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/co/ Pain Thread 10: Woke War 3 Anonymous 06/13/2025 (Fri) 00:57:26 No. 52422
World's on fire with war tensions running rampant. So it's important to talk about the things that really matter. Cartoons, comics, & movies. You've all seen it. Somehow Rebecca Sugar has returned. Steven Universe is making ANOTHER return with a new spinoff about Lars in his Captain Harlock ripoff homage outfit & his crew of misfit, even for them, gems. Predictions? Strong likelihood of more half assed surface level copyright infringements references to dubbed anime Sugar grew up with. As well as plenty of modern day politics free from the restrains of TV standards & practices. God help us all. To lightened up the mood, we got a surprisingly decent to dare I say good Predator animated movie anthology. It's biggest downside is the low framerate animation. A "style" popularized by the Spider-verse movies. If you can stomach that & enjoyed Prey then you may be pleasantly surprised like I was. We have another trailer for the upcoming second attempt at kickstarting a DC live action movie universe starting with Superman. Can James Gunn pull it off with genuine heart or will he pull another Guardians of the Galaxy with misunderstanding the characters for the sake of comedy? Or worse yet, continue to blunder his chance by having too many of Snyder's leftovers tied into this new universe? Speaking of which... Peacemaker season 2. John Mao Cena is back with another season of Peacemaker. This time more confusing & definitely going to muddy the waters on continuity. At least there's no more Margot Robbie Harley Quinn shoved in. What about Creature Commandos? Well fuck that show. while technically it's the real first entry into the Gunnverse, it's not what's going to introduce the average person to it & definitely doesn't have the same appeal even before seeing the men hating & cucking in the show. So let's ignore it for now. We also kinda got nothing to go off of for Supergirl nor the Lanterns show other than the casting. But we did just get an announcement for another show. Mister Miracle.... based on Tom King's comic. Showran by Tom King. Hope you like therapy & bondage.
>>57031 The Flood was because the world, or at least part the middle east & africa at the time, were way too sinful. Sodom & Gomorrah had no innocent people except for one guy & his family. The egyptian firstborns were killed because of Pharaoh & his actions of killing the hebrew babies.
>>57031 I have heard claims that the word "cannibal" comes from Baal and Canaanite, because they would sacrifice babies to Baal, then eat the corpse, so please don't feel so bad when God ordered for their massacre.
>>57023 >Female Jaguar Warrior >The guy he's talking to is Two Face. They really didn't think this through, did they.
>>56966 >Yes, it is. The series is called "Detective Comics" Just like the series One Piece is called "One Piece". No, the series called "One Piece" is distributed in a magazine called Shonen Jump. The series called "Batman" was distributed in a magazine called Detective Comics. Then it was successful so it got a spinoff, but the original continued. But the point remains that Detective Comics is analogous to Shonen Jump, not to One Piece. >No, they don't. In fact, none of the comic companies have released a single collection where it's just "one series" for the past, almost, fifteen to twenty years. Really? They stopped making the Marvel Masterworks and Essential Collections fifteen to twenty years ago? And DC stopped publishing the Archive Editions and Showcase Presents collections? Damn. Time flies. And I never even knew. I only ever bought them used anyway. But they were how I liked to collect physical comics. But they were still far too expensive to buy new. >First, I don't care. Second, that's their problem for writing these series like that in the first place. And also isn't an issue exclusive to comics. If you have any interest in actually reading a story in the clearly intended way, then you should care. And that would be the reason to collect these reprints, so that you can actually read the physical books. I also have autism for viewing series in release order, but for the big comic characters who have three or four books going on at the same time, each telling their own multi-part arcs that are supposed to be in the same continuity, that sucks. It's not the way they're actually supposed to be read. It's a quirk of how they're published. When else does this happen, outside of comics? Manga very rarely has a series that is published in multiple magazines at the same time. TV shows never have this level of crossover, except for recent attempts at adapting DC and Marvel (particularly DC with those CW shows and the DCAU), and those hardly count since they're adapting the stuff we're talking about. Vidya doesn't do it since episodic games thankfully aren't the norm, and crossovers aren't very common (especially in any story important fashion). >So they exclude the reprinted stories, and ONLY the reprinted stories. Where's the issue? That's what they do. But what you're suggesting isn't just to exclude the stories in Superman magazine that were originally reprints, but to also exclude the stories that were originally published in Action Comics, World's Finest, and all the other Superman magazines. You'd be missing many stories/chapters, including ones that the stories original to Superman magazine would expect you to know, since effectively they are really all one series. As early as 1940, Robin was introduced in Detective Comics #38, and then that same month, Batman #1 included stories with Robin, that expected you to know him from Detective Comics. Batman #1 also introduced Joker and Catwoman, and then later Batman stories published in Detective Comics expect you to know them, because really all the Batman comics being published were part of a single series, even if published in different magazines. >I want to read the 881 issues of Detective Comics, in order, without interruption, from when the series started in 1937 to when it ended in 2011. You think I'm missing your point, but you're missing mine. Due to Batman becoming an essential part of Detective Comics, eventually taking over the entire thing, you can't just collect Detective Comics and expect to know what's going on, since the Batman stories in Detective Comics are less than half of Batman stories in continuity. Or rather, perhaps it would make more sense to call them chapters in this context. Collecting only Detective Comics wouldn't make sense for this reason. You could, but before long you'd be getting only every second (then third) chapter of a story. You can see these problems for yourself if you try to read Marvel Masterworks or Essential collections of any characters with multiple series. Before long, chapters in Marvel Masterworks: Marvel Comics start referring to things the Human Torch did in his spinoff series, because really those Human Torch series are the same series, just with chapters published in different magazines. And that's a mild example. It gets much worse with the Avengers, and then worse than that with Spider-Man, once he gets popular enough to star in three series at once. So okay, you can collect just Detective, or Action, but you're gonna be left confused before too long, if you actually try to read them. Also, Detective Comics didn't end in 2011, it merely restarted its numbering. They started calling it "Volume 2," but there was no difference, at least no more than after the Crisis on Infinite Earths. And later they reverted to the original numbering, so now they're back at Volume 1. You're clearly a casual. And that's okay, I'm happy to teach you the basics and help you find the things you'd like to read and enjoy, but don't act so confident when you don't know what you're talking about. >No, they don't. They do up to the points that the collection series get cancelled. I have every Spider-Man story up to the early '80s in the form of the Essential reprints. I have every '60s Fantastic Four story the same way. But the problem is the series are so long, and the audience so niche, and the companies too stupid to make the product cheap and well distributed enough, that the whole series is rarely finished. They do them in order but eventually it becomes unprofitable because nobody is buying Spider-Man Vol 15 without also buying Spider-Man Vol 14. Each volume gets diminishing returns. Of course I think this could be improved by the companies involved, but it's not that only "Greatest Hits" are published. >No, it was a comic series. Comics have traditionally been published in magazines. Detective Comics is a magazine to this day. Inside that magazine, there used to be multiple features, different stories all bundled together in one book. Some of these stories were popular enough to get sequels and become series. Some of these series included Slam Bradley, Speed Saunders, and eventually Batman. But Batman was so popular that eventually he took over the entire magazine. His feature became longer and longer, so there was less space in every issue for other features. Eventually his series was the only feature. And if this was the extent of it, it would be somewhat easy to understand. Journey Into Mystery got taken over by Thor in the same way, and they just changed the name of the magazine to Thor. But before Batman took over all of Detective, he also got a spinoff, called Batman. So Batman's series was so popular it was now published across two different books. Actually three, because there was also World's Finest, which was half Superman and half Batman (and eventually, in the '50s, they started crossing over and eventually it became a series about them teaming up). But the point remains that "Batman" is the series, Detective Comics is the magazine it was originally published in, and eventually one of three magazines that it was published across. Of course there were also newspaper comics, but those were a separate continuity, and have been collected. Since they are far fewer overall (though there are still tons of them), they've been reprinted in collections that are much simpler to understand. >Monty Python and SNL Good analogy, sort of. These days SNL does upload just collections of a series of sketches. You can go and find official uploads of every Wayne's World or Celebrity Jeopardy or whatever. But I get your point. Did they ever actually release physical editions of every season of SNL? I doubt it. I think that makes the season collections much more analogous to Marvel's Essential collections. If SNL had spinoff series that had continuity with their recurring sketches, and the original sketches continued at the same time as the spinoff series, but those spinoff series were released in separate collections, that would be much more annoying. In fact, even in that "Every Wayne's World Ever" video on the official SNL Youtube channel, it is a bit annoying that the later sketches reference the movie, but the movie isn't included. Of course that's a movie so it's slightly understandable. And it's not as bad as just a second weekly show that has half the adventures of Wayne and Garth but was just left out anyway. >So all the stuff that came before Batman, and outside of Batman, is "not important" at all whatsoever and is material that isn't worth being read by absolutely anyone on this fucking planet or any other for that matter? When did I say that? I even said it would be cool to collect it, but it might be more practical to leave out the Batman stories, because there are simply so many of them, and eventually they become the entire series, and they're already collected since they're much less niche, and fit better in a different format (which includes the spinoff Batman series). It would also be cool and perhaps even more practical to release at least a volume or two of every Slam Bradley story, since that's much more doable. He's a somewhat known character so people might buy it. Maybe. But unfortunately I'm sure DC management figures that not enough people would buy the fourth or fifth volumes of Detective Comics collected editions, since the Batman stories are the only ones that more than a very niche audience wants to read. Do I want to? Yes. I have. But I also unfortunately understand that very few people agree with me. But of course this is moving the goalposts slightly. The point remains that Detective Comics is analogous to Shonen Jump, not to One Piece, and you're not mad that they don't publish collections of every Shonen Jump ever.
>To put it another way, the requirement to engage in piracy displays a failure on the company to release a decent product. Yeah they should really get a better digital distribution platform together. And you know what? I bet if they released two or three volumes that just collected Detective Comics, those might sell. But all 1000+ issues? They would never sell in physical versions. The first volume would sell, then a significant portion of the buyers would be mad when there is no Batman. But some people interested in the history would be cool, and buy a second volume. Then the third volume would start to include Batman, and by the fourth, Batman stories would expect you to also be reading the Batman spinoff series, making this series, which makes up a bigger and bigger portion of each issue, less and less enjoyable and comprehensible. And by then you'd probably just be getting diminishing returns anyway, since later volumes won't sell more than earlier (at least in general. Maybe there could be some crazy miracle here or there). And then DC would quit and all the collectors would be shit out of luck. Unfortunately Golden Age stuff in general is already quite niche. And that's niche within the comics fandom, which is already very niche. >All they would have to do is just release 300 page volumes, using regular-ass paper and colored ink (Like what comics used to be printed on until the Aughts switched everything out for that glossy paper), every month until they reach the respective series' end. I'd like to think so, but I'm not as hopeful. Marvel only got to Essential Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 11 before stopping, and I'm confident they'd have kept going if it was profitable. That's essentially newsprint, with no color. The pages are pretty large, I suppose. A digest sized book might be a little cheaper. But still, those Essential collections aren't as cheap as they should be. I think poor distribution and a niche audience are issues here. They don't get to utilize economies of scale as effectively when comics nerds are already few. For Spider-Man vol 1? Yeah, a lot of people want that. But only some of those will want Vol 2, and so on. By the time you get to 11, they need to be a lot smarter with their entire business before they can continue making it profitable. >You mean like all the stupidity when it came to distribution? That's only part of it. But yes. Like that. >road map on how to read these stories. Kind of like what Star Wars had in the front/back of all the book (Before Yidsney bought them out). I've been getting into those recently and I don't think those lists in the back are helpful. They're in chronological order and not release order. That's not helpful. Obviously starting with the Thrawn Trilogy is a smarter thing to do than starting with any of the prequel era books. The list expects you to start with the beginnings of the Jedi Order, but that's not going to hook anyone. It only means anything if the reader already cares about the series. It's like reading The Silmarillion before The Hobbit. It's a very bad idea. For western comics, shit gets so autistic that a reading order would require a very thick book all on its own. All the crossovers make it ridiculous. It's effectively impossible to actually read it all. I don't believe there is even enough time in a person's life. But yes, Marvel and DC could each hire a massive autist to come up with a master reading order. I think what they actually should be doing is, within their digital distribution platforms, create very thorough sorting systems and let fans make and share their own reading orders. Even when viewing someone's custom reading order, still let readers filter for all the factors they want. Factors would need to include things like series and creators, obviously, but also things like which characters appear or are mentioned, and which story arcs each story/chapter is a part of. Perhaps we should also let those be defined by fans on some level. Put lists within lists. If you want to read Detective Comics, I'll tell you how. Do it all in order up until #38. Then you have to read Batman #1 before #39. Then you have to read another Batman every few issues (because it wasn't published monthly at first, but was eventually). World's Finest starts before too long, so there's that, too. But okay, this is all kind of manageable until you start getting multi-part Batman stories. He mostly stays out of crossovers until the '50s, but then he starts meeting Superman pretty regularly. Then the Justice League. Then you're fucked. You realize if you really want to understand everything you have to go back and read all those characters' series, and Superman has even more series than Batman (since he also has Superboy and The Legion of Superheroes). Then they introduce Earth-Two and the Justice Society. Batman and Superman were both mentioned as being honorary members of the Justice Society, but never really showed up. But technically you should have been reading it the whole time. But then we start getting stories of the original Batman and Superman, who are the ones you were reading about in Golden Age comics. They switched to being about very similar new characters eventually, without telling you. So now you have two Batmans to worry about. Don't worry, one of them dies. But then they introduce the All-Star Squadron, which takes place in the '40s on Earth-Two. So if you wanted to read in chronological order, you'd be reading these comics from the '80s at the same time you're reading those other ones from the '40s, and switching back and forth. Obviously chronological order is retarded. But oh, by the '80s Batman has met cowboy characters like Jonah Hex and Bat Lash, which I guess take place long before Batman was ever born, long before Slam Bradley was ever born. And oh Hawkman is from ancient Egypt, and Vandal Savage is a caveman, so you'd better read those first. Just reading in release order does make the most sense. But the problem is the crossovers, or even worse, when one character just has his stories published across different magazines. >$10-$15 for 7-10 issues. I wish. They're too greedy and stupid to do that. >>56972 It's perfectly reasonable to want that. But the companies are greedy and stupid. And unfortunately I do think there is also the factor of how niche this all is. How many people care about The Legion of Superheroes, really? And how many people even collect books anymore? And The Legion of Superheroes are a spinoff of Superboy, which is a spinoff of Superman, meaning it's probably more niche than both of those, and that new Superman movie didn't do as well as the studio wanted. It did way worse than Man of Steel, which everyone said was a flop and caused DC to panic and make the piece of shit that was Batman v Superman. I do think if they distributed properly some cheap manga styled collections, they could sell more. But I'm not so sure if there is much they could do to profitably sell physical reprint collections of the entire runs of these very long series. The audience and the economics of books in general have changed greatly since when these series were actually popular.
>>57065 >But the point remains that Detective Comics is analogous to Shonen Jump No, it's not >not to One Piece. Yes, it is >When else does this happen, outside of comics? There was Halo 5, where the game's story only made sense had you read the half a dozen novels and watched a couple of the webseries that had been released in the interum between it and Halo 4. Final Fantasy XV requires that you watch an anime, listen to audio dramas, and read a few books in order to understand the game's plot. Not to mention the mess of navigating the entire VII, X, and XIII sagas. Or Kingdom Hearts. Early Digimon has a multiverse story-arc for a character that crosses the anime, the manga, and the games. NCIS crosses over with dozens of spin-offs and different shows. The plot for Martian Successor Nadesico goes from the original anime to the Saturn VN to the movie before concluding in the Dreamcast VN. But you are correct that nothing gets "as" autistic as capeshit comics. >You'd be missing many stories/chapters, including ones that the stories original to Superman magazine would expect you to know That's not my problem. Blame the writers for not making a coherent story. >Due to Batman becoming an essential part of Detective Comics, eventually taking over the entire thing, you can't just collect Detective Comics and expect to know what's going on I don't think that you understand that I don't care. And as I said, if these companies gave a shit, they would be putting out a guide. >even if published in different magazines. I thought "Batman" was the name of the comic, not a magazine, so which is it? >You're clearly a casual. Yes and? >I'm happy to teach you the basics and help you find the things you'd like to read and enjoy I'm not going to put in this much work in order to read this shit. And why should i when it's clear that these companies give even less of a shit about it than I do? >I even said it would be cool to collect it, but it might be more practical to leave out the Batman stories No, it wouldn't for one simple reason: If they're leaving that out, WHAT ELSE are they leaving out? Think of it like all these vidya remasters/remakes, where the trailers already show the company making significant changes to the game. And all the way up to release, we're being gaslit about how it's the "same game", but why did they need to change those elements if that really was "true"? And then the game finally cames out and people realize that it's almost an entirely new game. That's the thing I'm worried about and tired of here. I don't care if theses collections are missing "half of the story" as a result of these companies being greedy fucks who cannot plan out a story without trying to squeeze every penny they can out of Little Jonny's pocket by making him buy 10 other comics in order to understand everything. What I want is JUST "Detective Comics 1-881. That way I KNOW everything related to Detective Comics is there and I'm not missing out on an issue because the editor suddenly decided that it wasn't "important" enough and should be lost to time. >I bet if they released two or three volumes that just collected Detective Comics, those might sell. But all 1000+ issues? They would never sell in physical versions. Why not? Because the later stores are all shit? And how would they know unless they try? >and by the fourth, Batman stories would expect you to also be reading the Batman spinoff series So they start publishing volumes of just the Batman series and begin doing the same thing. And when the stories begin to expect you to also be reading World's Finest, they do the same for that series. Also, I do agree that people should be reading these series by release order rather than chronology. >How many people care about The Legion of Superheroes, really? I sort of do because I remember the cartoon on Kid's WB. >and that new Superman movie didn't do as well as the studio wanted. It did way worse than Man of Steel, which everyone said was a flop and caused DC to panic and make the piece of shit that was Batman v Superman. It's funny how, for a couple months, you heard nothing except how "successful" Gunn's Supes film was (So "successful" and "good" in fact that you have people like our local shill who was demanding that people see it or you're committing a crime against humanity), only for the sudden announcement last week that WB is up for sale.
>>57066 Yeah of course the companies are greedy & stupid. That's the problem. If DC or Marvel really cared about popularity then they need to actually write for their audience in the first place. Not trying to get a whole different audience. Or at least, like I'm suggesting, to just have their classic library available to read physically.
>>57023 >>57033 The line doesn't even make sense within the context of the movie since earlier there's a scene of the Spaniards arriving in Tenochtitlan and seeing the blood on the temple steps and the thousands of skulls on display.
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>>57033 I'm reminded of that one "literal BatGod" scene from Tom King.
>>57068 That wouldn't really work, trying to follow a story stuck between multiple different books/titles is the equivalent of undoing a ball of yarn.
>>57192 That kinda thing is only a bigger problem with more modern comics.
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SIMPSONS MOVIE 2 ANNOUNCED Don't you just love it when Simpsons jokes become reality?
>>57224 Will this be the finale where bart fucking dies like in the creepypasta? And then the rest of the simpsons die too?
>>57224 That's the shittiest donut I've seen in a while.
>>57224 I don't think Julie Kavner's vocal chords can survive another movie.
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Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle Tops Superman as #1 Comic Book Film of the Year https://archive.ph/axbsp >Deadline and The Numbers services reported on Sunday that Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba Infinity Castle - Akaza Sairai, the first film in the Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba Infinity Castle trilogy, has earned an estimated total of US$633 million worldwide as of Sunday, October 5. That makes the film the highest grossing comic book film of the year, after surpassing Superman's US$615,784,465. (Infinity Castle had already overtaken Captain America: Brave New World and Thunderbolts*.) That would also make the anime film the #6 highest-grossing film of 2025 so far after topping F1: The Movie. >(The Hollywood Reporter and Box Office Mojo list the film's worldwide box office total at "US$757.6 million" as of Sunday. However, the discrepancy between their total and Deadline and The Numbers' total is US$124.6 million, which is exactly the U.S. box office total that all four services list.) >Deadline added that the first Infinity Castle film earned US$324.6 million in Crunchyroll/Sony markets (which are outside Japan and some other Asia markets) by adding US$10.2 million this weekend (US$3.5 million in the U.S. and US$6.7 million outside the U.S.) To date, the film has earned a total of US$17.4 million in Mexico, US$14.4 million in Germany, US$14.2 million in France, US$9.3 million in India, and US$8.9 million in the United Kingdom.
>>57407 I'm glad it did so well though I hate Crunchyroll & how their laziness plus agendas ruin a lot of anime sub releases. But as others have pointed out, Hollywood will take the wrong lesson from this again & do something like greenlight a live action Demon Slayer adaptation. With a "diverse" cast over actually making new 2D animated movies for boys.
>>57408 Moreso than I hate Hollyjew, I hate the cynical mangaka that sign off on these adaptations because they don't think beyond "hey, gaijin give me money".
‘Steven Universe’ Creator Rebecca Sugar Set for Animated Feature From Annapurna, Moomin Characters https://archive.ph/8Xr5R >Beloved around the world in books, cartoon strips, TV series and movies, the Moomins are coming to the big screen. Moomin Characters and Annapurna announced today that they are bringing the creatures to life in a feature to be directed and written by Rebecca Sugar (“Steven Universe”), above. It’s the first Moomin film produced in the U.S.
>>57413 Mark my words, she will crash, burn and leave during the production of the movie.
>>57413 I'm still dissapointed since I found out about thos I hope some finn nationalist will kill her in her house
>>57416 >>57417 Looking on Twatter, you have a lot of people running defense for Sugar with the excuse: <Well, the creator of Moomin was a closet lesbian, so the characters were 'always' LGBT-coded This shit is not going to improve until around 2040 at the earliest.
>>57418 So was SA LGBT-coded? Since it was lead by Ernst Rhöm who is known Homosexual?
>>57419 According to these people, yes, because "all Nazis" are femboy twinks with inferiority complexes. If they were actually secure about themselves, then they wouldn't be Nazis (And eveil by extension). Instead they would be LGBT activists.
>>57420 Do they know there are gay nazis and trans nazis?
>>57418 Do they still like Tintin even when the creator was working with Leon Degrelle in the 30's?
>>57421 Yes and those people are "evil" because they're Nazis. >>57459 They would probably excuse that because Leon wasn't a Nazi "yet".
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>>57408 >>57411 This is a copy-pasta from a post I made over on PLW. Figured it was also worth posting here. The mindset Pedowood (And all Western media for that matter, with Japan not that far behind) has had for the past two decades is that they're making diverse, equitable, and inclusive material in order to "correct" society's "past sin" for having allowed the "majoritized group" (White Straight Christian Conservative men) to gain power over and dictate the direction society (And by extension, the evolution of mankind). And how they atone for this "sin" is making material about and promoting "minoritized" groups and ideas that society needs to protect and browbeating the "majoritized" group and ideas for refusing to concede their "power" to their "minoritized" superiors. And keep in mind that I used the word is "minoritized", NOT "minority" because there is a huge difference as you can see from this article published WAY back in 2016: https://archive.md/LkUVN <Therefore, I would like to argue that minority should be defined “a group of less than half of the total, a group that is sufficiently smaller in number.” I believe that “groups that are different in race, religious creed, nation of origin, sexuality, and gender and as a result of social constructs have less power or representation compared to other members or groups in society” should be considered minoritized. Women are not minorities, they are one of many minoritized groups. In Layman's terms, a "minoritized" person is someone who doesn't have the power and influence that they believe that they should. In practice, an example of a "minoritized" group is the Chinese Communist Party because the CCP doesn't have the power nor the influence to dictate what is said about them outside of West Taiwan. Now you may come away from that think that these companies can do whatever they want because you are not required to "support" them at the end of the day. That's not how things work in THEIR world. According to the mindset and views of these people, you are suppose to be a "good citizen of the world" and take this beating. That you should be "happy" watching the Star Wars sequel trilogy because it's Star Wars. That you should be "happy" seeing a black Captain America or a female Thor because it's Captain America and Thor. Your job as a part of the "majoritized" group is to mindlessly consume this shit because it's the "same shit" it always was, but just now made to appeal to the "minoritized" groups. And if you refuse to see the latest Avengers, where Iron Man is defeated by the MSheU, you are still going to "do your part" and pay for this shit anyway through your tax dollars that are used to subsidize this trash (Because it's not like you can suddenly stop paying taxes, right?). If you're confused how these retards developed this mindset, let me give the punchline: IT'S SOCIALISM!!! One of the prevailing theories about how Socialism is suppose to "work" (And the progress towards Communism) is that the Proletariat are suppose to "rise up and seize the means of production", right? Well, there's a bit more Marx's theory than just that cut and dry concept. You see, Socialism is not suppose to occur until AFTER we have reached what he calls "Peak Capitalism", where everything that would "ever" be created in all of human history finally exists. And once that happens, THEN the Proletariat are suppose to rise up and steal everything from the bourgeoisie. Because the logic is that everything that would ever exist now does exist, and we therefore no longer "need" the people who brought those creations into existence as they're just taking up space and being "selfish". It's the same thing here. The male demographic made Star Wars and capeshit popular in the first place. And now that they have achieved "peak popularity", it is "acceptable" for them to begin destroying and deconstructing every aspect of these products, per their Socialist doctrine. And like I said earlier, you're suppose to sit there and accept it. Because it's Socialism in action and fulfilling the prophecies of High Priest Marx, where you're the bourgeoisie and so your "only" options are to sit there and accept it or fight it and be killed. But your job doesn't just end there. You see, there is another HUGE FUCKING REASON why Socialism "must" follow Capitalism. According to Marx and his followers, the stupid Proletariat (Yes, he does call them "stupid") don't actually know how these creations are suppose to work. If you're about to ask "who's job" it will be to fix shit once it breaks, I'm about you address that for ya. And that's where you surviving bourgeoisie members are suppose to come in, because you remember a time when these things DID work. And so your role in a Socialist society will be to maintain these creations for the betterment of Socialism. What that means in regards to these media franchises is that your "job" will be to forever support these creations because you're the one who made them popular in the first place, and be the ones to "fix" the story whenever the Socialist writers wrote themselves into a hole because you remember when these series were "good" and what made them "good". And you are suppose to like it because the beatings will continue until you do. Unless you die in the process, in which case you still served a purpose. And it's only when you do that we reach "Peak Socialism", and can finally create the "Heaven on Earth" that is Communism. To address one last point... Now, I know what you "may" be thinking. If this entire concept is dependent upon society having achieved "Peak Capitalism", that everything that "needed" to exist now does, why haven't we transitioned to Socialism like these retards have theorized? Well, according to leading 20th century Marxist theorists Herbert Marcuse, that's because the bourgeoisie found a "magical loophole" to the "scientific progression of history". According to Marcuse in his work "One-Dimensional Man", the bourgeoisie keep supplying humanity with what he calls "false needs". Your iPod, that boxed lunch, your fucking dress suit, all of that "doesn't need" to exist. It was just a "false need" that the bourgeoisie hypnotized you into "needing". And so even if these people burn all of entertainment to the ground, that's okay because it was a "false need" that wouldn't have existed in a Socialist society anyway.
>>57461 >not suppose to occur until AFTER we have reached what he calls "Peak Capitalism", where everything that would "ever" be created in all of human history finally exists >And so even if these people burn all of entertainment to the ground, that's okay because it was a "false need" that wouldn't have existed in a Socialist society anyway. <You aren't allowed to invent everything even though we can't truly succeed until everything has been invented <You're the stupid one for making this shit, not me who doesn't know how it operates I fucking hate contradictory commie logic so much, how do people not see this for the sham that it is?
>>57462 >how do people not see this for the sham that it is? They don’t believe in truth, only “my truth”. All that matters is what they want. If they want communism then it couldn’t matter less whether it makes sense or even if it works.
>>57462 >>57465 There's also the fact that communists believe history will progress towards the destination laid out by Marx. Even when they're proven wrong by changing society there's just new Marxists like Marcuse who come along and explain how "Marx wasn't wrong, it's just those darn capitalists putting their finger on the scale somehow"
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>>54827 >>57023 >>57033 The film got a few laughs from me for how ridiculous and poorly written it is. Aztec Batman's armor and weapons are reforged from Spanish steel so no way he should be agile or stealthy carrying around what is probably more than half his own weight in metal. He and Aztec Alfred even make a bunch of what appear to be solid metal macuahuitl. It would have made a lot more sense to keep the wood part and replace the obsidian chips with sharpened metal, but Aztec Batman uses and hands out something that would be just heavy and unwieldly metal clubs worse than the original Spanish swords he could have used instead. This is all learned from stolen Spanish books which include a Da Vinci like glider contraption complete with launcher to get it off the ground. Alfred and Aztec Batman do all this over what can't be more than week or two at most since Cortes's severely injured face doesn't really heal or start looking infected between the time they get the metal and the finished suit being shown... all in secret... and with no prior knowledge of forging steel and iron or engineering of gliders. Batman's one of the smartest men on the planet, but that is a very short time to do all that. No language barrier in this movie either. Cortes can speak the same language as Aztec Batman's village which is apparently the first one the Spaniards find and they just sail right up to it. I guess they didn't want Malinche in the movie? Aztec Batman's fellow villagers get shot from freaking out over seeing Pedro de Alvarado's blond hair for the first time. They died because they got mesmerized by something shiny. Aztec Joker, or "Yoka", doesn't even do much until the last third of the movie where after Montezuma strips him of his position as high priest and advisor for not knowing about the Spaniards he sacrifices his entire family in an attempt to ward off the Spaniards and regain his status which is when Huitzilopochtli who has been talking directly to Aztec Joker the entire movie reveals he's actually Tezcatlipoca. It's "not one bad day" or falling into a vat of chemicals here, it's Aztec Joker being deliberately manipulated into insanity by a blood thirsty god. Poor bastard didn't have a chance. That part is also a bit confusing if you know anything about Aztec religion since Yoka acts like Tezcatlipoca is a Satan expy or Huitzilopochtli's evil counterpart when both were bloody violent gods worshiped by the Aztecs. Aztec Joker later kills Montezuma while making it look like the Spaniards did it followed by him offering "make the throne yours" for Cortes at the end of the movie. Why would even Two-Face Cortes want the Aztec emperor's throne? Is Aztec Joker going to try to get Cortes to coup the Spanish Empire? Aztec Joker is also the only native that "aids" Cortes. It's all Spaniards fighting the Aztecs. Wut. For some reason Tezcatlipoca's character design appears to be based on Parallax too and stands out as the only non-Batman related or historical character, plus Tezcatlipoca's first DC appearance was in the 80s as a Wonder Woman villain which this version looks nothing like. Tezcatlipoca even seems like he's supposed to be this setting's version of Parallax since he has the line when Aztec Joker kills Montezuma "Your fear is the reason your empires dies with you." but zero explanation for why what appears to be Parallax is there. Cortes doesn't even act like Two-Face with the only real connection being him losing half his face and there being a single scene later where he inexplicably gains Two-Face's coin flipping. Aztec Poison Ivy has couple a random cameos and drowns Pedro de Alvarado at the end so he isn't going to be governor of Guatemala or die from getting trampled by a horse later unless he gets resurrected as another Aztec Batman villain. I didn't even realize that was supposed to be Pedro de Alvarado initially since he doesn't really look like portraits him and Cortes only refers to him by name as just Pedro once in the entire film that I recall. There's a random mid credits cameo of the Penguin dressed as a plague doctor thrown in too as a hook for a sequel that is I'm hoping is unlikely to get made due to how poorly received this film was. It's weird there's only a single line of Cortes mentioning God, when converting the natives to Catholicism and making them loyal to the Spanish Empire was a major reason for Spanish conquest other than wealth, land, and other European empires. The entire Batman part of the film feels kinda tacked on actually, as if there was already a script and it got reworked as a Batman movie so WB would produce it. The Bat God doesn't do anything either until apparently resurrecting dead Aztec Batman right before the credits. >>57098 It's weird that Aztec Batman and Aztec Alfred don't once actually raise any objections to the sacrifices, especially with how in front of them it is. There's a humorous scene near the end where some random background villager shouts "We have been blessed by the blood of the dead!" while Aztec Batman lays there injured with a brief expression that could be interpreted as him laying there, dying and thinking "Why the fuck am I protecting these bloodthirsty idiots?" Aztec Catwoman isn't a villain and just stealing to feed the poor. Again, no objections or even mention from her about the human sacrifices either... so who's the villain here again?
>>57461 >And that's where you surviving bourgeoisie members are suppose to come in, because you remember a time when these things DID work. And so your role in a Socialist society will be to maintain these creations for the betterment of Socialism. What that means in regards to these media franchises is that your "job" will be to forever support these creations because you're the one who made them popular in the first place, and be the ones to "fix" the story whenever the Socialist writers wrote themselves into a hole because you remember when these series were "good" and what made them "good". And this is where things really fall apart. If only a subset of oppressed and derided people know how things work and how to fix them then that means that they know how to break them and now have very little reason not to do so. Unlike in Ayn Rand's novel where the oppressed wunderkind do things like repair the execution device that they're strapped to just to prove how much smarter they are than everyone else, in real life people will gold brick or worse entertain their inner Wishmaster and engage in malicious compliance or even full on sabotage. I mean if the tarded commie masses don't know not to delete System 32 or that the recipe that they're being given won't make pretty crystals there's no way to guard against it. And frankly someone will decide that they'd rather be Emperor and they'll collect all the disenfranchised bourgeoisie together as part of his personal guild and he'll use the knowledge to abort socialism and take over the world. Marxists always seem to create the enemies that will come along and purge them. Even proto-Marxists like the Jacobins did the same thing.
>>57472 >Even proto-Marxists like the Jacobins did the same thing. I wouldn't call them protomarxists that goes to the enragé, they were way more closer to the ideas of marx and socialism blah blah blah Jacobin club was also very wide and had many subgroups. The ones that you are thinking of is La Montagne, know for being the leaders during the jacobin reign of terror and for people like Robespierre. But it was also another jacobins Themidorians which infact killed robespierre and his friends. And by definition they were all liberals or radical liberals. Doesn't mean that they weren't left wing. But they weren't modern communist left
Time to put Daniel Warren Johnson on the blacklist. He should be fired the same way as that fat troon who applauded Charlie Kirk's assassination. These people are outright openly violent deluded maniacs. https://archive.is/i6Wgk https://xcancel.com/danielwarrenart/status/1976716161287950711


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