>>999999 >>1000000

Can anyone also please do the math on how many HP subs Lucia needs to cap out her buffs?

>>1001053 >This EX Special Attack is a Harmony. When activated, it recreates an Ethereal figure that slashes forward in a line, dealing Ether DMG. When Lucia uses this Harmony, all squad members gain the Darkbreaker state. my understanding from "this Harmony" means only the Harmony from EX specials sadly...

There better be a ton of Lucia fucking a summon ethereal art soon

>>1001070 She'll need AT LEAST one

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>>1001073 I think you're right. I think left is the sheer buff and right is the 20% DMG% buff. From the gameplay I've watched only EX refreshes the left and basically any attack when she's in dream state refreshes the right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhf-XOnMcGY >>1001070 22000 HP to max, 8477 base HP, 1 sheer for every 20 HP over 10000. (((8477 * x) + 2200) - 10000)/20 = 600 x = 2.34~ So you need 15 HP% rolls with 3 HP% discs. 5 with sig. 12 with Yunkui 2pc no sig. Each flat HP roll is a little less than half of a HP% roll.

>>1001115 >15 HP% rolls with 3 HP% discs Damn, that's 3 perfect discs or really fucking good discs and a LOT of rolls into flat HP. Is the HP buff from the Ether veil counted?

>>999082 I don't know about this. On one hand Orphie only deals around 30% of the total team dmg so the numbers look correct, but at the same time they don't. We know that def shred gives an exponential increase the more you have of it, each point is more valuable than the last. Assuming Trigger has her engine, Orphie goes from 55% to 80% def shred with her engine. That should give more than 'just' 5k points. Apel should've tested with Sanby as well honestly, that's who Orphie is meant to be used with due to the aftershock dmg buff she provides, the def shred increase would result in a bigger increase in that team. On top of that, we know that the devs are thinking of, or will, increase enemy def for certain bosses to shill rupture. In that case Orphie's engine becomes far more valuable.

>>1001145 >Is the HP buff from the Ether veil counted? Nyo, before combat only. You don't have to max it though, remember sources of sheer tend to be 25% lower than ATK. 804 sheer (7 HP% substats) from Lucia is equivalent to 1072 ATK for a rupture agent. That's still pretty good.

>>1001174 >You don't have to max it though B-b-b-but NUMBERS

>>1001174 >>1001115 Testing I was able to reach 20068 with disk 6 being energy regen, it is really difficult to reach 22000 even with my disks 1-3 having all Hp% + 2 and several flat hp on all disks and disk 6 having a 9% HP, this all without getting her engine.

Orphies final disk... for now Will grab an energy one too but now I'll be able to use her day 1

I vastly prefer when they make the thresholds really fucking hard, but doable, to reach without sigs. Astra and Lucia do this. Much better than what they do with other characters, where no matter how much you farm you just cannot meet the thresholds without their sig. Yuzuha and Orphie can't max their buffs if you don't have their sig because the stats they need aren't available as substats. I hope hoyo continues with the former and not the latter. They should be selling you a convenience to make it easier to max out a character's kit, not outright locking parts of it behind their weapon.

>>1000950 It's Shiyu. Ether and or Rupture buffs means there's a free Shishou side. Ice weakness means there's a free Miyabi side, unless new enemies resist Anomaly. The chance this becomes a problem is minimal.

>>1001201 they'll continue to toss a coin and see if the newest agent does it one way or another

>>1001201 finally someone who complains about that too. It comes a bit too close to hi3 for my taste

>>1001200 Uhh, isn't ATK% just strictly worse than ER since ER converts into ATK on top of just getting more EX specials?

>>1001201 >If we make the signatures a lot better, more people will pull for them!

>>1001201 they should remove

>>1001201 Anything as long as they never implement anything like the retarded passives from HSR that are just an on-off switch between not doing anything and giving you a ton of stats if you hit a hard to hit threshold. The closest is the 50% CR requirement on KotS but it's trivially easy to hit

>>1001201 it's just numbers isn't it? mindscapes should make you seethe too in that case

>>1001263 in the end its just numbers but from the discussions i see here, not hitting these stat cap thresholds for support characters make people very bothered there is more layers, but a DPS without a sig will always hit less than if it had the sig, so by analogy a supportive character should support less sig-less however, since there IS a cap, people are very driven to hit it i wonder if the buffs were AS THEY ARE, but with no explicit "the cap is X" written, people would complain the same

>>1001201 I just see Yuzuha and Orphie's case as >Signature w-engine makes agent stronger Which is the case for every agent, only difference is that their Yuzuha and Orphie's w-engine makes them stronger by buffing their passive rather than just an individual buff applied by the w-engine.

>>1001263 Given the Alice image, I assumed it's just OCD. It's not like not hitting the cap makes a big difference.

>>1001201 Well, we also had cases like Trigger, where the engine is basically a part of the kit, separate from it, that was placed in the engine.

>>1000843 MAYBE Caesar. And Jane. Maybe

>>1000843 Grace and Kot

do NOT release your agents back into the nearby wilderness, they're going to out-compete the local agent fauna and cause problems in the eco system

Any mono-ice chads ITT? Why does Miyabi sometimes BA 1 before shimotsuki and sometimes she doesn't? The former is fucking up my freeze in stun.

>>1001319 hold your basic before you finish the animation for whatever you're doing before doing shimotsuki

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I don't have a single adventure boo with 4 skills. Do they just not exist or am I just incredibly unlucky? This shit ain't perfectly symmetrical....

>>1001349 they exist but yeah it seems much rarer than crafters i have 3 of each crafter with 4 traits i have only one exploration 4 trait boo