It would be interesting. On that note, where did the /jp/ generals go to, and more particularly /djt/?

>>42778 There is one at /v/, which is where I got the idea from, but it's most likely not populated by the same people.

Iori from Phase Connect does japanese lessons.

Great approach if you properly combine it with a understandable grammar guide (it was cure dolly for me back then) and of course... Anki. There's still millions of words and thousands of kanji to acquire, but I would consider myself successful enough to understand my oshi just by spam watching those JP clippers that aren't lazy enough to format and sub everything, notably なめたけ and ホロライブ速報. There are countless of them, though sadly most of the good ones only do nijisanji and hololive, so if these two are kinda not your thing, I assume it'll be quite difficult to proceed. Repeating one part of the stream for a hundred of time to understand what the chuuba is saying as a beginner isn't what you call efficient... There's a lot of path to success out there, but I really recommend this as your comprehensible input in your first year. Then you can move on to the more complicated input (books/VNs) and finally chatting with your JPbros on Xitter

>>43154 how do you use jp twitter? is there any structure besides picking a hashtag and wading through the random posts there?

>>43206 Mostly that, yeah. I'll suggest checking up communities and try to reply to anything that caught your eye. Follow other fans alike and start learning how to write tweet yourself. It's quite rough in the beginning, because output might be the hardest thing if you "just want to understand" the language; so all according to his goals, I guess. If you want to get more output then this is one of the way to do it

>>43206 I mean there are always some hashtags to find each other in a certain hobby, but you can also just follow your vtuber's dedicated fans. They're usually pretty cool about it. I simply liveposted and retweeted some stuff and got 300 followers in a few months.

>>42712 (OP) https://www.youtube.com/@NakoMoonVT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvewJT6yunI&list=PLbAgqHPX5wXVxZKyB1QDFy3R2qguQOP0x

>>43241 what kind of other communities are there? im only aware of vtuber tags in their bio >>43267 how do you find these hobby related hashtags? and how do you keep track of them/follow them? since its not like hashtags have follow options like users do

>>43395 It isn't as effective as just following others, but this exists I guess.

>>43395 It's usually seasonal, I've only been following indie vtubers lately, but for instance you can find them if you search #4月のVtuberフォロー祭り and it's a recurring event every month. But back then I got most of my followers because there was a trend that people shared some cards with an info about themselves, their oshi, and why they like them, and then followed each other. I think you can find them by these tags still #ホロライブ自己紹介カード #ホロライブ好きと繋がりたい #ホロライブ好きな人と繋がりたい #ホロライブ好きと仲良くなりたい

>>43441 >>43446 thank you! i didnt realize communities are a kind of twitter group thing. how do you know if youre comprehensible when liveposting? and what do you do if youre unable to output what you want to say, like if youre unsure on the sentence structure it or the grammar. do you use reference materials like a dictionary?

>>43819 Depends on your level. I would say you should try just comprehending stuff first, like reading, listening, learning words and a bit of grammar. You can get some Ankidecks for that, also Yomitan which is a popup dictionary and it helps with everything. When it comes to outputting, I think it's best if you just copy others first, changing the wording here and there and your brain will eventually decipher it step by step. I would also say you can check the correctness of your grammar with ChatGPT. Yeah, I know, AI is bad, but you aren't trying to write long abstract sentences, and it can perfectly break down anything that you would normally use in a Twitter post.

>>42712 (OP) I've heard Watame is a good streamer to listen to when learning Japanese as she has good enunciation and delivery.

>>55952 I sometimes tune into Botan's 雑談 streams and every time I end up understanding nothing. Botan's vocabulary seems way larger than the average holo probably because she's older or something.

>>56291 and smarter

bumping this gem

Nopi Tulpe does a lot of English learning for Japanese viewers.

>>42712 (OP) Someone compile a list of HoloJPs to rank them by difficulty.

>>88282 Nobody has watched all of them long enough to accurately judge that so you'll only get dunning kruger lists. None of them are particularly difficult to understand based on my experience, they're just streamers after all. Raden is likely at the top due to the topics she covers while someone who speaks relatively slowly like Okayu is a good beginner pick but if you can understand one of them perfectly you'll likely understand most. Miko and Hajime being n0 is an eop meme, you'll get used to their way of speaking in a few minutes.

>>56291 The vocabulary is stored in the boobs. I learned most of the Japanese I know through playing text-based games mostly era games. Get a good dictionary app on your phone/a second monitor, look up and note down any kanji you don't know as you play. Anki's great, of course, but having an immediate, practical use for what your learning can help a lot.

>>90375 if the japanese viewers can make a list on the accessibility of en streams I don't see why we can't make the same for jp streamers

>>110739 There's a lot more JP holos. But of course, theoretically you could, but it would be arbitrary because it's something you can't really gauge. I believe once you have a high enough comprehension to confidently understand any holo regardless of the topic she's talking about, understanding the rest shouldn't take more than a few streams of getting used to their speech patterns. It's probably more useful to categorize comprehensiveness by content-types, like >ear licking asmr < most game streams < background games like minecraft < roleplay asmr (it depends but there are some very elaborate stories) < average zatsu < zatsu about something more abstract < scientific topics < several people collab (i usually cant hear shit, just laughing)

Anki VTuber when?

>>111948 There is at least one that recommends anki https://www.youtube.com/@MizukiMeido

>>111629 fully agree with this anon here

>>111629 they might lack a numeral factor but I definitely don't think that the complexity of someones language usage is wholly arbitrary, especially when you have a select option like the talents in which you can compare each other speed, tone, lingo, sentence structure, slang, and implied meanings are all things which affect the difficulty for other to interpret your speech