We right now...

is this fuckass thread going to give me green again

>>547914 you know what i'm fine with this

Rolll

Rolling for a hopeful color

>>547912 How did you make this ? This is so cool also roll

>>547921 I have no idea what this means

Easiest copium for me is that no matter what happens, I can keep watching my favorites and they will keep collabing together. (except Zen would rather spend time with Papamutt and Sigrid, than all her V friends). The fact that Michi, Henya, Mel, Kuro, Haruka, and Hime made no post on her leaving seems to speak volumes regarding what happened.

>>547924 you are new hm? We used to do it a lot back in the day. Always created funny phrases.

>>547935 I guess I didnt pay much attention then

>>547924 https://catalog.neet.tv/harlequin.html

>>547912 a troubling premonition

>>547912 Oh you're bring the word cloud back, just like old times also Rolling

>>547933 Yeah I wonder what the fuck happened there, maybe the gfuel deal was more serious than we thought

rolling

>>547924 hello new friend

>>547948 Maybe she fucked the Gfuel deals for everyone when she backed out of it ?

>>547948 >>547953 it seems so they talked about making flavors for everyone. Zen probably soured the deal bad to everyone.

>>547953 if anything the gfuel deal wouldve been fucked with matara being fired while she was set to get a flavor of her own

>>547943 note it doesn't accept 8chan source it's not hard to convert though it thinks anything in blockquotes with an attribute is a post

Rolling

>>547956 mata was fired early march the deal was last year.

Our savior will come in the form of a megane member

>>547948 GFuel right now is in weird spot. The only thing you can buy is those hydration packs, Vol 2 is still in unknown limbo, Geega/Mata had no idea what will happen to this collaboration.

>>547968 Basically shits fucked, and nobody knows shit.

>>547912 Word clouds are back on the menu!

>>547968 a dumb bitch going full menhera to cancel her code and telling everyone to use code heavenly on gs probably didn't made them happy.

>>547983 i missed them

>>547988 keyfags?

>>547985 Look how quickly things go to shit

>>547997 no, word clouds we have much, much better keyfags in the form of otakuchangs now

I'm happy that a bunch of has stuck to this site, I can't even look at ex without wanting to puke...I was gonna say something sappy but I don't wanna sound weird but basically thanks for sticking together like a community

https://x.com/kurootina1120/status/1943495792112923024 peke joinng a k4sen academy collab tonight jst/tomorrow morning est

>>548008 Yeah ex has become a trashdump. Every catalog thread sucks and most of the good posters left. No matter what our oshis will still be here without VShojo. Let us keep supporting them with or without the pink V!

>>548008 they couldn't get rid of us then and they won't get rid of us now. Vshojo could crumble completely tomorrow but as long as my oshi exists I will still be here posting

Holy cornball

>>548022 she has a name you know

>>548008 Things might be rough right now, but I’m grateful to have this little corner where I can talk about the VTubers I love with or without VShojo. And more than anything, I’m really thankful to have all of you here through it all

i really wish henya and ari played peak together. They are hilarious together.

Rolling for my wife

rolling

>>548039 Purple retards lets go

I love Mouse

I have to head out for a little(buy weed) but thanks guys, I've been around since 2021 and not sure how many oldfags are still around but we're going though rough times and we'll be ok, we always will

>>548089 I've been watching since late 2021, I really want to say that this is "2023-2" all over again, but it definitely feels way worse. Hope they can rebound.

Henya fucking died

Is the game really this unstable? This is like 3rd time stream crashing out

henya being blessed by windows 11... GOD i miss windows 7

>>548016 Yeah! Our Oshis will still be around even if things come to a close. As long as they're around I'm going nowhere.

<chat i might have to finish in here im so sorry henyHenyaCry henyHenyaCry henyHenyaCry henyHenyaCry henyHenyaCry It's over

>>548121 it's windows 11. I saw an update yesterday and i paused it. No way i will get an update before the internet tell me what is the catch. Last time they broke easycheat game guard and it blue screen any game using it

>>548128 i was having fun...

I don't think i'm dooming because i don't care THAT much but it's definitely frustrating to have 0 comunication from vshojo or gunrun, i like to have a group to rotate between kinda connected streamers but i'll just follow my favourites in the new cliques they get into if vshojo actually dies. side note, as someone who followed 5 of the OGs before Vshojo was even a thing i think they are handling this shit worse than anything so far including the *** shit

>>548159 I agree, but it seems like it's all hands-on deck behind the scenes. We can only wait and see. What we can do now is to keep watching our Oshis and hope for the best.

>>548159 >>548187 there is always the chance of gunrun stepping down too. He is gone for a bit too long

I would like a bright color to inspire hope for the future

>>548195 I wouldn't be surprised at this rate. He's probably been stuck handling tons of business behind the scenes if he's going to hand off.

>>548187 >seems like it's all hands-on deck i refuse to believe they don't have 20 minutes to put out 4 sentences to reassure the fans or give some update on the direction of the company, even some useless bullshit like "we are downscaling to improve on X and Y" would be way better than complete silence

>>548200 the fact he didn't showed up for mouse walk around twice really bothered me. He was always there.

>>548195 i've been wondering if the problem is actually gunrun with how he's nowhere to be seen and no one can talk about what is going on, also co founder left and panini who was basically gunrun sidekick left too, a google dockey wouldn't surprise me at this point

>>548159 same, lets see I do hope we have more news good/bad before Mouse anniversary on the first week of August I think I just wish whatever is happening, just rip off the band aid already this shit of news every 3 weeks is making it worst

>>548212 >a google dockey wouldn't surprise me at this point Thats going a bit too far, if things were that dire mouse would have left already

>>548212 NIGGA YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE PHASE CEO LOOKS LIKE.HE'S JUST AN AVATAR. TAKE YOUR RETARDED PHASENIGGER RRATS AND FUCK OFF;

No novanoba this week

ya'll need to chill. Nobody knows anything, looping same rrats and doomposts for the 100th time won't help. Just temper your expectations for company related stuff for now and focus more on individual talents. Not like there's been a sudden change, we've been increasingly over this for the past year.

Henya ended and thread got a little weird while I was gone, damn

>>548287 i mean panini leaving/getting laid off is pretty doompost worthy ngl but yea people are getting into the insanity conspiracy levels of the doomspiral now haha

>>548291 Anon is losing his temper, its understandable

>>548291 An anon got a bit sentimental and hopeful and I guess that was too much for the doomposter lol

>>548291 What no henya does to a mf

>>548298 yeah that sentimental anon was me lol

Guys gunrun is secretly an alien

>>548304 He's part of the deep state

>>548305 yeah the deep state vshojo is in at the moment deep in shit

Gunrun got deported

Gunrun was Vei all along

Gunrun gave peke all of vshojo's liquidity to bet on the Takarazuka Kinen last june and if you saw the stream, you know how that went

Pink rat will be cute and sex no matter what happens that is all that's important

So do some anons want Gun to do some weirdo Riku shit and call the leavers negatable or maybe a black screen stream? lol I can't with some you of doomposters, shit is just funny to me...whatever I'm chilling

>>548360 I think what they’re hoping for is for Gun to say it’ll all be okay, or to say it's over. Right now, we don't even know what's going on. Whatever happens, our girls will be okay even Nova. I've also decided to stop worrying and just chill.

>>548391 Same, nothing we can do about than the watch and support the girls. They'll be fine, even nova should be able to carry on. Heck JP seems like things are more stable than EN.

>>548391 It would be weird AF if he came out and said everything will be ok, he didn't do that in 2023 so why would he do that now? Saying nothing is the best move now

>>548404 but he did... Henya lore.

>>548432 What? I haven't seen that since she debuted but I'm don't remember any kind reassurance part, he was just narrating it

I hope this was the last of the bad news for this year.

>>548453 anon the fact they were debuting her was enough. Gunrun even narrated the video KEK

>>548458 I think you're a little lost in the sauce

>>548462 and i think you were not around when that 3 left and every day was doomposting and retards baiting. The henya lore showed us that every was ok and they were still working. Right now we have nothing but people leaving left and right since april.

>>547961 Ah my fetish

>>548475 I was around, and narrating a video doesn't mean he's really saying there there everything will be ok

>>548008 Cheers for that

>>548487 anon are you autistic?

>>548322 Where's that first one from? It's a very nice style but I don't remember seeing it before

>>548494 I'm not sure why you're being so aggressive and I get what you're trying to say, you think him narrating the henya lore videos was some kind of reassure metaphor but it really wasn't imo

>>548517 anon i just saying him narrating the lore was funny. They showing us that they were still working was enough. Now we have nothing but bad news after bad news and mouse crying all day.

>>548521 yeah but henya debuted 3 weeks after the 3 leavers left you have to give time, zen's final day it today so chill out a little

sorry I can't type right now lol I'm too fucking high lol

>>548529 zen final day was marked by panini leaving anon.

>>548529 That's my final cope too.

>>548568 ok

>>548529 I hope so to, the org is literary on its last straw I don't think it can tank another talent leaving If some else who is a big part of it is leaving good news better happen the next day Anyways at the end of the day that's for the org but the girls will still be out there I only worry about the purple retards and the NOVAs how are they gonna survive

When morale is low, you know what helps? A nice Michi stream... I miss her

>>548641 well everyone is offline now I think Hotaru is gonna stream around 3pm jst looking at her last tweet

Pink please!

>>548746 Purple like Michi!

Hotaru live Duolingo, then dave the diver

So, both our red talents love One Piece and made it their theme. Hotaru is an Admiral of a Demon Navy while Kuro is a Pirate.

Hotaru has a surprise collab tomorrow

>>548773 Really cool with the UMG sign up and the Radio Appearance. Maybe NOVA is an example that they should emulate for EN side. I think even bigger indies would value having things like this happen for them.

>>548778 I'm really excited for them, hopefully they work super hard. Also the date is wrong, it'supposed to be today at 9PM

Its fucking over https://youtu.be/bIBx0Ly90Bk?si=SUYIeTrWGW0E3WmZ

>>548785 >hopefully they work super hard *they work super hard. i'm sleepy.

>>548787 >>548785 3 out of the 4 members stream around the same number of hours as Zen and Mouse. Hestia streamed nearly 90 hours for the past month despite having a RL job. Hard Work is no problem.

>>548791 >>548788

>>548778 EN can bounce back. They need to pickup talents that aren't just normal streamers with goals and dreams that vshojo can really capitalize on. At Vshojos core what do they offer? Especially with agencies that offer sponsors, and deals. Outside of the brand it doesn't have much. I think Vshojo needs to help fund dreams, push for cool shit like UMG and find people that have ambitious goals and love Vshojo. People like Froggy, and Mei would have been perfect.

Everything is going to be alright.

>>548773 >July 11 (Fri) 9PM JST (fixed) https://x.com/nova_vshojo/status/1943562007753695717

UNIVOLT Starry Connection has over 10k views now. I'm guessing the YouTube Algorithm is pushing it now.

>>548787 >500 tons of Froot

>>548871 Thank god

>>548871 It was roughly at half of that yesterday. And now it's already at 15k+ Crazy how important the algo really is on youtube.

I guess panini was the source of the oofs and what Mouse was crying about this week. I guess all we can do is hope that's the end of it, but since it's been one after the other so far that hope is wearing thin. It really seems like the company is imploding.

Hotaru done for the day Tomorrow collab at noon, then optcg watchalong at 4 PM

Kuro live

>>548968 Wtf i guess he already move to the new place?

>>548975 Nah. He just happened to be at his office and decided to stream while he's there.

>>548976 Oh i see

Some Mei sloppa I promised to post yesterday.

Mouse tweeting a bunch of cryptic-ass shit

>>548981 Fuck that LORA is good.

>>548010 Pomu

after an okay sleep I came to conclusion that shit's not that bad. Something needed to change with org, and that's what you get when that change happens. But rrat about illegal stuff and plausible deniability in previous thread is very compelling ROLLING

>>548985 Yup, too bad that these are the only images of this set I have. Mei's model is sexo.

>>549005 We have no idea how bad it is because nobody has explained what's happening beyond that everyone's leaving.

>>549005 This is copium

with panini gone is the audition still going? will they debut?

>>549020 Bro we will be lucky to keep the members we have right now

Crazy schizo theory that i got in my dream >February 2025, Mint launches https://store.ghostmaid.cafe/, looks very similar to VShojo store >Also in receipts it says "VShojo store" for like an hour, then it gets fixed >People notice that, start asking questions >Someone in VShojo starts investigating >Turns out Matara and staff members (MTD, Poshie, OMGElsie, Panini) were helping Mint, and with that they broke some important NDA / leaked company secrets >VShojo takes a painful decision not to renew contracts of all people involved in this mess >Matara terminated >Geega says "I'm sorry" in Mata's termination tweet, and makes a decision to leave VShojo early in some kind of solidarity with those people leaving, she felt responsible too >Zen decision was heavily influenced by this situation, but that was not a sole reason why she left >Now we are here >Crew gutted, auditions in limbo, no tech people left to even take care of mc server ok i'm done, schizo out inb4 it was actually some boring and stupid reason

Peke amogus

>>549033 Finally i can use this slop

>>549033 I subscribe to this rrat.

>>549033 It's not that crazy. There's really no other good reason to terminate Matara and things didn't look bad at all until that happened. I too think that this current situation was mostly caused by whatever Matara did.

>>549033 Try including Michi's rant about people being too overly ambitious.

>>549033 It’s boring enough to be believable

>>549062 I absolutely believe Geega and Zen was at least partially related to Mata. But Panini? Maiko?

>>549078 Panini was Director of Talent, come on. And why Maiko? He hasn't left, yet.

Today is Zen’s last day. I wish her all the best in the future, but you know what I hate the most about this whole situation? The way she handled her falling out with Mouse. She didn’t have to unfollow her on Twitter now it just fuels speculation. Yesterday I saw that rrat break containment. People were saying wild things about Mouse, and I even saw forbidden knowledge being thrown around. I hate that people feel the need to take sides over something neither of them has addressed publicly.

>>549081 I don't see any reason Panini would be particularly involved with Mata. She wasn't even involved in her hiring, gun did that directly himself. Maiko hasn't announced anything but he took VShojo out of his Twitter bio.

>>549083 Did he have it in his bio before that to begin with?

To all the redditniggers who lurk this thread to mine for information, have you considered killing yourself? Like just putting a shotgun in your mouth and pulling the trigger?

amogus?

>>549082 They still haven't figured out that you can REMOVE a follow from somebody else, which is most like what zen did. They assume that they mutually unfollowed, but zen probably either blocked (which auto-unfollows) or removed the follow herself, going full zenhera.

>>549094 Redditors are afraid of this site

>>549090 I think so but I can't find anything on the wayback machine to confirm. It's definitely changed, it used to have something about people calling him "mom".

>>549106 They're afraid of 4chan, we're new and have yet to form an impression.

It seems like Panini's departure was mostly amicable. No reply from gun (does this guy even exist?) but she got a drinking invitation from highgai as well as a friendly response from SirScoots, who's gun's old friend from the Twitch early days and runs a company (Do Not Peek) that has some sort of partnership with VShojo and is involved in managing Mouse.

>>549033 Fuck it, sure >>549107 yay more dooming

>>549033 I actually believe this, since it's a bit odd that mint or vshojo (as far as I know) didnt announce that vshojo is helping mint with merch, and the fact that the dates line up nicely (i think the merch page open mid feb? And mata got told she is being soft terminated at like march 4th or something)

>>549033 Does it natch with Michi's tarot readings?

>>549115 It was a Valentines Day merch drop, so 14th

>>549109 >he doesn't know

>>549033 >Crazy schizo actually sounds reasonable and boring enough

>>549115 Late January is also when the new website was launched so maybe there was an opportunity during that time for mata to get access to the code.

>>549033 If (big if) that's the case Matara is an even bigger idiot than I thought

>>549115 The site is still up, you can literally buy shit on it. If this were really a big no-no it would have been taken down, they took down Mata's shop and even made her take all the excess merch.

>>549115 The only thing that doesn't add up is important vshojo staff like panini risking their jobs for a non-member like that

>>549135 https://x.com/paninivsj/status/1797496001928065342/ not really first time she helps her out

>>549128 An idiot with a good heart. Could also be connected to her saying she didnt think she did anything wrong but she understand

>>549143 >paninivsj Soon to be paninifromindependent.

>>549107 >it used to have something about people calling him "mom". proud cat mom or smth

>>549147 lol

>>549145 If VShojo blew up their entire company over a merch store, aren't they the real idiots?

NOVA radio interview started.

>>549135 people do dumb stuff all the time not considering the possible consequences or thinking it isn't a big deal but also its entirely possible it's not really directly related at all people moving on from positions like that never surprises me sometimes life changes, new relationships, new focuses, old nonsense adds up, the current position doesn't offer anything interesting, etc it's easy from the outside to point at things happening at the same time and go "look at all this stuff, it's definitely related!" but the real relation might just be that the company seems like it's struggled with a strong vision of the future which is what normally stops the bleed and regularly replaces what can't be stopped with new blood

>>549155 >can't open website outside Japan >turn on jp vpn >download app to listen fuck this

>>549156 >people moving on from positions like that never surprises me Panini's departure is a bit out of the ordinary. She doesn't have another job lined up and is putting out feelers for management contracts in her announcement. So she was either let go, or she decided she needed to get out of there NOW even if it meant becoming unemployed.

>>549167 see line one

>>549072 So much Meicha porn lately. >>549159 Praying for a reupload.

>>549155 This the type of dude that cuck the main character by fucking his childhood friend in hentai

>>549192 not feeding shippers btw

>>549033 stupid enough to be believable.

>>549192 Still not a huge fan of this shipping thing

>>549277 it started as a bit but they are too dependent of each other now... Ooof

>>549277 Same, I genuinely don't like shipping as content.

I've been thinking about Froot and now I'm bricked up

>>549303 I'm HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-ing and gooning at the same time

twitch is being ass to me right now,m can't watch peke unless it's with low latency off and in 480p

>>549082 I lost all respect for zen with how she handled this situation and the fact that it broke containment makes it worse. And mouse is too kind and professional to defend herself

>>549348 dont worry she now has her great friend Sigrid who will 100% not backstab her at the first opportunity

Ts ass gang 🥀

>>549348 idk what is happening with zen right now to be this menhera to the point of blocking mouse, but im worried for both

>>549363 ngl associating with Sigrid for me was what took it from "she's gonna be fine" to "oh, this is a slow crash out"

I thought k4sen is good at LoL. Why is he missing half his cs?

>>549370 zen is being erratic for months now, we created so many excuses for it like "it's her father, it's her dogs..." but jesus christ.

>>549082 Jesus let me guess somewhere in reddit?

>>549376 yeah that "friendship" does not sit well with me Feel bad for her and does not realized shes getting used by those 2, they are unironically trying to become the next Ari

>>549392 Yes I was curious and I even saw that shit on the vshojo subreddit

>>549370 If their friendship really has ended, they both unironically need to address it the way Katie did with Froot. This kind of thing will hurt them in the future if it keeps boiling

>>549406 >address it the way Katie did with Froot are you kidding me? thats the worst thing katie could have done considering she knows how schizo her antis are, personal relationships are not chat's business especially since friendships can mend in time. Zen fucked up by soft blocking mouse and drawing attention to it instead of just moving on like normal

Another loss for Peke.

>>549411 Now that the cat's out of the bag, the only way forward is to be open.But I agree with you zen should I have stayed silent in the first place

>>549396 just went to check And the Panini post the replies half are basically mouse doesn't fallow zen lol and yes it seems like a lot of containment breakers since there are alot of speculations i've seen here and in half didn't find the forbidden info in the vsj reddit tho so thats good I guess or didnt look hard enough

>>549406 yeah no, my opinion about katie soured to the point i leave stream if she is there and now watching her being all over fufu really irk me. How about act like a real adult and just move on? Fuck, mouse was still following silver last time i checked.

>>549411 yeah that would be the worst possible way It'll just basically make the communities fight and become toxic towards each other unless someone did something really really terrible

>>549411 Unless the intent was to put the blame on mouse. Because right now most of the conversation is that mouse was in the wrong about this (because they assume she unfollowed as well)

>>549421 giving retarded antis what they want is not the way to go, and like i said its possible they can make up in the future so confirming it publicly while mouse is already in a bad place mentally is not doing anyone favors since this has nothing to do with actual controversy that would need to be addressed like harassment or bullying, friends fall out all the time. Let the schizos cry out all they want, personal friendships are none of their business

>>549443 subhumans don't use twitch. They would notice that mouse still promotes zen.

>>549443 yeah like thius guy said >>549455 most of the people talking about now are just drama fags that watch neither and they just want the tea

speaking of menhera, zen live

the mouse/zen rrat is only getting traction because there's literally nothing else to go off on right now for antis. So far everyone has left extremely professionally and given 0 material for dramafags to milk out of, so since theres no specific thing to blame all of this on like the niji shitshow or holo "disagreements with management" they have to make up a reason to hate someone, anyone. Once everything eventually passes (and it will whether more people leave or not), this sad excuse for "drama" will be forgotten because you can't really make content off of "omg gee they unfollowed each other!11" for that long. Addressing it only gives the public an excuse to harass mouse or any other members anytime they suspect they're not besties with someone

>>549465 Yeah but your oshi plays league so there's that.

>>549465 yeah pretty much

Henya's sponsor today will be Mecha Break

>>549465 >the mouse/zen rrat is only getting traction because there's literally nothing else to go off on right now for antis. Isn't it the opposite? There's so much for them to go on, with three people departing over a couple weeks and fears of worse to come, that Zen/Mouse is getting attention where it would otherwise be ignored.

>>549470 FUCK NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN

>>549470 gonna max out the tits

>>549471 by "nothing else to go off on" i mean theres no specific thing they can blame this on, sure a lot of people are leaving but no one is making tweets about almost committing an hero and leaked chats about harassment like niji or hinting at finally being "free" from oppressive management like notgura. The fact that all the leavers have still cited their gratefulness to vshojo and not talked shit about the org or the members is what's confusing these idiots that they have to resort to "le evil clique queen mouse is at fault for this" because they have no other rrat to go off on

>>548871 It's over 20k now in just a couple of hours

>>549488 wtf How ? just because of the interview ?

my break is about to end I'll catch up later

>>549498 you underestimate jp love for "the new thing".

>>549498 youtube algorithm finally noticing it, im guessing most nova vids don't make that much traction since their content is primarily on twitch

>>549498 My guess is either yt algo or UMG promoting it somewhere

>>549521 Wouldn't be surprised if algo is promoting it since it's a UMG video. Youtube has special deals with record labels, Youtube gets the views and UMG gets the promotion. Win-Win

>>549535 curious how it got picked up only after 6 days, youtube algo works in mysterious ways

>>549033 I am very sorry for infecting your dreams anon with the ratt from my corporate addled mind. And now you gave me another piece that forgot and it fits. Its not the Mint store per se, its the payment method. Mata while helping Mint out with getting get all setup probably had MTD help set up the store page and then Mata used the fucking merchant link from the Mint and Matara summer podcast. An account that was probably kept open because she kept claiming it was coming back. I can see Mata asking her manager who did not know if they could ask the head (Panini) and get an ok. Poshie who should have caught it, failed. The store goes up and the Mint and VSJ threads all laughed because at payment it said vshojo store, I remember that BS now. The problem? if you accept money for anyone on their behalf you have to sign a legally binding contract. That one for the summer podcast had to be over when it ended.

oh my fucking god

I'm so happy to see nova doing good, they're all so talented and nice, the original getting picked up by the algo has unironically made me happier than any vshojo news in the last few months

This collab>>548767 is apex with Hesti and Takoko, tomorrow at 12:30

>>549537 YT Algo works in mysterious ways.

>>549542 This whole thing is stupid, I'm starting to believe it

>>549542 im still skeptical about panini being involved in this bc wouldn't she have been let go then at the same time mata, mtd and the other artists did? why did they let her stay till now?

>>549558 What is better for your public image, let the contracts expire and let them go one by one, or terminate everyone involved in one swing?

>>549558 It can range from keeping the company clean because she gave the ok, but is not a lawyer or deals with merch to know better. To she feels guilty for getting a lot of people fired over her not knowing the proper answer.

>>549544 look, these three gonna open up Independent talent agency, and you'll see how funny that joke was in retrospect

>>549569 if doki, mint, dooby, etc are the indie avengers then what do we call the ex-vshojos?

>>549572 The Thunderbolts?

>>549572 minuses

>>549569 We went from an agency pretending to be independent (Mythic) to an agency named Independent. Might as well at this point, it's not that much of a leap

>>549572 ticking time bombs

>>549572 The Suicide Squad

Let’s see who responds to zen tweet

peke is probably taking off tomorrow since there's no novanoba

>>549572 I saw someone in Dooby's chat unironically using Indie Avengers, is it really that hard not to break containment?

>>549569 Don't forget Nyanners is also now doing the Independent schtick

>>549605 hope she gets some rest

>>549606 It's so cringe. Life isn't a Marvel movie

>>549602 i like this one hehe

>>549606 was that on youtube? no one reads chat on youtube unless it's supa

>>549470 isn't that the game when you goon to hot girls in the lobbyy and then goon to mechas during matches?

Is there a chance that Henya is going to play mecha break with Zen ?

he sucks at jorking it according to peke and noruju

Forgive me Father, for I have sinned. I watched Parrot so that I could be reassured that as bad as things are in VShojo right now, Niji still has some way fucking spicier people in it. With what I have seen, I have hope that we will persevere

>>549646 >I watched Parrot

>>549646 What’s there to compare, the girls own their IP and will be fine. Again, only thing I worry is JP and they seem insulated… for now

>>549646 Oh how low...

>>549643 Zero. On top of that, isn't sponsors require you to play solo?

>>549646 jesus fucking christ anon but yeah like i said aside from all the people leaving we're still in a better spot than the corpo currently protecting a predator and having a graduation queue

>>549660 Nope. She's playing with Geega today.

peke ending and raiding the guy she sexpests

>>549671 Really? Anyone else mentioned?

>>549674 >mecha break with zen and maybe some other friends

>>549671 Where did you get this information?

>>549678 >other friends her rp friends anon

>>549678 Uh, where is Henya?

>>549678 That sucks for henya then

>>549679 it's on geeg's discord

>>549694 anon she is talking about garek. There is 0 chances that henya will play with her

>>549694 >maybe some other friends it's nopixel fags, she would say outright if it was Henya

Odd that Zen said MORE people want to work with her now merch wise now that she is gone from vshojo

>>549701 >>549703 i know, i just answered the anon who asked where did they get the geega info

>>549704 why? /out/ buff is active, all eyes on her

>>549704 Of course. It's easier to fleece big indies with fewer layers of protection.

i love mouse and michi chibis but this one looks a lot more cute

Well there you go Zen want to start her own company

>>549711 yeah just look at how bao gets scammed twice every year

>>549711 This. Prepare for Zen to have a Bao moment some time in the coming months.

>>549704 bullshit

>>549713 Froot has one of those onaholes

>>549715 >>549704 It's good to remember that zen is a notorious liar (look at her twitter stories) and has a constant need for validation. Time will tell how much is actually true and what isn't.

>>549715 You mean a company where she recruits all her 2view orbiters friends and vtweeters? I can surely see that going perfectly well. /s

>>549715 she cant even manage her daily life how is she going to manage her own company kek

>>549713 Naaah michi models is way cuter

>>549715 Wait...is this the "ambition" that was foretold?

>>549728 Maybe she will hire geega as a manager kek

>>549711 this, any company looking to advertise will ask if you're big enough, but the reason agencies/managers exist is to filter out the good deals from one who will fuck you over with a bad contract

>>549727 best timeline unironically

>>549715 fucking called it as soon as she kept shoving those unfunny 2view application rejects down our throats

>>549715 someone is about to have a rude awakening and it will be 10 times worse that the youtube and kick fiasco. Not our problem anymore

>>549733 that would be the one smart thing zen can do but if geega said vshojo couldn't afford her for that position i have doubts about zen

>>549752 well geega better accept the pennies or zen will go menhera and block her on all socmed

>>549715 im a doubter but i'll be glad to be proven wrong

>>549739 Zen’s thunderbolts*

zen is really desperate too be relevant. She will do stupid things like cry over the youtube for not giving her enough numbers or try to stream on kick because "twitch is closing". Zen is that person who was poor once and will do anything to not be poor again the problem is that zen lack the skills to do so

>>549715 Kek. She would go insane.

so I guess Lily deal was really this bad

>>549792 i think GS has a lot more internal problem to deal than zenhera.

>>549792 Qrd ?

>>549792 can u elaborate i was watching mei

>>549797 I believe that problems for Zen specifically started around when gfuel deal was brought and she was hard against because she was secretly negotiating with GS at a time. Thing is, GS would be interested to pull resources on Zen, but only as leverage to entire vsj org. Now, leverage is off the table. She'll probably pair up with GS anyway, but deal won't be for part ownership and toaster merch anymore: code, flavor, maybe cup. btw that other rrat about mint store also would fit why Zen was eager to go free

>>549808 I don’t understand why they’d want Zen to be a part-owner just as leverage over the rest of the org that doesn’t make sense to me. Zen is also a pretty huge content creator, so it would be dumb on their part to give her just a cup or a flavor idk

>>549646 >I'm addicted to crack, so I watched the homeless guy OD on ketamine to make myself feel better

>>549811 she was really looking forward to vcard (lol), and there were other signs she is looking into diversifying, but I really don't keep every little detail why part-ownership rrat was so popular. Anyway that's how I'd do it if I were orca - find a point of weakness (Zen), network it so she then convinces everyone else to partner with you. Mel had not very positive experience with GS previously so it'd be hard to mend bridges otherwise that's what voices in my head telling me

>>549836 >why part-ownership rrat was so popular. Partial ownership means partial profits. A check in the mail with minimal effort on a high level. Zen has for the last few years been hard focused on legacy and a continued return after she either soft or hard retires. A healthy youtube channel means a check coming in every month. Partial ownership in a powder company means the same.

>>549839 now I checked, it was timing. Because Sinder became part owner at the start of year, after Zen had started her crashout phase about some big good thing falling through around xmas it's all speculation and we'll never know full truth

>>549855 Man, everything is speculation until a document comes out or leaks. Everything. The only real facts we have surrounding any of this is that Zen have left Vshojo. That is the one single true fact of the matter.

https://x.com/Iwasora123/status/1942225054072447191 WiP

>>549713 This style of chibi is my favorite.

been thinking about that Frock

>>549924 Tell me more

>>548494 >

The only thing I don't understand is why Zen's friends make Mei the butt of the the joke.

I'm having a somewhat sonchy day today I hope everyone is well

>>549994 that's Zen subjecting pink vtubers to torture

>>549995 this day has been the opposite of sonchy for me i feel so low energy and a bit anhedonic thankfully work has finished for the week and i can idk go to bed

>>549994 I just turn off stream when sigrid is there

>>549994 Sigrid and Bird are a couple, so they will pick a target. When the target doesn't fight back hard enough, the rest of the call sees that as a sign that they're ok with it. Thus the torture begins. It's grade school level bully tactics.

>>550005 Why is Zen ok with this?

>>550011 There have been a few times Zen has been wildly ignorant of other people being uncomfortable with something, so my guess is straight up she's not noticing the problem

>>550018 >she's not noticing the problem This is a trend.

i wouldn't be surprised if this is another pet project zen abandons halfway like the time she wanted to fund a vtuber from the ground up

>>550027 >fund a vtuber from the ground up Last we heard, she's still working on that one, but hasn't found the appropriate target yet. How? I do not know.

>>549465 This otakuchango knows

>>549808 It's just a tiny deeper than that. Gamersupps, like Mythic, has a special tier above the cup/flavor stuff reserved only for top indies with a proven track record when it comes to moving merch. Once you're in that tier they can set up a merch line for you (look at how quickly and reliable stuff like vcards and waifucups ship out), they can set up a store and will even provide partial management services and event sponsorship. Also that one controversial fox girl was bragging that she pulled in 160k from her split of the gamersupps merch drop and it's easy to see why Zen would not only push to be a GS partner, but also want to rope in the rest of Vshojo on board. Which i can see Vshojo declining because that's not Zen's job and she's been extremely pushy recently and trying to dictate the company's direction (auditions anyone?) <tldr: Zen wanted Vshojo to push for Gamersupps so she can make money and get merch shipped on time for the rest of the group but company told her she wasn't the boss which caused a melty

Please don't tell me my showerthought theory I wrote from my phone is getting traction

>>550050 All theories get traction, you idiot.

If Zen keeps wanting to collabing with Sigrid then that's a no for me dawg. If this is the best she's got as friends, then watch her viewership fall.

Zen was acting out since the late half of last year. Remember that long time people had gone around saying zen and mouse were fighting or something? Zen forced this shitty 2 viewers audtion, had a meltdown because of her gfuel code, got "angry" that henya didn't replied her call once... Zen need help

>>550082 Mei left the collab and was visibly a bit upset this time around. Feel bad for her

>>550082 poor mei, she deserves better, the worst thing is that mei is so used to be abused she will not even fight back.

>>550083 Most VTubers need help, and even when VShojo offers to pay for therapy, they still don't get it. ...I'm still not over Henya never being to therapy, when she's needed that shit for her personal trauma she got BEFORE becoming a streamer, let alone the trauma that came after

>>550088 I can see how zen and mouse friendship had fallen apart now.

mei needs to stop hanging out with those people for a bit, it can't be healthy for her mental

ooofff.... Mei said she had a bit of ptsd attack

Shame on Zen for letting this happen. A friend to all is a friend to no one. She has no guts to say no to bitches like Sigrid. I won't be surprised if Meicha never comes to anymore of Zen's collab and instead start collabing with Mouse. Then Zen is gonna have a menhera moment and block Meicha for no longer collabing with her and instead collabing with Mouse.

i thought you retards were being schizo but it's real. oof

i can see why ari and the other regulars stopped hanging around

>>550110 i'm watching her, it is really bad.

>>550110 People ain't lying when they say Sigrid is bad news. Zen is done if this is the company she wants to keep.

>>550105 Tbh I kind of hope that Zen gets burned by her new orbiters. I really don't like them bullying Mei, who's been a friend to Zen for a hot minute now. I just wonder whether Zen is actually retarded for not seeing it for what it is.

>>550122 I'm reminded of a VRChat stream where Zen took Mouse and Henya into a horror world that very obviously freaked them out too much and Zen seemed oblivious

Ok, this event really messed up with mei. Even now she is saying she is sorry and got scared and she love her friends. Dude, dude...

This is gonna get so much worse later on. I expect: 100% chance - Bunny 75% chance - Filian Filian orbiters Phase orbiters 50% chance - Nux

>>550131 the way she started looping is pretty sad

>>550131 what happened exactly? i heard sigrid is a piece of shit but what happened to make mei feel so bad she had to leave

>>550125 Since we are at this point imma armchair psychologist, zen is either autistic or due to child/growing up trauma shut down social intelligence/empathy. It happens a lot

>>550139 I'm gonna take the more plain approach and guess that she's just not very observant. I'm not great at it either

>>550137 from what I saw it's just nagging, constant and relentless and mostly unprompted. if there are outstanding timestmps I'd love to see them

Hey guys, what did you do to some mindbroken retard that posts everything from here to 4chan? He always tags his posts with "file.png". I want to know the lore.

Are you guys for real or just exaggerating again?

>>550139 To be fair, this is over a discord call - it's not like Zen can physically see Mei getting uncomfortable. I hope Zen doesn't get cancelled over this but if she does at least it's no longer the group's problem. >>550154 I thought people were being schizos and retards as usual but Meicha genuinely seemed be emotionally fucked from what happened and kept looping that she loves her friends

>>550152 probably that retard baker that decided to spam his cozy wolf wife /here/, got a vacation and proceeded to cry about it on ex. haven't stopped since, he is obsessed HI RETARD!

>>550167 Really? Just that? There must be more to that.

>>550168 I also raped his wife and sister, but it's gotta be that one ban

>>550162 dude this is not the first time

>>550170 Well, alright then, back to hibernation.

>>550152 Yeah, i'd guess my guess is it's >>543976 I guess he keep the tab open to look for stuff to repost? I often see images from here posted there and /vsjp/, sometimes even word for word right after they get posted here, idk.

>>550152 some retards are just retards there's a guy over on one of the video game boards that does the same that they call copynigger pick as many as you want: >spite for "splitting the community" >spiting the "split" by "stealing" their "content" and using it to "enrich" the "original" >spiting the "original" by using it as an ongoing means of annoying them with shitposting and reminding them of the "split" >free (You)s

>>550050 Well good job, looks like the schizo posted a screenshot of your post on 4shit, shitposters and twitter/youtube content leeches love big greentext posts like this, especially if it has le funny reaction image.jpg to attract more people, which is why I try to avoid making them. You guys seriously need to fucking stop posting theories already, you're just giving more material to the antis, especially if it has information they weren't aware of. >>550131 This fucking suck. My favorite people to see with Zen are still Haruka, Ari, Heavenly, Froggy, and Mei.

>>550176 >>550177 Ogey, sorry for bringing it up. Moving on.

>>550182 at this point i think she scared even haruka. I never had seen haruka with zen anymore but she is not watching things with mouse.

*she is now... FUCKING DYSLEXIA

Ari is live btw <PEAK WITH @ironmouse @sykkuno @ellum

>>550152 Is the doomposter schizo peddling ratts from the ex? They got (1)d and *click* *filter this id*

>>550182 Hey orbiters seem to have done good job driving them away. Even Ari has been saying no to some Zen's collabs because of this shit.

>>550146 >>550162 Both of you could be right, but when it happened a lot of times plus taking into account her tantrums... Idk man

Scrubbing through the VOD, i have no idea wtf you guys are talking about. Mei's giggling and everyone is ribbing each other. I might have missed an example of something really fucked up before she dips, but I don't know what it is right now.

>>550192 I don't want to sperg but this is slowing getting tiring.

>>550192 lol

Not sure if this beverage powder drama is real but I drink a lot of crystal light

>>550205 Zen? WTF are you doing here?

>>550192 It was either Mouse or Zen. Arielle picked the winning side (especially she's with Geex+ now). Zen's viewership will fall to Nyanner's barely 4view level.

>>550209 it's better than lethal company

>>550193 He means that someone is crossposting posts from here over to the ex. Anyway, the doomposting has been mostly vindicated.

>>550139 This is explains why she loves to "grief" her friends so much. Sometimes she just don't notice she is being annoying and mean

>>550209 >>550217 or REPO. or horsegirls

>>550162 Mei needs to realize that real friends don’t treat each other like this especially not someone they know carries trauma. What happened wasn’t just banter it clearly hurt her. Friendship shouldn’t come at the cost of her peace. She need to tell Zen that she’s not okay with it. And if she care about her at all she understand. >>550205 This post makes me think It was bait idk

Anyway, don't forget to listen to this today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXJ28-1FBAg

>>550213 Of all the rrats I've seen, I believe the powder rrat the most.

>>550223 Are the post over there that bad that they need to copy what we post here? Dont answer that I dont want to know

>>550192 According to Sykkuno, the collab was supposed to start now (2PM PDT), but no sign of mouse. Looks like this is another instance of the Ellum classic of asking somebody for a collab -> they don't respond, so Ellum just puts them in the title and pretends they agreed to the collab. Might be wrong, though, since Ari is there, too.

>>550230 I remember this video had like 7K yesterday, now its nearly 24K. The radio promotion seems to be working. I gonna watch it to get the numbers up.

>>550230 Already did my brotha

>>550230 I really hate it, can I skip mandatory watching today Loutlot-sama? Arigatou

>>550247 No

>>550237 just checked. Yes, it's bad. Someone is posting cleo pics there and they are casting the same old baits. Also some pics from here for some reason.

>>550230 I did, just to do my part, but honestly I wish they had done a bit better for a debut single. I actually like this style of music but it isn't hitting for me.

>>550238 Mouse is probably sleeping. She is full jp time now.

>>550247 No you cannot. >>550251 Yeah i agree. I think it's decent for a first single, but so far the best songs from nova imo are Nagi's original and Hotaru's Voracity cover.

>>550255 Yeah, which is why I'm saying this is the Ellum classic of throwing out collab requests and hoping one of them will stick. Looks like he's targeting Ari pretty hard, as he has also invited her to play A Way Out later. Mouse moving back to JST will be our only saving grace from the new leech duo.

>>550262 >>550249 okay but I want to emphasize that autotuning Hestia was a crime

>>550250 My morbid curiosity wants me to go look, but I know I shouldn't.

>>550278 >No audio

>>550251 agree, I guess that stuff works with the JP market (similar to Mouse's Waifu Jam)

>>550278 They did go a bit heavy on the autotune, she sounds so nice even when she's a bit off key. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYCRHegIh-8

>>550229 >Bait I'm am genuinely curious. I just finished scrubbing through it and so far what I saw was Sigrid coming across as annoying and Papa is just feeding off that and amplifying it, but idk if I'd call it bullying. Its awkward for sure, but she was also trying to rib Kahb as well. I'm not discounting if people don't like her from her past, w/e that drama was.

>>550287 https://x.com/HestiaHappiness/status/1870128026396307616/video/1 I don't know why, just bimbo things I love her bitch you promised to go live today to hesticles

>>550295 Part time Vtuber, please understand

>>550265 nvm, Mouse actually joined the collab. No stream, I guess?

>>550295 You will get your holy bellybutton dose in about 5 hours

>>550265 I have nothing against him so far, he vibed pretty well with Ari and Mouse during the Mario Kart collab while the other guys were rather quiet, Etoiles was mostly talking to his chat in french while throwing himself off the map to give himself an handicap. (he's a Mario Kart sweat)

>>550305 Oh, then you're new to Ellum. You'll understand it time.

>>550291 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwS2gKNcvTY she is for sure lacking exp, but I get hard when imagine if she actually gets some training and stops pitching it up by habit

did sykkuno just... date raped ari? KEK

>>550366 wtf does date raped even mean

>>550387 i can't remember the term... It's when you drug you date and rape them. Sykkuno put ari to sleep and it was kinda funny how the last thing he said was "do you trust me?"

>>550311 Ok you were right.

https://x.com/MichiMochievee/status/1943735047942537679 they are so cute

>>550437 is this still a bit?

>>550445 I think its safe to say that they are besties. Shipbaiting though? Nah, I've seen it so many times, this kind of thing never goes anywhere.

>>550465 besties like layna and nyan or besties like mouse and monke?

>>550445 it started as a bit, they hanged out in thailand and became very good friends, now i think it's getting close to a aethelnyan situation turning a ship into an actual relationship, they have great chemestry and are on record talking about their types multiple times with the other being a good fit, Numi said yesterday 40% of her messages are to Michi and then there's the Michibot she uses to watch Numi sleep, this is basically e-dating

>>550480 Too early to tell, honestly.

Geega live <chat -> mecha break with zen and mata

Henya live

Henya put her phone in the fridge and forgot about it

anyone watched the NOVA radio thing? kinda curious what they talked about but i'm to lazy to find it and translate it

>>550853 You had to download their app, also with JP ip, didn't bother with it.

>>550872 Wow, there's probably less than 10 people that listened to this broadcast. Bravo japan

>>550853 I finally got this thing to work, when I will figure out how to download from this website, I will post it here

Sponsor started

And she's off the site. Merch gone. Unaffiliated on twitter. Off the team on twitch. Zentreya from Independent. Wish her the best.

henya in 20 years

>>550993 >>551004

are the bad news are finally over?

Mel is live and playing BG3

>>551004 the fact that outside of JP only mouse and ama are consistent (until Michi comes back) is so depressing

>>551047 i hate that i can't find ama's solo content entertaining and i don't care for her non-vshojo friend group she constantly hangs with

>>551004 this is such a shoddy job, kuro is completely covering hime

>>551075 kek i didn't notice that.

>>551075 Lmao

>>551004 Heem Hajeem...

>>551004 we need more pink and we have too much purple >>551075 o shit didnt notice lmao

Hotaru schedule 12:30~ Apex collab with Hestia and Takoko, 16:15~ Optcg watchalong https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4H8MTT1WCE0

>>551101 >Hotaru >Apex I blame blondie for that

>>550933 Generally those kinds of things are available over radio or on TV domestically in Japan or streamed somewhere else as well, not just dumped on an obscure app

>>551075 Don't worry, they'll be changing it again soon.

>>551141 sure if the reposter mentions it on ex

>>551108 She had her training arc, she's gonna put on her carry pants now.

Ok, here you go. VShojo Nova radio thingy 1h long, Hotaru and Nagi appear around 26 minute Viitor seems to be working fine with it, enjoy https://files.catbox.moe/b9z2e8.mp3

oh wow - henya 2025