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Astral travel by aliens Anonymous 06/21/2025 (Sat) 23:32:10 No. 12242
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_abduction The "astral" plane tends to be used to refer to what may better be called "spirit plane" or "other dimensions". Astral plane however seems to refer to the plane of stars, which in a modern view is simply "space". But the naming would come from an earlier cosmology where the stars were seen as objects glued on a dome, meaning the astral plane is the same as the ether plane, the air at the very top of the atmosphere. This left aside, what people experience in the common "alien abduction" tends to be something like being out at night, their car suddenly shuts down, then they see flashing lights and seem to have memory loss. They either find an hour of time missing, or they appear in a different location, not knowing how they ended up there. Later, some people will have flashes of memories appear, or nightmares about being in a metallic room with bright lights, being examined by the common ant-like grey aliens. With all this in mind, and feeling a bit annoyed at the fact that continuous astral travel seems very difficult to achieve, I decided to try something some months ago. My experience when successfully going into other planes with what I call "full dive", is that I have difficulty recalling what I did after coming back again. Time also seems to have sped up when out there, so that the experience is compressed into a spot in time. This resembles dreaming when asleep, where a 20 min dream can take place during a 5 min nap. Dreams are often hard to recall also, making it seem related in function. I wanted to see if it would be possible to test this by asking to be picked up by aliens, where I'm not actively in control, in the manner of an abduction, to see what I'd recall after. As I'm on good terms with greys in general, I went outside one night when it was very dark, and tried getting in contact with any greys up there. There are a lot more aliens around at any given time than most people probably want to be aware of, so this was pretty easy. It was a small saucer type vessel with two researchers onboard. I explained what I wanted to do, and asked if they could just pick me up and drive around the lake for 10 min, then put me back down again. They said they could do that, so I went to a high spot and waited. I saw a light high up in the sky, similar to a satellite or airplane (except it didn't blink, planes are supposed to have a white and red light blinking, most lights in the sky don't have that nowadays) and then I had a "blink", "mental skip" experience, after which I just had the inner vision of the saucer flying off again. I saw a dark shape briefly speed off in a split second vision which may or may not have been physical vision. After this, I first thought nothing happened, but I stopped my mind, traced back mentally, and the images were present. The inside of the ship, the two greys, the trip over the lake and back, as well as them communicating that they'd put me back down again. But there was no continuous awareness of this happening, it felt as if it hadn't happened. This felt frustrating, but still does match, sort of, what people normally say abductions are like. I want this thread to be about this kind of issue. How do you normally work with astral travel or visits to other planes when doing "full dives"? Share any experiences with this.
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>>12242 >How do you normally work with astral travel or visits to other planes when doing "full dives"? I sit seiza on the bed then let myself fall. It's like a cheetah prowling or maybe a prayer? On all four but the arms are flat. There is little tension in the arms to bring me back and this allows me to relax more fully. My legs hurt too helps with focus. I let my face on the bed flat so it feels like i am suffocating and have to almost fight to breath. Then i just let myself sink no thoughts focusing on the different pains and the act of breathing. I end up seeing things in the dark soon It is very physical and deep. The beings there are big meanies. When it's too much i use my arms to bring myself but slowly and i don't break the tempo of pains and breaths or i may bring something back. I guess this is more Abyss travel than Astral? I am not sure i never understood others experience of it to to me it's like they're lying. I sometimes go up but if i do it by myself i have to kick and kick my legs which is very hard energetically.
>>12243 >Abyss travel I may try this method to see what it leads to. And yeah, although everyone knows (?) what "astral" travel refers to, it's not right to call it "astral" when it's a descent into lower planes. Now that I'm thinking about it, this site https://spirittrainchronicles.com/ which is where I first learned any form of astral travel, was started after someone from an early version of https://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/ was trying to visit a "galactic light ship" physically, but failed. But what if he didn't fail? Maybe he went, but just didn't recall the visit after coming back? A perfectly done travel onboard an alien ship seems to cause minimal time skip and no physical relocation. The only way to have "real time" interaction is by some form of bilocation, via entering a trance and flying out there, while still slightly aware of the body. That causes memories to be incorporated directly with physical awareness, instead of appearing like dream scenes which must be actively recalled after returning. I've had the idea to try and go "out there" and change things which would cause permanent changes back in my physical state, so that it definitely is "proven" that I did thing. I also tried more recently to solve various physical problems while out there, at least that was my intent. By this I mean things which seem difficult to do while on Earth, but should be more doable in the vast space out there, with all the resources and technology which should be available. How do I know if the change transferred back with me? I did this again yesterday, but I can't recall what I wanted to solve. Maybe I solved it and the idea itself of this being an issue, was itself dissolved.
>>12253 The thing is also that any stories like this https://history.denverlibrary.org/news/western-history/man-who-hitched-ride-venus-allegedly just sound made up. Even with all the experiences I have of actual interactions with aliens, both over telepathy and of them coming down to RP as humans in various situations, I still can't relate to something like this, or find it interesting to me personally. I don't have a way to apply it, even if it was true.
I went on to try this method again 2 days ago. When outside at night, I scanned the available space for a location to visit. From regular bilocation astral travel I know there are space stations out there which are open to the public. They are either gas stations, hangars (for repairs) or bars/restaurants. Some are combinations of these, like a small space mall with different shops. One of my most used astral ships is a model I found on an old storage media at a junk shop behind a restaurant. Some of these also deliver food, including to Earth, but it would probably breach the function of timelines and dimensions if you were to try ordering from them directly into physical reality. Maybe it could be done if you allowed yourself to believe that it was a regular home delivery from someplace local. It's not that they can't interact here, there's just something about the ruling consensus of dimensions. It's possible to order food to locations that aren't directly physical in the ordinary sense. I do this now and then. You need federation currency for this, it translates (at least for me) into silver units as standard, divided into copper for smaller sums. The way things are priced may seem a bit inconsistent from Earth view. A regular meal at a restaurant is between 2 -4 silver. This is the same price as buying a slave contract. But slaves here refer just to workers, they are very protected by policies and can't be mistreated. There are however mining slaves who are considered "genetic and soul-wise trash", and they have no rights.
>>12299 I found an open bar within range. It seems these change over time, probably caused by the movements of stars and planets, which makes some stations "in range" for limited times of the year. I then scanned the sky for any alien ships nearby. The first I found was a Raider ship, crew made up of fur-beasts headed to a mining colony. They said they were full and weren't making any stops. The next ship I saw was a large white, seemingly transport vessel shaped like a paper plane. The crew was made up of tall blonde women wearing red uniforms. They said they were passing by the space bar I had seen, and were willing to put me off there. I could ride with them there for 2 silver. "But you have to make it back on your own." I agreed to this, and they said they'd teleport me up. Then I experienced the same kind of mental "skip" with my energy changing drastically, feeling as if I had been connected to something, and I thought at first that this was them tuning into me to teleport me up. Then I realized I was just put back again after the trip. I felt disoriented for a few moments, then looked back mentally and all the memories of the trip were there. Being moved onboard the large paper plane shaped ship, sitting on a wall mounted bench in a bright room, just outside was a corridor leading to the bridge which was just open floor plan with some more sitting space at the back, and it also seemed to have large potted plants like in an office. There was a lot of open space inside the ship, the room I was in was empty aside from the wall mounted bench, I'd say it was maybe 20 square meters in size. Everything was in a soft light yellow colour, except for the seats which were in brown with a red-yellow hint. I was then put off at the space bar, which was rather small. After visiting the shops, feeling done with what I wanted to achieve, I walked around a bit looking for someone going in the opposite direction back to Earth. There were two proto-grey researcher on their way there, and they said I could ride with them. The ship was rather small with just two pilot seats and some bed coverings on a thin mattress in the back, along with some boxes and bags. I sat there on the way back, and they put me off again in the exact time and location I had left from.
>>12300 This was two days ago, and since then a number of telepathic and other interactions took place, involving a smaller "paper plane" ship coming back again looking for me. They said they had seen on the flight log that I rode with them, and came back to talk to me. One of the women in red stayed on Earth for a day doing some kind of research, I only saw her in the morning and in the night before she left again. I received a communicator device, by which I was able to connect with an operator, same blonde woman type. The connection was distant and it was explained to me it was similar to an old copper wire phone, transferring data could be done, but would be slow as a modem. I was able to ask for some technology blueprints, which were transferred over, including a "paper plane" ship, a mining tool set, and a "food generator" with a recipe collection.
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During the night, when I should be sleeping, some part of me decided it was time for another trip, which by now I'm not going to retell because the format was the same, with an exception: the space station had a set-up where visitors wouldn't meet each other, and the shops would change assortment depending on who visited. I saw 3 other vessels in the hangar, but didn't run into anyone else while there, as a result. The station was build like a square shaped corridor with entry by the hangar with a repair shop, then on the right corridor was a restaurant/bar and a junk shop. On the far side corridor was a brothel with humans (by appearance, not sure what race they actually are) and the left corridor, same, but they had fur and looked more feline/fox. At the junk shop I looked at various stuff, and found some storage media with ship blueprints. Some of them were kind of unstable in design, a two story flying saucer emitting blue light, and one metallic with a more classic lamp-shade shape. They looked like they were just badly designed, like whoever made them didn't have a full grasp on how to build them, or had wanted to include a range of functionality which didn't go well together. I ended up paying a small sum for a rather large and strange "ship" and a smaller craft which looked more like something to use when flying between larger ships or surface to surface within a planet, or just shorter distances, because it was very small and it would probably be boring to travel long distances just sitting in a chair with a small storage space behind your back. There was also a storage media with some general technology guidelines, which I still don't know what they are. >pic The ships looked something like this. Now that I'm trying to write this down, I realize I don't quite recall what happened in any order, I mixed up a number of things, aside from details I intentionally left out. In some half asleep state, I managed to get picked up twice, not once, so the memories turned it into one event, and I don't know how much of it was just regular dreams.
>>12253 >although everyone knows (?) It's messy..and relative Depending on your state of mind you may end up in different space entirely. I remember when i first traveled abroad, the air felt different, the entire place was in a higher dimension. Of course we aren't simply talking about astral space here, you wake up in different layers constantly but traveling is similar to gray technology if not primitive. You're using technology to "move about" to higher and lower spaces creating portals "airways" to different dimensional locations using an abyssal medium "oil" as fuel. And then you have the internet.. Walking is similar you move through different locations using different systems that are built upon multidimensional bodies. Sorry if this sound a bit maddening, i think you made a good thread but you're warping it in your own conception **which works btw" so i am adding my own to hopefully create a diversity or else nobody can post here i can't even penetrate your other posts there is an annoying backlash i can't find the docking station it's either "rape" or leaving it alone.. Concerning memories they have attachments embedded in emotional layers.. So forcing to remember is "writing in blood" this is an infernal concept but i may as well talk about it. When you "remember hell" you write in runes in your body so it translates in memory, this also create an internal portal if not guarded make you more alike and heighten the experiences. The way it moves in the body is strange ..have to be liked by what you interact if you leave it open too.. I am not sure which would be best, maybe simply different bodies and not refining them together but using a "hub" system so it translate to human "cuneiform" or accepting that you're becoming closer to what you're interacting with and somehow holding into your human experiences. Or just maintain it as a dream "unreal" protects the mind after all. I am interested in how the grays do surgery currently it seems different from ours but i am not sure how to connect to them properly.
>>12508 >When you "remember hell" you write in runes in your body so it translates in memory This would be why the hostile occultists I see always have black runes on their body. >i am adding my own to hopefully create a diversity or else nobody can post here i can't even penetrate your other posts That's what I meant the thread to be for: to share different views. We don't have to understand what others say at once.
I began meditating many years ago. For the most part I stay centered in my body and only contact G-d. However, I began to do some non physical Astral projection after travelling while meditating to another galaxy and seeing an enlightened being there who I was connecting with. There was simultaneously a connection with a third individual. One was walking in a desert region that was bright, sandy, and reddish, and one was in mountainous region that looked sort of like the Himalayas. One was doing sitting meditation and one was walking. I occasionally go there since to see whatsyp they are very my kind of peeps. Since then I began experimenting with out of body projection more . I found that I could fly around my neighborhood, the country, leave the Earth, leave the Solar System, leave the Galaxy. I have found that I can visit and connect with people who I know, and although I can always see directly what they are physically doing I can perceive the condition of their inner self at the time. I've also found I can project to other states in time (as distinct from physical time travel), and, thinking back on it, had a similar experience as above earlier in life when I witnessed or made contact with a Persian or Sumerian/Akkadian. I have also had visions of the future in which sky scrapers and gardens levitate over the ocean using some kind of super conduction or magnetism. I suppose that I could actually collect some type of information as was done by CIA in project Stargate, but I don't think that I have much interest in that and jt probably wouldn't be that accurate in detail
Did you know; Astral travelling is a Jamaican term ... Quite a beautiful history there fyi
>>12585 Astro - Traveling * my mistake
More than anything, for many many years I would travel around the ocean just before bed, while falling asleep, and visit sea turtles or whales. It relaxes me and makes me happy


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