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/vsj+/ - VShojo+ General Anonymous 06/27/2025 (Fri) 03:17:21 Id: 4ca966 No. 491113
Farewell Edition Welcome to /vsj+/! A thread to discuss VShojo and vtubers who frequently associate with them. Keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other. Image source: https://x.com/RedPaletteArt/status/1938247706142470269 VShojo is: Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie | https://www.youtube.com/@LeeandLieTVCLIPS Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot | https://www.youtube.com/@ApricotFroot GEEGA - https://www.twitch.tv/geega | https://www.youtube.com/@GEEGA Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu | https://www.youtube.com/@HarukaKaribu Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius | https://www.youtube.com/@henyathegenius Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness | https://www.youtube.com/@HestiaHappiness Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime | https://www.youtube.com/@himehajime1570 Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru | https://www.youtube.com/@AkatsukiDHotaru Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou | https://www.youtube.com/@ksonONAIR Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro | https://www.youtube.com/@K9KURO Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody | https://www.youtube.com/@projektmelody Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee | https://www.youtube.com/@MichiMochievee Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse | https://www.youtube.com/@IronMouseParty Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied | https://www.youtube.com/@NagIsekaied Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak | https://www.youtube.com/@PekeIsPeak Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya | https://www.youtube.com/@zentreya Official Channels - https://www.twitch.tv/vshojo | https://www.youtube.com/@VShojo Related: /lig/ for extended + and former member discussion /999/ + /voms/ for Henya focused discussion Previous thread >>480380
>>491113 She'll proably be a bigger plus than Mata Also rolling for my wife
DnD live.
MORE TO COME MORE TO COME PENIS!
jorking it to Geega
I LOVE MICHIxNUMI YURI ARC
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>>491129 Hmm Ama or Nagi colors?
>>491138 Kuro's is the best one
I hope Henya is OK
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>>491136 enjoy jerking off to geega!
>>491155 she is not but that is part of grieving
>>491156 i'll keep that in my goon folder
>>491129 How new?
50k goal? I feel like its too much.
im out of funny oneliners for this rolling i guess
>>491190 yeah i feel like 10k would be more realistic
>>491188 oh man... Geega was a plus for so long.
>>491193 why do i care
Rolling for CACA because that’s the secret to getting retard color
>>491190 >>491195 They've averaged around 40k for the last several.
>>491190 If I remembered, vtuber summer slam were supposed to be multiple events. So 50k were the total dono target for multiple events that happened later down the line.
>>491207 This is a weird time though. Late night for half of US on Thurs. SEA will have to carry the donations kek
20K already in the bank ?
>>491225 wtf yeah, it's end of the month, probably gonna donate few bucks later.
>>491216 i see
dono milestones >>491245 they want to finish 250k target.
current auction
>>491268 Already got aoutbid
Michi always brings up my mood, i guess this is what a kamioshi feels like, first time in 6 years i got a kamioshi
It begins
kuro already got almost killed by Michi
Mouse almost killed Kuro and we just started
michi and mouse managed to deal 38 damage to kuro in one turn rotation
>>491338 zoomer guy getting bully by hag and millennial.
god that is a fucking cute car i wanna cry
Cute cats and Michi acting cute because of the cute cats is a deadly combo
my boy kuro getting bullied and killed (in game) again.
give my boy kuro a go ria model stat
oh henya...
well, i guess Henya won't be joining the collab tomorrow
<latina gasp! >not latina gasp! i love michi
how is dnd going? I really digging the ghost hunting today
>>491657 really fun so far, Michi is clearly extremely excited to play and it's very cute, mouse and kuro are doing great too
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>>491520 Based. I can always count on Henya giving updates and being appreciative of chat, even in such extreme and understandable circumstances. If I have to wonder if my oshi is alive I would go mad
>>491657 good so far. idk much about dnd, just enjoying the girls and kuro shooting shit up.
the wife raided michi
Really loving the campaign so far, feel like they improve each time.
I haven't seen Michi laugh so much in a while, she's so cute
mouse oiling michi
henya behind the wheel
>>491935 CRRRRAZY STYLE DAYO
this is what kuro saw in his dream.
based ksheena
Ksheena I kneel
first auction item done.
Why does the stream keep going down?
>>492124 no idea but since the stream is being ran from their side its not up to the girls
>>492124 It's happening to all of them so Twitch itself must be shitting the bed.
ok guys, quick doomposting before bed. If zen announcement was that she is really leaving, how bad you guys think it will be? In my opinion i think it will be our biggest L after pink cat BUT a relief after all these years of zenhera and baiting leaving.
>>492142 nah i have mnkes and luds on the side too It's not Twitch it's definitely whoever is hosting this
>>492152 don't think geckos care nor do I. She's already indiepilled up to wazoo
>>492152 It'll be a huge L for vshojo similar or even worse given the other 2 that left/fired And the current state of drama tuber it'll be like dropping fresh meat into the piranhas If it wasn't for that I'll say it'll be bad but they can recover Also If she really leaves it'll really annoy me that she pushed for EN auditions and for unknown chubas just to dip
>>492152 imo it will be a blessing in disguise yes it will hurt but man the long term will be so nice without havcing to bear with zen's constant outbursts
>>492181 what meat? If she leaves don't think there would be any drama just like with others, even with Mata it was fine despite her being let go.
>>492194 the ""drama"" will be the same as the ""drama"" with holo graduations: people who are totally uninvested and otherwise not privy to vshojo at all will say "what the fuck is happening" and then move on two days later because there's always newer, juicier drama in vtubing
>>492194 Most drama fags besides false have a very anti vshojo audience They already make videos about anything that happens to an org Lets say we had Matara, Geega left and then Zen one of our big 3 or 4 I can already see them trying to anylise anything that has been said by Matara, Geega and whatever the fuck Zen says if she leaves and come up with rrats and just paint the org in a bad light It'll be forgotten in a week or so but whatever narrative they come up with will stay attached to the org until something drastic happens again (good or bad)
>>492221 i hope we can find henya 2.0 because she really saved everything last time.
second auction item done.
>>492221 they won't watch streams so no one really cares
>>492224 Let's see what happens tomorrow and pray for the best outcome whatever that is Zen has a makeshift plush dropping tomorrow that hasn't told chat as far as I know besides her original weekly merch trailer It can be that or we might get another vshojo text announcement at a random time
>>492246 I've been on these sites too long I read that as new autist item.
>>492221 you have been reading 4chan too much. That kind of narrative never sticks
>>492262 well, it could be.
>>492221 looking at people outside /here/, i thinks people enjoy their oshi in vshojo and mostly ignores all the sperging about vshojo.
>>492152 For me, nothing much. I still can watch her if I want (because she started her stream during my bedtime, and knowing how long before the real stream start, there is no way I stay up for that.) everything will be the same sans vshojo branding. ex will blow things up like usual, that's it.
third auction item done.
Mouse is the brain of the crew.
>>492285 For vshojo, yeah, it might hurt their reputation, depending on how she's wording her reason for leaving.
>>492302 that's terrifying
>>492152 She already distanced herself from VShojo and it's branding well enough. Nobody would care after a week or two.
final auction item done.
Henya confirmed out of JP collab
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>>492328 unfortunate
Michi turned into diarrhea Megumin
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Hug Henya until exploaded.
dnd over
>>492375 Yeah, 50k was a bit too much
>>492370 It was one of the better one shots they ever did. Short, but actually fun and it was easy to follow.
>>492378 Yeah. >>492387 Kinda want to see Henya in dnd, even if it's short.
>>492152 Vei and pink cat who used to average 10 to 12k viewers per stream left and nothing happened to Vshojo why do you think it would be any different with Zentreya? The only person that would seriously hurt Vshojo if they left would me Mouse and that's not happening anytime soon.
>>492393 Henya doesn't like to be called short.
>>492431 Henya joining helped to really dampen that blow.
rollan cmon give me something not grimdark
>>492522 Nagi has a nice anime opening voice
Sonch is cooking (live)
>>492522 nice singing.
>>492570 holy kson sexo
Hotaru playing Tamagotchi?
Also Nagi live
holy sonchers
PLEASE SOUCHOU STOP SEDUCING ME WITH THESE GLANCES INTO CAMERA
No Kuro this week
>>492583 katawa vshojo...
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Is this a sponsor? Never even heard of a tamagochi game
>>492585 new game i guess? saw usan play this yesterday
It’s so big, how can kson fit it in her tummy
heh, kson has slorpin glorpin kirby enabled in tangia
>>492583 THESE BITCHES KEEP GETTING SICK CURSED WEEK
>>492614 She has tangia now? Oh no
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>>492619 yeah I think Ama told her about slorpa incident during their teatime. My queen being based as always
>>492614 Did someone trigger it?
>>492623 not yet
When is the Vshojo JP collab ?
Peke tweeted from new NOVA account
>>492645 Tomorrow at 7:30 PM JST
>>492649 easy on the ice cream peke
Here it is
>>492663 She looks like an evil Chinese concubine
>>492663 Aww it was only a nibble, wasn’t glorping lol
>>492663 is kson 100% lesbian? she needs to propagate those genes
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Sonch's troubles with launching Dune
>>492584 While writing that, I'm thinking I should make that logo, so here.
>>492689 nice one
Rollin early in the morning
Curry is ready
>>492710 looks ok as long it taste good... Welp kson can marry now
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Good morning, first time I get to roll in the comfort of my own desk in 9 days.
Slorpin Glorpin
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>>492713 And I'm pink.
>>492718 is it that good, or too spicy? >>492713 morning. nice.
>>492730 Its good
Hotaru and Hestia collab starting
>someone cooked here
I’m not gonna be around for most of today, but I wanted to just wanted to make a prediction…in 3months or less geega will drop notgeega and spam gtarp on main and will revert back to a 3view
cute gato
>kson raiding sleeping Connor
>>492765 i was about to say "not our problem anymore" but i remembered how much i wanted her in because she was so cool and worked out nice with the girls just for her to change and go full gtarp streamer.... Fuck dude
>>492772 i wonder if mouse saw connor cosplay KEK
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>>492772 Raiding viewers into a league stream, even an inactive one, should be a war crime.
>>492777 She definitely saw
>>492775 same, i miss old geega she had so much potential as a new member before nopixel ruined her
>>492710 Sonch and Hotaru are the best cooks in VshojoJP.
>>492775 You what’s funny, I can’t shake the feeling of Geega leaving not making any sense to me, despite any reason she says, it just makes no sense, why shill vshojo so hard when you join if you’re just gonna leave in two years. My personal rrat is she got into a fight with one of talents or staff or she just wants to spam gtarp without her viewers bitching about it. For me it’s the weirdest and most mysterious departure by far
>>492805 has she posted the video she said she would that goes in dept about her decision yet? (not the clipped stream one)
>>492805 It definitely feels like it came out of nowhere. Especially the reasons she gave, when Vshojo's whole thing is hands off do what you want and we'll even toss some stipends your way to help. I don't see how that really interferes with what she wanted to do. The most that would impose on here would be writing up a proposal on what she wants to do with said stipend to get it approved. >>492813 That probably won't be out for a week or so.
>>492813 Geega talks like a politician she’ll never tell us what she really thinks
>>492805 it was probably zen... Remember her bitching about people using her to climb the ladder? I tried to not think about it but seeing how they are so far apart now.
>>492805 Her CCV fell right into her pre-vshojo average, Geega saw the only thing that kept her in org (VShojo boost) vanished. She legit stagnated, tried to fix it to no avail. She was getting sponsors all by herself, got all the connections she needed in those 2 years. She just thought, "Why should i stay, when i get all the shit done by myself anyways?"
>>492820 You know, I think it was zen too I just didn’t wanna say it, I can’t even remember the last time she was on zen’s stream just the two of them hanging out
>>492821 That makes sense, I hate to say it maybe that leechga guy was right
Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but I thought Zen’s reaction to Geega leaving felt pretty cold. compared to how she responded when Mata was let go.
>>492830 The only problem for her will be merch, which i think Matara (considering how much she glazes Geega) will just hook her up with Bricky's Orchid8.
>>492840 Mata was terminated by Vshojo. Geega terminated Vshojo.
>>492805 My rrats are (in rough order of "her fault" to "VShojo's fault") that it was either a solidarity quit because of what happened to Mata, or because of differences in the direction the company's going, or because the company is not holding up their end of the bargain, ghosting her, etc.
Stop the rrats, they are getting thick https://x.com/VacantStone/status/1938592996657643684
>>492821 >Her CCV fell right into her pre-vshojo average No? Even at her absolute lowest last fall she was never at her pre-VShojo average.
>>492852 >august 2023: 1.5k >may-june 2025: 1.6k
>>492845 Geega has never been a big merch person, even outfits she dragged her ass with pre vshojo
>>492851 why not jane doe?
>>492856 >stock price in 1980: $30 >that same stock in 2025: $32
>>492851 Mah goodness
>>492860 inflation? Because 30 bucks in the 80s is probably 100 today
>>492805 alright im gonna NotebookLM this clip: GEEGA decided to leave VShojo primarily due to a desire for greater control and financial independence, having realized that the functional benefits of being part of the agency did not align with her preferred working style or provide sufficient value for the share of her earnings the company took. Here's a quick rundown of her reasons: >Desire for Full Control and Autonomy: GEEGA is a "doer" who wants to **have her hands in things and a lot of control of everything she does. She feels that as an independent creator, she can directly manage tasks with "fewer layers of people in between me and the thing I'm trying to do," leading to faster processes and better management of timelines. She describes herself as "my own producer a lot of the time my own strategist my own coordinator". If she needs assistance, she can hire her own staff for specific purposes instead of being assigned staff. >Financial Considerations: A significant factor was that VShojo "always took a chunk of all sponsorships". GEEGA stated that this cut was a "big deal" for her, especially since she doesn't make "crazy fuck you money". As an independent creator, "no company will take a cut of things". She also clarified that VShojo did not provide traditional employment benefits such as healthcare, salaries, or 401k plans, meaning she wasn't losing such benefits by leaving. >Realization of Functional Similarity: GEEGA initially joined VShojo because she "thought more would change" and to "make it official" to be in a group with friends, and because there was a "mystique around a group". However, she quickly realized that "nothing changed when I joined and nothing's changing as I leave" regarding her day-to-day work. She already handled "pretty much everything myself" as an indie and continued to be very involved in her projects even within the agency. Functionally, being in VShojo was not much different from "just being friends with everyone messaging them a lot doing things with them". >Separation of Company vs. Friends: GEEGA emphasized that VShojo is a "company" with individual contracts, not just a "group of creators". Her decision was a "business thing" and "completely not about them" (the members). She unequivocally states that her departure does not affect her friendships with the VShojo members, as those are personal and "not corporate-mandated". She fully expects to continue collaborating with them, as many group projects were member-initiated regardless of agency involvement. TL;DR : <GEEGA left VShojo for greater control and financial independence. She's a "doer" who prefers direct management without "fewer layers of people," acting as her "own producer". A key reason was VShojo "always took a chunk of all sponsorships," which was a "big deal" given she doesn't make "crazy fuck you money". She also realized "nothing changed when I joined and nothing's changing as I leave" regarding her day-to-day work, as she already handled "pretty much everything myself". Her departure is a "business thing," not affecting her friendships or collaborations with VShojo members.
>>492860 Oh damn, does it mean my 1ccv counts as 2.4ccv nowadays? Cool.
>>492863 T-thanks
>>492851 i always chuckle when i remember during the april fools shit, some guy in /a/ called peke "Nicole for pedos"
>>492862 that's my point, dingus
>>492871 nova gets mentions outside this thread? nice
>>492856 I agree that her VShojo lows are only slightly higher than her pre-VShojo peaks, which is different from average/average. But quitting is going to make the problem way worse, she'll likely end up below her "pre" -VShojo average (i.e. leech era). Hopefully she realizes that.
>>492876 He means during April Fools when they closed /vt/.
>>492863 kinda hard to make money when you torture you fanbase with gtarp when you used to be variety >>492874 i wasn't sure if you were making that joke =p
>>492878 Oh, you mean the worst April Fool's "prank" of all time on that site?
>>492863 > to be in a group with friends, and because there was a "mystique around a group" so basically she wished there were more company mandated collabs which is funny bc this is the exact reason two of leavers left and why vshojo toned down on doing those
>>492877 Nah, she gonna slow down on streaming because her old work place calling her back.
>>492877 I think in the long run she's going to be fine if she doesn't spam GTA >>492863 > GEEGA initially joined VShojo because she "thought more would change" I don’t get that part was she having issues with how VShojo handled things, or was it just that not much changed for her compared to when she was indie?
>>492881 ironically that prank teach me how good is id life
>>492889 It's oddly contradictory. In her explanation, she complains that Vshojo apparently had their hands in her project slowing her down, and in the same breath she says that nothing changed when she joined Vshojo so she's going to leave.
>>492889 I mean, she'll be fine, yeah. But she'll lose viewers. People really do watch you just because you have le pink v by your name. Mata is already lower than she ever was in VShojo despite focusing more on streaming.
>>492881 for that site sure, for us? we'd still be stuck in a jannyless thread with the samefagging antis if it weren't for that
>>492897 Spamming Splitgate 2 with some random dudes did not help
>>492897 nah mata is low because she is spamming trash non stop for the last 8 months. I'm sorry momos but i love mom and apart from ck3 all she did was play really boring games and travel.
>>492863 Beautiful autism anon, like I told another anon geega talks like a politician…she will make it sound like a business decision and will never say anything controversial or something that’s too personal. Have you ever seen geega get emotional on stream? Fuck no, never…despite geega being a cold emotional woman she’s still a women and women are fueled by emotions, we’re definitely not the full story that’s for sure
>>492897 mata is low because she decided not to play to her strengths in autismo games, and instead become a splitgate 2 streamer for some weird ass reason
>>492906 i can't still wrap around my head WHY she is playing it. Like, we all expected her to play paradox games and shit but here we are, watching some shooter no one asked for...
>>492814 I stand corrected. Geega is addressing the allegations. https://youtu.be/SnScmV2CIrw?si=y2Hlr7MjZSwiDQY3
>>492897 I don’t get it . it's not like their main content changed, and group interactions have already been few and far between lately. Viewers are fickle, and streamers thrive on consistency. Even Henya’s numbers have been lower lately because of her health and inconsistent streaming schedule.
>>492906 A shame she didn't introduce Geega to Factorio before leaving, if Geega loves managing shit so much she could've picked this game instead of doing literal accounting work in gtarp
>>492900 It certainly doesn't help. >>492901 The difference is that the lazy content over the earlier lazy content created a slow bleed, while getting fired caused her to immediately lose 1/4-1/3 of her audience after the drama tourists left. Mata could still recover and even grow if her content improves, but it'll be harder now that she's not in VShojo. Probably the best strat for her is to get in with the other ex-corpo indie bitches.
>>492908 It doesn't even look like it's fun to play
>>492897 >People really do watch you just because you have le pink v by your name personally im not a brand loyalist since i watch both vshojo, indies and sometimes small corpos but i do usually watch less of a member once they leave only because as shown by the first leavers, the content usually stagnates bc they no longer have a manager that will give them incentive to do new projects and they're not gonna be involved in vshojo events/collabs/song covers anymore so they're just less on my mind. Think about it when was the last time an ex-member did something a more competent indie like doki did with her projects?
>>492916 ive noticed that aside from 2 very specific exceptions: doki and u-san, corpo leavers are not ambitious
>>492914 i mean... I still pissed she never finished vampire KEK
>>492916 To be fair nyan has done some stuff. The VNUS thing was comedy gold.
>>492917 Mata is Ambitious but she is too ADHD to finish a project
>>492919 Rehashed stream she already did before (Dark Web)
>>492913 The facade would break
>>492905 I'm ESL, so it kinda difficult to understand it. At least with this, I can get a clear understanding of her reason.
>>492905 Didn't she cry that one time on Zen birthday ?
>>492919 yeah but that how long ago and it was when she was still fresh from her leave, makes me wonder how much of those assets she got done or was assisted with when she was still a member since she hasn't done anything as ambitious since
>>492897 although i didn't stay for too long, last stream was good with good pacing and energy. alas it was too late, I already kinda checked out for her content lately. almost ever stream i clicked while she was in vshojo in recent months, was just non-stop fucking yawning and random complaining. yes, i'm the dude who got a pet-peeve against yawning loudly with your mouth exposed. At one point, I was genuinely believing she has a health issue like sleep apnea or some shit. A non sleepy mata is genuinely a delight, I wish i saw more of it before she left. Or maybe i just have the worst timing when visiting. I think she can build viewers easy if she keeps it up
Did geega ever played with her old group after joining? I really don't remember them collabing as before.
>>492934 they finished the MH marathon they had going on and then nothing after Nina kinda ditched GFC for barbie girls anyways, but mint, bat and grape had that at least
Can someone give me a TL;DR of Geega’s video? I can’t watch it right now.
>>492905 She shows some emotions when sucking at video games, like when she goes "oops" and giggles, it's in those rare moments where I actually found her kind of cute
>>492910 slorping NotebookLM: The creator's departure from the corporate entity, VShojo, was a long-considered business decision. It was not a quick choice and had been something they were thinking about for quite some time. The primary motivations for this departure include: >Lack of Alignment with Company Goals: The creator's personal desires and preferred way of doing things did not align with the company's structure and operations. They explicitly state it was "a business thing". >Reclaiming Time for Personal Projects: The creator wanted to reclaim the significant amount of time spent on internal and backend work for the company, which was largely unseen by the public. This reclaimed time will now be dedicated to their own YouTube videos and stream ideas. >Creative and Content Control: They felt that their focus while with the company was largely on promoting the group and handling positive public relations, especially after a period when the group had lost talents. As an independent creator, they aim to prioritize their own topical content and video format ideas. >Desire for Full Ownership and Control: The creator expressed excitement about being 100% the owner of all operations, business aspects, and communication setup. They appreciate working with a small, collaborative team, which they feel suits them well as an "indie" (independent creator). >Financial and Legal Oversight: They desire full control over legal and financial matters, including having their own lawyer and overseeing all financial information. As a streamer and content creator, they believe they need to be the "point person" for these aspects to function as they desire. >Business Decision, Not Personal Conflict: The creator emphasized that this was purely a business decision and had "nothing to do with the members" or any specific decisions the business might have made. It was an "overall looking at everything in front of me" kind of decision. The implications of this departure are: >Independence: The creator will now operate as an independent entity. >Continued Streaming and Identity: They will continue streaming as usual, their schedule will not change, and they will remain "GEEGA". They clarified that this is not a "graduation,"which in VTuber terms means retiring a character. They have always owned all their channels and content. >Ongoing Collaborations with Members: The creator explicitly stated that they absolutely will be able to collaborate with VShojo members. They view the members as friends first, and collaborations will continue as they always have, requiring simple direct messaging. >Merchandise Changes: While existing merchandise was sold off the VShojo site, that site will close for their merch. New merch will be available through a different store link. The creator is still working on the backend details for existing stocked merch but will be given options and will likely manage it themselves. >Sponsorships and Events: The creator will continue to handle most sponsorships themselves, as they largely did before. They will also maintain a big presence at conventions and event, planning walkarounds, booth activities, and meet and greets. The main difference will be that their face will not be on any VShojo-branded booths. >Direct Communication Channels: The creator will provide updates on their Discord first, followed by Twitter and their community tab.
>>492895 >geega lies and convolutes shocker. truly unheard of
>>492934 They finished Monhun game and that pretty much killed the group. GirlsFC is dead.
>>492935 I thought she would play this new MH way more since she even got a model specifically themed around her but I don't really blame her honestly, I haven't played it but the game seemed pretty mid compared to World (which I have fully cleared and really enjoyed)
>>492950 kinda funny that world is still the best mh even after 2 releases on pc. I still like 3U despite the underwater battles.
>>492950 Wilds genuinely makes me rage. decent pc and its a stuttering mess, at some point i realize i just wasn't having fun even if i can 'carry over' my previous monhun skills and knowledge. Last i checked it was reviewed bombed to the ground on steam lol. Must suck for girlsFC that also had a great interest in monhun
>>492944 Thank you so much
When GEEGA left she didn't thank the Vshojo staff or Gunrun. She only thanked the talents and her personal Manager. Gunrun didn't even answer her tweet. >>492863 >TL;DR : So basically she chose to not work harder and change to get big numbers but just stay spamming GTA get small revenue but do all her taxes and sponsor deal by her self. She left why still having dignity I guess
>>492950 oh yeah there was this one stream she had with bat where all they did was play wilds while trashing the fuck out of it both of them did NOT like it. And they're the ones (specially bat) doing the gfc monhun collabs, so if they don't want to play it there won't be any gfc collabs
>>492910 >More projects >Collabs still happening >Still a large presence at events Come on, who believes that
>>492916 this exactly it, it's not something tribal or oshiing org pink V => less admin work for streamer and merch dealings => more streams and better content => more people want to watch streamers with pink V Geega somehow managed to get addicted to gtarp, and completely nuke her chances to take advantage of less admin. Now let's look at Michi domination since she debuted and started taking advantage of maiko, as she should, here is there for reason
>>492966 and poor haruka who lost her chance because of covid and fall into bad depression because of it.
>>492929 I’ll be honest I missed half of zen’s birthday stream this year so I couldn’t tell you, but years prior I don’t remember that
everything she said made sense but gets thrown out the window with her constant gtarp slop
i will say i hope vshojo soft pushes for collab quotas in the future since the one thing i agree with geega is that she thought she would be more involved with the group as a whole but since most members are shy about it unless asked its better if they have incentive to get involved with other members more frequently. I'm not saying vshojo needs to make them ditch their friend groups but they should be pushed to try and interact with others more esp the more isolated ones like kuro. >but the first leavers said vei hated everything about vtubing except for using an anime avatar she didn't care to make friends or content, any vshojo collabs just took time away from her bf she'll be happy with streaming with the same 3 people for the rest of her life uninterrupted. And the other one is just insecure about people not messaging her everyday.
>>492969 Yeah. Hope she's fighting whatever brainworm she had.
>>492940 kinda puzzling because shilling the org isn't her obligation. no other members do it regularly and need to do q&a videos for it on youtube. Did people asking her where Froot was one too many times piss her off? I always figured it was easy views because its info "some" people want and she could just low effort yap about it. If its not a situation like maiko herding girl failures, maybe Geega's standard is too high.. or her manager isn't as compatible if they cannot free up backend work. Wonder who her manager was, kind of defeats the purpose of joining if mundane stuff cannot be offloaded. Then again, she's been caught with GTA open in her off time for.. a little too long and too often...
>>492976 >nagi is too busy on her valo scrim to live react i hate you imi pcute
>>492969 There are a lot of green IDs ITT today, i'm sure that's a sign! Moose will stream soon™
>>492976 >>492980 wdym, cover dropped like 4 hours ago >>492522
>>492983 i got baited by an anon...
>>492981 The thing i noticed, is that there is not a lot of color variety here. Its all just shades of pink/green/blue
>>492981 i don't want haruka to stream, i want haruka to be happy.
>>492989 well the colors and IDs are RGB hex formatted, and the IDs seem to be biased towards the lower end of the first two hex numbers), so it's rare to get something in the Ax-Fx ranges, so reds tend to be rarer
>>492983 my bad but to be frank I rarely read posts with no images in them
Hestia's mouth tracking is pretty bad. Its like sometimes mouth breather by default, other times its just trembling, and sometimes lose tracking and stop moving while talking. I wonder if she'll ever re-rig it, it would revitalize the model without needed a 2.0
>>492995 maybe she is not really using an iphone as cam
>>492990 Well she seems pretty happy right now indulging in her cookie kingdom gacha game
>>492995 my dumb bimbo angel oshi probably again got so far away from mic it fails to track properly also I like it, it's comfy scuff
STOP THIS STREAM DELETE ALL VODS
>>493006 KILL THIS MAN
>>493006 MODS TWIST THIS GUYS BALLS
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>>493006 MODS DOXX THIS MAN
>>493006 nigga
>>493005 i guess, though mouse's recent chibi model also made me appreciate the extra expressiveness. its quite cute, and could sometimes be the factor between choosing to just hear the stream, or watching their little mouth move
>>493006 Unpopular opinion but GTA RP can be fun. Kuro was hilarious while playing it.
>>493019 yeah in moderation, like h*l*s did it. some contained story, not clout grinding machines like stogra or nopixel, imo
>>493019 of course gtarp is fun but only if the members stick to it for a week tops, anything beyond that ruins their content, thats why nopixel needs to be blacklisted and vshojo should make their own temp server instead
>>492940 https://voca.ro/1knU3ISgjKN0 NotebookLM audio podcast style. Guy kinda sound like NL.
>>493024 >podcast from a transcript of an actual explanation We've gone too far. I would just put the actual video on in the background if I wanted something like this.
>>493023 >like h*l*s did it well some of them they're doing a bit more consistently with that madtown server but they're still very wacky unserious characters (for instance i saw this one clip of roberu being a voicepack dealer getting some girls to do voice packs for other girls in exchange for gta money) so funny one-off like what kuro did would be best
>>493019 GTARP can be hilarious with the right group and objective. Long time ago i used to watch commander chaos playing with chief and they were amazing. CC even build a charity site called "give me money or i will shoot the dog" and was going around the city asking for money.
>>493019 nah that's a valid point, but it depends on payoff. Geega wants sykkuno level of try hard but not spontaneously or quick planning. She's a smart woman, its more like scratching her ocd itch because surely she can work out it isnt worth it grinding a real job in gta to do accounting so she could set up an arc for 30 mins few days later, only to get snubbed by others.
>>493035 >commander chaos "tangentially" related but bettel's chracter he had for like 2 or 3 streams in nopixel was also fun. You just don't need to become a gta main like geega or hestia
>>493031 well, it's just funny.
>>493041 yeah, he used to be gtarp main back in the day, so he knows how to take it easy.
fire toggle
>>493019 Yeah kuro’s was funny af, I’ve watched my fair share of gtarp but it just turns to slop after awhile and some of the people on nopixel or used to be on nopixel take it waaaaay too seriously
>>493052 villain org
>>493025 >vshojo should make their own temp server instead Feels like Vshojo would need more members for that to be good. Unless it's Vshojo+
>>493079 Imagine vshojo having 30+ members? I wonder if we’ll ever see that
>>493079 my the ideal server would be vshojo, carefully picked gtarp streamers to act as npcs, and one plus as chosen per member
>>493079 it's same as rp in dnd, you just can have a focused storyline prepared for limited cast. nopixel and stogra and other perpetual servers need massive crowds to be good
>>493086 the horror, 10 members dying, another 5 green members no stream or missing..
>>493079 HoloEN does it with around the same number of members, but for them it's practically mandatory. VShojo can't and wouldn't force people to participate.
Had a shitty night and slept through the sonch stream but at least I'm not brown
>>493104 That’s kinda racist kek
>>493086 At this rate? We'll be lucky to keep what we have. Remember. Zen still has an announcement today that she teased at the same time as Geega announcing her departure.
>>493112 zen will shoot her foot so bad if she leave. I don't think she is even used to do things by herself anymore.
>>493112 today we'll either finally be free of the constant fear of one person leaving or zen finally gets therapy
>>493119 well... That's dumb
>>493119 We live another day.
>>493126 more zenheras, more leaving baiting... Oh god
>>493119 I'm not letting my guard down until the subathon is over.
>>493125 this is zenner we're talking about she did a whole show and dance about a huuuuge announcement over her nendroid that was already announced months prior
>>493097 this is the key point imo. We could have a more focused, smaller thing in minecraft like what holo did with ENReco, but these are branch wide events that vshojo has no way of enforcing the members into
>>493133 zen is the queen of nothing ever happens and it's so tiresome becuase everything is so extra with her, both the good and the bad
>>493134 >We Internkun is that you?
>>493129 You know how dumb would it be? <I'm leaving VShojo <By the way, check out this Makeship plushie merch drop with VShojo logo right on it
>>493136 explains why she is single, alleged
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>>493138 shit I blew my cover /j
Nevermind, it looks ominous again.
Its over
>>493142 Oh, come on Zen, do it >>493139
>>493142 hopefully she is putting zenathon out of it's misery
Banana
>>493142 we shall find out in about 23mins, if there's anything to be dropped by vshojo itself they're probably doing it at the :00
>>493139 unfortunately it wouldn't be the first time an ex-member had to shill a vshojo branded sponsor
IT'S MERCH YOU FOOLS ONLY WAY ZEN LEAVES IS WHEN SHE DECIDES TO RETIRE
>>493142 Fuck you zen i have work. LEAVE OR NOT LEAVE stop this dumbass shit
>>493142 It’s this >>493119
Some zenfags are just dramatic as zen
>>493142 oh >>493148 She hit her head hard enough to need to go to the hospital so I hope it's just that
>>493158 Hopefully, I got scared for a sec because of the thumbnail but it's just her Twitch pfp
It'd be funny if she were to leave, with no vshojo and her damaging the relationship with UTA she'd be on her own and well there's not much else to say in that regard
>>493148 it's almost over and she didn't even beat 50% of her goal. That was a really really miserable subathon.
This sure is a lot of somber sad music for "just merch" from the rock dragon.
>>493179 im wondering if mythic tried approaching her again, that's the only reason I could see her leaving for since she can't do anything else by herself
Zen removed the #VSHOJO from her title since subathon started. She kinda cleaned everything from VShojo mentions back when all that GFuel thing happened, if she were to leave now, i wouldn't be surprised tbh.
>>493189 i swear if this is not an actually "sad/bad" announcement, im blocking this bitch from everything
>>493179 Wow you're retarded
Also, her keycap set "sold out" and rest of the vshojo merch closes tomorrow.
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just rip the bandaid off already why the fuck are we having to countdown for bad news
>>493183 is it at least better than Mata's subathon? I enjoyed the ghost hunt yesterday, what little i watched. >>493189 wow its literally youtube style important announcement thumbs kek. it's over
>black screen
>>493204 because this is how zen rolls
It's so fucking over
ZEN I HAVE WORK. OUT OF IT BITCH
>>493206 mata sub was good UNTIL she had to travel and spammed shitbreaker for 18 hours.
>cherry blossom background It is unironically over.
>sakura trees. its over
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Please don't let it be bad news Amen
yeah she's 100% stalling until the :00 mark
A bit overdramatic innit
The other thing i found weird, she wasn't on D&D yesterday, she usually loves that shit, also a charity.
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alright boys any last words before our doom?
>>493235 It was a nice ride
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>>493235 I watch gay porn almost everyday
>>493235 >our doom nah man this is release. I wish her the best but I am also relieved that we won't have to deal with zenhera anymore
>>493235 we will be menhera free
>>493235 I kinda expected it
>>493235 I love ironmouse
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>>493235 Stating my appreciation of Zen and the geckos before the flood of "f-fuck her I never liked her anyway" starts
>>493235 whatever happens, i blame vei
>>493248 lil bro this is not half.
You guys are the worst kek it’s merch it’s always merch
all of this for her break from stream, imagine.
it's the :00 and no scheduled tweet from vshojo
>>493242 based
>>493257 that would be actually very in character for her
no scheduled tweet
>>493257 This is actually probably it. Zen takes breaks very seriously.
>>493259 >>493262 don't jinx it
>>493259 We are sitting here another hour listening to chat TTS
>>493259 >>493262 Vshojo wasn't made aware that Zen was leaving Vshojo.
She took the subathon banner down. She speaks.
>>493260 No, it's addiction 😔
OH NO OH NO
OH THIS IS GRIM
<1 hour of stalling god damn it
1 hour
>waiting for the green light, in about an hour I'll be making an announcement here. >take it seriously, guys
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ZEENNNN YOU BITCH
>>493275 <I'll let you prepare yourselves
Its over
Owari da...
Ok, this is something really bad
owarida
oh well... It's over.
>>493278 <everything is going to be wonderful and everyone is going to be ok
>>493275 >>493278 FOR FUCKS SAKE ZEN THIS MAKES IT WORSE
>1 hour of zentreheart zentretogether xddd <picrel buddy we got the hint already
>>493287 Termination?
if it's merch or something very stupid i will block zen. I SWEAR
/out/ or something health related. Unless Zen is gigatrolling and it's the banana gecko, but she is not that evil.
>>493295 doubt it she's not girlboss enough unless gun is done employing menheras
>>493302 >unless gun is done employing menheras So he's done with vtubing.
>>493302 honestly if they fired matara it would not surprise me that vshojo got tired of one too many zenhera moments and also gave her the boot
>anouncement in 1 hour >gecko plush will unlock in less than 1 hour Ok she's actually fucking trolling us, if she's leaving then that makeship banana plush makes no sense because it's even branded as VShojo
>>493293 >give everyone reason to speculate >hey, no speculating
>>493311 yeah I do cope that she is stopping subathon right here and taking a massive break from everything
>>493311 nah if she did all this shit just to announce more merch she's fucking dead to me
>>493311 Well I'm holding my breath anyway
>>493311 She could be leaving in August, just letting the contract run out with longboi as a farewell tour.
What if it's UTA instead of VShojo? please, let me cope
>>493311 This subathon accelerate her zenhera more, making more stupid fucking decision along the way.
>>493322 Leaving UTA wouldn't warrant this level of melancholy.
im gonna be sick
>>493322 she shit talked them last week I think
>>493332 kinda funny that her complaints were too many sponsors when that was the opposite of geega's problem
>>493313 Hotaru saw poiseidon and wondered if she could get along with her due to shared interest. Hesti already watch senpais, and also Amalee and didn't expect her to join. She didn't actually mention anyone outside of vshojo.
By the way, I checked twitter because of this and saw Nerissa and Amalee's MV is out. https://youtu.be/-ebTaNe9aiU
>>493311 a merch announcement wouldn't explain what she said here>>493287
Yeah, this is fucking stupid. I will pop up back 3 minutes before top of an hour hits
ok already told my boss i will be late. I swear for god if it's something dumb i will anti zen forever.
>>493346 Lmao anon
>>493343 No, but the previous statement of "I didn't get any sleep last night" does.
>>493346 It’s merch go to work anon zen is trolling
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>>493346 Why? You can't influence it, can't stop anything from happening, don't make it hard for yourself
>>493346 im anti-ing zen and geega for giving me a new found paranoia over announcements
>>493346 I genuinely think she's trolling anon, think of how fucking goofy she would look to announce a fucking gecko banana plush after fucking leaving
>>493275 >>493278 >>493285 >>493287 >>493351 if all of this just for merch, sasuga zen. but there no fucking way all of this just to annouce merch. /out/ or hiatus.
>>493354 i will keep trying to check here on my phone and it's not good.
It's definitely not just merch or something positive.
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Relax Here have some Zen webms
>>493359 >or hiatus do members usually need a "green light" to announce a hiatus?
>>493359 A hiatus wouldn't need a "green light".
>>493373 >>493372 who knows?
ok.. ok WHAT IF... Zen announcing the "other thing". Like who really pilot the model.
okay, but why did she get no sleep?
>Announcements can be scary >Do you want a white background? This sounds like a troll now
>>493378 Concussion.
>>493378 She hit her head and had to go to the hospital yesterday
>>493378 WHAT IF IT'S HEALTH RELATED BECAUSE SHE WAS IN HOSPITAL YESTERDAY AND THEY FOUND SOMETHING BECAUSE SHE CAME WITH CONCUSSION
>>493378 Ghost hunting was too spooky
she's having a breast reduction...
>>493381 >>493382 guys, she came back in time for ghost hunt
>>493376 ok now THIS is copium kek
>>493383 i subscribe to that idea
>>493390 i mean it would be really scary for her to open up
>>493383 the announcement was planned before she hit her head tho
>>493372 iirc Silver only announced her leaving once Vshojo posted the notice on Twitter, during one of her streams so i guess
>>493399 okay I'm out of copium
>>493383 Why would she need to wait for the green light to announce that?
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no matter what the outcome is i better see some fucking teasers in the few days or so help me
I blame Michi for this, her tarot card readings doomed us all.
>>493405 I don't even need teasers. Just some basic communication.
i feel like more vshojo members would show up and support her in chat if they knew she's leaving
>I still have to do all these sponsorships after the 1st She's gone.
Oh come on, announce it already.
>>493410 either she really isolated from them after ending her contract or they're all waiting for the tweet to drop so not to spoil anything
>>493410 well >mouse sleeping >mel sleeping >froot dead >haruka sleeping >ama maybe could be here >hime sleeping >kuro sleeping >michi sleeping or watching numi >kson sleeping >henya depressed >peke also depressed >nagi ababababa >hestia live >hotaru live
So no graduation confirmed.
lmao, it was just trolling
is she putting out google dockey on gunrun?
naw, this bitch. you literally baited a hour straight
Maybe zen hitting her head made her come up with the idea of the flux capacitor? It worked out pretty well in back to the future
graduating is different of leaving retards.
this would have been a great line to say AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FUCKING STREAM
bitch we know you're not graduating, we know that you're /out/ though
its the O word
>>493420 >>493421 She means graduating as "corpo graduating" aka character fucking dies, obviously she is not gonna do it, but that doesn't deconfirm her leaving.
I don't think we are safe yet
>>493431 it's actually over, she's gonna get killed by Elon's exploding rockets
>>493428 This bitch is doing that on purpose, but what we were scared of is her leaving not graduating
>>493427 >>493430 >>493432 getting kicked in the balls would be more comfortable than 30 more minutes of this whiplash holy shit
>>493436 She's waiting for the greenlight. Probably the tweet.
>>493431 >the O word orgasm?
THEY ARE REPLACING ZEN WITH AN AI
>>493431 Ovulation
>>493432 Yes, I get that it's not corpo graduation. Also what?
Zen is Neruo, it all makes sense now
You know, you could've just went live 30-45 minutes later instead of doing this retardation. But yeah, classic Zen fashion. Announce it already.
Zen was Gura all along. Because Saba is debuting, Zen has to retire this character
Told you guys
>>493439 >>493442 Overwatch
so are we safe or what
I can't believe Zen hates Geega...
>>493459 20 minutes until we know for sure.
fuck that, see ya in 15
>>493459 not until she actually says what the fuck is she announcing this is so tiresome
>>493459 24 more minutes of this bullshit and we'll know
>>493457 i like my O-word better
She is finally getting that GamerSupps cup she wanted
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Now THIS is vagueposting
>>493466 Orgasm face
>>493475 What did she say ?
I still think she's /out/ but this is kinda hilarious
She's /out/
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Teehee
>>493488 Why the fuck are my screenshots so washed out
>>493495 >zen is disabling TTS for the announcement Yeah, it's actually over.
10 more minutes of suffering
10 more minutes of this fucking nightmare
Should I tend to my work now? Or should I stay in the bathroom?
Why am I so stressed out by this ?
>>493506 Stay and tell them it was the biggest shit of your life
she is not /out/ because she is not that stupid >>493506 stay in bathroom just in case
>>493507 Because you allow yourself to be, this is what zen trolls
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>>493510 > because she is not that stupid oh buddy.
>>493510 She was cleaning everything bit by bit for months, come on now
>>493510 She is. t. Zenfag
>>493506 just scream and cry loud. People hate explosive diarrhea
the reason she putting announcement this far
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>>493510 >she is not that stupid
There are no vshojo members in community tab, like come on now
the announcement is not the plushie as we all knew
>>493528 Melody is there.
yoink
if zen is /out/ then i'll miss her and wish her well but it'll be a relief to not have a heart attack everytime she's feeling quirky if she's still /in/ this was a very evil thing to do and i hope she gets therapy
>>493535 Are we saved?
>>493535 They haven't updated their website in years, search for Henya then
>>493538 Never.
>>493535 nahh some anon said Henya is not there as well
T-minus 20 seconds.
INCOMING
prepare your F5s
>>493539 >>493541 yeah, i checked. no henya also. henya annoucement soon i guess /j
No tweet yet
Here it comes
i'm puking
Jesus, there's a lot of drama vultures watching her
>i tried making it a bit easier did you now
there it is, /out/
ok, back to work.
welp
Here you go
It's over
aaaand closed tab, that's too much of this subathon
FUCK
Worst subathon ever
Well, she is cooked
RIP Vshojo
>>493554 death to all dramafaggots
It's over
>>493566 Man zen really made the WORST subathon ever.
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can we just dismantle org now?
Well... Fuck
gonna miss you geckos
vshojo is now a jp org the king is dead, long live the king
Mouse discord instant message... Now we know why mouse was depressed
>>493581 and why one of the managers was crying
How did Vshojo fuck up this fucking badly?
here come the tourists, thank fuck for ids
No more zenheras, no more stupid vagueposting. Dude after all the shit zen pushed she just decide to live is wild.
Sure would be a great time for Vshojo to say fucking anything, even a basic "we got shit coming". Like, come on, nigga. Playing it quiet hasn't really been working so far.
That leaves Mouse, Mel, Froot, and Hime for OGs.
Shit was written on walls for months, not surprised in the slightest
>>493588 Yeah right, she’s not even gonna be around for the auditions that she pushed for
on one hand it fucking sucks on the other, im glad we don't have to deal with her unstable bullshit anymore as vshojo wish her luck
>>493358 well this is awkward
I feel mostly sad for Henya tbh
>>493588 i would rate this as the absolute worst way to announce a leave if it weren't for wolf >>493592 for an og to leave im expecting for them to wait a least a week for things to settle before announcing anything. Anyone remember how long it took for henya to be teased after the first time?
>>493602 It's up now btw
>>493603 the timing for henya could not be worse but thank god its over.
>>493603 henya has bigger things to care about anon, her stepbrother became an hero
Why does it feel like she's trying to convince herself for than her fanbase?
<make a stream dedicated towards VShojo auditions <everyone leaves Fucking hilarious
>>493603 She took Geega's pretty well
>>493605 3 weeks I think
>>493617 cool another month of dooming, i think ill just kill myself
>>493615 yeah, this was really really stupid.
>>493618 Never kill yourself
>>493618 Might be time to play any video game you’ve been wanting to play
bruh
>>493618 Why? If anything, nothing changes.
Hotaru, you're raiding into.. um..
>>493615 with zen out we can get back to actually getting members without both faggots saying that vshojo is the "zen's friends org" and without zen herself sabotaging that shit
NO PLEASE RECONSIDER
>>493603 My wife Pikamee should come back.
>>493610 wait really?, i thought it would be someone like a grandfather... man that sucks
on the bright side we don't have to deal with annoying pluses anymore and ari is 300% /out/ baby
>>493630 >her self
Somehow this is all explains why Ari was so adamante in saying she didn't want to join vshojo and wanted to go to gex since day one.
This is survivable but if Mouse leaves we're cooked.
Vshojo was preventing Zen from collabing.
>>493641 doesn't sound like it it just sounds like she has less of responsibilities
>>493641 <I want to make NOVA feel welcome, as i did with Henya my ass
>>493641 nothing stopped her but herself.
>>493642 Also you had all those impromptu Geega and Kuro collabs
I remember her vagueposting about leaving 'home' near the end of 2024. I wonder how long this was in the works for her.
>>493615 Yeah pushing Vshojo to do auditions again after the first round wasn't a good idea.
>>493646 This bitch is vagueing posting about it since 2022 lil brother
>>493640 mouse already confirmed she's staying we're safe for another year
>>493650 there is only 3 ways for mouse to leave. Dying, org ending or they get gunrun fucking a minor.
I mean, for all the doomposting since last year, it's finally over (I hope). Looking forward to the future of them (mata, geega, zen) and vshojo.
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vshojo needs to make these contracts last another two years at the least i can't keep going through this annually
>>493649 Isn't it in 2021? Back when she sadposted on Twitter, told Silver to fuck off and took off the VSHOJO tag from her bio for a while.
I'm just glad the bandaid is finally ripped and everyone can just move on already. Its a big blow to VShojo, but it survived this kind of thing before. I believe in good times.
💔
>>493658 yeah this is the only leaver im really sad about other than nyan, zen really is or was the heart of vshojo but i guess her slowly distancing her from everyone after the decision made it a lot easier to accept
I do wonder what is going on? Sure it could really just be a difference in direction and personal reasons for why Geega and Zen left, but with the recent staff and employees and even front facing talents leaving, something must be going on? But at the same time, Henya, the other day, said she won't be leaving as she needs vshojo. My only concerns is if vshojo is imploding or not internally...
>>493656 yeah she's been /out/ baiting for years, she needed this closure long ago
Meanwhile, QUINNO IS BACK BABY
>>493666 cmon, this day was depressing enough
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vshojo bankrupted by recent developments
>>493640 Honestly if they don't regularly collab with each other like Nova does there's not much point in staying as a group, Zen spent much more time with her own group of friends than with the other members >>493666 I fucking hate this timeline
>>493664 it definitely is a weird situation looking from outside. JP is definitely in a good spot, but aside for mouse and mel (and maybe michi), EN truly feels like it needs a do-over
Looks like it's just gonna be VshojoJP+Michi from now
>>493666 Fuck this shit
>>493664 Henya doesn't give a shit about the management side of vtubing, as long as someone handles that for her, she doesn't need anything else. All the recent people who left clearly cared way more about that stuff, they might have wanted more than what staff could deliver.
There are 3 inactive members, and now that Zen is out, do you see them leaving?
>>493658 Nobody's confirmed she's the last /out/.
>>493666 how the fuck does that faggot get invited to anything, satan?
>>493670 To clarify, i'm not against the +s but I think the core members should collab with each other more frequently, we saw yesterday how hilarious the first Ama x Michi collab was
>>493678 imo Froot hasn't left yet because she just doesn't care about froot anymore to begin with Haruka is just on inertia mode every day, she won't leave unless pushed Hime... idk what goes through her head
>>493664 im still a lot more sad than worried because of the way everyone departed. >ex-holos every single one of them cited "issues with management", complaints about not being able to do projects they wanted, feeling overworked >ex-nijis actual abuse, bullying from other members, leaked chats and logs >vshojo every recent "graduate" has left on good terms, wished all the members and vshojo itself a nice farewell and promised to continue collabing plus like another anon pointed out at least the jp branch is doing great, ill start to panic if we still don't get any debut news in two months
Dude. What the fuck.
>>493682 The core members have been ass at scheduling things since forever, even back in the early days of vshojo there were constant complaints about how hard it was to get these bitches together for anything. Not sure how you could fix that (Google Calendar clearly didn't do shit) and I'm not surprised the girls would rather hang out with people who seem to be available 24/7.
phasefag here who sometimes watched vshojo... are you guys okay?
>>493678 Betting on Haruka, it would benefit her brain goblins like she said in her ""return"" stream, that she thinks she disappoints people since she joined. Froot 50/50, she is currently grinding Strinova and Apex offline, she might return pretty soon-ish, i hope , and big doubt on Hime, unless VShojo terminates contract her.
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>>493688 >debut news right after the Minecraft server
>>493689 Vshojo just isn't doing enough to give the talents a reason to stay. It's really that simple.
>>493664 Henya has different management than EN. I do think there's likely something going on, or more specifically not going, internally. There just aren't enough core people to handle everything, look at how the Minecraft server still doesn't exist despite that fact you can do it in an afternoon, maybe a week at most if you're retarded and never did it before. What I do wonder is if part of it, though, was solidarity with Mata, and these last two would have stayed if she wasn't fired.
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>>493694 been better, but we had it coming after flawless 2024. Hopeful there is something coming after all departures are done
>>493697 Who knows? Maybe this was the reason we weren't getting one kek
>>493678 I could see Haruka + Froot leaving because of Zen or getting terminated because of their inactivity. Everybody else is probably going to stay for now.
>>493694 We'll be fine it's just gonna gonna burn for the next few days
>>493694 Luckily no one who I'm a huge fan of had left, so I'm good, but also worried for the future.
>>493694 rough patch but we'll manage, specially since zen has been wanting out for years, glad she finally commited to it and stopped giving everyone anxiety over it
>>493695 Haruka is only good for pitybaiting her simps.
>>493678 For a proper reset, the 3 permanent inactive members should probably leave so vshojo can rebuild anew. But man, despite Geega playing nothing but GTA, she and Zen were vshojo's consistent members who actually streamed or made content. Without them and the 3 perma MA members, vshojo is really just down to 5 members who make content, and except for Amalee, the remaining four, Mouse, Michi, Kuro and Mel all have health reasons that occasionally makes them MIA too. I know this makes me sound like a mouseschizo but I never really saw her as a huge pillar of vshojo. Mouse doesn't do much with everyone and even though Zen did kind of wind down with hanging out with everyone, she was arguably was the pillar and now she is gone. I guess its just Michi who has to hold down the fort until things get better?
>>493715 There really hasn't been a pillar for a while and that's part of the issue. Here is hoping we get a repeat of 2023 and this leads to the girls doing shit together more often.
The only possible silver lining is that they were waiting to debut an EN gen until they got all the leavers out of the way.
The auditions can't come soon enough Also, Michi and Mouse need to go full Nick Fury and get one or two recognisable names out there Also what this guy said >>493715 I'm not a froot anti but she needs to let go man Her name carries a lot of weight in a negative way for a lot of people Also at least Haruka joins in VC and collabs a lot but Froot is completely MIA(yeah I know she was active in her chat last week with 2 emotes)
>>493728 i mean thats incredibly obvious since the mc server still isn't announced either but the question is how much longer are they gonna make us wait
>>493731 >Her name carries a lot of weight in a negative way for a lot of people sir this is not vt, vt opinions are useless against reality.
Oh well, looking forward to UNIVOLT and what is mastering man is cooking
>>493733 they waited about half a month after the other 3 left to drop hinst of Henya So I'm guessing sometime in August since Zen is not leaving till July 11th
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>>493715 >pillar I don’t even see vshojo that way, I have zero expectation of ‘unity’. There’s no content servers/synergy and big events. Is it just me? The year Henya joined was good, they were competing in games and we also had candy pop. But until now it feels off to me people still see it in this light. I watch Michi, Henya, Mouse + Nova but I didn’t get impacted this year despite the health issues, they kinda just rotated and subbed in since they are still titans in hours streamed. They kind of just function as 3 indies to me, only unity I expect is Nova, and they’re delivering so I’m enjoying the ride so far
>>493731 >Her name carries a lot of weight in a negative way for a lot of people the opinions of btvm degenerates holds no value and never has the only reason i'd want froot to leave is if she's done with vtubing as a whole or is going the nyan root of moving away from vshojo to escape the antis, theres no other reason and i could care less about making vshojo more appealing to /pol/cucks
>>493650 Considering it wasn't that long ago Mouse mentioned not being part of Vshojo forever idk. I'm not saying it is happening soon, but who knows.
Now watch Haruka leave now that nobody will be talking her out of it.
for vshojo to get that unity back it needs a JP-level do-over where there is a clear separation of the "ogs" that will remain (kson, henya) versus the new way vshojo will do things (nova) I agree with everyone that Froot, Haruka and Hime need to be forced back into schedule, or fired. There's not much you can do about Mouse, Michi, Kuro, Mel and Ama anymore because they're too independent now
>>493745 Didn't she just say this week she's not leaving?
>>493741 Yeah, I said it before in previous threads, but I personally started watching vshojo during 2023 and during that time and early 2024 was when unity was at its peak, so my 'exposure or impression' of vshojo was when they collabed a lot. So my perception of vshojo is obviously a little skewed of what they were... :( I still enjoy the solo contents but there was an added charm or flavor when they were all messing around with each other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyHNuVaZJ-k It'll all be okay... It'll all be okay... It'll... It's not gonna be okay is it?
>>493741 Here is the thing when you say Unity it depends on who you are talking to For Michi, Mouse, Henya, Kuro and Mel somewhat I see unity They collab often not every week but often and reference each other on stream all the time But for some people, Unity can mean being on VC all the time like Zen is with her current plusses (for me that's more annoying)
>>493756 i think its just the inevitable of growing out of your friend group, its not like its uncommon anyway just look at holo, the myth branch of members are just as estranged i think the problem is vshojo is too dependent on ogs to carry the unity and views, zen quitting after pushing for 2-3views is stupid but it is the right move imo, we need newgens that will restart that journey together and become close like NOVA
>>493756 You would have the same impression if you started watching them in 2021. Seems like a cycle of peak unity, slowly decreasing interactions and then the dark times. We will have to see if it actually cycles back to peak unity or if shit keeps getting worse.
>>493761 it's gonna be okay anon yeah, people leave to do their own thing Zen has been content creator for so long she's been contemplating retiring at this point Talents don't disappear, they will keep streaming
>>493762 yeah i feel that some people's vision of unity is skewed towards what Zen also thinks of unity people seem to forget Zen goes menhera every time a single person doesn't answer her discord calls on the double or they say they're busy for impromptu friendslop collab #590585
>>493761 if you want to see fart in a bottle, go to 4, dunno why are you hanging out here
>>493756 understandable, start of vshojo was similar and it was nice for a while. Tho I’m not that parasocial and patient like others as there are people who experience original vshojo and still want unity ignoring years of no collab, background drama and no streams. It’s just a cycle for me, but Henya joining was indeed a peak year despite the awkward start
>>493756 It seems like the collab unity comes and goes, this happened before your time. In 2021 they collabed like crazy and unity was great(the first golden age) then in 2022/early 2023 nobody collabed and it was weird then you know the rest of the time line
>>493770 don't wish that on anyone
>>493770 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKdXNhY1oyY Why would I go to that website, it's worse in every way.
>>493751 Yeah but I would hazard a guess she felt she needed to say that considering both Geega and Zen. Basically confirming I'm not leaving now. But given everything that could change. >>493741 From someone who has watched from the beginning while Vshojo was just another agency the core founding members were mostly friends previously and collabed a lot. Most of early days of Vshojo were in group collabs and the big thing that I enjoyed was the sense that everyone were friends not just collabing to collab. Of course things since have brought that into question but the idea was there. Current Vshojo in comparison does not feel like that at all and it hurts to see how much has changed. Maybe in the long run that was inevitable since friend groups can't expand infinitely but still...
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so now that we know that vshojo accelerated geega's departure to coincide with zen's are there any "announcements" we should be expecting tomorrow? otherwise we can start counting down the three week mark before the next tease right?
>>493756 I started back in 2021 To be honest, there was not much unity back then either You had segregated groups You had Mouse and Nyan (sometimes Vei) Silver and Vei Zen and Froot Then Mel and Hime by themselves Kson joined and there was some what of unity there Then Nazuna also joined some time after and there was support for her but you know how she was Then they went back to their groups Soon after the Dark Age 1.0 came Honestly Vei and Silver was not a surprise given how close with OTK/Mythic theywere The surprise was Nyan (given that the week before she was out parting with Gun lol) Then Henya joined brought life back into the org and unity similar I think you know the rest of the story
>>493786 I expect Haruka.
when >>493787 <and unity similar to when Kson joined
My day is ruined
>>493786 Haruka?
>>493786 I don't think they are done, Haruka and Froot question remains. And Froot was recently active again
>>493789 >>493794 >>493795 unless haruka and froot announce an announcement before tomorrow that should be it, vshojo always makes sure these things happen right next to each other like last time
Ah fuck! The idea of Haruka leaving is super depressing cause I think she would drop streaming altogether……….
>>493800 If it's Froot I can see them dropping a letter and crickets from her Haruka yes, she'll probably say something beforehand
>>493803 >she would drop streaming altogether I mean...
>>493803 Her last stream was month ago, she is not getting better
>>493803 Haruka has at least some connection with members still. She regularly hangs out with Mouse off stream for example. But it isn't looking great.
>>493803 anon if it wasn't for ari she would be on a hiatus as long as froot's
Is it just the model Vshojo uses for running their business? Like it worked out initially, but are the cracks in the model beginning to show?
>>493815 You need absolute girlfailures in it, otherwise people leave after year or two
>>493808 Yeah I’m well aware she’s not really active now but I think she would just flat out quit vtubing
Man, someone has got to come out and reassure people things are ok. If no one does then I'm unironically just going to assume Vshojo will dissolve by the end of 2025.
>>493825 Oh, suddenly you care about Zen now? Hilarious
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quick tip for the tourists here, ids aren't the only things we can see you know
>>493818 yeah agree with this I thinkn I mentioned it before but vshojo works good when it has to tard wrangle girls like Michi and Henya But when you have someone like Geega idk why she even joined Also the only thing that worries me for Zen is how shes might self destruct in a manic state with how blunt she is with companies and might be a pain in the ass to get sponsors or how she will shit talk merch companies moving forward
>>493832 Nyan was watching tho
>>493827 You gotta give it some time, it would be weird as fuck if gun or someone tweeted something reassuring right now
>>493803 She would inevitably come back. I mean, what is she going to do? Go work at Tim Hortons?
>>493779 The dynamic and yaps are great and even synergistic, but it’s just more healthy to see them as super rare bonuses, rather than getting sad or blueballed from expecting it as regular content. That just how my stance toward it evolved, can’t be worried about some strangers’ relationship all the time.
>>493838 agree it would be more alarming to say the least if he says something like that right now
>>493833 Stop looking at my pants in that way Anon!
>>493809 And this is despite having 2 new models, I don't know what needs to be done for her to go back to streaming at least once a week >>493813 It's a real shame we didn't get Ari, she's my favorite plus, i'm sure she would've pushed everyone to collab a lot more
>>493836 yeah, watching the announcement
>>493695 >she is currently grinding Strinova and Apex offline, she might return pretty soon-ish, i hope wait, how do you know she's grinding those games?
>>493839 Her parents are rich as hell
>>493838 yup he'd just end up looking like riku kek, unironically the best thing for vshojo to do is keep silent and bust out the teasers
>>493694 no, the 2023 situation was a crisis, this on the other hand is just a bad moment
>>493851 pretty sure her steam is not private
>>493827 I hope get all important announcements out of the way first, then start rebuilding
funnily enough with saba debuting tomorrow this was great timing since everyone's gonna be to busy paying attention to that tomorrow kek
>>493858 Yeah, I agree but if someone else who streams leaves then it'll be worse this time
>>493868 Bro we’re not on half things like that don’t matter anymore
>>493838 No, I want him to tweet "it's all gonna be okay baby ❤️"
>>493868 that as well lol
>>493731 >Her name carries a lot of weight in a negative way for a lot of people by reactionary retards, yes. Normal people though? The vtuber reddit, nijisister and non-containment breaking holofags were on her side during teh doc drop. Not to mention that a lot of drama fags like TurkeyTom were on her side too.
>>493815 The Vshojo model is obviously a disadvantage compared to other traditional orgs that hold the IP hostage, take higher cuts and can tell their members to do things. But I wouldn't be interested in vshojo at all if they were like that.
>>493870 um for the biggest ex-corpo to debut? yes it does it'll be all everyone will be talking about
>>493881 yeah all saba needs to do is say the slightest thing that faggots can interpret as "hololive bad" and poof, nobody remembers vshojo leavers anymore as far as dramanigs go; vt or otherwise
>>493881 Who’s this “everyone” you speak of?
I don’t know anymore. At this point, I’m not even sure I want new members. What’s the point? Even if the new debuts are great, it’s never going to feel the same. I probably just need to take a break being this invested in anime girls on the internet can’t be healthy.Sorry guys
>>493870 It could I guess… definite don’t care about board side of things but sociopathic assholes as usual will choose a moment of vulnerability to curb stomp talents. Not that these shit ever stop, but we’ll see an upstick in harassment/raids for sure.
>>493893 Remember, , holofags and nijifags have way worse when their oshi graduated.
>>493893 take a break anon, for what its worth theres absolutely things to look forward to in the future, zen is still zen and can play with the girls anytime like mata and there are no hard feelings with anyone. People move on, it happens but that doesn't mean we can never see them again
>>493868 true, just like Mata leaving during the Sinder staff made most people just skim it and go back to shitting on Sinder
>>493901 yeah funnily enough geega leaving ended up creating more drama towards nijifags than vshojo itself kek
>>493913 wut, how do they even know geega.
>>493913 i feel a little bad bc she's gonna have to deal with that all by herself now oof
>>493901 Trust me, I know what it feels like when your oshi graduates from a corpo. Pikamee / Henya is my kamioshi.
>>493917 she decided to butt in on x during that niji male graduation about people being weird some months ago, so they decided to clap back when geega announced her leaving vshojo
>>493917 nijifags have a grudge with geega because she gave one of her geega™ takes during fulgur's graduation, so when her announcement was made they all started tweeting shit towards her, and someone even send her death threats on email so eyes focused towards them instead, giving geega even more space to paint vshojo in not a bad light
Things are grim now, but I'm feeling cautiously optimistic. I can feel it in my plums
>>493921 a less mature geega would gloat to them about not having to reincarnate and lose all her friends but knowing how psycho these bitches are its for the best
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>>493921 Except the clapback doesn't really work because Geega remains Geega so a graduation doesn't matter.
>>493924 What anon said but here’s some sad music https://youtu.be/vZa0Yh6e7dw?si=Tf6bRumiq3Z_9O4s
>>493924 Same I just can't wait for the auditions whoever that is
>>493893 Had the same feeling in 2023. I nearly quit watching vtubers all together as I was watching very few indies plus VShojo back then. Pikamee graduation hit me like a truck, she is my kamioshi, who i discovered thanks to Mouse and her SOTD. Then Indie Bitches happened, it all felt like it was all over. Just take a break, my man. We went through far worse.
>>493920 Understandable.
I just want to know what the downside of being in Vshojo actually is.
>>493922 I googled it and the grad was so recent. I just assumed half of EN already bailed kek
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honestly, nothing primed me better than when U-san left nijisanji without notice. I genuinely expected them to become an hero right after and look at them now itll all be fine in the end, if not vshojo, you will
>>493939 gfuel for zen delegating responsibilities for geeg in mata's case, she was a downside for vshojo
>Zen /out/ >Mouse going to the hospital >Monke playing league What do I do now?
otakuchang
>>493939 No V on your Twitter profile. And not in Vshojo Twitch group thing. And not in Vshojo work discord group. And Vshojo Slack team. And...
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>>493924 im sad for losing a core member but absolutely optimistic, this is still leagues better than our first group of quitters and we KNOW theres new people, "big things" coming, the NOVA ax thing and more. The era isn't platinum anymore but that doesn't mean its gone forever
>>493939 You automatically get a group of antis for being a whore
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>>493945 cunny will carry this agency the REAL PLATINUM MANAITA ERA has begun
>>493948 IN Vshojo. IN. Not out of.
>>493934 I wasn’t that sad at pikas graduation cause I knew in my heart that she was joining vshojo, it was something kson mentioned in a collab with pikamee around Christmas time 2022
>>493940 what's funniest is dude is redebuting on september 1st kek; so time proved geega right; as usually happens
>>493956 Bruh phoneposting suck. I should be sleeping rn.
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>>493955 >peak80.png damn how big is your folder…
>>493939 Team. All your actions can affect others in the group. All the leavers said that. For Haruka it's upholding the standard she can't match since she joined. Its what she said during the png stream, it crushes her soul that her coworkers do cool shit, while she is doing jack shit. Reinforcing her depression futher and futher.
>>493959 I thought that too, but deep inside my soul I had a doubt that she would return to streaming activities at all.
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>>493964 266 images and 8 videos, updated every peke stream (except this one because she was in very low spirits and just streamed what she had to do for the valo scrim)
Think about it anons, the previous exodus brought about the platinum age. This exodus will propel us to the diamond age.
Just one of those days
>>493934 Thanks, man. I really appreciate it. Back in 2023, I didn’t watch much VShojo aside from Mouse, so I didn’t really care when the three left. But when Henya debuted, I discovered Zen and the other members So Zen leaving now is hitting me harder than I want to admit.
>>493969 I never had a doubt
>>493975 Because Gunrun had something in the pocket. Not sure if he can do it again.
>>493969 She nearly didn't, thanks mamanya
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>>493970 I kneel, but don’t become Sherlock..
>>493981 At least Zen was hinting for it for months, rather than dropping it out of blue.
>>493975 The one think about that’s an absolute positive for me is I never liked zen’s current group of +’s except froggy I love me some autistic girls
>>493989 >months This bitch is hitting since day one.
>>493965 We're not asking her to do crazy projects, just launching her stream once in a while is enough to make some people's day better, hell just being on VC was enough but now she's appearing less and less often
>>493989 I don't consider baiting for months better than just dropping it out of nowhere
>>493988 lmao i love peke but not *that* parasocially lmao, i am not going to go schizo over her not replying to my tweets or some shit. I know that i just should drop streamers i dont like anymore instead, like i did with mata
>>493989 Zen has been baiting leaving for 3 fucking years.
Vshojo can pull the funnies shit tomorrow Also I know, I'm 99.99% sure it won't happen
>>494004 I'm not a pussy. I am 100% sure it won't happen.
speaking of mata, lol what a good timing
>>494004 would be the biggest W and funniest lickback but its not happening
>>494004 they're not dropping it until august at the earliest, unless this isn't the last we've seen from bad news, pushing it further
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The fuck, watching horse vod rn.. Ama almost got Christopher Reeved
>>494025 you just reminded me about that collab. Better than anything Zen has produced since december, vshojo will survive and thrive
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Stay awesome Stay strong And as always Rock on Adios
as long as i have Michi i don't care about what happens
>>494029 I miss those VRChat hangouts, it feels like eternity since they had one.
>>494029 gonna miss you bros
>>494033 Michi will leave when Maiko is fired
>>494039 idgaf i blocked my doomposter tendencies, if Michi leaves i'll go wherever she goes, Michi streams make me happy
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>>494035 VRC strim is usually a treat
genuinely hilarious that geega left because they didn't give her enough sponsorships or responsibility over projects while zen hated having to do so many sponsorships and having too much responsibility over projects
i looked at halfchan. i shouldnt have, kek
>>494065 Trying to find what makes women happy is truly one of life’s great mysteries
Just heard the news about Zen
>>494070 Dick, it's dick, only dick, everything else is useless
>>494065 geega plummetted her stay in vshojo by becoming a gtarp main and then wonders why nobody asked her for sponsorships
>>494065 Girlfailures is truly the only way to go
>>494068 Don't know what's worse, the same old raiders with the tired old bait or the very psychotic Veifags (like wtf is wrong with their heads)
>>494068 I been through this rodeo too many times I haven’t even given it a thought to look there cause I already know
Mata debut starting, if you wanna watch that
>>494068 at this point going to that cesspool during a white background announcement should be considered self harm
>>494077 we need more henyas, michis and novas
>>494074 Dick can only get you so far but it is kinda funny cause geega is a lonely hag with two cats and zen is lonely hag with two dogs
>>494065 Anon, they are not saying the real reason they left.
>>494087 look at these correlations: >mel doesn't particularly need dick, she is an actual succubus that just milks the science team instead >hime has dick >mouse has dick, figuratively speaking >haruka no dick, on her deathbed >froot no dick, on her deathbed >michi lesbian >kuro no dick, he dies every now and then >kson lesbian >henya lesbian, allegedly >nova lesbian, allegedly you just need dick, or to be a lesbian
Evil Momo won
>>494108 i forgot ama, but she is the exception that proves the rule
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>>494074 >>494087 >>494108 but dick is precisely the reason vei and nyan left
>>494117 give those anons a break, they just like thinking about dick
Better get some colors…
Imagine if you're one of the new hires. >hey yall welcome aboard >thisll be a big step up from being a 2view >sure youll do fine though >by the way, we just fired one of our talents >then two more left >so can you, uhh, just carry the entire org on your back and save vshojo
Ugly toes crashed the stream..
Evil Momo wins again
>>494124 Henya did it once, kinda. We just need someone to be like that again. Who's a free agent that could do that?
Mata is debuting a model and her stream crashed
>>494124 i mean is that really so far fetched? michi legit thought vshojo was wasting money by hiring her and was so convinced she'd be a 3view or less yet she became one of the top ccv members almost overnight
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>>494133 still winning
the only thing i'm actually sad about is the possibility that IF we have new members they might be pushed back after zen actually leaves so another 2 weeks of nothing, still hoping for some AX shit
Kinda fucked up of Gunrun to send a hitman to bash Zen's head so she wouldn't make the announcement.
>>494149 i fully believe they were already pushed back after leaver season
>>494135 Michi was a 4view in a neglected side branch of Niji, it's hard to compare her to literal fresh blood.
>>494151 he couldn't invite her over to karaoke so it was the next best thing
>>494124 Doesn’t matter unless new hire is nudged or inspired by Zen to join only to see her leave before debuting soon
lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPW1kNX6lQ4&t in case you missed the latest yuri development and michi fumble
Someone had a theory early this year that zen was pissed with gfuel deal because it got on her way to own partially gamesups and sinder got it. She even had a meeting with shylily back then... Dude, this woman will not survive.
>>494124 if anything, there is now a massive gaping hole in Zen's timeslot >>494171 Gunrun revoked her obs license at most unopportune time
As much I want to hate Mata for funsies, this has to be depressing af for her
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>>494159 This reminded me that that stream had Gun singing In the End
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>>494171 hahahahahhahahahaha
>>494185 lets be real, zen become unwatchable with some of her friends poping up all the time. I was already closing tab every time she played games with toaster and then she replaced him with a bunch of more annoying cunts
>>494201 This kind of thing made it less painful for me honestly, if it was Zen from 2 years ago, i would've been devastated. Did she intentionally distanced herself from others these past months?
>>494184 i just fucking realized something does zen even have any agency lined up for her now that she's indie? i can see geega handle most things herself but theres no way zen thinks she can be competent in getting sponsorships on her own right? or do am I expecting a mythic announcement soon?
>>494214 She is in UTA, anon.
>>494212 her collab partners just got increasingly worse and leechier I love the massive group collab in 2022, since it was people like Geega, Giri, Haruka etc
>>494214 lets pray for her mods souls
>>494222 which she fucking hates and will end contract with unless she's fired first
>>494201 Honestly me too
>>494214 yeah shes gonna suffer on that end but we'll see how she manages
>>494225 Yeah those were peak times
>>494222 Not anymore apparently
>>494184 GamerSupps survived both the Kirshe and Sinder stuff anon. No one even remembers that VShojo is with Gfuel still
>>494245 ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
>>494244 2022 post-Cyborg debut is one of my favorite Vshojo periods
>>494253 did she also say shes leaving them?
>>494245 Their website is old as fuck and they haven't updated it in a long time
>>494253 That anon is just using this >>493535 Which is invalid information, the website doesn't even cite Henya for example.
what came first btw, vshojo or UTA? because she was having issues with UTA already, dropping pink V might have UTA reconsider her marketability
>>494265 VShojo helped them
>>494201 It wasn't really that bad until the subathon honestly.
>>494254 I would say for zen for sure, but 2022 for vshojo as a whole it was meh as far as unity was concerned and by the holiday season of 2022 you could just tell something was off, the vibes weren’t the same
>>494265 Vshojo came first. I think mouse set precedence for dual agency, I could be wrong.
So the whore clan is destroying vshojo, next is Michi, wait and see
>>494274 that was Vei with Mythic
>>494277 what if they join
>>494270 she was already isolating herself from the others. Didn't she had a mini menhera because henya refused to answer her call during stream some months ago?
>>494281 Whore clan isn’t a real org anon kek it’s just a friends group Nick name
>>494281 Oh wait do you mean if whore clan joins vshojo? Not a chance
>>494277 Michi and Numi will have a political marriage to crate the vshojowhoreclan alliance and then they will find out they actually love eachother and 2x0=0 will become the most powerful vtuber powercouple in history
>>494281 assuming what nimi and michi have isn't just ship teasing idk if its a good idea to hire someone in a relationship with another member, imagine the shitshow if they ever broke up
>>494286 until 2 months ago sinder was part of the clan and ironically enough giri is honorable auntie
>>494281 >shylily another girlboss that doesn't need it >bao already has UTA >numi doesn't strike me as one who needs a corpo, she would be like Matara but worse with that amount of vacations >tricky ticking time bomb >yuzu eeeeehhh
>>494281 >See members leaving >See fucking Zen leaving Yeah, good luck with that lol
>>494297 I felt like giri was a missed opportunity to be /in/ but that was long ago
Mata still not back eh, fookin obs
everyone is saying we need another henya but can you even think of a current ex-corpo or indie that is as close to vshojo members and unity-pilled?
>>494028 Personally, I don't know about thrive. Vshojo will survive, but they're going to need an injection or some really strong shit to thrive.
>>494319 Who’s this “everyone” you keep speaking of?
>>494313 giri audition video was abysmal bad and by the time she had sorted her shit she already was into gex
>>494319 They don't need to be close to vshojo members. What Vshojo needs is something like EN Nova. + adding some big names to project strength.
>>494330 That’s when I’m talking about when she went to japan and join geex, gun should of made her an offer
>>494341 Giri wanted the jp visa.
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>>494330 >Giri audition video
>>494348 V1 MY LOVE
>>494313 Her audition was horrible >>494348 Also once she pivoted into cooking, she befriended Mayline and that's probably how she got into geex because soon after she started to take constant long trips to Japan probably prepping for the move
>>494348 I love this cringe
>>494357 comparing this with haruka video you can see why she was the one winning. I can only imagine the half baked shit snuffy tried to send.
>Lily Yeah, Zen wants that Gamersupps merch.
>>494372 Literally blew everything up because of flavored drink powder.
>>494341 Glad she didn’t join, now I can watch her rtx
>>494372 Now watch Zen buy that part-ownership because she though that would be a good investment
>>494372 theres no way she still wants in after the two consecutive dramas
>>494392 Anon, you are in a thread that did a collab with the company that was notoriously bad with creators and a racist CEO.
>>494398 dud go back to half.
>>494399 I'm sorry, but GFuel was easily worse than the smite collab
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>>494407 Fat vei... How nostalgic
>>494398 didn't they fire all the worst ones before partnering up with vshojo? or are all the angry schizo "go woke go broke" replies under the promo just a coincidence?
>>494376 It's probably more about the cards.
>>494414 That and previous managers were bad with some creators, see Snuffy. Their partnership with VShojo was likely a reset for them, they even tried to copy GS style of cups, which by what I saw in the community of GFuel (there's an actual one) they weren't so happy because that's the reason why they don't buy GS.
>>494416 the ones no one talk about anymore and need rework?
>>494421 didn't they already rework them once??
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I knew this would happen ever since I made this meme kek. And I suspect it's not over yet.
>>494392 This aside I hope to gad Zen makes no comments to any pol related drama or issues They are gonna eat her alive
>>494384 ??? Kson exists, rtx was never a problem
is anyone watching mata stream? I closed the tab once she threatened of playing evil momo video again. Please tell me when she really start the debut.
Hotarun still tweeting, isn't it late as fuck for her?
>>494432 ?? Giri wouldve never pivot to irls in Japan if she made it in vsj
>>494437 Just tuned in, sounds like she’s revealing the model now
>>494437 She's continuing now.
>MataraKan of Independent still sounds cringe as fuck, why can't she drop it?
>>494466 she likes that joke
>>494466 at this point her own chat keeps reinforce it.
I genuinely think they left because of the group dynamics. Business is a perfect pretense.
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>>494466 being cringe is her brand. Anyways, mata toes again
>>494439 I think she said goes to bed late because of "account work", she's super dilligent with uploading her vods and keeping stuff organized
>>494478 so shes human now?
>>494466 Part of Mata's brand is running jokes into the ground like a piledriver laying the foundations of the Burj Khalifah.
>>494487 More human? still revealing. She transformed in some ways, she’s RPing adjusting to the body changes rn. I didn’t watch the video, I dunno the lore
>>494466 Her cringe-y humor grew on me tbh >>494487 She becomes rounder as she consumes more momos
Henya's small chest mentioned
This is definitely Iron Vertex
ga-dayum
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Green flowers with gold accents, finally some color and contrast
>>494525 >>494522 Looks nice but it seems like the face doesn't fit to me idk why
>>494525 What's with the strange face outline?
>>494545 seems like a small mistake from rigger's part, or Mata messed up with filters
Very nice
>>494549 I hope she can get it fixed, it looks like a douchebag beard lol
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>>494549 Oh man, can’t unsee it now
>>494541 gives off an impression of an ugly doll. Individual features are ok, but as a whole it doesn't look too good.
>>494581 >>494573 yeah it feels like they just took the head of another model and stuck it into this one
>>494583 holy shit i cant unsee that
Yeah Mata is wearing someone's skin like that cockroach from mib
>Merchara time alright, i'm out
"guys the thread is too slow" >monkeys paw curls
>>494665 Oh it will be, with half of EN not streaming.
well cool debut, what now?
>>494681 Back too doomin, i guess? We won't get any new member news at least until Zen leaves. Unless its not the last of this chain of bad news. So, yeah...
>>494622 bad art, good rigging
>>494665 Its not bad at all
>>494699 watching mouse and lud BF suffering is kinda... fun.
>>494678 thank fuck threads here can't get pushed into archive
>>494665 No arguing, no shitflinging, no looping over retarded shit. Shame about circumstances, we actually have (or had) something to talk about.
>>494740 why do i have a new id? oh well
>>494740 honestly while people were dooming and being a bit pessimistic, there was still discussion about zen leaving here. Can't say the same about other places
>>494681 Wait until tomorrow and pray there's no more "announcements", after that we can start guessing the three week mark of when debuts should start getting teased
>>494740 When i realized that halfchan and this thread have pretty much the same level of activity when you remove the samefagging schizo from the other I knew there was no point in double posting anymore, the recent news just made it easier to stay here
>>494756 idk how can you be optimistic when we are having early 2023 2: electric boogaloo all over again
>>494769 i wouldnt go so far as to say 2023 2, given that neither matara, geega or zen are shitting on vshojo or mouse, unlike the indie bitches that being said, VshojoEN is in a rough spot right now
>>494780 i'm saying that as a sense of unity and people parting ways, not them shitting on vshojo
>>494769 >early 2023 2: electric boogaloo all over again ? >zero leavers burned bridges while walking out >only one was an og who still thanked vshojo in the end >we have confirmed new members soon >multiple talents citing big things coming >NOVA seemingly uncovered Honestly aside from all the active members getting sick/having personal shit it could be a whole lot worse
>>494791 well not even that, given that there is unity, just not in EN. Hell, i'd go so far that the only people kinda lacking in unity are mouse, ama and mel (the sleepers don't exist) JP carries in terms of unity.
>>494791 Geega was talking with Geega via (messages) in her last stream the Death Stranding one Also if it comes to unity I'll say Mouse has done a lot in the last 2 weeks I feel like when people say unity they just want everyone to be on VC like Zen has people all the time
>>494816 >Geega was talking with Geega
>>494816 yeah most people crying about unity just look at the way Zen thinks unity is. I'd say that henya reaching out to mouse to talk about her stepbrother's suicide and mouse supporting her *is* a big show of unity. But you don't see that in a vc so people don't care
>>494816 >Geega was talking with Geega
>>494822 >>494827 Fuck had a small stroke there < Mouse was talking with Geega
>>494816 >Geega was talking with Geega
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>>494816 >Geega was talking with Geega via (messages) Holy shit, her RP addiciton has gotten out of hand
>>494816 If people don't see it, they don't count it as unity. It has to be collabs and VC.
>>494838 i like the extra layer this peke image has because she's a bit of an UCfag
>>494826 That's the problem, that nobody sees it, nobody knows what is happening offstream. I remember Henya mentioning that she talks a lot with Kson and Michi, with the latter it was hardly believable considering they had like what, only two 1 on 1 collabs together?
>>494848 hi zen
>>494854 so problem is not lack of unity, but lack of public group projects that talent would want to participate in, like concerts, or shortform rp events, or minecraft server and we are looping
>>494826 Jesus Christ anon, be more subtle
>>494848 I mean we had Haruka, Henya, Geega, Michi in a way until she got sick so it was cancelled but they had this model swap thing, Kuro if you count yesterday(but she has been active in his chat) Has been telling Mel we should play games idk what else people want besides them being in constant VC with her and Mouse is not the kidnap type of person
fuck unity, just fucking stream.
Question, is Geega still in VShojo?
>>494883 *vague
>>494884 >being in constant VC That's it. Either they're in VC constantly and in collabs or it's not unity. Not my belief, but that's what the sentiment seems to be.
>>494883 i don't get orders from a filthy (1)
>>494891 till midnight lol
>>494896 Alright, i guess one more thread with her. Didn't expect this one to fly by in one day. lol
>>494891 was geega in vshojo since gtarp addiction?
>>494893 that's the definition of unity Zen built with her + clique and is what stuck maybe now that she's gone and vshojo needs to basically rebuild its entire culture again because it was completely centered on what Zen defined, we can go back to a more grounded definition of unity
>>494895 >>494901 Oh come on bruh
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>>494769 Not really, I think this isn't like the exodus, that one showed that some of the girls genuinely only saw each other as coworkers rather than the idea of friends they would say they were. They didn't cut it and dried that they will still be friends. This one feels more like VShojo (the group) and VShojo (the company) are in this weird problem together, but it's the company that needs to get their shit together, not the group. It's a bit quoting what Michi's tarot about VShojo said, but yeah, they do need to reevaluate and figure it out why are their talents leaving, and what can they learn from it. Not sit back and say "well fuck them I guess", see that their decisions over the business have genuinely strangled what once was a great come back after a great time. VShojo could have focused on helping Zen with the timer, see how to work out with Matara and GEEGA's way of doing business, or even as minimal as making a server. As for the fanbase, getting into stupid rrat discussions or getting tribalistic about this is idiotic. None of the girls have demonstrated any sort of bad blood, and yes, if you want to say just "mouse" well, let her be. I don't genuinely feel like Zen, Mata or GEEGA blames Mouse, otherwise Zen would have not invited her to be a part of such an important song for her, Mata would not still talking highly of her or GEEGA chatting with her. Hell I even remember some people accusing Matara after Michi vagueposted about a friend, when it was not the case, or that Matara doesn't talk to anyone, when she was happily talking to Henya offstream. Anyway, VShojo the company needs to get their shit together, for the future of the talents in there or the soon to be. Momo out.
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>>494902 yeah who could've predicted that
>>494903 No and thats the tragedy of it, we only got prime geega for a couple of months until nopixel ruined her
>>493610 How do you know this? Is this true?
>>494913 <(1) <doesn't watch streams you won't get shit from me fag
>>494906 yeah because for me unity means referencing each other here and there having a little bit of banter A collab once in a while like once every 2 weeks or so But I feel people want a EN version of NobaNova all the time as a version of unity
>>494909 i read all that and you are right, hope they can bounce back from this
>>494925 Sorry I have a job unlike you
>>494936 She talked about it after the sponsor, if you are curious
>>494912 i will forever blame sykkuno for this dark episode in vshojo's history him inviting geega to nopixel was the first domino
>>494909 >people accusing Matara after Michi vagueposted about a friend I'm still convinced that was about Mata. There was nothing about hating this anonymous friend, just talking about how they were extremely ambitious and Michi didn't want to "hold them back". There was also some more negative stuff but that wasn't even necessarily talking about the same person. If anyone has any better theory for who it could be about, let me know, but of Michi's friends, none of the others really fit the bill.
>>494909 well said momo
>get home >time to finally watch that sonch vod >look at thread Guess I'll put my two cents in. I think Zen's making a dumb decision. But it's done so oh well. Curry time.
>>494936 unless you are living in jp or SEA nice graveyard shift bro.
>>494967 21:46 on her on stream clock, trust me
>>494909 None of the Mouse shit about bad blood has any basis in reality. It is some fanfic conjured up in the minds of Mouse dedicated anti's just trying to sour Mouse's reputation on half because they are jealous of the attention she gets.
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baker-san get baking poyapoya
>>494967 Enjoy the VOD, she said it was delicious. Also she got Tangia, get used to it.
>>494967 kson curry was nice
MIGRATE >>494980 >>494980 >>494980 MIGRATE
>>494969 Get a job too nigger
>>494936 Nobody knows who died, just that they were family and she already went to the funeral. She said she doesn't want to talk about it "because she'd cry".
>>494967 As a Gecko I think it's a pretty dumb decision as well, her growth with Vshojo was huge and she benefitted a lot from the brand.
>>493924 >>493951 >>493975 I've observed that after having members leave the org, VShojo would have more space to debut new members. Hopefully this time it is the exact reason why new members were taking this long and that we will see them soon either on July or August.


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