girl. Never would date them and it was all because of this fetish. Thicker girl looks like she has voted people and can use my imagination. Skinny woman could be a knock out, blonde beauty, if there is no ass and thick legs or showing muscle, I have 0 interest. Some insight from.an OG who always thought this will eventually go away, it hasn't. It's also a hard secret to keep when you get married and have a professional career, you get bogged down so the need to see it lessens but it's still there. Some of you may have found it in cartoons as well and the internet helped speed your fetish along. I remember in the late 80s the original Ghostbuster Cartoon Episode had a water monster that was about or did swallow the while crew, stuff like that was intriguing as well. There was no outlet for it but you knew you liked it. Don't over analyze this, it's a fetish kink. Just a more wierd, obscure one.

I think vore was always just there in humanity system that evolved from the horrors of cannibal consuming another soul to a more sexual fantasy. One case study analysis connected the fantasy with sexual masochism, and suggested that it could be motivated by a desire to merge with a more powerful other or permanently escape loneliness.With "no known treatment" for vorarephiles who feel 'ill' with their sexuality, psychologists at Toronto's Centre for Addiction and Mental Health have recommended trying to "adjust to, rather than change or suppress" the sexual interest. Medication for libido reduction could be used if deemed necessary. So there really nothing wrong with folks who enjoy getting off to being eaten, or watching another be swallowed by a big pred, we just got be more moderate with it an not go crazy with it. Which folks here think they have trust me you not, unless your out there really eating people you are very much okay.

>>56046 I think it's just genetics, that would be extremely easy to prove if someone had the balls to clone a human being that had a vore fetish

>>65755 "just genetics" is such a boring cop-out answer, as is "muh brain wiring"

>>56063 Good god. I don't mean anything personally against you, but I've heard this toxoplasmosis theory so many times over the years and it frustrates me to no end. Before I pop off, I would like to agree on a few points. Yes, it's true that there is evidence that toxoplasmosis does affect humans psychologically aside from making them sick. Of course, as the other anon pointed out, if there is enough toxoplasmosis bacteria in your blood to cause an effect on your psyche, there would certainly be enough of it to cause other symptoms of parasitic infection that would show up on blood tests. Nonetheless, let's still entertain the idea regardless. My primary issue with this theory is that while it seems like a quick and easy explanation for an outwardly weird fetish, since "Mice and humans are both mammals! The toxoplasmosis makes mice *want* to be eaten by cats, kind of, I think... Uhm, anyway! Since it makes mice *want to be eaten by cats*, it can also make humans want to be eaten too! It makes so much sense!", this very conclusion shows that the claimant has only a very surface level understanding of how parasites or neurotransmitters work. I'm sorry, and I mean no disrespect to you personally, but the whole argument is just really dumb and makes it really obvious that the claimant is more concerned with finding an easy explanation (read cope) rather than actually looking at the facts. I realize that you could accuse me of straw-manning, and to be honest, I admit that I kind of am. Keep in mind, however, that I've heard this rhetoric being spouted by every third person whenever anyone wonders about where vore as a fetish might have come from. Moving on, yes, the toxoplasmosis makes mice behave in a way that makes them more likely to get caught and thus eaten by cats, but as impressive as the evolutionary adaptation is it doesn't just magically "no longer afraid of cats" specifically, much less "attracted to them." The way that the parasite affects mice is by removing their natural inhibitions and just blocking their fear instincts, slowing their reaction time and making them less averse to cats, as well as boosting their testosterone, which makes them more cocky and less likely to back away. In essence, a mouse on toxoplasmosis is not that different to my buddy Blake who had a few too many Jager bombs one evening and started challenging passing cops to fistfights. With a single google search, you'll find that toxoplasmosis doesn't make mice less afraid of cats, but rather just less afraid of stuff in general. Granted, there is a study (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3210761/) that posits that the cognitive effects of the toxoplasma can in fact make the host less aversive to the smell of cat urine when compared to the urine of other animals. (They also found that the same effect is absent when it comes to the urine of big cats like tigers, which is another point against your theory.) But still, this doesn't mean that the mice somehow fall in love and seek out cats specifically. I don't know how much experience you have with different animals, so this might come as a surprise, but for pretty much most animals in existence, their urine fucking reeks, since that's kind of one of the functions of urine for a great deal of animals. Nonetheless, though being less averse to the scent of cat urine does mean that the mice are more likely to get eaten, they don't so much get a death wish of being devoured by the cute cat that lives down the alley as they are just hopped up on testosterone and too brain damaged to realize they're in any danger before it's too late. Something that's also pretty interesting in this study is that among those affected by the toxoplasma, the infected men found cat urine to be more pleasant than the non-infected men, but among the women the opposite was true, with infected women being more aversive to the same samples than non-infected women. There were also other behavioral differences between the infected men and women, with infected men being more impulsive and more likely to take risks and took worse care of themselves than the control group while the infected women were instead more cautious and were more careful about their appearance than their respective control group, but whose are explained away by other societal and evolutionary factors that I won't really get into. (TLDR toxo messes with the brain which leads to chronic stress, which affects men and women differently long-term). Regardless, though the study specifies that such a distinction has yet to be observed in mice, and that there's not enough data to say anything conclusive regarding this split, there is still non-insignificant statistical evidence that (at least in human subjects), toxoplasmosis might indeed affect men more than it does women. I have to admit that despite my seething hatred for this whole "vore is from toxoplasmo because mouse get eaten lol!" hypothesis, as I read through that part, a small part of me wondered if perhaps there may be some truth to the whole toxoplasmosis theory after all, since if you fudge the numbers a little, you could potentially twist the findings to mean that human males exhibit the same behaviors that get mice eaten more frequently, and if you're really lenient with that conclusion, I can see how it could add credence to the toxoplasmosis hypothesis about vore. Of course such a conclusion is still extremely tenuous, since as I mentioned before, aside from the already low evidence, the risk taking behavior is most likely caused by the chronic stress rather than direct changes to behavior. Nonetheless, let's give you the benefit of the doubt. Let's be extremely generous and lenient with the actual findings and assume that toxoplasmosis really does affect humans directly and that these effects present in the same way that they do in mice. Great! Now, humans affected with toxoplasmosis are significantly less aversive to the smell of cat urine, and aren't afraid of cats anymore! What now? If you really think about it, cats can be terrifying. They've technically never been domesticated like dogs or livestock have been since aside from a few rare breeds cats lack floppy ears. They have really sharp claws, pretty strong fangs, and in all regards they're apex predators. The only reason that they're such common pets is because cats just so happen to integrate well into life with humans, especially in more densely populated areas, and they're too small to be a real threat (though they can be surprisingly strong for their size). Assuming the above, humans affected by toxoplasma bacteria would be less aversive to cats, and would perceive them as less of a threat, but the question remains: What now? Even with all the afforded lenience, this fails to establish any link with vore fetishisms at all. Your theory about many preds being depicted in an anime-like style which gives them cat-like features, which in term makes them more appealing as preds is cute, but it completely falls through once you realize that this only applies to furries. While many furries are into vore, far from all people that are into vore are furries. Moreover, 'vore' as a term in itself is more of an umbrella that encompasses several related kinks and fetishes rather than being a single thing like feet. Yes, all of these things are related by having something to do with x being eaten or otherwise consumed by y, but there is a ton of variability, and for many including myself, the "eating" element alone is rarely enough to satisfy this craving without other factors, all of which vary widely. Hell, maybe for some people that are exclusively attracted to vore content featuring cat-like preds toxoplasmosis may actually be the reason for their preference, but aside from being extremely unlikely due to my next point which I will bring up shortly, that still fails to account for the wider population of people with this fetish. As teased above, this theory has another fatal flaw, and that is the fact that toxoplasmosis as an illness presents itself very clearly. Unlike stuff like mono or chlamydia, you can't really have toxoplasmosis without noticing it. You can't catch it from some random cat and have it be severe enough to have any kind of effect, then go on living your life as normal but now suddenly attracted to women swallowing other people whole. Toxoplasmosis is a diagnosable condition with distinct symptoms. Yes, it does in fact affect the brain, but instead of making someone suddenly develop a niche fetish, it makes them suicidal, depressed and unable to concentrate. While toxo can be asymptomatic, that's because your immune system kills it before it can do any harm, but even then, there is a distinct immune response that appears in blood tests even if you're absolutely normal otherwise. Lastly, your argument fails on a purely statistical basis. As you said yourself, there are populations where up to 50% of people are infected, which means that it's far from rare at all. You would think that if a vore fetish is caused by a disease that has is and has been so prevalent in humans, that it would have had more of a presence in art, and wouldn't be such a rare thing. For comparison, the number of people that have a foot fetish is about 30%, and though it's recognized as being somewhat niche, it's still widely known about. Even before the times of widespread sexual acceptance, there is telltale evidence of people throughout history being into feet. By your logic, there should be historical records of whole cultures recognizing vore as potentially sexual, yet aside from a very few limited examples where the intent behind its inclusion is unclear, this doesn't exist. TL;DR, The toxoplasmosis hypothesis is retarded and lazy, and you are a retard for believing it.

>>65802 >I have to admit that despite my seething hatred for this whole "vore is from toxoplasmo because mouse get eaten lol!" hypothesis, as I read through that part, a small part of me wondered if perhaps there may be some truth to the whole toxoplasmosis theory after all, since if you fudge the numbers a little, you could potentially twist the findings to mean that human males exhibit the same behaviors that get mice eaten more frequently, and if you're really lenient with that conclusion, I can see how it could add credence to the toxoplasmosis hypothesis about vore. Of course such a conclusion is still extremely tenuous, since as I mentioned before, aside from the already low evidence, the risk taking behavior is most likely caused by the chronic stress rather than direct changes to behavior. <I haven't seen the to toxoplasmosis idea tied to vore, but I have seen it used quite often used as a "Reason" to explain why fags exist. Personally, I do believe that it's jumping to conclusions based on little evidence, but then again pozzing uninfected people is a well known past-time. However I also don't think that we will ever see any actual studies giving us a conclusive answer on the subjects because (1) "that would be wrong" to study the differences between any demographics and potentially come to the conclusion that certain lifestyles and people are statistically "better" than others, and (2) a reproducible study would actually give people a concrete document to refer to that would then shut down any discussion on the matter.

>>65765 Occam's razor, and besides what do you think it is?

>>65820 Occam's razor isn't meant to be used like that >This explanation is the simplest to me therefore it is correct and I will discard all other explanations Saying "it's just genetics" is kinda meaningless, even if it is encoded in the genes, that doesn't explain why it's there in the first place. It's just materialist reductionism. I posted some of my thoughts here >>65687

Personally, I've always liked the Psychology angle of why people are into vore. From it being the ultimate form of being close to someone, to the "Call of the Void" psychologic phenomenon, (where someone pictures dying while doing something mundane, like driving through that guardrail and off a cliff). Vore appeals to suicidal fantasies, snuff fantasies, furry fantasies, eating/food pleasure, isekai fantasies, magical world fantasies, so many different fetishes, stories, ideas, and stories can tie into Vore. It's got it's basis in history too, as someone above pointed out. The fact that people can connect to others about a shared fetish/enjoyment/idea, one thats tied to so many things, some of them dark, and enjoy it is fascinating to me. Personally, I found Vore when I was a depressed teen almost 2 decades ago. Always loved dragons, at the time I had recently lost my Mom to breast cancer, Couple dark thoughts here, some why am I still alives there, and I had the thought of "What would life be like if I could be reborn a dragon?" Couple Google searches later, and now I know what Unbirth, vore, etc is. Also figured out why I really liked Crystal, Elora, Carmelita Fox, and many furry characters too. And now I had a fictional outlet for my dark thoughts and I enjoyed it. Sure, I know it's fucking weird, and I make sure no one close to me knows about it, but hey, you don't get to pick what you are attracted to.

>>56034 i wanna say thank you for creating this thread, this is a deeply interesting topic to me and i love to know peoples reasoning for their love for vore and why it resonates with them >>65715 >This whole discourse reminds me of a thread on /ss/ where people were basically discussing the same thing for that fetish. What I noticed to be consistent, going off both my own feelings and what I read in that thread, is that aside from a few people who gravitate towards ss because they just like shotas, for the overwhelming majority of people there it was some variation of having had to grow up too fast and thus missing out on major parts of their childhoods, combined with some form of mild to severe neglect which resulted in strong feelings of loneliness and ostracization pretty early in their development. >Consequently, this results in a skewed understanding of what being loved feels like, and once that deep seated desire for safety and affection crosses with the sexuality wires in the brain during puberty, you begin to associate that yearning with arousal too, and that creates this perception that love, acceptance and safety are somewhat equivalent with sex. >To add a slightly more personal note (since idk if this part is true for others), feeling abandoned and alone during most of my childhood, I had to figure out pretty much everything on my own, and though it sounds dramatic to put it this way, it was essentially 'figure it out by yourself or die' with every single milestone. Lacking any form of guidance, I was starved for any sort of attention. Skipping over the intricate details, I eventually realized that if I can be useful to people, I would be needed and thus loved. im terribly sorry you have had to experience these things, i have a similar story. lots of them actually, alcoholic and drug addicted mother (although she is now 2 years clean from all substances after 30 years, which is good) father was gone from my childhood untill i was 14, step father was severely abusive, i was SA'd by several women i used to know. i was diagnosed with autism, OCD, and PTSD... i hate mentioning all this because i hate sounding like one of thoese "woe is me" type people, i dont want to come off like that. but i think all of this combines into this weird hyper obsession with vore. now its always been lingering in my head, longer than i can even remember. but vore is the only thing that has consistently helped me stay calm during times of stress. i just turn on some stomach audio and i calm down a short time later. and i fucking hate it. i feel even worse knowing that i want to be hurt again, /ss/ i love for the same reason you gave, feeling that the only way i can be loved is by being useful, how am i useful? by hurting myself. im able to keep my self stabilized because ive lived with these feelings for so long but its pretty easy for me to be set off. all of my tactics to help regulate my emotions stop working after a few months but yet for some reason vore has worked for YEARS. it legit feels therapeutic for me and i feel awful about it, nonetheless i try to keep my head up and i feel im pretty good at it. i hope your doing well and are able to heal from the trauma you've been forced to endear. stay strong soldier

>>56034 Fetishes are fetishes and sometimes people just have fetishes.

>>56034 I had the fetish before I had internet, fueled partly by scenes in movies or ads. Finding Voretex made me learn the name at long last. >>56063 While I never took this theory too seriously, for what it's worth I did have a cat as a child and catgirls are some of my all-time favorite preds. There's also a little known Japanese novel that had this as a plot point with humanoids evolved from cats killing and eating (normally, not vorishly) humans that didn't resist because of toxoplasmosis, so the idea is not lost on the general public...

>>56034 I had the fetish before I had internet, fueled partly by scenes in movies or ads. Finding Voretex made me learn the name at long last. >>56063 While I never took this theory too seriously, for what it's worth I did have a cat as a child and catgirls are some of my all-time favorite preds. There's also a little known Japanese novel that had this as a plot point with humanoids evolved from cats killing and eating (normally, not vorishly) humans that didn't resist because of toxoplasmosis, so the idea is not lost on the general public...

>>65802 That all sounds suspiciously like what someone with toxoplasmosis would say

Like all other fetishes, it's the result of early porn introduction (EPI). There's so much vore in children's media. Watching that shit in your developmental years is bound to make some people develop a fetish.

>>86171 This is the "mother took tylenol" of theories on psychosexual development.

I read an interesting psychological paper (not sure if it’s already been mentioned here, I don’t care enough to backread) that suggests it stems from a deep sense of loneliness or something along those lines. I wish I could find it. But I don’t feel like looking rn I’ve got a splitting headache.

Ya know.. I genuinely do believe Vore was our supposed to be natural desire for human intimacy but wasn’t met led to it having some variables like a hyperfixation.. than our creative mind turned it into a craving, At least I’m talking about it in the prey side. There’s a reason why for it all different fetishes I assume despite some of it being a little outrageous, well.. Vore is frankly fits that category but anyhow lol I guess I can share a little story. I believe the seed that set off my interest for vore came from this one Magic school bus episode. It was that specific scene when Arnold swallowed that Magic school bus and they got that whole view of his esophagus sucking it down. I wasn’t really aroused of it at first. But then I remembered those detailed anatomy picture book I used to read allot when I was younger, had a hyper fixation on the mouth part. Then the fetish was set off when I had a dream about me being in a giant lady’s mouth. Shit.. I think that’s when I was 12 or 11? It actually got me to look up online in the middle of the night stomachs or Uvulas like 2 or 3 in the morning Those niche and specified stuff were the ones that did it for me. A little context, I’m 20 so I had very early access to the internet. And Being born diagnosed with spectrum didn’t really help much either. Still trynna figure out if there’s really anything I can do about this fetish. I have a girl, and I live in a Christian household so A convo or a topic like this ever brought up would be too awkward for me. No one, not even my sibling knows this about me. This about to be a TMI.. But For a while, I was into feet first before Vore. Then I guess Vore came into the picture when I would say probably 12 when I could say it became my official fetish.. feet was like when I was 5 lol. Ironically.. Vore was the first thing I actually got myself off too. Still remember to this day, wasn’t even in puberty yet or knew what masturbation was at the time. Until hilarious enough 2 years later.. I now figured out what I was doing was well… masturbation. Another thing, I used to be straight for a while.. (Hell, Homophic.. Lived under a Very right sided republican Christian household.. wonder if any of ya can relate.) Until I was fckn 16, Got into femboys surprisingly. Than it evolved into twinks or twunks but yeah.. I became bi. Yeah, it was a weird twist. Now I just swing both ways. The entire time before I swung both ways.. I never got off to vanilla shit like Sex or boobs or even Vagina.. was DEFINITELY into their feet and the Vore fantasy did numbers on me. It wasn’t until my Thing for dudes as well evolved and I somehow Got Off to vanilla shit with em. Not the ladies though, and I surprise myself sometimes just thinking about it especially when I’m with a girl. Hell.. when we make out we REALLY get into it. So idk what’s the whole psychological thing behind the whole, I didn’t get off to any vanilla stuff until a weird shift of my sexuality and STILL never got off to vanilla porn with a female to this day. I Get myself and half the time I don’t make sense of myself. Could anyone perhaps relate to me? Cause even in this community I feel like a black sheep. And don’t even get me started about irl and my environment Anyways, a cringy little lore drop ab me. Anyone think they got a reasonable explanation for me?

>>86177 You ever considered telling your girl about your fetish? This is coming from a fellow autistic 20 year old who's been aroused by vore since kindergarten, who also happens to have a girlfriend.

I'd like to think it's the same thing that causes people to somehow like feet & ESPECIALLY for the fucked-up people who're illegally into loli + shota (threw up just typing that cursed shit)

>>86178 Well, I can speak as another 20 year old vorefan. I told my girlfriend and she was pretty shocked at first, obviously. She said that she doesn't want to play into the fantasies YET because she finds them both dumb and funny. She was only mad at me because I hadn't told her earlier (I kept something funny from her for a while). I would say go for it, depending how degenerate your girlfriend is I think she should like it.

>>86171 Trvke, it's always because of EPI

>>56132 Same here. I remember laying in bed one night, around the age of 12, fantasizing about being swallowed by a giantess. Long story short, that was the first time I ever nutted.

For me it was seeing women sacrificed in a erotic way like the Conan snake scene or Oola dancing before becoming a meal as a child. I popped a boner and couldn't stop thinking about it. I think on some level for me it's about the power and control. Growing up I had sexual frustrations with women, that changed as I got older but still, I liked to imagine myself as a predator taking what I desire after facing rejection. Eventually that energy of my kink translated into the bedroom, I would dominate her, hold her down, choke her, lick and nibble her all over, lick her neck, ear, nipples and feet, even women not into vore when I would do that to them would say, "You know that dragon thing you like to do, I get it, I didn't think I would. I like it." Women love a beast, and if you open them up slowly to the idea the concept of total surrender, submission, and total beastly desire it really turns them on. My last ex would whisper "I'm your little snack, I'm yours, swallow me" I would orgasm extremely hard when she would tease me like that. So for me it's about power, control, domination, submission, desire, oral fixation, owning her body and soul, even foot play because there's many comics where her vagina or feet are given last licks as a goodbye gesture. As for others I cannot say why you are into it. I think because we were hunted and eaten by things much larger then us in our ancient past that primal fear still lives deep in our DNA, tucked away in the subconscious. The difference is in the fantasy there's pred sentience a lot of the time, control, sometimes even sexual release for the prey, a real animal its more brutal and total. It's the same reason for the uncanny valley effect, we are wired to sense danger, if we see something that doesn't look quite human alarm bells go off. Same with the pred prey dynamic, but we add our flavors of sexuality to it. Like how I prefer willing submissive prey who surrender to me body and soul, who I dominate totally and make them the object of utter total desire, but if they won't submit then I take it by force.