I ID kisses me passionately on the lips tongue and everything while hugging me tight

ZZZ...

My ID told Corin she's a useless and dumb maid.

Since Magus's mind is a bit unstable from what we know thanks to time, I guess theres some possibility Orphie and Magus are gonna endure a repeat of Seed and Flora in the future?

Incest is pure love btw

My ID will help me raping Chinatsu.

Plant the Seed

>>1051117 I too love Pakistan

>>1051117 Why do I keep getting Ju Fufu ids? This is like the fifth time out of seven now.

>>1051123 Billy would never say that, faker.

ZHAO

my id rapes all of you

>>1051122 GET AWAY FROM HER AIZEN

>>1051124 time to admit that fufu is better

>>1051124 brick ID according to monkey anon

>>1051116 Sneed ripped out his logic core while Magus is still intact, so she's probably okay for now

>>1051129 Who says a fake can't surpass the original?

>>1051103 You do swap her in for raw EX - it's optimal in all her teams. Auto-EX is generally worse than the on-field EX because the former replaces her off-field special and the latter doesn't (so less time between big lasers, more Decibels and Anomaly buildup, and some "free" EX damage). As long as you don't mess up the rest of your rotation to do it, all your swaps should probably have an Orphie EX press between them.

im sorry......

>>1051114 My favorite Zenless Zone Zero activity.

My ID would get a tapered fade with cornrows

>>1051139 Nothing good has ever come from pakistan or india. Therefore the fake is already worse than the original.

>>1051116 >Orphie and Magus are gonna endure a repeat of Seed and Flora in the future Which one dies and which one becomes ugly and retarded?

>>1051121 My seed in Seed.

My id is who i will jerk off to tonight and I will require sexy photos of them

>>1051152 This guy loves HAGS

The creator of boos…

>>1051136 He actually ripped out the auto-defense system, it would be harmless for a normal IC, but since he was made under the NEDF's IC program, he has something called Iron Order, that damages the Logic Core once an NEDF IC disobey orders

Zhao ID

>>1051136 Magus doesn't appear to have the iron order, which is weird considering she's much more likely than a robot to attack a human. But it's probably because she's part of an experiment.

>>1051112 Yes, Lighter buffs Orphie more but Lighter only buffs Orphie. Trigger buffs both Orphie and Qingyi. Also Orphie buffs Trigger but Lighter doesn't. Trigger does something while you're on-fielding Qingyi, unlike Lighter.

Give me any id, I don’t even care

>>1051156 Close enough

goat in 11 days

>>1051122 This bitch and her fat tits steal the show in every scene they're in.

We need more Yid art

>>1051159 marvelous id

>>1051162 +1

>>1051149 I am the skewer in my kebab Shawarma is my body, Dung is my blood I have fucked over a thousand first cousins. Unknown to death nor known to life Have withstood stench to pound brown incest pussy Yet these hands will never cradle anything So, as I pray Unlimited Pakistani Works!

>>1051167 I cannot disagree

>>1051162 >11

>>1051157 It's probably because Magus was originally just going to have Orphie's body before Orphie accidentally gained sentience >THIS is what Magus looked like as a child

Delicious.

>>1051157 Or because she's so small anyway, the iron order cannot be fit into her... I kind of wonder if theres a justification why Magus didnt get an entire intelligent construct body.

Dialyn EP leaked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAic

>>1051184 Is this real?

>>1051171 STOP RAINING POO FROM THE SKY

Zenest Zonest Zeroest

I plan on skipping goat and octopus and just saving for the future. Surely Angels will come after Krampus, right?

>>1051158 i mean, the idea is to maximize orphie's damage without resorting to kneeling to astra even if i were to focus on optimizing qingyi's damage output, the point is a team to use orphie that can feature qingyi, not a dps qingyi team.

There should be a laughing Nicole ID

>>1051191 There's a good chance they might be a New Years patch like Astra did

>>1051178 >I kind of wonder if theres a justification why Magus didnt get an entire intelligent construct body Perhaps. https://youtu.be/buGfCjPLaZc?t=104 Another interesting thing about that video is that Orphie seems to have an accelerated perception, but not the experience to follow through. But it might be the reason she can play hacky sack with her combat knife without hurting herself.

>>1051185 Nyes

I was forced to marry a psychopath when I was 19 thanks my family's "church". I got divorced at 25, abandoned my family and now live alone playing video games and hating anything that reminds me of my ex-wife.

this purple thing is a psychopath

I'm gonna Zen ur zone!

>>1051168 fixed version test

hey

>>1051199 Man, this Meeb lore is tuff

>>1051205 Why did I click this?

>>1051202 purple, want

>>1051203 FUCK YOU

>>1051193 Qingyi's damage is very significant when you're planning on on-fielding her 98% of the fight. My guesstimation would be 30%/10%/60% total team damage distribution between Qingyi/Trigger/Orphie I'd run Orphie/Lighter/Astra against Fire weak and QIngyi/Trigger/Orphie against Electric weak. Dunno about neutral, but at very least Trigger makes way more sense and is way more of an organic fit there than Lighter is.

>>1051204 nice

corn doesnt flip people off....

>>1051211 Has Victoria Housekeeping done anything in a main story in a while?

uoh yutane id post yutane sex pls

>>1051218 >>1051219

>>1051213 >I'd run Orphie/Lighter/Astra against Fire weak and QIngyi/Trigger/Orphie against Electric weak. i think this is the natural and obvious choice. i'm probably never going to know since i genuinely have to resist pulling orphie for now. i'm already 30 pulls deep and i ultimately don't want her enough to go all in and be stuck just running meme teams until they add an aftershock dps i actually like. she is very cute though.

>>1051217 erm... fuck you

>>1051218 >>1051219 >>1051222 >>1051223 >>1051224 >>1051225 >>1051226 >>1051230 She wouldn't do this.

My ID pays for my house, utilities, hobbies, and groceries. All I have to do is give her love and sex.

>>1051232 YOU FOOOLLLLLLL YOU STARTED IT AGAIN AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>1051234 probably canon unironically

Whoring out my id to shotas

>>1051246 hot

>>1051246 hot

i Wanted asha

>>1051108 The Bibian Agenda already being forced

>>1051254 only organic posts here for the next 33 days at least

Wow this sure is a fast thread! Surely there is new leaks facilitating discussion!

>>1051229 She's very versatile and works with pretty much all on-field DPS agents (even Yixuan). Her technically being an Attacker also means she enables a bunch of AAs that wouldn't normally work - Qingyi being one of the examples. She's also very fun to actually play with a hypercarry agent - she adds just enough depth to the rotation to feel good but takes little to no actual field time away from the said hypercarry. I like her a lot.

>>1051261 uuuuOOOOHHHH IM GONNA HAVE DISCUSSION OOOOOOOOOOHHH

>>1051258 yeah some leaks here

>>1051259 my plan was to just run ellen/lighter/orphie if i got lucky on pity building but now i'm just going to wait until the end of the banner and see if we get lucky on drip + beta timing. if banuye gets confirmed fire/rupture i might go to 50/50 at least since that'd be another possible team for her. i want too many characters now to fuck around on a character i probably won't even use that often though. gotta somehow swing zhao, dialyn, banyue, and all 3 idols without going broke. probably sigs on the idols too, at minimum. might even want to get fufu's rerun depending on how good she is for banyue. thank god lucia and yidhari are the easiest fucking skips in the whole game, at least

>>1051261 I hope they make Dialyn's sound effects really good

OUGHHH I'M GONNA DISCOOOS I AM DISCOOOOOOOOSING

My id gives me the super succ

>>1051275 is it the best idea to put your pp in there....?

>>1051275 EXTREMELY on-character

I'm getting drained dry of my protein reserves...

>>1051275 she's hungry!!

My id biting their way to the center of a jaw breaker

>>1051275 she would suck up your whole body with one suck

>>1051261 we need to talk about zhao twitching her ears at 11 seconds btw

>>1051273 The part 5 anime was so fucking good. My favorite Jojo adaptation by a long shot.

Sokaku was actually the first ZZZ girl I fapped to before even knowing what game she was from.

Sloppy kissing with lots of groping and sweating into wholesome cowgirl sex with my ID

>>1051288 Bro...

>>1051264 ok. *ding ding ding ding ding* EVERYONE, TALK ABOUT THE GOAT!!! *ding ding ding ding ding*

>>1051288 you dipshits really gamble way too hard with these ID posts

>>1051288 Maybe next thread champ

NO, I'M NOT SH*NE D*WSON NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>1051295 Shone Dewson? Who's that

>>1051291 no one has made new art that is sexy since the design got changed, will have to use the other blue thing for now

Is Sokaku's butthole pink or blue?

My ID is the next character who will be turned into a sentient tail gun just like magus. How effective do you think they will be?

>>1051282 We need to talk about Zhao twitching her ears at 11 seconds btw

>>1051291 why did they ruin her design

>>1050991 Don't care about her being meta. I finally got a swaxe agent, I wanna see one big fat meaty number every time she attacks. Axe form has high daze values and sword form has high damage values, final offer. W-engine has main stat crit and unconditional passive CDMG (to share with Qingyi), her set is a general dps set for on-fielders (so I can finally burn woodpecker/HP). This is the only way Dawei avoids another bunnysuit incident.

Sometimes, I wanna fuck Chinatsu and spend all night cuddling with her. Other times, I wanna do so with Rokudo. Then, there are some days of the week where all I desire to do, is to plap Yutanes little robotic ass. Thats the beauty of male sexual nature; polygamy. I love all my girls, and I love each one for different reasons.

>>1051302 Purple

How many of you play with mods? If so? What kind?

>>1051302 Darker shade of blue. Her nipples are lighter OR darker.

>>1051309 >idol ritualpost >jff image

>>1051309 Your idols look weird bro

>>1051305 Zhao is very cute

post zhao feet pics if anyone has them please

>>1051309 chinatsu...

>>1051321 Sure >>1051319 She is very cute yes.

>>1051308 "i need to see big number" doesn't really make sense to me either honestly. i understand the dopamine of seeing fat damage values but it's a team game. damage contributions aren't measured by just raw damage output and IMO it matters more if the character is satisfying to play rather than if they're actively contributing the most DPS. some characters are satisfying because they do big numbers (hugo, miyabi, etc) but there are plenty that still are fun that don't (qingyi, lighter, trigger). even if you don't give a fuck about her being meta i think you should just care if she plays well since there are plenty of characters that put up big damage that feel like garbage to play (seed, imo). it doesn't matter to me either way i'm rolling for the bunny cunny even if she's astra tier off-field

>>1051326 >>1051327 exemplary stuff thank you gentlemen!!!!

Why are you guys making me find zhao sexually attractive she is a fur blob

>>1051326 There's something about this dumb rabbit that is so fucking erotic. I don't fucking understand why I don't usually like furry shit OR feet. But that 2nd image especially is so fucking good + the expression. That fucking face is so good BUT I DIDNT LIKE ANY OF THESE THINGS BEFORE WHAT HAS SHE DONE TO ME

>>1051333 fur blobs are sexy

there are multiple agendas happening

>>1051333 You don't think she looks insanely soft and pleasantly warm?

>>1051337 zhaocord is monitoring

>>1051329 >it doesn't matter to me either way i'm rolling for the bunny cunny even if she's astra tier off-field Same, the only agent so far that is an instant pull with her engine regardless of however she comes out i just really like her. I have preferences but she's getting rolled no matter what.

>>1051329 >damage contributions aren't measured by just raw damage output Yeah I know, I like other classes and I don't mind my favorites not being DPS. But Zhao specifically with her small frame and big weapon just HAS to to have slow, heavy attacks. She just HAS to use her entire body weight when swinging her weapon around. She HAS to put a big number on the screen. Every attack HAS to have the weight of a Piper slam. It would be fucked up and weird for her to do anything but this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl1sHx_0WII

>>1051333 She is a sexy bunny

>>1051334 This is how it starts. Next thing you know you become this.

>>1051333 You're getting mental degradation

Woah haha, my Vivian Banshee pic just slipped Oh shit it landed on the printer and now it’s making copies How could have this even happen

>>1051329 Although I'd prefer if she was the main dps, I'll still pull her + her ball regardless of her role

>>1051344 >2nd pic I want to invade bibian crotch

What if they changed Zhao's design like what they did with Lucia

Zhao should've had the same VA as Nanachi.

>>1051356 I am immune. Roll bunny at all costs.

>>1051356 why would you change this

>>1051362 Because you’re gay

>>1051356 technically they did they nuked the pawpads on her hands from the trailer

>>1051356 depends on what they changed if they gave her tits it would be a W for me since i already have a severe oppai loli fetish. if they ruined something else about her (making her taller?) it might be a dealbreaker. the dealbreaker for me on lucia was the ears. changing her chest and ruining her hips are one thing, but those are relatively minor compared to removing what was genuinely the most charming thing about the design. i hope the chinks who asked for that get re-educated in some slave camp, seriously.

>>1051356 As long as they don't do a Sigewinne it's all good.

>>1051355 why do you have to invade? bibian extends you an OPEN invitation with her new skin (cheap price of 180 rolls)

>>1051355 who doesnt >>1051351 i am suffering from the same! where can i call tech support?

Bitches will look at komano and think that's a dad bod

>>1051372 "Dad bod" is a psyop. Women aren't, and have never been, attracted to it, but if they can convince a few that they are, then that means they can trick them into doing more.

>>1051365 well, technically bunnies doesn't have pawpads

>>1051356 As long as they don't make her taller or remove any of her furry features, it's fine. Her design is genuinely top 3 across all Hoyo games so I don't really see them changing it

>>1051356 I fear I'd still be rolling.

>>1051356 How could you even change her design outside of minor tweaks to the outfit. >>1051375 >>1051372 Dadbod is code for "male body that seems attainable to me in a relationship as a woman" My ex pointed at Henry Cavill and said that was a "dad bod", go ahead, ask your girl what kinda body is a "dad bod" or "reasonably muscular" they will pick roiders every time.

>>1051379 I like oppai loli so if anything this would cement my decision to roll for Zhao even more

What if zhao’s bis team is seth/harumasa

>>1051380 The devs could equip tactical mini melons to Zhao.

What if Zhao vores Damian

>>1051312 To this day, no one has been able to give me even one good reason not to mod.

>>1051385 i would be interested to see what kind of character kit could possibly make those 2 synergistic with each other, let alone the third slot, so i wouldn't care

Holy fuck pinKing easy mode had me panic pressing

I'm starting to feel Zh*o fatigue

Killing all furniggers with my ID

>>1051312 I've used some. Eventually I got bored and went back to just the vanilla game though. Mostly just liked having Nicole's CBT version.

>>1051410 The B in Bibian is for based...

>>1051414 vased

Which disc sets are we expecting Yidhari to use? Probably 4 piece Yunkai, 2 piece Woodpecker?

>>1051393 That just sounds like premium Grace.

>>1051391 if your taste is already bad enough to install copy-paste nude mods and other similar slop then it makes sense that no one would be able to convince you better

>>1051420 Don't care, Seed booty. Also, this.

It kinda feels like supports (including stunners) in this game are kind of, uh, a lot more valuable than DPSes, unless we're talking about Void Hunters. Does this also happen in other Mihoyo games? Might just be me though.

>>1051415 Nooooo lord phaethon dont turn me into a vase

Total Thigger Death

>>1051417 you would never use seth in that team though. rina or yuzuha would be better by default. it's basically impossible for seth to be BiS for anyone at this point unless they literally just write "does 4000% more dmg if seth is on the team" in their core passive. his kit is too old and limited. if they somehow did that for zhao that would be funny as fuck and i still wouldn't build seth anyway.

Total thiren domination.

>>1051423 HSR supports stick around far longer than DPS do and get passed around several different teams.

>>1051410 Vivian take that back or I'm not pulling for your swimsuit

>>1051423 supports are consistently the strongest and longest lasting meta units in every mihoyo game. DPS can just get replaced by a guy with bigger numbers but the supports generally have more specific utility and synergies that are a lot harder to powercreep or replace, so they stick around. it's literally why everyone says to NEVER skip limited supports, they are just that good.

>>1051423 That was my experience with HSR. The supports and sustains were more valuable and long-lasting than any DPS. I never played Genshin enough to know if it's the same there.

>>1051427 Someone would have to make a Damian mod for Seth

post your Orphie

>>1051422 HOLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>1051423 Numbers will creep over time because Hoyo will always need to sell the next DPS as the next big thing. A support, however, is a lot harder to creep, especially if they provide a unique buff or utility. I hear Fofo over in HSR is considered the best support in the game currently because she cranks so many of the new DPS to absurd levels despite being older than most.

We need an agent like Bill from king of the hill

>>1051445 Ehhh I feel like right now the "problem" (not really a problem) is that unit powercreep so far is actually very limited. A lot of pretty much just sidegrades since mibibi really.

>>1051452 This is so fucked up…. vivi got vased….

Hoyo, for the love of all that is good, if you're not gonna bring TV's back, at the very least bring back Tales from the Lost Capital. I loved this shit. So much neat lore and worldbuilding hidden in H0 runs that you don't get in new H0...

>>1051456 True

>>1051432 Swimsuits are temporary, thigger genocide is forever

The Zhaozuzu agenda...

>>1051452 Vased, vo vcking vased.

>>1051453 direct powercreep won't happen because they can easily shill characters via buff or shit like miasma. numbers wise Miyabi will probably stay at the top together with agents that are as powerful as her in lore but they will make sure to kneecap them one way or another

>>1051416 Yes. Get like me lil bwo.

>>1051456 Real. I love story and world building audio recordings left for me to find in my video games. Especially when there are multiple and I need to find them all to complete the story.

>>1051468 ehh i feel like it's premature to say that. would not be surprised if shungite raises the upper celling for dps numbers and it stays at that for a year, then repeat with next void hunter

>>1051471 Nevermind don't get like me, run crit chance 4 unless you're getting her sig. I was banking on Lucia running game ball, but I just realized >wandering hunter with no ether weakness >priest with double ice resist >nu-butcher anomaly shilling Would need complex or marionettes to run game ball Lucia with Yidhari.

a constant in the gachaverse is they want you to roll for new characters they can either make you like the character or they can make them powerful or they can make endgame require 4-6 teams you can never escape the fomo machine until you decide that the extra 1 roll from clearing endgame isn't worth it and accept in your heart to roll for who you like instead

>>1051491 But sometimes I like the meta women for non meta reasons

Roll for who you HATE

I think it's still possible Yebibi just ends up around Miyabi level but for her own niche like Yixuan rather than simply blowing everybody else out of the water.

>>1051439 I'm still 39 rolls away from guarantee so have this instead

>>1051456 I agree. I feel like they overcorrected when they decided to get rid of the TVs. They weren't that bad and some areas missions had some genuinely cool gimmicks that you don't see anymore. I fully believe 1.0 Hollow Zero was the best incarnation of the game mode, stuff like secret rooms and hidden audios made every run feel a little unique, but sadly I don't feel the same way in the new HZ.

>>1051499 im still 40 away from a 5050 fuck my stupid chud life

>>1051439 60 away from ball...

1 Yiddy ID please >>1051471 My current Yiddy build. Surely I'll get something better before she releases

>>1051503 do you have any content left to grind or are you stuck with weekly endgame resets?

>>1051515 I actually have an overwhelming amount of content left, but Uni just started again as well

>>1051439 It's bad

I've got half of season 1 (chapter 4 onward) + all of season 2. I'm 60 rolls away from guaranteed Orphie, and I'm buying the pass when mine runs out in two days. I'll probably make it, but her engine's likely out since I want Vivian.

>>1051521 just fuck your dad

>>1051517 Well you've got just under two weeks to find some time, hopefully she comes home early for you

>>1051315 >>1051316 >>1051320 >>1051323 this little thread, this little space, is dedicated to fufu (11)

>>1051522 STOP TALKING ABOUT ANONS DADS

>>1051523 32 away from 50/50 and my luck has been TANKING recently its over

>>1051527 no

>>1051521 >I want Vivian

>>1051528 It's never truly over until you give up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME2f-Lro-f4 being forced to nut inside orphie at gunpoint

>>1051534 She pretty. Her, Astra Yao, and Zhu Yuan are all on my list. I also want Chinatsu.

>>1051536 I also want Yid's yiddies...

>>1051541 you probably should play 1.6 and 1.7 whenever possible before pulling vivian's participation on the story is pretty much a "love it or hate it" situation

I saw some people talking about how AP Miyabi is better? Is that true? Do I need to switch her Disc 4 to AP?

>>1051555 no

>>1051540 Will magus also feel it?

>>1051555 how are you gonna get the CR?

>>1051544 Then keep farming and dumping rolls on orphie, you win and start banking, you lose and start building pity towards a guarantee for yidhari if Orphie doesn't come early. Gacha is gacha, but you have a shot, so take it.

>>1051555 there are some very specific comps and fights where AP miyabi can perform better than the usual, the same applies to using AM in disk 6 if you don't want to autistically optimize each fight and comp dont bother with anal stats miyabi

>>1051558 >magus moaning in her gun voice, in unison with orphie Strange, but acceptable boner

Biyabibi has no ass why would you build her for anal

>>1051558 yes, you have to repair your roof every week cause nutting makes her "discharge" as well

>>1051570 you may have not realized, but miyabi has the LARGEST BASE ANAL PROFICIENCY BY FAR she has a modest butt, but is very educated on its use

>>1051559 I currently hit 80% thanks to sig and good substat rolls. I was in fact using a Atk% 4 disc because I already hit the CR req

>>1051576 wait a sec i looked for a pic in my folder to post and it turns out it was the same exact one lol im retarded it must be the burnice ID

Magus and my ID will swap bodies

>>1051518 no ER disc6?

>>1051580 HOLY

It's nothing https://x.com/ZZZ_EN/status/1973961493956997130

>>1051565 Very welcome boner indeed. I like it.

>>1051590 Attack is kinda nice. Also my ER D6 was shit

>>1051561 yeah ill catch up on the story this weekend maybe im still in 1.4 and 2.1

>>1051312 I mod the censorship off of most girls, give them real panties, etc.

thank you hazeker

it's too quiet in here someone start a [Melty]

>>1051627 hair or beard?

This new sora 2 ai shit is scary bros. I hope all media doesn’t just turn into sloppa

>>1051627 does it need to be an organic melty or can it be manufactured?

>>1051626 Boring

>>1051627 My favorite character sold more than your favorite character

>>1051626 >boring hack that copy pastes the most basic fucking coomer bodies on everyone with high heels No thanks

>>1051633 Corin wouldn't say this

>>1051632 >>1051635

>>1051626 Orphie looks so sexy in yellow. Whoever gave her yellow heels deserves a nobel peace prize.

>>1051632 its the only good orpheus mod so far, for some reason seed and orpheus arent getting any

>>1051527 Banyue and Pan are daddies

>>1051645 sorry i lied i forgot about THIS

All mods are STUPID and INFERIOR to the original model!

>>1051655 Wrong

Fucking inflationist should stop pasting your disgusting fat ridden fetish onto perfectly fine body model

>>1051661 FIRST HP INFLATION NOW MODEL INFLATION WHEN WILL IT STOP?

>>1051659 that is probably the logical size but boobyabi looks WAY better

>>1051635 >make her clunkers even CLUNKIER

>>1051659 Ok that one is only good because it SHOULD have been the base model

>>1051666 Pity inflation

>>1051627 It's okay to have a tangent conversation here. You don't have to tack on "Zenless Zone Zero" at the end of an off topic post. Finish your discussion briefly and move on.

Who is the "her" manato is trying to save, is it yiddy

>>1051659 I still yearn for the Bibi of yore... Perhaps a mod exists that would allow me to restore her to her original wideness...

>>1051679 I thought that was Aizen talking about Shungy

>>1051685 I don't know what he sounds like in english but the voice here sounds too deep to be him to me

no one has ever posted a mod that made me consider it >>1051659 should've made her wideyabi too

>>1051687 Wise Harumasa is a close one