They'd been sprinkling hints for a while already. Vision mentions in Civil War that the number of people with abilities has skyrocketed over the past decade (which could have been a reference to Agents Of Shield's Inhumans, but come on, does anyone give a crap about AoS?) and Wasp I in Ant-Man 2 all but confirms her time in the quantum realm mutated her. Granted there's no X-gene involved, but I doubt the average moviegoer will know or care about the mutant-mutate distinction. That should make the irrational hatred of Marvel's general population for mutants over mutates all the more interesting to justify.

>>6690 Isn't the entire concept about mutants and "oppression" retarded in the first place? While the us has the 2nd, no other country allows an unlimited right to own a weapon. That means that mutants are walking WMDs and would be subjected to imprisonment or drafted into the army. Meanwhile, in the U.S., you'd see an even more militarized police force having ti combat the fact that they don't fully know if the person on the street is a mutant or a regular human.

>>6691 Mutant racism in the comics is retarded because mutants are hated in a world where people with superpowers are common place. The FF aren't hated despite being mutated by cosmic bullshit rays. Spider-man isn't hated despite obviously having powers. It's just bullshit powered heroes exist & are loved but mutants are an exception just for being mutants.

>>6692 Mutants are hated because there's literally a group called The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants that claims to speak for all mutants and not only openly promotes Mutant Supremacy and advocates for the subjugation and extinction of non-mutants, but also commits acts of terrorism on a worldwide or sometimes even galactic or universal scale. Then, the X-Men sometimes try to position themselves as the alternative, but still call themselves Homo Superior, act as if they are literally a different species, and say that they are literally more evolved than non-mutants. Then in more recent years, the X-Men have basically adopted all of the ideals of The Brotherhood and basically just joined them. It makes perfect sense to hate Mutants, regardless of their powers. Also, Reed Richards deliberately made the friends he mutated into celebrities specifically because he realized that they now no longer had the choice to continue being regular people, and if they were going to become well-known by the public, he had to get out in front of it and try to at least avoid, as much as possible, being seen as monsters. Of course the Fantastic Four were invented before The X-Men, but the invention of Mutants as a storytelling concept only makes this explanation work even better. Spider-Man is of course hated by the public most of the time, and might as well be a mutant. The Avengers consist of Captain America, a literal propaganda symbol made to be liked by the people, who also doesn't have overt powers. There's also Iron Man, again a guy without powers. Ant-Man sort of has powers but you could consider Pym Particles a tool like the Iron Man suit. Hawkeye and Black Widow don't have powers. Hulk is actually hated by the people most of the time, and frequently is an enemy of the Avengers and only sort of considered a member because he was involved in their first adventure. Thor... yeah I don't have good justification for Thor off the top of my head. And then sure there have been a zillion other guys on the Avengers over the years, including plenty of mutants, so idk. The non-mutants at least don't go around openly advocating for the subjugation or extinction of regular people, though.

>>6695 In more recent years yeah the X-men are hardly any better than the Brotherhood at times with their arrogance. The problem I think is there's been villains relating to powered heroes. Thor especially has relations with tons of other worldly threats. Kul the Serpent, Loki, Malekith, & heck even just the fact Asgard at one point just plopped itself right down in the desert by an active town would cause unrest or hatred towards him. Heck why aren't all the heroes hated for not doing things like stopping 9/11 or hurricanes destroying cities?

The Mutants and their place in the setting are poorly designed since they were designed as just a giant metaphor for Jews (with Xavier as an "assimilationist" who wants to have power among the goyim while Magneto was both an outright anti-goyim and a stand-in for Nazism) disguised as a metaphor for teenage rebellion against authority and as time went on they became stand-ins for fags (see the Legacy Virus which was invented when word spread of AIDs among homos) and Basketball-Americans and whatever victim group of the week (the Ultimates' universe threw in them standing for Muslims too). Treat having an "X-Gene" as like having Jewish blood. That is enough to make all the goyim around you turn on you and make everyone else with one your brother. That's the only way you can make it look like White American Boy Scott Summer would somehow be better off with a team including a blue-eyed Kenyan than one with other White American Boys.

>>6696 >Heck why aren't all the heroes hated for not doing things like stopping 9/11 or hurricanes destroying cities? The excuse would be the same as the excuse given for why one hero doesn't solve every problem. They're busy. Also, 9/11 shouldn't have even been a big deal in Marvel. The Juggernaut knocked over the World Trade Center just a few years earlier, and nobody cared. They had Magneto and Doctor Doom crying over it, when both of them are responsible for the deaths of millions or perhaps even billions, with various acts of terrorism which threaten not only the entire earth, but sometimes the entire universe or even multiverse. But we're supposed to think they would give a shit about 9/11. Of course, the best justification I've heard is that Magneto is crying over the two or three mutants that were killed in 9/11, and Doom is mad because those people died for no reason, but they could have died for Doom. DC handled 9/11 much better. They were in the middle of the Our Worlds At War crossover. Sure, maybe some towelheads knocked over some buildings, but it probably didn't even make the local news, considering that at the time, Imperiex was busy trying to destroy the entire universe, by focusing an attack specifically on Earth, specifically on Central Park, and every hero in the universe couldn't stop him. And the only reason he attacked Central Park is because only a couple years earlier, The Anti-Monitor almost destroyed all of existence, and again, Central Park was the most central location of that war, which resulted in it becoming the lynchpin of all of existence. Since then, they faced several invasions by guys like Darkseid, not to mention more run of the mill worldwide alien invaders like the Dominators or the Manhunters. Mongul and Cyborg Superman wiped Coast City off the map, which made Green Lantern destroy all of existence. Then The Sun Eater showed up and did exactly what everyone thought he would do. Then The Spectre went nuts and started fucking up the whole universe. And all of this is just counting threats that made every hero on earth team up. It's not even counting things that only required the attention of a single group, like the Justice League, Justice Society, Teen Titans, or Young Justice, who had all been pretty busy. And guys like Superman or Green Lantern routinely deal with galactic level threats all on their own. Plus it was right after Gotham City was struck by an Earthquake that devastated it so badly it was formally abandoned by the United States. Why would anyone care about something as small scale as 9/11? DC was smart to barely reference it. President Luthor probably had the buildings back up within a week. And there would be no point trying to argue that it was an inside job, because everyone knows if Luthor was gonna do something, he'd go big or go home. Plus it turned out he was busy planning to use a tractor beam to hurl a giant kryptonite meteor at the earth anyway. 9/11 is much too small time to make an impact on the DCU, and he knew it. Granted, in modern continuity, with the sliding-timescale and various crises, Superman only became an active superhero about 16 years ago or so. So 9/11 happened before the modern age of heroes, and maybe it was still a big deal, since the Golden Age Justice Society typically didn't deal with world-scale loss of life, or at least always managed to prevent it. But then in the 16 years that Superman has been around, they would have had to deal with Darkseid (multiple times), The Anti-Monitor, The Dominators, The Manhunters, Brainiac, Doomsday, Coast City, Parallax, The Sun Eater, The Spectre, Imperiex, various invasions from places like Themyscira and Atlantis, Superboy-Prime & Alexander Luthor, Jr., The Sinestro Corps War, The Black Lanterns, vampire over-monitors, the Crime Syndicate, that time Superman turned into a Doomsday and emitted a gas that killed anyone within a town's distance of him, a more powerful Brainiac from a different timeline, Darkseid and the Anti-Monitor at the same time, and probably a bunch of others I'm forgetting. So even if 9/11 was a big deal at the time, their world has been turned into a hellish nightmare since then, and they're probably yearning for the days when all they had to worry about was a bunch of cavemen stealing modern technology and using it against them. As far as cavemen go, at least they aren't as dangerous as Vandal Savage.

>>6699 The idea that the X-Men were created with any sort of metaphor in mind is bullshit. If they were, The Brotherhood would just be called The Brotherhood of Mutants, like in the Ultimate Universe, and not The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. The idea didn't start until the '70s when the series was heavily retooled under Claremont. Lee and Kirby clearly didn't think that deeply about it, but Lee was happy to take Claremont's idea, which, to be fair, Lee was probably involved with as he was the editor (and probably a somewhat hands-on one), and pretend like he had the idea all along. Really it was just the same story he also tells a lot, which is that he couldn't think of more origin stories so he just said they were born with their powers. Frankly, it's a problem when you go in the other direction, too. In DC they have the "metagene" but they don't single them out, and just treat "metahumans" as a group, regardless of if they have a metagene. So of course Superman is called a metahuman even though he's not even human and just a regular Kryptonian. Practically every major character isn't a metahuman, only a couple more minor ones. So any time they try to group them together it's stupid. The metagene idea is only somewhat useful for retcons like saying The Top (in both Marvel and DC) is a mutant/metahuman, to justify his otherwise silly origin of "he just trained to spin really good," or justifying the bad science of saying Jay Garrick didn't get powers from "hard water vapors," but just had his metagene activated by them. Marvel did the same to justify why Doctor Octopus can control his arms even when they aren't attached to him. The radiation he was exposed to activated his X-Gene. Basically, the X-Gene is just a lazy idea and fundamentally flawed, but it's too integral to remove it now, so they try to run with it. But no matter what you do with it, it's going to have problems upon close inspection.

>>6701 >Basically, the X-Gene is just a lazy idea and fundamentally flawed, but it's too integral to remove it now, so they try to run with it. So, the X-gene is as lazily applied as "The force" and simply becomes invisible magic.

>>6702 It works in Star Wars because Star Wars relies on fantasy. It doesn't work nearly as well in a more sci-fi based story like X-Men or Marvel in general.

>>6691 >>6692 >>6699 Mutants being in the main Marvel universe is just straight up retarded. It only generates potholes and inconsistencies. It does not contribute anything of value wither, since 90% of the time mutants are doing their own thing anyway. Only exception is the flavor of the month mutant being added to a flavor of the month superhero team. Mutant could keep mutants in their own separate universe, and just make up a storyline of how current popular mutant or mutants got stuck in 616 universe, continued superheroing despite that, and got invited to join the team until way to get back to the mutantverse is found. But it's Marvel, a company run by some of the biggest retards in the entertainment industry, and worshiped by the one of the shittiest fanbases there is. It's pretty Ironic that DC's universe cobbled together from IPs belonging to multiple different companies is more cohesive. >>6695 >Spider-Man is of course hated by the public most of the time, and might as well be a mutant. Spider-Manace should be brought to justice. He is ruining the city, and someone must take him down. You have to be blind to not see all problems he is constantly causing.

>>6704 >DC's universe cobbled together from IPs belonging to multiple different companies is more cohesive. Man that's not saying much. Hawkman alone is a mess of convoluted nonsense that needed multiple essays just to explain.

>>6704 Mutants and the X-Gene cause a few problems with close inspection, but the other thing to consider is that not only are mutants considered a separate race, even by themselves, and they claim to be superior, but they're also usually much more common than mutates. That said, it's stupid when they try to make them limited to practically just the X-Men. It kind of defeats the point. >>6712 Hawkman is internally fucked up, but not in a way that fucks up the outside universe and other characters. They can mash any version of him, even the fucked up amalgams that have been standard for the last 30 years, and they work just fine with characters like Captain Marvel, Plastic Man, or Blue Beetle, who originally all came from completely different companies.

The ultimate point is that these scenarios are written by shitlibs or faggots or Jews. They do not write with actual reality in mind. They write Mutants or psychics or whatever as more or less faggots/Kikes shitlibs/Muslims/Joggers except with extra Globohomo. How normies act towards Mutants is more or less how Jews see their history in Europe ("we dindu muffin and the goyim suddenly do pogroms against us") with extra faggot. The old arc with Senator Kelly was even supposed to be an attack on McCarthy even.

>>6701 >doc ock is a Muti What the fuck?

>>18941 But Lee and Kirby were jews and didn't do that. They made the regular people seem quite justified in not liking mutants, given the constant terrorist attacks by The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. Not that there was much social commentary in there at all. That started with Claremont.