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why is the rigging so...bad? her chibi model is much more expressive than her full mommy model. i like it overall but something feels off. is this the best indies can do?
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>>105190 (OP) I knew she was gonna bog herself. The chibi is such a GOAT model
>>105190 (OP) Feels like Fauna in disguise.
>>105190 (OP) This was inevitable. I wish she stayed moe and got something like Mint's model.
>>105363 the img of her on the table is what i expected but we got the supermodel version instead.
Indies generally have both better models and rigging than Holo. The rigging on the chibi is much more fluid. This full model is jerky sometimes. Blinking and mouth movements stood out to me immediately.
>>105395 her blinking on the chibi was also bad. maybe she blinks like that in real life, one eye at a time.
>>105190 (OP) I honestly just don't like it at all. I wanted it to be cuter. Maybe a shortstack or an oppai loli. Her tits aren't even that big. The chibi is definitely a million times better. Anyways, I'm sure it will grow on me.
>>105190 (OP) Same rigger as fauna. >>105383 Same mama as fauna. But it also doesn't feel like fauna in disguise since fauna had a soulless look to her. Her face is softer, she looks like mint but without the range of expressions, she looks more like a sister to fauna (which is what she technically is) than anything else.
>>106013 Made me laugh.
>>105190 (OP) It's not the rigging, the proportions of body are slightly off. Her chibi model gave the impression that the the full model would be a somewhat short but curvy girl, yet the reveal is an incredibly tall and lanky giraffe girl with big tits
>>106577 >incredibly tall and lanky giraffe girl with big tits shes a kirin please understand
>>105190 (OP) The rigger is just not the absolute top tier you can get. Cillia > Iron Vertex. No qualms about the model itself though, Soggy-mama cooked and delivered.
>>105363 I want to cum on the creature
>>105190 (OP) The model's face looks janky and unpolished .
>>106512 Same feelings. I fucking love the chibi so much
>>105412 >>106013 Oh damn you're right. Good catch. I do like the model, even if the proportions or rigging are slightly off as some anons have said.
>>105190 (OP) She's cute, the chibi was good and it feels familiar but people will get used to full size Nimi. One thing I love is that the model switches expressions with her instead of being a toggle. And her eyes get smaller when she opens them wide. Just those alone make her very expressive.
>>105190 (OP) I thought the big tiddy nurse looks great, maybe a bit stiff in the head y axis movement if I have to criticize something? The chibi model and all the porn it spawned was just too strong tho, or maybe it is a matter of familiarity?
>>105388 Speaking of which, the chibi model probably primed us for a model like Mint's, considering the similarities between the two, >Large eyes >High range of expressions >Thick lineart >Narrow shoulders On the topic of shoulders, the shoulder frills of her apron make them look even bigger than they actually are. It takes away any cuteness appeal she might have had. That said, i can't stress enough how important facial expressions are. The whole point of vtubing is to see an anime character play and react to your favorite games.
>>105190 (OP) What? This is the only good Iron Vertex rig to exist.
you didnt get your credit card out fast enough. thats why
>>106909 vtuber fans are extremely resistant to change
>>105190 (OP) I don't even have to watch her debut to know you're full of shit because I'm familiar with the rigger and she's great.
>>106951 The original Henya rig is absolutely amazing, too. Too bad she switched to kvxslop afterwards.
>>107191 Thankfully her OG model is still the model she uses the most. She also has a live2D chibi model she likes using which is better than the Kevin rigs. Her original model is also my favorite, along with her chibi 3D model.
>>107243 The chibi you posted is vrchat-based and 3D. I haven't really been keeping up with her busy and stuff so I don't know if she also has a 2D chibi or not.
>>106951 Akatsuki Hotaru
>>107262 by 2D chibi I meant a proper 2D chibi model, not kvxslop's shitty chibi transform.
>>107185 Fauna's rigging was also mid, fight me.
>>106964 I know this is a shitpost but I thought it was funny she actually sang a few songs about cash and making it rain.
>>106951 Nazuna
>>106909 The chibi model fits her so well, imo. >>107344 I was surprised there wasn't any merch for the big model debut. Cover brainwashed me good.
>>107310 Not really a fan. >>107317 Mid? Big corpo rigs are all SHIT. Look at Cecilia's PL's rigging that she made herself, it mogs even Henya's best rigging.
>>105190 (OP) WHY IS HER NAME NAME.
>>106951 Not really, it is clean and up to standards but its really barebones. Like, I'm surprised for her to have like a few toggles
>>106577 >>106577 >yet the reveal is an incredibly tall and lanky giraffe girl with big tits Well, you know Nimi. She has an affinity for fauna.
>>105190 (OP) It's the epitome of soulless
>>105190 (OP) its not BADDD but its not good either, its very standard and basic rigging. She should've got someone who better rigs individual parts. It's just really outdated and amateur rigging for 2025
K, Just watched it, that rigging is bad, WTF man.
>>105190 (OP) Ok I'm gonna go overboard on this. Very important specific point to notice is the eyes, which is what struck me as the most immediately off about it - and it's not just the rig, I think it's the model art. Looking over the chibi model in >>105363 we see that -The eyes are well distinguished from the rest of the face. -In a relaxed expression the lower lids of the eyes have a natural slight downward curve. In the new model's face as seen in >>105190 (OP), >>106909, -In *every* expression, the lower lids of the eyes have a constant *upward* curve, as if in a permanent smile or permanent mid-blink. This is unnatural, and it eats into the space occupied by the lower part of her iris, so she's losing like 1/4 to 1/3 of her eye expressiveness there. It makes her eyes smaller than they should be. This upward curve is fine for a transitory expression like blinking, or when tracking actually detects that her IRL lower lids are reacting to a strong smile, but it is wrong when it's constant. And it is like this even in her crying/angry/etc expressions. -The whites of the eyes on the inward side also blend into the color of the face too much IMO, and again contribute to making her eyes look unnaturally small. -With these factors, adding in that her hair in the new model is encroaching in on those eyes too... it's just wrong enough. Conceivably what I'm talking about with the lower lids is a fixable rigging problem, but I don't think so. I think the art itself is like that. I also noticed that these eyes are a bit of a departure from Asagi's artstyle. If you look closely you can see that these eyes have the same ring structure that Fauna's and others' have and get the family resemblance, but I can't see any instance where Asagi has done this lower lid thing before, and also the iris coloration also seems more textured. This itself isn't really a point against it. But what if there was a combination of "going all-out for a new model for an important person" and "trying new things" happening here, and it just didn't quite go right.
>>105190 (OP) Wasn’t she rich? Why does it look like shit?
Is it just me or did the rigging seem better today in the Oblivion stream?
I only don't like the hair, everything else looks good.
Holos will have trouble to adapting. While they became atrophied in their holo palace the indies have grown strong. Her model would be fire 4 years ago
>>117583 she probably re-calibrated it
>>105190 (OP) Her tits are too big, that’s what’s wrong. She looks like a fatty.
>>105190 (OP) I think a big part of it is that when you are rigging a chibi model the face is like 80% of the model and there is not much else to spend time or resources on so you end up with a super expressive face. Additionally while big nimi is indeed beautiful shes also kind of a generic pretty face so were going from a unique looking and highly expressive chibi to a generic and moderately expressive anime girl so the contrast can be somewhat jarring.
>>105190 (OP) It’s way better than corpo models lol
>>132490 It still amazes me how bad the mouth tracking is on hololive, you'd think they spend the money on their big stars like pekora.
>>106512 I'm sure it will. At first I thought the chibi was weird I know you don't like change, no vtuber fan does, apparently. You'll get accustomed to it and six months from now wonder why you doubted it
>>136085 >no vtuber fan does It's funny because vtubing, and the entertainment sector at large, rely on adapting and changing to stay relevant and thus popular, but at the same time the prime vtubing target audience (at least in the west) is autistic people and that kind is never well receptive to change.
>>136166 While that's true, I think Japanese corporate autism is significantly worse than anon autism when it comes to resisting change. Those JP corpos will happily sit in stagnation for 10 years and not bat an eye.


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