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/lcg/ - Limbus Company General #12 Anonymous Id: ffd368 No. 1231558
Previous thread: >>982012 Season 6 - 葬花吟 [Zàng Huā Yín] 2025.05.15 — Mirror Dungeon #6 - Mirror of Immortality 2025.07.03 — Refraction Railway Line 5 - Merry Go Round 2025.02.20 — >Upcoming Events 2025.11.18 : Project Moon Anniversary 2025.??.?? : Refraction Railway - Line 1 Bokgak 2025.12.?? : Season 7 - The Unservering >Current Events 2025.11.06 — 2025.11.20 The 7th Walpurgisnacht - A Certain Library's General Invitation 2025.10.23 — 2025.11.20 Chapter 6.5 Murder on the WARP Express BokGak >FAQs ! This game is directly tied to the setting of Project Moon's previous games, Lobotomy Corporation and Library of Ruina, and is set after both. Expect spoilers for those games in this thread. ! The tutorial is important. >Download links AppStore: https://apps.apple.com/app/limbus-company/id6444112366 Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ProjectMoon.LimbusCompany Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1973530/Limbus_Company/ >Other links Official twitter: https://twitter.com/limbuscompany_b Official youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectMoonOfficial Official site: https://limbuscompany.global >Required reading https://spam.com/xosDkZ5Z#Wt4JpUt5Bb2XG77pxuuXpw >For all your EGO and Sinner info needs https://limbus.kusoge.xyz/ https://gll-fun.com/en/ >Useful resources and a general guide https://rentry.org/lcg_resources
[Expand Post]https://rentry.org/lcbguide https://rentry.org/LCB_optimal_grind_guide https://lcb-days-since-last-id.carrd.co/ https://lcb-days-since-last-ego.carrd.co/ >Countdown https://lcbcountdown.carrd.co/
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for me, it's rodion raskolnikov
>>1231558 FYI you can attach multiple images to OP
>>1231571 No way?!?! Bruh, I know, I don't want to overload the OP.
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New thread new id pull
>>1231584 May as well add variety when the bread's bound to be up for weeks.
>>1231642 We are the filling, the bread is the bread. you won't be focused on the OP for weeks.
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These IDs suck Where are the abnos
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>>1231670 At least Chicken Heath will have kino voice acting. But I can't wait for the limbillion coins and negative rupture count. Oh and of course the content drought.
>>1231676 Trust in the canto plan Just 2 more weeks... OP is a bit weird... I don't recognize this character at all. Did the ID makers add someone from another game by mistake?
>>1231893 Yes, it's a secret character from the game Limbus Company.
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>>1231912 Surely you jest. I would have encountered such a character at some point in the last 3 years. Listen to your schizo half and go eat a whole jar of marmite to cool yourself off.
ID get I redid my refraction railway again with the Heishous. My score went from 68 to 46 and I now understand how to use Faust properly. >>1231374 Repeat heishous are making them less interesting.
Don't act like you're surprised we're getting a full 11 (10? Ish might not get one) Heishou before the start of Ryoshu's canto We all saw "Leash holder of all Heishou (Max stack: 11)" All memes aside it effectively stacks to 9, there should be at least one more after Heath Guessing the next one is gonna be Meursault.
>>1231985 I'll shall allow myself to become completely delusion and believe that we will her two double 000*including heathcliff** banners that will fill in the remaining slots
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>>1231912 >>1231933 TWO CATHYS?
>>1231587 >Red Xichun Perfect pull. >>1231676 I'm expecting it to be a clone of Sinclair's kit. Maybe worse because lmao not an event ID. >>1231985 Wu Meursault or Rooster Adept Don. Maybe Wu Don. My guess is if Heath is a normal Rooster they'll give us Snake and Rooster Adept and leave any fun IDs >Xue Pan/Shi Bolus guy >Lin Daiyu >Night Drifter For the event reruns.
>>1231563 But Jia Qiu, I'm rodion.
>>1231670 Make your own faggy, the tutorial is in the rentry. It has a .html tool for drag-and-dropping IDs to assign them to colour groups or randoms with no groups. Script batches for mass conversion into 20x20 size icons are at the bottom https://rentry.org/character-id I don't have time to sit here and add 100 new IDs even if I wanted to with my employed ass, I only did the bare-bones. If anyone does it you can put it in /meta/ and we will upload it like for other generals.
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>>1232186 Very well.
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So the next content is only when we get Ryoshu's canto since RR1 bokbak will be the exact same railway we did before.
>>1231985 Don’t forget the foreshadowing of Heishou stronger than the Adepts. We’ll probably see them along with whatever secret special forces the other Wings have hidden when the War of the Wings that’s been foreshadowed for a while erupts.
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Time for a new ID. >>1231558 Good image for the new thread, thanks ■■■■■. >>1231223 I'm glad you like it, anon.
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>>1232297 >Ish ID I just can't stop winning.
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Anyone want to do a bingo for the Canto? List what you want to see, what you dread, or something that will probably be there. Nothing is final and I ran out of Ideas. Did anyone else have to water that tree 30 times? >>1232214 Are you talking about the Heishou Xiaren? Aren't they just the manager's/IP holders of the heishou strains.
>>1232364 The Heishou-Xianren are the ones who mentioned not unleashing the Heishou above the Adepts. > I would have loved nothing more than to borrow the true strength of each Branch as well, alas… they were adamant that such forces cannot be deployed unless the need was to battle forces foreign to this land. Forces above the Adepts are still being held back.
>>1231985 >Don't act like you're surprised we're getting a full 11 (10? Ish might not get one) Heishou before the start of Ryoshu's canto The optimist in me thought it was just future proofing. But I guess kim ji hoon is actually gonna try and release a full 12 heishou team in 6 months (meanwhile liu doesn't have a 8 man team even after 3 years) >>1232214 Please no I hope i don't see anymore heishou IDs for the next 4 years
>>1232535 So what you're saying is that all we have are high grade shitters. >>1232542 >imagine thinking he's not gonna pump like 40 more of these when he barely used a third of the chinese zodiac yet
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>>1232563 He should've released one ID per each branch this season. And most of them should've been adept. The fact that we got 90% nameless mook heishou who are also repeats is unjustifiable. Nobody will even care about heishou once they stop being the flavor of the month and canto 9 rolls around
Each sinner will have a Heishou id of each branch in 5 years, 3 of them will be adepts and 1 of them will be a Heishou-Xianren. That's the future of Limbus Company. Glory to H Corp.
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tyim tyuu dyuu yuur daiwies, wimbyabs!!!! yayyy!!! nyew dwyeed!!!!! nyehehe~
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>>1232903 Based. Can't wait for my dragon lord lu so he can be the direct upgrade of Lord lu.
>>1232611 >He should've released one ID per each branch this season. Wholeheartedly agree You cannot imagine the disappointment I felt when I realized the H-Corp team was gonna be full of Heishou dupes >>1233032 based kys poster
>>1232611 B-b-but muh powerscaling We can't be giving you these good units yet since we still have at least 10 years of limblo to go through Now make way for snake don and hare meurs and be glad to have more benchwarmers to go through
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>>1233907 Kim ji hoon's powerscaling excuse is funny >sorry we can't release a ricardo ID until canto 9 because he's too strong >you just got your ass beat by Lei heng? Alright time to release his ID
>>1233954 You don't understand, Ricardo had 20 levels on us! >Nicolina/Curiambro also had 20 levels on us But they were weakened! >Zilu/Wei also had 20 levels on us >Lei Heng had 27 levels on us >Sancho and Dulcinea had 35 (now 30) levels on us >Jia Qiu also has 35 levels on us if you count Lord Hong Anyway, Ricardo (as per Director's autism) is now too weak to get as an ID, but you will receive a Season 0 Big Sister Rodion ID (it sucks). Happy?
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>>1234056 The ricardo ID will be funny. Because depending on how much they powercreep because of the levelcap increase. He might be as strong/stronger than the Lei heng ID Anyways YES! I want ricardo rodya Or just middle big sister rodya in general
>>1233032 >>1233480 素晴らしい
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I wake up much earlier and suddenly I have a theory that comes out of nowhere. I wonder if Outis' wristwatch might be a seal like Rocinante, since it's the only recurring element like Rocinante for Outis in her IDs and base EGO while others don't have that.
>>1234769 I don't think it's a seal. More like a symbol that outis's hasn't finished her odyssey yet (whatever it may be in limbus) But who knows...director will just pull out something last minute like rocinante being a seal
>>1234641 Also im curious if they'll use this stream to tease canto 9 and Ryoshu's BP ego I'm 90% sure of it
>>1234769 I feel like it’s more symbolic, given that it’s specifically a watch that has stopped ticking. It’s also got the symbol of a the Trojan Horse. Given her apparent worries about how many people she’s caused to die in her past, maybe the clock stopped at the time she arranged for some great tragedy that happened and she’s keeping it around to never forget what she did.
>>1235110 A Trojan horse is a bit like a seal, something that hides something else. The fact that the symbol is on the wristwatch clearly demonstrates that it conceals something within itself.
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>>1235150 We don't need to raise the stakes by giving every sinner a rocinante that seals their "le epic color level power" like sancho. I feel like doing it once with don Is more than enough
>>1234769 It could contain Outis' memories. It being how she stops being Outis and becomes Odysseus again but in turn draws the wrath of Poseidon. They mentioned you can contain/seal memories in items. >>1235485 Depends on how they do it, Sancho is literally a different person to her pre-memory self and has powers that our human Don didn't. Outis just sealing certain memories that having is a Wing Taboo (and thus she cannot be harmed while she has forgotten/is nobody) would fit in with the story influences of the Odyssey
So what are you guys excited about today? You have anything to look forward to?
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>>1235723 Looking forward to the stream. But I'll just play other games and draw art until then.
I'm trying to prepare a team for Canto 9 built around Aweshu but I'm stumped as to how to balance bleed and tremor members, anyone wanna share your teams? Bonus points for including the new Walpipi IDs, extra bonus points for including Fraud Sang.
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>>1234641 I know the announcement literally says to keep expectations low, but man, I really want my ID Skin system.
>>1234641 It would be super funny if all he did was go online for 2 minutes and went "We're still working on the canto. Thank you very much." and then shut it down. >>1235723 Lunch sound exciting right now,.
>>1235880 The announcement says it won't be a short broadcast, they just don't have anything incredible to show.
>>1235936 So he's gonna announce that they're still working on the canto and then do a bad run of MD. He could at least throw a chair on stream to make it worth watching said stream.
>>1235936 >it won't be a short broadcast >but we have nothing to show So another episode of Director trauma-dumping? My favourite
>>1235955 >he's gonna announce that they're still working on the canto and then do a bad run of MD >>1235956 >Director trauma-dumping Pretty much. Long live our El Director.
>>1235842 If you want to use those IDs; then just use them. There's no incentive to actually use a team that's not just penter when the majority of the fights are non-focused. Bleed status doesn't actually have actually have a team set up and it's all just Sanguine Desire and Contempt, Awe in a trenchcoat. All recently new tremor IDs have had (tremor + status) in their coin power so just go full tremor because it's easier to maintain their bonuses. Yi Sang relies upon poise for coin power while being count positive. The Egos both only use wrath, lust, pride, and envy, so use IDs that match with that. For additional ego resources give Ryoshu two slots and cast Contempt, Awe with Binah so the passive starts immediately. Regarding the Bleed Tremor team, Yi Sang, Faust, Ryoshu, and Rodion match with the required sin resources perfectly while the other two have one off sin. Faust is there to provide sp for rodion and ryoshu and to let Don apply all the tremor count that is needed with her passive.Nails doesn't do much because it's 1/2 bleed count This team has the additional annoyance that all the bench passives apply to the unit with the highest speed and Faust, Ryoshu, and Rodion are all tied with a range of 4-7. When facing unbreakable coins you should either evade or use ryoshu's guard becuase of how much bleed count they consume.Status temas would be much better if everything applied next turn by default so it could actually build up. Nails sorta does this but it halves itself at turn end and applies the bleed count at turn start.
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tyim tyuu dyuu yuur daiwies, wimbyabs!!!!
>>1235842 zenya wyigs dyis tyeem, nyif yuu wyan tyuu wyun nyid!!!
>>1236393 >If you want to use those IDs; then just use them. Fair enough, but it's fun to make a team that can really pop off with synergy. For a more bleed focused team like yours, this is the best I could come up with, the on-field team would probably be 1, 3, 4, 8, 9, 11 and 12. >>1237204 Your seem to be building more into Tremor, my best bet would probably be something with these, but I don't know who to field. Also on the topic of just using IDs I want to use, I made up this Blorn team a.k.a. "everyone's blasting while Ryoshu is keeping Yi Sang from team wiping", it's a bit silly but there's room for some pride res and Thoracalgia action. Don't look at two support IDs, I'm holding off on sharding Der Outis until I finish pulling on the Walp.
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>>1235842 >>1237204 Just use them on a team with ring yisang and outis.
Think we'll get any "by popular demand" IDs like firefist for this season or will it just be heishouslop from now until Christmas? Unrelated but we were robbed of Hindya. I don't care if it had sucked; that would have made it even better. I want failure IDs.
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>>1240726 We'll see i suppose. You can bet if we ever get any firefistesque ID that it'll overshadow and mog cock cliff. Which is is deserved Heishou suck
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>>1240726 No. >Spoiler I prefer maidya. But yes I would have gladly taken Hindya. >The butlers we got are all female They can't pull the look.
Well Dispatch is over so now I have nothing to look forward to between updates. So d'you think Cockcliff will be better or worse than Cockclair? I can already imagine how unusable the thread will be when the kit drops.
I still needed to get the 8 exclusive fusion gifts achievement, so I tested the Rosespanner team for infinity. >>1240970 It'd be nice if he had more burn count or a deathrite. I don't really care if he's better or worse.
>>1241423 If he's an Adept he should have a unique status effect, self buff, and S3-2 at least. If he's just a normal rooster, he's basically doomed to be Sinclair with slightly different conditionals.
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>>1240970 He's gonna be worse because the maost tax is still not fully paid
>>1241423 >everyday ass rosespanner fixer is better than a level 4 w-ack agent Uh based?
>>1240970 Dispatch was fun but short. I'll have to look for something else to do too. At least the director will tell us what's going to happen soon.
No... Director I was about to go to bed.
>>1243366 Oh boy, I don't need sleeping help so you can tell me if he's going for that christmas release or it's a february release.
Fascinating. I'm going to bed, see you all in a few hours.
If korean uses loan words then he talked about skins for a bit.
Ok, I'm here and ready for disappointment and story time with our beloved El Director. >>1243954 Don't give me hope.
The 3D model is new?
>3D El Director I'm satisfied
Anyone know if a translation Google doc has been posted??
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>>1244160 Bless Thank you!!
>Ram Don cute
A FUCKING GOAT
The bottom is cropped >>1231995 With the announcement of ram don my delusion takes one more step towards reality.
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Don is the GOAT ||she should've been the teaser imo||
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>walpurgis night lineup Oh boy Time to see if we'll get our first ALEPH lobotomy ID
>|| ||
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>>1244197 Nyooo I'm swowwy
>Ryoshu plushie I don't care how much it costs, I'm buying it
Ish Nendo Faust, Ryoshu, Hong, Ish, and Gregor fumos
I saw a seaon one ticket in the rewards.
C.U.M.
>>1244290 She look like she could be my mom
>>1244290 Isn't that her actually sword?
>>1244299 Yes, the handle is the same
>>1244290 Season is planned for 12.31 UI Renewal (again)
>Lunacy revives You did not beat the game. But this hopefully means they can do harder battles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rhIpw_uoJY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB-NpxepZJk RR1 rerun and ID trailers incase anyone wants to see them in better quality
He will probably continue dumping work related stuff on the stream. I'm hyped for Ryoshu's canto, thanks Director but it's enough.
>>1244290 >>1244295 So this is probably a massive spoiler for canto 9 But ryoshu's outfit in the ego is a traditional Japanese marriage dress. I think this is basically confirmation that ryoshu married and had a biological child (which would honestly make the hell painting more despair kino)
>>1244409 Yeah I mean we already knew that from the book I want to see how are they going to handle Ryoshu seeing her own daughter be burned and how they will change her hanging herself. And what the Hell Screen will actually be, I'm expecting us going into the painting similar to the fishtank in Distortion Detective.
>>1244435 >Yeah I mean we already knew that from the book Right But there was uncertainty with people thinking that ryoshu's kid would be adopted
The season's name is spider's thread/the red string of fate on the other side upside down. >>1244409 I wouldn't treat the ego artwork as a confirmation of story details.
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>director says they wanna be faster with walpurgis >they wanna do new walpurgisnacht every 2 months >because they wanna release some if the more underrated characters What do we think of this?
>>1244486 I'm thinking fridge cake.
>>1244486 I'd say that it depends on whether it's going to be just ID gachas or have a battle developed for it.
>>1244486 >What do we think of this? Cunny 😭😭😭 I'm up for releasing more throwbacks, but more frequent Lunacy drains = jewishness
>>1244495 Director said we'd get story & events every 4 months like we already do So it'd be a filler Walp then 2 months later we get a proper one with event+story followed by another filler Walp in 2 months He wants to do more frequent Walpurgisnights so we can get stuff that we flew past strengthwise, he gives Porccubus as an example personally I want Streetlight office
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>>1244495 He said they'll do a walpurgis with a story battle and then the next one would be gacha banner only. Rince and repeat.
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>>1244544 In your picture he said they're open to making the IDs from a alt universe where streetlight office are stronger. So i think it's possible Grade 1 fixer lulu...
>>1244544 Porccubus's ego card in Ruina is a skin tight suit so it'd probably sell well. I don't think that he needs to make them as if they are from a stronger universe. That's what the level system is supposed to explain away.
>>1244529 Having Walpipis more often would mean you can actually skip one if it's not something you're crazy about and just wait a couple of months to shard what you skipped (instead of half a year), I think it's for the better and, for sensible people, it would actually be less of a pressure/FOMO.
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>>1244601 >I don't think that he needs to make them as if they are from a stronger universe. That's what the level system is supposed to explain away It's because director has autism about id powerlevel. He wants the IDs we get as we continue along the story to be higher powerlevel wise. Which is why he's really hesitant on releasing IDs for reruns. Casssetti meursault for example had to be upscale from a 6th gen jobber to a 3rd kindred lord
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>>1244290 >Long hair Based, the only thing she needed. It's good. >>1244486 Big fat lie. But if it happened, means I'd roll just for the lobcorp ones and shart the rest later. Nothing changes,really.
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>>1245107 >Big fat lie You can go read the Google doc retard
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Season 7 teaser in better quality
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>>1245335 It is the gossypium?
>>1244290 >Blood everywhere >Jetstream Sam's sword in the background Burn+Bleed season Burn+Bleed season!!!
>>1244486 I think Director wants you to spend money. Anyway I guess it will depend on the stats but I don't mind a 2 month wait to shard if quality drops.
I wish that the boss mode becomes an additional way to spend the weekly bonuses for the same amount of season exp and cost the same amount of energy. I don't like his vision of an auto battler because it's synonymous with winrate spam nor do I care for roguelikes in general. >>1245335 >Her hood looks like a placenta >The loose strings from her back knot kinda form the sillhouete of wings >I assume that fourth match flame having her sword is a mistake. >>1245569 It's a new one. I'm thinking the abno is either the demon painting, the sword in the foreground, or the white floating thing.
>>1245569 I don't think so, too much emphasis on red threads/veins The whole season is called "The Spider's Thread" lol
>>1245746 Cotton is harvested from gossypium so you can make threads with. I know it only resembles it slightly, but I can't help seeing a small connection.
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>>1245620 I think the raid boss mode or whatever it'll become will have it's own reward separate from MD (for the better) Basically a free 10 pull every 2 weeks. With maybe a extra 10 if you're sweaty enough to clear super duper hardcore mode or heat other people in a leader board
>>1245804 I thought about making the >but cotton is woven into threads! connection but that's not what the abno is about. Drenched Gossypium's theme is cotton watered with blood, no weaving here least not that I can see, so it's a reach imo el director develop an abno codex PLEASE
>>1245222 Why are you guys so stupid and take personal offense everytime we shit talk KJH? Trickalbro and Tiphkek too boot.
>>1245335 It better be an Aleph, I don't want to slot out Contempt, Awe.
>>1246383 Remember when people unironically believed Hongers would get an BP ALEPH? And then Ryoshu would have it? At this rate not even meursault will. >>1245620 >Planned So May at earliest. Also yeah, that hood looks like a placenta. All the veins and translucent cap indicate it even further. Also on the right you can see classic Oni heads. There's a pentagon pattern too. All I all, I expected more fire. Are we sure this won't be orange flame?
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>>1245620 >I don't like his vision of an auto battler because it's synonymous with winrate spam nor do I care for roguelikes in general Same, but sadly he's had this Vision™ for a while now. He always has great ideas for the KINO narrative, but his gameplay ideas are all over the place. I just hope it doesn't end up being as bad as it sounds. >>1245850 >leader board Please don't. >>1246383 I'd honestly be fine with Ryoshu getting the first Aleph. I'm just worried because being the first to get anything (negative coin IDs, unbreakable coins, assist attacks, whatever) always feels like a gamble on whether it ends up being overpowered or complete trash, and I'd rather it be neither.
>>1246337 I think you should go back to halfchan
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>>1245850 I'm feel like that the director is too conservative when using server resources to do that and we only have ID numbers to go by. >>1246383 The director might make it an Aleph since everyone already has their waw and moving onto the next rank would generate the most interest for the battle pass. The main sign against the director moving onto Alephs is Rodya's two waws. >>1245335 Her dress reminds me more of sacrificial/cerimonial dress than a wedding dress at this point since the hood is less emphasized.
>>1246889 >I think Doubt >>1247687 >The main sign against the director moving onto Alephs is Rodya's two waws. And Don's. And Meursault's. And Gregor's. Hell even the lack of ZAYINs is telling.
>>1247687 It's one of the main traditional kimono worn for marriage. The 角隠し is just stylised by being semi transparent.
>>1249798 *綿帽子 + 角隠し
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So how do you guys feel about director's current plan for EGO threadspin 5 that he talked about yesterday >sometimes there are weeks where we release 1ID or 1EGO Banner >so we release alongside it threadspin 5 for one other EGO >For example yisang 4th match flame >I want EGO to be long lived. So it'd have new unique status and maybe a new passive
>>1247815 I forgot to say that it was Rodya because she got her 2nd waw before Hong Lu and Sinclair got their 1sts and it came relatively out of the blue. I think that the lack of zayins is it's own thing. >>1249965 I have a list of things that have in game examples. I don't have any ideas for new implementations. > The Red eyes EGOs gaining the ability to spend or gain Red Eyes(Unique Charge) > Capote Gaining Tremor - Scorch >The early passives that require resonance that aren't worth or need to have another condition activated at the same time for the resonance requirement to be removed. >For more ego corrosions to be like Don's Teleople or Meur's Screwlose Wallop where they give you punishing debuffs and let you keep control over your sinner instead of an attack that you can only let happen. Magic bullet would count if it lost the because it ends with an instakill and Yi Sang's fell bullet is unique in that way.
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>>1250318 I suppose we'll have to see our first example on how much work and effort they're willing to put ok threadspin 5. But I'd like it if capote ish had something like burn deluge. And also give it clashing potential on par with meursault's version (maybe locked behind needing the enemy to have near full burn)
>>1250318 >I forgot to say that it was Rodya because she got her 2nd waw before Hong Lu and Sinclair got their 1sts and it came relatively out of the blue. Well unless they make the ego bleed and burn it's 100% a WAW. >>1249965 It's another reroll. Some will end up good, some just better (they were shit so it doesn't matter). And some will become mandatory.
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I've noticed this weird phenomenon with limbus Company. Where people would look at older IDs with rose tinted glasses and downplay any new ID that comes out. Funniest examples throughout the ages are... >full stop heath will not surpass rabbit >knight of despair rodya will not be better than dieci >hanafuda ishmael will not be better than molar ish
>>1255309 Because every ID represents a resource dump (time or money) and having the new ID that replaces them basically makes that time "wasted". Especially so if they didn't get the ID on release and thus didn't get to enjoy the high as long as others but getting it early forces the payment of lunacy or boxes.
>>1255309 Retardation Delusion Lack of Imagination Fanboyism Etc I do not recall anyone saying that Dieci rodya would be better though. Unless you count MDE shield memes. Also hanafuda ish is a tremor unit first and mogs the shit out of molar in that department.
>>1255495 Hanaish feels like a true dual status character to me, in part because both her statuses are debuffs at core. She does great physical damage and good status infliction on both teams, in tremor the sinking lowers enemy SP, in sinking the tremor lowers enemy defense, good coin numbers trigger butterflies and S3-2 and EGO can tremor burst.
>>1255309 >people would look at older IDs with rose tinted glasses and downplay any new ID that comes out >every listed comparison is a walpurg id ...wtf are you talking about, I refuse to believe people downplay walpurg ids >inb4 dawnclair 1 outlier and it was a shitpost so it gets a pass
>>1255309 Those units haven't been out-performed in their specific uses. >Rabbit fell off in the way most of the first releases did, but he's one of the best units for infinity mirror dungeon in a way that could've never been done intentionally. >Knight Rodya is one of the best clashers while Deici Rodya is one of the best tanks. >Boatworks Ish is the best ID for sinking count while not really being a tremor unit, but her true niche is that project moon messed up when typing her values in and left her with an evade with a base power of 10.
>>1255642 >I refuse to believe people downplay walpurg ids You should look at the threads around the time of fullstops heath releasing. People genuinely believed that at BEST he'd be a rabbit sidegrade. The idea of walpurgis stuff being objectively overpowered and meta changing only started once people saw that project moon isn't afraid of making rabbit heath (who was considered immune to powercreep from how strong quick suppression was) obsolete thanks to fullstop
>>1255413 >and having the new ID that replaces them basically makes that time "wasted". Are people just not familiar with gachas and powercreep? That stuff is normal. Even ruina did massive powercreep every time you jumped the threat rankings
>>1255536 If she didn't devour count, specially with her S2, sure Ish had molar which was the previous sinking count queen. The again sinking is pretty miserable to play not because it's bad but because you can feel how outdated the IDs are, so Im not sure of how the modern team plays around count. >>1255863 >>1255869 >project moon isn't afraid of making rabbit heath (who was considered immune to powercreep from how strong quick suppression was) obsolete thanks to fullstop Honestly it seems like literal retards/underages that quite literally don't play videogames. I was in the global chat of DNA, and someone mentioned limbis and acted like a stereotypical dontard. He was 17. Things start making sense when you encounter these people in the wild.
>>1255917 Well yeah... we've known for a long time that a portion of limbus's fanbase are kids who found about it through roblox and tiktok
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>>1255869 >Are people just not familiar with gachas and powercreep? This is a lot of people's first Gacha or the only Gacha they tolerate. In my case it's the latter, I'm just happy to get IDs with interesting gameplay and an uptie story. >>1255917 >I was in the global chat of DNA, and someone mentioned limbis and acted like a stereotypical dontard. He was 17. Things start making sense when you encounter these people in the wild. And this is the second matter, Roblox introduced PM to a lot of underage players. They all treat it like their super cool club despite it clearly being normalfag tier now (Jojo reference level). >>1255999 Generally why I prefer discussion here. Quality on halfchan to abysmal and while its slow here, at least I know I'm talking to a real person.
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Am I the only one who misses the old style of limbus EGOs? Where it was basically just the LCB sinner using the ego? Honestly they should've stuck with this style for any new zayin
>>1259412 Nyo, it was boring >lats smear some red/gree/blue cum on the sinners and call it an EGO gear At least the newer ones look like we're actually using an EGO and assimilate with the abno
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>>1259438 Let's agree to disagree. I'm a fan of simple ego designs. And don't really vibe with complicated stuff like the ryoshu ego you posted (I still don't understand why people hype it up so much. I've even seen people say it's still ryoshu's best ego design after her battle pass ego was revealed)
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>>1259579 I don't see a thematic reason for why a BATTERING RAM is sinking instead of tremor. Heath looks strong though. Seems like sinclair but on steroids
Also CHRISTMAS HEATH UPSCALE!!
>>1259579 >sinking
>>1259579 So obviously Bloodflame Massacre properly accounts for the self damage when calculating the final damage on hit right? They didn't just make his S3-1 to lock in his HP conditionals right? Also Don's sinking basically amounts to chip SP damage and panic switcher, so I'd just think of her as a Rupture unit with mostly negative/neutral count, just use fluid sack for lowering enemy sanity. Looks like Heathcliff makes it so you really don't want to get rid of Hong's S2 in MD. It already does absurd damage but getting a % of damage dealt as bonus wrath damage (modified higher by Don's sanity mod) will make his single target damage even more absurd.
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>>1260000 You wouldn't want to get rid of hong's skill 2 anyway even before this. It locked you out of the +2 power from the shi gift if you only have skill 3s
>>1260021 Generally, you get rid of the s2 for the s3 and keep the S1s because the Poise tier 4 will discard S1's anyway and it's faster to eliminate compared to clearing all skills. Rodion just wants to spam her s3, Gregor's happy with s2 or s1. Mao's S1s are better for damage compared to their S2s and only outis is count negative with it. Rooster is the only one that wants to preserve their s2, maybe Wu Sang too but I'd argue that he's the single character you'd want to swap almost all skills for his s3 to rush his AOE and trigger Ishmael's follow up. Since EGO gifts make sin resources easy to accumulate, you can have Hong just use "to Remain oneself" or a similarly strong EGO if he only has S1s and a counter would be suicide.
>>1259649 If I had to create an interpretation for it, I suppose it would be because the opponent’s composure is being broken when they’re hit with a battering ram meant for destroying buildings.
>>1260093 I'd just chalk it up to outskirts beast magic. Not every blunt ID is tremor. Yes Don is good at breaking through your guard/defenses. But Yi Sang is the vanguard/linebreaker, Don is the one that shatters morale, and the Roosters are the ones that slaughter during the Route. They're the "War type" Heishu to the Si/Mao's Espionage/assassination type.
>>1259412 It can cause some confusion because it would muddle it up whether it was done on purpose or not and it can be confused with the effects of ego corrosion. Ryoshu has sword in her base, 4th match flame, and season ego; Don only has her shoes in her base; Ishmael has her headband depending on whether it suits her current hairstyle; and there is always something different with Gregor's arm. >>1260093 I'm willing to bet that they decided to stop making any additional deathrites because of Maoust. The heishou's were made with q corp technology so it might go unexplained until we know what the singularity actually does or until her uptie story and why she's always cold.
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>>1260198 Oh they FOR SURE stopped making deathrites because of maost. Since it would fuel her 3-2 faster because any deathrite getting triggered increased her tiangu stack for the 3-2. Though if we do get heishous for the sweeper rerun. They might give them back the deathrite since maost wouldn't be that broken anymore after 2 seasons of powercreep (gonna wait and see how bonkers the canto 9 IDs will be a month from now)
>>1259579 Don looks fun but she seems so count negative she will be the md bait ID. Heath is straight up a better cocklair. Also he's the 4th ID to have a 5 coiner skill
>>1259579 >The sheep is uhh sinking Ok. It also seems that the best rupture team remains Lord Lu + His rabbit squad + filler. Also heathcliff chicken adept? WAW Seems to be better thought out even though he is beyond DOA on rupture. >>1260000 It could be lame as 50 max wrath damage or something lmao
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>>1260454 Do keep in mind that heath has no rupture ego. So this heath ID would go crazy once he gets his own version of rambling man
>>1260601 Zilu did it better
>>1259412 I don't really like the 'LCB suit covered in stuff' aesthetic BUT >Honestly they should've stuck with this style for any new zayin I agree, maybe even some Teth EGO, lower tier EGO should be a little boring to contrast against the spicier ones I just hope they stop making corrosions just abnos wearing a wig
>>1260454 >It could be lame as 50 max wrath damage or something lmao Sinclair's damage isn't maxed so they probably won't made the Adept's s3 worse. Unless you mean the buff for Hong Lu, which will probably be capped at 20damage. >>1260568 He has the Christmas EGO which should trigger as long as his target has a single self buff. >>1260353 >Oh they FOR SURE stopped making deathrites because of maost. The funny thing is that Hong's S3 scales up to 3 deathrites so it will be pretty funny if they never give us another deathrite.
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>>1260740 I've always been of the opinion that zayins and teths should have plain and boring looking EGOs That's how it worked in lobcorp and it should've been the design process behind limbus too.
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>>1260900 Well, the E.G.O the LCB uses isn't the same as what LobCorp had, and it's not even the same as what the LCE uses. Stable, wieldable E.G.O gear usually gets released as IDs (like Moth Faust), while the stuff we use as E.G.O is something pulled out of the Mirror, not directly from an Abnormality. So we have no fucking way of knowing what kind of philosophy the creators of that E.G.O had in their own mirror worlds. LobCorp put a lot of care into extracting safe, stable E.G.O gear. It was something usable, but because of that, not as powerful in theory. LCE E.G.O gear is way stronger, but more dangerous, since it's closer to tapping the Abnormality's actual ego instead of adapting it into equipment. Meanwhile, LCB E.G.O is extremely unstable but powerful, which is why we can only summon it for a second, and even then the Sinners risk corroding. At the end of the day, I'm honestly surprised there's any visual cohesion at all between the different E.G.Os we get. I do agree that lower-tier E.G.O should look more tame so the high-tier ones stand out more. But high-tier stuff like Awe looks amazing and should look amazing, so I don't mind them not matching what we saw in LobCorp or even what they use in LCE.
>>1260976 >something pulled out of the Mirror, not directly from an Abnormality. So we have no fucking way of knowing what kind of philosophy the creators of that E.G.O had in their own mirror worlds. EGO skills are just synchronization with the abnormality the same way it worked in the Library. The closest equivalent way to think of it is a fusion dance between the Abnormality and the Sinner. That's why Yi Sang's 4th match Flame is essentially the Library version, and the Walpurgis Regret, Lament, and In the Name of Love and Hate (corrosion) are direct copies of the Library of Ruina skills (or heavily based on them). EGO Gear is the same whether it's Lcorp, LCE, Tech Liberation, or Ncorp. It's stable ego forgedinto actual equipment. These are always portrayed as IDs. Psychoment/EGO sync is the Library of Ruina styled EGO skills, these are always a slotable skill and passive. As Kod Rodion and QoH Don show, Lcorp EGO isn't any different from LCE EGO in regards to Corrosion (or Ncorp considering their boss mechanics). The only confirmed stated difference between LCE EGO gear and Lcorp EGO gear is that they don't limit the influence of the abnormality as much allowing the more caried forms (flaming wings, roots, etc). Presumably, Lcorp Gears are so stable that unless you sink very well with them (Don, Ryoshu, Rodion) you won't corrode while LCE and Ncorp Gears always risk corrosion. However this is still extrapolation because in Lcorp you specifically COULDN'T equip EGO to agents that couldn't handle it while LCE/Ncorp notably don't care either way. This leads into the Technology Liberation Alliance IDs which specifically use Lcorp EGOs but lack the ability to handle the EGO and are ALL corroding as a result. But yes, Psychoment syncing (EGO skills) are still the most psychologically damaging that basically cause immediate corrosion (see: Camille, the Zwei chick). tl;dr we really need to define the difference between wearing gear and synchronizing with the abnormality to properly see the difference between TLA EGO Gears, Lcorp EGO Gears, LCE EGO Gears, and Ncorp EGO Gears... and Effloresced and Unstable EGO VS "EGO skills"
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>>1260976 I know that. But having zayin EGOs be just as flashy as WAW and ALEPH egos feels...wrong
>>1260836 The holiday ego for heath is just a +1 to burn and rupture potency. I want a ego with a passive that makes heath inflict more rupture count.
PLUS some sinners use the same abno's EGO at different risk levels (one that immediately comes to mind is blind obsession, Ryoshu has it at Teth, Ish has it at Waw), it's neat seeing different sinners sync with abnos at varying degrees
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>>1261337 I kinda wish they'd do repeat EGOs more. Especially because I wanna see how someone like don would change capote for example. Kinda wish PM would do a fanmade poll or something once a year to see which EGOs people wanted to see the most (limbus original abnos only)
>>1261263 >more count. You ask too much, check your greed. lol. >>1261370 If they're going to do repeats, I'd rather they did an EGO that we only have one of like Impending Day or You must become strong. I recall they had fun mechanics unlike Passenger.
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I made a learning guide >>1260900 L Corp's ego suits are boring because they prioritize stability.
>>1261207 >EGO skills are just synchronization with the abnormality the same way it worked in the Library. The closest equivalent way to think of it is a fusion dance between the Abnormality and the Sinner I've always believed that too, but Faust has previously compared E.G.O gear with what the Sinners' E.G.O skills. Whether she's dumb and is comparing apples with oranges or simply an unreliable narrator, I don't know, but I find it odd that she went out of her way to compare them. >The only confirmed stated difference between LCE EGO gear and Lcorp EGO gear is that they don't limit the influence of the abnormality as much allowing the more caried forms (flaming wings, roots, etc) Yeah, that's what I meant by 'unstable but powerful', maybe I'm giving LCE too much credit, however. >>1261569 Heh All this talk about E.G.O and E.G.O gear reminds me that I still don't have my Little Red Riding Hooded Mercenary Ishmael…
>>1261606 >I've always believed that too, but Faust has previously compared E.G.O gear with what the Sinners' E.G.O skills. Do you know where she talks about it? I don't remember what exactly she said but simply comparing the two can imply a whole lot. EGO gears and Psychoment (EGO Sync) are both EGO but in function they're the difference between a rifle and a missile. It's like how the Sinners' personal EGO (Heathcliff's Bodysack) vs an EGOist (Erlking's Dullahna). We actually do have a written example of this in Distortion detective, Yuria (who is owned by LCE now) managed to make a way for non-ego users to temporarily manifest their EGO explosively, this is how the Sinner's personal EGOs work. While Erlking actually has unlocked his EGO which manifests as his Sword (coffin for playable version) and Dullahan, for Heathcliff (ours) instead of a coffin he has the bodysack that held his first kill. So if you need an idea of what "Psychoment" (egosync) items actually look like, it looks like whatever device Yuria made to draw out someone's personal EGO. However this technology has been modified to draw out an Abnormalities' personal EGO and transpose it over the Sinner (aka Sunshower EGO skill attack) in the same way the tech is used to draw out their personal ego for singular strong attacks.
>>1261876 Faust isn't comparing Sinner ego usage, Rodion said that because the sinners weren't aware of the concept of EGO gear yet, only knowing Psychoment (EGO sync). All Faust said was "yea, Lobotomy Corp turned EGO into physical items and the Tech Alliance uses the bough to enable qlippoth deterrence". And yea, Yuria's forced ego extraction device (she called it Psychoment) was/is basically a back alley way of creating EGO short term which is what the sinners use to extract their own personal EGOs and the EGOs of the Abnormalities which functionally works the same as EGO skills from Library of Ruina. IF a difference needs to be drawn between Ruina EGO and Limbus EGO, it's that Angela supports the Librarians and allows them to use EGO without corroding/losing their minds. That said, Ruina EGO having cooldowns and emotion level gating functionally acts the same as needing Sin Affinity Resources and Sanity Thresholds. I'll reiterate, all Faust is saying is that "EGO skills" are a very unstable shitty version of true EGO Gear. The difference between a Scud missile and a Tomahawk missile. The Scud could have a much more powerful warhead but it lacks the precision, range, and technical prowess of the Tomahawk. Hope that makes sense.
>>1262253 That does make sense, though I had to google what the fuck those missiles were. Then I suppose there's no real inconsistencies there, but like you said, let's hope El Director goes deeper into the differences between all this different forms of E.G.O. I still maintain that Faust is dumb, however.
>>1232297 Pbird in Woodsman is really cute. Thanks for always sourcing.
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>>1261569 >>1261569 L corp ego gear clearly is the strongest one because of that stability. Just look at qoh don and kodya They can basically over sync with the abno and become pseudo permanent library EGOs. Without the risk of death and full on corrosion because the suit is stable
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>>1263726 It is funny how PM was gonna nerf this ego by making it [before action] instead of [before attack] Glad that somehow the Koreans and chinks seethed enough about it for them to stick to making it before attack. This means that the ego will now be better. Because using at 45 sp will now make you end with 35 sp instead of 25
Does anyone have a lvl 1 LCE yi sang to borrow? my account is bricked because i like doing solos. B488487811
>>1263006 My pleasure. >>1263835 Sent.
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>Literally unplayable Nice game limbabs
>>1264217 you can play now
>>1264217 KJH should send me compensation for overcapped enk.
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Ryōshū's voice actress sent a cake to PM's office to celebrate their 9th anniversary. Cute.
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Another cake, by Studio EIM
>>1264336 >>1264446 Never 4get that Pmoon is a company with ~40 employees that includes the ones working at Ham^2Pang^2 >5th pic
>>1263315 >They can basically over sync with the abno and become pseudo permanent library EGOs. I don’t think that’s really a standard feature for Lob EGO, but rather, it’s essentially Lob EGO becoming more like LCE EGO due to the users being extremely compatible with the gear, breaking the safety thresholds that were put in place.
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>>1265549 >~40 employees Wrong. >>1265593 LATE
>>1265611 Oh good he brought in some new people in with the collab money Citation needed tho >wrong It was a (not incorrect) ballpark estimate from what I heard last, a ~50% relative increase is a lot, but 20 employees is not and there's still over 10% of the company working IN A SANDWICH SHOP. Pmoon is still tiny compared to say, Hypergryph
>>1265661 You forced me to search, but I finally found it. The director already had more than 50 employees on the second anniversary, so we're a long way from your 40 The previous image is from the last stream.
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>>1265550 >breaking the safety thresholds that were put in place. I don't think that's the case at all From reading the uptie story and reading their kits. It's apparent that lobcorp ego is so well made that it allows the used to over sync with the ego with zero risk of full corrosion. Meanwhile faust isn't even synced that well with armor moth and the ego is already making her prone to killing herself. Same goes for jia huan corroding from the contempt awe suit that his level drops from 75 to 55
>>1263987 Thank you <3
Hop in, Anon!
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>>1268862 Carmen is honestly the peak human female
>doing stuff to maintain account before catching up with story >get weird ID story where something mysterious talks to you in chinese Ishmael's ID story >get this loading screen they didn't think through the spoiler protection very well
>>1269270 You probably should've read that story throughly
>>1268167 I don’t think there’s anything that indicates that. Rodya’s story highlights that her level of attunement with the EGO is unusually high, and both hers and Don’s EGOs reference this with the passive warning about how the sync threshold with their gear has been exceeded. >Normally, this wouldn't have been possible even with a high attunement rate, but the LCE E.G.O were different. From LCE Faust’s story. This should be in comparison to Lob Corp’s standards. Faust’s ability to fly should be something like the user gaining more abilities related to the abno the Ego was extracted from, and I assume Rodya’s and Don’s negative SP states are similar to this and should be “impossible” in the sense that Lob EGO was produced specifically to stop that, not allow it as an extra feature.
>>1269377 >Limbus player >reading Hah, good one.
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>>1269915 I don't think the lobcorp ego were designed to stop it. Otherwise they wouldn't have been possible in the first place. Ayin and lobcorp HQ were THAT good with their produced ego gear. If you noticed don and rodya always fully return to positive sp after a while from their negative sp form. Which shows that lobcorp ego has a built in safety net to protect the user. Meanwhile both lce and ncorp don't have such a thing
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Final 'pipi haul: >on rateup Ishmael, Gebura, Sinclair >off rateup Firefist Greg, Manager Don, T Outis, Dieci Hongler, Contempt, Awe E.G.O, Indicant's Trial, Red Eyes, FB Heath, ABS Ishy, Lantern Sinclair, Ya Sunyata Cliff, Angela >sparked Greg >sharded FS Hongler, Der Outis with E.G.O, SL Sang and Greg, KoDya
No numbers /lcg/ has fallen
>>1272018 FUCK, I KNEW I WAS FORGETING SOMETHING, RIGHT AWAY
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>>1272018 The only thing that has fallen is the fucking imbeciles coding this shit.
THIS TOAD WITH RED COIN IS CANCER FOR SP
>>1272031 Heath's cock ID
Numbers /lcg/ is saved
>>1272094 Don's wooly ID >>1272107 In my defense, I forgot today was Wednesday
Don't go to the other website if you don't want to be spoil.
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listen to cathy, PM left some major shit in the files this time so unfortunate
Cool cool thanks for the heads up I haven't had to say this for a while but MONZO YOU FUCK
>>1272217 >>1272233 How mayor are we talking about? Something related to future IDs (meh)? About the following canto (fuck)? Please tell me it's not about the future plot as a whole… (I-can-hear-Carmen levels of despair)
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>>1272281 Just face the fear and look it up.
>>1272281 there's images of a unit there's conversation about whether or not this is actually test content or something in our immediate future but if you are a "going in blind" kinda guy you should probably avoid the thread for at least a week
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>>1272319 I see, well, I haven't been in halfchan since 'the happening', but thanks for the warning. Since I just posted the numbers of the newest IDs, I think I'll just stay off this thread too for a week just in case. I'll just drop by every now and then just to post art. Good luck to everyone with the Railway, see you in a week!
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For those that dared look into the well What do you think? Is the list real? What do you think about the index guy using black goo to generate many weapons?
EGO and Psychoment are different words made to describe the same thing. The shell of one’s ego. It’s a physical manifestation of the mind. They can either be sourced from oneself as personal egos or borrowed from abnos. Personal egos can either be an item, clothing, a transformation, or a set of things. The library used abnos resting in books and removed the downsides with the assistance of Angela. In Limbus company they are acknowledged as existing, but our method of acquiring them in not described besides as being included within the possibilities that mephi can draw out. EGO suits are concepts made into physical items. Attunement and Synchronization are almost the same thing. High baseline synchronization can be seen in Kali and L Corp Ryoshu. As one interacts and wears the ego of a specific abno their synchronization towards that one abno will increase because of corrosion. Synchronization born from corrosion can be seen from Rodion trauma dumping on an abno and feeling betrayed by it and Don LARPing as a magical girl with an abno. Ryoshu, despite having a higher synchronization and hearing voices, treats Red Eyes like the creature it is thereby distancing herself from corrosion. L Corp EGOs have a fixed and low attunement, but can still be strengthened by synchronization. LCE EGOs have a variable attunement that can be increase by proximityliteral distance and an increased understanding/empathy of the abno. L Corp egos won't gain any new abilities no matter what, but LCE egos will gain the abilities of the source abno the more the attunement rises. The best comparison is between L Corp and LCE EGO are Lantern Don and Lantern Yi Sang since Faelantern is an aberration of Meat Lantern. Lantern Yi Sang is able to submerge himself entirely in the ground in his evade and entrap targets in brambles despite only being around teth gear. The Liberation front got their egos from a lob corp branch. N Corp EGOs were first said to be either N Corp produced or scavenged from a branch, but then were later described as they physically could not have had enough time to reach their current level of completion by Faust. >>1263315 L Corp EGOs are the weakest because of the stability by default and we don't have any other waw ego suits to compare it to. Even "In the Name of Love and Hate" had a necktie, collar, and sleeves to bring it closer to a suit and distance it away from the source abno. Both of them have already heavily corroded and it's all their faults because of how bad they are at following the manual and there is nothing remotely close, besides the source abno itself, to the strength of a permanent library ego. >>1265550 The safety thresholds exist to prevent the attunement from raising too high and the agent turning into a part of the source abno themselves or doing something only the abno could surviveexplode. They are working perfectly and its a personal failure on the parts of Rodion and Don for empathizing with the abnos like they are people. >>1269915 The negative states are caused by mental corrosion and do not unlock additional abilities or bring them closer to the abno like an increase in attunement would do to LCE EGOs. Rodion is able to summon swords and move them in a positive state and Don is able to fire projectiles and lasers in a positive state. >>1272217 I will follow my curiosity.I think that it looks cool.
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The director is sad about this
>>1272424 Why does she keep caring for young lords/heirs? Will she become the mother/sister/nanny to every troubled Youth on the bus?
I will not read.
>>1272338 thank you jia senya >>1272424 looking forward to it >>1272579 kek
>>1272579 Monzo's gonna die... again...
>>1273136 I can hide there and she would never find me
>>1272094 That isn't much status app, is it? Looks to me like he's more of a self-burn DPS than burn.
>full heal after every battle >can freely change your loadout between battles What's the point of rr1 now? Its thing was that it was a long war of attrition, it literally has no special mechanics compared to the other railways so that's all it had going for it, now it's just like 13 separate story nodes except you get to keep stamina and ego resources. This is literally worse than the release version of rr1 in which you couldn't even have a full team of 5 viable units
>>1273708 >What's the point of rr1 now? Free resources?
>>1273708 It's better than nothing, but yeah, it's just not challenging at all, the healing and backup is redundant when the stages aren't threatening in the first place. And they could have made the guarantee ticket a selector instead.
>>1264336 >>1264446 Need this guy to learn about knife warming
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How hard can it possibly be to not put beta content in your release version?
>>1273994 >And they could have made the guarantee ticket a selector instead. Yea, but I spent my original guarantee and needed a new one for the hoard. >>1274482 about as hard as it is to not ship the "Do not Ship" file.
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New heath is strong...
>>1273708 That's what rr2 is for. Jokes aside I kind of enjoy this rr, granted I never got to play the original one, I enjoyed how you were able to choose a team for each node, makes it easy to speed run without rng screwing you over further down the line since they're fairly short.
I'm doing it. I'm busting out the 'ol reliable after 2 years of him rotting in the bench.
Yep, he still does it
All the new IDs are completely broken compared to the release ones, I was struggling to get 120 on the first RR
>>1275517 Ah yes, the H corp team - Kong Lu, three rabbits and some other Heishous of your choosing
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>>1275509 >>1275517 Fuck yeah nice
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>>1275802 I have decided I will not do my dailies until Canto 9 and use all the modules I assemble to grind MD.
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>>1275840 byud yuur nyeed yuur byogsies!!!! dyad nyis nyod nya gyud nyidyea!!!
So how do we feel about thefactthat next season our Sinners will get the IDs of Ryoshu's babydaddies and how will this reflect on sinner relationships in thefandom going forwards?
>>1276512 lmao we will get mooks bro Did you learn anything
>>1276533 >lmao we will get mooks bro <Lei Heng <Jiq Qiu (technically, Lord Hong) <Jia Huan <Gubo <Zilu <Wei <Xichun <Casseti We got more named characters this season than we did all last season or the season before. We'll get even more if the leaks pan out.
>>1276725 They literally are all mooks aside from Jia Qiu and Xichun.And BITCHsetti if you count him for being alone. Lei heng was even shown to have a superior nearby, lmao. >We got more named characters this season than we did all last season or the season before Well that's because long season (it'll get longer) AND no S0 aside from what, SHITfaust? I'd temper my expectations. Most seasonals will be retarded shit like "spider house bodyguard". Just because what you named aren't NAMELESS mooks doesn't mean you will actually get the cool stuff in spades. As for your other question >and how will this reflect on sinner relationships in thefandom going forwards? Irrelevant. Unless you think Xichunmael, the girl based on Honger's sister that has been important for anything that has happened since 2024, has changed anything in how people view Hong Lu and Ishmael relationship.
Well that was a boring winrate spamfest but I'm never gonna care about turns for the first line since I'm never changing the clear banner Also even if those characters are named, they're still only skins for our shitter sinners, they'll never matter or be any good ever. Our team will forever be mooks.
>>1276848 Hey, did you happen to have a Kromer Id in the previous thread?
>>1276512 >sinner relationships in the fandom You mean shipping? kinda tumblr-coded post bwo pic rel ("""relationship discourse""" aside I do like the fanart) >>1276725 >We got more named characters this season We got more ids this season period, and at least half have been nameless (at least as of now, maybe the rooster adept will be introduced later idk), I don't understand the point you're trying to make
>>1280430 >Pic Bro...that's a banu. >>1278037 Idk, did you?
>>1280607 Of course not, I had an ideal ID last thread. I'll take that as confirmation then? >>1280430 okay, no tongue in cheek question then. How bad will ship faggotry get when sinners start getting IDs of Ryoshu's daddies? Currently we're only 2 more seasonal IDs than the last season, one if we admit Wernier Sinclair has no reason being considered a season 0 ID when he's clearly based on an intervalo character. Now we did get more non-event IDs this season (8 for canto 7 vs 11 for canto 8) but Don's canto did have an Id for every character present except for the Hana members or the Pcorp members, the latter of which are probably not even combatants and Director clearly isn't letting us get Hana any time soon. As for Bari, we technically never met her, and she fits under the Vergilius powerscale of why we didn't get her, same with Don Quixote. Meanwhile the only IDs we didn't get for Hong's canto were the rival Hierarch candidates who generally have relatively basic designs and simple animations compared to what they give us for IDs. They were clearly not meant to ever be ID opportunities. Still, shame we never got a Hindley ID. I know he's not meant to be a good fighter which is why we didn't get him but I actually liked his gimmick of debuffing and then beating down someone weaker than him. Also I liked his design and animations. Oh well.
>>1280607 >that's a banu show me the cock officer, I dindu nuffin >>1280725 >How bad will ship faggotry get when sinners start getting IDs of Ryoshu's daddies Thats more like it No worse than usual probably, I remember hearing there was already a melty involving Lei Heng/Ryoshu, but I didn't see it because I don't fucking care >id discussion It was always going to be 'oops all heishou' for this canto and I'm going to be bitter about it for a long time
>>1280725 Looking down the list of all IDs, all seasons other than Oblivion have some type of enemy goon that have IDs based on them, those being N Corp fanatics, Rosespanners (and K Corp Hong), the Middle, Butlers and now the Heishou packs (and Thumbclair). The hierarch war goons didn't make the cut, but there's still a big skew towards unnamed Heishous who take up slots that could have been given to candidate IDs instead. (Just my two cents that may be misunderstanding some lore but it would have been even cooler if Hong Lord's synergy moves activated with the candidates to signify him commanding all of Hongyuan.) Not all of them are winners, but I remember the guy who retreats if you try to focus him down and Xue Pan is very memorable, the former would also fit the teammate cycling theme of the Heishou team well. They're still pretty minor characters and the rest of this season's banners is probably standard stuff so hopefully Xichun Maker Bokgak? There's also Daiyu of course but she's one character who's clearly set up for more content with her and Baochai in the future, coupled with their role in Dream of the red chamber.
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>>1281637 I have decided I will do my dailies until Canto 9 and get extra modules for MD grinding with lunacy instead.
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>>1282001 I will reconsider after I've got enough shards to get all the remaining seasonal IDs I want. I should probably go do MD6E at 50 adv to see if I can get something what I want from the guaranteed seasonal ticket asap.
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>>1280725 >I'll take that as confirmation then? If you are any smart, you have no need to ask. I knew what you were. But it's ok, since you at least aren't a mommyfag like someone else here. >How bad will ship faggotry get when sinners start getting IDs of Ryoshu's daddies? Like I said, irrelevant. Just as an example, Cockcliff and Xichunmael will get more art together than her and motherfucking weisang. Ryoshu herself doesn't interact with anyone in particular and only Hong Lu likes her antics. So at most, if he gets one of her "daddies" as an ID you will just see women drawing pseudo-father daughter incest art.
Where's the Zenakot?
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Finally.
<The only sense of normalcy on this filthy thread and she's late. Disappointing. >>1287876 Eat your fingers Eat your fingers Eat your fingers Eat your fingers Eat your fingers Eat your fingers Eat your fingers Eat your fingers Eat your fingers Eat your fingers Eat your fingers Eat your fingers Eat your fingers Eat your fingers
I'm not sure if the unfocused volley, follow up attacks, and AOEs are speeding it up by that much.
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Hope you guys are having a great weekend too!
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>>1293277 >1 second late TSK TSK >>1292892 Boring and relaxing weekend but those are welcome from time to time. But the feeling is mutual.
>>1293277 thank you qt
>>1295851 >one million bugfixes Ok
>>1295851 >Update, you can now play less of the game Riveting. >Unleash the stiletto beast KEK
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>>1299861 Damn! Pierce poise Ryoshu's good though.
>>1299861 WHO?! No really who is this
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>>1300323 You can see people falling from the sky in the background, so the answer is obvious: it's palanquin worker, my beloved!
>>1299861 >sunshower >princess >???shū With so many umbrella IDs you would think a sinner's default weapon would be an umbrella.
>>1299861 Now THIS is a promising ID story. I guess Hongers just killed Baochai, no vagueness in it.
>>1299861 >Daiyushu? >>1300323 Daiyushu was leaked in the halfchan thread. Dialogue would imply Baochai was killed since the only alternative would be the other Jia girl and theNight Drifter. >>1301048 An umbrella is a way to hide a spear if broken down into multiple parts. The sneak peak looks more like a casual outfit rather than the uptie combat art. I could be narrowly focused due to the leaks though. >>1301060 I wonder if they'll give us any more IDs based on the candidates/heishu or if we'll have a dead week before the next canto drops? I really would like a Xue Pan ID, he also fights with Q-corp Talisman like the Talisman sorcerer hierarch candidate (don't remember he name) but he has interesting mechanics about making allies (his jar monsters) go berserk and attack through stagger/death. I think that would actually be fun compared to the other candidates which are just generic charge/rupture kits.
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>>1299861 Daiyu talked about “disappearing from Hongyuan” in the context of broadening her horizons, so I’m thinking this could be a sneak peak at what she’s going to look like in the future. Though, perhaps this is Daiyu Ryoshu as a wanderer within Hongyuan rather than a drifter outside of it like Daiyu might become. Both are essentially Daiyu once she’s become lordless, but in positive and negative ways. I am curious if this’ll be another double ID banner or if this ID will be paired with an EGO instead? I’m kinda leaning towards another ID, since we still have at least one more banner before the end of this season, and we could still get an EGO release then.
>>1305841 Si Adept Meursault, trust! Who knows really? They gave us Heishu Don alongside Adept Heathcliff insteadof leaving it to the reruns to fill up the Heishu slots. On the other hand they don't tend to pair Heishu with non-heishu characters on the banners. The only remaining named characters with unique kits are Xue Pan, the Shi guy with the bolus mutations, and maybe the Talisman sorceress candidate. IF we lean on leaks we know that KQE EGO might be coming up soon but that's more a season 0 EGO.
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Charon.
>>1301888 >>1306542 thank you qt >>1307474 a bounty of charon
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Zenya spam!
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>>1314513 The ID itself looks cool, attacks look kind of meh >Lei Heng announcer Cool, still not rolling though
Funny how his current stream is basically karaoke in disguise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPEL01ioZc
>>1314513 >Lei Heng announcer I'm 100% getting that
>It's drifter Ha. But yeah the attack animations look kinda mediocre
Oh it's Daiyu with drifter flavour I see I see
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>>1314513 >Another shu ID where she's the support unit And people expect me to believe she would top. I do wonder how her capstone one will look like then. Still, I can guess a lot of things about the story of this ID but I think it's meaningless. Can't wait for it to drop.
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>>1315085 I think the actual attack motions are fine, she just lacks the flashier special effects other IDs have had. I think the one who’s had the most detailed “animation” recently is W Heathcliff (ignoring the special effects of the jets shooting out from his arm), with there being more frames to portray his movement.
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>>1327107 Just having her guard all the time will probably let her safely apply more rupture pot over time, though since it’s her S1 and the cap for her assist attacks is probably set at 1, maybe 2 most optimistically, it’ll just be a small increase. My big hope is that the additional rupture pot she inflicts on crits is actually good and she isn’t stuck inflicting only up to like 5 pot max total for a single skill, since that’s the amount of pot other “good” pot inflicters already apply by default, otherwise she’ll just be another generic damage dealer ID once her poise stack is set up.
>>1327107 >single page We're so back
>>1327107 >the lord of hongyuan hong lu may activate this effect past its usage limit I wonder if this is per skill or body part, imagine if she can do more than 3 s3 if you let hong tank all the attacks
>>1328533 It's probably 2 times (to account for his self-revival) Or maybe it means that he always triggers it even if its once per encounter. Either way I don't think its happening more than once a turn. >>1328312 As long as the numbers aren't fucked, she might be one of the stronger IDs for all her simplicity. >Replace S1's with block for Poise potency >get free poise count from unopposed S1's + Stance >Cash in on rupture with s2/3 Her stance + guard also favors her letting herself eat onesided attacks or at least guard-clash skills she won't win against since her guard becomes stronger the more HP she loses (includes shield HP) If she heals 5-10 SP like Daiyu does (hers is 10 for 2 sinners on kill) she'll be extremely useful for that alone. Probably be ~3sp though but if it can trigger 2 times per turn that's still pretty good.
>>1327107 I feel like Ryoshu is always a hair's breadth away from flooding your sin resources and now she just needs a way to be the fastest
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>>1327107 >1 page Waw! S1 sounds baller. S2 may or may not be good depending on the count. S3 is pretty standard all things considered, but at 4 coins which Im not so sure. Same idea as the heishou of using her S3 to get her super special buff. That seems like a lot of poise count too, and gains poise potency with everything but her S1. Now as for those passives. Well, need I say more? If they don't have a "contempt awe doesn't work on these btw", she won. I really want to read the uptie story now.
So is Q Corp's specialty magic paint/ink? The seals are part of their tech and the fake inn was, apparently, also Q corp tech and melted into black slime (ink). Are we going to Super Mario 64 the Hellscreen for the dungeon?
>>1329255 It’s tech from Q Corp, but may not necessarily be their Singularity’s product. J Corp has the wish power-extraction tech that was widely used within it, so the talisman stuff from Q Corp could be something similar.
>>1329255 Honestly I expect Q corp singularity to unironically be some 1000 times folded katana bs. Could explain Shu's sword.
Anyone else still salty that we don't know what U-corp agents even look like? I feel like we missed out on crazy combo weapons and transforming weapons using U-corp's singularity. >>1329007 Soda has a surprisingly high roll. Itis a Corrosion skill though. >>1329237 S2 is near guaranteed to be count negative, but hopefully only -1 or so. >>1329255 We might get Ryoshu's hellscreen as a dungeon. Hopefully they learned from Hong's chapter and retain the maze like elements.
>>1329539 We saw how pirates used the U Corp tech to fuse ships together to crush/capture other vessels. I’m expecting something like that for their equipment, letting them seamlessly capture and bind targets. Alternatively, the gear Taein from Hook Office had was fused seamlessly into his body, and ai’m guessing that that was done with the same fusion tech from U Corp Molar Boatworks was using, so maybe U Corp heavily modified their combat staff.
>>1331501 Taein's tech was a biological prosthetic like what Gregor has. Presumably it was an old G-corp brand or was made after old Gcorp mods went open source. I don't think Ucorp's singularity was necessary for them to work but then again maybe making the limb with gcorp technology and attaching it with Ucorp's singularity instead of old gcorp's methods prevents you from rapidly mutating. Ucorp and Pcorp both seem to trade in preservation/storage boxes. I'm kind of curious about the more consumer friendly services the wings provide with the use of their tech, like New Gcorp having weights that can dynamically change their weight via manipulating gravity, some tech that turns you weightless/low weight for handgliding,, or Hcorp having Boluses to change your hair color or something.
>>1329539 Rather than the roll value I meant that having ego amp being applied to every ally could be an oversight equivalent to fluid sac. Especially since we are getting more extra attack units.
>>1332740 I knew what you meant with the EGO AMP buff, Sinclair's Soup has it too but it needs him to actually hit allies with the awakening skill to trigger, so you have a speed and randomness factor limiting it. But yea, between Contempt's passive giving EGO resources on any skill use and Ryoshu getting all these extra attacks (plus Hong giving even more extra attacks) it might be pretty useful, but most story fights already give free ego resources (Mayors, Lei Heng, etc) or you get a story dungeon to stock up, so I'm not sure if it will matter much in the long run. But I said what I said because I was surprised how well Soda actually rolled, I'm used to modern egos rolling worse while being theoretically more useful. I really was just reacting to your attached image rather than the comment itself.
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>>1332588 The old G Corp’s tech were to referred to as biomimetic weapons, Taein’s is a bionic weapon. His key page says it’s from Union Co., the “go-to” shop for ready-made bionic gear. Bio-prostheses are specifically exerted to as behaving “gone out of style” a long time ago, so they shouldn’t be the same thing as bionic weapons. Another difference is that biomimetic weapons transform the body, while bionic weapons are supposed to be attached and easy to replace. Also, U Corp’s tech is more than just food preservation. > Mika: But using U Corp's Singularity to fuse the parts, we can make them work as though they were tailor-made for this bus. > Rodion: U Corp...? I thought their deal was some kind of a food packaging tech? > Rodion: You know, stuff that stops the contents inside from spoiling or changing in any way until you open the packaging? I used to eat a bunch of their canned food... > Rain: Funny, Big Sis said the exact same thing. Some Nests have more than one way of using their Singularity, in case you didn't know. > Faust: ...If the working principle is the same, one can always utilize the Singularity's fundamentals to patent a Singularity-based technology at A Corp. U Corp is not only known for its stasis preservation packaging but also for its resonance tuning fork. Union Corp probably utilizes the resonance tuning fork to fuse the bionic weapons onto customers.
>>1334899 I mean, I referenced U-corp's main gimmick when I mentioned I didn't think the resonance tuning fork (I said 'their singularity") was necessary to attach it to people. Also, I said it was possible that BIonic weapons were something that came about after old Gcorp's singularity went open source after their fall, essentially Biomimetic augments became bionic augments. One is a transformation while the "refined" open source variant is essentially a surgical attachment. They're both organic versions of prosthetics in practice though. However, what we have seen ingame, biomimetic or Bionic, they're seen as dated, inferior, and less preferable compared to prosthetic limbs and bodies. Rare enough that people will mistake you as a monster instead of a human (MOTWE) for having them. So while the service is possible (I have no proof to deny it) I don't know if it is the case. It seems like it would make Bionics too expensive as an augment when Hook Lu's uptie story implies they're cheap in the relative sense and even Ryoshu doubts their quality meaning it isn't just a Hong Lu thing. We also notably stop seeing anyone use Bionics after the Hook Office which were a low tier fight in Ruina. I imagine U-corp probably deals more in multitools and combo weapons, stuff that can only be made thanks to their singularity. Of course, once you start having wings work together, insane possibilities are on the table (Pcorp + Ucorp could probably make absurdly compact combi-items).
>>1336929 I don’t think bionic and biomimetic weapons are the same thing. Taein’s weapon was made from corpses, but that doesn’t mean it’s “organic” in the same way bio-prosthetics are, I think it’s more like Nuovo fabric. There’s no deeper relation between these things aside from being related to the organic, and keep in mind that the augments and weapons the combat staff of all Corps have are always related to their Singularities (in W Corp’s case, to the Singularity they bought from a defunct Wing). Lob Corp had EGO weapons, K Corp makes heavy use of healing ampules, T Corp uses time, and so on. With the old G Corp, their augments are called biomimetic weapons, so the entire theme is on biomimicry and not turning corpses into materials for weapons. There shouldn’t be any relation here with Union CO’s gear. And while the Union Co’s weapons are cheap, that doesn’t mean they’re “out of style”. They’re likely just like any other kind of low-tier workshop offering services to be bottom-rung organizations of the City. We don’t really have a reason to think that resonance tuning forks are that expensive. I’d say it’s probably one of the more affordable products from U Corp, considering that the Molar Boatworks were able to attain it as a tool, and they literally spawned naked with nothing to their name in the trash heaps of U Corp. As for how accessible it is to people in the City, Faust does pretty much define Singularities by how “general” they are, using wish paper as a negative example (wish paper pretty much only being used within J Corp, lacking the “generality” of Singularity products). Sure, some products are the expensive high-end stuff, like K Corp’s healing ampules, but some of them are going to be more accessible to the public.
I pretty sure that Union co. is just some mook office and doesn't have any ties to U Corp. Neither do I think that the tuning fork was used to apply it to Taein since the phase "as if it were made to be" was used repeatably alongside the tuning forks and he had to get used to it.
>>1337201 >I don’t think bionic and biomimetic weapons are the same thing. Taein’s weapon was made from corpses, but that doesn’t mean it’s “organic” in the same way bio-prosthetics are, I think it’s more like Nuovo fabric Taen's book is the most barebones of the hook office books but Hong's uptie story elaborates that the bionic makes him hungry all the time. That leaves it as powered by the body (like deus ex mods) or actively a part of the body (like an additional limb). >Lob Corp had EGO weapons, K Corp makes heavy use of healing ampules, T Corp uses time, and so on. With the old G Corp, their augments are called biomimetic weapons, so the entire theme is on biomimicry and not turning corpses into materials for weapons. There shouldn’t be any relation here with Union CO’s gear. The singularity for nuovo fabric also went open source right? that's why the carnival have it. Even enhancement tattoos are an old singularity that became open source and has since evolved beyond its use as a wing singularity. We have kk tattoos that make your skin diamond hard, and we have unique middle tattoos that make you incredibly strong. The difficulty of discussing this is that anything that isn't a wing exclusive could be the product of multiple old singularities. >And while the Union Co’s weapons are cheap, that doesn’t mean they’re “out of style”. They’re likely just like any other kind of low-tier workshop offering services to be bottom-rung organizations of the City. Skimming the ruina books, Biomics basically refer to any augment that isn't classified as a prosthetic. So a super powerful heart that or adrenal glands that enable super strength and endurance would be bionics while replacing your heart with a mechanical pump would be a prosthetic. So in the sense of actual augments, they're fully still in style. However in the sense of combat limbs, especially additional limbs it seems like Prosthetics (Gaze office) are generally preferred to Bionics. > considering that the Molar Boatworks were able to attain it as a tool, and they literally spawned naked with nothing to their name in the trash heaps of U Corp. Does that really count? They're getting all their costs paid for by Limbus Company, beyond that they were an office getting contracts by wing agents (Myo), they're pretty well off. Also every example of a wing singularity we've seen has been absurdly expensive, even 3 warp tickets are pricey for Myo despite being a Wing Agent Captain. The cheapest singularity we've seen is maybe U-Corp's preservation tech since Rodion mentions using it but Liu Ishmael's uptie story explicitly says it's too expensive for her and she's a higher ranked Fixer than the Molar office. >>1337622 and here the artbook makes clear that they're more organic weapons and that the workshop that made them is low quality and thus wouldn't have access to (non-fallen) singularity tech.
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Ryoshu's new ID looks extremely boring, I'm not really interested, but I'll post numbers as always. Hope we get literally anything interesting between this ID and the upcoming Canto.
Ryōshū's numbers
>>1338661 Yeah there's absolutely nothing interesting about her since she already had one of the maos as an ID. Otherwise it would be MUCH better. This ID is all about the story, not gameplay. And poise x rupture.
>>1338661 Doesn't look very good for Poise without Thoracalgia
>>1338995 5 poise on the guard, 6 on the s2. Functionally much lower unless the rest of the team is carrying poise for her. >>1338661 -1 S1 and S2; --2 S3 is pretty rough. Basically her passive exists to let her trade in her s1 for her block to be poise positive and rupture count neutral. >Block gives ruputre poise and 1 count (beucase nothing to any potnecy defaults 1 count) >unopposed s1 gives 1 additional count which will be spent by the crit. Functionally cashes in on the rupture without wasting count and rewrds the opportunity cost with a cap +50% damage mod on crit (essentially +705). Doin this ensures you'll always have protector's stance active for damage reduction, shield, and poise potency and count. So minimally she's getting 4-5 poise potency per turn, 2-3 poise count per turn. If you can maintain rupture, she's getting 3-14 poise potency per turn. Once she hits 20 poise potency >Her S1 is poise neutral >Her S2 is -1 count >Her S3 is -1 count <Her protective stance can account for this, assuming 1 speed die only. Shame that the only way she really has to activate her assist attack s3 via retreat mechanics is relying on Xichunmael. All in all, she seems designed for Slot 7 like Ishmael is designed for Slot 6 and the Roosters are designed for Back Ups 8 and 9. So Basically: >1 Lord Hong >2 Any Adept (Maust outside MD) >3 Mao Outis >4 Si Rodion/Gregor >5 Si Gregor/Rodion >6 Xichunmael >7 Daiyshu <8 Adept Heath <9 You Sinclair <10 Wu Don <11 Spare Adept But you're probably better off running Lord Lu Moast Maoshu Maoutis Sidion Sigor Daishu then roosters, Xichun, etc... since you're just focusing on the Mao applying count while everyone else does damage while minimizing how much rupture count they waste. Probably use Xichun instead of the You so you can keep swapping between her and Daishu in the last slot?
>>1339245 obviously you can't have Maoshu and Daishu at the same time and my indecisive ass kept changing that in my post. Maoshu can cash on on "neutral" hits better with her s1 compared to this unit (3 vs 1), will do better damage on the s3 (4 rupture procs + Deathrite + consistent damage mods on every coin) vs Daishu getting a meaty hit on the final coin. Also Maoshu can combo attack with Lord Lu while Daishu cannot, you can only makes use of her Aiding strike twice via passive or every 3 turns if you're using Xichunmael to switch slots with her with retreat mechanics. However this functionally tanks her poise (they really should program retreats to save status effects) which means she effectively loses all crit based damage mods from he rcrit (which isn't as bad of a loss compared to what Heishu lose from retreat) So yea, MD sloppa more or less but I guess she can act like an EGO resource battery if you trigger her WAW early. But at least she gives Hong Lu an ablative barrier from the backline?
>>1338661 Blind obsession makes her s3 +2 poise positive. Maidshu has aoe and reuse, Rabbit applies alot of count, while Daishu's main focus seems to be her tank, the free second skill, and her pride defense to Res. with. She's worse in pure rupture, an alternate choice in poise teams, but the best in MD because of dual status. In a non-specific team I'd say that she pairs best with Hanaish to generate gloom with. >>1338995 Which thorcalgia? Faust seems better because the +1 poise count each turn letting her stack it up besides her s3 at +20 potency. Ryoshu depends whether the team being run can hit pride ARes. >>1339245 The only way to have her retreat is with Xichunmael's support skill2 times per encounter and that put her at the end of the line meanwhile Lord Lu puts Heishou before other Heishous and Ish puts herself at the front meaning that you'd probably have to enter with [team limit + 1] units. Compared to fluid sac, I'd say that she makes Awe, Contempt the second best ego to use binah on.
>You can see which announcers you don't have, but you don't know what they say. They should let you preview unowned announcers.
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>>1339373 >The only way to have her retreat is with Xichunmael's I know I made it wordy, but I explicitly said she relies on Ishmael for it. Now regarding the actual mechanics of it, unless you're planning for a fight that's going to kill half your team, you're most likely not going to slot in every single backup Heishu, because no fight will last long enough for Hong Lu to get the full use out of all of them. Instead you're going to build around a plan like >Abusing Roosters in a Burn team with Lord hong. or in the context of this conversation <Explicitly building around Xichunmael, Daishu, Lord Hong, and Wei Sang In context that means you have some plan of Ishmael and Ryoshu swapping every 3 turns or so Building around Hong's revive mechanic and Ryoshu's revenge mechanic. and possibly a Hong/Yi sang combo attack eventually followed up by a Yi Sang/Ishmael combo attack. In either case you're probably trying for a rupture count neutral to positive team Of course, I'm assuming an out of MD encounter, inside MD you're using Daishu because she's another poisture unit that will spam overpowered S3s regardless of Lord Hong's intervention. >>1339430 >letting you use the product without pay. You're lucky he doesn't attack the wiki for hosting them.
>>1338661 Also, when will Director learn that everything should be, at least on some skills, net positive? She's Poise and Rupture but she's not since she barely generates Poise Count and doesn't apply enough Rupture Count, again. I wish I could tard wrangle him to forget about MDs when making IDs. Her S1 should giver her +2 Poise Count and apply +2 Rupture Count, and also make S2 apply +1 Rupture Count on Unopposed Attacks to make it potentially neutral. That way you have S1 being positive, S2 being neutral, and S3 being negative to balance it out.
>>1337701 With your first point, I don’t think it really matters that it’s powered by, essentially, “biofuel” (essentially just what energy the body produces), since G Corp’s bio-prostheses caused the bodies of the users to mutate rather than adding an artificial limb. Addressing your second point, it’s not the availability that matters here, but the form. With the tattoo augments that were formerly a Singularity, I’m sure every faction or tattooist has their own personal “recipes” for tattoos, like the Kurokumo’s tattoos should be different from the Middle’s, but they are all still tattoos. What I’m talking about is that the old G Corp’s biomimetic weapons mutated the body while Taein’s bionic weapon forged a weapon from random flesh and was attached to the user’s body. The way they “work” is entirely different. It’s like assuming K Corp’s ampules and H Corp’s boluses are the same because they both heal. Here, you’re making the conclusion that since they both deal with organic matter, they both must be from the same source technology. My argument is that they don’t have a connection beyond the organic, but the way they work is different, G Corp mutating what exists while whatever tech is used for Taein’s bionic weapon simply uses organic matter as material. On your third point, did you mean bionic or biomimetic when you said biomic? I’m unclear on what you’re trying to say here, so I can’t really address your point. I’d appreciate it if you also showed the passage from the art book you’re referencing here. On your last point, wasn’t Molar Boatworks already in operation before Limbus commissioned them for the job to modify the bus? Where as it indicated that all their costs were paid for by Limbus? As for the contracts they were getting, that applied to Molar Office. And we see “cheap” Singularity products like the boluses sold in the Backstreets too, though in H Corp’s case, it’s the specific recipes that are actually important and bolus creation seems more like an “open-source” kind of technique, given that back alley doctors are able to sell them. At any rate, regardless of the price, the reason a Singularity is a Singularity is because the products are widely circulated around the City instead of being a local niche, like the wish paper.
>>1340109 With regard to her poise, she does build it up pretty quickly, gaining poise pot based on rupture from winning clashes with her defensive (so she doesn’t consume rupture count by doing so) or through her S2. It’s a stabler version of Twinhook Greg’s method of building the poise stack, since it can be maintained indefinitely until you choose to consume it. With rupture, she’s actually on the better end for providing rupture pot compared to any other rupture ID, all while remaining count neutral. If you don’t rely on an EGO like Sinclair’s Branch of Knowledge, I’d say she pretty much the best for cheaply raising rupture pot without eating up count. Her Protector’s Stance is granted at combat start and grants its status at turn end, so you only really need to refresh it every third turn to not interrupt the benefits it gives, so every 2nd turn, you can always have Ryoshu use an unopposed S1. Combined with the free S1 she does after every ally attack, that’s potentially 6-9 rupture pot (assuming she always crits) every 2 turns; 2-3 on the turn she guards, then 4-6 on the turn you have her do her S1. You can even just choose to neglect her poise building to settle on a guaranteed 6 pot increase every turn by only replacing her S2s and S3s with her defensive skill and always aiming for an unopposed S1. I would say that, when it comes to just being able to stably build up a rupture stack’s pot, Drifter Ryoshu is the easiest way of doing so while also providing extra utility as a tank. She doesn’t need to clash, so she won’t take the opportunity to build up SP away from those who need it, and she doesn’t consume count unless you use her S2 or S3 (which should only be at the point you want to cash in). She’s basically training wheels for rupture cheesing hard fights, I’d say.
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>>1338661 What a fitting end to such a garbage season. It's been 6 months and little kimmy is still butthurt about maost that he nerfed the hell out of this ryoshu.
>>1340373 Its a lot of words and I think I understand your point or at least will pretend to, thank you. If you think about her as a tank spamming S1s, it does sound decent. Too bad we don't have content she would shine in until they add something new
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>>1340817 Abs there will never be content where she'll shine because project moon nerfs any semblance of difficulty in limbus. Any fight that comes out that can't be beaten with base IDs makes retards scream at project moon that the game is getting "p2w" and makes project moon nerf it to all hell
>>1338661 The way I see it she's just a better maoshu. She has a better s1 since you get 1 extra per turn and a better s2 since the s2 of the maos kinda suck. Her downsides are that maoshu's s3 has a little more power, has deathrite to help fuel zilufaust faster and can combo with lord hong. She's also a little count negative, but you can always just give zilufaust an extra slot outside md if you are lacking count.
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>>1341160 No she's worse than maoshu in everyday as a rupture unit. Maoshu is also faster and has deathrite. Not sure what drugs you're on that made you think she's better. The free s1 every turn is a neat gimmick. But it's nothing compared to maoshu doing a rupture count positive skill 3 for free from lord Hong lu. Lord Hong lu and the heishou are gonna be the peak of power for limbus IDs for the foreseeable future
I don't have anything productive to contribute to the Daiyushu discussion since I'm not experienced enough to properly analyze IDs on paper and I don't have the season 5 hares nor the drifting blade to test stuff myself, but now that the hopefully final season 6 ID is out I've used my guarantee ticket from MD which gave me 50 Faust shards and sharded everyone I didn't have which is Cockcliff and the Thumbs. Gotta say, burn is probably the most fun status team out of the ones I've tried so far (which is burn, pierce poise, Heishou rupture and sinking sort of). It's got IDs that are fun to unga bunga individually but Der Outis also adds some thinking. Plus it just feels more fun to have enemies explode at the end of the turn than getting additional damage on hit.
>>1340527 Chou adept Meursault will save this season. >>1340304 I'd just want her to gain poise count on defense skill use, but with the help of blind obsession her s3 becomes +2 on poise count offsetting the 2x -1 count from s2 and those could be swapped with her defense to negate passive poise decay.
>>1341269 >Maoshu is also faster and has deathrite being fast is not as relevant here since you don't need to win clashes to inflict count and your conditionals are not tied to speed >But it's nothing compared to maoshu doing a rupture count positive skill 3 for free from lord Hong lu. That zilufaust and maoutis can also do instead? You don't lack options for who to combo with lord hong and it's not like you will use his s3 more than twice outside MDE
>>1341444 Damn that's some crazy talk. Burn is literally the most boring status in the game and it's not even close. >>1340527 Surely you are smart enough to not expect things to change next year, right?
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>>1341444 >burn is probably the most fun status team out of the ones I've tried so far Burn is really satisfying to play. A lot of burn IDs have great animations, and it just feels good to use them. It used to be my favorite team until the N Corp Yi Sang/Ryōshū duo became a thing. Now my MD team looks like first pic, Don and Mr. Salt are there so the team counts as bloise for both E.G.O gift fusions, though I’m still debating whether Night Awls Gregor is better than Priest Gregor, since the latter helps Ishy stay sane until we can turn anyone into bullets for Yi Sang. In my opinion Rupture has to be the most annoying status effect. The game isn’t hard enough and the fights aren’t long enough to justify jumping through that many hoops just to get a bit of true damage.
>>1341444 Tremor is really fun too, it consistently gets the more mechanically interesting IDs but that's in part to offset how badly designed tremor as a status is
>>1340109 >Also, when will Director learn that everything should be, at least on some skills, net positive? Never, he designs IDs with the assumption of EGO being spammed and EGO gifts being active. A side effect of no game mode where they aren't artificially making the ids good (even railroad has insane buffs)>>1340304 >On your third point, did you mean bionic or biomimetic when you said biomic? I’m unclear on what you’re trying to say here, so I can’t really address your point. I’d appreciate it if you also showed the passage from the art book you’re referencing here. Bionics are only mentioned in Books of Eri, Taein, Naoki's keypage stories. If you push it you have Maxim's passive which is elaborated on in Meursault's rcorp uptie story. For the actual relevent artbook section, it's already posted here: >>1337622 KJY says the inspiration for bionic weapons is someone who can morph his arm into different weapons from some unamed work (could be parasyte or some other IP) and this clearly inspired the design for Gregor's morphic weaponry. Do you remember the SEA event? The resource grind was canon with them hunting crabs for scrap metal to modify the bus. They received an upfront payment and then after received another payment for the job completion. It was evidentially a significant sum of money. The first conversation between the Molar Office (now workshop) is about how Limbus hired them to do the job and it elaborates how the Molar office reorganized into a workshop. They sold scrap taken from the crabs to other boatworks until they could afford their own boatworks. Regardless, we already know that U-corp's singularity insofar as it is used for food preservation is too expensive for a Liu Association Fixer, so either the tuning fork is an absurdly cheap application in comparison if the literal trash scrap office that came out of the Library broke can afford it, or the cost of using it was fronted by Limbus Company. One seems more likely than the other. Regarding your definition of singularity, that doesn't seem to line up at all with how the game defines them. Warp Corp for example considers their true singularity to be their save state system while the dimensional tear tech is just tech they bought from a failed company. Wish-script is used in the same way Time is used in T-corp, and for that matter we have more examples of J and F corp tech being used in daily life than we do of Tcorp tech. Outside of Tcorp we really only have examples of their tech being used in Lcorp and Wcorp and in the latter case only because Wcorp is gathering time for Tcorp rather than actually making use of the singularity. >>1341613 My personal favorite team is bleed (bloodfiends) mostly because I like how they each have their own role and something to add to the family as a whole like team buffs or enemy debuffs. I also think they have some of the most satisfying animations at their max stacks.
>>1341505 >Burn is literally the most boring status in the game I don't agree at all. Mechanically speaking, the most boring status is probably poise since it doesn't have any gimmicks except some IDs like Maidshu using it like charge and overcapped potency sometimes increasing crit dmg. Burn has darkflame as a unique DPS status and SP manipulation as a common theme between multiple of its IDs. And in terms of how the IDs actually play it's also not hurting for fun ones. >>1341613 >Burn is really satisfying to play. A lot of burn IDs have great animations, and it just feels good to use them. Yep, you get it. And I too enjoy the N corp duo a lot, probably gonna be building my Canto 9 team around them. >In my opinion Rupture has to be the most annoying status effect. The game isn’t hard enough and the fights aren’t long enough to justify jumping through that many hoops just to get a bit of true damage. I agree, it's just a chore to play into building a stack and unlike sinking it doesn't feel satisfying to pop like SL with coin spam or Spicebush with deluge nukes. With the Heishou packs it feels like more of a supplement for conditionals and some extra damage, I think 15/3 had the right idea with making the rupture stack sort of like "charge stored on the enemy", but at the same time I don't actually have strong feeling about any of the 15/3 IDs and doesn't seem like the idea stuck with the devs. >>1341643 >Tremor is really fun too Probably what I'll try to build into next, although I don't have any of the essential E.G.O. I think I'll try to play into scorch with the Thumbs, Hana Ishy, Firegreg using Unbrilliant glory, T corp Outis and the N corp frauds because I like them. >>1342207 >My personal favorite team is bleed (bloodfiends) That will have to wait for me because I missed most of season 5 and only have Priest and Manager.
>>1342259 Honestly I liked the Idea of deathrites. If you have a rupture count negative ID but it inflicts multiple deathrites that give 1 rupture count on hit for fulfilling a conditions i.e. >do a onsesided attack >clash with a defense skill >reach 10 speed >take a hit while shielded >hit with a cracked coin >tremor burst >Crit >Target has negative sanity >Hit enemy with X sin Then you could gamify Rupture where meeting these additional conditions let you hit without reduceing rupture count and give you the gluttony damage equal to rupture potency pay off when it hits 0. Unfortunately they made deathrites all try to have a different effect when activated and then dropped them when Maost scaled to broken levels with them. So the replacement debuffs are just more flat damage. This is why Hanafuda Ish is fun while Gregor feels bad. His assist attacks don't trigger until his passive is active. They're only for finishing off dead enemies, and its once a turn unless you use his guard so you need to actively plan for failure to get the most out of it. But Ishmael, you can purposefully swap her card's color, counter if you can't match colors, sub in an EGO to form a hand and get a bonus point, all of this to charge out her big ultimate attack that refunds itself if it kills early. She's an ID with her own little minigame that rewards you for using it, she'll clash better, do more damage, and tremor burst every turn. She meets her conditionals fairly quickly too. They should make an ID that's good at funding egos, it's clear they want us to use them but its rare for ego to be a better use than the units base skills and they're too costly in resources (except collab egos) to really get much use out of them.
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>>1342259 They had the right idea with 15/3 But it got broken by unnerved talisman sinclair. So project moon stopped making devyat rodya style 15/3.
>>1342569 Yea, 15/3 without talisman would have been a good system, sure, certain egos could have bumped the potency (sinclair's base ego) but that's balanced by resource costs.
>>1342373 As much as it sucks that Maost killed deathrites, I think even isolated from the rupture status they've been doing well with the unique Heishou statuses, the team nails the feel of Hong Lord leading a squad of ragtags that nonetheless all have their roles to fulfill. >This is why Hanafuda Ish is fun while Gregor feels bad Gregor's kit isn't as elegant as Ish and has some weird restrictions like his FUA gimmick being tied to a resource owned passive and not generating sloth resources, but his wound gimmick adds more coherence to hemorrhage and he's still very solid despite some points of awkwardness. >They should make an ID that's good at funding egos, it's clear they want us to use them but its rare for ego to be a better use than the units base skills and they're too costly in resources (except collab egos) to really get much use out of them. It is ironic that a lot of E.G.O are good for status setup but in turn need sin resouce setup and sometimes resonance, as a result they're good in RR, but in the story you mostly use clashing steroids or heals and in MD you mostly use AOE nukes. >>1342569 >talisman sinclair. It's unfortunate how often rupture keeps breaking from balancing blunders.
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I have made $200 on the stock market and I could have made several thousands if I was more reckless, abnormalities for this feel?
>>1345728 You're bald
>>1345728 Old Faith and Promise
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The one with a sentence as it's name.
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>>1345728 Be grateful you made 200 and don't aim higher next time. Hubris and greed is always followed by disaster
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Have a great weekend, limbros!
>>1350849 Ish tetas?
>>1350982 Culo de pez?
>>1350982 Waaay too little freckles Also I have been getting a ton of Hongshu art, was wondering why it did they wait till the uptie story to get drawing though
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>>1231558 >Archives https://pastebin.com/XMS1GQsR (.cc or .moe if it does not load.)
>>1351172 The Artist is a fickle, erratic creature. ...well shit I've lost the rest of my saved Hongshu art, but there was more, I promise
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So what teaser are we gonna get in two days? Was it something that got leaked like daiyushu?
>>1352871 The only interesting thing they could make is the Drifter before the Canto teaser
>>1352871 Standard fare WAW for Yi Sang. Not gonna be a seasonal because I called KJH and told him I banked in all my shards.
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Well, I have every ego and ID at uptie 4 except drifter Shu on account of not having her yet. I have over 4000 boxes just waiting to be halved and now I have plenty of thread crates that are doomed to gather dust. Should I be happy? Accomplished? Smug? I beat the game I guess? I basically have nothing to do until the canto ends.
>>1355668 Welcome to the club, you're like most day 1 players.
>>1355773 >you're like most day 1 players. I am a day 1 player, I just took a lot of breaks. Like not even doing MD for a week or two. So it took me longer to get the resources for it.
>>1357377 >pay-to-continue is here His GREED continues
>>1357377 The true hard mode is finally about to begin, no more nerf.
>>1357974 They will still nerf stuff. Maybe not as fast as in the same day, but KJH will kneel to the complains
>>1357377 I'm against games offering easier alternatives. >but just don't use them Everyone must suffer. BUT, at the very least they made it so I can even disable the pop-up in the settings menu. >>1357974 >>1358032 Best case scenario, they stop nerfing my fights and brain-dead retards fund El Director's MMORPG. Worst case scenario, brain-dead retards keep complaining, they keep nerfing my fights and absolutely nothing changes.
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>>1357377 >level cap increase I sincerely hope that anyone who reached level 200 was just using MD bots without getting banned.
>>1359089 I hit level 117 just doing my dailies from day 1. I even skipped days and occasionally weeks.
>>1358303 >at the very least they made it so I can even disable the pop-up in the settings menu. That's massive. I hate how some gachas have puzzles but the moment you start experimenting with your moves or ponder about something for more a second it keeps showing you a popup saying "HEY, YOU SEEM TO BE STUCK, ARE YOU SUUUUUUURE YOU DON'T WANT TO SKIP THINKING?!"
>>1359089 It's probably addressing random whales reaching the level cap, I don't see MD botters reaching level 200 even if they're a day 1 player with f2p/low spender stamina limits.
>>1359146 They bot md, what else are they gonna spend lunacy on? >>1359143 My biggest concern was getting spooked by the paid revive or accidentally activating it after dropping my phone or something stupid. So I'm happy I'll be able to have it disabled and forgotten.
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>>1359578 >what else are they gonna spend lunacy on? Rolling for walpurgis? Collab stuff? Wanting to get an ID on release? Goddamn retard
>>1359829 >Rolling for walpurgis? >Collab stuff? They're botting, they're already getting every ID for free, they have the rolls for the collab and Walpurgis by default. >Wanting to get an ID on release? Until canto 7 they could do that with sharding. After canto 7 it defeats the purpose of botting MD if they're rolling for every new ID. Maybe put some thought into it before calling others a retard?
>>1359578 The EXP scaling on leveling is ridiculous, I don't have the old level chasers added (I think they showcased Outis, Meursault and Gregor on their banners) but I remember them being around level 160. The EXP requirements are just that huge. In my case, there's also just not enough content in the game worth pushing levels to such a degree for. I'm level 140 and have effectively run out of things to do. I'm set for EXP and Thread for the next ~20 IDs, even after the next Canto level uncap.
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>>1359900 You're saying there is no reason to roll for IDs and that you should waste all your lunacy on enk for mirror dungeon bots. But that's completely wrong
>>1360182 There's a hard limit to the amount of times you can recharge your Enkephalin with Lunacy. Anyone who bots presumably doesn't do it 24 hours a day or they'd have been banned by now. So no, I stand by my stance, why wouldn't they recharge one to three times a day while pocketing their remaining Lunacy for walpurgis or Collab banners? Even doing this, they'd have tens of thousands to even one hundred thousand plus lunacy if they were a day 1 player, depending on their luck with the little rolling they do. Anon I never said a real player shouldn't roll (for limited banners) I said that a botting player would have an excess of lunacy to spend to recharge their enkephalin, AS AN OPTION that a normal player would never have. When you have nothing to roll for, the lunacy builds up, I would know because even I have a lot despite rolling to pity every Walpurgis. Even i just wait a week and shard the seasonals, otherwise I'd just be wasting my boxes and I'm already going to lose thousands of them with the season ending.
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There are only 3 uses for (free) lunacy. >Do a 10 roll like a luckGOD >Do a 200 roll for a guarantee in a limited banner (at least 3 pieces in the banner) >Refill enkephalin Anything else is for clerks.
>>1361149 Basically this, couldn't have said it better. >>1359968 I'll bow to your superior Manager level as the expert. On a side note, feels like I'm regretting leveling up IDs more than anything nowadays. Unless they're OP or stupid fun to use it mostly ends up being a waste of tickets. My supply started to skyrocket when i stopped bothering to max level every new ID out of habit. Will still max uptie of course, they really need to add a feature to scale down their levels if they want to push team killing and ally death as a mechanic.
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>>1362837 RRR! Rodya R Reindeer (Christmas edition)
>>1362837 It's a good thing Rcorp units are allowed to be good, unlike Wshitters. Still, how the fuck do you explain the decoration.
>>1362837 Reindeer Rodion was not on my bingo card. How about you? Incidentally, barring a captain (Faust) that should be the last of Reindeer IDs for us unless we get multiple Ids for Rcorp per sinner. >>1362885 Reindeer are allowed to be good while being the only IDs with a programmed chance to teamkill if you don't meet their conditionals.
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>>1362837 rodtent to end the season, as it should be
>>1362837 >another reindeer 'tis the season
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>>1362837 >another sinking charge ID for Rodya Alright then
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>>1362837 What were they thinking, a sinking/charge ID for a sinner that just recently got a sinking/charge ID
>>1363908 Tis the season and they needed to make one wearing the helmet.
>>1363908 One is Walpipi so they're adding a budget version for newbabs
>>1363997 Why is the second rodya looking at me like that
>>1364028 POV: You're a freshly fried piece of chicken and caught her attention. Also I thought normal Christmas was not a thing anymore and just some outskirt shit. Or maybe I'm losing the plot. There's been too many christmas related things in this game.
>>1364042 Christmas was celebrated in sinclair's house and he's in a nest.
>>1364042 Like >>1364071 said, Christmas is still a thing in The City™, what Christmas means/represents/entails is up to debate, however.
>>1364042 Vergil, Kromer, Sinclair all practiced Christmas. Devyat have a Christmas themed mascot (who may not exist) the Red Sack The rest of the Sinners are aware of Christmas, around half of them live or lived in nests.
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>>1363948 Calw was in the backstreets, but your point remains.
>>1365262 Pretty sure Calw is part of K Corp's nest, anon.
>>1365514 Yeah I'm wrong. For some reason I thought the checkpoint was for checking cross-district immigration and not outer-inner immigration.
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I am rather fond of Malkuth. What are you guys favorite sephirot?
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>>1366947 Lobotomy Malkuth Ruina Binah I mainly switched my favorite because she left the basement and interacted with the others.
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I hope that when Rodya's ID drops, they finally give Ish and Hong Lu their reindeer helmets. It feels weird that only Heathcliff and Mr. Salt get to use theirs.
>>1368897 They keep making Reindeer because it's the only successful Rcorp ID they've made. I put together a kit for a modernized Rabbit that would work and probably be fun to play but I cannot for the life of me put together a Rhino that is both simple and accounts for Meursault's shitty kit.
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>>1369253 >because it's the only successful Rcorp ID they've made I'm assuming you're not considering the rabbit as 'successful' because he broke the fucking game? If that's the case, wouldn't it be because of the 4 fucking fragile on a high speed unit?
>>1369517 1. You need 5+ charge and to activate his passive to reach 4-8 speed. He's not that fast on his own. (Cinq Sinclair is 4-8 baseline for example) 2. He's feast or famine, his S1 and S2 are wet farts unless you're using his Zayin, and sure, one use of his Zayin (bonus for a kill) it is quite a feast, 1-3, 3 haste for the easy coin conditionals but... 3. His S3 is just ridiculous in comparison to the rest of his kit, 4 fragile on the first two coins, rolling 23 with the speed conditional met, higher if you used bodysack first. He's not a bleed ID, not a rupture ID, he's the +4 Fragile 23 rolling s3 guy. His kit doesn't properly enable himself at all, Concentrated fire and graze the grass are just a waste of ammo, all his conditionals and strength come from 1 use of bodysack and/or triggering the bodysack passive. >1-3 Attk up and 3 haste per turn from use >1-3 Attk up and 1-3 haste per turn from passive. He's a bad as Mao Faust just spamming her s3 and counter. Thanks to this PM is stuck where they can't release a Rabbit ID worse than him but making anything better would be devastating for ID balance, so they avoid releasing anything new. ...That said, I think they're avoiding Rhinos because Meursault inflicts an entire team's worth of bleed count on his own. tl;dr: only Reindeer have a consistent identity, Heathcliff is a schizo Mess and Meursault doesn't feel like a Rhino, he feels like a Melee Rabbit.
>spend all charge count >if at less than 10 charge count target a random unit for an unopposed attack There's a handful of ids that uptie 4 actually saved and Rish is right there at the top
>>1371147 But my funny Ish killing SPECIFICALLY Heathcliff. >>1369924 I see what you mean now, and I misremembered how fast he was, maybe he was really fast in the past, now he's just average. >Heathcliff is a schizo Mess Yeah, I DEFINITELY see what you mean now. >I think they're avoiding Rhinos because Meursault inflicts an entire team's worth of bleed count on his own They could just forget about Rhino Meursault moving forwards, his ID literally tells you he's an outlier, other Rhinos could just be tremor or whatever.
>>1369924 >tl;dr: only Reindeer have a consistent identity, Heathcliff is a schizo Mess and Meursault doesn't feel like a Rhino, he feels like a Melee Rabbit. Yeah, Rhinos are supposed to be one track and borderline retarded punching bags that dish out damage and take it. This one is just the "Accumulate charge and spend" cycle that the W corp IDs get but without the long term benefits. With a flavouring of tanking on the side. Kinda wish he at least got some protection for keeping charge or anything. >B-b-but he gain aggro on UT4 if he has charge! Aggro is LOL worthy at best and never work.
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>>1371820 >it did not Fuck. Here's the link: https://x.com/sunny_212_/status/1999132077397282889 Lots of good art to celebrate Outis' BD.
.se is .st now >>>/site/16664
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>>1371947 Thanks for sharing
>Story spoiler Nice feature.
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>>1371312 >This one is just the "Accumulate charge and spend" cycle that the W corp IDs get but without the long term benefits Rcorp Meursault is also inexplicably faster than Rcorp Heathcliff if they're both activating their passives and reaching their charge conditionals. But yea, he's basically a Warp Corp unit trading Rupture for Bleed count. >Aggro is LOL worthy at best and never work. Assist defense is what aggro should have been and what they refused to give us when Pequod trio dropped. Neither work in human battles, which is unfortunate considering early limbus had unique EGO targeting that DID modify human battle attack orders. >>1371238 >They could just forget about Rhino Meursault moving forwards, his ID literally tells you he's an outlier It's just kind of frustrating, they gave him the gauntlet most likely to limit the size of his sprite (same reason why his Ncorp ID looks proportionally small), which (probably?) led to him being a bleed ID instead of a tremor one. Now they give us giant sprites like Wu Yi Sang or Sancho with her giant lance, and now they're avoiding giving us actual Rhinos that should be tanky tremor units. They really should have just given him a sledgehammer arm and made him a tremor unit. Then again, maybe the reason was gameplay related, but bleed was the one faction that always had a decent team support.
>>1375960 >4th pack reindeer AINT NO WAY SHE'S ACTUALLY CHARGE SINKING
>>1375960 I like the helmet
>>1375960 >>1376094 The face seems to be switching between green and red so it might be a warning indicator or something.
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>>1377368 "Filthy animals" is a lolcalization. Had jihoon been above these sorts of quips or references I'd be annoyed, but I can let it slide this time. It's not like shuckaroonies or the last dante-ism they threw in.
>>1378746 >"Filthy animals" is a lolcalization. I'm aware, I just think it makes a good reaction image.
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>>1382648 >>1386490 thank you qt
>>1388228 What the fuck. The really did give a sinking charge ID to the sinner with the strongest sinking charge ID in the game. And the gimmick? Same as Hongers. Unless that sinking count is GOATED this shit is just pure memery meant to use charge potency, I guess. Maybe getting a S0 ID is just a way to pay a tax.
>>1388329 It's just a S0 christmas ID, for the PDA, At this end of season I don't mind.
>>1388329 Think of it as the freemium version of Kodya. Anyway I don't think you should be looking at Rcorp Reindeer as sinking IDs but rather single target DPS IDs that also do sinking. Sanity, unlike HP is basically capped at 90, so these IDs always deal "enough" sinking damage even with 0 count. They just rely more on their damage mods and coin power for actually dealing damage. >>1388228 Anyway she looks like a mid point between Ishmael's kit and Hong Lu's kit, nice S1 gloom to help Ish trigger her passive for attack power but her mind whip in tied to her s3. They normally lock S1's to 14-15 final power with all coin power, base power mods active. Though it's more rare to have damage mods on the S1 like Reindeer Hong and Fell Bullet Yi sang. Rodya has coin power and damage mods on her S1, as well as Base power form her passive so she might min roll higher than average? She lacks Hong's passive damage mod but might apply more sinking potency than him? As mentioned, she also gets base power from lost HP like Ishmael gets attack power from gloom resonance. She really does feel like a mid point between the two.
>>1388228 She'll play with Gregenheim and Lusciouscliff, just wait for the 'gaks.
Hohenheim and Yuri, we've had surprisingly few Lcorp remnants as characters.
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>>1389391 Testament to how devastating the fall of a Wing is Still can't believe Yuri the clerkoid ended up making it out
>>1390695 She had disappointingly poor survival instincts for an Lcorp employee. That much is certain, but if the Faust ID was anything to go by, she had surprisingly good combat ability for her Fixer Grade, which makes sense since she would have her former wages as a Feather and lcorp apparently paid quite well. But yea, the fate of Yuri compared to Hohenheim is a clear dividing line between cle*ks and agents.
>>1389185 Yeh, my first impression of R Rodya is that she’s basically just an upgraded version of R Ish. Not that the kits are really all that radically different between them all; R Hong Lu really only switches the S2 and S3 of the other two for his own kit. One can only imagine what a 4th Pack Reindeer Captain will do for them once we get one.
>>1392143 I do t think L Remnant Faust is indicative of Yuri’s skills, given how much more powerful some of the Sinners are compared to the person their IDs are based on. Drifting Blade Ryoshu, for example, is probably more powerful than Lin Daiyu, who was barely holding on on her own back during the Hierarch Conpetiton when she got separated from Baochai.
>>1392143 >>1392715 Yeah it seems that Yuri had skill/potential but being a clerk in a probably safe boring minor branch facility didn't bring it out fully. Headquarter agents are probably crazy competent, not just because of the EGO gear training and such, that we know, but also because of having to learn to deal with all kinds of eventualities, unknowns, risk assessment decisions, and mental states just to survive. I think that would translate well into the City.
>>1393218 I mean, the HQ agents were random people who were chosen because they possessed the correct mental states for using EGO, I believe. Hence the example of that one agent Hokma showed X being some girl who failed to qualify for a Corp suddenly receiving an acceptance letter to L Corp one day. Though, if it’s the librarians who’ve attained their collective memories over the numerous cycles they experienced in HQ, even if their initial combat skills were granted to them by EGO gear, I imagine that those granted skills were like training wheels and they did end up learning how to fight in all that time and have probably become quite skilled.
>>1392715 I'm not sure that's far, many IDs are based on characters but weaker than them (Lei Heng, Zilu, Xichun, etc) but that wasn't what I was saying either. I was more suggesting she probably could afford augments/equipment higher than her Fixer grade with the remnants of whatever money she made as a feather and makes up for the general lack of true combat skill with scrappiness. Basically a Hindley situation. Depending on how freely she spent her money, she either had a decent amount of very little when the Wing finally fell. Either way I doubt you can coast long without work in the city. Becoming a Fixer sounds more like a desperation move on her part when no one wanted a discarded feather. >>1393218 Well, they all start with the same kit based on gearless Roland sandbagging. That either puts them as highly skilled but functionally lacking in augments and equipment, or not particularly skilled at all. Still the default pages are more than enough to carry through Canard which already puts them above Yuri's weight class. Not that I'm seriously using gameplay as saying anything about Lore. Like I said previously, I think Yuri is just a scrappy remnant with slightly better equipment (most Fixers her grade are still using baseball bats with barbed wire, their first workshop weapon, or still have 0 augments like Finn).
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>hello, I am here to let everyone know I'm an abused, beaten housewife >>1393979 >many IDs are based on characters but weaker than them >Not that I'm seriously using gameplay as saying anything about Lore Yeah I was gonna say there was sort of a gameplay explanation through exp and thread being able to bring ids closer to their strength in each of their respective mirror worlds, but ultimately it's a game so that explanation can only go so far
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>anons still can't understand post-C7 Don Quixote's character and aspirations I am aware there is bound to be someone shitposting, but this sort of discussion takes place too often in order to just dismiss it as such. Ironic, the people who pride themselves with being all caught up regarding previous games and the literature cannot fathom something like this, despite it being plainly explained to the reader. Perhaps they need a PM troontuber to spoonfeed them this piece of information through a 2 hour essay-piece on Canto 7?
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> Thank God for this site filter functions.
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At least I share good artwork, faggot.
>Footfaggotry I think not.
>liking a woman's feature is gay I have bad news for you, anon...
>>1397296 Men have feet too... gay.
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>>1397299 Men have tits and ass too. You'd know the difference between the two gender's features if you were straight in the first place.
>>1394899 Was someone misunderstanding her in this thread?
>>1397964 Some people like to bring halfchan shit over here, so I assume someone was being retarded in the other general.
>>1398292 anyone notice Don is drawn as a slut the most out of all sinners?
>>1398298 For good reason. And in actuality it's probably Hongler but that's just anecdotal testimony from some limbabs I know, I never delved into that myself.
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>>1398298 Because don is the most popular sinner? Unless we are talking about per capita measures.
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>>1399591 *SMACK*
>>1399591 thank u qt don't worry
>>1398983 I meant proportion of art, she seems the one with the most softcore porn and random shipping art while other sinners lewd art is at least based on existing IDs and they have pretty consistent ships.
So R Rodya is just R Hong but with slightly better numbers I guess MERRY CHRISTMAS
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>>1400676 dyang yuu fyur pyosdyin wimbyab!!! zenya wyus tyuu byusye tyuudyay tyuu pyos nyid.. sowwee
Sorry, forgot it was funny numbers day Happy Rodya's day
>>1400756 I cannot believe you forgot about our completely average forgettable KWEEN
>>1400756 Looking inot it, seems really good as a generic clash ID. High rolls with conditionals, extra damage on charge. But the sinking is non-existent, she's fully negative so only for MD sinking and keep her away from any sinking teams. She's a slot for Charge MD teams while you slot KoD into the Sinking team.
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>>1400756 I would have considered her a halfway decent Charge ID if her S2 actually gave her 10 charge count for the turn, however both effects on the second coin trigger at once, making her charge count gain ass.
>>1401912 She's a slot for jolly teams.
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>>1400771 To be fair, sometimes I do forget about a sinner, and it's not Rodion I'm sorry, Hong Lu, it's nothing personal >>1402936 Who else goes in the jolly team? besides base Sinclair
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>>1400756 So just checking, due to the order of operations, her S3 will always get the coin power bonus right? As long as you minimally had 5 charge count before using her s3? Because the first on use will give 5 charge count at the cost of self sinking and indiscriminate. then the second one use checks for the coin power conditional and damage mods right? So once Rodya gets 3 charge, it's actually preferable for use her s4 at 5-9 charge count since you could theoretically kill two enemies with the friendly fire turned off. It's irrelevant if you only have one target, in which case you probably want to reach the full damage mods instead right? Though, I doubt any non-boss fight will last long enough for this use case to come up. Mostly because she can't even stack charge potency until 2 gloom 2 envy sin resources have been acquired. They really need to stop tying that effect to passives in this way.
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>>1406515 Yep I knew she was groomed by all fingers to be this super soldier girl. Still though, that's her father? The guy that leaked? Sounds crazy.
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I know that they are different, but they could've made him do a different pose.
>>1406515 I fucking hate ringniggers
>>1406576 EL NIGERO SILENCO?! (forma Index) >>1406515 Cool as fuck, everything is here moment, I'm hoping for more best finger Thumb IDs
I'm excited for the music that'll accompany the canto. The music was greater than Yi Sang's teaser theme which had been at the top for me since it released.
The murder chuuni was always kind of cute, but this a whole 'nother level of adorable >>1406576 El Director loves the 'hands in pockets' pose, but at least Roland had a thematic reason for doing so. I don't mind the hair being similar, but the fact that only his face is covered in thread very much screams 'haha, remember the OTHER game'. Should've been a silhouette covered in thread with some of it burned away on the face imo, but maybe there's a reason for it looking so much like Mr Furioso?
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Had a dream about Canto 9 today. The map was Hell screen themed, quite literally, with burning cliffs and lava rivers. Then there was a big evil castle (a-la Mario) in the middle of the map protected by seals that could be broken by taking down 5 smaller castles representing each of the Fingers. The first part of the story alone had 30 stage nodes.
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*monch* tyim tyuu *nom* dyuu yuur daiwies *nom nom nom* wimbyabs!!!!!! *monch monch monch*
>>1414476 >Then there was a big evil castle (a-la Mario) in the middle of the map protected by seals that could be broken by taking down 5 smaller castles Reminds me of a DOOM map from Eviternity II. Also good concept, but I doubt our merry bunch is strong enough to fight FIVE FUCKING FINGERS IN ONE DISTRICT when we lost to a Capo
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>>1414565 >>1418984 thank you qt
>>1419130 yuur wyecwom wimbyab!!!! yayyy yayyyy!!!! *smooch*
>>1414974 >we lost to a Capo To be fair Lei Heng wasn't just a Capo, he was a Capo IV, ranked directly beneath the Sottocapo...plus one of the Ten Blades of the East. That being said, I have no doubt we're gonna get our teeth kicked in by someone worse next Canto and the asspain when people get filtered again by a fight that's (hopefully) not gonna be nerfed an hour after release is gonna be great I just want some index, ring, and pinky(?) mooks to kill to complete the set.
>>1421273 >no new gamemode boo
>>1421505 Don't worry, MDU (ultra) will come somewhere in July.
>>1421539 >MDU will require you to go through all 15 floors to have a go at it. It takes long enough for MDI for me to consider not doing it leisurely.
Finally I have all ego and identities at ut4 level 55 I have finally beaten Limbus Company until season 7 in 2 weeks
>>1421273 My eye's played tricks on me and I thought I saw 'uptie V' for a second
>>1422322 >Uptie V lives rent free in /lcg/s head
>>1422322 >>1422917 Aren't the EGOs getting it first? A shit ton of them need to basically double in power + have like 3 keywords just to justify their existence. There's also the problem with ALEPHs which I expect for the first one to be mediocre.
>>1421539 >>1421549 Director better introduce save files for F5 and F10 at that point. Or better yet, some radically different variation of MDE that doesn't just become EGO gift bingo.
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I had really high expectations for Ryōshū's Canto, and so far the teaser has made me genuinely excited. I’m eager to see more. I also find it kind of amusing that the fanart people have been making because of the teaser is already more interesting than all the fanart we got during Hong Lu's Canto. Bonus pictures of Yan and Don because they are really good.
>>1422966 cute ears
>>1423017 Very homosexual opinion.
>>1422917 I can't speak for all of the general, but I'm just disappointed we've had nothing new to spend thread on for a while. It's easily the most abundant resource
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zenya dyid nyod nyodyis dya bwog byepyas dyingie... sowwie wimbyabs...
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>>1431661 Merry Christmas Zenakot poster
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>>1431682 myewwy chwismyus wimbyab!!!! zenya cyand wyaid tyiww tyumyaroww!!!
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Merry Christmas
>>1432468 so cute, looks great
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Merry Christmas /lcg/
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So many christmas Ishies!
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Merry Christmas, you filthy animals!
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Merry Christmas
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>>1432587 >>1432477 >>1431717 >>1432468 >>1431682 Merry Christmas to you all.
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Merry Christmas everyone!
Merry christmas! >>1432468 Cute sosig.
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Merry Christmas fags >>1434848 Thank you Zenya *smooch*
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Dias is the CEO of Limbus Company confirmed
>>1438120 >we were Udjat niggers all along >giving the first Udjat ID to the Udjat member in LCB That explain why Mozes is working with us now, we're on the same payroll I also have no idea how are they going to shove Singleton into Index with the Limbus system >Yi Sang with long hair Yumes are going to freak
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>>1438141 >I also have no idea how are they going to shove Singleton into Index with the Limbus system From what it appears in the trailer, it seems like the index gimmick will be to use the highlighted skills against the marked enemy, it seems like the singleton gimmick is completely ditched as she has only 3 different skills across all her slots
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I feel like the line and thread stuff is another one of the ring's viewpoints like pointillism. My crack theory for the canto is that the pinky spider is Ryoshu and that she somehow raised herself.
So assuming another member of Demian’s group gets introduced in this canto, I’m guessing Ryoshu’s Index Dad will end up being the new blue man? Since the Index are already associated with the color blue. He’d be a fine fit for the “king” as well, since in the story of the Little Prince, the king believed everything moved in accordance with his will. Could see him being a similar case to Yan who believes that the Will of the City is the same as his own will, but didn’t distort over it (at least for now).
~Told you Faust would be an index though I thought she'd be higher ranked and Outis would be our Udyat member~! Also the sword + big ass gun (looks like Atelier workshop make) is such an upgrade over their Ruina version. >>1438120 >>1438141 Feel like we (who read Leviathan and Distortion Detective) already knew that. >>1438141 Looks more like the gameplay will be selecting the skills the prescript tells you to and hitting the chosen enemy, they even showed the blade unlocked effect for them and new prescripts appearing for Faust. This might be a gimmick only for Proselytes though, Proxies and Messengers may get a new gimmick. >>1438169 ditto >>1438477 We haven't seen his face, he very well could be distorted (Yan kept his hair) and now deludes himself into believing the Will of the Prescript is his own will.
>>1438122 Kek the very obvious Udjat Outis ID this soon? Cool. Faust....well those are very clear 00 tier animations. Crazy. I doubt the maost tax has been paid in full. Probably the art will be the only remarkable part of it. >Outis ZAYIN It ain't replacing jackshit aside from resistances. >Heath TETH Something tells me it won't even replace AEDD. As if heath needed another charge ego there. >Yi sang first WAW Mogs the shit out of Shu's in animation. Also this probably means Meursault will be our first ALEPH BP ego. >Fae lantern, passenger and DEFRAUDED Ebony's queen apple I hope it delivers.
>>1438122 Outis looks slick, though she's tremor sinking and she already has two good tremor ID one of which was just a few months ago so this one's probably focused on sinking and Ryoshu has no sinking so guess I'm building her later in the season. Faust's just a simple clean sword user, not much to say except that it's funny how one of these IDs shares a status archetype with Hanafuda Ishy and the other has sort of similar visuals and a gimmick that evokes the same "follow the plan" feel. Also guess it'd be time to shard Bygone days if I want to use both of them in sinking and keep echoes. Not wowed by Ryoshu's EGO, it looks worse than Contempt, Awe and worse than Yi Sang's counterpart. I can only assume it's another one you'll be corrupting all the time like ToTB.
>>1438556 The new Tremor Ids at least feel pretty good, Gregor isn't as good as Ish but they both do respectable damage and clash well, alongside Contempt/Awe and the Thumb and it's a real nice team. I hope to slot Outis in there or the sinking team (either way she's with Jeong Ish). At the very least they tend to make Ammo Ids pretty good since they can "run out" though no battle really lasts long enough to happen. Faust will probably be an experimental shitshow since Mao tax and Fau tax but maybe her gimmick will be unintentionally strong again. Either way, I hope they learn a lot from her. I want more IDs with their own minigame.
>>1438540 >Feel like we (who read Leviathan and Distortion Detective) already knew that. The writing was on the wall but there was some room for PM to do a twist, but now that we know the Udjat are part of LCA it's 100% confirmed I'm looking forward to seeing how Outis and Gregor react to learning that the Udjat are part of Limbus Company, since they were active during the smoke war
>>1438586 It could be fun to build a rainbow tremor team with C,Ashu, Awl Greg, Hanaish, Udjatis, Lei Sault, Thumbclair and... Ring Sang?
>>1438597 Might be dissapointed, Udyat are classified as LCA which means we already saw Udyat during the "To Claim their Bones" event and Gregor didn't react then. So unless there's a distinct difference between the NPC LCA and NPC Udyat we may see during this canto... who knows?
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The Prescripts demand that Faust pleasures my dick.
>>1438617 If only Ring Sang still counted as an ID of every Status effect. Maybe Director will grow a pair and make the Father Maestro count as all status effects so you can put hi m in every team? Could be funny. >>1439161 Well Messenger Faust is out now. So I guess that leans heavily on Sinclair getting the Yan ID. Still holding out for Gloria Don and Hubert Meursault Proxy IDs, Hong or Yi Sang for Esther. And well, hot I guess. lol.
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Finally...content... Looking forward to the LCA doing pic rel again
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>>1438556 Yeah, the EGO's attacks don't feel all that impactful. It's also weird how the swords just disappear. I'm not talking about with any special effects, they just poof out of existence the next frame. I could go on and on about why I don't like it, personally. I do agree that Yi Sang's looks really nice even though it's basically a looping animation. Here's hoping the corrosion looks really nice even though I'm choosing not buying the BP
I need to decide what to do with my 150 uptie-only shards before the season rolls over. The easiest solution sounds like dumping it all on a TS4 WAW or a couple lower level EGOs, but the question is which...
Ryoshu 1d100 = 45 Index Father 1d100 = 30 >>1450898 I don't think that those are going included in theroll over.
>>1451313 It says so in the patch note, they also have "season 6" in the name
>>1453021 Dunno how good Faust will be but at leats I'm glad the prescript mechanic is more than just "hit X target with Y skill" I bet Outis will be pretty good, The Udjat [Vanguard] seems to be completely busted and not hard at all to maintain. If nothing else she'll be good at eating hits with her face and crippling the enemy
>>1453021 Faust seems fun, I hope that her hp% shield isn't capped, and even if she does eat your sinking count the sp reduction will be good addition to a poise team. Karmic Justice's Icon is a very willful method of suicide. >>1453100 I did not notice that.
>>1453021 I wold like Udjat more if not for the fact they use Khopesh as weapons, they look stupid The Prescript gimmick looks fun, you have to do fulfill specific conditions
>>1453021 I need to see Outis sinking oount first. But otherwise, I love it. >Protection gain out the ass >Way to get a very strong 1st clashing, usually the only one you need to increase the chances of winning bigly >Sheut fracture and other ways to make sinking deal more damage with their skills on their own >Blue sand helping AGAIN with the count Obviously a sinking unit although due to the nature of tremor, having it as a secondary status works, same for burn. Faust...well she's the beta test for index ids. Her count gains for poise and sinking are abysmal dogshit. And that counter shield is probably going to be capped very low. Fun idea, probably going to be a meme.
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>>1453021 >fail the prescript to gain +30% damage Finally, some Hex Nail support!
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>>1453021 Outis' kit looks really good. I don't have much faith in Faust's kit, but that's fine, future Index IDs will probably benefit from her sacrifice. And even if Outis' ID doesn’t end up being as good as it looks, I’m still really eager to get it for the art alone. Overall, I was disappointed by the E.G.Os they showed, except for Yi Sang's, which looks great. Still, I can't wait to see how the corrosions look.
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It's over
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A large bug has infiltrated the thread.
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>>1464779 nyoooo!!! zenya nyis nya gyud byug!!! zenya wyiw cyagh nyaw dya byad byugyies nyan gyif cyandyee tyuu!!!! nyehehe~
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Final predictions for the canto? >Part 1 is Homoheim intervallo tier >Index Father IS the final boss (holding back) >Jia Qui shows up for some reason >Rodya gets the thumb mother >Hongers get the Index father >Either Lord Horikawa or the monkey is the blue schizo of this chapter, or perhaps even Homoheim's boyfriend
I'll soon post Outis and Faust's numbers and then I'll disappear for a couple of days or until I have time to finish the new content.
Some general predictions for the canto >mindbroken yandere Xue Baochai as a midboss >Ryoshu distorts and draws her sword, not necessarily in that order >Spider house finger representatives fight each other instead of us Which district is the gang heading to next anyway? My bets on Q what with all the Yuanchun scheming, but maybe nu-G is an option, cause Meur's canto is next and it's probably gonna be in N. Very much doubt it's I (though I would like to see how fucked up it is post pianist) or C.
just a reminder for you guys to use the story spoiler option if you want to share stuff from the Canto
IT BEGINS
Rodion is the only one to care about important thing
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Mad.
Outis numbers
>>1466115 I'm not adding every single one of your prescripts, Faust, fuck you. They were revealed in the preview anyway.
and we wait again
Prioritizes first, bought the premium Pass
>>1466958 It looks real nice, but I'm not made out of money
The S in S Corp stands for South Korea.
Ahem... ALBINA SEX
The fights against the disciples were fun and the abno rematches were neat. It is a shame that the observation level resets for each variant. >>1467128 Correct. >>1466169 I didn't expect her to max out that quickly. My team was focused on getting the resources for thorcalgia by turn 3 so I didn't have to gamble/wait for s3.
>>1467300 The spoiler setting hides a lot more than I thought it would.
Reminder that all weeklies reset after the update and you have 10 hours to do them all
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I'm still annoyed that after so many months without seeing her, the only image of Charon is this.
I'm guessing Ryoshu wants the Spider Thread to pull her out of her Hell Screen hell.
>>1467128 Her pussy has been transferred to Fascia. If you want to fuck, she’ll want you to stick it into her sword instead.
So all the Apprentices were raised to mimic Ryoshu back when she was in her peak while still at the House of Spiders. I wonder if that’s essentially going to be her gimmick for her highlight ID? Maybe a variation of Manager Don’s enhanced skills, with her switching her “style” based on which Finger IDs she’s fighting alongside?
I really enjoyed the story, can't wait to read the rest. The middle appears for 5 seconds and steals the show anyways, you love to see it. The final fight was fun to play. Ringniggers still deserve to be mutilated but Albina looks cool, I'd put her ID in my hemorrhage team. I wonder what's gonna be the next week's banner.
A solo appeared when checking the new function. I'd wish that they'd let you see your own statistic.
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Happy New Years it's going to be worse than the last one and will keep getting worse
>>1464638 >>1465002 >>1465146 >>1470368 SO cute Happy Happy New Years to you all
>>1468393 With a horse and cart you can go anywhere...!
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Found the time to finish part 1, and I enjoyed it quite a lot. Also, I want my "Hit the apple first turn and still won anyway" award. Also, happy new year and stuff
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Does anyone have a lvl 1 si gregor to share? I wanna sac him but pm decided that de-leveling shouldn't be a thing
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Happy new year bros.
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Happy new years
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Happy new year!
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Just woke up so uh Happy new year you limbniggers
i enjoyed it
This story felt pretty alright but the abno filler at the middle sucked ass. The context was there so I can't fault them for it but the fights blew. Fucking apple being even easier and them giving you a free 25% dmg boost vs the fairy because I guess they didn't trust people to get past this fight for some reason? Also our sinners at the end just watching the woman take the boughs after the fight like they just don't feel like walking 10 steps to at least take a swing was fucking stupid.
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>can't check new fanart because I'm saving the story for the weekend and there could be spoilers there I thank the thread for using the story spoilers feature
>>1473977 Hey hey did you know that this first part has returning AND new characters and the moment when I played it was nice for the most part also also danteh tick tock'd at some point that was fun
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>>1479701 Well, the leak DID say it was something stupid. I suppose this is a named NPC or what?
>>1479763 I think she's most likely based on the Index apprentice, they're the only one we haven't seen yet If so this is Don's first named character ID which is interesting
>>1479701 Same sort of "censor" as Nshu's passive btw. >>1479807 Donqui has an ID based on Donqui.
>>1479807 I'd say that she's not based on an apprentice since she doesn't have a sword. She seems to have an unleashed state with different moves since there were different effects for her attacks.
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>>1479841 >She seems to have an unleashed state with different moves If you go frame by frame she uses claws that look similar to the Index Nursefather's ink weapon
>>1479701 Cutie
>>1479841 Could be wielding an invisible sword, since the attack trails seem to be extending beyond the reach of her arms.
>>1480160 That's what I thought too, maybe they just didn't want to show the sword in the trailer because it's story spoilers somehow?
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Seems to be slightly beyond the range of where her arms would be swinging.
>>1480181 Seems to break her chains in trailer and her swings are like with a sword. So she probably summons her sword after. The fact leaks called her Effloresced Index and the Trailer calls her device and now with the Prescripts align with mine own + glitches and text pop ups... are we getting a Yan or Yan like Id?
She matches up with the Yan Keypage with the shackles and claws. The ink stuff could also be his erosion gunk.
>>1480568 LoRlet speculation: what if the Index got EGO gear extracted from Yan that delivers prescripts via a [Device] as opposed to delivering them by hand via a [Paper slip]?
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>>1480621 Possibly but don't messengers and proxies already have an ear piece that sends prescript orders to them?
>>1480568 If we’re to follow the leak, her Effloresced EGO may simply be closely related to the source concept/Abno Yan’s Distortion is based on. Like how Jumsoon’s Distortion progressed into the Schadenfreude Abno; it’s not that anyone else can never have a Distortopn that’s based on Schadenfreude just because Jumsoon already did. There’s also the case in Distortion Detective where people distorted into balloon-headed people and had their heads pop, so that’s another case of people being able to transform into similar forms.
How would you react if Don has the Blade Unlocked gimmick? and reaching max stacks causes her to lose Rocinante?
Suddenly, I began to fear that the director would tell us that it is possible to have a clone if you let it grow naturally.
>>1481196 A clone grown in a womb is just a twin separated by years. Thus it's revealed Outis is a Dias clone by this method
I'm hoping that some base egos get threadspinning V since Ryoshu might unsheathe. >>1480621 That would make the index one of the most advanced EGO gear devolpers since they derived it from a person. The reason for the device is probably so they can give her the passive "prescipts delivered by device" instead of faust's paperslip passive and have the "Prescipt: [Device] I-IV" status. Prescipts can be given in any format they just need to be on paper and be stamped. It's entirely possible that they can just be read over radio by someone. >>1480709 Wasn't his distortion based on points or moments so he became a spotted lizard without a relation to any abno since he was still himself? I reread that part and it said that schadenfeude was completely seperate and with no relation to the lizard guy two seperate times, however they remain as an existence consumed by and that behaves according to its desire. Aren't the balloon heads just sub-entities
>>1481658 No, you’re right that the abno was a separate entity from Jumsoon, but my point is more that the Abnormality are more like an Archetype. Jumsoon carried that Archetype within himself but was not it, being his own personal interpretation of it, but when he lost his heart and identity, he was reduced to nothing but a carrier for that Archetype. As for the balloon head people, their situation wasn’t described to be like the school, being more like spontaneous Distortions. Anyway, separate from this, I’d like to talk about how different Ryoshu’s flashbacks for each of the Nursefathers were portrayed. When Ryoshu recalled the past after meeting Valencia, there was no image displayed. We only heard Valencia’s voice and the sound of her beating Ryoshu. This gives off the feeling that Ryoshu tried to blank out everything every time she was forced to train with Valencia, wishing to consign it all to oblivion but being unable to forget it entirely. The next one who caused Ryoshu to experience a flashback was the Dihui Star; Dante described that memory as if it were shredded, being hard to make out the details that were sliced up. The second time Ryoshu flashbacked because of the Dihui Star, the image was clearer, perhaps because it was a core memory of hers and the reason for why she hates the House of Spiders. The memories related to the Ring Nursefather are blurry, but understandable to Ryoshu, unlike with the first memory with the Tortoise Spiral, which Dante had to help Ryoshu understand better. Something interesting is that the memory of what I assume is Ryoshu sitting next to her kid while gazing at the moon is also blurry. Makes me wonder if there’s any relation between these, especially considering how the theory of Ryoshu’s sword being her kid has been floating around now. The fact that the memory with the Ring Nursefather was about him talking of how he wanted to make a sword for Ryoshu makes me more suspicious. If we see more blurry memories that could potentially be related to the kid, I suppose it’ll confirm the connection. Last memory is with the Index Nursefather, almost exactly as clear as the memory in which Ryoshu took revenge upon the Dihui Star, but somewhat grainy at its edges. Ryoshu’s obviously being portrayed as still yearning for her connection with her dad somewhere deep inside, so the slightly damaged quality of this memory is probably because of the pain he caused her. Wonder what the memories with the Middle Nursefather will be like. Feels like the Middle would be getting glazed too hard if there was really nothing wrong with Ryoshu’s time with him (outside of moral concerns, but that’s another matter).
I don't think that it has any relation to Yan because I cannot reason out why Don is dressed as a schoolgirl with absolute territory. It'd be neat if he had a cameo, but I don't know where he would fit in nessesarily
>>1482115 Someone on the other thread said the index apprentice is Ryo's daughter because the new Don has a similar hairstyle to the spoilered announcer
>>1482220 **Ish is Hong's sister Don is Ryoshu's daughter Why all the Asians with their European blood family? haha but seriously, think it will be a Xichun Ishmael scenario or just similar circumstances?
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There’s so much good Don fanart that I can’t choose which ones to post. So I won’t. Have some Ish instead.
Likely part 2/3 spoiler (but maybe intentionally available to us): There are multiple discrepencies between theatre CGs and story node CGs, hinting towards cashy-esque retroactive removal and potential mirror world corruption leaking to reality (Alyssa).
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I thought the slash excavation was going to be the ring pointillist guys from the basement since we had the thumb and middle for impact and pierce.
>>1486646 Isn't the title of the season a clue? One part talks about spider thread, but the reflection talks about red thread. Ryoshu wants to cut the spider thread, but isn't she at risk of being trapped into cutting the red thread instead?
Damn she is MUCH taller than I though she would be
Finished part 1. I have trouble parson how anything here relates to the Book, like after reading Wuthering Heights I could easily soiface at Nelly already recognizing her. Here? Nothing, like how does Ryoshu tie into this when she's supposed to be the parent sacrificing her child. There is something with the Pinky's Nursefather that already makes me believe she is Yoshihide and our Ryoshu is the daughter, but what they do with it, I have no idea. They couldn't clone her because of a taboo, so she might be the daughter that supposed to burn? Or they will forge Ryoshu into a sword so her literally being a weapon also count, we just always thought Ryoshu has her daughter, but she might be the soon-to-be-sword daughter. The abno padding in the middle was boring. The other boss fights were cool, slightly disappointed with how easy the last one was compare to how brutally hard the Lucio was, I had to restart 5 time on him. I don't grasp the setup and I'm eager to get more info, since what was shown here was nothing but a massive setup for everything. >>1473689 You can clearly see she's just a hologram, or some other thing. >>1486646 >director is making us use feature we normally don't to hide story clues Nice find, now I want to see what will happen
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>>1491437 Level 60 is so costly...
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Actually I just remembered, there's a ton of exp in the non-looping portion of BP, whatever team I commit to using for part 3 I'll be able to bump up without much trouble.
>>1439543 I was reading Yan's key page story again. This just occurred to me, but referring to them as mannequins with speaker phones, I know he's just dissociating about having killed or caused the deaths of his friends and family due to the prescripts. However, I think the beginning, especially if taken more literally is sort of exactly how Sinclair would feel after doing the same, which is why I think he'd make a nice candidate for a version of Yan, and not because they're actually similar in character. Thoughts on this? I'd love a Gloria ID too, but whoever it is it'll likely be a tag team with IDs of either Hubert or Esther. On the bright side we'd get their announcers still.
>>1494272 >3 coin counter That pleases me >sinking count on crits This displeases me unless her 2nd glitched form inflicts more
>>1494272 Huh, I though it was just a solo page when I saw it on twitter. That poise count is wack. The sinking count is beyond negative as expected. I suppose you use the counter to quickly gain grace of the prescript at low levels? And the [REDACTED] skills probably are all alter-sanity draining bs and that's why she got sanity gain with Unlock? Just like QoH Don really.
>>1494272 >lust s1 Finally, my poise teams really lack any form of lust
>>1494272 >T-the Prescript Must be Fulfilled Anon I too am in the City. >>1494735 I'm certain that the counter'll be used for the Karmic Consequence instead of Grace because of how easy it is to get to no unlock to Unlock I and that it's setting the Grace to a value. That or she has Grace loss in her kit.
>>1494272 Index Counters gaining shield actually solves the problem of non-clashable counters in general. They give you a safety net to take damage and dye to the nature of counters they do better damage than their clashable variants. >>1494195 Well, Gloria Don is dead in the water but getting a unique Index ID from Don is better. This also makes me more hopeful for a Hubert Meursault/Heathcliff, Messenger Sinclair, and Esther Hong L/Yi Sang. >>1494272 So as soon as Don gets her Blade Unlocked Status (capped) she'll get an entirely new set of skills (s1-2, s2-2, s3-2) which presumably will be upgraded versions of her existing skill and probably full of unbreakable coins. Between the prescripts and unlock she'll have a LOT of offense and defense level buffs too. As well as better clashing due to sinking and damage due to crits. So she should be pretty good even if reaching blade unlocked is unrealistic. >>1494735 Personally I don't find poor sinking count to be that much of a negative, unlike other status sanity is always capped at "90" for enemies so even chip SP damage is beneficial. Secondly actually triggering panic isn't ideal for some enemies like bosses because that's the trigger for resetting their SP. The only loss is sinking to HP damage via "Butterflies" or using Sinking Deluge to phase skip or oneshot a boss. But Rodion nearly makes up for count for non-sinking teams all on her own, so on a sinking team I don't think it is that worrysome because we'll always have Rimeshank, Echoes of the manor (Ishmael ego), and Yi Sang's Bygone days to abuse count regardless of the amount the IDs actually inflict. >>1495093 I barely see Charge or Poise as real teams at this point. Charge/Poise feel more like supplementary gameplay mechanics to the core Statuses of Bleed/Burn/Rupture/Sinking. Tremor feels like a supplementary status to be mixed in with one of the core statuses now. A sort of status that exists to ensure coin power conditionals are met when Bleed/Rupture/Sinking gets spent. Given the hybrid status tremors (Hemorrhage, Scorch, etc) this seems to be the way gameplay is going. So <Core Status >Burn >Bleed >Rupture >Sinking <Secondary Status >Tremor <Resource Buff >Ammo >Charge >Poise >Prescript/Unlock >Bloodfeast >etc In a way, this is what it should have always been.
>>1494364 Nah, I’ve seen this pattern before. Since there aren’t any secret statuses being censored, unless she ends up being a second KoD Rodya, she’ll probably be more of a direct damage dealer. Her sinking count infliction will probably be neutral for her enhanced S3 and maybe her S1 too, but negative on her S2. Her primary gimmick has got to revolve around the Prescript and Unlock statuses rather than on sinking stack maintenance, as a number of people tend to hope for. Betting on her gimmick being a super-charged version of all the “duel mechanic” statuses we’ve seen in the past (what the Cinq have, but also QoH Don’s Mark of Villainy) centered around The Prescript’s Target. The little bit of her story we saw in her trailer, of her being commanded to eliminate everyone she’s seen and hasn’t seen, could be the needed context to guess at her skills here. Faust only gained a minor boost for targeting those with the status, but I’m guessing Don will benefit more from it.
>>1495741 >Between the prescripts and unlock she'll have a LOT of offense and defense level buffs too. As well as better clashing due to sinking and damage due to crits. So she should be pretty good even if reaching blade unlocked is unrealistic. I think that’s the point of her counter. We already have KoD Rodya who’s capable of entering her stronger offensive state from the start, so I’m crossing my fingers that the purpose of Don’s counter is to enter her powered up state immediately on the next turn in exchange for massive defensive debuffs that won’t go away for the rest of the encounter. Makes sense as a trade-off for not taking the slow and steady route.
>>1496080 Yea, whatever X is it's probably the level of whatever is needed to reach Unlock-I. So you can just turn 1 set her up to go ham with her enhanced skills and have huge offensive bonuses (and not need to follow the chosen skills) but in turn Don will be a lot more fragile (losing shield on counter, fragile stacks, etc) when she takes hits. Since she's a sinking and poise ID, it might honestly be fine rushing for Blade unlocked, she'll clash well and have inherent damage mods on top of her poise damage mods and sinking enhanced clashing.
>>1496153 Unlock I is just the minimum. Unlock is more like the Bloodfiend IDs’ statuses, having different stages depending on the stack. I think the point of having Don receive Unlock I at turn end when she doesn’t have Unlock is so that it can automatically change stages at the start of the next turn to match how much Grace of the Prescript she received from her counter.
>>1495741 Poise is still very much a core status, if you look at the recent poise IDs they are mostly poise first + whatever other status that is attached to them
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>>1496361 It's a resource status. Does ID 1 having limbillion poise count help IDs 2-7? No. It just means that ID 1 will outscale the other IDs even harder. Now compare even an ID like Mao Faust. >Inflicts Deathrite and rupture count >Massive rupture potency from repeated s3-2 Now everyone else doesn't need to worry about being count negative, everyone else does retarded damage with their skils >Sinking Butteflies lets sinking teams do damage, Sheut Fracture scales off everyone inflicting more potency, Sanity modifying effects help the whole team (Echoes being contagious if you panic them) >Burn Black Flame scales off the team doing potency, Tremor-Scorch scales the same way, Liu ID's activate burn on hit, everyone's coin power scales of burn, many skills spread burn to multiple targets. >Bleed Bloodfiends scale off party bleed damage, IDs scale off target bleed count/potency, any ID having good count/potency benefits the whole team. >Tremor Mostly exists to enhance other statuses now (Burn, Bleed, Sinking) offer a way for those statuses to inflict permanent debuffs (Tremor-Decay) or activate burn/bleed additional times (Tremor-Scorch/Hemorrhage) In comparison, the last time we got an ID that spread poise to allies was what? Blade Lineage Don and Meursault? Before that it was just Captain Ahab. Most IDs don't even benefit from poise past 20 and then it's mostly a game about maintaining count. If one ID has 99/99 potency/count it doesn't activate the poise conditionals for another ID. They have no unique status (except defunct Blade Lineage Faust, who is also a bleed ID) to raise the crit rate or damage of allies nor any way to give each other excess poise/count. They only exist as a "team" inside Mirror Dungeons. Poise alongside charge are the most selfish IDs imaginable. These are not "Primary status effects" these are "Resource gimmicks" like self-tremor and Tianjiu Star's Blade/Battleblood Instinct/Linebreaker stacks. >>1496361 >+ whatever other status that is attached to them That's a point against you. Wcorp >Rupture IDs Rosepanner >Tremor IDs Pequod >Bleed ID Kodya >Sinking Id The only true "Poise ID" is >Blade Lineage. Even Fullstop is more an Ammo/Assist attack duo ID. Their power exists solely from fielding them together and them having ammo. Crits via poise is essentially an after thought since they hit 100% crit instantly and they have no benefit for being fielded with other poise IDs but they do benefit from other pierce IDs. Charge IDs are basically >Multicrack >QoH Don Multicrack actually has a way to give party members charge with Heathcliff and they properly scale off charge potency but Don Quixote is more an Envy resonance ID like the Middle (Bleed is a nonfactor for middle IDs) Charge/Poise are just resources, you can't build an identity/team around them anymore than you can with Index with Prescript stacks. In fact, depending on how Don interacts with Faust, you might be more likely to build a team around prescripts than charge.
Every single defense skill has an issue except evade. Both power guard and power counter have the ability to jobfeed SP to the enemy by losing a clash and lost the ability to offset the enemies defense skills, counter has zero defensive value, and guard is a flat number with no resistance against power creep. The only good shield is the one that scale off of HP% and is gained at or before combat start regardless if it's slapped onto a guard or counter. >Charge Barrier doesn't have a consistant way to apply it on allies and is a flat value >Blubberbubble is resonance dependent and only applies after attack.Why can't they make an ego skill a defense skill? Today's Shy Look did that effectively in ruina. >>1496271 Since Grace of the prescript is capped at 9, she still has the bonus grace generation Faust has baked into the will of the prescript passive, and the grace>Prescript: [Paper Slip] is just converted to grace>unlock>Prescript: [Device] I doubt that they changed the 0~2/2~5/6~8/9 thresholds. In unfocused battles, the counter skill willl accelerate you immediately into having unlock I while gaining Karmic Consequence, but in targeted battle you can just use the marked skill against the marked target. >>1496271 The minimum unlock is no unlock as stated in Prescipt: [Device] I.
>>1496607 Idk why you brought charge out of nowhere but your assessment of them is wrong either way, you can clearly tell which status is the primary one even now that every ID is multistatus for some reason >That's a point against you. These examples you brought are wrong and only reinforce my point tho? W corp doesn't care about rupture for any of their conditionals, even wsang which has the most to do with rupture only cares about charge for his ramp up. Rosespanenr and pequod are ancient IDs that don't even have a coherent design within their own factions Kodya was always a sinking ID anyway since charge is only consequential a bit for part of her s3 >Charge/Poise are just resources, you can't build an identity/team around them anymore than you can with Index with Prescript stacks. So are you telling me I would be better off building a r corp team with sinking support rather than charge? >It's a resource status. Does ID 1 having limbillion poise count help IDs 2-7? No. It just means that ID 1 will outscale the other IDs even harder. Clearly you are looking at this wrong since poise and charge follow a different design than the other statuses as they don't require stacking statuses on the enemy to fulfill their conditionals. Also I don't get why you say they are "selfish" when charge and poise have the most team-wide support for their statuses if you don't count MD for a sec. (and the support is not any less valid just because it's in the form of ego)
Cinq Don is my favourite dual status ID because she's good in both of them.
>>1497025 My favorite is Daiyushu because I can just slot her in any team to get a shit ton of free resources
>>1496985 Anon, I'm only going to give you a short response because I NEED this to be clear to you. <A team exists because the IDs are stronger played together rather than separately Charge and Poise IDs NO NOT get stronger when played together outside of Mirror Dungeon. Therefore they are a resource (like Prescripts, Ammo or Vendetta marks) mechanic rather than a true status effect team. >So are you telling me I would be better off building a r corp team with sinking support rather than charge? Outside Mirror Dungeon? Yes. Charge does nothing for them but Reindeer IDs with Erlking and Linton Greg can feed AEDD very easily (which gives charge count on hit). So yea, they're better in a sinking team, unironically. > follow a different design than the other statuses Yes, it's called they do nothing to help each other and by default are not a team. They have no more synergy than using Lord Hong, Erlking, Sancho, and Nclair together. If you replaced Poise with a unique buff for every poise/charge ID, they wouldn't play any differently than they currently do.
>>1497429 >Charge and Poise IDs NO NOT get stronger when played together outside of Mirror Dungeon But they do? Poise and Charge have specific sin affinity needs that their respective IDs are tailor-made for. They will clearly be stronger together than if you slot them in a team that can't generate any resources for their passives or egos. Again, their design is to get stronger/weaker individually rather than as a team at the same time, but that doesn't mean they don't complement each other or don't have team-wide support.
>>1497545 >Poise and Charge have specific sin affinity needs that their respective IDs are tailor-made for Anon, you're just grasping at straws at this point. Outside of applying Charge barrier to teammates and Outis' Load memes, Charge IDs really don't give a fuck about what team they're on. Poise IDs care even less. Hitting 5 Pride or Envy consistently is also extremely easy with a lot of teams, not to mention that most Poise IDs nowadays want Gluttony instead of Pride anyway (thanks for nothing, Heishous). They straight up do not complement each other.
>>1498896 >Poise Ids care even less. They care infinitely more than charge IDs because of poise decay and negative count skills. Faust can negate the decay with Thorcalgia, while Ryoshu's Thorcalgia can sustain poise count on units with abyssal generation if pride A-res can be hit frequently enough. The more units which are able to benefit from the additional poise generation makes it more worth it to run those egos instead of the alternatives. It is especially true in the case of Faust because Thorcalgia is competing against Fluid Sac. >most poise IDs nowadays want gluttony instead of pride Who does this apply to.
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>>1499258 I suppose I can see how "making X E.G.O worth it" could be considered a benefit of running them as a team, I'll concede that. That said, I honestly run Faust's thoracalgia anyway, since I rarely run teams with good Gloom generation. >Who does this apply to. Regarding their passives: Lord Lu, Si Rodion, Si Gregor, Xichunmael >inb4 they are rupture IDs The last pure poise IDs were the Full Stop Office ones, and out of those two, only Hong Lu truly cares about his own passive. You could count N Corp Yi Sang, but his passive is a meme 99% of the time. Other IDs only require 3 or even less Pride resources. >>1499907 Did you remember to use .st instead of .moe?
>>1499258 In what story fight are you going to have Faust and Ryoshu's Thorcalgia active? The fight should be over by that point. >Just waste 14 Sin resources, turning off all your passives for a fight you should have ended already. <But boss fights Rupture or Sinking (with Kodya and Yi Sang Deluge) would have killed the boss long before you got those EGOs active <Use Superbia! Then I'd use a bleed team and abuse the boss having 18+ coins per turn to deal 100s more HP damage than Poise teams. Hell, Just have a Burn team open up with Magic Bullet, Outis will massively increase the DPT of the team. Good Poise Ids (Fullstop, Si Heishu) don't need EGO to cap out their poise potency or maintain poise count. This is all besides the point that the Poise IDs aren't benefitting from being in a team with other poise IDs, they're benefitting on Faust or Ryoshu equipping a poise EGO. You can throw the good poise IDs into any team and Have Faust and Ryoshu use whatever meta IDs you want and this hybrid (read: random OP IDs) team would have more benefits than poise. >>1499907 bookmark st next time. Moe always gets attacked. >>1499959 Funny thing, Fell Bullet cares about torn memory more than poise, he's entirely self sufficient there. In practice he's a bleed ID that uses torn memory/poise as a resource management mechanic (again my original argument) that's intended to play with Nshu (a tremor/bleed id) to reach their respective full potential. Notice again how they effectively combine to be JUSY a "bleed" team instead of bleed/poise or bleed/tremor. Ryoshu even balances her own resource mechanic with gaze/contempt.
>>1499959 I tried changing the domain, but it didn't impact it for some reason. Updating firefox did though.
>>1499970 >In what story fight are you going to have Faust and Ryoshu's Thorcalgia active? Any fight that lasts longer than 3 turns which is pretty much every fight now >Rupture or Sinking (with Kodya and Yi Sang Deluge) would have killed the boss long before you got those EGOs active You only need 1 turn to build resources for 1 of the thoracalgias with a poise team so you can use them by turn 2. Besides, what boss are you killing in 2 turns now that they take less damage from statuses and have turn skip or status reset so you can't cheese them?
>>1500073 I don't think you can see this message if you don't have access to the site
>>1500877 You can access the site anytime via the onion link, so bookmark it.
>>1500076 You know we can look at story mode stats now right? The best teams turn count wise aren't Poise, they're Tremor, Bleed, Sinking and Rupture teams. Not a "poise team" in sight, because they're shit that have no synergy. The absolute best team is Heishu, not because of Poise or even rupture but because Lord Hong breaks the action economy over his knee with assist attacks, even Ishmael can help but forcing her own retreat for another Heishu to come in with a s3 on turn 3+. If Poise teams were remotely feasible, they'd be on top of the leaderboards, instead it's Sinking, Tremor-Scorch/Hemorrhage, and Rupture (Heishu spam). To belabor the point, the only "Poise Team" is actually a a Pierce team abusing Fullstop + Daiyshu Assist attacks. Since Fullstop dump pierce fragility on the target the entire team benefits from bonus damage. The benefit isn't from them being poise, it's for Pride/Gloom resonance team for Assist attacks, hell you can throw in Captain Ishmael if you level cap her and get even more assist attacks in, finish up with Fell bullet and the Cinq IDs. Since Poise teams can't cycle IDs like Heishu can, can't abuse whistles like Bleed teams can, lack passive SP gain like burn teams, and generally have older, worse clashing Ids than Tremor and Sinking (same thing nowadays really) spamming Poise EGO instead of something useful like Fluid sack is just going to put you behind literally every other team, you'll be 0 or negative SP for longer which again means worse clashing and less damage. Poise is not a realistic team, as previously mentioned the closest to a poise team is built to abuse sin resonance to trigger as many assist attacks per turn as possible on pierce weak enemies while also dumping fragility and pierce fragility on those targets to maximize damage per turn. Poise doesn't factor in. So what's your other option? The painfully outdated Blade Lineage Team? Butler Shu the worst option for native attack weight S2s? The Index which could be better used on a sinking team? Poise is not a team, it is a resource mechanic for select IDs in better team compositions.
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>>1499959 They don't need to care about gluttony to be better poise IDs. I'd say that only Lord Lu is the only one who cares about gluttony for his sin passive if you plan for him to die. The Si are self sufficient, Ishmael is properly I doubt that it was intentional designed around her poise blowing up since she can leave, but Hong Lu is more of a faction ID than any else.
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>>1501490 >If Poise teams were remotely feasible, they'd be on top of the leaderboards, instead it's Sinking, Tremor-Scorch/Hemorrhage, and Rupture (Heishu spam). Way to out yourself that you don't play poise or that you are not a good player. I just got to the top of the leaderboards for the 3 abno refights with my poise team, beating out even the heishouslop. So you must admit that poise is the best status since we are dick-measuring leaderboards rankings now.
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>>1502431 PoiseGODS... I Kneel...
Good to see that the shitstorm on the other site hasn't hit here, this place continues to prove to be the superior one
>>1502431 >Poise Team Look closer >Heishu spam. Look closer >Refresh triggered How many times did you refresh to curate that? Actually come to think of it, how did you find the exact same UID for each boss when there's no search function and it doesn't save your own run? and come to think of it no matter how many times I reset the leaderboard, I never see someone else get a 4 on Faelantern, I did so I know it's possible, but everything else makes me distrust you But fine let's look at it, double slotting Hong Lu for multiple S3 procs from Rodion and Gregor while Ryoshu gets a free follow up every turn is going to kill any boss quickly. And yes, running a slash/gluttony/pride team will actually be effective when <Faelantern is Pride/Slash double FATAL >Wayward is Gluttony Fatal <Ebony Queen is Pride/Wrath/Slash FATAL Sure they're pierce resistant or neutral, but that becomes Fatal after they're staggered so the only skills that are truly ineffective are >Hong and Ryoshu's gloom s1 >Rodion's gloomS3 >Gregor's Envy S3 One broken part or stagger and suddenly these skills are effective again, Hong's at least cancels out the gloom resist due to slash fatal. So congratulations, you understand the concept of counterplaying the fight. The examples are even playing at level cap instead level 55. Anyway some poor bastard is going to see this team getting a 4 turner on faelantern in their stats and wonder what the fuck I'm even doing but hey I guess some eclectic combo of charge, poise, and bleed Ids is just as good as your dedicated "poise team"? <I even made sure to only slot in 6 units Nope, the only thing that mattered was getting the blue S2s and maxxing SP early to roll heads. The boss was perpetually staggered so this is 100% damage button friendly. anyway, I got curious and it looks like you're just making shit up too, had a little fun in paint did you? Tell you what, one little video and I'll believe you. >>1502711 What the hell is going on over there? The leaks? I didn't see anything but I saw a lot of comments freaking out.


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