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/zzz/ - Zenless Zone Zero General Anonymous 11/15/2025 (Sat) 02:59:58 Id: 7a0be0 No. 1248850
Previous: >>1246047 >News Version 2.4 Special Program https://youtu.be/hMZVmJ8ZGto Agent Record | Banyue https://www.hoyolab.com/article/41700148 Agent Record | Dialyn https://www.hoyolab.com/article/41681910 >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo https://youtu.be/_Zo_zbHmOpI (EN) https://youtu.be/begsPfi50BY (JP) https://youtu.be/G-dkyslN_4s (EN) https://youtu.be/ovdNs4GBg9o (JP) https://youtu.be/NCzUV95VIEI https://youtu.be/CQBbCfxIgnY (EN) https://youtu.be/wutoIFoyZGU (JP) >Upcoming Events for 2.3 https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/160259 All-New Program 10/14 - 11/25 The Inverted Night Lantern 10/14 - 11/24 When Dreams Remain Unfinished 10/17 - 11/24 SNAP! Shining Strike 10/22 - 11/10 Timesworn Hills Explorer's Guide 10/14 - 11/26 Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 10/29 - 11/03 "En-Nah" Into Your Lap 11/05 - 11/25 Chronicle of Counseling 11/05 - 11/17 141 Eco Art Exhibition 11/12 - 11/24 Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 11/19 - 11/24 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online) https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption ZENLESSGIFT ZZZ23SWEETILY KRAMPUS >Resources and useful links https://rentry.org/zzzlinks https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends https://interknot-network.com >/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
>Defense is still just a worse version of other classes They really don't know what to do with it
I don't even want a zhao id anymore.
erm
>>1248857 Just make them the tank class for the Coop-op mode.
>>1248859 horrible
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now that dupes are confirmed for coop, I want to see a Seed + Seed + Seed team for the perpetual engine team that just recharges everyone's energy.
Slaping iD's ass and tits
How the fuck do you even win with a triple Astra team in co-op
Extremely true, dude
>>1248839 you're right, qingyi performs her role just fine without her additional unlike lighter, but having it active does make a huge difference. you get a free lucy buff and extra daze output, the former being really important for a field time hog. reposting for posterity
TAKE YOUR BETS Is Zhao a normal limited agent? Or is she a free agent like Harumasma?
Playing monopoly with my id
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Little Miss Zhao shall be the SAVIOR of the Defender class and she will deal a KRAMPUSILLION damage. You MUST believe.
Wait let me try that again >>1248467 Extremely true, dude
What did I miss did beta start already?
>>1248868 slowly
>>1248874 It's too late we melty
That's the wrong blue haired ID, but still very cute
Zhao in 1 hour
now that Creator is dead who's gonna be new villain faction? TOPS?
>>1248878 Beta update went out, but the server is not back up yet. Animations soon.
>>1248878 files are up on hakushin atm, no footage yet
3 manato pulling this move
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>>1248878 The most important thing is Zhao's official 2D render
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>>1248881 Hold fast! DO NOT MELTY!!
>>1248891 Too late
My ID will continue to lust after Pan and Ben.
>>1248874 I don't even know what to think about her mindscapes her multipliers better carry her like people are saying
Oh she's support? Why the fuck did I pull Lucia then god damn it
>>1248889 cinema
Login to get free Login to get free
>>1248891 Far too late.
>>1248874 If she's free I'm pulling M1
>>1248894 A lot of buffs apply to herself and her multipliers aren't terrible so it's possible. The real issue is that if you want her to be your main dps, then who's gonna activate your supports passives?
Holy shit I FINALLY won a 50/50. Guess sixth time's the charm.
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Co-op team for this feel?
>>1248890 cute, I see that she has a 5sec charge attack for her basic attack, hopefully its not a spin to win move but a meaty chunk kind of damage.
>>1248878 Burnice aftershock+bloom in her new move.
>>1248857 They should lean more into sub-DPS with Defenders if they're still making them another flavour of supportive agents. Supports provide the best buffs, Stunners provide solid buffs and daze, Defenders would provide solid buffs and damage, sounds like a good balance. While we're at that, rework Caesaar and give me the sword and board parry sub-DPS I wanted.
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>>1248895 because you love her and don't want her to be homeless >>1248907 3 frauds?
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>>1248897 FREE ZHAO FREE ZHAO FREE ZHAO
im legitimately curious if a zhao/lycaon/soukaku team would be stronger than the original 1.0 ellen team, if zhao HP to ATK scaling and modifiers are good enough, then I would be satisfied with that
>>1248859 She's really sexy.
>>1248907 Hugo + Hugo + Hugo.
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Banyue's engine got nerfed
>>1248907 The big 3.
>>1248890 AAAAHHHHH CUTE
>Zhao gives herself an ER 6 and some change from her passive >EX only costs 40 energy This has potential. >>1248904 I regret not using my adult card for Orphie Lawrence.
tonight is the night
>>1248922 Apparently his basic and ult too. It's SEED again.
>>1248922 Dialyn m2 got nerfed too apparently, lmao the devs really want people to skip 2.4
Sex with my ID. >>1248843 That was in the context of old Shiyu Defense for one-stun kills. HP has bloated enough that two stuns are needed for most(not all) accounts AND she has access to her ult because of the Decibel changes which makes the daze loss negligible. It's not too relevant in DA because lining up DPS agent ults to stun windows is more important than stun speed. Not that it isn't important, but there's certainly less focus on it.
>>1248922 Sure, fuck it just make him an A-rank at this point.
>>1248885 >>1248887 Ah Zhao files, that explains why previous bread went to like 1060 posts >>1248890 Based, she's a fucking CUTIE >>1248912 Based I love my Burnice and she deserves to burn the world
If Zhao is free you have to M6 her now, since she won't rerun until 2035.
>>1248926 I regret rolling for Lucia Lawrence
>>1248928 >>1248922 Weird. Wasn't he supposedly severely undertuned in the beta? Or was that whole thing fake and gay?
FUCK i wish i could run Zhao as my main dps with Dialyn but I can't activate her passive unless Orphie is in the team and she's already paired with Sanby
I will have sex with Zhao
>>1248922 What the fuck why, there's no reason for that. They didn't even give him easier stack gen for it. >>1248939 It wasn't fake but I guess we'll see if he winds up like Seed.
>>1248939 Apparently Yidhari was better but you never know with high ceiling characters.
>>1248942 puffy
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Lmao what the fuck
Zhao is a homunculus
>>1248870 Not that anon but my experience with Qingyi nowadays is that she often stuns way too fast and I can't get all her enhanced BA stacks in, so I don't mind not getting her AA active at all. Iirc her M1 makes her bar fill quicker but I can't in good conscience spend the pulls on it, I hope they do something about it when they buff her eventually.
>>1248939 >Or was that whole thing fake and gay? probably, people tend to be retarded when it comes to estimating the strength of beta agents. You now remember the "Orphie is a brick" posts, or the same doomposts about half the agents during their beta-periods
>>1248950 they fucking killed him lmao
>>1248939 I only remember hearing how he was supposedly filtering a lot of testers.
>>1248950 For what? People were already gonna skip him for Ye
my id got buffed
With the advent that Zhao may be free unironically I think I'm safe to throw some pulls at Dialyn and go all in on Bernard, still leaves me with enough to guarantee Yebibi and a variable amount of ball funds based on luck.
>>1248956 robots can't sweat.
>>1248950 I'm going to leave the giant CCP shitpost in the feedback and get my account banned calling them a bunch of retarded soulless gooks.
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>>1248957 Hopefully it's all a nothingburger and he turns out fine, but shit like >>1248950 is pretty brutal.
My ID is responsible for the Banny nerfs
>>1248950 they hate him lmao
>>1248950 Penis tariffs just hit
>>1248936 Only a beautiful bastard like da wei himself could have thought of such an evil way to drain all the idolfags of their pulls right before them
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>>1248970 FUCKING Skibidi Hugo. RUINED 1.7, and now this?!
>>1248950 I wasn't anyway
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>>1248970 Hugo stole Krampus's important replacement parts...
>>1248978 you will ignore the robot and pull the rerun FAGGOT
>>1248975 Damian is gonna make Zhao a dps, trust the plan.
kinda funny zhao turned out ice defense and banyue keeps getting nerfed while dialyn is releasing as the strongest stunner ever, krampus is weird because dialyn is carrying the whole faction by herself
>>1248936 Did I miss something, why is everyone saying free Zhao?
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>>1248988 Speculation based on initial beta power level is now gospel truth
>>1248941 ENTER
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I regret rolling ///DAMIO\\\
>>1249002 This ass is AI. I remember it being AI
>>1248980 You know what's interesting, these are all flat buff values, usually you'd see something like "for each point of HP Zhao has increase Attacker ATK by 0.1" or something. Does that mean you can go full DPS build on her without sacrificing buffs?
>>1248980 Is it me or does that M2 look kinda weak?
>>1249004 but why
>>1248988 Speculation based on this: >Weak buffs so far (usually agents start off op in their first beta version) >Generalist support >Slut Voidhunter really wants an Ether Veil agent, which Zhao provides >She's a furry
>>1249004 Shut your whore mouth
>>1248994 Boo. I don't want to hear Orphie style doomposts for the next month and a half. I would like M1 Zhao though.
>>1248950 Is it really bad, regular bad, or minor inconvenience at best?
>>1248966 Of course they can, it's advanced cooling technology. Same logic as why her butt jiggles, it's for reducing impact.
>>1249008 Doesn't mean much when most supports just have to build some attack to max their buffs
>>1249008 I think that's intended, she's supposed to be like Orphie but defender.
>>1249018 You will have to wait until his banner is out to know that
>Does that mean you can go full DPS build on her without sacrificing buffs? I hope so. Her multipliers are pretty good. I just wish she could use a standard stunner/support team
>>1249008 It means they're going to slap a cap on her in a later beta update
>>1249018 >beta multiplier movement Literally irrelevant until live. You now remember Yanagi multiplier nerf doomposting.
>>1249018 Extremely bad. You should MELTY and DOOMPOST now.
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>>1248994 >>1249013 >Speculation gotcha
>>1249018 START DOOMPOSTING NOW
>>1249018 I want to kiss Zhu Yuan.
>>1249031 holy based?
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>>1248801 Here you go
>>1249031 AAAIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>1249031 I hope they fix this mechanic to not feel like ass
>>1249031 God I hope they give it a dedicated button, I hate how tag assist stops me from parrying and swapping.
>>1248950 Fucking why? If he's really bad I might just skip him and keep Manato. It better be because he's getting other buffs like Manato did. >>1249018 We don't know, they did similar shit to Seed but Seed was fucking nuts with aftershock bullshit and like twice the damage she has now. And right now Seed is still really really good.
Is Zhao's core passive tied to her initial Max HP? Or does it include combat HP bonuses
>>1249031 They better use a different fucking button to trigger Tag Assists this time.
>>1249031 Pls tell me it's not what I think it is...
>>1249031 >tag assist characters What does this even mean? Does he mean they're off-fielders? Or are they talking about that GOD AWFUL tag assist mechanic from that gear in lost void?
>>1249031 EW I HATE that mechanic, there better be a way to use tag assist so it actually works and doesn't get me kiled I fucking hated it in HZ
>>1249020 >most supports just have to build some attack to max their buffs On most supports you have to focus on all ATK stats to hit buff cap and maybe if you have god discs and the signature ball pivot into crit stats, on Zhao you could just build crit without sacrificing anything.
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S11 and Grace changes
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>>1249048 >Or are they talking about that GOD AWFUL tag assist mechanic from that gear in lost void? Yes lol
>>1249051 I pray these gooks get stabbed to death when idol release.
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>>1249037 Based. I feel bad for Cheeser though...
>>1249051 Grace Ablooms anything now? Splendid.
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>>1248950 >design one of the coolest looking characters in the entire game >nerf him beyond oblivion on top of being the shortest banner in history with only 12 days to pull him This stirs the primal /pol/ level anger within me
>>1249040 >>1249046 they should put it on LT since it's still unused also I want to bitch that you can't have multiple inputs on one action
>>1249051 So they gutted them? What exactly happened, S11 anon please autistically explain it.
>>1249037 Kino. >>1249042 Says max HP so I guess the latter, usually they specify if it's initial HP. Her w-engine gives 10% combat HP too, should be really good for her DPS.
>>1249061 I think i lost my "LT" key on my keyboard
>>1249062 They were never going to let S11 be comparable to Evelyn at M2
>>1249037 >>1249056 They would be frens thoughbeit
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zhao being ice and yebibi physical just further confirm my idea that the idols will be the new ETHER gods of destruction and that makes me happy
>>1249065 This nigga's keyboard only has 10 buttons.
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>>1249054 No no NOOOO AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeEEEEeeEEEEEeeee
>>1249042 Bros please the beta server isn't even up yet
>>1249069 All three idols will be tag assisters
Just played a 55 min deadlock game glad to see the thread is in chaos Smelling my id's feet
HZ gear enjoyers are winning, first we got adversity characters and now we get tag assist
>>1249075 (wholesomely not sexually)
>>1249075 >>1249077 THIS JIT CRACKS CATS
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>>1249051 >grace now gets a for realsies abloom HOLY....
>>1249075 YOU SICK FUCK
>>1248988 First Defense Agent since Pan Yinhu in 2.0
>>1248969 They're kinda paltry nerfs but why did they even do that in the first place. Do they want him to fail? The x3 buff, was that his passive or what.
>>1249063 Does she want AP or crit though? Farming for substats will feel like shit either way, but still.
>>1249076 Tag assist feels like ass thougj
>>1249037 holy fucking kino
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>>1249051 >Grace Abloom This pleases me
>>1249086 >You now remember 2.2's beta with Orphie >You now remember 1.3's beta with Yanagi Wait until the agent is released, I would say until the patch is released but Orphie got buffed halfway through 2.2's live patch lmao
>>1249066 They should've you can't even target farm her, and it would be nice to be able to buff standards into close to limited territory.
tag assist is dogwater to activate
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Burnice kit.
Doomposting based on vague dataminer babble makes my teeth grind so I'm going to sleep.
I'm still rolling for Zhao no matter what, but I really hope she's not a brick.
Doomposting based on vague dataminer babble makes my cock hard so I'm going to stay up.
>>1249100 >She uses her nitro fuel meter even faster now I'm so happy I have her m1. But i've heard m0 burnice users complain about how frequently they had to refill her meter
>>1249100 Everyone is now Vivian
To be honest as soon as I saw all her clumsy animations I thought they might make her undertuned
Actual Ye Shunguang kit leaks when?
Huh? Grace is a bloons character now? What
>>1249100 Okay this sounds good as fuck, looks like 'Nice will FINALLY be able to do good in her own element.
>>1249108 I know it's more damage but i've heard m0 burnice users complain about how frequently they had to refill her meter* idk how i managed to forget to type that first bit
ok now give miyabi and alice ablooms
>>1249106 It's half of the fun of leaks, majority of times everything that leakers dataminers and theorycrafters say about beta characters is wrong when the game goes live anyway
>>1249062 >>1249066 Why is your first instinct to doompost when you don't know what the changes are? S11 got 30% CDMG from parrying and 30% from her potential unlocked additional ability. Now she just gets 40% from add. ability Grace used to only abloom on shock, now she ablooms on everything. Her 40% electric damage from add. ability dropped to 20% to compensate.
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>>1249112 No, Bibi is the designated Bloons character.
>>1249100 This sounds cool as fuck.
>>1249111 This is all we have so far other than she's a physical attacker. Everything else is just dataminer paraphrasing
>>1249109 That's what happens when you implement a bullshit OP mechanic that just tramps a whole archetype
If I had a nickel for every time an agent I really wanted was a universal defender plug; I'd have two nickels, which means I'd have more money than Nicole.
>>1249094 I wasn't here for Yanagi, but I was around for >Hugo's shitshow patch changes still mad he's not an ultimate spammer with puffer electro >Seed's changes She got nerfed to shit but holy fuck was it needed given how busted Seed is and still is. Would've liked those aftershocks intact tho. >Orphie Yeah she was clunky as fuck and then they reworked her movement and EX special to be ultra good. I was pulling anyway so I didn't mind but still
I'm just wondering what lore wise lets zhao create an ether veil, moon rabbit magic?
>>1249100 Wait so is ER 6 the meta pick now for her? It doubles as AM now essentially is what i'm reading
STOP STEALING MY MECHANICS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THERE IS ONLY ONE REAL ABLOOM
>>1249125 Krampus tech probably
>>1249088 Crit, but she gets ER free so you can probably just build her like you would a rupture agent.
AND (You) GET AN ABLOOM! AND (You) GET AN ABLOOM!! AND (You) GET AN ABLOOM!!!
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>>1249127 >Vivian ID She's gonna stab the devs soon.
>>1249125 I'm wondering why the hell she scales on HP. By now the devs made it very clear HP is stored in the chest, but Zhao is a fucking labubu midget.
>>1249117 >Why is your first instinct to doompost when you don't know what the changes are? That's not what I did, I simply asked if she was gutted. I guess it's a slight nerf but being she gets less cdmg sat and bigger baseline damage which is almost equal to what she lost, perhaps it's better. Hence I asked for the s11 god himself to comment. >Grace used to only abloom on shock, now she ablooms on everything. Her 40% electric damage from add. ability dropped to 20% to compensate. Yeah I wasn't clear on that.
Eous will get Abloom
>>1249136 Her HP is stored in the legs.
>>1249124 Yanagi's was >During the entirety beta SHE'S A FUCKING BRICK AHAHAHA, HOLY FUCK HER DISORDERS DO NO DAMAGE >When her banner dropped HOLY FUCK SHE'S THE MOST OP AGENT IN THE GAME WHAT THE FUCK???
>>1249125 krampus technology
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>>1249115 60% ice resist + unfreezable on all bosses hope you rike
>>1249136 She gets a big Zhao transformation when her ankle monitor breaks.
>>1249142 Proof that you should just roll who you like above all else, this happens every single time
>>1249125 Maybe she utilized the data you collected from Master Lumin and her W-Engine is a Lumin Box of sorts??
>>1249125 The power of M O N E Y, that's what
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Okay but seriously who is the weapon of mass destruction with a sword 3x their height?
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>>1249132 Surely they will rename these abilities at some point.
>>1249127 WHORE
>>1249142 I guess it's just more extreme because 1. Banyue had some concerning data regarding his performance in endgame with retard betaplayers 2. His banner got cut Similar things happened with Manato and we're still dealing with how strong he is compared to other A ranks.
Am I missing something from Zhao's kit or do her Ice points not do anything?
>>1249150 Her sword is clearly covered with Ice-infused Lumite Or as she likes to call it Moonjade
>>1249125 What lore? It's purely a gameplay mechanic.
>>1249159 it hasn't even been an hour dude we don't know shit
>>1249149 to be fair, if anyone cared about Harumasa he probably would have been doomposted after he released
>>1249158 >Similar things happened with Manato Actually from what I remember he kept getting buffs and everyone was just saying "any second now, just look at Pulchra"
>>1249159 Downgrade core
>>1249158 No dude, it's the exact same thing with Nagi. Nagi got nerfed and nerfed during her beta, and people kept screaming about how she's already a brick without the nerfs. And then she ended up as the most OP DPS agent in the game when she was released, and it wasn't just because of shilling, her status in the meta lasted a long time. When it comes to numbers in betas, people are fucking retarded
I just saw the word ((("concerning"))) and now i have testicle cancer
>>1249172 That's pretty concerning bro you should probably get that looked at
>>1249159 Ice points charge her ether veil Activating ether veil triggers quick assist On quick assist she'll charge off-field Once she's done charging, next time she EBAs, chain attacks, or defensive assists in she'll do additional damage based on her HP.
>>1249176 And when I say on quick assist, I mean when she triggers quick assist for another teammate.
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>>1249155 Was it not Shunguang and her Unlimited Blade Works?
>>1249159 seems to be used for her tag assist, assuming thats what "Entry Skill" means
>>1249155 Yutane
I'll go to sleep and I expect to wake up to a free zhao announcement
>>1249155 ENTER DA PAN When he pulls out his sword, his body shrinks but the sword stays the same size.
>>1249167 He kept getting buffs and Manato chads like me were like >I used to pray for times like these. Then he got a big nerf which was hope destroying. Then one last big buff, which made him servicable which now I guess he's worse than S11 who herself is now 25%-45% worse than Eve if they both have Heartstring and are at m6? The worst he got hit was losing 5% from his ignite and losing his crit chance from core passives and getting hp% with useless attack + >>1249170 Well yeah, it was the same with Seed but Seed was also way WAY fucking strong, same with Dailyn where the nerfs are needed. I think us who were interested in Banyue are simply CONCERNED because of beta tester reports. I wish we had one of us on test center to demo things. The niggas they got are RETARDS.
If zhao ends up not being free it will be really funny
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I'll go to sleep and I expect to wake up
why would zhao be free?
i'm cumcernedddddddddddddd
>>1249192 You won't
>>1249193 Bunnies breed like crazy, they have to let them out or they overcrowd. I hope she really is free I would use her with Manato
>>1249193 why isn't your apng moving? these are the real questions
>>1249188 Nigga i'm also planning on rolling him, which is why I'm telling you that being CONCERNED over numbers in a beta is a waste of brain power. Simply just wait
CONCERNING
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>>1249200 >Zhao will be free guys <Yeah I bet she'll be free
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Stop being concerned!
>>1249202 I've got nothing else to do but drink and be CONCERNED because YIDHARIS SLOW ASS FAT ASS OCTOBUTT IS KILLING THE GAME I already 9 starred DEAD ASS and I have nothing to do till Monday when I gotta work again and she'll still be in the signal search while I accrue poly. >>1249213 I will pay her in CARROTS
>>1249211 We've already seen her model for the past 2 patches. SHOW US NEW STUFF
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Do not expect shungus animations today btw
>>1249211 cam on post the videos
>>1249211 [BUNNER SPOTTED]
>>1249221 I'm waiting for Burnice and Zhao tho.
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WHOREEEE!!!!!
>>1249188 I used to be susceptible to beta doomposting when I was green in gachashit a.k.a. when ZZZ first came out but by now it's just white noise to me. The most recent example is how Orphie was doomposted as literally usuable with anyone other than Sanby and Seed up until her banner went live, then lo and behond she's just fine in any team and gets turbocharged into an off-field main DPS when paired with Sanby.
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>>1249229 it's kind of ///concerning\\\ that shungite is actually a SLUT
>>1249120 >Ether Veil Are they really going to make a character that is glued to the hip of another and release them on the same patch AGAIN? First Yixuan and Fufu, then Yuzuha and Alice, then Seed and Orphie, currently Lucia and Yidhari, probably Dialyn and Banyue... I am so fucking tired, man. I can't even save enough to get a wengine every now and then.
>>1249134 w-we will get you double alboom pls wait
Zhu slopper can you slop us a (((CONCERNED))) Zhu?
>>1249235 Use lucia
>>1249234 oh FUCKKKKKKKKKKK THAT'S CUTE
>>1249235 But actually all of those agents have very very viable cope options outside of eachother aside from yiddy (even then it isnt horrible)
>>1249234 >Slow run speed in overworld SHE'S A BRICK
>>1249234 >Bunny skippity hops Holy CUTE
>>1249230 I didn't believe it with Orphie or Seed because they were nuts on TC and even when they nerfed them it did nothing. Bit different with Banyue given where he's at right now. I know if he sucks they will buff him like Anby and Joe.
>>1249234 LOOOK AT HER GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>1249234 Oh my fucking god
>>1249234 ah... yea i'm not a big fan of the hopping, too silly Wasn't she supposed to be a "real lider" and serious, commanding her team in the last story patch? tbh i skipped most of it, so
>>1249234 >that fucking slow MOVE FASTER YOU FUCKING MIDGET
>>1249234 >>1249247 you ///NEED\\\ her
>>1249234 >Flashes her panties everytime she hops She wants it so bad
>>1249247 >Menu Upskirts Hahaha yes YES!
>>1249251 >tbh i skipped most of it
>>1249247 Holy smug
>>1249234 THE MOST FEARED WOMEN IN TOPS
>>1249247 seeing her face emote up close... it actually gives me some uncanny valley feeling... she looks weird
Stupid fucking gooks just had to kill the game with this retarded gookmonk shit that just randomly went nowhere from 2.0 till 2.4 and will just shit the bed since no one gives a fuck anymore. Even the bugmen players are fedup with this fishtown crap and now they just keep fucking over everything out of head up their own asses. I hate how Tribe Nine died because retarded jap monkies decided to kill the game that actual had a planned out story while this shit just limped around like a drunk and ruined all reputation it had for the last year. Honestly just end the shit already since these retards cannot make anything decent anymore.
>>1249234 Woodlands creature prancing about with whimsy >>1249247 Holy fucking smug. Her eyes are really expressive.
>(1)
... woah
>>1249261 Ok at least you're not concerned though
>>1249261 Uh bwo? this is a chink gacha, I think your gook gacha is in another tab
New DA boss changes
Concerning.
Does M0W1 Zhao replace Soukaku in her current state for permastun Miyabi? From her core: 60 AP 30%DMG From her w-engine 10% Combat ATK 40% Crit DMG This looks good, no? Question is, does she have good anomaly buildup?
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A GOD OF DEATH A WALKING DISASTER
>>1249268 HARIN AND GRACE ARE BOSSES NOW? Holy fuck.... those are some serious buffs, Hoyo
WAIT FOR THE ANIMATED VIDEO BEFORE SAYING "HURR DURR A-RANK"
>>1249261 Lmao get fucked tribe cuck
>>1249271 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>1249278 She's up on Hakush bwo we already know she's S.
>>1249247 the sword sit upskirt is cute
>>1249278 OH FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK I'M FUCKING CONCERNEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>1249271 HURR DURR A-RANK
>>1249272 >>1249277 Sorry I'm retarded
>>1249286 >Rupture is over I can tell this is a gacha CC discord server
>>1249234 Adorable.
Zhao...what is this order
>>1249286 >rupture is over
>>1249271 >dripped before Yebibi Ok, that confirms it, double 5 week banner like Asaba and Mibibi.
>>1249271 Wait, is she's going to be the 1st banner or we're really having a free Zhao?
I'm rolling Zhaobubu regardless of her rank
>>1249287 >The Unbeaten Legend
>>1249202 You are delusional if you think these bugmen are going to buff him at all like they did with Yanagi. I'm going to roll him still as well and pass on 2.5 since these gookmonks, besides Banyue and Pan, are a fucking bore and just need to be written out already. Pan is interesting because he was a hollow raider and that has 1.x vibe alone and Banyue has the former war machine aspect. Everyone else has been a bore, except Komano who is a good character.
They already did the same exact thing with dialyn and banyue before >A RANK A RANK A RANKS LMAO ZHAOKEKS https://x.com/ZZZ_EN/status/1976950905971806210 https://x.com/ZZZ_EN/status/1977222696447439131
>Bunny dripped before shungus just like how harumasa was dripped before miyabi Yep I know believe she is free, sorry for doubting you anons
>>1249306 >my butt is more ferocious than it appears
>>1249302 You have your slurs jumbled up >Gook Korean >Chink Chinese >Nip Japanese Get em right. We have standards /here/
>>1248950 Woke up from a nap and started laughing hysterically at this. Had zero intention to pull him after Hoyo pretty much stacked every banner from 2.5 on, but still.
>>1249304 A ranks don't have live2d drip
>>1249302 You are a retarded and a faggot
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Whomst did it best?
>>1249300 >The Unbeaten Legend vs >The Undefeated Champion Who would win?
>>1249314 >>1249313 i think you misunderstood that anon
>>1249313 >>1249314 Nigga Im saying they posted the regular image right before the animated video for both of them
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>>1249234 >>1249247 Chat, is this some kind of new chat feature visible in the top right?
>>1249307 and anons actually thought they had the balls to make her a void hunter
>>1249322 Guild chat
>>1249318 >>1249320 My bad, I don't use Xitter, I only saw the animated one on Youtube.
All of you are getting raped by my id refined by sarah
>>1249306 >>1249305 >>1249304 I don't know anyone who expected her to be an actual A-rank.
>>1249329 KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>1249326 Kino but looks a bit unfinished.
hahahaahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
>>1249316 jp has the smoothest voice
>>1249329 LETS GOOOOOOOO
>>1249326 It's perfect, ship it as is.
no one will pay attention to my post but i just realized that the dev said there would be more krampus members after 2.5, which means the damian dream is still real
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>>1249340 Course you would say that
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>>1249326 Here Zhao
Miyazaki....
>>1249347 BNUUY
amazing news
>>1249347 DODOCO
>>1249350 >How will they buff evasive assist? Well...
>>1249307 that also explains the free A-rank defense ball, which would be for the f2ps who don't want to roll for her ball
>>1249347 >moon KUMA YOU SLY DOG
>>1249350 FINALLY evasive assists are worth a shit. My Grace stocks keep going up and up!
>>1249361 We all already saw this bro no upvotes for you
>>1249350 They have grabs to punish infinite guard now?
>>1248871 Why would she ever be given for free? She's not a male.
>>1249361 hate these videos, they never show under the skirt
oh so i have to roll burnice ball and m1 now huh
Drip doesnt hit the same when hakushin already showed it lol we should BAN ALL SPOILERS!
>>1249260 It's the snout. She would've been perfect as a non-beast thiren but the devs were cowards.
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Look at this FUCKING bun.
>>1249375 CYYYUUUUUTEEE
>No Ye Shunguang Save Banner FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK PLEASE DAWEI MY PROXY'S KINDA HOMELESS, MAKE HER FREE
Kinda annoying we have to wait another week to see shungus animations
>>1249247 I NEED HER TO SIT ON MY LAP THE SAME WAY SHE SITS ON THAT SWORD UOGHHHHHHH
>>1249367 ...Unless
>>1249374 Yeah you're probably right, the semi-snout and the obviously human (by anime standards) eyes are off-putting
So uhhh… now what do we wait for
I think it's the lips that look a little weird and her eyes are gigantic
>>1249387 Back to S billy
>>1249387 Ye Shunguang's animations
>>1249260 should have made her nose bigger, like it was in the 2D trailer
We won
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>>1249271 >ZHAO PHASE 1 OF 2.5 HOLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY I'M LEAKINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG AND DRIPPINGGGGGGGGGGGGG
if zhao is truly free then you better get her cinemas because she will never be rerun again just like harumasa who will never EVER return
>>1249234 >>1249247 It's official, Zhao mogs every single Hoyololi in her size range.
>>1249271 why is she seducing me??
>>1249395 Sorry im std free
Ah I just realized, if her charging animation can be interrupted then maybe the interrupt resistance on M1 is to make Zhao on-field better. I don't think any dps needs it since they've got dodges and parries.
>>1249396 Those animations... Show them to me.
>>1249392 Either that or just give her a normal human face, doing the in-between makes it too weird
Ye shungus will die in the first half of 2.5 then be revived that's why zhao is first half
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-xdhJzM2Eo I'm satisfied with the Zhaoshow
>>1249397 They will probably run both zhao and ye at the same time like miyabi and harumasa
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Uuuuugh, Zhao's a defender...God, I hope they have plans to actually make the class good. Caesar was the last Limited defender and she's fallen so far from grace she's being outclassed by fucking Yuzuha for her parries. This is the worst timeline. They should have doubled down on Attack or something.
>Burnice Aftershock + Abloom >Burnice and Vivian triggering each other's ablooms Based schizo team getting better
>>1249411 TRIPLE ABLOOM
>>1249410 She's just a mediocre support at the moment just like how every other defender is a mediocre version of another class
>>1249410 I rolled scissor and her ball I will roll zhao and her ball I'm a Defense Believer
>>1249287 >"Luckily, I could still barely procure her stated price with my skills..." Nearly killed this man in the sack, I fear the power Zhao welds to kill human men without drawing blood or pulling a punch
>>1249234 IT SHOULD BE A CRIME TO BE THAT CUTE
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>>1249422 hello varesa genshin impacto
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>>1249411 >retardation >schizophrenia >autism THE ULTIMATE FIGHTING FORCE...
>>1249422 NO FUCKING WAY
>>1249422 H-HAYAI
>>1249422 LOONEY TOONS AH VARESA AH
>>1249422 GO ZHAO GO GO GO
>>1249422 Won't load for me...
>>1249410 at best I think she will be a super soukaku, who can still deal some damage despite being support, her team flexiblity is also a good point, you can put her with mibibi, ydhari, banyue, seed, orphie, even yuzuha/alice, im sure she will be fun enough
Don't click the link it makes mustard g
THERE ISN'T A SINGLE SKIP BANNER
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>>1249429 YOU FLOPPED THE LINK
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>>1249429 Well shit... welp gotta wait for leakers to do all of it then
Fun deadass >>1249422 fuck, it's going to be hard to skip her
>>1249437 *metal pipe sound effect*
>>1249422 MY SIDES
>>1249438 FUUUUUUUCK=
>>1249422 GOTTA GO FASTER FASTER FASTERFASTERFASTER
>>1249422 Nyah.... what up, Proxy?
>>1249436 Just need to hold off until 2.6.
Dim posted the incomplete animations for zhao on telegram
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>>1249247 >panty flash when she sits on the sword The devs cooked
>>1249438 Ok, here it does look like 3x her size
>>1249453 >Sometimes I think about murder
>>1249422 S-She's fast!
>>1249453 MIHOY MINYON
>Animations don't show tag assist Guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow to see those
>>1249438 TCS BABY
>>1249438 she really is like Orphie, huh
>>1249422 HAYAI
She's so fucking peak man
>>1249422 BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WTF SHE'S LITERALLY SONIC ?!?!?!?!?!
>>1249466 >these animations
Damian is so lucky bros......
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>>1249466 HNNNGGGGGG
>>1249467 damn shes fast.
DOI NOT OPEN
>zhao animations are great >burnice buffs exactly what she needed >devs realize chinaslop sucks and we’re going back to urban style Killing myself will have to wait
>>1249476 I remember that
Can't wait to use her in photo mode
>>1249481 Zhao's the one raping you anon.
>>1249474 she really is a silly billy, glad I skipped and saved for her
Also it just me or is her third menu animation almoat 1:1 with Piper's?
>>1249485 even better!
I do not care about the bunny, just post Yebibi's animations already
Imagine saving for idolslop through this
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>>1249490 She's not in the beta yet. Only a fragment of her kit is in it
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>>1249466 She's beautiful.
>>1249490 Whorebibi is not even playable yet atm.
Test
>>1249490 She's not in the beta come back next week
>>1249419 Sorry, attractive human women only.
>>1249490 big shungus isn't in the beta yet
>>1249479 This is why you never kill urself.
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>>1249493 >more males than females Fucking unacceptable. The defender class needs more affirmative action.
>>1249507 Buff tall red oni defender girl coming in 3.x
>>1249504 unholy actions with this bunny
>>1249507 What are you talking about? It's perfectly equal. Zhao, Caesar Pan, Ben
The walking disaster...
zhaogang at this moment i'm feeling euphoric
LIBERA ME FROM HELL
They said both halves of the patch would have story, they could just be saving Shungus to run when heer part of the story finishes in part 2 of the patch, an Zhao is not free.
>>1249515 they cooked so hard with her its unreal
I think her sword should be larger. It only looks 2.5x bigger and not the promised 3.
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noooooooooooooo i dont want to become a furry
>>1249517 thats what im saying GREAT take you get the great take award
>>1249515 slightly bummed about the whole defense thing, but if her kit synergizes well who cares. still gonna pull cause she looks super fun to play
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>>1249422 THAT BUNNY IS FAST AS LIGHTNING!
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>>1249521 Your Pulchra?
it was written
I'm so happy bros all the waiting all the A rank posting all the class and element speculation We finally made it to the other side and the grass truly is greener ZhaoKeks we made it!
>>1249528 I don't know man, I'm concerned about her small buffs...
>>1249515 I just hope she has a good team where I can play her as dps
>>1249528 and the best news, she's a def agent which means def agents are being completely refactored to be not shit.
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I think Im just going to stick zhao between my orphie and lighter and pretend she deals damage
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Her attacks are so fucking SICK and so fucking CUTE at the same time, holy shit.
Now we wait for the Apel video...
I'm going to use zhao with jujufu to carry a dps
>>1249528 To think, after all that shitposting, we received what we were promised: a shitty "universal" (read: only good new players) support that got put into defense to ensure you have to pull her engine. Truly worth the wait.
>>1249422 Audibly said kino out loud
>>1249533 buddy, Lighter + Lucy + Astra lets you DPS with Lighter at m0w1 with a 46k+ score on fire weak enemies. Lighter + Zhao + Orphie means she'll most likely be as fucking busted, you're fine. Maybe get her ball or m1.
>>1249528 I am not really happy about her being defense but whatever
>>1249528 I can't wait to roll her M6 just so she can be off-field for three seconds longer
I really think doomfaggots should kill themselves btw first it was >aieee shes gonna be A i'm keeping my hecking expectations low then it was >aieee shes gonna be ICE so even if shes dps shes bricked because yeah totally the miyabi anti shilling will exist forever keeping my expectationrinos low now it's >shes hecking defense now what the fuck mannn now i gotta pull her engine and she is guaranteed to do no damage because i know what im talking about based on a v1 kit of a patch that follows a patch that isn't even done with their beta
>>1249539 Technically we weren't promised anything and the past 7 months has just been speculation up until now
>>1249539 They literally only made her defense to make her worse with other team. The class is only used to prevent agents from using certain disks or balls
greentext, you are silly, here's this guy I invented to own
zhao is incomplete and free banyue is nerfed and shot from the back dialyn is fat and greedy after everything, all im here for is a piece of presentable coop gameplay footage
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>>1249545 She does good damage at a glance. I don't know why everyone is only reading the passive and not the rest of her kit.
>>1249545 goalpost keeps moving it's pretty funni
>>1249545 What? Am i supposed to pretend I like her being defense even if that's not the case?
>>1249533 Lighter turbocharges any fire/ice agent. If there are fucking Ben mains that cruise on the champ Zhao's also gonna be fine.
>>1249557 Where did I say that? You're allowed to think whatever, but imo I think you should wait to see the actual teams and her play patterns + her disc set to see if you actually hate her being defense versus you just not liking the word "defense"
Does Zhao get crit rate anywhere on her kit?
>>1249562 None that I see
>>1249562 No, looks like she gets HP from core.
>>1249561 Just because I am disappointed with her being a defender it doesn't mean I hate her stop being retarded
>>1249565 Two posts in a row you've extrapolated fighting some imaginary statement i said enjoy another zhao flip off
i wonder how are the CN playtesters feeling about 2.5.1
>>1249568 She's so cute
for being a defender she doesn't need def huh my bricked disks are still bricked...
>>1249568 she's perfect
Now I just gotta double check my Dialyn prefarm and then it's on to defender mats for Xiao Zhao
>>1249474 she is smaller than a tyrfing, dead end butcher could literally stomp her
>>1249545 Explain to me why she swings a giant ice sword around, yet is a healer support?
>>1249545 She's almost definitely a welfare which may raise some CONCERN after Asaba's power level, but the silver lining is that she's a generalist so she's not gonna be locked to basically a single comp you need to sweat in like Asaba, plus seems like Yebibi is gonna be her undisputed BiS at least until there's an Ether veil support for ATK scalers.
>>1249568 cyuuuuuute
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The ZZZ dev team has shown time and time again that they are willing to do crazy shit that no other Hoyo game has dared to do. I am more than certain that Zhao will be good when she drops -- and even if she somehow isn't; they are handing out reworks and buffs left and right. And who's to say they don't have things planned for the Defender role down the line? So there is no need to be a cringe doomsissy, we are in good hands. Roll on that bunner. Enjoy the bunner.
>>1249580 >(11)
>>1249581 I am rolling regardless but Zhao's kit pretty much just proves they have no idea on what to do with the defense class
Are disc sets really dropping in 2.5? Along with new boss mats? Will they really not let me pre-farm at all?
>>1249136 She's cheating by having 8-10 teats like a regular rabbit.
>>1249559 >>1249541 the more I think about it the more busted it sounds because zhao will also be hyper-charging orphie with 80% crit DMG and like 40% overall dmg too, it sounds like a pretty damn cool team.
It's over
>>1249581 I would like to have as much faith as You do
Zhao's thighs look fucking huge in the skill level up menu what the fuck, those might be thicker than some of the hags in this game or maybe even Qingyi
>>1249587 Considering this team is great on Manato and he doesn't even get Orphie's full benefit, and supports like Zhao can be run better for dead ass scores it seems, she's gonna be fine with Lighter and whoever else you stick to her. So Lucy or Orphie will probably be her BIS attacker team,
Did they really have to flash her panties in our face that many times.
>>1249581 >they are handing out reworks and buffs left and right. No to characters they literally just released. Even if we assume Zhao received a tepid response, there'd still be at least a 6-month gap before they decided to do anything.
>>1249585 I'll save up 20 sweep cards and craft the rest of the discs by recycling whatever I farm during double drop events. Don't forget there's also gonna be substat selectors in 2.5.
zhaogrillon
If zhao is bad I will pay until she's good simple as. LOOK at those animations
>>1249584 well, she is somewhat consistent with Pan, so you could say they just decided they're healers now
>>1249588 Holy fuck why is cat box so fucking slow
>>1249588 I like that they're touching up the VFX for everyone they buff. Can't wait to turn off cumulative damage numbers and pretend I'm Trigger
We still don't know what Zhao's disc set does? >>1249598 Yes.
>>1249588 Hell yeah
>>1249605 it's bandwidth is throttled/stopped in some countries because of laws or some shit due to pedo uploading (actual) CP
>>1249599 I thought the SAnby buffs were almost immediate after her fixes but it just took a while to add. They seem to be streamlining their buff process.
>>1249603 Astra and Lucia are also healers. So far Defenders have just been "Support without access to Kaboom"
>>1249603 That's not even a thing that started with Pan. Astra heals. Lucia heals. Defense character are just whatever other class the devs decide they want them to be
I really hope Zhao's set is busted. Defenders fucking need it.
I can't believe I'm saying this but...I might actually skip Banyue to show support to getting S rank Pulch and run her + Lucia for Manato. That works for him right? I could jsut stick an impact disc on her for better stuns.
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>>1249588 Burnice Burnice Go Go!
>>1249624 Roll for Zhao I mean fuck
>>1249624 No one has any clue what zhao does so maybe idk
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>>1249612 Is this it?
>>1249612 HP +10% When the equipper uses basic attacks, their crit chance increase by 3% for 15 seconds, stacks up to 4 times. When the equipper defensive assists, increase attack by 15% for I'm bullshitting they're still not up >>1249631 those are placeholders
>>1249631 This is just using place holder from an existing set Anon....
>>1249631 >if Hormone Punk is so good where's Hormone Punk 2 and Hormone Punk 3
>>1249598 I want to fuck a labubu so fucking bad
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>>1249598 Abso-fuckin-lutely.
>>1249598 Gotta sell people them labussy.
>>1249636 I'm scared stiff
>>1249598 >>1249637 realistically, how would you even give her these fun animations without flashing her panties other than giving her spats or pants.
>>1249631 These new disks will be great on Corin!
>why did they give Zhao fully modeled panties? and now (you) know, and knowing is half the battle
Zhao doesn't look like an EX and fuck off character and she seems like her sword has a super powered state where it's covered in ice.
>>1249646 She can probably do both.
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>>1249646 She might be a Soukaku alternative.
>>1249631 ZHU YUAN BUFFS HOLY FUCK
>>1249646 you swap off while she's charging her basic attack, pretty sure
>>1249651 Krampus is the long arm legs of the law round these parts
>>1249646 Stop observing things. No you need to be concerned bro
>>1249585 there's two but they re fucking with us and haven't uploaded their stts yet. I think one was meant to be rupture and one is meant to be whatever sebibi is since she's a VH? They might also be for Dailyn and Banyue. If I had to guess, one is a generalist hp % set so Zhao and Ban can use it, and the other is specific to yebibi
Oh yeah I bought these. Thanks Orphie, they're pretty good
>>1249651 BIG Zhao is real.
>>1249661 Was half the bag just air?
>>1249660 The set names seem to relate to Yebibi and Zhao. Guessing one is CR% 2pc Yebibi exclusive 4pc and the other is HP% 2pc HP burn 4pc
>>1249668 Does the pope shit in the woods?
>>1249670 Which pope?
>>1249671 Uncle Popeius
>>1249669 PLEASE let Shungy's disc set be the long-awaited Chain Attack-focused one so many of us have been waiting for.
>>1249673 >When the equipper is Physical and enters the Qingming Cultivation state
>>1249668 Oh, naturally.
>>1249676 Don't you dare, Da Wei...
is it just me or zhao buffs are very underwhelming
>varesa's birthday is on the same day as zhao's looney tooney animations dropping nooooooooticing....
>>1249661 Try the spicy ones next if you can find them, they're a personal favorite of mine.
>>1249673 They could just give us generalist single element discs that aren't shit too.
>>1249673 Just a general use burst DPS set would be neat,
>>1249681 >got the best ID FUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK
>>1249681 They are but she's obviously made for Ye and multiplayer
>>1249629 Converts hp into attack, 1 hp to 0.05 ATK so she'll get around an Astra buff's worth from building HP When she's in any ether veil, each class gets a specialized buff Doing BA5, EX, or DA gives her ice points Ice points charge her ether veil (life, same as Murphy and Lucia's) Doing ether veil activates a quick assist prompt Has a charged EBA When an agent takes her quick assist prompt she'll charge from off-field After charging from off-field, her next EBA, Chain, or DA deals additional damage based on her hp Her additional ability gives 30% crit damage for 12 seconds when she EXs or is in ether veil She drains her health to give the team a small heal on special (15s cooldown) Her damage multipliers are all around about as high as a DPS Daze is eh outside of EX and parry Only weird part is her tag assist, not sure how it works and don't see it in the videos.
>>1249681 She gives Pan level buffs to all agents, and I don't think we know her actual secondary core skill. Her ball is as good as Lucia's. so if her EX attack or secondary core gives similar buffs, or they just uptune the values, she will be a decent secondary support agent.
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>we designed zhao to be yebibi buffslut! please roll yebibi! no >we are giving you zhao for FREE, now have a free support for yebibi, PLEASE PLEASE ROLL YEBIBI no >WE MADE ZHAO ICE ELEMENT DONT WORRY JUST USE MYABI INSTEAD YOU DONT NEED AN ICE DPS EVERYTHING WILL RESIST ICE JUST ROLL YEBIBI no >YEBIBI DEALS QUADRILLIONS OF DMG SHE IS ATTACK AND NEEDS ETHER VEIL THAT ZHAO PROVIDES ZHAO IS JUST DEFENSE PLEASE JUST ROLL YEBIBI AND MAKE ZHAO SUPPORT HER PLASE c6 zhao and skipping yebibi thanks dawei
>>1249691 >Her damage multipliers are all around about as high as a DPS What
>>1249693 Based Zhaochad, I doubt she'll be free, but we can hope.
>>1249693 holy based
>>1249697 >I doubt she'll be free Drip before Yebibi sealed the deal.
>>1249673 Wuxia cultivation 4p for flying sword users only
>>1249700 Did it say she's free? If she's free I'll cum buckets
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Transparent splash art.
>>1249695 https://zzz3.hakush.in/character/1341 Just look bwo. 1501.9% on EBA. 1688.9% on EX. 4234.7% on ult. Depending on her disc set and how often she can charge from off-field I think her damage will be good.
>>1249695 they are in that range. just using ult + chain for comparisons here. first is zhao's chain + ult, next is ellen, third is miyabi, fourth is sanby, fifth is evelyn. her damage is a factor and if you can get past being mindraped by the word "defense" it is clear she is meant to contribute to team damage as a large selling point
>>1249707 Even if they nerf her numbers, she will be better than Lucy or Ben, which means running her with Lighter and Orphe would make her as good as any other DPS.
>>1249702 No but it mimics the pattern of Asaba dripping before Miyabi and combined with Yebibi's core passive requiring an Ether veil and Zhao being an Ether veil support with mediocre buffs that cover all classes at once everything's pointing to her being a welfare.
Hello you fucking RETARDS. BNNUY CNNUY status?
>>1249715 Scroll up negroid!
>>1249715 e2 minimum maybe more
Hello, /zzz/. I'm just here to remind you that the UNIRONIC /zzz/ guild will require you to have proof of ownership for all of the bibis or you WON'T be accepted into the /zzz/ guild. Bibi, Mibibi and Yebibi are ALL /zzz/ core characters and we will have 0 tolerance for skippers!
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>>1249707 >someone finally beat rina's ridiculous 4234.2% ult multiplier by... .5% Powercreep. Powercreep!!
>>1249693 i'm getting both sluts
>>1249697 Too many buffs to be free imo
>>1249466 I'm sorry idols... please forgive me...
>>1249715 Rolling
>>1249720 Of course, I'll have my C0W1 Mibibi, C0W1 Yebibi and Vivian's skin with receipts.
>>1249711 we still don't know her disc set but her biggest issue right now will be reaching high crit rate and crit DMG to make use of those modifiers, which is a general problem support/defense/stunners have, since they cannot use crit balls or get no passive crit boosts, (trigger is an exception), however, im sure if you have good disk rolls and reliably reach about 70 crit rate and over 100 crit DMG then she definitely should be hitting very hard
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Hello, /zzz/. I'm just here to remind you that the IRONIC /zzz/ guild will require you to have proof of skippership for all of the bibis or you WON'T be accepted into the /zzz/ guild. Bibi, Mibibi and Yebibi are NOT /zzz/ core characters and we will have 0 tolerance for pullers!
>>1249711 It's looking like she's meant to be kind of like a mix between Orphie and Cangle, with the buffing & on-field capabilities. A bruiser support.
>>1249711 Her BAs are decent too, I think she'll be fine on-field. The limiting factor is activating a support/stunners additional ability. Orphie probably one of her best teammates since she can activate Astra/Lighter/etc. passives while contributing buffs herself.
>>1249707 Lots of characters in the game have similar multipliers. Rina has the big fuck off ult multiplier But what these characters don't have, is DPS passives and access to DPS role engines, massively curbing their dps potential
>>1249732 Other defensive agents need to worry about building stats to hit a buff cap, Zhao's buffs are fixed so you can just build her with crit stats > HP%. She has a bunch of teamwide CDMG already so just build some CR substats and CR disc 4 and she's good.
>>1249713 Bro I hope you're right because she just seems so good. I would love to not have to roll her. >>1249724 I'm thinking the same, also why would Banyue's banner be cut short if they were just gonna give her out for free. Just have his banner be 20 days and drop her with him.
>>1249693 Shunguang just seems honestly too boring, at least Zhao gives off pre 2.x vibes that people have been begging for.
orphie rollers we won, she is not a luxury unit anymore
>>1249681 She's clearly made to be a generalist, and generalist buffers will almost always lose out to specialists in dedicated comps.
>>1249745 >Shunguang I too hate wutang and will be skipping. But I also don't want the idols and they're fan favorites so what do I know.
>>1249740 she buffs herself though similar to some DPS agents with hp -> atk, of course she needs more access to crit to be a MAIN dps but many support AA's aren't really that big of a deal to where she will be unwheelchairable because she's defense, along with providing buffs of her own I expect some more off-field attackers in the future, and for zhao to enable two attack comps and two anomaly comps
Missed leak hours but I've been speedreading these on both 4th and 8th streets, some quick thoughts: Ye Shunguang and tag assists: Of course it makes sense since she's a sword summoner so her team mates works as a summonable swords to deal damage. Zhao: Jack of all trades, master of none. If there will be requirement for fourth team like the latest simulation thing, she goes well there. Otherwise she can fix/boost some missing buffs/stats for DA/SD teams for hyper carry. Her animations look good.
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>>1249740 1.0 agents have shit base values and kits, not comparable and they're all being brought in line. Even then, with Lighter and Orphie, S11 and Ben can both be wheelchaired to 50k damage with just their engines. Zhao being a decent premium unit with her own self buffs will make her like running a DPS Lucy or really Lighter. Who does really well with just an A rank and Astra.
>>1249748 >yidhari/fufu/zhao will score 40k instead of 41.5k than yidhari/fufu/lucia FUCKKK THE DOOMPOSTER IS CORRECT EVERYONE SKIP ITS FUCKING OVER
>>1249744 >why would Banyue's banner be cut short if they were just gonna give her out for free. >Just have his banner be 20 days and drop her with him. They're just gonna run both banners for 5 weeks like in 1.4, it'd also match up with the date written on the idols' socials page. Banyue doesn't get the luxury of the half-anni patch so he's just paying the debt week from Alice's bunner alone.
>>1249756 Thank you for making up a scenario. I have been owned.
>>1249757 So you're saying Yebibi Sharingan will drop in tandem with Bunbun and immediately segway into idols?
>>1249747 I am glad I pulled her. I can just use Zhao/Dialyn/Orphie and have Zhao as my main dps
>>1249747 I don't know how you reached this conclusion but hooray!
>>1249758 Is that not what we’re supposed to do here?
>>1249700 Wouldn't dataminers already know she'll be a welfare agent by now? IIRC we learned that Harumasa was free because he had a special page in the event menu
>>1249745 >Zhao gives off pre 2.x vibes that people have been begging for. Nigga what are you talking about, when the 2.x teaser dropped everyone was cheering that 2.x isn't all hags and ikemen with Zhao being the prime example.
>>1249757 >he's just paying the debt week from Alice's bunner alone. I can't believe that Alice not only killed the game with the eternal gigantic bunner, but she also crushed the life out of Banyue...
>He thinks they made Zhao Defense to force you to roll the engine >They actually made Zhao Defense because stacking supports with your hypercarry Zhao would be too strong.
>>1249588 Bwo I want to see what her buffs are...
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>>1249747 What did we win? Is it vacation days?
>>1249768 >the original phone linger I still remember schizos leaving him unclaimed for the whole 80 days
>>1249768 There's barely anything in the datamines at all right now, should be more assets related to the events when Shunko is added.
Do we have Ye's kit yet? I'm very curious to see if she'll work with Seed
>>1249768 I wish I was here for his freebie, I will never roll him. This outfit would've made him a pull though. >Wouldn't dataminers already know she'll be a welfare agent by now? There's nothing for events in the datamine yet, and they'll probably hold off on putting that in until at least the middle or end of Dailyn's banner.
>>1249588 That's cool.
>>1249761 Yeah, seems like the most probable roadmap
>>1249778 His kit is pretty fun I'm just bad/dont know how to use manual chain so I never use him
>>1249747 >>1249764 Luxury = living good, so she will always be a luxury unit. Orphie's fat ass is life. Also her buffs are still better than Lucy's and she does decent DPS on her own. She was always going to be good, she's just only functional on Attacker teams.
>>1249771 He design still has some urban aspects to it imo compared to everyone else. It's one thing that Yuan and Fufu both wear similar clothing since they are from the same temple faction, but Lucia and Yidhari also wearing the rupture pants is kind of a bore. I should say Orphie and SEED have the 1.x feel too, but I will also say they were planned for a long time according to the internal docs so I can't fully count them as "new". Of course, Yuzuha, Alice and Manato are good fully new designs so I guess this season being 50/50 good to boring designs is par the course.
>>1249786 What was the Idols' teased release on their page and when was Banyue's banner ending? If those sink up you might actually be right.
>>1249790 >Her* design
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Rodents of unusual size!
I hate RATAS
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>>1249795 That's normal size, unusual would be this.
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>>1249789 Lighter teams are good too though I thought. I'm waiting for his rerun to play Banyue/Komano monofire teams.
>>1249791 >What was the Idols' teased release on their page 04/02 iirc, February 4th is 5 weeks after Vivian's skin event ends which is set to end after 2.4 which is set to end 5 weeks after 2.3. >when was Banyue's banner ending? A couple days before 2.4, there's always this bannerless period between patches but in this case it leaves him with less than 2 weeks on banner.
>Do you think you have enough chips to face judgment? Now I'm imagining going to the casino and impressing Zhao at the poker table and we go to a hotel and she says this while undressing in front of me
What would a DPS Zhao team look like? Lycaon Soukaku Zhao?
>>1249806 I need to draw that now
>>1249802 Lighter teams are always excellent, Orphie can run with him as a package deal since they activate each other. She kinda works with Komano and it's super fun, I only wish she buffed sheer as much as she buffed attack. >>1249804 So it really does synch up? Well god damn, this is the best Christmas gift I could've asked for. Hope you're right anon. If not you will be punished by bunnish.
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>>1249791 Says 2/3 on their twitter banner, so February 3rd. 2.4 launches on November 26 5 weeks after that is 2.5 on December 31 Assuming 2.5 is also short, 5 weeks after that is February 4th, they'd be out on the 3rd in China I think.
>>1249807 That or Zhao/Orphie/Any support or stunner
>Do you think you have enough chips to face judgment? Stay away from my chips!!!
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Is Ye Shunguang just not coming out? I'm kinda confused on the drip.. Here's 2 bunnies as compensation for my stupid question
Kind of bummed that Ye didn’t get fully leaked, I tried to stay up for her. Do we know her element? Zhao looks really good. Could she really be free?
>>1249826 physical attacker
>>1249825 Yeah wait for 3.2
Just like how Alice has been buncrept we need to goatcreep Lucia.
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>>1249817 fat >>1249825 the sword dog thing? She's not in the beta, so most likely she'll be next drip or next beta. Unless they pull a Manato and we get a completely different agent with Zhao.
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>>1249822 Z.E.S. (Zhao Euphoria Syndrome)
>>1249831 ? Who's the other goat
>>1249834 Doesn't exist. Which is why it needs to happen.
>>1249834 ENTER
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>Shiyu Standard node has been redesigned >changes to Critical node (the one that rotates every 2 weeks) >no longer 7 stages but just 5 >5th node is basically small DA - with 3 fights instead of 2 >there are no choosable buffs like in DA, they force buffs on you, however there is more of them than before >it gives currency for new potential store Just going off what I see
>>1249839 >S+ rank Oh no
>>1249839 >no longer 7 stages but just 5 We better get the same fucking amount of poly. >5th node is basically small DA - with 3 fights instead of 2 Ugh. One of the things I like about Shiyu is you just need two teams.
It might be better if Zhao's passive gave Crit Rate to Support/Stun agents. It would allow weird off-meta builds.
>>1249839 Not sure I liked this. Needing 3 teams sucks because I don't have many good w-engines.
>>1249839 Very gay
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>>1249839 >S+ rank Reminder you need to get this in every single Shiyu from now on in order to be admitted into 8th Street.
>>1249839 Good. Shiyu 7 was boring >Just fight 2 elites with a miasma shield bwo! Zzz...
>>Too fucking short for the intro animation God
>speculating this hard on first version in a zenless zone zero beta
>>1249839 >I need three teams for Shiyu now gay
>>1249839 Love to see how people could possibly meatspin this into being a good thing.
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>waaaaah 3 teams horizontal investmentGODS owned you
>>1249857 I don't vertically invest, I just save a lot
>>1249839 >three teams >S+ rank I'm ready as long as they keep rewards with S rank clears or like they are at the moment.
IDOLS
>>1249839 So instead of getting 7 stages, we get 5 with the last stage being 3 fights at once. And the reward is the new premium currency. I'm okay with this if it means there's less grouping bullshit and the fights aren't HP sponges. Also obviously we should get the same poly.
>>1249863 if the devs don't sneak a single uoh reference in there I'ma be real disappointed
>>1249863 >more future bass kino 2.5 is going to be so fucking peak
>>1249863 >Ropemaker But nobody calls me that when I make ropes after seeing Chinatsu.
>>1249863 >Ropemaker That's me. I'm the ropemaker.
>>1249839 rewards for new Shiyu: 120 + 120 + 150 + 150 + 240 = 780polychromes 60 + 60 + 120 = 240 new tokens to potential store
>he STILL doesn't have 3 teams It's time to stop being autistic and spend some chrome. >>1249863 This pretty much guarantees that the Angels are dropping after 2.5, huh. Actually -- who fucking knows. Devs are total psychos.
>>1249874 How much is it now
>>1249874 >580 poly less this is a joke right
Yiddy.
>>1249863 >>1249870 2.5 is giga huge.
>>1249878 780 >>1249879 Anon what the fuck are you talking about
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>>1249863 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>1249877 So free Zhao? >>1249886 I misread it as the top half being what we get now and the bottom half being what we get after.
Holy fuck I want to see YeShu animations already This fucking datamine showing she has that godawful tag assist mechanic got me worried, but I'm sure the devs will go so crazy with her animations that I'll forget about that shit
>>1249896 Tag assist is only annoying in lost void sometimes because it's on agents it wasnt designed with in mind and your muscle memory gets fucked because of it, if it's on an agent meant for it i think it could have potential
3 teams just means i will never bench my burnice even MORE now so all good
>>1249889 I don't think Zhao will be free, and the Angels might be the second half of 2.5 actually (maybe with one of them being A-Rank?), that's probably more likely. But like I said; the devs are totally psychotic, so who the hell knows...
What kind of ropes are we making?
>i will look for and impose patterns on a dev that hasn't adhered to any known and established hoyo patterns
>>1249466 Start of the video >aww that's cute Start of attacks >HOLY SHIT SHE'S AWESOME
>>1249906 If we all believe Zhao is free, our psychic brainwaves will mold realtiy to our will and she will be free. Much like we willed co-op into reality, surely.
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>>1249906 I WILL looks for patterns where there are none. I WILL make schizo theories with absolutely 0 valid evidence to back them up. I WILL plan my polychrome spending around absolute delusions and then MELTY when said plans are ruined!
>>1249917 disaster...
>>1249917 >Lifts sword >"I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE" >Locks in I might throw a tenner
>>1249917 i love her
>>1249917 GOD. OF. DEATH.
>>1249917 Silly rabbit.
>>1249926 Trix are for kids!
>>1249917 >this is what TOPs are scared of
>>1249931 For good reason. Imagine not taking her seriously because she's a small semi-retarded bun and then she just cuts your dick off for not paying your taxes
>>1249896 I feel we are going to see them soon enough.
>>1249917 Cute!
>>1249931 Probably the same feeling when people in Star Wars saw Yoda Everything is fine until the fucker begins to jump
>>1249931 it's all cute and fun until they jump and bite
>>1249938 Zhao's reaction to seeing a circumcised dick
>>1249926 dicks are for...
>>1249942 Yeah then it's sexy
Why are you guys hype for a glowie
>>1249943 Oh no, Zhao is not an agent, she's an (((agent)))
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>>1249949 She's not just a glowie, she's the IRS.
>>1249931 With good reason. She's fast and can carry a weapon that is probably double her body weight. She could easily snap everyone in here like a twig and that's hot as fuck
zhao is what they call in the industry a "case officer"
>>1249919 Hell the fuck yeah, and I'm gonna do it again
>>1249953 Imagine thinking she's a harmless bunny and the next thing you know, your chest caved in from her drop kick
you guys didn't notice but they added jiggle physics to zhao's feet
>>1249951 ENTER
>>1249959 I noticed that actually
>>1249963 > lyingeifa
>>1249963 Free Chinatsu for everyone!
>>1249963 I cannot think of a single Chinese gacha that respects Christmas or New Year's that isn't China's.
>>1249959 I will never notice it even if you force me to
>>1249963 Free Corn
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>>1249963 Free Void Hunter
>>1249949 >>1249952 But she's the glowie IRS for the corpos so she's good actually. She's basically furry lina khan.
Where's Yebibi leak?
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>>1249963 AWWWWwww SHIET LOGINTOGETFREE LOGINTOGETFREE
Go go
>>1249963 Free Lucy ready for impregnation.
Ok but why is everyone so in denial about zhao being free
>shang GWONG has ether veil NO MORE RUPTURE SHE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A PHYSICAL ATTACKER
>>1249963 ZEE ZEE ZEE LOGINTOGETFREE LOGINTOGETFREE
>>1249984 >support >gives buffs too good
>>1249984 I mean it's cool if she is but people have a tendency to hype themselves up with overinflated expectations only to have a melty when their headcanon doesn't happen.
>>1249984 Zhao isn't Harumasa level bad so I doubt she'll be free. It's not even confirmed that it's Zhao, it could just one of the agents getting a buff in 2.5
>>1249984 A lack of a "PICK UP YOUR FREE SHIT HERE" screen like Homomasa.
>Angel's specific set
>>1249806 Zhao strip tease game every time you win a round of roulette....
Whore
wtf I didn't put my real birthdate on!? how do they know
>>1249996 But the beta just started the pick up harumasa stuff was added later in the first few betas we only had the leakers words
Maybe they'll give away another free Haru Everyone will have an M6 S-rank in 6 years.
>>1250000 >he doesn't know
>>1249984 Female agents are never given for free
>>1250000 ZYL knows where you live
>>1250004 There's always a first time for everything
>>1249990 Her buffs are kinda meh though
It's going to be Harumasa again.
>>1249984 It would be funny
>>1249997 Reminds me of pic related.
BROS
>>1250012 womb set...
>>1250012 2.5 disc sets
Zhao doesn't have her own set Its over Defense really is the abandoned class
>>1250012 Oh fugg
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>>1250012 >>1250015 >>1250016 Idols' set and not Zhao's after all. >>1250011 Much cooler 02 compared to the meme dance girl.
>>1249995 Zhao is designed to be the ultimate welfare agent that can be slot in any team so that new players and returnees have something they can use with what they got until you can roll something better.
>>1250020 >Defense really is the abandoned class >He thought defense could ever be fixed
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>>1250017 That middle one is good but I still prefer the nun.
>>1250000 Happy birthday, nice get
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>>1250029 HOLY DPS Chinkyi.
>>1250029 Holy shit
>>1250029 Astrabros...
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>>1249997 Also -- this now DEFINITELY confirms Idols are after Zhao & Shunger. Oh fuck. Oh FUCK.
I hope Santa Qingyi comes around again.
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stop being a manwhore
>>1250042 >actually 5 songs Holy shit I guessed right two threads ago it’d have to be a hefty amount since it’s the long awaited idols
>>1250042 what genre
>>1250047 j-pop
What fucking set is Zhao supposed to get then? Shit sucks.
>>1250004 >Female agents are never given for free Only the hot human-shaped females since they sell more, while Zhao is just a cute gremlin. Still unlikely but not impossible.
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>>1250042 If you're not a mood of the moment person i don't trust you
>>1250049 Don't even know what they do yet....
>>1250047 Prog metal
>>1250050 Base elysia was given out for free for hi3. And that’s the most shilled character of all time but they did make a super god version 5 patches later for her.
>>1250047 Gorenoise
>>1250047 Country
>>1250056 >zhao will get a super god version in 5.x where she forms a rebellion against TOPs
>>1250049 Probably 2pc Yunkui and hope that one of the new disk sets works with her. She really should've been made support so she could use moonlight lullaby
I'm not gonna hold any hope of free Zhao because I don't want to feel disappointed by my own baseless expectation again.
>>1250047 Probably some basic idol songs "I WAKE UP AND GO TO SCHOOOOL, SND THERE I SEE MY FRIENDS!!! LETS TRAIN HARDER TO THE SHOOOOOW. I'M SO HAPPY!!!!" or some shit like that
>i will harbor baseless expectations and then cast aspersions against devs when said expectations don't occur WHO AM I?
>>1250064 yeah im thinking kino
>>1250066 Jeet street…
>>1250064 My favorite!
>>1249836 like this?
>>1250064 You don't mean... idolslop
>>1250047 lolicore/goregrind/afrobeat
Looking forward for this event
>Zhao is an Ice Defender Perfect, I finally have a proper agent for my Soukaku DPS
>>1250064 Alternatively Rokudo goes crazy and we get a Pisces - Jinjer from her
>>1250042 Idols 2.5 or am I coping?
>>1250083 It's their introductory even, so they might be in 2.6 Both Zhao and YeShu have introductory events in 2.4
But what happens after 2.6? Who will we wait for now…
>>1250064 Based. People who hate this should be shot in the head btw.
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>>1250053 I doubt Shunguang's set will work on Zhao.
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>>1250076 >Bartender's Special/Signature Cocktail Oh shit Burnice getting a feature on the Angel's debut album!
>>1250085 >>1250086 3 more patches of savings...
>>1250092 Then don't build and quit game
>>1250099 Only if you quit first.
>>1250089 Personally waiting for them
>>1250100 Have no reason to
>>1250103 His joy restored, his sun brought...
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>>1250089 Raiden expy and Elysia expy
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spoil this one
>>1250089 Still waiting on more Oni
>Yutane probably first half of 2.6 FUUUUUUCK I'll have to use (((that)))
why joyous is so mean?
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Rokudo and Yutane 3d models soon....
>>1250114 3.0 is the Oni war patch, trust
>>1250118 If they show up in the 2.4 preload, I'm gonna scream
>>1250118 Sex with idols soon...
>>1250118 I hope we get to see clanker yutane first
I've just realized that not only did Aizen dye his hair, he dyed his fucking tail. What an emo loser lmao
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>>1250118 If they show up in the 2.4 preload, I'm gonna cream
>>1250119 >YeShu grows a oni horn when she enters La Blanca form I can see it, they'll be the responsible for creating the qingming sword and our mission there will be to genocide them
>>1250115 It could be Chinatsu or Rokudo first. Yutane still doesn't have an ID iirc. Kinda cope so I can breathe after pulling Krampus+Shunko.
>>1250117 It's a big brother's responsibility to tease his little sister.
Man, now I'm hoping that Dialyn isn't that good with Shunguang so that I can skip her and save even more for the idols
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You guys better be careful with zhao now.
So among the idols who will be the A rank? Since the devs hinted there 2 new characters to be released still before season 3, i think 2.6 will be the idol patch
>>1250143 People think zhao is the free agent but i think it'll be one of the idols in 2.6 and they'll all be S (the free one of course homomasa style)
>>1250147 It's a possibility
>>1250104 i wish the people who made these mods made a flat toggle the boobs are always terrible because the skeleton has no bones to make the tits jiggle
>>1250143 Certainly not Yutane since she has 2 forms and devs wouldn't waste that much dev time on an A-Rank (right?) Personally I think all of them will be S-Rank with one of them being a free unit (maybe Chinatsu since she's the one that introduces the faction)
So Shungus’ passive is completely useless if Zhao isn’t in her team? I hope they’ll change that, it seems way too restrictive.
The Idols will take one of Astra's songs and make it nightcore
>>1250141 I hope she's ready for the most mid wienering of her life from my void hunter level 2 incher
>>1250157 she likely has ether veil built in her kit like yiddy does
>>1250158 >nightcore babymetal
>>1250157 You better hope she has a built in ether veil
>>1250143 all are S-rank
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>>1249951 Gacha Pantsu shot!
>>1250143 The robot. Non-humans are second-class citizens.
>>1250157 She'll have ether veil. Zhao is kind of a cope as a generalist support because she needs her ult to activate ether veil and her buffs require it.
>>1250169 >she needs her ult to activate ether veil No she can do it through her basic attacks
>>1250157 I doubt they'd add a passive so restrictive like that on a Void Hunter, so she probably can get the Veil from her own kit but benefits with a easier to maintain uptime when paired with other Ether Veil units
>>1250170 Ah yeah, I was only looking at the EN text
>>1250143 All of them will be S ranks and they will all become my idol wives.
just woke up and saw the new drip and beta stuff >Zhao is first banner for some reason? >universal support Defender >ok but not great buffs >really middling looking Mindscapes I feel like she's going to be given out for free and run on a concurrent banner to Yebibi like Harumasa was, it's especially weird that they'd have Yebibi on second half of their big 2.5 patch. Zhao with her universal buffs would also give all players something to use in coop. Unless they buff her in future betas I guess. The Varesa run animation is fucking sovl though
so what will happen once zhao is in heat
>>1250171 >I doubt they'd add a passive so restrictive like that on a Void Hunter After the pathetic (and successful, unfortunately) money-grubbing in HSR, it wouldn't surprise me if they did.
>>1249951 Very cool bun
>>1250171 They might so another VH problem like Mibibi won't happen again
>>1250174 Anon last year harumasa was dripped before miyabi what's most likely is that both banners will run at the same time like they did for 1.4
>>1250174 Her MVs are in line with the top DPS agents so her buffs are likely balanced around her actually being a DPS in disguise.
so... is phon still a must roll?
>>1250170 Actually, do we know how she consumes ice points?
>>1250174 Universal character, defender, the fact that 2.4 is Banyue/Dialyn and then 2.5 is Ye Shunguang/Idols introduction & discs + maybe a free character around new year.
>>1250178 Shifu is mostly self sufficient though, Mibibi got punished because they didn't expect players to do what they did with Freeze and stun times >>1250180 So you're saying her GS charged slash could actually be useful Would be kino
>>1250181 No one is a must roll except your favorite
>>1250165 they really want us to see the panties they've modeled for her...
>>1250185 >could be So far it is.
>>1250165 Are the chinks loosening up on panty shots? I want to see more moving forward.
>>1250186 >roll your favorite >supports for it become must rolls unless you want to be a dipshit playing something like 3 on-field DPS
>>1250181 I'm rolling her for main dps Zhao
>>1250181 She's a must roll for me for her Wicked Weaves. She's also still a pretty good generalist stunner who I need more of. Also lets me run a meme Billy/Banyue team.
>>1250061 Might be an Astral angle like with Pan. She does do quick assist procs when she makes Ether Veil, like Lucia, so unless it requires retarded amounts of resources to generate a full bar of her meter, she shouldn't have trouble maintaining it. Her energy regen should be pretty crazy what with the Defense Ether Veil buff being 0.72 energy/sec, and her engine also has 0.26 energy/sec.
>>1250181 We still need to see Shunguang's kit, but her additional ability requires Support or Defense. So we need to see how a YeShu/Zhao/Dialyn team might work
>>1250181 I don't know how to feel about rolls at the moment. Manato pretty much fills Banyue role for me as fire rupture, Ya Shunguang is 2.5 thing. Don't know when Zhao is coming out if free and then idols 2.6+. Dialyn is in that strange spot...
>>1250191 nah. No one is a must roll except your favorite
>>1250191 >supports for it become must rolls No, you skip them too and use other supports you like
>>1250191 Supports have always been must rolls bro...
Idolbros we're getting close...
i will run caesar/jufufu/zhao and clear Shiyu and DA with it
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What if the idols are also Tag Assist-based?
>>1250207 I would still M6 all of them
mog
i did it i no clipped outta waifei
My schizo theory is that Shunguang's eye is going to be transplanted to Joyous's eye
>>1250216 It's Lucy's eye, actually
Thoughts?
>>1250220 Who is that ai generated character in the middle
>>1250220 Zhao and Caesar are the only good ones
>>1250220 Abandoned role. Tragic.
>>1250220 Please buff my King.
>>1250220 Zhao's free, I already have Caesar (M6), and I don't care about the rest.
what's interesting about Zhao is that she does absolutely fucking nothing to fix Defense as a class they really have no idea what they want to do with it, Caesar isn't getting buffed for a while
>>1250226 I disagree. if they do defense as a sort of on-field support role with healing/shielding capabilities who can drive for off-field DPS that seems like a direction that is more coherent with the modern meta
Defense class is for the enthusiasts, the purists, the diehards. Metachurls, tourists, fairweather gamers need not APPLY
>>1250216 Which old Void Hunter did Ye replace? Miyabi replaced her mom/granny so I think that’s how it works?
>>1250226 It's supposed to be the survivability class. Problem is, dodge is an overpowered mechanic in this game.
>>1250230 This isn't Genshin. She became a void hunter on her own merits.
>>1250229 I agree but also I want Shiiza's Potential Unlock to give her a Perfect Rush. Zhao has GS charge slash and Seth has a CB. It's only fair.
>>1250226 It should've just been Rupture but that ship has long sailed
>>1250232 >release units that get stronger the less HP they have >Yidhari has such obscene Damage Reduction that something like Caesar's shield isn't even needed ok hoyo
the cable car would reach the top and go back down the route again, yum cha sin is acutally under the map, interesting
>>1250226 Defense only exists so that some units don't have access to support w-engines, even tho their whole kit is just "this unit is a support" Just like Attack and Rupture
>>1250237 The Defense class is why the devs should damage bloat the game instead of HP bloat. They simply have no purpose right now.
>>1250241 I rather defense have no purpose than them do that
>>1250220 2 females, 2 males. Balanced.
>>1250238 Sweety's space-time bending elevator...
>>1250242 Damage bloat is more fun. Of course that would require reducing HP but the devs won't ever do that lol.
>>1250244 Void Hunter Sweety
>>1250241 It would make the game harder, and we all know they can't do that without DaWei getting a Mexican cartel execution
>>1250248 We should get more content like those hard commissions in 1.1. They're also adding ways to stop people from abusing I-frames so 2.5 would be the perfect time to add something like that
>>1250241 problem is parry/dodge/iFrames are too strong and ubiquitous, and as soon as you increase skill difficulty (and thus demand for defense) you filter majority of your audience and run into accusations of p2w (real or unjustified, irrelevant either case since falsehoods does the work of truths in this genre) rock stuck between boulders of fundamental gameplay but i'm sure ///ourguy\\\ ZYL will come up with a solution of buffing Defense to allow casual disregard of recent combat annoyances like special boss moves ie Jane spin2win and M*asma
>>1250248 They're not going to create a problem without also creating a solution they can sell to you.
>>1250245 Not really. Dodges are too powerful in this game so any sort of damage bloat that would drive anyone but the gigashitters who dont press anything but mouse1 to roll for an agent with significant power budget in "survivability" would hit you through dodge or something like miasma corruption which is fucking awful no thanks
some last out of bounds imag, very nice for npc upskirts
>>1250252 Shaoji?
>>1250256 wonder what this book is doing under yumchasin
>>1250256 >black
>>1250252 This will be a joyous story like none that has come before
NOO JUFUFU
>>1250259 Sweety's nude photoshoot that she regrets
>>1250252 I'd unironically uninstall the game.
>>1250260 Zhao also has black undies.
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>>1250270 that means she's had sex with human men
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>>1250264 >Have no fear, fufu's here! She says as she pops out of a manhole
nothing in the hollow apart from a coll entering effect and some ships
>>1250264 >>1250280 The Ju Fufu Everywhere System
It would be cool if coop maps were really big like the Lemnian Hollow so stuff like Mibibi and Shifu's fast dashes would be useful I'm expecting it to just be arena boss fights though
Damage bloat would probably alter how the game is played significantly. Swapping becomes risky because agents might accidentally die off field. A mistimed parry could also become a run ender.
>>1250226 When Mihoyo fucks up on a fundamental aspect of a game they kinda just give up on updating it, and any character associated with it is designed so that it actually circumvents its weaknesses without contributing anything to buff it. This is exactly what they did with Navia and Xilonen.
Guu mo-ning How would you feel if Zhao was actually free, but gets nerfed in beta to be as proportionally weak to current units as Harumasa was when he released?
I don't think Zhao is supposed to be a main support.
>>1250294 i don't care, i'm not getting her for combat prowess or account utility. i'm getting her for joy and amusement
>>1250294 She'll be free and she won't be trash like homomasa.
>>1250294 dc she's cute
>>1250294 I only care about Zhao in relation to whether she's necessary for Yebibi.
>>1250294 I'm rolling her regardless but I gotta know what her mindscapes do
>>1250294 Upset but nothing is going to stop me from rolling. Her kit is pretty strong right now though so I don't think she'll be Harumasa 2.0
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>>1250229 Look me in the eye and tell me Yuzuha being a better defensive wall than Caesar is okay. KING needs a buff.
>>1250297 She's looking like a DPS unit. Her access to crit stat is kinda limited though.
>>1250306 yuzuha parry is an aberration, an anomaly, a glitch in the ecosystem. the correction VILL be coming. #Defense2TheMoon🚀💯🔥🔥
unironically wtf were they thinking with nerfing Banyue, who does this even benefit? wasn’t he already weaker than Yidhari in beta? and Yidhari is solid but nowhere near OP enough to get nerfed.
>>1250294 Getting her regardless but I'd still be upset. Would rather have a character I want be useful.
>>1250311 >who does this even benefit? The people who were on the fence about him and will now skip him for Ye
>>1250286 We got what sounded like several different game modes besides just boss battles in the coop leaks (see #3, and the implications of #6), so I think we might.
>>1250308 >access to crit stat Since she doesn't have a stat goal other than HP for damage that makes it easy enough to build for.
>>1250308 You can just build her mainly for CR and then run Fufu with her to help out with CD. Even if you were to get something like 70/100, I think Zhao would do pretty good damage
>>1250311 I don't what their objective is, but I'm loving to watch all the people that bashed my qtpie (Flora) absolutely seething on the leaks subreddit
>>1250294 Is this the new cope after the a rank fags got btfo? They're trying to doom she's free?
>>1250331 >free = bad This is the next big cope.
>>1250308 + she has her own buffs. I guess you can do some damage with her.
>>1249984 The 100% Miss Zhao event is foreshadowing
>>1250311 I think the devs just unironically hate males and are intentionally sabotaging them to give the higher ups a middle finger whenever they force them to add one. I can't think of a single good reason to nerf Banyue.
>>1249984 Because right now its just people talking out their asses, nothing has been confirmed
>>1250346 Good.
>>1250346 Hugo is strong with totalize, and Manato at M6 can clear anything. I think fags are overblowing the Banyue nerfs and they're a nothingburger
>>1250346 Good, ZZZ is for women enjoyers
Oh yeah, does Zhao have any synergy with Dialyn? Maybe Dialyn-Zhao-Miyabi is decent? I don't know what DIalyn does.
>hated yidhy when announced >love her now >thought dyalin looked bad when announced >love her now what is this phenomenon called?
>>1250354 Waiting?
>>1250354 Falling for the marketing
>>1250353 No Dialyn wants an attacker or Rupture agent
>>1250362 >not faction requirement That feels bad.
>>1250346 And yet women won't get the fucking message and leave already.
>>1250294 >get Zhao for free >can now get her Wengine or save up for angels yeah, why not
>>1250354 It's called tsundere
>>1250369 no... not like this...
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>they might give zhao for free Based devs helping me save rolls for Idols. Can now skip all of 2.4 and 2.5.
>>1250353 Just use Orphie to bridge between Zhao and Dialyn
Zhaobros...
Orphie kicked that guy in the fucking head.
>>1250379 Finally we can jump in this game
>>1250379 A step forward for cunnybros.
>>1250376 I don't have Orphie becaue I lost my 50/50 and I wanted Vivian and her skin.
nobody will see me rolling ID
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