>>843991
i understand the desire to defend him, i feel the same way to an extent, but this was a failure of empathy in both directions. he did not understand the impact his art would have on her and she did not understand the impact her words would have on him.
first of all lets make this clear. she isn't faking or anything. she was genuinely rattled by this situation and it affected her stream. she will actively sacrifice her livelihood and reputation in these kinds of situations (this is not the first) because of how hard the (potential) loss of champs affects her. you may think what you will about this, call it unwise or even mentally ill, but it is genuine. it was not a power trip, it was insecurity. many champs have left her over the years (sorry to bring it up...) and she takes that personally. she has gotten better about it, better at hiding and managing it, but evidently she still feels it.
i don't think relitigating this helps, but i guess it can't be avoided.
>when that artist posted that art you had the right to ask for the removal.
there is no actual "right" here. everything is down to good will. he could've just as well kept it with the tag, not posted it at all, started a new thread /here/ about it, made a google dockey exposing her vile crimes. he was free to do whatever he wanted at any point and while her words do hold power over people that care about her she can't actually coerce anyone into doing anything.
what she asked was for him to not post it, not just post it without the tag, so she still didn't like it when he posted it without the tag. that is all. i understand why he wanted to post it anyway, as he said it would've been a wasted effort in his mind, but he did go against what she asked right off the bat.
>it wasn't violent or explicit, you could've ignored it
i wish she did just ignore it, that's what i would've done. however different people have different lines, as she said she would've preferred if it was violent or explicit just not NTR (or fat, etc...)
>he was doing it for free
remember that she streams for most people for free too. donations are optional, as is liking the art you get.
>No one told the guy to stop, he went all the way with the drawing without knowing it'd piss you off.
i do feel personally bad about that, because i did warn him in our cytube once about a different thing that would make kiki jealous (watching other vtubers in cytube, he played a korone clip or something). i should have indeed warned him about that artwork as well. perhaps i thought it wouldn't turn out as bad as it did, there wasn't a clear precedent like this one with one of the other katabasis girls and a champy specifically before. like maybe it would've been fine if it was just an anon not a champy...
>Also calling your audience whores because the oshi mark wasn't nice, people aren't marrying their vtubers because they put emojis on their names.
again, people take different things seriously, its a value judgement. you don't think its nice to be called a whore, she doesn't think its nice to remove oshi marks. you can appeal to common sense, she can appeal to idol culture, there is plenty of precedent for both.
i hope cooler heads will prevail and this becomes water under the bridge in a day or two. be humble