Some people here actually liked Steven Universe, even before cuckchan exodus. “Why” I cannot say. >Can James Gunn pull it off with genuine heart Not without at least one forced Trump/Elon reference.

>>52425 It lulled some people in to a cutesy safe comfy show I'm guessing. Fully expect some dig at Lex being compared to Elon or Trump at least once. If they're smart they'll cut it out. At least the Elon reference would be eye rolling but both sides hate him.

>>52425 >why Waifus and what it had the potential to be. Some of the ideas were neat but execution was not great, later seasons were worse.

>>52431 This plus I liked the comedy aspectsif the forst season

>>52431 This. I wouldn't call it a good show, but there were parts I enjoyed.

>>52425 No, It's just you.

reposting from last thread >First clip from Andy Serkis’ animated adaptation of ‘ANIMAL FARM’ >Starring Seth Rogen, Gaten Matarazzo, Steve Buscemi, Glenn Close, Laverne Cox, Kieran Culkin, Woody Harrelson, Jim Parsons, Kathleen Turner and Iman Vellani https://archive.ph/klE7z

>>52507 Allegedly they turned the story into another Orange Man Bad production. I expected better from Andy Serkis. Explains Seth Rogen's involvement.

>>52508 Nigger what the fuck are those dumbasses doing? Do they have the stupid.

>>52511 They have TDS & a chip on their shoulders. So pretty much.

>>52508 >story about how Soviet Union (communists) are bad >change to criticism of capitalism and orange man Hmmm. Really makes you think.

>>52538 >communists are bad Except the story was originally written by an anarchoCOMMUNIST and actively glorifies the most left-wing and liberal succesor to lenin (trotsky).

>>52540 Funny how the most Anti-Communist person was a Communist himself. Almost like he understood the ideology better than everyone else.

False alarm on that Lars cartoon. They didn't announce a series they announced the concept of a show they MIGHT green light.

>>52507 Something about Seth Rogen playing the role of a character meant to represent Joseph Stalin is hilarious >“I WILL RUIN WHAT LENIN WANTED, EXECUTE MY RIVALS, EXECUTE MY SOLDIERS AND INNOCENT PEOPLE, HUNT AND KILL TROTSKY, AND START A COLD WAR!” (seth rogen laugh)

>>52542 >anon is this retarded No the thing was never critique of communism it was critique of stalinism/Authotarian communism. The guy loved communism you moron. >>52544 Huh intresting. >>52545 I will anger every faggot over here,but stalin is unironically one of the better ones. Trotsky was a giant jew amd would probably start ww2 befire hitler. Bukharin would lose in ww2 holy shit is that a ___ reference? and tukhachevsky would just probably let his old habits out and turn ussr into a paganist socialist country

>>52544 For now.

>>52547 >No the thing was never critique of communism I take it that 1984 "doesn't count" as a "critique" of Communism either. Since the book, in and off itself, is a satire of the Fabians (England's merry band of home-grown Socialists), with constant references to them from the book's own title (1884 was when the Fabians were established) to INGSOC literally being an abbreviation for "English Socialism". >I will anger every faggot over here,but stalin is unironically one of the better ones. That's bait, and you know it. Try harder next time.

>>52550 May as well be shown on Fox with how weirdly it's animated with motion tweening.

>>52550 Couldn't they get an adult male voice actor for adult Bobby?

>>52549 1984 is again a critique of Authotarian communism. Sorry faggot byt you should learn about what you say before you talk shit. Also it wasn't a bait. But hey not like you know anything about communism and doubly anything about the politics of ussr

>>52562 >It wasn't REAL Communism being criticized

>>52564 I'm not saying that though

>>52565 Yes, you are. And the more you try to deny it, the more obvious it becomes.

>>52566 Oh god and I thought that atleast people here could argue. But seems like I'm in the wrong

>>52567 >I purposefully say one thing then deny I said it >Why won't people argue with me?!

>>52568 Again nothing I've said nothing about it not being "real" communism or whatever you think. Try harder

>>52540 >glorified Snowball was painted as a tru believer who got purged the moment he became inconvenient. That doesn't mean he was right. Here's what Orwell thought of Trotsky btw: >Trotsky, in exile, denounces the Russian dictatorship, but he is probably as much responsible for it as any man now living, and there is no certainty that as a dictator he would be preferable to Stalin, though undoubtedly he has a much more interesting mind.

>>52570 I guess that makes sense he was an anarchist after all

>>52657 Slightly better animation than the first clip but very clearly still cheap with how the rigged animation makes everything turn super jerky.

>>52550 eh could've been worse.

>>52550 >>52657 Where's the LOL?

>>52662 Here it is. https://archive.is/o7uRZ

>>52550 >>52657 I really doubt the new season's going to be terrible, considering it's still being headed by Mike Judge and so far the writing seems at worst milquetoast. The animation is definitely the worst part about what's been shown so far though, there are flash cartoons from the mid 2000's that have better looking animation than this. Which is weird, since the switch to digital apparently happened way back in season 8, so you'd think they'd know how to make the show look... normal? >>52676 Oof. That should have been something that gets made fun of for like a single episode, not a key part of one of the shows regular characters.

>>52676 >ethical non-monogamy https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ethically%20Non-Monogamous <Open relationship So she's a slut.

>>52680 Yes. As the modern woman is wont to be.

>>52676 So it's canon that Joseph, Connie and Bobby fuck each other!?

>>52702 I really hope not but we'll see. The rigged motion tweening animation already had me worried for the show but this kinda thing is even more damning if it's true.

>>52676 That girl ain't right

>>52676 >>52680 >>52702 Those gaht dang kids these days.

i bet bobby's gonna be sterile

ELIO has apparently only made $35M GLOBALLY on it's opening weekend. Lower than even Elemental's.

>>52774 What is it even about?

>>52777 (checked) Well it WAS about a boy getting mistaken for Earth's leader & being put on trial on behalf of Earth. Then mid way through production the director quit or was let go & Pixar gave the reins to the director of Turning Red. The story just became an even more generic "I'm a weird lonely kid no one understands" but with aliens.

>>52778 That's a real bummer, at least the original premise sounded marginally interesting. Sorry for wasting my trips by the way.

>>52774 My guesses on why it flopped? >Parents carting their kids to HTTYD but IRL and Lilo and Stitch: Ohana means Foster Care. >People hating original concepts and trying to actively sabotage them (I’m looking at you David Zaslav and Bob Iger) >And this last one may be a stretch, but it released on Jaws, the movie that started the blockbusters’ 50th anniversary

>>52784 The first one is the only plausible reason. Original concepts aren't the problem. The problem is ELIO is ugly & has an even less appealing story in the rewritten mid production final movie.

>>52540 >>52547 Didn't Orwell make a list about people who are anti-white and label them as "decaying liberals" to the UK's supreme court? >>52545 I'm more surprised he's okay voicing a pig for the second time, remember the anti-semitic joke: >Jews don't eat pork, 'cause they're not cannibals. >>52552 It's so fucking jarring listening to Bobby keeping his infantile voice, are they going to bring up his voice chords are underdeveloped or is the audience listening through Hank's perspective in which he still finds Bobby as his little kid who'll never grow up? What about Good Hank or Luanne's offspring? Pretty sure Pamela can still keep her job and voice one of the kids.

>>52791 >Didn't Orwell make a list about people who are anti-white and label them as "decaying liberals" to the UK's supreme court? If he did that's pretty based

Lilo and Stich 2025 made 910 million on a budget of 100 million. The original made 273 million on a budget of 80 million.

>>52801 People are suckers for name brand nostalgia. I'm betting it's biggest earnings aren't even from America again though.

>>52801 >go to imdb >it's got 6.9 Oh...

If any of you use twitter, you may have seen the Tiny Chef situation. Apparently there was a stop motion animated show being run for 3 seasons at 41 episodes on Nickelodeon. Just recently cancelled. Now I NEVER heard of the show until this cancellation video went around on twitter. It's kinda little wonder the show was cancelled with no advertising.

>>52832 It looks pretty mediocre. This looks like one of those shorts that play between ad breaks.

>>52872 It had no advertising & no one ever talked about it on twitter nor cuckchan before the cancellation. Show could be boring for all I know.

>>52801 That's a lot of Indians

I wanna get off Mr Bone's Wild Ride.

>>52801 I rewatched the original animation just to avoid nostalgia goggles and it was just better. Just overall tighter as a production from writing to voicing and I will never not mourn the loss of the animation department at disney.

>>52422 >Somehow Rebecca Sugar has returned This isn't funny. A man died you know. Well his spirit did anyway.

>>52934 The steven universe show isn't even production they just announced that they have a concept. >>52924 Hollywood execs really only see money

>>52924 Every single cut is half.assed, who made this?

Elio was originally just Steven Universe Again. The show is like a damn roach on all of western animation.

>>52946 With the concept arts & planned concepts around Elio's clone he had to calm by showing love, this isn't really surprising.

>>52946 If the only thing your movie has going for it is that the jewish main character is a fag, your movie has less than nothing going for it.

>>52953 fucking wordfilters child that hasn't reached puberty yet

>>52946 >boy character becomes more masculine Oh no how terrible.

There is going to be a new Cat in the Hat. Surprised it survived Zaslav’s concentration camps for animation >I am disappointed that they’ll probably play it safe here, because I loved how unhinged the 2003 one is (don’t come after me for this) >I would have loved to see scenes like “The Kupkake-Inator/SON OF A BIIII-”, “DIRTY HO!”, “Cat has a hat erection from a photo of the kids’ mother”, “Cat gets publicly executed by hanging and kicked in the balls before escaping and clobbering a kid” and “Shameless Theme Park Promotion” be remade but I guess this will be fine. <(At least it isn’t Illumination this time)

>>52978 Why are you quoting yourself with reddit spacing at that? >not even posting the trailer that just dropped today

Not sure if anyone is aware, Syfy is currently airing a TV adaption of the comic series Revival. Watching the first two episodes, I was not really impressed with it. My biggest complaint with it is that it feels too predictable and just has too much drama. >>52982 For some reason, this looks really bad.

Here's something painful: https://archive.is/NXTy4 >Dilbert's creator confirmed to have terminal prostate cancer right after the news of Joe Biden's >Meaning this whole time he destroyed his career on purpose and forever tainting his cartoon <Just to spend his last days interacting with his fans who stuck around >>52832 The typical forced contract cartoon that brought nothing on the table and didn't get the same expectations as the retarded yellow sponge.

>>52924 There's already a Lilo & Stitch 2, it's called 'Stitch has a Glitch'

>>53010 >destroyed Based, man was unashamed and did what he wanted. You're just a faggot Anon.

>>52508 It gets worse According to a review >"the livestock stage a coup and seize the farm — a rowdy battle set to a noxious “Old MacDonald” rap." >"the humans are unilaterally “greedy and cruel” carnivores who represent the evils of capitalism" >"Pilkington drives a Cybertruck and covets the farm as “the last piece of land I don’t own,” bribing Napoleon with credit cards and sports cars, when what she really wants is to build a dam and drown the farm." >"When power-hungry Napoleon tries to stand on two legs, flatulence erupts,” They could have made a movie that taught those edgy 14 year olds “yeah, stalin was EVIL!” but they ended up making another parade of diarrhea jokes for kids to laugh their asses off at

>>53051 I fully believe it & that makes me sad.

Somehow... Tiny Chef has returned.

So, is Southpark crashing and burning after the merge?

>>53081 Just a delay. No big deal right now.

>>53076 >when the world needed him most, he returned

>>52774 >>52778 I'm guessing Elio must have had a disastrously poor showing and zero advertising because I have barely even seen any fanart of it.

>>53270 Poor box office yes. Zero advertising no. It was constantly advertised in theater trailers. Even the original trailer before the delays for reproduction changes. It's just literally a movie that was made only the director that lost even that aspect in the final version because Disney wouldn't let him make it outright gay enough. It would have definitely had a gay interracial romance subplot along with a cut clone concept that would culminate in a Steven Universe style acceptance speech with hugs.

>>53277 Not an exaggeration. This is all present in the concept art. Pixar probably scrapped all these elements because they saw the social tide shifting along with the diminishing returns for all these movies like Turning Red that were too "personal" to put it lightly rather than actually made to appeal to audiences. Ironically still giving the reins to Turning Red's director who still made a boring movie for no one.

Can we talk about the elephant in the room please?

>>53279 He's not cute. The artstyle sucks.

>>53279 You mean how he sits in the third pic, indicating that he's effeminate? Women and fags sit cross-legged with their thighs touching like that. Regular guys leave some sort a gap between their legs.

What's this I hear about Gunn's new Supes film and people attempting to treat it like the next culture war movie?

>>53293 It's a modern mainstream movie, even worse it's a modern superhero flick hot off the heels of Black Captain America and The Marvels. It was gonna be a culture war movie even if it was two hours of Power Girl paizuri-ing Superman, anything with a projected audience of 10 million+ is.

>>53293 >>53300 Here comes the airplane! Open wide! NYEEEEERRRRRRHH

>>53286 >>53287 It's pedo pandering. No actual little boy acts like that.

>>53302 >basic human kindness is a value and is something we have lost I wonder (((who))) is responsible for that...

>>53303 If it were pedo pandering, they'd make him actually cute & appealing to look at first.

>>53279 >>53287 >>53303 >No actual little boy acts like that. >You mean how he sits in the third pic, indicating that he's effeminate? >mfw I use to sit like that all the time as a kid.

>>53388 It's pseudoscientific nonsense, don't pay it too much mind

>>53046 He did get butthurt over the Dilbert porn. >>53302 >Muh retarded super-strawman works perfectly against Orange Man It was a matter of time for Superman to become another Gary Stu besides Mark Miller's Batman, but then what to expect from James Gunn the dudebro when he's not projecting his pedophilic fantasies.

I am pleasantly surprised to report that Superman is very good. Feel free to ask questions. >>53418 Calm down. The Gunns are just being retarded. It's the same vein as Verhoeven or twitter retards saying the humans in Starship Troopers are the bad guys. It's a director saying one thing that's not actually in the movie. There's no overt political messaging at all. The most you get that you can maybe construe as political is Superman saying he's just as human as everyone else speech to Lex. But he specifically says alien & any sort of outright comparisons to illegals just kinda makes Gunn look bad by implying immigrants aren't human. It's a read between the lines message at best.

>>53423 >Feel free to ask questions. Are you paid by the post or hourly?

>>53426 You guys are getting paid?!

>>53423 Don't you shills understand that NO ONE here pays for movies?

>>52946 >>53277 >>53278 I don't know how you fuck this concept up so badly. >have perfect setup for a reverse Lilo % Stitch (boy gets taken to meat aliens as opposed to a girl has aliens come visit her) <decide instead to make it Gayniggers from Outer Space II: Shotacon Edition >have to scrap all that because major social shift and ebbing good will for your company <make the final cut be a movie about nothing instead The funny thing is that it's still getting flack for being gay propaganda for kids, even though all the gay stuff was excised. So it's really been the worst of all possible situations. >director wanted to make a semi-autobiographical animated movie about how he became gay <in the US, for Disney Why do people do this kind of thing? Just make your gay cartoon not marketed to kids and produced by Childhood Inc. I understand that in the US that it's very hard and the only two kinds of viable sorts of cartoons are basically Care Bears type or Family Guy type and the middle ground is a wasteland with the Shrek oasis the only stop along the way, but just go make your cartoon in Japan or Europe or somewhere. The director apparently has been move to Coco 2's production too. I guess we'll see if they try to make Miguel a "bone collector" in that movie.

>>53453 <decide instead to make it Gayniggers from Outer Space II: Shotacon Edition No no. They decided to make it Gaybeaner Shota IN Outer Space. >Why do people do this kind of thing? Ego. Pixar gave these people a platform to tell their stories but forgot to tell them they have to make them actually appealing to audiences first. It's just like Turning Red. Having strict parents is not a uniquely asian concept. All the period shit was inappropriate & gross when the concept of a magical animal transformation was enough to appeal to kids. Fucked that concept up too by making them built like theme park mascot suits instead of slender & cute like actual red pandas. Basically Pixar gave people free rein but set no boundaries & forgot their target audiences. So you end up with movies made for no one but the directors.

https://archive.ph/u9z8Q lol

>>53453 >Why do people do this kind of thing? Just make your gay cartoon not marketed to kids and produced by Childhood Inc. There's a whole list of reasons, with everything ranging from how they see "zero problems" with make a cartoon intended for kids entirely about sexual activity to how they see it as "teaching" people how to be more tolerant and accepting.

James Gunn really needs to stop putting his daddy issues in movies.

>>53556 >putting his daddy issues in movies Has anyone else noticed how much modern society absolutely loathes their parents to the point that they outright cut them out of their life entirely? I know that there are shit ones out there, but not "every" parent is terrible. And even then, more often than not, it's because they didn't have good role models to refer to either on how to "be an adult".

>>53556 >>53560 This is a modern media issue in general. Just look Vivzie's hell stuff. It's all crying about daddy issues & gay relationships. Most woke media is going to have some daddy issues brought up somewhere like The Acolyte. Really makes you think.

>>53563 >Most woke media is going to have some daddy issues brought up somewhere. Leftism ultimately amounts to "screw you dad".

>>53581 Because the main conflict between left and right is just "We're smarter than the people who came before us and they have nothing to teach us." vs. "There is wisdom in the past that we would do well to heed rather than charging ahead recklessly pursuing change for the sake of change"

>>53514 Pretty much this. These kinds of people see it as a mission. Like, remember when John Oliver produced a kid's picture book to "teach" about homosex all because he was butthurt about Mike Pence. These people are weird.

I couldn't find anything on the catalog specific to questionable comic covers, but i assume it's fine for the thread. Got it from site rel: https://archive.is/FAYWO

>>53679 That's the result of lazy ass 3D model posing over actual art.

>>53560 They came up with the idea of retirement homes, why would you expect anything else?

>>53279 >Can we talk about the elephant in the room please? What is there to talk about? he was based on the director when he way that age and gay as hell. The producers decided to tone that shit down after he fucked off because the marketing team expected more Republican backlash.

>>53571 It... doesn't look horrible?

>>53705 It looks cheap.

>>53423 literally the most anti white coded shit in a while.

>>53717 You're talking through your ass.

>>53717 The actor playing superman is jewish and superman is a representation of the jewish golem >>40367

All this time later & the fag still has no actual points against the Superman movie. It's just typical shit stirring. Hate James Gunn all you want for the right reasons. The movie's good & if anything somehow is rightwing. You got a straight romance, Jimmy's not race swapped, the men are actually competent, got a comically disgusting looking vaguely Balkan dictator who people keep comparing to Netanyahu, & a celebration of rural living family. The wokest subversive things about the film are Perry White being black again for no reason & Supergirl being an irresponsible drunk. Immigrants are never even brought up. The Jor-El message twist is not even subversive either when every version of Krypton has shown it's corrupt in some way & shown he can view other races as lesser compared to them.

>>53775 I'd have spoiled the Supergirl stuff but I think everyone's who's followed stuff about the movie for months knew she was gonna show up at the very end. Plus the drunk characterization is unfortunately pulled from the Woman of Tomorrow. Which we know they're supposedly basing her movie on. I hope the renege on that idea though & pull more from past Supergirl comics. Unlike Superman, people need to see HER origins because the average person isn't familiar with her. The rumors of Lobo being in it are at least a step in the right direction to do more than Tom King's self insert sob story therapy session #5.

>>53775 >The Jor-El message twist is not even subversive either when every version of Krypton has shown it's corrupt in some way Not all of them, no. And Jor-el is supposed to be the exception. >& shown he can view other races as lesser compared to them. The times in the comics where he did so were all character assassinations, like this film. Jor-el and Lara's deaths are supposed to be a tragedy. This is the same garbage as making Batman's parents evil.

>>53783 >Not all of them, no. And Jor-el is supposed to be the exception. True but it is more comic accurate in inspiration than the Donner or Snyder versions. Don't of it as he wants Kal-El to conquer for the sake of it but rather he just wants his son to survive & propagate the species on a primitive world knowing they're all going to die on Krypton. >Jor-el and Lara's deaths are supposed to be a tragedy. It is still a tragedy. An entire race gone & reduced to two known survivors. Again we can't just assume right away the Kryptonians were evil over Jor-El just wanting his son to survive the best way he could on Earth. The next movie from Kara's perspective should show more of what Krypton was really like & how it's destruction broke her.

>>53775 >>53777 Okay, I'm still NOT going to see it. Because of everything having to do with Gunn, everything have to do with WB, and everything having to do with capeshit. I'm tired of it and want these companies to fucking walk away. >I'd have spoiled the Supergirl stuff but I think everyone's who's followed stuff about the movie for months knew she was gonna show up at the very end. ANOTHER reason why I won't see it. Half of the films marketing is about how the films is about everyone BUT Clark. When it's not showing off C-listers, it's about how Supes exists as a "symbol of hope". And I'm sorry, but that's not Superman. He's just a regular ass guy who wants to help out, and only has superpowers because he's from another planet. Anything more than that is projecting your beliefs onto him. If they want me to go see a "Superman movie", what they need to do is make the movie about Clark Kent. Ignorant green reporter for the Daily Planet, who receives no respect from senior reporter Lois Lane who he was a crush on, followed around by silly photographer Jimmy, who happens to get in over his head more than he would like, and has to resort to his powers resulting from his alien heritage in order to get out of trouble and save the day. Why not make a story about that?

>>53798 >ANOTHER reason why I won't see it. Half of the films marketing is about how the films is about everyone BUT Clark. It's the first movie in a new universe. Superman has a big cast to work with already & there's an establishment that heroes already exist in this world. It's not a big deal. If you'd actually watch you, you'd see it is still Clark's story. >it's about how Supes exists as a "symbol of hope". And I'm sorry, but that's not Superman. Okay now blindly praise the Snyderverse next.

>>53802 >It's the first movie in a new universe. I don't care. >Superman has a big cast to work Yes, because people want to go to a SUPERMAN movie to see Green Lantern and Mr. Teriffic. >& there's an establishment that heroes already exist in this world So? The original Superman cartoon explained that Bruce had been engaging in shenanigans for several years by that point. Static Shock happens concurrently with Justice League. The Doctor Strange and Ant-Man films happened several years deep into the events of the MCU. Yet none of these shows or films needed to market themselves or focus extensively on it being about everyone BUT the main characters who the story is named after. >If you'd actually watch you, you'd see it is still Clark's story. Going by everything that I've seen an heard, it isn't. It's Gunn using Superman to push a political message about how "we need human kindness" like the audience and everyone watching the movie is eight years old and needs to walk away with a "moral lesson". I thought we were BEYOND creatives being "required" to include a message on basic morality, but apparently we really haven't. It's just instead shifted to pushing political messaging that benefits Progressives instead. >Okay now blindly praise the Snyderverse next. Why are you acting like the "only" reason I "hate" Gunn's Superman is because I'm a fan of Snyder? Have you ever considered the possibility that I think both are shit? Especially when the best content the Snyderverse was capable of producing was Shazam 1 and Aquaman 1 (Both films that also did exactly what I talked about up above).

>>53805 >So? The original Superman cartoon explained that Bruce had been engaging in shenanigans for several years by that point. Static Shock happens concurrently with Justice League. The Doctor Strange and Ant-Man films happened several years deep into the events of the MCU. Yet none of these shows or films needed to market themselves or focus extensively on it being about everyone BUT the main characters who the story is named after. Because those are entirely separate TV show projects. There was time to give them independent settings without intersecting with the wider world constantly. You have limited time to establish worldbuilding in a movie universe format. Again though, if you ACTUALLY would WATCH the movie, you'd see your worries unfounded. >Going by everything that I've seen an heard, it isn't. It's Gunn using Superman to push a political message about how "we need human kindness" like the audience and everyone watching the movie is eight years old and needs to walk away with a "moral lesson". You're falling for the outside marketing from Gunn. The movie isn't a soapbox, as I've already said in this thread. And yes, moral lessons SHOULD exist in superhero stories. That's the whole point. Just being nice is the most basic human empathy lesson. >Why are you acting like the "only" reason I "hate" Gunn's Superman is because I'm a fan of Snyder? Have you ever considered the possibility that I think both are shit? Especially when the best content the Snyderverse was capable of producing was Shazam 1 and Aquaman 1 (Both films that also did exactly what I talked about up above). You come off exactly like one that just blindly complains about SUPERMAN of all characters being hopeful & not constantly angsty about his dead planet he never knew. >Shazam 1 A worse version of the already bad New 52 story that wrote in a way to spread Captain Marvel's powers apart in the worst way. >Aquaman 1 Decent at best. Of course a movie set underwater is not going to involve other characters. Especially when Arthur hasn't come into his throne yet. Regardless this is empty praise for movies just doing the bare minimum of focusing on their main characters. Which Superman does. You literally just actively refuse to see it.

>>53806 >Because those are entirely separate TV show projects. So? >There was time to give them independent settings without intersecting with the wider world constantly. You have limited time to establish worldbuilding in a movie universe format. Then perhaps they should give up trying to make these gigantic cross media franchises in some pathetic attempt to imitate the MCU. How about they just go back to independent movies with independent stories being the norm? >Again though, if you ACTUALLY would WATCH the movie, you'd see your worries unfounded. I am not going to watch it because of everything surrounding the film, and I'm not the only one with that opinion. I've seen numerable other people declare that the film could contain the secrets of the universe, and they couldn't give less of a shit in wanting to see it. >You're falling for the outside marketing from Gunn. Yes because it's HIS movie. THIS is "suppose" to be the big budget blockbuster that's suppose to kick off HIS vision of what a DC Cinematic Universe is going to be. And with that being the case, I have absolutely zero interest in watching it, and everything new coming out about the movie makes it look worse and worse. >The movie isn't a soapbox Yes, it is. >And yes, moral lessons SHOULD exist in superhero stories No, they shouldn't. That's not their purpose. Their purpose is to entertain the audience. If I wanted a lecturing, I would have gone to the $60 local GOP luncheon I've been receiving emails about for the past two months. >You come off exactly like one that just blindly complains about SUPERMAN of all characters being hopeful Because that's not Clark's character. He's a regular guy who grew up in Kansas and just happens to be one of the most powerful beings in the universe. "Hope" doesn't play a factor in it. In fact, why "does" he even "need" "hope" in the first place? He was raised by two loving parents, is friends with practically everyone around him, and is physically capable of doing the impossible. He should be one of the most confident people in the DC Universe, yet we "need" a story about how needs to "find hope"? I guess we also need the prequel to that story about how he only lost his "hope" in in the first place after he was raped in a Soviet prison. Because, after all, THAT'S the story that "definately" needs to be told.

>>53808 >Then perhaps they should give up trying to make these gigantic cross media franchises in some pathetic attempt to imitate the MCU. How about they just go back to independent movies with independent stories being the norm? Because this is a business. >I am not going to watch it because of everything surrounding the film, and I'm not the only one with that opinion. I've seen numerable other people declare that the film could contain the secrets of the universe, and they couldn't give less of a shit in wanting to see it. You don't have to like Gunn. I don't like what he did with the characters in his GotG movies. But when you have information at hand that's informing you he's full of shit on the soapboxing he wants to market the movie on then you're just being stubborn to not give the movie a chance. >No, they shouldn't. That's not their purpose. Their purpose is to entertain the audience. You're an idiot then. Heroes stories have always been about goodness & teaching lessons. >Because that's not Clark's character. He's a regular guy who grew up in Kansas and just happens to be one of the most powerful beings in the universe. "Hope" doesn't play a factor in it. Being a regular guy with superpowers isn't allowed to inspire hope because...??? Peter Parker is a regular guy. As Spider-man he inspires hope. All heroes are supposed to inspire & be looked up to as paragons because they use their powers to help others. This shouldn't need explaining. I don't think you've ever touched a comic book past the 40s.

>>53809 >Because this is a business. Okay. They're losing money. They've BEEN losing money. All in the name of trying to make a DCCU. Perhaps it's a good idea to stop wasting money on projects doomed to fail, or that they cannot spend the time actually doing properly, and instead invest that money in ventures that actually WILL bring in money. >But when you have information at hand that's informing you he's full of shit on the soapboxing he wants to market the movie on It's HIS movie How many times to I have to say that? He's the one preaching to people about what the "point" of the movie is going to be. So, yes, I am going to take HIS word as gospel, regarding what HIS movie is about, and proceed to not see HIS movie. What's so hard to understand about that? >Heroes stories have always been about goodness & teaching lessons. No, they haven't. Even the "oldest" stories about heroes, refering to things like the Ancient Greek myths, what made someone a "hero" was that it was a tale about a person who was capable of accomplishing amazing feats. That was it. It didn't exist as some "grand lesson" for society. In fact, someone the "oldest" heroes on record were corrupt as shit, even by their own society's standards. So, no. Stop with the political messaging and go back to stories being about amazing people experiencing or doing amazing things. >All heroes are supposed to inspire & be looked up to as paragons because they use their powers to help others. No, they're not. If you want an example, look at the classic American hero John McClain. A character who keeps doing heroic feats and saving the day repeatedly, but receives nothing but shit for doing it. Even Peter receives nothing but shit for being Spider-Man: <He lost his Uncle <He lost his first girlfriend <His best friends become some of his greatest enemies <He receives zero respect from anyone <The universe bends over backwards to reset his life and progress back to zero on numerous occasions <And even the company who produces his own fucking comics is constantly trying to replace him with different characters Why would anyone want to become THAT?

>>53810 >Okay. They're losing money. They've BEEN losing money. Yes very good. That's why they've made a new universe to retry. >It's his movie >How many times to I have to say that? Directors can be wrong about their movies. Paul Verhoeven is a prominent example. You're an idiot. I'm not going to try to continue arguing with you when you don't understand superheroes at all.

>>53563 >>53278 >the social tide shift Everyone keeps pointing to this, and I see it, but does anyone honestly expect hollywood to go along with it? Arent they basically dying on the orange man bad hill along with everything that includes? It's not like the eurofags are doing much better.

>>53820 Yes. They know trying to continue chasing the "bigger audience" isn't profitable.

>>53794 >Don't of it as he wants Kal-El to conquer for the sake of it The movie paints them as explicitly villainous, and basically has Clark renouncing his Kryptonian heritage, because they’re asshole. It’s an oversimplification of the whole “superman is the most human of us all” schtick. It was never necessary to throw Krypton, and especially not Jor-El, under the bus to have this theme. >It is still a tragedy. An entire race gone & reduced to two known survivors I had a feeling you’d say this. A million is a statistic. The audience cannot feel sorry for Krypton if the only two examples of its culture are assholes whose only narrative reason for existing is to be disowned by Superman.

>>53822 It's painted as villainous as a way for Luthor to turn everyone against Superman. From Jor-El's perspective, it may not be. Which is why the Supergirl movie need to pull the weight on showing Krypton & why Kara would be sad it's gone.

>>53821 I'm sorta with >>53820 on this one. There'll be pressure sure, but the leftists will try as much malicious compliance as possible by ONLY removing as much as they were ordered (or in some cartoons' cases, going full gay in the finale ala Korra to "immortalize" it) - and however many mass layoffs they do, there's incumbent cliques of directors and other creatives everywhere like roaches, and there's still employees who fall under the radar by controlling the hiring processes like (((Human Resources))). >>53777 >I hope the renege on that idea though & pull more from past Supergirl comics. Unlike Superman, people need to see HER origins because the average person isn't familiar with her. I'm too cynical to give the benefit of the doubt; I can already picture Gunn not helping himself and leaning INTO that for the sake of low-brow comedy (and a possible need to get his rocks off) after earning enough goodwill that a desperate-to-have-cinematic-universe DC will let him do whatever he wants like Marvel does Kevin Feige, and it being justified (likely by stockholm syndromed fans) because "mainstream audiences didn't care before Gunn came alone" - ala the Guardians of The Galaxy (minor miracle Rocket Raccoon got into MVC3 to act as a monument of pre-MCU. Shame it was either him or Squirrel Girl).

>>53828 Well anything that makes them continue to lose money is all the better then. Sure some things slip through & succeed on nostalgia like HTTYD live action remake but there's always more woke crap especially in animation that fails. We'll see but I don't think Gunn's even directing the Supergirl movie. Just kinda overseeing things like an executive producer.

>>53829 Bet, it will gonna be like the G1 abridged serie.

>>53829 dang it might actually release in 2027.

>>53836 Meegan

It's probably because people didn't watch it because it was obviously going to be shit but there's not enough of anyone talking about just HOW much of a mess The Flash movie really is. It goes far beyond the shitty comedic writing & bad CGI. The time travel alone makes no sense as the movie can't keep the rules consistent so it's constantly contradicting itself. This is a result of trying to do Flashpoint without being faithful to just the basic premise. Okay so Flash going back in time to save his mom from.... something we never find out, somehow changes the timeline but not really because it's an alternate universe created. But distinctly NOT a branching timeline. Resulting in two Barrys but when they keep time traveling later this somehow doesn't put them into other universes they're accidentally creating with other versions of themselves? This also contradicts Zack Snyder's cut of Justice League where Barry time travels to stop Steppenwolf from winning. So does that mean Barry didn't do shit & just created another universe without another Barry? See the problem here? To top that mess off, the "moral message" of the movie is to just let things go. Which would be a fine message if the time travel made sense & it wasn't referenced from Barry's mom saying there's no solution to a math problem on Barry's homework. That's retarded. Again you need to actually USE Flashpoint as the blueprint rather than taking the basic broad strokes without understanding them. The point of letting go worked in the comic because it was his mom's choice to save countless others over her. That ties into the paradoxical nature of the conclusion being better too as it's Barry stopping himself in the past. Not fighting himself from another universe twice over in an impossible paradox.

>>53955 And to continue kicking a dead horse, the ending doesn't even make sense. Barry "learns his lesson" on letting go..... only to immediately contradict this back in his own universe by moving the tomato cans to the top shelf. Which, by this movie's logic, should have created a new universe. But instead it's just treated as a joke to have George Clooney make a cameo. So in the end, Barry learns nothing & doesn't grow as a character at all. Rather than using this movie as a catalyst to explain a soft rebooted universe under Gunn, the best option would be to ignore this movie entirely. The Gunnverse could just exist on it's own but Peacemaker is unfortunately the key to all of this that's somehow tying the universes together & I don't trust them to give a satisfying answer regarding the shared history of events coinciding with his cameo in Superman.

>>53829 >pic <<Every /co/ user collectively commit suicide Well that last part didn't age well considering nowadays with alt-chans and the baby proof sites absorbing everyone. I wish they had that idea back then during the peak of Lauren Faust's MLP, witnessing bronies jumping off a bridge after seeing their beloved "cartoon4realgirls" tarnished by out of touch suits.

>>53829 Please... don't fuck it up

>>53955 >I csn travel through time, my not dead anymore Mom, but I accidentally killed millions of people and need to use this thing called the Cosmic Treadmill >This is treated as a serious discussion I suddenly understand why comic nerds were bullied so often.

>>54021 That kind of thinking is why we get so much tacticool & irony poisoned shit in hollywood. Weird out there scifi concepts are fine if you treat it sincerely. Flash is a speedster. Something that can utilize his powers of running fast makes sense.

>>54223 Video actually got me.

>>53957 When I read your post the other day I was really worried you meant the Ezra Miller Flash was going to make a cameo in Superman. Good God was I relieved that didn't happen.

>>54295 No but the director for The Flash movie is still helmed for Batman AFAIK.

>>53571 The plot summaries are out

>>54449 it sounds mediocre.

>>54449 I'm still worried about the poly character being either Bobby or Connie.

A third season of that new Proud Family show will be coming shortly this August. Special guest star Neil the Black Science Man will appear.

>>54492 There was a second season?

>>54492 >BLACK PEOPLE CAN’T BE RACIST! someone tell me, how is this getting a third season again?

>>54496 >>54509 A cartoon's initial season seems to be two or three that are funded by whoever thinks this is great and/or funny. Speaking of which, there's another season of that Sausage Party show that's also coming this August.

>>54492 Did anyone even watch the first two seasons? When is jakub gonna appear?

>>54528 On streaming for sure? Who knows. Hate watchers hopefully pirated. The problem is the actual black audience that blindly follow the revived show's politics. I think most people have only seen it through clips of it's stupidest moments. Which are a lot considering the gays, the modern race politics, & Zoey's friends all being horrible people to her over her wanting to date a guy just because he has a preference.

I don't know which thread would be best but since you've all been talking about the movie I'll blab about it here. I saw the new Superman movie the other day and it was pretty good! Not amazing, but it was good. The tone really stood out as very balanced between super serious shit like the last ten years of Snyder and Invicible and The Boys have been and more lighthearted and fun superhero stuff. For instance some brown guy gets executed point blank by Lex Luthor and then like two scenes later Metamorpho makes a pocket sun and starts flying around as a head with stretchy tentacles to save his ugly green baby from a black hole. It had a decent variety of characters beyond just Superman that made it fun to see how they were handled too, though another superhero/supervillain cameo would have been nice. Pacing was alright, casting for pretty much everyone was really good (I enjoyed Lex Luthor more than I thought I would), and it's the first time I've seem Jimmy Olsen just be some ginger dweeb in probably over a decade. It was also really fun seeing Metamorpho of all characters have a ton of screen time. Also very much enjoyed Mr. Terrific. Like the one anon said though they made Perry White black for no real reason, but that's probably the only "progressive" thing I can nitpick about the movie. The message was also a little cheesy ("Your actions decide who you are") but solid, and in line with the character of Superman. Also having seen the movie there's literally no talk of immigrants at all, beyond there being a war in the middle-Whatever. Superman only has a dialogue about being "just as human as everyone else" but that's because he's a fucking alien. One thing that sort of bothered me though was it had a confused sense of what time period it was meant to take place in. Like, it's the modern day and everyone has smartphones and shit. But the Justice League Gang is only just forming (they're still etching "Hall of Justice" into the building) and that's in addition to the fact that apparently superheroes "metahumans" have been around for 300 years? Like, what happened in that time? Especially since it's about a young Superman it almost felt like a retro-future setting would have made more sense but that's also what the new Fantastic Four movie is doing so maybe that's why they didn't? Does that mean when a Justice League movie comes out like 4-5 years from now it's going to take place in 2040 or something to make sense chronologically? Also why did Superman have like a dozen robot butlers? Is that a thing in the comics? The whole thing about being part of the "Gunn Universe" is also giving me a headache because apparently only this and some of Creature Commandos and Peacemaker are all canon together? And the Gunn-Batman is going to be another different Batman from the Pattinson Batman even though that literally just came out and both are DC and both he and Corenswet are playing young versions of their characters? What? I know I'm retarded but why? Does nobody plan any of this shit out, ever? Also I kept thinking David Corenswet was that fucker from The Office, which is ironic since apparently he voiced superman in the dumb super-pets movie.

>>54619 >One thing that sort of bothered me though was it had a confused sense of what time period it was meant to take place in. It is in modern day. As for the existence of metahumans & a group like the Justice Gang just forming, there is a reference to others. If you look up in the background inside the Hall of Justice, you can see a mural of The JSA. So they're not the first. My hope is we slowly build up a real Justice League. Superman being young just means they can have a main line up of league members they can use for years to come. As opposed to the actors cast for characters they clearly won't use long like Guy or Hal. Yes the robots were a thing in the Pre-Flashpoint comics. Most famously in All-Star Superman though that was it's own canon story. Yes Superman is part of the Gunnverse along with Creature Commandos & Peacemaker season 2 only. I don't know if you're only unfamiliar with Superman comics but DC doing a reboot/reset of the universe but having holdover events canon in some way isn't new. Very confusing though. Basically you just have to remember events similar to THE Suicide Squad & Peacemaker season 1 are still canon but a lot of details are different. This isn't actually connected to the Snyderverse. Peacemaker season 2 is following the Gunnverse version. All the younger versions of characters like Superman & probably Batman are their own versions for this universe.

>>54518 Sausage Party has a show? Didn't it legendarily bomb because the kind of normalfags who watch adult movies instinctively associate "animated" with "kids' movie" and didn't go?

>>54637 Yep but that didnt stop amazon from greenlighting a sequel series nobody watched.

>>54509 Because disney was too deep into production to pull the plug and they need content for D+, and unlike zaslav, they refuse to shitcan anything for taxes.

>>54453 all of these FOX-gisnep revivals have been. >>54449 You have to love how the status quo of the 2020's is to focus neither on quality nor quantity, and so you get 10 episodes of the most mediocre dogshit a year. Remember the Beavis and Butthead revival? Remember how Beavis became a FOTM for normalfag internet women because he was established to be a victim of Butthead's bullying? Nobody's talking about that show now. And sure the movie was fun but I cant say I saw a single soul fellating the actual show.

Rest in peace, Hulk Hogan. https://archive.is/EdEtc

Well this just keeps getting worse. Now Chuck Mangione is dead at 84.

>>54669 This guy died recently, too.

>>54669 (F) There goes a real American o7 >>54686 Jesus seems like people are dropping like flies week to week now. I still havent really gotten over Trevor Moore's passing.

>>54689 what was his name?

>>54691 Allister-something. Some kind of freak accident with an MRI.

>>54713 Har har. No that was just some idiotic old nig at an incompetent MRI facility.

>>54689 Junkyard dog has been dead since 1998, his VA James Avery died in 2013.

>>54669 >Hulk Hogan cartoon Has anyone photoshopped the dead WWE characters into black and white?

>>54760 >Junkyard Dog >Captain Lou >Roddy Piper >Andre the Giant >"Mean" Gene Okerlund Don't know most of the others, but I know the Iron Sheik is still around.

>>54761 >Iron Sheik Both the impersonator and him are dead too, Sheik's last appearance was in Robot Chicken.

>>54761 >>54669

>>54789 Updated to the include the other wrestlers who died >Nikolai Volkoff (Left of Hulk) >Mr. Fuji (Far Left) >Fabulous Moolah (2nd Left) >Tito Santana (3rd Right) Thus, the only holdout left is James Morris aka 'Hillbilly Jim'. He just turned 73 this July.

"In the time of the Aztec Empire, young Aztec boy Yohualli Coatl experiences tragedy when his father and village leader, Toltecatzin, is murdered by Spanish Conquistadors. Yohualli escapes to Tenochtitlan to warn King Moctezuma and his high priest, Yoka, of imminent danger. Using the temple of Tzinacan, the bat god, as a lair, Yohualli trains with his mentor and assistant, Acatzin, developing equipment and weaponry to confront the Spaniard invasion, protect Moctezuma’s temple and avenge his father’s death." https://www.animationmagazine.net/2022/06/hbo-max-latam-unveils-batman-azteca-at-giff/ Aztec Batman... I thought this had to be a fan created parody at first. Out of the all the Mesoamerican civilizations at the time they went with the most evil one Batman could have come from. What is Batman fighting for here? Torturing and sacrificing children to Tláloc for rain? Slavery? Ripping out still beating hearts and wearing freshly flayed human skin for the Xipe Totec? Flower Wars? Yeah, the Spanish Conquistadors did horrible things, but the other side was literally mass torturing and sacrificing people as part of their religious practices and subjugation of other civilizations to the point the Spanish armies were mostly natives Cortez convinced to ally with him because they hated the Aztecs that much. I've seen Aztec apologism and whataboutism online before, but what DC exec greenlit this and thought this is appropriate for Batman? It reminds me of people who try to make Chaos the good guys for fighting the Imperium in 40k despite the Warp being a psychic hell dimension with demons that will happily skull fuck your soul for eternity or worse.

>>54827 It's extremely tone deaf yes. A civilization that made mountains of skulls out of sacrificing men, women, & children should neither be shown positively nor attached to Batman of all DC heroes.

>>54827 Watching the recent trailer, I can see how a setting like this could work. Cortez as Two Face kinda makes sense due to his parents wanting him to be a lawyer and the guy did both good and bad. The Joker could work as an insane Aztec priest since blood, sacrifices, madness, and hungering gods would be fitting. Even the Aztec sacrifices and slavery could work as Tenochtitlan's version of Gotham's internal corruption that Batman also has to fight against, but the description from the 2022 article and that the Spanish are apparently the main villains in the recent trailer looks like there's definitely going to be some historical revisionism and attempt at Aztec apologism. Mesoamerican Batman Elseworld could work and I like the overall aesthetic. Just don't make him Aztec at least. Why not make Batman a noble or prince who's parents the Aztecs brutally sacrificed in front of him? Enemy nobility was even specifically desirable for certain Aztec sacrifices. That would make a much better story and be more fitting for Batman than him fighting on the side of the Aztecs and their Emperor.

>>54827 >Aztec Batman with the Spaniards as the villains >And he's so fucking weak that a woman needs to do his job for him I thought David was suppose to be the one ending all of this shit. Also the animation is REALLY terrible. <What is Batman fighting for here? You have a lot of Progressives that unironically believe that the human sacrifices the Aztecs were practicing was a lie made up by "white colonizers". Or that there was literally "nothing wrong" with it because they see savages as being closer to goodhood than civilized societies. >>54835 >Why not make Batman a noble or prince who's parents the Aztecs brutally sacrificed in front of him? Because there were "no other" tribes. All of the world was one big happy family until the "white colonizers" came and ruined it for everyone. It's only after that time that you "begin" to find different tribes. I'm just repeating what these people literally believe.

>>54808 Correction: Tito Santana isn't dead yet

The 2019/2020 Micronauts netflix cartoon has been leaked. You can find it all over youtube rn. You have to act fast though, it got pulled down from the internet archive. The show's pretty shitty in all honesty.

superman(2025) is currently the highest grossing superhero movie of the year and the highest grossing superman movie ever released featuring superman by name in the title as the sole title character funfact last years the garfield movie(2024) was also the highest grossing garfield movie ever released and these two films are related to each other by the fact that the voice actor for jon arbuckle played lex luthor

>>55078 No Streaky the Supercat orange cat connection though.

>>55078 >and the highest grossing superman movie ever released featuring superman by name in the title as the sole title character That seems like an oddly specific metric. I take it that the movie underperformed despite it's supposed "widespread success". >funfact last years the garfield movie(2024) was also the highest grossing garfield movie ever You idiots do realize that ALL media is releasing in more global markets than ever before, right? And as a byproduct of that, they're also making "more money" than ever before because they're reaching to more audiences. In addition to that, you haven't accounted for things like inflation. Back when Man Of Steel and Superman Returns came out, films tickets cost $8. Today in 2025, it's $13 for a ticket ($10-$12 if you're a child/senior). So let's break down what that means in terms of viewers. Keep in mind that the way theaters work is that they provide the company 100% of the profits for the first 2-4 weeks of a movie's premier, and then split some percentage with the studio any time after than point. Just worth noting for error purposes. At $8 a ticket, that breaks down to about 25 million people seeing Returns and 36 million seeing MOS. By contrast, nuSupes has 22 million people seeing the film with it having grossed $289,501,578 according to BoxOffice Mojo as of this post. Yes, nuSupes is performing worse than Super NTR Man. But I don't think that's going to stop shills from talking about this movie like it's some cultural milestone.

>>55080 Everything about globohomo society is so fake and gay we truly wont know what this film's legacy (or FF's) will truly be until 1 to 5 years out from now. Having said as much they both come across as utterly soulless and heartless attempts to beat the dying capeshit horse. Neither felt like the dawn of a new era but rahter more of the same/business as usual in different drapings. Hard to get excited for anything at this point when it's all gotten so formulaic.

>>55078 I still cant believe Prattfield 2 is happening. We need to coin a term for this new wave of retro children's ip revivals. 20 years ago the big trend was hyper real renditions of these sort of characters, but many were still culturally relevant then (sans a few exceptions like Yogi Bear or Rocky and Bullwinkle). By contrast the move nowadays is to retain that same tired "x character comes to the real world" formula but utilizing this 2D-looking 3D in place of the ugly hyper realistic designs. Everything else from the absurd fixation on product placement and pop music/pop culture references sadly has remained in place.

>>55092 I know you didn't see Superman.

>>55098 Whatever fag

>>55100 Proving my point. I'm not usually the type that says you have to see a movie to actually judge it but Superman is one of those movies. Fantastic Four is the opposite where what you see is what you get & if you don't like what the trailers show then you won't like it. Which is more of the norm for movies.

>>55078 >>55080 tbf Garfield is literally one of the biggest and most profitable comic IPs in the world. Like at an insane level.

>>55101 >I'm not usually the type that says you have to see a movie to actually judge it but Superman is one of those movies. And no one cares. Gunn could have replaced the subtitles with the names from the Epstein Files, and people would still refuse to see it.

>>55113 I know you live in a bubble but people have been seeing it. Stop letting Gunn as a person dissuade you.

>>55114 >Stop letting Gunn as a person dissuade you. Stop letting the very director of a movie, and everything surrounding him, dissuage me from seeing his movie. Are you for real?

>>55115 He's committed no crime, only said stupid shit that's not in the actual movie, & you don't even need to see Creature Commandos to watch Superman. Yes you're only being stubborn by refusing to watch the movie just over Gunn's comments.

>>55117 >He's committed no crime, only said stupid shit that's not in the actual movie I don't care. What part about that do you not understand? >you don't even need to see Creature Commandos to watch Superman I have zero intention of seeking either. >you're only being stubborn by refusing to watch the movie just over Gunn's comments His comments are the cherry on top for a whole host of reasons why I refused to watch the film.

>>55118 Then you're just lame refusing to see a movie for no good reason.

>>55119 >you're just lame refusing to see a movie Is that honestly and unironically your best insult?

>>55120 It's just facts. There's nothing left to say. There's no way to argue with you if you refuse to give it a chance without ANY good reason.

>>55118 You sound like a gay retard.

>>55121 >There's no way to argue with you if you refuse to give it a chance without ANY good reason. I have given you "good" reasons, you just refuse to believe that they are "good" because you're a pawn for these companies. <Using a webm from Avatar 2 Jeez, you really ARE a shill.

>>55128 You've said nothing beyond you just hating James Gunn. Which would be fine if you don't like his movies. But you've been told directly none of his comments on what the movie is about are true & that it's his most subdued movie that tries to be more comic book. So if that's still not enough to get you to see it then you're a lost cause. You even presume I'm shilling for James Cameron's Avatar based on a reaction clip.

>>55130 Glasses yelling FAGGOTE is the type of energy I want.

>>55130 >You've said nothing beyond you just hating James Gunn <Any criticism of nuSupes is just people hating Gunn <Any other criticism is just a deflection for how much they hate Gunn

>>55135 You're really making an ass of yourself making a lot of assumptions. You haven't seen the movie nor raised any points against the movie.

>>55137 >You haven't seen the movie And have no intention to. >nor raised any points against the movie. I did, several dozen posts ago if you bothered to scroll up. Unless you're the person that went: <All your reasons for not going to see the movie are wrong and stupid

>>55138 Again no you haven't. Your points only extend to Gunn himself. That's nothing to do with the movie. Stop going in circles.

>You just refuse to see the movie because of James Gunn <Gunn is one of the reasons I will not see it, but not the only reason >No, it's only because of Gunn <What about all the other reasons I explained previously >Those points are still all about Gunn. The problem is that you're stupid and won't see a movie because of James Gunn I see that we're having a productive conversation.

>>55140 We're not mind readers you fucking idiot. If you have any reasons beyond Gunn then say them or fuck off already.

>>55141 >If you have any reasons beyond Gunn Have you tried using the scroll wheel on your mouse: >>53798 >Because of...everything have to do with WB, and everything having to do with capeshit. I'm tired of it and want these companies to fucking walk away. >ANOTHER reason why I won't see it. Half of the films marketing is about how the films is about everyone BUT Clark. When it's not showing off C-listers, it's about how Supes exists as a "symbol of hope". And I'm sorry, but that's not Superman. He's just a regular ass guy who wants to help out, and only has superpowers because he's from another planet. Anything more than that is projecting your beliefs onto him. And in case you try THIS again: >>53805 >Why are you acting like the "only" reason I "hate" Gunn's Superman is because I'm a fan of Snyder? Have you ever considered the possibility that I think both are shit?

>>55145 AGAIN YOUR POINTS ARE WRONG! The irony is you're not reading anything I've already told you.

>>55146 So you're shifting the conversation from: <You refuse to see nuSupes because you're stupid and you hate James Gunn To: <You refuse to see nuSupes because you're stupid and wrong Yeah, that will definately make people sympathetic towards your posts and think that the movie TOTALLY isn't bullshit.

>>55149 Yeah we're done here. You're insincere & won't read anything I'm telling you. I'm tired of repeating myself.

>>55182 Okay?

>>55182 Looks like ideal tinder for a barbecue. Throw in the Mayhem artbook ontop and we'll cook a feast.

Unfortunately, Netflix Castlevania in name only is getting a full physical release for the original series.

>>55221 There's no way someone's going to drop a single cent for an episode beyond season 1.

>>55308 It's a set, anon.

>>55221 Reminder, vampires are afraid of right angled shapes now. What a total embarrassment.

>>55323 And that's the least dumb butchering or insulting decision from the show.

>>55334 More for vampires as a whole, if it were live action itd become a bigger joke than sparkling vampires.

>>55221 I could just browse tumblr under the tag "vampires" and call it a day.

>>55323 If you're going to remove the explicit Christian themes from a vampire story then at least replace it with solar powered Hokuto Shinken or something neat like that.

>>55409 >Solar Powered Hokuto Shinken That's just the Ripple (or was that the joke?)

>>55410 >or was that the joke? Ye

sigh https://archive.is/sfyTe

>>55469 WHY?!? >Created by writer Dan Slott and artist Olivier Coipel, Spider-Punk (aka Hobie Brown) is a version of Spider-Man who leans into a more anarchistic, anti-establishment attitude than Peter Parker’s version. Residing on Earth-138, the character is fueled by his desire to help take down corrupt systems. And here I thought that they would at least go down the Batmetal route of making it a movie about a Marvel universe were all the heroes/villains are music artists. And their names, costumes, and powers all exist as a marketing gimmick, similar to KISS.

>>55470 Silly anon. Punk rock isn't actually about the music. It's about aesthetics & having politics that perfectly align with communist larping leftist rhetoric.

>>55469 You dont hate Lord and Miller remotely enough. >>55470 Silly anon. We're not allowed to have fun in current year.

>>55471 >Punk rock isn't actually about the music To be fair, hasn't rock in general "never" been about "just the music"? It's mostly been about a bunch of friends getting together and messing around or just being a rebel just to be a rebel.

>>55478 I was being sarcastic. But kinda yes.

>>55480 >I was being sarcastic I sort of understood that, but there are people who only do unironically see rock (Or anything for that matter) as an image that can be bottled, sold, and then tossed aside for the next "thing" or subverted to suit their purposes. Which was ironically the plot of films like Rock Of Ages. And if I may say, it's gotten to the point that they've completely lost the plot. That they keep pushing out trash like all this anti-establishment shit while they are the establishment. And to a certain extent, they always WERE the establishment, but there was at least some neutral territory where people could just be people. It was the internet and anime in the Aughts, video games and cartoons in the 90's, rock and action films in the 80's, skateboarding and the arcades in the 70's, rock and roll and surfing in the 60's, and so on. But the subversives keep undermining these groups and communities for their own expressed purposes that only further push people away and isolate them (Despite all their talk of bringing communities "together"). And the result now is that they're pushing out all this content that people USED TO find cool and intriguing, but now just see as hallow political propaganda.

>>55481 All true.

>>55471 i know you're being sarcastic but i just wanted an excuse to say punk rock has always been about doing whatever the fuck you want while deliberately spiteful and annoying towards uptight moralfag boomers from both sides. the politics doesn't matter as long as it pisses them off. hell, sometimes they don't give a shit about that and wanted to vent by punch strangers if you're into hardcore, the music reflects that

>>55499 Yeah and NOT parroting the status quo. Which is what modern punk aesthetic larpers do today & exactly what the Hobie movie will be. Orange Man BAD & Israel bad but in a totally not nazi way you bigot chuds messaging along with gay & trans rights I'm sure. Basically a movie only for the fags & fujos that like this ugly ass Hobie rather than actual punk rock fans or blacks.

How's the King of the Hill reboot? I hear it's okay outside of Kahn getting recasted.

>>55503 Animation is still bad but some have said the writing is decent.

>>55503 It's decent, but I do think it isn't as good as the original run. The show focuses on Hank and Peggy dealing with retirement and Bobby, Joseph, and Connie's lives in Dallas instead of really criticizing Hank's conservatism that a lot of us were afraid would happen. There's some minor continuity errors the third episode for example has a German guy claiming his grandfather was one of the fitty men Cotton killed, but Cotton's Plot and Returning Japanese from the original series make it clear Cotton's war stories about fighting Nazis in Europe are made up and he was only ever in the Pacific Theater with the fitty men clearly being Japanese soldiers when Cotton has a war flashback, but it's fairly easy to explain that as just someone believing the stories Cotton made up as some in the original series did. It was concerning at first that Connie is shown to be in an open relationship with Chane Wassanasong, but Chane despite being majority owner of Bobby's restaurant is still a bit of dick and he and Connie break up by the end of the season. Connie is also mocked a bit for the open relationship with a character calling it "BS college girls say to get side dick" which Bobby chuckles at. Plus Connie's defense of it is weak so it's not like the series actually tries to portray that positively. Toby Huss is decent as Dale if sounding a bit off after episode 7. The only recasting I really don't like is Ronny Chieng as Kahn as it just sounds like Ronny Chieng with no attempt to make the character sound unique. It's very obviously because of the voice actors have to match the race of their characters woke nonsense and I get the impression Kahn and Minh's divorce followed by that episode showing Kahn rejecting his neighbors as more to write Kahn out of the show or minimize future appearances. The In Loving Memory for Jonathan Joss was a bit weird at the end of episode 10 just because of what we know of him prior to his death and they used a photo of him with a puppy for that which is probably one of the dogs that died in that house fire he started.

>>55506 Everything about Jonathan Joss is sad & infuriating at the same time. Guy should have been committed.

>>55504 >>55506 That's better than I expected, honestly. The Kahn bit is a shame, I would've liked him to get some development.

>>55509 It'll be really unfortunate if they do write Kahn out when he's one of the best supporting cast characters from the original seasons. At least give him a better voice actor who can sound like the original.

>>55506 >Kahn got Apu'd What a shame.

>>55555 Checked It never fails to amuse me how progressives trying to defend minorities always seem to end up killing characters that actually represented them in an admirable light.

>>55585 That's kind of the point. The classes can be used for the purposes and causes they, and ONLY they, want. Because it's all to push a political agenda. Anything else is just "cultural appropriation".

>>55323 Anything to avoid touchy subjects in a cartoon aimed at "adults", vampires are nothing but the biggest anti-semtic caricatures ever created a hundred years ago that managed to stay more relevant than Shylock. Netflix at this rate became the reincarnation of DiC for the overgrown toddler who hasn't grew out of his Saturday Morning Cartoon era, god forbid if Turd Raider's cartoon depicts Lara as the most pettiest fatal female who demolishes turd world shitholes just to get an overpriced souvenir for her gigantic doll house and government shitskins end up complying because of her deceiving looks giving her a free pass for every crime she commits or fucking DMC which basically it became a soap-box for the faggots who want to feel rebellious and hate HAET their boogeyman that is American Imperialism. >>55506 Did they mix Johnny Harwick's voice lines with Toby Huss'? What about Luanne's offspring, did they completely shaft her existence and Lucky's?

>>55621 It's literally just because they're cartoon "adaptations" made by atheists. No religious elements are allowed.

https://comicbook.com/anime/news/homestuck-animated-series-hazbin-hotel-creators/ >hazbeen hotel creators announce homosuck cartoon

>>55746 Shouldn't this be a good thing? I mean, we'll see the Homestuck and Deltarune fanbases fighting each other to the death over which "continuation" is "better" and wipe each other out in the process. It's a no-lose scenario.

>>55755 That's not what's going to happen. All that will happen is the homestuck fanbase will get even GAYER and more obnoxious than before as it merges with the crapbin fanbase.

>>55323 >vampires are afraid of right angled shapes now That wasn't even an original concept either. They ripped it off from some scifi vampire story from several decades ago.

>>55823 Might as well just ripped off white wolf and some other modern rpgs/fiction where it's not specifically the cross but "true faith™", so you could hold up a menorah or a statue of Krishna and get the same effect (or more well known the example in Vampire the Masquerade where a banker fends off a vampire by holding up a credit card because he has faith in the credit system)

>>55834 That's still dumb gay reddit shit in the other direction.

>>55820 >>55746

>>55836 It’s worse than you think. I’ve already heard talk of homosuck, tumblrfail, AND trashbinhoesmell merging together into one tumorous neo-tumblr fanbase.

>>55840 Everything you just said sounded like a threat against my life.

>>55847 This'll kill ya then.

>>55855 IT'S NO LONGER 2012 VIVZIE NOONE CARES ABOUT HOMOSUCK ANYMORE

>2025 >Johnny Test and Homestuck are not only still relevant but active

>>55855 This bitch is never going to finish her webcomic, is she?

>>55834 >>55835 True Faith as part of the Old World of Darkness predates internet as mainstream. It gets mentioned in sourcebooks from the early to mid nineties. Not exactly modern reddit tier, but old white wolf from the 90s to early 00s was way better than what came later. This was back when White Wolf was still making stuff independently and people didn't care about stuff like i interpreting Kuei-Jin and Ravnos as racist (kinda, but not really. never heard anyone really cared before woke and internet political craziness). The criticism of that always seemed like how dumbasses try to make orcs and sark elves out to racist caricatures. There were still bad source books then (Children Of Gaia Revised tribe book was hated because it turned them into stereotypical hippies for example), but a lot of stuff from that time wouldn't have been made today. They even had a source book for running WtO game in the aftermath of the Holocaust since any event of mass death and suffering is going to produce a lot of wraiths and specters, no way that could ever be published currently. TBH, just a cross with no kind of faith or consecration behind it I don't think should work on vampires and it seems silly that just a random pair of straight twigs tied together could ward of vampires. It's not the symbol or ritual itself it's what it represents. That's not even especially a new concept in fiction. There's a lot of works out there where just saying the incantation or performing the ritual without the spiritual or magical component does absolutely nothing. >>55823 It's stupid. I agree completely with that. If a story is going to give vampires weird compulsions and behaviors at least base it in something from folklore. I'd rather see a vampire get distracted by counting a bunch of seeds or baubles and buttons thrown in front of it than it having a seizure because of 90 degree angles. The right angles thing comes from Blindsight by the way. I don't really get why that novel gets praised so much. The dialogue is unnatural and stilted sounding and the premise of aliens that aren't actually conscious developing advanced technology and space travel comes off as nonsensical.

>>55863 Needing faith is one thing & it's an aspect I like but where I draw the line is the idea that it can apply to anything. Vampires are an inherently Christian concept as we know them today. They should be weak to holy symbols representing God's love & power that they as soulless beings reject. Much like how the sun, which was invented as a plot device to kill Nosferatu, can be interpreted as representing the light of God giving life to the Earth.

>>55860 That would perhaps be the one silver-lining.

>>55860 Vivzie never finishes or fleshes out any of her projects. The only reason the HH & HB stuff are going is because she has contracts along with a team working on it.

>>55864 To be fair, True Faith as it works in OWoD ties into Mage cosmology where every human that isn't some other form of supernatural has a sleeping Avatar (the Embrace kills the Avatar or forces it out, Wraiths lose their Avatar on death, being a werewolf or changeling is mutually exclusive with having an Avatar, excluding the infamous Samuel Haight that a lot of the player base hated) as part of their soul (something like a psychopomp or daemon, in the tutelary spirit sense, that is the source of Mage powers and things like Paradox) that is basically a divine spark or fragment in human souls from various real world religions. It's left ambiguous if True Faith is actually just a form of hedge magic or sorcery born out of the collective unconscious of humanity or tapping into one's Avatar without Awakening just from believing hard enough. Some Mages in setting conclude that True Faith is from an external source not from the internal Avatar, but that True Faith can be based on anything if the person genuinely believes enough and that the Umbra is influenced heavily by the beliefs and emotions of Sleepers contradicts it. It's possible for supernaturals that explicitly don't have Avatars to have True Faith which proves you don't need one for it and it is actually external (either as some contact with real divinity or Sleeper beliefs), such as some of the Changing Breeds that have True Faith based on their creator, Gaia. On top of that there's implication within MTA that the Abrahamic God that made Caine was actually a Mage that achieved Ascension in a previous world (this is one of the major theories on what Ascension is, you become a nigh omnipotent god and go off to create your own universe, but simply mastering all the Spheres isn't enough to Ascend) which is complicated by their originally being plans that Exalted was the World of Darkness before it became the World of Darkness which got retconned out and references to it mostly removed. There's a lot of OWoD stuff that is just left intentionally ambiguous or contradictory as a mystery in the background or something a GM can flesh out in their own campaign if they want. Also worth noting that True Faith is stated to be very rare by the modern day even among the religious and any character with a lot of points in it can perform genuine miracles since they effectively become a divine conduit, but having even just one or two points that allows warding off vampires and other supernaturals is rare on its own. Someone having enough True Faith to perform miracles like a new Messiah or Buddha could be world changing and the focus of entire campaign.

>>55855 So heckin' quirky I just hope this is the final to the coffin considering Hussie also despised what he saw during the test-screenings

>>55894 At least SweetBro and Hella Jeff got spared right? I do find it funny how tumbrlinas are nothing but porn addicts standing on soapbox yet they're the same people who push for censorship.

>>55893 >I just hope this is the final to the coffin considering Hussie also despised what he saw during the test-screenings I doubt it, he’s been guzzling the coolaid for nearly a decade now. >>55896 It’s also funny how they accuse others of committing violence, harassment, and being “toxic” when they’ve done all of the above and more. How many times have harassed people over drawing a character in a way they don’t like? Death threats aren’t a big deal in the age of the internet, but tumblr has always acted as though they are; despite this, they constantly sent death threats over the most petty things including an actress playing the wife of a character they shipped with a dude. They also doxx people, which is a little more serious and again, something they consider unforgivable when done by anyone else. And of course, there’s the numerous “mostly peaceful protests” they’ve done over the years. The internet has sadly memory holes all these examples, and continues to do so whenever they do more of it. The Sherlock example is easy enough to find, others less so. I’ll need to make a list of archived examples that can be shared around, unless someone’s already made one? >>55894 You know, the funny thing is, even half of the tumblr fans admit Homestuck went downhill when Act 6 started, but they conveniently ignore the fact this was right after they showed up. It’s also funny that vivizeslop is decisive even among them. … Man, the amount of cartoonishly stereotypical swirled mustashe soyboys, landwhales, dyed hair dykes, and wannabe queer-Guevara I saw when search “Homestuck” on Jewtube and filtering by the past week is depressing. Hearing these people talking about Homestuck belonging to tumblr as if there wasn’t a pre-established fanbase they usurped, and all they’re fans of is troll romance, makes my blood boil. These days it seems they aren’t even fans of that, so much as their fans of it being gay.

>>55902 >Hearing these people talking about Homestuck belonging to tumblr as if there wasn’t a pre-established fanbase they usurped, and all they’re fans of is troll romance, makes my blood boil. These days it seems they aren’t even fans of that, so much as their fans of it being gay. I will never not be angry at any faggot zoomer I see who praises Homestuck when they were exactly responsible for this. I was the target demographic for it - discovering MSPA shortly after Problem Sleuth started and reading HS all the way up to act 6 before giving up because it was too painful to keep going. There were times in school that I tried to introduce the comic to other people and they simply disregarded me and ignored it, then barely a year later entire gaggles of queers and band kids were praising it like the second coming of Christ because Tumblr ate it up as a hyper-homo teen drama instead of a fun comic. I hate this gay fucking world.

Did someone watch The Bad Guys 2? How many background niggers have comprared to the first movie?

>>55927 No but I did see the trailer in theaters and it was 50% "we're strong women move over boys" and 50% fart jokes.

>>55927 There's a Bad Guys 2? Wasn't the previous one last year or something? >How many background niggers have comprared to the first movie? Does it matter? World's clearly gotten anthromorphic animals, why's a few more gonna bother you?

>>55629 In the past there were atheists, agnostics, and people of non standard religiousness that made fantasy and even explicitly religious fiction. But these reddit fedoras making things now days seem to be as repelled by crosses as vampires are suppose to be. >>55863 >I'd rather see a vampire get distracted by counting a bunch of seeds or baubles and buttons thrown in front of it than it having a seizure because of 90 degree angles. It doesn't even make a lot of sense because human construction, once you get out of the mudhut phase, has so many right angles that it ought to render all civilized areas immune to vampires by accident.

>>55927 Just pirate it, Yeah, it was exactly how anon said>>55928 barely of the male main cast hit the females physical at least they didn't continue the choppy framerate meme from the first movie.

>>55939 >It doesn't even make a lot of sense because human construction, once you get out of the mudhut phase, has so many right angles that it ought to render all civilized areas immune to vampires by accident. That is the explanation for why they went extinct in Blindsight before being recreated through genetic engineering. They all either died from seizures or starved to death when their main food source started building things en masse. They have to be given antiepileptic drugs to function in the modern world. Still doesn't make any sense they would evolve like that in the first place in a world without magic or the supernatural. Despite the parroted claim nature doesn't favor right angles there's plenty of right angles in nature that aren't hard to find. Plenty of tree species grow straight up and form a visible right angle from the trunk and ground which would be especially apparent if there's no roots above ground or not close enough for above ground roots to be visible. This should be obvious to anyone who has seen a pine forest or similar. Trees and straight stem plants growing out of water would also easily form right angles. There's plenty of minerals that form cubic crystals. Even without human construction the things wouldn't be able to go near forests without risking a seizure and salt flats or any place with enough evaporated sea water would have small cubic crystals everywhere. Even before humans started making buildings a caveman could probably just hold a straight spear perpendicular to and resting on the ground to ward off vampires or just hold his arms straight out at the correct angle. Constructing a right angle with some sticks tied together with basic rope or plant fibers and burying it partially in the ground so it stands up would be simple even in the stone age. It's a really stupid weakness that makes vampires laughably non-threatening if putting any though into it.

>>55935 >few more Looks at the screenshots, there is a lot of background niggers, spics and other types of browns. Reminds me of how in the Invisible cartoon they made the viltrumite society a World Economic Forum multicultural wet dream.

>>55956 >They were meant to be segregationist klan members <Amazion's producers in a brilliant ditch effort decided to redesign them as shitskins and dykes, but they're still supremacists Only (((them))) can manage to fuck up a simple liberal message of "everyone is heckin equal", like this is some levels of density that'd make Movieblob get a stiffy.

So, any opinions about the new King of the Hill? is it bad probably or is it good?

>>56048 Bad. Only watched 5 episodes before I called it quits.Everyone feels like an exaggerated version of themselves. The plots are way more modern, or in this case set exactly in 2023 since the culture shift has already happened. Animation is stiff and janky. They recasted a bunch of voice actors because of cultural appropriation yet episode 2 is all about how dumb cultural appropriation is. Its like watching American Dad writers imitating what they think the appeal of King of the Hill is.

>>56048 >>56057 Is part of the reason it's bad is because of it trying to be a continuation of a two decade series, or is it just bad by itself?

>>56059 Bad in general. Even when you divorce it from the original it just feels like cheap writing. This whole episode resolves like generic 90s sitcom after repeatedly showing all these cultural sensitivity types are irrational. They also have an episode about those man camps to be a true alpha male and its the most obnoxious thing ever. I later find out that its written by the lead writer who worked on Velma.

>>56057 The thing is, the first half of the first clip woul have worked with the mexican loving speedy Gonzalez, but ruined it by shitting on the original voice actor. I like the message of just being true to yourself but they seem to ruin it. >>56060 And this shit about the alpha male stuff just looks like a mixture of the worst points of both angry feminists and cuckservatives where men have to feel guilty for being men and be rejected by women.

>>56057 >>56060 I feel like the people writing this shit don't exist in reality. The process of actually cooking the food is EXTREMELY important to the taste. It has nothing to do with being "true to yourself" or any of that internal bullshit. You can make two dishes, both being exactly the same, and the only difference being that one was cooked on a grill while another in an oven, and result in two competely difference experiences for the people eating the food. It's one of the reasons why I avoid using the microwave whenever I can. Why are they trying to make it about some philosphical thing when there's facts behind it? >>56061 >And this shit about the alpha male stuff just looks like a mixture of the worst points of both angry feminists and cuckservatives where men have to feel guilty for being men and be rejected by women. It's "true" but for all the wrong reasons. I'm not sure if you're aware, but there is a lot of propaganda being pushed for how women need to "Go back to the kitchen" coming from a lot of people in what's been called the "Man-o-sphere". Now if you agree with that or not, I don't care. My opinion is to not get involved as I see it as another Communist attempt to divide society for their revolution. Especially since people keep trying to pull the trap of offering two extremes and presenting them as the "only" options. The question that I have, and that people should be asking, is about if that's the kind of lifestyle that you desire.

>>56060 >>56061 What are you expecting Hank to do in this situation? It would be wildly out of character for him to agree with extreme alpha/sigma male stuff just as it would be wildly out of character for Hank to agree with the feminist "don't need no man and they're all evil anyway, pay me for being a woman" extreme on the other end. Neither of those things really mesh with his traditional conservative mindset. I don't get the problem with that episode and just saw it as Hank trying to bond with his brother and ensure he doesn't adopt Cotton's worst traits. Cotton's kid growing up in today's world without a good male role model sounds like a recipe for disaster. GH lacks a father figure and his mother is timid and non-confrontational. While that did make a her an obedient match for Cotton's dominant and aggressive personality it is really not a good combination for a single mother raising someone with Cotton's genetics. I always got the impression the only reason Hank turned out relatively okay (despite episodes showing the neuroses he picked up from Cotton's parenting) is because his mother, while a bit naive, eventually grew enough of a spine to divorce Cotton and push back on his abusive behavior. Didi for comparison never really stood up to Cotton and even came back after he threw her out over her getting a job and not knitting for him. Of course GH would buy in to the worst of online manosphere, incel, and PUA rhetoric. I would expect the same of Cotton if he had the same innate traits and grew up today. Yes, some of that stuff can be helpful psychologically for lonely young men lacking a a good cause to get behind, but it can also breed some very dark things like mass shooters. Cotton got the worst of his aggression out from going to war, killing fitty men, and getting his shins blown off. Even the dialogue isn't that odd and teenagers can and do believe some weird shit they encounter online because they take it at face value and don't know better while anomie is rampant today. GH is a Zoomer. We all know how fucked up a lot of Zoomers are from growing up with social media and everything being online without much face to face interaction. This is the generation known for stupid shit like eating tide pods and climbing stacks of unstable milk crates for internet likes. Combine that with Didi's parenting and GH could end up in a really, really bad place.

>>56063 >>56210 My point is not if it's right or wrong nor if it was on Frank's character or not. I'm more into the 'just leave me and my hobbies alone' and the 'don't ask me to act like a man for you when you can't even act like a woman' party because we can't even have that. My point is that the whole man-o-sphere episode was entirely framed to be some writer's soapbox to stand in and preach. I find the whole Man-o-sphere shit cringe, but don't go like south park and try to play the 'making fun from both sides' when they clearly chose one to stand with.

>>55927 >>55935 Having seen The Bad Guys 2, there were background Arabs, although it's understandable since it took place in Cairo, Egypt. Much of it is also in present day Los Angeles (including a wrestling tournament scene), so that's expected, unfortunately. The background browns is a distraction compared to a snake falling in love with a bird, though (and also a wolf in love with a fox).

Peacemaker season 2 has a nigger orgy with big prosthetic black girls fucking white & asian girls while one white due has a tiny dick. Also Peacemaker experiments being bisexual. Part humiliation ritual with John Cena & Gunn being a degenerate sexpest. That is all.

>>56240 *prosthetic black dicks Got ahead of myself

>>56240 >>56245 and people will still insist that gunn is "saving" the genre. if this is the best left for capes the genre is overdue for a respectful death. Id rather absolutely nothing to the redditor bullshit gunn churns out.

>>56265 On one hand he's keeping it to just the shows so far but this kind of shit shouldn't have been there to begin with. They're learned nothing from Doom Patrol or Titans. Leave the edge, politics, & disgusting sex shit on the cutting room floor. We just want the capeshit.

Is this supposed to be commentary on immigration?

>>56348 Without knowing the context for the rest of the comic leading up to that panel, I'd say it's "closer" to a commentary on background checks.

>>56348 It's lazy writing to sow conflict. Superman, especially this weird Superman that's an amalgamation of the New Earth & New 52 Superman, wouldn't say this kind of shit about Jason just to be petty. Especially not when he became a father & all the shit that happened to Jon as a result of training him to be a hero.

THE STATE OF PIXAR https://streamable.com/2qx1rp

>>56368 >TS5 >Incredibles 3 >Coco 2 Why is it all sequels? Also I have not heard a single good thing about TS4 and Incredibles 2.

>>56368 Please! let them die in peace!

>>56368 >>56369 The only original work by Pixar is Hoppers. It's totally not like Avatar (nor Dances with Wolves), according to the trailer.

>>56371 The animal designs suck & it rubs me the wrong way with how the trailer makes a joke about Avatar just because Disney owns Fox now. It's like how the new Alien show references Ice Age explicitly.

>>56372 Funnily enough, I've immediately thought of The Wild Robot thanks to how all of the animals can seemingly talk to each other. The director/writer's most notable work is We Bare Bears (Daniel Chong), so I expect the story and "comedy" to be similar.

>>56371 >>56373 >We bare bears >One of the most boring animationd I had seen a while back even falling asleep through it because of how safe & sanitized it was. Blah.

>>56372 >>56373 Both this an Wild Robot actually reminded me more of Open Season. With some sprinklings of things like Brother Bear, The Bee Movie, and Walle.

Dana Terrace has gone indie and has gotten right back on the barely original train by making a mascot horror series combined with her seething about Disney telling her no a few times.

>>56379 The amount of redflags from the va's should stir away anyone with a braincell. Its going to be a hit with tumblr.

>>56379 Why do they have a woman (tranny?) voicing an old dude?

>>56379 Why the fug does this look like it has chromatic aberration?! That's a thing that occurs as film degrades, isn't a natural thing at all.

>>56380 The first trailer months ago was a enough of a redflag so far as I'm concerned. Giltch really only knows how to make or "fund", rather, one kind of show.

A more fitting analog would be as follows: >Batman: "Superman, your league membership program is destroying the Justice League >Batman: "You've been letting in anyone who walks through the teleporter without any background-checks" >Batman: "A bunch of the new "superheroes" have been committing violent crimes including, but not limited to: theft, fraud, drug dealing, murder, rape, gang rape, grooming, and terrorism throughout the facility" >Batman: "Additionally, many of the large swaves of metahumans you've let in do not share our ideals on what constitutes heroism. >Batman: "That new green lantern has been protecting Dr Light of all people from my attempts to apprehend him on the grounds that raping women and children is a "cultural difference" >Batman: "We must halt all further recruitment until these obvious supervillains have all been kicked out and the league's recruitment polices have undergone extensive rectification. <Superman: "You hatemongering BIGOT!"

>>56389 Creepypasta lite shows are GLITCH's specialty. The problem is this one's coming from a place of spite rather than vision of a story.

>>56384 They want it look like old records of a VHS, still fail at it. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Q9SW5ZfBaDo

>>56379 >>56404 >>564055640 SMG4 should've never went awentake shows

>>56406 Damn I fucked it up

>>56379 >>56404 So the show is going to be another "Walt disney was literally Hitler" type of affair?

>>56409 It's Dana Terrace seething over Disney cancelling Owl House, yes.

>>56410 Isn't the funny part that the show was already heading downhill by the time Iger finally canned it? In fact, I think the ONLY thing people know the show for is just the porn, which seems to have a greater dedication compared to many other more recent series. The only exceptions being He-Ra: Trap Of Power and Vizzie's Helltour Extraordinaire.

>>56411 >...exceptions...

>>56369 It's all sequels because they have nothing else to offer at this point. They've long since ejected their proven brain trust and what took their place was a confederation of rainbow shitlibs who only know how to regurgitate the same "magical brown people" nonsense adnauseum. Even damaged brands like TS and Incredibles have more gas in their tanks over the likes of Turning Red, Elio, Elemental, etc. If they were smart they'ed focus the plot of Incredibles 3 on all the grimey details of the Supers act. It seems like the younger gen z crowd has rediscovered those old special features lately and have gone nutty for it. But we're talking about disney at the end of the day. They were too stupid to tap into that for the second film. They'll unquestionably make the same mistake a second time.

>>56267 >This kind of shit shouldn't have been there to begin with That's always been my biggest issue with Gunn. When he isnt delivering the most milquetoast mediocre mass appeal slop, he deliver's wannabe troma slop. Gunn sucks across both extremes.

>>56404 Buy and large I dont harbor alot of ill will against zoomers. They got dealt bad hands across the board. The creepypasta troon clown nonsense does fucking incense me however. The trend has been past its best by date for over a decade now and it continues to be the crux of this entire ""indie"" wave so many continue to incessantly fellate. I see no tangible difference between the likes of Adventure Time and whatever the indie darling of the week is beyond the ability to curse.

>>56364 >>56348 At this point I'm no longer affected by these characters being used as globalist propaganda spokespersons. Knowing which way the wind is blowing in addition to how soon they're all lapsing leads me to believe we'll not just a return to form for these characters, but something far greater entirely.

People who have never read so much as a wiki page on a comic much less the comics themselves say James is more “faithful” to the comics. In reality, he does little more than make OCs and slap the branding of existing characters on top, often resulting in characters less interesting than their supposed counterparts.

>>56428 You're preaching to the choir anon. It's no less empty a sentiment than when Marvel toots their own horn over "comic accuracy". These cunts dont read comics. All they know is skinsuiting.

>>56421 I meant "Exceptions" in regards to how quickly the porn died down after the series ended. >>56425 >he deliver's wannabe troma slop What do you mean be "wannabe", Gunn got his start working for Troma.

>>56425 >>56433 He needs to step away from his Troma roots. He's the leader of a brand now that's on it's last legs because they wasted money throwing it at projects for dead on arrival universes in live action & animated forms. Now is NOT the time to be taking risks like Peacemaker or Creature Commandos (in name only). He needs to embrace the comic book side that made people like his new Superman movie. Something that feels sincere & isn't afraid to just being comic book. Not camel toes, cuck orgies out of a jews fantasy, or NTR backstories. >>56427 When capeshit characters go public domain, they're pretty much just completely forgotten. People don't ever talk about or praise all the Dynamite books on public domain heroes. The big advantage for DC heroes is people know them already since they lasted compared to all the other companies. Excluding Marvel of course who's in the same boat. >>56428 His GotG movies are definitely not comic book faithful at all. I will give you that. But his Superman movie is a huge step in the right direction.

One recent example is “The sons of Themyscira” . This was a concept originating from the nu52, but despite this the comic version was more interesting than Gunn’s version. Every so often Amazons would have sex with sailors in order to get pregnant, and would them kill said sailors this is similar the Gargareans in the original myth, except they weren’t killed. This is how the Amazons have kids. Whenever male children are conceived, they get left on a rock to die leaving infants on rocks to die was a common practice in greece. However, Hephaestus, remembering how his mother left him on a rock to die, would rescue these children and raise them as his own. These are the Sons of Themyscira in the comic. In creature commandos, they’re just random dudebros who want to invade Themyscira so they can ride the giant kangaroos or whatever because misogyny. I can see why you wouldn’t want to adapt them exactly, given the nu52 story is a bit of a character assassination of the Amazons, but in that case you would just not adapt them exactly SoT at all. Instead Gunn just makes a version that’s infinitely less interesting.

>>56437 >I can see why you wouldn’t want to adapt them exactly, given the nu52 story And does no one ever tell them that's exactly part of the problem? I have not heard a single good thing about the DC universe post-Flashpoint. It's nothing but shit, but you still have these retards trying to force people to accept it, primarily because it's a the "politically correct" version of the characters that are in line with the "modern times". And it doesn't matter that they keep retconning shit to make pre-Flashpoint content canon because they're still trying to sell people on the idea of a nu52 DC universe. It's time to stop and abandon the project altogether. Hell, put every fucking thing having to do with DC on hold to give the public a break for at least a few years. But these retards are never going to do that because "Well lose money" in a market where the comics don't sell, cable/streaming subscriptions are getting cancelled, the theaters are empty, and the games get shut down. It's time to stop.

>>56437 >>56439 Yeah Gunn's example there is just an excuse to shove in his petty strawman politics. But in general the use of modern comics that no one likes or reads being used as the main inspiration needs to stop.

>>56433 >What do you mean be "wannabe", Gunn got his start working for Troma He never innovated, that's why I used the term "wannabe". All he could ever do was poorly regurgitate what came before. The entirety of Super was such a try hard mess, just the same with Brightburn.

>>56434 >Not camel toes, cuck orgies out of a jews fantasy, or NTR backstories. Guess what you're going to get. We've been here before. Remember how bright the future of DC seemed back in 2012? All the deep cuts who got some time in the limelight on DC Nation? What did we get out of it? Teen Titans Go and series of consecutively worse DTV movies which have still never recovered. If you havent caught wise to his plans to take the ship down with him then you're in for a world of hurt. It doesnt matter to Gunn if "this is the last chance" for capes. What matters is that he gets his way to the letter. >When capeshit characters go public domain, they're pretty much just completely forgotten I'm so tired of this argument. Unlike before things will be different now. All the heavy hitters will be free to use. The capeshit audience is starved for capekino. This is why Catman is doing so well (if only Austin would release the fucking movie already). Likewise why you see so much fervor around Invincible, The Boys, etc. Project Super Powers and the existing PD pantheon of capeshitters arent directly comparable to the likes of Batman and Superman. The few that are like Namor, Captain Marvel, and Plastic Man are all deeper cut favorites that disappeared for decades at a time and lack the sheer media prescence some of the up and comers do.

>>56434 >But his Superman movie is a huge step in the right direction. Yeah nothing says the future is bright quite like a mixed race Hawkgirl caving in Netanyahu's head. I was especially filled with excitement when Superman started crying like a 14 year old about his relationship. Please give me a break.

>>56437 It would atleast give the Amazons more depth than "glorious race of infallible super women". It's been said before but the larger issue in this instance is how little DC, Gunn, Warner, etc care about Wondy. Nearly a century and the only time we ever saw a full exploration of the super princess angle was the Linda Carter show. Wondy is possibly the most underutilized and painfully overlooked DC icon. For the last 20 year's she's been butchered into this bisexual barbarian murderer. She's DC's equivalent to Thor down to their criminal mishandling and disrepect of her character.

>>56449 Specifically with Diana, part of the problem is that her entire existence is prime material that can be easily hijacked by political mouthpieces. Ignoring anything having to do with nu52, her origin story is that she's princess from a magical island made up exclusively of female warriors. Given how politically charged majority of today's creatives are, there is no way that you absolutely CANNOT fuck that up. And even a glance at her creation sort of indicates that she "always" existed as a political character, given she was based upon the ideal "Liberated Woman" for a hack BDSM polygamous feminist pick-up artist who's only real claim to fame was creating the polygraph.

>>56447 You're an idiot if you think public domain means people will make good movies out of them. No it just leads to grifters using the IP as a way to make cheap exploitative slop. >>56448 That didn't happen. Superman didn't cry about his relationship. He cried over someone dying because of him. You don't have to like the movie but you're arguing in bad faith.

>>56456 Alot of good can still be done with her, but I recognize all the points you're making. It's quite sad that she's fallen so far. It makes me want to see her given a fair shake all the more. For years now I've wanted to explore two distinct angles with her. The first being a 90's Disney take tonally reminiscent of their Hercules adaption and hinging on her innocence and purity. The second taking its cues from classic She-Ra and the ill fated Wonder Woman and the Star Riders pitch. In both instances I really want to drive home the super princess dynamic because it's never been played right imo. Realistically we should have had a Silver Age incarnation that really embraced the fairy tale side of things, but to my knowledge it never really happened. We jumped from her golden age years, to her time with the justice league, right into a spyfi iteration that few took to before going back to her golden age roots. Jesus anon did you really need to add starro rape to your reply? Furthermore we need to put a rest to that sort of talking point. There exists this inescapable cynicism around capeshit nowadays which must be bulldozed and ignored. It is especially heightened anytime a new movie comes out and everybody decides they're self appointed experts on a given character. Yes I recognize the inception of capeshit came about as WW2 propaganda, but for nearly a century now they have evolved to be so much more. Shackle your world view to the bitter truth of their humble beginnings and see how far that gets you. Everywhere I turn now I see legions of users actively discouraging action to turn the tide of the cultural rot we find ourselves in. That isnt how you turn a new leaf, and that definitely isnt how you get out of the jam we're currently in.

>>56457 Already there are hundreds of oldfag comic creators who ecstatically look forward to getting their chance to really take these characters for a spin. Chuck Dixon, Rob Liefield, & Jon Bogdanov are just a few of the names that come to mind. Whether you like them or not has nothing to do with the underlying point. The virtue of these characters being the big names that they are means things will be different this go around. Will there be exploitative low quality works? Undoubtedly so. Does that mean no worthwhile earnest works will come about? Certainly not. You're delusional to insist otherwise. Once again I must point to the shroud of pervading cynicism and negativity looming around this genre now. I recognize most are tired and demoralized as a result of 15 years of heinous dogshit, but that can all change when you decide it should. Otherwise just stew in your misery until you find the motivation to jump off a bridge. >You don't have to like the movie but you're arguing in bad faith. Enjoy the movie if you want, but refrain from shoving the damn thing down my throat as the miraculous new beginnings to a brighter tomorrow. It made HALF as much money as fucking Aquaman. Audience reception to the film is about as divided as it was with Last Jedi. It is another tonally disjointed Gunn therapy session marketed as a capeshit flick for kids and tweens. Superman deserves better and has gotten better in the past. Those who see Gunn's efforts or that equally awful superman ""anime"" as innate positives are defenders of the decline and deserve scorn. They're no different from the mindless MCU consumers who praise all the direct to D+ slop that gets shat out into their laps.

>>56459 >The first being a 90's Disney take tonally reminiscent of their Hercules adaption and hinging on her innocence and purity. The second taking its cues from classic She-Ra and the ill fated Wonder Woman and the Star Riders pitch. >In both instances I really want to drive home the super princess dynamic because it's never been played right imo. <What about the "Wonder Woman Adventure" series, a book trilogy about a still-in-training Diana? I'll admit that I have been tempted to pick up first pic just because of how cute the cover is. >Spoiler Well, it's "true" to her character. :^) >Yes I recognize the inception of capeshit came about as WW2 propaganda, but for nearly a century now they have evolved to be so much more. Yes and no. The problem is that we already got the best renditions of the characters that we are ever going to get. You have everything from Superfriends to the DCAU to the Dark Knight Trilogy. It's all material that has taken the best aspects of the characters, in all their different incarnations, and made them characters that people knew and loved. All that's left after reaching that point is exactly what's going on, deconstruction, meaning that it's finally time to move on and let these characters rest. >Everywhere I turn now I see legions of users actively discouraging action to turn the tide of the cultural rot we find ourselves in. "Fixing" these characters is not going to "fix" nor "help" the culture war. If you want to "help" matters, then make your own original characters who go on their own original advantures. Otherwise all you're doing is just showing society that our best days are behind us as we, yet again, recycle century old characters and properties. >>56461 >The virtue of these characters being the big names that they are means things will be different this go around How did that work out for The Lone Ranger, a character and series that, despite it's massive popularity, hasn't been relevent since the 1980's? <And who's last "real" relevance was a guest cameo on The Greatest American Hero Or just drop capeshit for a moment and think about other media, like Star Wars. Prior to Disney buying it, it was the most popular franchise to ever exist, a recognized name everywhere, printed money with whatever it did, and has touched every single corner across the globe. However little over a decade later, the series is deader than a doornail, despite universally praised "good" works coming out like Andor and The Mandolorian. Similar thing with Star Trek, despite Strange New Worlds. After all of this shit, do you really think the public will "return", even if you get the "right creatives" in place to make new content? It's time to move on.

>>56461 >Rob Liefeld comics >selling or being good Chuck Dixon's the only one that could really do something with him but aging comic book creators that are constantly dying can't afford to wait for when everything goes public domain. Or expect the recapture the magic they had before. Aquaman made money because it was a unique spectacle movie starring a likable actor from a director normies like even though he makes slop horror. Superman came out after the Snyderverse fatigue, Joker 2 being a spiteful sabotaged film, & the failed cheap animated movie universe 2.0. People were too cautious to go all in on it.

>>56463 I dont bother with modern YA trash and neither do most of today's youth. It talks down to them and is largely just another avenue for millenial therapy porn and globohomo propaganda. I also dont agree with the notion that these's character's best days are behind them. The push for original ideas is valid but it rejects the blatant reality of our current output. Aside from a few exceptions, all modern indie capes are dated deconstructions. The few that arent are forgettable and lack any tie in media. There are tons of creator owned characters that merit adaptions but will never get one. Nexus, Destroyer Duck, a ton of the Image originals, etc. You're admitting defeat on both fronts by burying the legacy contenders and doubling down on muh original ideas in this day and age. Case in point, you dont get Ben 10 without the DCAU or Teen Titans 2003. The Lone Ranger also isnt public domain. The issues he faces are apart of a larger problem which goes on largely ignored in our circles, that being corporate/creator neglect. Between the 1981 film and Disney's 2011 reboot, what significant Lone Ranger media even came out? Look at Zorro, even into the 2010's he was still getting media. He has a dedicated following, if even a small one. Same deal with the Power Rangers. The larger solution might be directly marketing to small niche fanbases, but buy and large nobody is willing to have that conversation. We've been hoodwinked into believing the only sort of worthwhile success is hollywood raping your IP over a bed of hot coals to maximize profits in a bid for as widespread appeal as possible. That method has killed all the franchises you mentioned and capeshit to boot. You pointed to Project Super Powers as an example of the wider obscurity and undesirability of PD heroes without realizing how dedicated a following that series had before it too was ruined. Look into Femforce too. It's got a 50 year run and subsisted off releasing a single issue per year, every year, since 1970. It can work but like I noted, our perceptions of success are warped. Every IP must be a whore or else its a failure. The goal shouldnt be to win back the public, atleast not in the short term, it should be to win back the fans or at the very least build something new for them to call their own.

>>56464 I dont care about your opinions of these creators. The point is they're still making big money. They're still movers and shakers ever 30+ years after their heydays. Even if (YOU) dont like one of them, some other capefag does. We shouldnt rely on them but they're valueable in anycase. A phoenix cant rise from nothing. I dont care about your copes and theories behind why certain movies succeeded and others didnt. At the end of the day the point is the same. Capeshit is in decline and the "Gunnverse" is far from the solution.

>>56466 I only criticized Rob Liefeld. He gets by on irony. Not because he's a good writer or artist. It's simple logic. You continue to argue in bad faith.

>>56465 >all modern indie capes are dated deconstructions And they wonder why no one is reading comics anymore. >You're admitting defeat on both fronts by burying the legacy contenders and doubling down on muh original ideas in this day and age. How? >Case in point, you dont get Ben 10 without the DCAU or Teen Titans 2003. That's not how it works as you also don't get Batman or Superman without The Shadow, Doc Savage, Ougon Bat, John Carter, or The Continental Operative. >The Lone Ranger also isnt public domain. So? >The issues he faces are apart of a larger problem which goes on largely ignored in our circles, that being corporate/creator neglect I'd rather properties be "neglected" than trotted every few years because the company needs money. >Between the 1981 film and Disney's 2011 reboot, what significant Lone Ranger media even came out? There was the failed WB pilot. I don't see your point. >Look at Zorro, even into the 2010's he was still getting media I haven't heard of it. I know Amazon is doing some series, but the last Zorro related material I (Or anyone else, for that matter) gave a shit about is the Antonio Banderas films. And you know what, there's no problems with that. >Same deal with the Power Rangers. Each Power Rangers series (And Super Sentai, which it's based upon) is largely indepedent from each other with different characters and plot devices. It's nothing at all comparable to Zorro as Zorro is Don Diego de la Vega, a Mexican atristocrat living in California. However the Red Ranger in PR/SS is a different character, with a different team, and different goals every season. The Red Mighty Morphin Ranger Jason Scott is entirely different from the Red Lightspeed Rescue Ranger Carter Grayson, who is entirely different from the Red Time Force Ranger Wes Collins and so on. >You pointed to Project Super Powers as an example of the wider obscurity No, I didn't. You're talking about a different Anon. >It can work but like I noted, our perceptions of success are warped. Do you not realize your hypocrasy when, just three paragraphs above, you said: <There are tons of creator owned characters that merit adaptions but will never get one. Enough with the fucking adaptations. If you want people to get "back on track" with what makes a comic, or ANYTHING for that matter, "successful" here's what you need to do: make something. And if someone is willing to pay money for that, congratulations, you're a success. It's as simple as that. If you want to take things further, then make something, that enough people are willing to pay money for, so that you can earn enough money to pay your bills. That's all that needs to happen. >it should be to win back the fans The fans are gone. I know that well enough because I'm a fan of several series like Sonic the Hedgehog. However the series effectively "died" after Generations, and there's nothing Sega can put out that will ever make me want to get invested into the series again. And that's a fact that these companies and you idiots need to realize. I'm not going to cream my pants just because you through up a familiar name and silhouette on screen. >or at the very least build something new for them to call their own THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS ENTIRE FUCKING TIME!!!

>>52569 You are arguing that a criticism of communism is specifically about authoritarian communism and that the critic actually loves communism. Therefore, this "authoritarian communism" is just "doing communism wrong", and criticism of it isn't criticism of communism in general because essentially "it's a bad type of communism where they're doing it wrong" is just a sister argument to "it's not real communism, they're just doing it wrong". Authoritarianism happens in the end regardless though, which is why the "it's not real communism" meme exists. So ultimately, it's still a criticism of communism, even if you grant the critic didn't intend to critique anything more than a "a subset of communism that's wrong".

>>53388 >I use to sit like that all the time as a kid. Did you have relatively small testicles or something? Shit's uncomfortable. >>52550 >>52657 >>53571 Why did Mike Judge agree to do anything this low quality? I'm surprised at the people here saying this doesn't look bad. Have standards really fallen that low? >>53560 >Has anyone else noticed how much modern society absolutely loathes their parents to the point that they outright cut them out of their life entirely? I know that there are shit ones out there, but not "every" parent is terrible. My parents did drugs behind my back and let me subsidize their lifestyle by paying for all the food and utilities when I thought they were struggling fincially. My mother has done unspeakable things and my father is in an "open relationship" where he's trying to build himself a harem that includes transsexuals. I met one of them myself, and he was the stereotypically obnoxious type that got pissed at service workers and government clerks for not reading his mind on what he wanted to be called. Not pissed at me, I ignored the fucker as much as possible and never referred to him. My parents like to pretend nothing is wrong, but I don't interact with them any more than necessary. It's asking for trouble at this point. >And even then, more often than not, it's because they didn't have good role models to refer to either on how to "be an adult". This an excuse that leads to a rabbit hole of playing the generational blame game until nobody is responsible for anything because the blame all lies with long dead people. People with bad parents can turn out good and people with good parents can turn out bad. Don't just throw out free will. >>53777 >Unlike Superman, people need to see HER origins because the average person isn't familiar with her I swear I've seen her origin story at least three different times across various cartoons and cartoon movies and it's been slightly different each time. Does she have a "unified idea" of how she came to be like Superman and most of the biggest heroes do in the multiverse? >>54025 I would agree if the treadmill was a metaphor, but they made it a literal treadmill. >>55139 >The director has nothing to do with the movie Can I smoke what you got? >>55149 >definately >>55150 >we You're both insufferable, both the baiter and the biter. >>55472 You mean mean [CURRENT YEAR]+10? >>55893 >So heckin' quirky And valid! >>56426 >Buy and large >>56427 >leads me to believe we'll not just a return to form for these characters, but something far greater entirely. What inspires such blind optimism? >>56456 >Wuohnder Woman

>>56484 >Why did Mike Judge agree to do anything this low quality? I'm surprised at the people here saying this doesn't look bad. Have standards really fallen that low? Have you ever considered that the guy just isn't the "great creator" you thought he was in the first place? >Don't just throw out free will. The problem goes both ways. Role models are important in people lives and development. And if it's not one's parents, then it's something else. And you are correct that people "should" be independent, but how does that work when you're in an environment where the only way of getting ahead is being a certified jackass? Consider the situation in a lot of third world countries like India, where the average person is a con artist because that's all anyone ever sees when it comes to how one "gets ahead". Similar things in West Taiwan, where people there believe that the "secret" to success is being a member of the CCP and exploiting the rest of society. Not saying this is a "universal" rule or view on those countries, as there have been more than enough people who have left those countries entirely because they despised those lifestyles and wanted something better, but role models do play an important part in people's attitudes and views.

>>56484 Sorry about your family situation man, shit like that sucks and always leaves its mark pretty harshly.

>>56484 Supergirl's origins constantly changed since the beginning. Pretty sure her first appearance version wasn't even real. A director's comments can be completely wrong about what the movie he made actually contains. Again look at Starship Troopers or Paul Verhoeven in general. Or Alan Moore for a comic book writer example. A director or writers intentions don't always align with what they actually make.

>>56517 >A director or writers intentions don't always align with what they actually make. You mean like what happened with Joker? How people flocked to that movie. And then the very creators of the first film set out to make a sequel that shit on everyone who enjoyed the first one.

>>56531 Kinda. In the sense that he intended for audiences to hate Arthur & take his spiral as a cautionary tale. But the audience ended up sympathizing with him instead. Joker 2 is a different issue of spite for that audience of the first.

>>56532 Okay, but there's also the difference. They never expressly said how people are suppose to "view" Joker before the film came out, same thing with Watchmen. IDK about Starship Troopers if the guy publicly expressed his opinion before or after the film's release. Gunn has, however. told people how we're suppose to see and view Superman, and it's part of the promotional campaign for the movie. And as a result of that, I have zero desire to see this movie in theaters. This is in addition to all the other bullshit he's stuffed into his other series. So at the end of the day, no matter how "good" the material, I am not going to watching anything new that has Gunn's name attached to it. And no matter how many times that is said, it doesn't seem to sink in.

>>56533 No Gunn's remarks were not about the character that people that issue with. It's what his broad statements are saying. It's more comparable to Verhoeven who outright said he wanted his Starship Troopers to be a satirical jab at the fascist military society he viewed the book setting as. Yes he also admitted he didn't even finish the book but that's not relevant. Gunn only said the movie was about immigrants. Implying a pro immigration message at a time when that's being cracked down on. There's nothing in the actual movie about an immigration narrative whatsoever though.

>>56492 >you thought he was in the first place? I'm not one of the guys constantly fellating him. OG Beavis and Butthead great. King of the Hill was great. Most of what I've see from here is people speaking as if the man can do no wrong, at least until they saw some clips and episodes of nu-KotH. My statement is directed at them. If he's so amazing, why is he lowering himself like this? >how does that work when you're in an environment where the only way of getting ahead is being a certified jackass? Maybe I just got lucky, but I've gotten moderately ahead by specifically not being an asshole, as I watch everyone around me constantly have it bite them in the ass. All I do is the bare minimum while actually fearing the potential consequences of trying to do stupid and petty shit. I think I took to heart from a young age the words "learn from the mistakes of others", and specifically "rebelled" against my parents by not emulating their bad behavior, rather than attempt to emulate any particular person.

>>56534 >Gunn only said the movie was about immigrants. Implying a pro immigration message at a time when that's being cracked down on. There's nothing in the actual movie about an immigration narrative whatsoever though. Doesn't matter. They were promoting the film on being a movie about "immigration". And looking at even your explanations of the plot, I can see how (In their minds) that is exactly what they did. And like I said, topping this shit sundae of a PR disaster for a film franchise that was suppose to "save" DC and WB by extension, you have CC attacking "incels" (Which might as well be 99% of the population) and Peacemaker coming out of the closet just when we thought Johnny-Boy's dicksucking couldn't get any worse. If this how are these creators are treating these properties that they're in charge of, there is nothing that can be said or done that would give me a reason to set aside time out of my day in order to watch this shit. Why such a statement seems to drive you up the walls is what I'd say is the real topic of discussion here. >>56535 >Maybe I just got lucky, but I've gotten moderately ahead by specifically not being an asshole, as I watch everyone around me constantly have it bite them in the ass. All I do is the bare minimum while actually fearing the potential consequences of trying to do stupid and petty shit. I think I took to heart from a young age the words "learn from the mistakes of others", and specifically "rebelled" against my parents by not emulating their bad behavior, rather than attempt to emulate any particular person. All I can say is good on you for not letting yourself become a victim and managing to turn your life around. Hopefully the same can happen to your folks.

>>56484 Sounds like your parents hate their parents.

>>56580 They do. On one side there's trailer trash we never associated with much, and on the other side I lived with my grandmother for a while, and she burned all her money on illegal pills, fancy food, & farmville, and was also a kleptomaniac. The only relative I knew that I ever felt was a good person died, and I wish I had spent more time with him as a kid. I didn't know him well enough to model myself after him though.

>>56581 >The only relative I knew that I ever felt was a good person died, and I wish I had spent more time with him as a kid. I didn't know him well enough to model myself after him though. Reminds me a bit of my father talking about how he really adored this one uncle of his, that the rest of the family hated but he always treated by dad right. And he was distraught a few years back to find out that this uncle had passed and my aunts never told him word-one about it until months later because "Well, no one really liked him".