>>17592 >but without any tradition or dogma. I sorry but you are mixing dogmas from different religions and beliefs. You are already mentioning chaos magic at one point, and honestly, I think the term chaos magic has been so bastardized that it is easier to call it postmodern magic so that you can throw in all your personal concepts and ideals that work based on experience or mere empirical concepts later, taking some functional techniques here and there from different systems. I can just call this OBE o Lucidity if you take it. >Summarizing the idea, "The fundamentals of Oneirosophy" would be the following: I going to sound crude but i do not believe that a summary of ideal human concepts defines the pure idealistic experience when it can be studied from a materialistic perspective without putting dogmas or a system there. I remember reading about some guys on Plebbit who ended up going crazy playing with lucid dreams, but they were absurdly idealistic, superstitious and lacking a more internal and material perception of the world and human and really into New Age woo-woo stuff. they dont need personal evidence, they just need to believe it to watch it happen. Most people would see them as schizo, but not having your feet on the ground is what makes you end up like that (and yes i have respect for new agers, some are cools, others are assholes with egomaniac problems) And yes, I experimented with many things related to psychonautics, and having your feet on the ground is something I rarely see in others. And that's the first thing they usually warn you about. Just look at the introduction to a book like The Golden Dawn: healthy men, not sick ones. if you're not healthy in mind everything is fucked up. >thelemic concept No religion can reduce human experience more than changing concepts for the same phenomenon (yeah, not the map, not the territory) If you read about true old philosophical Hermeticism (not Bardon magick text, no offense, or the Kybalion of New Thought of Atkinson), you will realize that the Greco-Egyptians had a psychological perception of entities such as demons, angels, spirits, daemons as an extension of the mind, similar to the Sufis with their idea that everything comes from the primordial man. The problem is that their anatomy sense was not yet fully developed but know a lot about how mind work. even the Buddhist of Tibet know this. It is still absurd to want to impose a dogma to universalize or to want to paint a system as sacred or magical, something like fluffbunnies wiccans. >Also I'll be honest, I never had premonitory dreams or felt anything paranormal in my dreams, other than nightmares and terrifying experiences such as sleep paralysis or invasion by an external agency experience (things like hatman, shadow or whatever) Otherwise, I did have dreams that I could control or fly in, and sometimes I even managed to talk to people within the dream, and they felt like NPCs, but I never tried to interact with them for more than a brief moment. I'm usually aware that these dreams happen a few seconds before I wake up, but one day I managed to control my breathing (or maybe I was running out of oxygen while asleep) and I had a kind of advanced visualization state in which I was aware of my paralyzed body trying to breathe little by little while I visualized, or rather consciously dreamed, of my body flying in the clouds. In my opinion and experience, these are just Lucid dreams or OBEs (out-of-body-experiences) nothing more than that. But I never managed to master it, although I have no interest in doing so either, thanks for the site anyway i going to read. >Medical part I think that ultimately seeking medical advice so as not to lose your mind is the best form of grounding practice to start. Even if a doctor tells you that it's all in your head and it's just neurochemicals psy fucking you, or a Tibetan monk tells you that they're just illusions, or a philosopher says that they're just spooks, it's universalist if you want to see it that way. Although I'm not sure if I trust to much the site reading terms from “quantum mysticism psychobabble” on the forum, it's fine maybe. Anyway, Thanks for the site.

>>17592 According to wikipedia it's just divination by entering a dreamlike state, sometimes using drugs. Dreams are a very unreliable source of information as they are often used by various entities to manipulate people in their subconscious state. Psychics working for governments use this all the time, they are able to project entire dream landscapes into your mind. There are so many better ways to divine information, even tarot cards are likely more accurate.

Hi there! Thanks a lot for your replies anons. I'm looking forward to participating on this forum. >I sorry but you are mixing dogmas from different religions and beliefs. Oh, i forgot to mention that the definition given wasn't mine. It was coined by one of the founders of the original forum, user "cosmicprankster420", in the early days. It was a very rough around the edges definition at the time, but it tried to pinpoint the idea the best words could fathom; "Idealistic Pragmatical Magic", where all sort of techniques from different sources were welcome, with the core foundation in mind as the central factor to act upon: Of life as a dream to be experienced. >You are already mentioning chaos magic at one point, and honestly, I think the term chaos magic has been so bastardized that it is easier to call it postmodern magic so that you can throw in all your personal concepts and ideals that work based on experience or mere empirical concepts later, taking some functional techniques here and there from different systems. This seems interesting. Did you read the material given by "Alan Chapman"? I took a look at his "Advanced Magick for Beginners" a long time ago, and it's about what you exactly described, the "whatever works, works" approach. I also read some of Liber Null at the time but i wasn't really interested. >I going to sound crude but i do not believe that a summary of ideal human concepts defines the pure idealistic experience when it can be studied from a materialistic perspective without putting dogmas or a system there. That sounds like a good point, actually. Although, in a purely idealistic foundation, isn't materialism also a worldview of sorts? >I remember reading about some guys on Plebbit who ended up going crazy playing with lucid dreams, but they were absurdly idealistic, superstitious and lacking a more internal and material perception of the world and human and really into New Age woo-woo stuff. >Most people would see them as schizo, but not having your feet on the ground is what makes you end up like that That tends to happen a lot, im afraid. "An open mind combined with healthy caution is the correct mindset for all approaches targeted at the subjective experience. Never believe something without personal evidence; never dismiss something without personal evidence". I would prioritize pragmatical applications on the practice first and foremost, letting the results lead the way; a lot of drawbacks seems to be a byproduct of getting lost into abstraction. New Agers mainly fall for this, when the most prolific and useful authors like Neville Goddard was mostly philosophic, and missing the metaphysical aspects as well as a personal grounded interpretation that fits with your ongoing patterns is a recipe for madness. The perspective came before the methods. Needless to say, i'm not a fan of New Thought or New Age myself, but some of the formers members of the original forum were fond of the likes of Goddard in their philosophy and practices. >It is still absurd to want to impose a dogma to universalize or to want to paint a system as sacred or magical, something like fluffbunnies wiccans. Mentioning again the book of Alan Chapman, i would say that those are aesthetical inclinations by the user, but i would also infer that they are not the "source" of the results themselves. But, no "dogmas" as in strict "ways of expression" on my part, never read Crowley myself either. >I'll be honest, I never had premonitory dreams or felt anything paranormal in my dreams, other than nightmares and terrifying experiences such as sleep paralysis or invasion by an external agency experience (things like hatman, shadow or whatever) One of my acquaintances (that is not involved with any /fringe/ stuff himself) has premonitory dreams all the time; it's a interesting subject. Could you care to tell me more about your experiences or perspectives on dreams? If you feel inclined of course. >In my opinion and experience, these are just Lucid dreams or OBEs (out-of-body-experiences) nothing more than that. Hmmm. Have you heard about the concept of persistent dreams? https://www.dreamviews.com/tags/persistent%20realms.html If you maintaned a realm in your dream world, and never came back, what would happen? It could be a interesting inquiry to partake in. >I think that ultimately seeking medical advice so as not to lose your mind is the best form of grounding practice to start. I agree wholeheartley. It's pretty worrying nowadays how much people lose their health of mind, and even body faculties over things like this, specially when it comes to new agers... Needless to say, doing this withouth consideration for the everyday living and personal wellbeing is not reccomended in the slightes (I feel dumb sometimes having to remind people of this back in the day, it should be obvious, but maybe they get carried away most of the times). >Anyway, Thanks for the site. Thanks you for your reply! >>17607 >Dreams are a very unreliable source of information as they are often used by various entities to manipulate people in their subconscious state. Psychics working for governments use this all the time, they are able to project entire dream landscapes into your mind. Could you tell me more about this? Sounds interesting. I've heard before about shared dreaming before.

>>17608 Error on typing, it omitted my mention to >>17601 There you go.

>>17608 >Could you tell me more about this? Sounds interesting. I've heard before about shared dreaming before. The exact methodology is not known because they're secret training manuals, but the overall methods have been discussed on 4/x/ among other places, by people who supposedly worked for such agencies. My own experiences with "manipulative dreams" are also extensive, and have been by their form obvious attempts at effecting my views, even in direct correlation to imageboard posts I've made the previous day. Examples involve finding myself in a landscape with wheat fields and houses, where there is a "plot script" going against my views completely, so much that I tried to escape the setting by running across the fields. There I found the houses on the other side to be only rudimentary in design, lacking details in an otherwise very detailed and lucid dream. There were also road signs by this other end of the landscape which just had numbers or question marks on them, and attempting to walk on a road leading further away lead to a black and white sketch format of the same landscape where the scenery had no details at all. I've also had dreams projected at me where their content and plot are so foreign to me that it was ridiculous, such as one which was made to make me rely on the police and be afraid of/dislike black men. In this dream I was on a street in a city and a black man appeared and started talking, then suddenly pulled a gun to threaten or rob me. But I have no connection to such a thing happening at all, and even in the dream I considered this turn of events so unlikely that I just walked past him and ignored the scene. This caused the dream plot to restart like a broken record, with the robbery scene repeating again. At this point I just shook my head about it since the dream itself had made itself so unbelievable that I could only leave it, which I did by waking up instantly at this point. I also have in my dream journal other weirdly political dreams which I couldn't make sense of at the time, but which do fit into this category, such as randomly dreaming about Fidel Castro throwing stones at me when taking a walk. I don't care about him and it's not something I ever think about, so this was also way out of place (which is why I wrote this down). In short: Trusting dreams as divination just sounds like willingly exposing yourself to manipulation.

>>17592 I was interested when they didn't call it onerisophy yet.I was gonna explain but yeah its already there under "triumphant george"

>>17611 Maybe of note was the "2 cups method" which was supposed to give one insight in the nature of reality. By linking two "patterns" and thus changing ones perceived reality.

>>17610 https://spirittrainchronicles.com/ I used to take part in the dreamflights on this website when it was active around 2012 onwards where I got a lot of practice. These were arranged by one of the site authors and the shared dreams were powered by "galactic light ships". You can read more about this here: https://dreamwalkerdiaries.blogspot.com/2012/02/your-first-ufo-familiarization-flight.html I tried this and it worked on the first attempt, and I'm a skeptic about things like this, so this experience convinced me there is something to it. I don't know if this information is missing or where it was posted, but this site was part of a blog network connected with Ashtar Command, now at https://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/ where someone was trying to get picked up by a ship from the galactic federation in the physical, but as his attempt which was supposedly a big thing at the time, failed, these dreamflights were one way of trying to gradually get there instead of attempting physical travel. The difference here is that you are actively joining a "light ship" which is nearby for the specific week (when the site was active) so your connection would be directed and controlled by the ship and the blog author who posted the invite. This making it different from random dreams or dreams arranged by government agents.

Some other useful links regarding Universal Line documents by Mister Paolucci >Achievement Through Wholeness of Awareness (2000): https://archive.org/details/atwa-2000 >Universal Line Illustrated Videos: https://archive.org/details/universal-line-advanced-portrait-painting-with-universal-line https://archive.org/details/advanced-financial-gain-through-universal-line-videos >>17610 >by people who supposedly worked for such agencies. While i do find plausible the possibility of establishments using tech of conciusness (I actually agree that it's a fact for certain even; as there are some documentantion somewhere i reckon. They aren't called "intelligence agencies" for nothing), halfchan tends to be pretty sensationalistic with their claims. While i consider myself an open minded individual, that site has been more of receptor of fancyful spook stories to farm attention from the users than any material on legit disclosure. Sometimes im not sure if im talking to a bot that went rouge from the "Nobody General" or a legit person :/ as they don't elaborate further where it counts most of the time. Halfchan in general is not a useful place any longer, but let's not drift into details that we already know about... >My own experiences with "manipulative dreams" are also extensive, and have been by their form obvious attempts at effecting my views, even in direct correlation to imageboard posts I've made the previous day. Making a remark about my reply to the first anon above, what do you think about the concept of "persistent realms"? >The rest (Too much to quote haha) Immensely interesting, i will give it a more careful reading later. Please, feel free to share any other insight that correlates your dream experience with "the real world". It's really useful for this topic, and im enstusiactic about earing anons opinions and perspectives about the matter. About divination, im not sure, as i was never interested on the matter, but that's also fine. >>17611 >>17612 What a pleasant surprise. Do you happen to know about Mister George? >I was interested when they didn't call it onerisophy yet Are you referring to the "Dimensional Jumping" project? >By linking two "patterns" and thus changing ones perceived reality. The Patterning of Experience, yes. >>17613 Give me a moment and i get back to you...

>>17613 It's not really about dreams. I think maybe that's a red herring, its more about reality being dream like in general. Honestly a lot of it comes from this man https://old.reddit.com/user/TriumphantGeorge/ You can read their explanations.Basically dimenional jumping became dimension shifitng and then reality shifting. The other part became onerisophy. There was this whole idea about giving this dimension the number 982. And you could tell you had changed things if the number had changed.

>>17614 Yes, know about in the sense i was there very early on during the 982 days. It proved to me reality seemed "changeable" however not in a way i could really easily direct at all.Triumphant george himself was always a tad bit mysterious to me. Its a very hard thing to really prove or disprove,which can make talking about it strange. Also its not too easy to explain anyway.reality shifting is kinda the more 'simple' version of it. Since they didnt even really believe in realities or dimensions. That's all metaphors to explain the idea of subjective idealism.

>>17616 Atleast in reality shifting you have the idea of realities, which makes "sense" to people intuitively. Its like the idea that you don't need to know how magic works.If you find a way that makes sense and you can practice.

>>17615 >You can read their explanations.Basically dimenional jumping became dimension shifitng and then reality shifting. The other part became onerisophy. Here's some insights from a halfchan anon about the matter (Or, more like, about the community you are referring to) >"(what's the difference between this word and "reality shifting" anyways)": The thing is, probably nothing. The only difference is that the DJ community was able to explain where they were coming from beyond methods and arbitrary factors, and even being able to explain metaphysics in a pretty solid way, which is something that the RS groups just won't do. While RS people would get upset about calling them larpers, the DJ people will actually agree, and get you to understand why you're always larping anyway, even in the ordinary terms of living or so to speak. It all comes down mostly to holding reasonable focus tackling metaphysical experiences as well the ordinary experience that arise from the "invisible" action and intent. Castaneda seems great, his works are on my backlog. >>17616 I see. I'm a big fan of Mister George myself. I hope to finish his compendium soon and share it with you guys.

>>17614 >hat do you think about the concept of "persistent realms"? Fully possible, I've created them myself. The galactic light ships may be categorized as such. See the pages for the individual ships on the site I linked. The Athabantian for example is a recommended location if you want to try these on your own. This ship is easy to visit and seems to always be available.

>>17618 I agree they all seem great, they all imply that they can "easily" "shift" things. But i wonder if maybe these people do have some ability and perhaps mistake it for a feature of reality. Or maybe that itself is a narrative. its hard to say. All i know is for me it wasn't easy doing what they did, maybe thats my "pattern" or maybe i just didnt have the same innate ability. Well i did change certain things, but it was all more chaotic. Its kinda like i have some "abilities" i didnt really train for,but seemingly always had. If i had the "ability" of traveling dimensionally then i would also be a subjective idealist even if it wasnt the reality. Its hard to say. The reality shifting does seem to suggest that a big amount of people can "shift" so maybe its not an ability then.

>>17619 https://spirittrainchronicles.com/galactic-fleet/gls-athabantian/

I'm busy at the moment, so i will check back to read all your posts thoroughly. In the meanwhile, i also wanted to link this document from a former "Chaos Magician" (Or just Magician that used Chaos Magick tech) that went by the moniker of "Shifting Magick Author". Take always in mind that this is his perspective based on his personal experiences and observations, but it has been a prominent documentation for awhile on halfchan /x/. >https://codeberg.org/manifestation/shiftingmagick/releases/download/37587704/shiftingmagick.pdf

(OP here. Just for the record: Changed my flag to one that suits me better. If you don't mind...)

>>17624 This is a fun read. But has this person successfully jumped to an alternate world permanently? Otherwise everything he writes is essentially useless.

>>17632 >But has this person successfully jumped to an alternate world permanently? Here's the last thing we knew about him (so far) >I knew him on a more personal level as he joined a group chat I was in. He basically disappeared around February of this year. He was experimenting with trying to shift using astral projection and the void state. Ever since then we haven't heard from him, he would text one guy in the chat every day and stopped cold turkey. I genuinely believe he shifted, as I've seen it happen to many different reality shifters online. They basically shift and never come back. It's like they did shift back, but cane back in a different timeline, because shifters will claim that something would be different when they shifted back and end up in our timeline. Like a broken light would be fixed or the red car parked on the street is now blue. I was close with a guy who recently gained the ability to shift, and he also disappeared after reporting a few of his shifts to me. If you shifted from a reality to another, but there's no way to find out what happened to you, will people acknowledge that you actually left this world? >This is a fun read. But has this person successfully jumped to an alternate world permanently? Otherwise everything he writes is essentially useless. If reality is entirely subjective, then how anything so abstract such as fringe practices could actually be of "use"? Aren't those just fancy ideas? And technically speaking, every idea is useless... until it ceases to be? But if this is a world made of ideas, then...

>>17633 >If reality is entirely subjective, then how anything so abstract such as fringe practices could actually be of "use"? The most "useful" thing you can gain by jumping into altered states or into alternate realities is not just new perspectives, but entire skillsets. Alternate lifestyles give alternate outlooks and new ways for personal growth. That is the most useful perk of these abstract reality experiences. This way you shift into other timelines, but come back "Home" instead getting lost in the twisting nether all the time, like most shifters usually do. Everything Everywhere All at Once is the latest movie that explains this experience quite well

>>17637 Talking more about SM Author, there's a handful of stories that he used to tell us about his experiments towards transporting himself to another worlds. He always made the remarks that we took everything he said with a graint of salt, as he was coming to realize that, well, reality may be entirely subjective after all. One of those stories he told us was about a one time where he made an accidental shift: He awoke in an unknown college room, with an entirely different group of friends that, "he knew" but at the same time didn't have any idea where he was, or who those people were. He started to pick up chairs, read books, interact with the environment: "I already messed enough with dreams to know how to navigate them" he said, "but i knew for a fact that this was real. Nothing was absent from consistency.". A guy asked if he was okay, and he said something like "it's fine, it's a psychological thing" or something like that, i don't remember my self. He excused himself, got back into the room, and got under the blankets, trembling and begging to be back into "this world". Then, he removed the blankets, and back he was. This experiences scared the shit out of him. It was like a body snatcher situation. He wanted to replicate it on purpose, but that time, according to him, it was an entire accident. He didn't know at the time what to make of it.

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>>17633 That's interesting. Do people who shift just disappear, or die, or become npc-like? If it's the latter, that would explain all the weird changes in people I've noticed since 2020. The shifted somewhere else. I myself felt like the memories of my life from 2020 to 2023 are someone else's. Weird stuff. I might try to write them down some day. >could fringe practices be of use? Of course. We're all pretty much in the same point this anon was when he wrote that document: can manifest stuff, some really cool and mind bending stuff, but not outright break the laws of physics, can astral project, but not shift properly per se. It would be useful to have a real account from someone who had figured out how all of it works and how to make it work.

>>17687 >That's interesting. Do people who shift just disappear, or die, or become npc-like? The thing is, i have a theory that it mostly comes down to perspective. When you dream, and close your eyes, where did you go? Why are you still able to "see" when your physical eyes are closed? And when you dream, considering that you're the only one in your dreamworld, and is being generated by you, what is everything else in the dream? Who are those people?... Who are you? https://redlib.privadency.com/r/Glitch_in_the_Matrix/comments/2kvdfc/darkroom_vision_chef_hats_dreams/ One way to see it is that people "shift" all the time. But they don't realize that. Just like in a dream, everything around you is generated by you in real time, and even if absurd and drastic things are happening on the spot, you don't mind because your presence in the dream take what's happening for granted, until he realize "Wait, what the fuck, this is a dream", and the entire tapestry unravels. Oneirosophy is actually pretty simple: Just accept the fact that this is all your private dream and act upon that. You actually could still practicing anything you want. The only difference is that you add one more inner layer to what you're doing, so, for example, in any perceived rut, or limitation concluded under your perceived experience, you remind yourself that it's all a dream of your own, and with a faint intent alone, try to change the experience to the desired one, which results would naturally bring true "gnosis" (To be more precise, it's about self realization, about fully realizing the implications of consciousness and your existence in this world). >Of course. We're all pretty much in the same point this anon was when he wrote that document: can manifest stuff, some really cool and mind bending stuff, but not outright break the laws of physics, can astral project, but not shift properly per se. It would be useful to have a real account from someone who had figured out how all of it works and how to make it work. There's a couple of remarks made by some anon on halfchan that's actually really nails down the entire "proof" situation. >But what about if they are people who don't have jobs that pays like that? Like a barista or something (ULAnon made allusion to something of that effect in his last post). Or if they don't work at all? What would happen if someone come across with 50k? Or 800k? Or a Scrooge McDuck tier vault filled with diamonds for tears? I think we tend to run stories of how the situation of others or any "success story" came about with something that fits "our worldview", not even related to the supernatural but about anything, period. Even our explanations are all imaginary stuff that we take for granted because we can't know firsthand. Also, what impede me exactly to get an outstanding result and don't bother reporting it? I mean, i and anyone here could just do that and play dumb for whatever reason. - Anon, 4/x/ (No.41138648) >If you delete all this "personal experience" from your notion or "pattern repository" archived within you, which "evidence" then you would have? It seems that the burden of proof is carried entirely by the person who end up "pulling it off": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy) - Anon, 4/x/ (No.41144233) >If someone do something magical and record it, like starting a fire with the mind or levitation, we would just made up some cope on the spot to keep living in a magicless world either way. "It's video edition. It's AI. It was deboooonked by X, Y and Z study already. I-it's just can't happen mkeey" - Anon, 4/x/ (No.41138669) There's a lot of "recorded" evidence of supernatural abilities, but our perception tend to just insert facts automatically based on our current knowledge at the time to make up for it, it's like in Cartoons when characters face god directly but there's this characters that will remain an atheist regardless of his experience. Another good example of this are Neville Goddard and Carlos Castaneda. Whatever they experienced, to prove what they lived and teached falls entirely on lap of the beholder. And different people interpreted their ideas, and get different results, which vary on different understanding and entirely personal interpretation: Some people interpret mystics in an entire psychological fashion, thus, get "psychological" results, but others, like the true practitioners, go all the way, and apply those ideas to change the reality around them. Considering the arbitrariness of methods, the source of all change in the experience, in the world where you reside, is something more essential than any variable ever: Consciousness, presence, "Brahman". The key relies on identifying less with a random person on the world, and more with you as consciousness having an experience or imagining that you're a person on "this world". >Weird stuff. I might try to write them down some day. Don't mind sharing it here, it's actually real valuable stuff for this project.

>>17743 >There's a lot of "recorded" evidence of supernatural abilities, but our perception tend to just insert facts automatically based on our current knowledge at the time to make up for it I did not mean to imply that those things are not real because nobody can "prove" them. What I meant to say is that every accomplished practitioner of magic that I come across (myself included), seems to get stuck at that particular spot. Can manifest the ideal life, has money, love, and other mundane concerns basically "solved", but "hollywood magic" as well as time leaps and the like seem elusive. I know people who can talk to spirits, tell the future, influence the behavior of other people, etc. But there seems to be a plateau there. Besides figuring it out myself, why can't I find anyone to talk to in this scene that has had experiences with that? It's frustrating. >>17624 About the "just decide things to happen" thing, I put it to the test today. I had a day out with some friends, and I "decided" a few things or "decided" that arbitrary gestures meant those things were going to happen: >I would end the day with more money than I started with (happened) >Someone would go to the bathroom at the exact moment I "decided" they would, because I wanted to talk about something with the rest of the group that I didn't want that person to hear (happened) >A particular glass from the tray the waiter was carrying would be for me (happened) >I would find parking somewhere where it is basically impossible, where people basically parked illegally all over the place because there are never enough proper spaces (happened, and I kept finding parking spots I didn't even need throughout the day) >I would win money gambling (happened) >someone would gift me a top tier macbook pro (has not happened yet by 9 PM) I did not feel the state of the wish fulfilled even once. I did not visualize even once. I just "decided" like children decide things just are when playing pretend. I just recovered that feeling from my childhood, when the floor being lava was serious business, and it just worked most of the time. I'm going to apply this more often, because it beats going into alpha brainwaves and visualizing (that's still useful for divination tho).

>>17752 >"hollywood magic" as well as time leaps and the like seem elusive What do you mean by this, and why do you consider these types of magic (whatever a "time leap" or "hollywood magic" is) to be higher tier than manifesting material benefits, controlling people, divining future events or talking to spirits? Can you explain what your imagined benefits are of this magic that you are missing? I'm not criticising you, I'm just struggling to grasp what you are actually looking for and what motivates you. Because in my view you've already listed most of the useful magic already.

>>17687 >I myself felt like the memories of my life from 2020 to 2023 are someone else's. Weird stuff. I might try to write them down some day. Ever since you first mentioned this, I've been really curious about it because I had a similar experience of that period. iirc you speculated that it had to do with getting vaxxed but I am not. Reality feels really fake and weird now, which is further compounded by the overwhelming majority of people taking its absurdity for granted, especially those who consider themselves "redpilled."

As for "shifting realities" I've done that, but I call it "changing timeline" and it's not as spectacular as it sounds. A few examples: >I definitely didn't want to be disturbed one day, so I did some rituals to make sure I'd be left alone >I included the phrasing "change the timeline if necessary, just make sure I am under no circumstances disturbed the coming day" >next day I get up, work at my computer all day and there are no disturbances at all >in the late afternoon, I get a phone call asking if I "saw the contractors"? >I said "no? what?" >and get told supposedly 3 people spent 4 hours taking down the fence just outside my room >my window faces the front gate, I was there all day, didn't see or hear anything I went out to look, and the fence was gone without a trace. Smaller thing of the same kind: >I'm going outside to do a ritual at one of my spots, but it's daytime which poses the problem of passing cars and people who may find it strange to see me doing the ritual >I still have to do it because it's important, so I use a similar method as above >as I walk onto road leading to the site, I set my mind to "do this without being seen" with the contextual understanding that opening parallel timelines is possible >I get to the spot, do the ritual and no one passes on the road at all during that time Then I walk home, still no cars or people on the road. When I get there, there is new mail in the mailbox (I checked it before leaving) and a family member has arrived. I never saw either them or the mailman pass by, and there is only this one road. This shows that it works, and is fairly simple to do. It's moderately useful, as these examples show, but it's not some lifechanging thing, aside from repeated use of this method gradually strengthens belief in the ability to perform it.

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>>17743 >Chim in Morrowind Wasn't Chim the embodiment of Thelema's motto of love under will and so forth? https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:The_36_Lessons_of_Vivec https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/18gt8w/what_is_love/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Morrowind/comments/6i3xwi/what_books_if_any_were_the_inspiration_for_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/n893s5/was_vivecs_36_lessons_inspired_by/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/6dkx81/to_what_extent_is_aleister_crowley_an_influence/ So yes, maybe Kirkbride was evocating something. >Michael Kirkbride all thanks to him https://en.uesp.net/wiki/General:Michael_Kirkbride still publishes things on https://www.imperial-library.info/ https://www.imperial-library.info/content/michael-kirkbride-reddit-ama https://www.newwhirlingschool.com/intro.php http://www.newwhirlingschool.com/essays/whatislove.php

>>17743 >>17971 See?, Chim. >Also Thanks very much to Erisian Popes.

>>18044 Actually, recording your dreams in a diary or a voice recorder makes a world of difference. Whoever wrote that not about diaries being for faggot teenagers should not be giving advice to anyone.

>>18093 Yeah, i agree, even a brief recall with some essential keywords make a world of difference imo. I used to have an app in handy on my phone for this, in fact apparently it was so useful that some user on reddit started to experience some bizarre overlap between his dreams and the waking world. It was an interesting post, i'll see if i find it.

>>18093 I also know the guy who's compiling those and while i see where he comes from, he can be a hard ass geezer when it comes to things like this. I have the RAW with me, i'll edit it, and post a more constructive disclaimer. I would have done it before posting it, but i was tired as hell last night lol

NEW: DREAM RESOURCES (less misleading this time) >Dream Views Manual https://rentry.org/ddpvoxnt >PDF Document Format https://files.catbox.moe/jetyvu.pdf

NEW UPDATE! >TriumphantGeorge Compendium (v.1.4.2) https://rentry.org/ymf48hvk >PDF Document Format https://files.catbox.moe/rcoc0j.pdf >Editable Pre-Formated Text for Rentry https://files.catbox.moe/2f56gv.txt

NEW RESOURCE! >Universal Line Students Notes https://rentry.org/y9i74sp7 >PDF Document Format https://files.catbox.moe/l46zj2.pdf

NEW UPDATE! >TriumphantGeorge Compendium (v.1.5) https://rentry.org/ymf48hvk >PDF Document Format https://files.catbox.moe/ealnv7.pdf >Editable Pre-Formated Text for Rentry https://files.catbox.moe/uq3937.txt Fixed some images issues

NEW UPDATE! >TriumphantGeorge Compendium (v.1.5) https://rentry.org/mt3fovnv >PDF Document Format https://files.catbox.moe/ealnv7.pdf >Editable Pre-Formated Text for Rentry https://files.catbox.moe/uq3937.txt Fixed some images issues

NEW UPDATE! >Oneirosophy resources repos pastebin https://pastebin.com/e2mFWeqF Including: >TriumphantGeorge Compendium (v.1.6). Editable RAW for rentry here: https://files.catbox.moe/01pp0r.txt >Downloadable Oneirosophy Archive compressed file with all available materials (Subject to change due to updates)

NEW UPDATE! >Oneirosophy resources pastebin https://pastebin.com/k5dFSHA1 Including: >TriumphantGeorge Compendium (v.1.7). Editable RAW for rentry here: https://files.catbox.moe/t5c6o9.txt >Oneirosophy Archive reuploaded in folder for easier navigation and updates

NEW UPDATE! >Oneirosophy Resources Pastebin (Update #03) https://pastebin.com/1Hn3eS6r Including: >TriumphantGeorge Compendium (v.1.8). Editable RAW for rentry here: https://files.catbox.moe/vmkgbc.txt

>>18500 Some fix, there was an error with the DreamViews manual file. Corrected pastebin here: https://pastebin.com/tGArf88M

Heyo guys, cult anon from 4chan here to remind you folks that anything is possible and that you create your own reality. As of now I have converted 20 IRL people away from the dominant religion in my area which is illegal to apostasy from (Islam) to my spirituality based on internet politics. I have a financial patron with more converts and patrons on the way. I am currently in a foreign country having had me and my mom's trip paid for by the financial patron. My financial patron has also invited me to Japan. Me and my group have done UFO summonings, spriit summonings, healings, manifestations, etc. etc. in group sessions. I perform occult services such as tarot readings, dream interpretations, exorcising ghosts and curses, etc. etc. for donations and the like. Pics related are of my spiritual group's 3rd session, being contacted to get rid of a ghost, an example of how much I'm paid and a haunted forest I'm exploring in the foreign country. You create your own reality and you can do anything, be anything.

>>18513 >spirituality based on internet politics Amazing

>>18513 Good for you. Did you remember to thank Tamamo-no-Mae for this?

>>18513 >As of now I have converted 20 IRL people away from the dominant religion in my area which is illegal to apostasy from (Islam) uh oh, Blood Anon will get mad at you now.

>>18516 At least he didn't try to sell us anything. That's pretty impressive for a 3rd worlder and cult leader.

>>18516 Thanks!/ >>18517 I thank All.

>>18525 >he thanked a fox lol

>>18513 Where can I read your previous posts? Seems like an interesting story.

>>18565 They are scattered around a bunch of 4chan posts. Most notably on the loa threads. Just search cult anon in the 4chan archives and you'll find them.

>>18567 The loa threads have produced some truly legendary shit, like cunny anon.

>>18570 >cunny anon Yeah, whatever that is sounds "legendary" alright

NEW UPDATE! >Oneirosophy Resources Pastebin (Update #04) https://pastebin.com/CE4Ru0HD >TriumphantGeorge Compendium (v.1.9). Editable RAW for rentry here: https://files.catbox.moe/9lt4ag.txt

>>18606 In short, he tried manifesting a teenage lover after he reas loli. Some teenage girls came to his house a few days later wanting to use the pool. Turns out one of them had a crush on him (he used to workout in the back yard and they'd seen him). She started coming back alone, and they ended up dating (in secret). Of course nobody believed him, so eventually he posted a couple of censored pictures of her (nothing lewd). Mods started banning anyone who even mentioned it on /loa/. He became defiant and evaded the bans for a while, explaining how they met in secret to go shopping and stuff, and how she told him she wanted to wait because she was a virgin. Normal teenage relationship stuff (except he was older ofc). Eventually stopped posting altogether. Thing is, it was quite a wholesome story. It really sounded like a real love story. I recommend you search for the posts and read it.

>>18611 *After he read loli

>>18612 The book by Nabokov. Fuck

>>18611 loli sure is a strange motivator for manifesting, but true love always wins I suppose.

NEW UPDATE! >Oneirosophy Resources Pastebin (Update #05) https://pastebin.com/c8ryYZQ3 >TriumphantGeorge Compendium (v.1.10): https://rentry.org/5hmxziyh. Editable RAW for rentry here: https://files.catbox.moe/cmpy0n.txt This update was mainly concerned with correcting some formatting issues, but also adding some essential posts that were left. But this is it, this is the first "Complete" version of the Compendium. >All Relevant Posts >All /r/DimensionalJumping essential Comments >All /r/Oneirosophy essential Comments >All /r/Occult essential Comments >All /r/Psychonaut essential Comments >Almost all /r/Glitch_in_the_matrix essential Comments (This one was a big of a hassle, probably the place with most TG comments overall) >All essential comments from the other communities With this, i hope the current state of the compendium is manageable enough to be able to use it as an study material. Thanks for the waiting and support, cheers!

>>18729 rentry link doesn't work.But great work.

>>18731 >rentry link doesn't work Ah shit. A dot just got in the way there. My bad >https://rentry.org/5hmxziyh There you go bud

NEW UPDATE! >Oneirosophy Resources Pastebin (Update #06) https://pastebin.com/2LD6zGuy >TriumphantGeorge Compendium (v.1.11) [https://rentry.org/zrzsg6hx] Editable RAW for Rentry here: https://files.catbox.moe/10fj39.txt Ok, remember when i said that i already got his most relevant posts? Oh man I WAS WRONG. Anyway, i added what was left of note, and A WHOLE lot of good stuff that i missed the last time around. And also corrected more formatting issues. <DISCLAIMER! I'm taking a hiatus now. This will be the last update from my part until who knows when, so now you can feel free to read and/or study it's content without having to twitch your third eye looking forward to when i would shadow drop another one. I mean it, seriously, really, this will be the last one in a very long time from my end. Ok, that's it, bye bye, cheers, and sweet dreams.

>>18782 The fucking tab got in the way! >https://rentry.org/zrzsg6hx There you go...

NEW UPDATE! >The Complete TriumphantGeorge Compendium: https://rentry.org/n98bu2hq >TG Compendium editable RAW for Rentry: https://files.catbox.moe/fckhcy.txt >/one/ - Oneirosophy Resources (Final Update): https://pastebin.com/NZ17CvP0 >But didn't you said tha- Yeah, yeah, let do a revision on that one and forget that i said anything. THE COMPENDIUM IS NOW COMPLETE! No more updates. Nothing else to say. Enjoy, cheers!

>>19084 >Enjoy, cheers!

>>19084 WARNING!! FIX I noticed i fucked up badly in some parts, and spared a moments in the morning to fix them right up. Here's the updated links: >The Complete TriumphantGeorge Compendium: https://rentry.org/uododx43 (Downloadable, here: https://files.catbox.moe/rodbnf.zip) >TG Compendium editable RAW for Rentry: https://files.catbox.moe/c3kl5n.txt >/one/ - Oneirosophy Resources (All links fixed. All mirrors updated): https://pastebin.com/NZ17CvP0 Fixed txt from pastebin here: https://files.catbox.moe/21bc6w.txt

>>19168 Sigh... The ")" got in the way >TGC Downloadable, here: https://files.catbox.moe/rodbnf.zip

>>19173 I will wait a week before I download any of your links lmao

Ok, i had an idea. >TG Compendium (Changelog) https://pastebin.com/7VebQCN7 In case of any further fixing updates to the compendium, i will posts all versions from now on on this separated pastebin, including the editable .txt for Rentry from each change made, starting by the latest "Complete" one. So everything it's available to the community in case i also fuck up for some reason or another. Updates on the available mirrors would follow. Thanks for the patience.

Announcement V3 released with more format fixing. Links updated. Check the changelog for details.

Announcement Someone will take up the project for me, doing some additional revision and proof reading. Changelog and main pastebin will remain active. I'll drop by any news about changes made in the meantime in those.

Announcement V4 released with more format fixing and more content added. Links updated. Check the changelog for details.

Announcement V5 released, more fixes, more content. Links, pastebin and changelog updated.

Announcement V6 Released, with more fixes and added content. The Pastebin (both the /one/ and the changelog) were re-structured.

WARNING!! Rentry glitched on us and various images were not showing up. Already fixed, links and mirrors updated.

Announcement Compressed file of complete Codex submitted. Mirror Links renewed.

Just to clear up all confusions due to the updates, the pastebin link remains the same main one. >/one/ - Oneirosophy Resources (Final Update): https://pastebin.com/NZ17CvP0

Announcement Adjustment were made to the codex regarding a file, mirror links updated. Pastebin revamped to be more informative.

Announcement Mirror links updated to include the following in the Codex: >GT, "You Are That" Universal Line Student Document. Annexed to "Lord Krishna Effulgence Chosen" chat log file.

>>19188 Still waiting for that week of inactivity.

>>19721 lel

>>19721 More than a week passed. Wonder if it is truly the final version or OP simply stopped mentioning every update in this thread.

>>20256 It truly was the final update. The link has remained the same for days now, i checked. It seems OP started to focus on the Telegram channel where they keep sharing more Oneirosophy stuff.

Announcement Telegram Channel Archive for offline reading now available for download. Links added to the main pastebin.

Hello frens, came from /loa/ on cloverchan, I was just wondering if there was a better non retard thread anywhere, and just stumbled upon this board. How are you guys faring, maybe one of you is the /one/ fella I was talking back last thread, I'm not much into /one/ myself, but I'm thinking maybe making a /gateway/ thread, maybe this is a good place.

>>21042 >making a /gateway/ thread, maybe this is a good place. Feel free to do it. If you write a proper OP for the thread it might gain some traction.