>>67499 (OP) >They say the memory of me is fading >I've heard it all before directly before. She's calling out the people supposedly saying they are waiting around for her being the same who say no one cares about her. As it also happened to HER before.

>>67499 (OP) This song was good. Almost too good for vtubing.

>>67499 (OP) she has no obligation to stream for you, just as you have no obligation to watch her. both sides of the vtuber fan base are honestly subhuman retards. get offline and go outside.

>>67499 (OP) >don't everyone is tell me around waiting

All those rrats and it was just her having a woman moment.

>>69396 I would agree with you if she was indie not receiving payment but being in a corpo means it is a job now. If people are going to pay you to do your job and you don’t do it then it’s natural for the people shilling out cash to get pissed. Are the paypigs absolute retards for still sending money her way despite this? Yes.

>>69396 Should have shut off the membership, desu. I find it hilarious her long project was a 2021-2022 era Mori ass song complaining that people wanted her to stream. I mean, no shit, you're a streamer.

>>72077 >her long project was a 2021-2022 era Mori ass song complaining that people wanted her to stream.

>stay in company you hate for over a year to make a song saying you hate your job instead of just leaving Did that make her happy?

She should have been releasing songs like that throughout her Hololive career. What a retard. Huge opportunity squandered. She has, what, two orisongs now?

>>69396 >the vtuber fan base This is only Holos and their fans tho, stop generalizing

Streamers don't owe you anything

>>72855 that's such a burgeristani momento https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmtxUiGYrB0

>>69396 Why are you here take your own advice first fucktard

>>72774 holy KEK

>>73868 I just think back to all the times the chumbuds were coping over the last 3 years, "Gura's not streaming because she's so busy with projects - just you wait". Predictions ranged from a Gura anime, to a world tour - speculation rose. And it turned out to be this - a song where she - someone who streamed an average of 8 hours a month in 2024 - complains about people waiting for her to do her job. I honestly feel so sorry for her fans.

>>72077 >2021-2022 era Mori ass song complaining that people wanted her to stream

>>74208 she truly is the grr martin of vtubing

>>69396 >she has no obligation to stream for you What a horrendously retarded take. She absolutely does, as this is her job, for which she gets paid for.

>>67499 (OP) something something cake and eat it too

>>67499 (OP) something something cake and eat it too

>>73832 they owe me their fame and wealth, actually

>>67499 (OP) Is was good song

All this tells me is that even if she reincarnates she will still be a lazy bitch. Pack it in chumkeks.

>>77357 She was never known for streaming back then, and when she did, her streams were very mediocre. She got her fame with prerecorded shitposts.

>>74492 >I’m rich and famous but not in THE EXACT SPECIFIC WAY I’D LIKE and it makes me upset It’s beyond banal. Oh well.

>>77649 > are aging out of the heckin clubberino festivalaroni whatever degen scene. No, we all just become like the 50 year old Star wars fans. True fans just chill in the background. Look at all the artists and mangaka, you don't think they look at stuff in their downtime?

>your job is to be the clown making everyone happy >your paycheck is good but you have to be the clown >you get tired of being the clown but at the same time this is the only thing you can do >your only value is your clown costume You can shit on Gura all you want but this is a miserable way to live your life. You can be rich but if you are not happy with yourself then all you have is comfort

>>78148 I doubt what you posted is true but if it was that's her own problem. If she thought of herself as a clown it would mean she does not respect her audience.

>>78148 >Streaming yourself playing video games means you're a clown >Also it makes you feel miserable Nigger, the only clowns in this world are the wagies that have to spend 2 hours every day in transit to look at excel spreadsheets as their jobs. stream some video games you don't even have to say anything it doesn't even have to be live, record some video games >>77679 Ultimately the issue was everyone being too succesful, the company, the streamers; what can you do?

>>78148 What you said can be true and OP can still be right about her playing the victim. We call these circumstances in a professional setting "golden handcuffs". it's not particularly that rare in other industries but in Vtubing, she is the first or one of the first that can be afforded those circumstances. She is still walking away from the situation better than 99.9% of us.

>>74208 bravo Gura you've joined the greats

>>78148 >you have to be the clown Just like Suisei HAD to do the voice Just like Mori HAD to stay edgy Gura didn't try and didn't want to stream. It's really that simple. If she isn't stupid then she should have retirement money from her time there and can go live her life. I have nothing against her, if I made 2 million dollars this year I'd quit working too.

>>67499 (OP) NEET mentality.

>>73832 If they want me to believe that then they should do it for free.

>>81561 >they came into a finished company with a pre-existing fanbase You forget that before Gura there was only a handful of EN fans thanks to Coco and Haachama. But it doesn't matter because you are mistaken in your core take that success isn't guaranteed - on the contrary, she's gonna return as Senzawa and enjoy the same 10+k ccv as Nimi Nightmare

>>78148 all she had to do was put down the booze, stop eating expired food and get her health issues fixed (which she sure as hell can with her millions)

>>67499 (OP) like clockwork

>>81638 >before Gura there was only a handful of EN fans Obviously Myth brought a lot more people into the fandom, but to say there were only a handful of EN fans that's literally not true. 45K people joined Gura debut stream, those people didn't come from thin air. Nice history revisionism.

>>82560 >45K people joined Gura debut stream proves what? you need to show numbers BEFORE not during.

>>81638 lol Shiori was doing vtubing before you were born. IMO JP needs to stay in JP. Idol culture isnt compatible with western culture because it turns into OF and grifting ewhores super fast. Which is really why EN is an indie sphere and JP is a Corpo sphere.

>>69396 >she has no obligation to stream for you It's her literal job.

>>81638 I mean Gura was still much bigger than her previous one considering it reached 1 million faster than that account despite being just 1-2 months old.

>>82673 How am I supposed to show numbers from before someone debut, genius. You don't just start debuting and get 45K viewers, this proves the EN audience was already there. Just say you are a newfag and move on.

>>68302 wait till you discover Suisei's entire discography

>>81638 Weren't a lot of English speakers watching streams but there was a lot of interest in Hololive on account of all the clips that were being translated Anyway, the song is lame and boring. The only thing that makes it even halfway interesting is the surrounding context. On it's own it's just some overwrought Imagine Dragons tier slop.

Enjoy song

>>74208 >I honestly feel so sorry for her fans. Nah, it's actually hilarious. They deserve it lmao

>>77525 Should I be worried about Kronii if she graduates?...

>>81638 Korone was by far the biggest EOP magnet back in the day and probably still is.

>people praise her song like it's the best song ever >It's generic as fuck Sound like RWBY opening theme

>>88763 I remember when Coco was the reddit dragon for being such an EOP.

>>82818 right, which she is allowed to quit.

>>74755 so, just to clarify, who pays her, and where does that money come from?

>>73852 >why are you here to watch faggots like you get overly passionate about your favorite e-girl MONARCH victim

she never signed a contract with you cuckbuds. sorry but thems the facts.

>>73832 >actually streamers aren't supposed to stream what a fucking retard.

>>95939 streamers are allowed to stream when they want, they are allowed to not stream if they dont want to. mouth breathing faggot.

>>95942 Forced haitus from managers?

>>96058 idk, which one would you say it is?

>>73832 >Donate $5,000 to a kickstarter >Radio silence for 2 years >"UHHHMMM TECHNICALLY HE DOESN'T OWE YOU ANYTHING!!" We get it, faggot. It's about morality, not legality. When you pay someone, you expect a return. When you support something, you expect a pay-off of some kind. Your childish "I DO WHAT I WANT!!" attitude stops working when people pay you a 6-figure salary.

>>96086 morally speaking, donating something and expecting a reward is bad. also, you donated $5,000? thats sooooo smart.

>>96107 >morally speaking, donating something and expecting a reward is bad. Oh, so you're just a child who doesn't know how the real world works. No point in talking to you, then.

>>96107 Change donating Gura to donating to a foundation that helps children with cancer >sorry but we are just not going to give this money to the children Imagine the uproar that this would cause

>>96115 you were the one appealing to morality.

>>96127 except its different, isnt it? donating to Gura, you expect personal entertainment. donating to cancer foundations, you expect something for someone other than yourself.

>gift random stranger on the street fifty dollars >what the hell, bitch! why aren't you doing what i want?!

lol, love my id too, "fed123". this is the time to shill my conspiracy thread now that i have pissed off some noobs: ctrl F "in MY domain" and, "bane"

>>78148 I can totally get that but I don't think telling your fans to go fuck themselves is the solution to that one. I think that's just being an ungrateful dick who's throwing their misery out on everyone else.

>>96224 >>96334 Hobos are not offering to do anything for you for the money, Gura and Cancer foundations are

>>96369 please cite Gawr Gura saying "i will stream for you so long as you give me money". by the way, you can only donate while she is streaming? like, its not a church you can enter any time. you donate during streams.

>>96212 >>96224 >>96334 >>96351 >>96391 just end your life, you're more useful as compost.

>>96568 my life will end regardless of what i do, so i may as well spend it pissing off tourists.

>>74208 >I honestly feel so sorry for her fans. Don't. They're all pedos.

>>74208 >I honestly feel so sorry for her fans. Dont. Her not streaming is 100% their fault. The major reason she hates being hololive en's gwar gura is because of the terrible fucking fanbase that e-stalks everyone she announces a collab with to see whether they are good enough for her.

ok newfag, where do you get this from?

>>97191 >>97222 shit, forgor to quote

>>67499 (OP) damn you idiots actually turned on her immediately

>>97358 i know right. anyway i cant be fucked, but im gonna have to watch this video and interpret the clues, huh? god damn it, sick of being right. its prolly some mkultra shit

>>96127 >donating to a foundation that helps children with cancer Where's the cure? I want a refund.

Kind of reminds of me this track except Gura is a hack with no talent and didn't release two iconic solo albums.

>>96700 Fortunately we can filter IDs.

>>104318 now, now, dont make ME angry, little chumkek

>>83488 EN audience came from the Myth trailer being spread around. First vtuber trailer for most eops

>>107593 For me it was one porn VN game dev discord where some guy was posting their roommates (mostly Mori) and streams a week or two after their debut. First ever thing I saw about vtubers was this meme of Watame crying about her dad leaving. That was weeks or something before Myth.

>Another Gura thread full of third worlders not been able to understand you can't buy happiness with money It's so tiresome

>>107782 You might as well rope with that mentality.

>>107782 >lazy weed smoking femcel can't buy happiness with money fixed

>>107782 you can buy expensive mv bitching about it though

>>84596 Suisei doesnt have shit on this. Everything she sings smells like a focus group, like IRyS. No soul, no heart, paint by numbers slop. Ash Again was a masterpiece.

>>81638 >Enjoy the same 10k+ as Nimi Yeah, on the one stream she has every 6 months. People forget that Gura was exactly like this in her past life. That is why I don't buy her bullshit about "mental anguish". She is a grifter.

>>81638 she will be super popular and do close to nothing with said popularity, expect more dooby than doki or nimi, only even less streams.

>>67499 (OP) She's being a schizo that's all

>>81638 She'll enjoy a ccv of 0 because she doesn't stream.

>>78148 what a predicament which happened out of absolutely nowhere at all with no way to know this before deliberately applying to a circus.

>>97191 >the terrible fucking fanbase that e-stalks everyone she announces a collab with to see whether they are good enough for her. Why are you projecting? Everyone does this not just chumbuds. And if you are bothered by it then you must be a tourist to vtubing.