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/zzz/ - Zenless Zone Zero General Anonymous 11/15/2025 (Sat) 09:34:23 Id: 3f90f2 No. 1250383
Previous: >>1248850 >News Agent Record | Zhao https://www.hoyolab.com/article/42343300 Version 2.4 Special Program https://youtu.be/hMZVmJ8ZGto >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo https://youtu.be/_Zo_zbHmOpI (EN) https://youtu.be/begsPfi50BY (JP) https://youtu.be/G-dkyslN_4s (EN) https://youtu.be/ovdNs4GBg9o (JP) https://youtu.be/NCzUV95VIEI https://youtu.be/CQBbCfxIgnY (EN) https://youtu.be/wutoIFoyZGU (JP) >Upcoming Events for 2.3 https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/160259 All-New Program 10/14 - 11/25 The Inverted Night Lantern 10/14 - 11/24 When Dreams Remain Unfinished 10/17 - 11/24 SNAP! Shining Strike 10/22 - 11/10 Timesworn Hills Explorer's Guide 10/14 - 11/26 Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 10/29 - 11/03 "En-Nah" Into Your Lap 11/05 - 11/25 Chronicle of Counseling 11/05 - 11/17 141 Eco Art Exhibition 11/12 - 11/24 Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 11/19 - 11/24 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online) https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption ZENLESSGIFT ZZZ23SWEETILY KRAMPUS >Resources and useful links https://rentry.org/zzzlinks https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends https://interknot-network.com >/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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Sex with Yutane-sama
My ID can be claimed for free in 2.5
Reminder that there is ZERO indication that they're giving Zhao away for free.
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Sex with Zhao-chama too
breeding with idols
My ID stole Zhao and gave her to me. Now nobody else gets her for free.
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Hell yeah
>>1250393 Sweety? More like SWEATY lmao!
>>1250396 sweaty after sex
So Zhao is looking pretty strong at M0W1, right?
>>1250400 Not really.
my id got into trouble with krampus and was raped by zhao
Soon...
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zhaosex id
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What an excellent morning Cant wait to give my labubu a big hug
>give the strongest stunner in the game who directly powercreeped my Chinky and Fufu a slap on the wrist nerf that changes nothing >gut all the multipliers of the only cool male in the game who was already worse than Murphy There's gotta be a disconnect between the story/art devs and the nigger gameplay balance devs, what with stuff like how prominent Manato is in the story versus being A-rank ingame, or how much work clearly went into Banyue's animations versus last minute shafting him Was going to whale on Yebibi to go with my other two M6 Bibis, but I'm reconsidering that now
>>1250412 Everybody loves to talk about how they want more 4*s and A-ranks until some shitter they like winds up being one, and then it's "WHY AREN'T THEY SSR?!" They should've made Manato a fucking Bangboo.
>>1250419 I hope she gets a skin as unlikely as it may be
This is the ideal female body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
>>1250412 did I miss something about banyue getting assraped even further into the ground
heh... check 'em
I'm broke because my ID keeps ordering food for herself
>>1250432 That's right.
Becoming my id's personal sweatrag with my tongue
>second disc set is for Yutane I am so bad at Chinese >idols maybe possibly probably have an ether veil There is still hope yet for the bunner. Unrelated, bending my ID over various household furniture
>>1250418 Anyone being a new A-rank is shit until they confirm A-ranks can get Potential Awakening buffs, Corin is one of my favorite designs and even a chad autist like Cornzone has to heavy wheelchair her to get results, no one deserves to be doomed to having good designs delegated to A-rank i.e., Pulchra Nicole and Soukaku being as good as they were is just dumb luck from underestimating defense shred and monoice's potential, no way they intended Nicole to be stronger than Rina in every way >>1250433 All his multipliers got gutted while Dialyn got her stun time extension nerfed from 2.5 seconds to 2 seconds
Licking the phon thighs..... fuggggg
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Some of you niggas need to stop following betas for your own health btw
My ID has sex with 11 year olds.
>>1250385 Her name is Aria Johiel.
>>1250443 11 year old bangboos
phew finally caught up with the threads, pretty crazy turn of events I must say
Zhao status?
>>1250439 I mean, was this recent? I know he was a little behind yid but gutting him even more is a bit much
To be fair, the only A-ranks that get a spotlight are the Cunning Hares trio. A-ranks having minimal screentime is a reasonable expectation.
How do you think we'll meet the old gen VHs
>>1250449 they should continue gutting him
Sex with my ID
>>1250449 It's the new beta changes from like 7 hours ago yes
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>>1250448 kawaii as fuark
>>1250453 Thats what you get for not being creative, now open up for the mcdick
>>1250451 We'll meet Dan at the cemetery (Not!Elysia and the purple haired one are dead for real)
>>1250456 funny too
>>1250451 Yiddy will help us trace their steps
>>1250448 Cute and Sexo
>>1250464 love to see it
>>1250452 take care you don't start hating men so much you troon out
ENTER
Why are you guys fighting :(
>>1250464 >-10% overall Bernard will be alright, calm down.
>>1250471 >10% overall should add another 10%
>>1250450 I'm upset about how Anby/Sanby was handled with no new trust events too, but that's an old and entirely different conversation I just hope green Anby gets a buff to make her actually usable at some point
>>1250470 no corn feet irl drives a man to dark places. depression, rage, and eventually insanity.
>>1250439 Cool, so no A-ranks ever again. Everyone has to be an S-rank because nobody wants their favorite NPC-tier shitter downgraded.
>>1250450 bro your manato
Zhao's running animations in combat are hilarious
>>1250477 Or just buff A-ranks like by letting Corn use her HZ gear in normal play like I said you illiterate retard
>>1250464 Didn't beta testers struggle bigly with his kit? If anything they should have made him stronger
Well? What answer did you put
dunno if these are real, got it from a random reddit post
does anyone have that pic of zhao looking smugly at a dudes erection thx
>>1250474 >Parry on startup of enhanced basic 4 >+50% stun damage multiplier EZ CLAP. I expect my paycheck in form of monochromes zyl.
>>1250482 ez bottom option
>>1250483 Pen-Ratio in current year? holy guacamole
>>1250483 oh wait, I only read the top half Hakushin doesn't list those effects for the two new disc sets, so I'm doubting it's real
>>1250470 no great wars for people to die for the only wars nowadays are flame wars
>>1250482 idk about asking for challenging, I think they'd just interpret that as making the weekly hz run more tedious
>>1250470 Male characters existing in a videogame is evil because playing as them turns you gay.
MY FVARKING HEROOOOO
>>1250495 >videogame *gachashit
>>1250499 >dual-wielding daggers holy avra
>>1250491 I hope they're real Zhao can straight up use both of them
>The Banyue hate is literally just one guy Bro, chill your autism.
My ID is in need of sex slaves for their dungeon and is taking volunteers
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>>1250386 holy cutekino my ID revealed to me their hidden Hitler stash
>>1250509 Kind of like how the seed hate was one guy (fag)
MartialGOD
>>1250499 I never saw this how do I unlock this commission?
I also hate Banyue btw
>>1250483 Fuck defense characters I guess.
>>1250533 Zhao would want the second set though?
>>1250483 Putting that 2nd one on zhao so she can enhance my penetration rate
do we have any idea of whether the substat selector shit is going to use a new resource? I need an Impact disc 6 Summit, but want to save calibrators if we can use them for substats later.
>>1250532 I dont hate banyue i hate his fans though for shitting on best character flora becsuse sher story was too complex and oh noo robot dieded so they had to shit hp this thread
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>>1250525 Its in a new hollow zone, you just talk to him (he is located at the start of the map somewhere I don't remember) and continue thru the map, you will encounter him in different places If you don't see him maybe you already triggered this minievent but forgot
>>1250542 Reasonable, his fans are pretty lame and gay
>>1250537 It's not useable on other defenders.
>>1250542 >Banyue fans are Seed haters because the schizophrenic voices in my head told me so
>>1250546 character specific disc drives are the new norm
>>1250548 To be fair, it isn't that hard to draw a line between the people who wouldn't stop whining about Seed because "Who is this stupid girl? GIMME ROBOT, I WAS TRICKED" and people who like a robot. Their interests are pretty aligned.
12% PEN seems kinda mid Maybe Shunguang has some built-in PEN Ratio in her kit?
>>1250541 We don't know but I'd assume it is a new resource. Still I would just wait if I were you
I look forward to Mibibi getting jealous of (You) spending time with GILFbibi after bringing the old void hunters through the time door.
>>1250552 Moonlight Lullaby is support specific so I was hoping they'd do something similar for defense.
>>1250561 >(You) are Mibibi's grandfather
>>1250525 When you went through the new HZ area he had enemies surrounding him at the start of the map. I think you had to talk to him after fighting them off. Not sure what happens if you didn't talk to him then, try to look for him there
>>1250556 Perhaps this shitty MTL of Pan's core passive will explain what that disk set is actually boosting.
>>1250556 that would be the idol set if it's real Entry Skill is tag assist I think
>>1250566 >Not sure what happens if you didn't talk to him then I didn't talked, thought to read NPCs dialogues after I finish the zone, but turns out there was a failsafe mechanism and on the next bridge you will encounter him anyway, you can't pass that bridge without talking to him
>the leaked disc set will determine the Idols' kit Please don't be another anomaly team Please don't be another anomaly team Please don't be another anomaly team Please don't be another anomaly team But I'm fine either way since my anomaly team is basically nonexistent
>>1250548 It's so funny because you can tell people who love robo men would never hate Seed, it's just some guy trying to look male rollers look bad
>>1250562 defense characters are all over the place in terms of roles, at least this set buffs zhao specifically with sheer force boosts refer to this >>1250569
>>1250561 >fights off the chink whore >has to deal with her hotter, sexier, tailed ancestor after
>>1250449 Calcs call him slightly ahead of yid after nerfs actually.
>>1250569 >>1250579 I guess it could actually be PEN%, I checked Rina's MTL'd core and it also uses "penetration rate". Without the original chinese of those supposed disk leaks we can't say for sure which one it is.
>>1250569 It's fucking Sheer? I am seething right now.
>>1250578 >It's so funny because you can tell people who love robo men would never hate Seed That is a blatant fucking lie. The number of comments complaining that Flora was too present compared to Seed was egregiously prominent. You're either flat-out rewriting history or trying to invoke the no true Scotsman.
>>1250587 Uhh it was pretty obvious if you lurked here for even a single day that this wasn't the case at all and plenty of people got over it pretty quickly...
>>1250587 >mfw history fictionologists acting like people didn't witness it first hand
Nicole Demara
>>1250575 It's anomalies turn, bro. Best accept it early.
>>1250587 And you're comparing apples and oranges because Seed's case was Flora seeming like a rugpull after the initial S2 trailer and the (up until then) accurate Obol leaks, and conflating them with thinking it's just robofags hating on Flora because of screentime Stop being a retard and looking for excuses to equalize any Banyuefags with the people who were shitting on Seed
>>1250589 Putting aside that, no, you're lying again, literally nowhere in this entire conversation did anyone say "here." You're just narrowing down the sample size more and more until you get the result you want.
>>1250589 There is many retards meltying any time flora is brought up no one has gotten over itt
>>1250595 yeah A non sub-dps Ether anomaly for Yutane looks nice
>>1250587 >>1250597 Fact checked to be true
>on the day of zhao drip, eighth street still finds a way to have a seed melty war It's impressive at this point
>>1250598 The only melties I ever see about Flora are when one anon casually/sarcastically mentions disliking her in a single comment and the Sneed Defense Force instantly starts crying about reddit, homos, and women because their waifu got insulted
>>1250602 I didn't even say I hate Banyuefags or robofags, despite finding the latter obnoxious. That got put on me for pointing out the obvious connection that people who hate a character for supposedly rugpulling them by presenting a robot would like a character that IS a robot. Also >sudden (1) Mmmm.
>>1250602 Someone has been trying to get one started for a while now and no one took the Zhao bait
>noooo you have to be posting 24/7 from the start of the thread to ever comment
I'm boutta get us a pizza
>>1250614 cheese pizza
>>1250614 let's melty over the toppings.
>he will mysteriously, conventionally, and randomly, just stop posting after this argument >you are NOW allowed to point this out btw
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>>1250618 >conventionally Sure, I was going for conveniently, but whatever, autocorrect.
Do you want to check my upvote history to say whether I’m allowed to post more Nigger
>>1250615 >>1250616 >>1250621 What kinda meat
Also, no brought up reddit or fags except you. Don't fight the ghosts too hard.
>>1250574 Ahh I think he said something about pressing forward, so I thought it would be necessary
>>1250629 roasted beef
>>1250629 italian sausage and anchovies
>>1250629 classic pepperonis
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>>1250602 this is pretty tame for a melty war, like lazyass cats taking half-hearted swipes in the air at each other
>>1250629 bacon and peperoni.
ZYL this might be a good chance to buff Defender class in general <pretty please?
>>1250639 A pariah class must always exist. Otherwise there will be social disharmony.
>>1250629 burgers and nuggies
>>1250639 Missed the half-anni, wouldn't expect a class revamp until 3.0 tbh.
>>1250637 They've rehearsed it a thousand times at this point and you can tell it's always the same 2 or 3 guys It is what it is maybe they 'll stop eventually like the polschizo did
>>1250644 What the fuck.
Pineapple on pizza being bad is a meme. It's actually good
>>1250649 Umm, proof?
>>1250614 You know what, dominos has a deal right now and its almost 6 AM so vote for what I get on the pizza, I'll get it tomorrow. Top 5 toppings get on and I have to eat the whole thing no matter what bullshit you guys pick https://poal.me/rsv4qg https://poal.me/rsv4qg Zenless Zone Zero pls mods forgib me for off topic
>>1250649 Agree there's worse abomination out there Pineapple on pizza is pretty tame
>>1250652 Lick your screen
>>1250654 >can only vote on one topping
>>1250656 Tastes like salty milk and coins.
Zhao's charge slash needs more impact frames and a short pause in the middle of the swing to give it more weight
>>1250649 Objectively incorrect
>>1250661 Please explain.
reposting this because KUUUUUTEGINOOOOO
>>1250649 objectively correct
>>1250660 Anon, it's not even V1 beta yet they will add more effects on official beta
>>1250662 I don’t like it and my opinions are flawless
>>1250649 I used to haet pinepple on za but a place near me puts grilled pineapple on one of their zas and that makes all the fucking difference
Ye better not be fucking physical.
>>1250670 Anon...
>>1250666 I just want to feel like I'm True Charge Slashing >>1250670 She is going off boss weaknesses in 2.5 and Zhao being ice
>>1250670 she will be physical now
>ice defender brick fuck these nigger devs >banyue nerfed into oblivion again, fuck these nigger devs
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>>1250673 >She is going off boss weaknesses in 2.5 Is it time for Rat hours?
>>1250649 might as well put cherries and whipped cream on it too while you're at it
Buffalo wings are sweet and savory but I never hear anybody complain about it being "wrong". Maybe the pineapple on pizza thing is just seething italians.
Every banyue nerf is a victory f
>>1250686 based
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>>1250678 Zhao's personal damage multipliers are weirdly high for a defender, so she might just be a generalist DPS with support capabilities, oddly enough. Or maybe she ends up free to give everyone a decent coop unit The Banyue nerf is fucking stupid though
>>1250686 >>>(1)
>>1250693 Takes (1) to know (1)!
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>>1250681 They have reduced defense compared to the recent onslaught of Rupture shilling ones, so Jane + Alice will probably do ok even without Attacker shillbuffs Resist Ether though, so no Bibian carry
>>1250685 it's because when you put raw pineapple on pizza it tends to give it an astringent watery high acid taste. when you grill the pineapple it gets rid of a lot of the water and the astringency, caramelizes the sugars to balance acidity, and gets rid of bromelain, which is an enzyme that gives pineapple an acid burn flavor to some people
>>1250699 vivi gives zero fucks about ether resist
>>1250701 >raw pineapple It gets cooked in the oven, no? wtf
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Judging by this, how strong would a Ye Shunguang/Jufufu/Astra team be?
>>1250706 no one fucking knows i assume busted
>>1250670 Ye being physical means I was right to skip the Obol jobbers since she'd be perfect for the Defiler cunt.
>>1250704 not enough, it just gets warmed up
>>1250704 there's psychopath who add them later
>>1250706 Depends on how necessary having Ether Veil is to reach her full potential.
>>1250712 that too
Going back and reading all the changes and shit they're doing to the old agents, both standard and limited, and I don't understand; Are these changes only viable for the multiplayer mode? Or are they going to permanently change all the agents to make them stronger in general?
>>1250706 interesting that yebibi’s clearly intended to pair with zhao even though they don’t seem related in the trailer at all I wonder if yebibi will officially join krampus in 2.5
>>1250688 >>1250679 >>1250677 >>1250674 >>1250672 FIRE, I NEED FIRE FOR FUCK SAKE. SHE'S GOT FUCKING FLAME TATTOOS IN HER THIGH LIKE A WHORE. WHY IS SHE PHYSICAL?
I just woke up and was scared Zhao was going to be rupture slop, so glad she has buffs for all archetypes bros!
>>1250715 The changed listed for co-op are strictly for co-op. The Potential Unleashed changes are for all modes. It's pretty simple.
>>1250715 S11, Grace, and Burnice are all getting permanent buffs like what Ellen and Sanby already got. Those 5 will also have a new buff system that ONLY gives them higher numbers on one part of their kit, i.e., Ellen getting more crit damage. In addition to that, individual Agents are getting coop only buffs to make them viable in that mode, including Lighter, Astra, Lucia, Qingyi, etc. S11 is also included in this as getting a 30% attack buff, which is separate from her permanent buff.
>>1250721 yeah a universal support/sub-dps was the best possible situation because she fits in all team comps, kinda like nicole but better
>>1250724 Damn, that's a lot of changes. But I do wonder if these changes will actually make it so that these units will become desirable in terms of their power level in the future patches, or are they going to give them just enough stuff to bring them somewhat close to the current standards, which they'll slowly fall behind relatively quickly
>>1250728 >Nicole but better Idk about that one.
So Zhao moved like a fucking looney toons character, but when fighting she leaves after images and attacks things like a monster?
Shiyu changes, apparently. No more time limit but score focused. https://x.com/DeshiMarsh/status/1989635976260710750?s=20
>>1250733 She isnt a feared member of krampus just for being a cute bunny
>>1250733 She's supposed to be a deceptive character.
>>1250724 Are there details for Burnice already? I've only seen the BIG explosion sfx, but not the kit details.
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>Dialyn is stronger than Lighter with fire/ice units wtf
>>1250743 >No more time limit but score focused. how would that even work, if you don't have time limit you can just play indefinitely until you get the score
>>1250743 >no time limit >but score based So you can sit there for as long as you want and get S rank with everything?
>>1250743 sounds kinda dumb, any shitter can clear shiyu now
>>1250759 you probably need to hit that score before eliminating all enemies, so you get scored on techs
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>>1250660 >>1250664 imagine her running at you with this speed with her sword in true form before cleaving you in half truly terrifying
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>>1250756 I mean, double ult(or triple for yixuan) is gonna be good no matter what considering how the non-anomaly dps strat basically boils down to dumping ults during stun window.
>>1250743 >no time limit how does that work? do your rotation until you win? sounds kinda dumb?
>>1250743 it's just Deadly Assault without the 3 minute thing
>>1250730 Grace and S11 look ok in terms of being able to sub minute Shiyu 7 (albeit with BiS teams), Sanby is pretty good now, and I expect Ellen to outclass Hugo if you fully awaken her new crit damage boost, albeit the absolute state of ice means that still isn't that great
>>1250764 oh, that would be cool
>>1250768 well I guess Deadly Assault scales by increasing HP bars, not by a timer, but it's similar
>wake up >missed an entire thread >it's the bunny >it's cute today is a good day, I guess
i still dont care about her but her animations are SOVL and what zzz should be about (when not about big booba women)
>>1250770 To think that grace core isnt even active in this and the clear is already so fast
>>1250752 I see... I don't know what to make of it. I don't see it benefiting my team yet rip. My burnice team is pure fire so there's no chance for me to trigger a disorder
What if Zhao gave a buff where freeze during stun will not shatter until the full duration? Would this be too OP?
Sometimes, I wanna fuck Chinatsu (11) and spend all night cuddling with her. Other times, I wanna do so with Rokudo (11). Then, there are some days of the week where all I desire to do, is to plap Yutanes (11) little robotic ass. Thats the beauty of male sexual nature; polygamy. I love all my girls, and I love each one for different reasons.
I can't wait to hear zhao's sound effects
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being on a timer has always been trash because of bosses with cutscene attacks that waste several seconds
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This new event that's almost expiring feels like an inoffensive PG-13 version of Papers Please.
I hope Mibibi fights and loses to Shunko in a new action demo >>1250810 >expect free Zhao >it's just another copy of Harumasa again
>>1250810 they could do the funniest thing
>>1250810 I'd say a selector for 1.0 and 1.1 agents, but they are just rerunning Ellen, it would be weird. So probably one of the Idols
>>1250812 >Unlock Haru >give him away for free agian
>>1250810 Free B-Rank Agent
>>1250816 Date wise going off our upcoming banner that's impossible really since they would show up more in Chinese New year date
>>1250803 just like the first time they ran it in, uh, was it 1.1? people were hyped that it would be like papers please but it was milquetoast
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>>1250818 That's Rina.
>>1250810 free zhao it is
>>1250818 B for bussy?
>make SD skill based so it filters out 99% of the fanbase People will defend this.
Free chinasu
>>1250833 for breeding
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>>1250821 I don't think Chinks are even allowed to make something like that. It's too far from state-sponsored escapism and it disrupts the social harmony.
>>1250833 I will free her from her virginity, yes.
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who's your favorite idol?
>>1250841 your id of course
>>1250841 Rokudo
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>>1250841 Chinatsu
>>1250841 Rokudo
Seeing everything that came out of Zhao while I was sleeping and in itself, I'm happy, her animations are probably the top 3 in the game, I know she's a Defender and has a pretty weak Kit for now, but I guess I'm already used to having every character I like suffer doomposting like crazy. It was Harumasa, it was Lighter, it was Sanby, it was Seed, it was Orphie and now Banyue and Zhao. Please devs buff these last two.
>>1250841 Give me robot
>>1250849 >zhao, harumasa, lighter, sanby, seed, orphie fan You don't exist
>>1250849 >has a pretty weak Kit for now, Her attacks are pretty strong and she has nice self buffs. It's only weak if you're looking at her core in a vacuum.
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>>1250810 its time to build my expectations based on some random telegram post and have a nuclear melty once it turns out to be not true with only reasonable explanation is dev being greed and EoSing the game
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I GO TO WORK AND THEY NERF HARIN AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Seriously speaking, though, if that's as far as the nerf go, everything looks amazing. Sure, 60% CRIT DMG was nothing to sneeze at, but it was also honestly a fuckhuge bonus - questionable to begin with. Going from it to a more reasonable 40% (now with no requirements! Doing stuff in combat always has opportunity cost, even if situational) is a price I'm more than willing to pay for keeping the honestly amazing kit updates. Even by my insanely conservative calcs from >>1239585, S11 is down from ~38% overall damage increase to 30%, which is still incredibly respectable. And I'm still lowballing the impact of her updated kit, due to the whole >BAs are only 30~40% of Harin's total damage approach. But that's a bit of a specific statement. Say you're running Lighter - it means you're running hypercarry Harin, and your damage is most likely focused around the burst. Harin's CA and Ultimate become a considerably more important than usual when Lighter is involved. Why? Because her BAs start 70% saturated on Fire DMG while her CA and Ultimate do not, so his buff is disproportionally better for those. For instance, if you're running current S11 with Orphie and Trigger instead, using only one CA from both Harin and Orphie is often optimal, meaning the proportional weight of her BAs in her total damage output increases. Another thing to consider is that Harin often deals most of her damage during the stun. Not because of her silly AA. Mostly because of her CA and Ultimate being very good DPS, sure, but also because most bosses would actively stop her from getting her most damaging attacks (BA3 and BA4, really it's mostly BA4) out, because her Dodge Counter, while having great multipliers on paper, doesn't benefit from 70% DMG increase from her Core and resets her BA chain back to the godawful BA1. So, the ability to actually get good BAs out instead of being stuck in the >BA12 > DC > BA1 > DC > DC > BA12 > DC > BA1 > ,,, hell could improve her out-of-stun damage quite considerably. Additionally, the stun itself is a very brief damage window, so it's no wonder the total damage done during it is dominated by CA and Ultimate, because you barely have enough time to fit in enough BAs to stack up The Brimstone, but now, you get to start your in-stun BA chain with BA4, skipping all the trash before it and getting to the actual hit you want to land, you get to follow it with BA5 that at very least will be a BA4-tier attack, and potentially even stronger, and the worst BA you'll ever land during the stun is BA3, which is still pretty good MV/s! So the total damage you'll do with BAs during the stun will jump dramatically. BUT IT'S NOT OVER YET! Harin's EX hits like a truck, BUT it has a shitty-ass recovery, so unless you're swapping out of it, the actual DPS increase from doing it is less than ideal. And guess fucking what. Now it shortcuts to BA4 AND activates BA5 (so, at the very least an attack of similar level), AND deletes the shitty BA12 from your rotation for 8 hits. Basically, the tl;dr is that 1) I honestly doubt it's just a 15% total DPS increase from the kit changes 2) There had to be a nerf and I'm incredibly happy it's a very minor nerf to the boring bonus numbers and not to the amazing kit that cause me to salivate.
>>1250832 yet you posted a skill based character
>>1250849 >has a pretty weak Kit for now What she has a really good kit since all we see is her passive and it's a pretty powerful passive When we can't see her Ex, Ult or her ice bar thing and what it does. If those do a lot of damage or give even more support shit she could be mega busted
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>>1250857 don't go to work next time
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Also, Bnuuy looks amazing. Will be pulling her W-Engine and playing her 100%.
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tl;dr
>>1250841 the bangboo abooser
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>>1250857 you better post your runs so I can copy the new strats
>>1250857 EX into BA4/5 on stun was the first thing I thought of when her kit first leaked, her new stun rotations are going to be very satisfying I'm just worried she'll get nerfed further because she seems very strong for a standard brick at this point, but hopefully the devs aren't faggots and brick her just because she's standard (like how they just gutted Banyue)
>>1250841 I don't know. I know nothing about any of them yet
>>1250857 You gotta be an accountant or something boy nobody is reading all this
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What's was the name of the CHILD character in Genshin with CHILD walking animation that got deleted from the game for being too CHILDish? Klee? What I'm getting at, I can't believe we're getting CHILD-sized agent, very much below the height of consent who's goofy and CHILD-like and skips during her walking animation.
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>>1250857 harin has a good husbando
>>1250857 that husbando is you btw
You know people can like children without wanting to fuck them right
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>>1250875 yeah it was klee
Murphy should shoot ink projectiles
>>1250873 i read it all
>>1250857 need a skip option for this shit
>>1250881 >>1250875 Nahida also had a cutesy walk animation that was removed before she released
what the fuck is the sound after her second attack in her combo supposed to convey? her tentacles? her tits jiggling?
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Yiddy tentacle rape
>>1250871 Is she? People were saying she was barely better that Ellen now.
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>>1250879 thoughts?
>bump and made bangboo shutdown >only care about her book >force her bangboos to work really hard Chinatsu is bad person!
>>1250891 >4s video >17mb I'll tell you, maybe tomorrow
>>1250891 Tentacles I think, they make squishy sounds when you walk in the overworld with her too.
>>1250882 Damn Yiddy made wise go oook oook.
>>1250899 That's why Rokudo bullies her
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>>1250885 nahida could stick her tongue out but they removed it
>>1250909 >but they removed it And here, my friends, is why I actively avoid Genshit.
>>1250857 What are the details of her new kit?
>>1250439 I still don't get why standard agents shouldn't be as strong as limited agents but require far more investment. Monetization would get people to roll on banners they normally wouldn't to boost their favorites and would require about as many rolls as a limited but they just come back more often. Realistically, you could make A ranks as good as limiteds but require a stupid amount of dupes like 100 or something for mindscapes after you do the initial unlock with some sort of premium currency investment. People would go for it.
"ward off evil like rats" alright, fuck Jane then I guess
idols are around the corner, i might skip everything until em
>>1250922 <this is evil
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>>1250922 >play with cats Sounds like you got told the right thing to do, Jane's KOS until her new outfit.
>>1250810 For a while now I predicted Zhao was either an A-Rank (unlikely since we got Manato in 2.3) or a free s-rank. Her design doesn't fit into the "Sex Sells" philosophy that every other limited agent was designed with in mind, "furry labubu-fuckers" is probably an even smaller niche than male-fuckers in gacha games. And now that we know Slut Shungite, who as far as we can tell at this moment, really wants an agent with an Ether Veil, which Zhao provides. It makes the idea that Zhao is a free agent much more believable. If they want you to roll Zhao to make a big part of Slut's kit usable, that would probably deter quite a lot of people from actually rolling Slut, since interest in Zhao's design is reliant on that you're either a furry that wants to fuck a furry loli or you're willing to spend rolls on a cute mascot character with no sex appeal (unless you're a part of the other group i mentioned)
>>1250922 well don't mind if I do
>>1250855 You really think people would do that? Just go on the interknot and tell lies?
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>>1250916 It's easier to just see for yourself on Hakushin >https://zzz3.hakush.in/character/1041 But the short of it is: >40% passive CRIT DMG (scales with Potential level) >Dodge Offset (i.e. BA chain continues instead of restarting) on Dodge Counter and Auto-Parry >shortcut to BA4 from CA/EX/Ultimate >BA5 that's enabled by having auto Fire Suppression charges. Roughly BA4 level, shortcuts to BA3. >Can hold BA now for a manual "parry" (gets i-frames and higher level of interrupt if you time it right). Landing it correctly also gives you three stacks of auto Fire Suppression. It's unclear, if you get Dodge Offset from this parry. It's not stated explicitly, but the attack name is identical to the one you get from Auto-Parry, which does have Dodge Offset functionality. Can charge while running for a cool animation. >EX/CA/Ultimate also make her automatically parry the next incoming attack.
>joe rerun >sharknado sequel coincidence? i think not! and sex with my id!
>>1250875 yup, ZZZ devs have actual testosterone apparently. zhao looks like a 6 year old + they made special panties for her
>>1250928 >>1250929 >>1250934 >>1250937 they could never make me hate you, Jane
>>1250949 need more panty shots from now on
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>>1250916 >>1250942 Forgot one more >automatic Fire Suppression makes you attack faster if you manually time presses anyway.
>>1250936 I'm afraid people like this do exist...
>>1250882 from where?
>>1250852 >>1250860 So people are just putting her down more because she's a Defender and because of shitposting? >>1250851 I know my taste is a bit unconventional, but I play more for the cool factor and unique designs than for sex appeal, so to speak. Although I consider Orphie to be the sexiest character I find this season.
>>1250947 What do you mean Sharknado 7? There's 6 of those?!!
>>1250965 zzz's future is looking bright
>>1250968 When a future patch's theme permits it, we are watching ALL of them during maintenance.
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>>1250386 >We have Pipkin Pippa labubu at home
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>>1250966 That's a child you sick fuck
>>1250947 I lost my virginity while watching the Shankado movie that had Frankie Munez. And honestly, I kept sneaking peaks at the movie when I didn't think she'd notice.
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How do I convince devs to make BA5 an Aftershock... I'm currently projecting my consciousness onto them, attempting to will the Aftershock tag into existence. I mean. Come on. Just think about it. BA5 is an attack. That hits an enemy. And then. Conditionally. Causes an explosion. AFTER the SHOCK from the initial attack passed. It's already an Aftershock, god damn it, it just needs the tag!
>>1250909 she's such a slut
>>1250990 cope, soldier 11 will never be an aftershock agent
>>1250973 >savage ellen jho alter patch would be peak im afraid >>1250984 funbad movies are always a treat
>>1250942 40% CDMG from potential, and an extra 30% CDMG from block counter, for a total of free 70% CDMG? I can probably change disc4 to ATK% then. The other changes I'll have to play it myself to get a feel for it. Seems nice though.
>>1250936 Aardvark thiren when?
>>1250997 No, it was 30% from the parry and 30% from the potential. But that just got changed to 40% from the potential and that's it, no more self-buff after a parry.
Labubus aren't even rabbits they're based off the Norwegian troll
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NEW DISKS
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>>1251007 >theres actually art holy shit
>>1251001 Huh? So hakushin doesn't have the newest data yet? You told me to check it anon...
>>1251006 Red for chinkyabi. Pink is Zhao's idk why idolfags are getting uppity.
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>>1251010 Always translate from Chinese, bro.
>>1251006 Guess that means Yutane/Aria is in the first idol patches. With Chinatsu's skin being datamined in 2.5, i'm predicting the order goes like >2.6 Yunate/Aria + Chinatsu >2.7 Rokudo + New Krampus member they mentioned
>>1250931 zhao must be free, the collective unconscious wills it >>1251010 you have to set it to china and then translate it somehow
>>1251005 Theyre based on various creatures from folklore including woodland critters so they are actually rabbits to a degree
>>1250966 >So people are just putting her down more because she's a Defender and because of shitposting? Pretty much
labubus just remind me of pic related
>>1251022 >>1251018 This is why I prefer waiting for the final details AAAAAAAA everything changes anyway
>>1251013 raping the little one, yes. the one that looks like a 6 year old little girl
>>1251006 okay but what do they DO
>>1251036 buff ye buff zhao
>>1251028 Reading her kit, then she's more of a sub-DPS then? Basically an Ice Orphie, but with more time on the field compared to Orphie's off-field aftershock style.
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>>1251031 That's a much healthier approach. After I almost had a stroke while trying to follow Orphie changes, I stopped looking at beta agents for the most part because how much they can change. But I can't do that for Harin can I now.
dialing nerfed too? What the fuck honestly
>>1251051 Based devs for not turning the game into HSR
>>1251051 >nerfed the nerf isn't even bad, banyue got shat on though
in any case i almost did the wrong thing of letting some retard almost ruin a game for me to just ignore them and play it out and had a good time in the process which was dispatch and wish we had a nigga like pic related Do we have the class for the slut yet or no? still on the fence of banyue or the slut but seeing the banyue number nerfs is pretty damning but animations will drive me end of the day
>>1251060 She's a physical attacker
>>1251051 Barely, her stun extension went from 2.5 seconds to 2 seconds Frankly not enough of a buff with how she powercreeps every other stunner, I still think they should have followed Lighter's lead and made new stunners extremely specialized but super strong in their niches instead of the universal boosts Dialyn is giving
>>1251048 Yea she would be more of a sub DPS. Right Zhao has 1700% MV on her basic attack combo at lv.12, while Orphie only has 1300% on her skill, so she has pretty high numbers. napkin math, with 9117 base HP (might be the highest?) and 765+713 base ATK, M0R1 Zhao will get >443~ ATK from a 30% ATK disk = 14.7 ATK per ATK% >2735.1 HP from a 30% HP disk = 136.75 ATK = 4.55 ATK per HP% >assuming WEngine + Crit/HP/HP + 2pc HP% setup, Zhao will have 18234 HP >let's assume a gentle 12 HP% subs (3 per D1~4) for another +3282 >base 21516 x 10% combatHP% from sig >2151.6 HP gleaned from combatHP% by going full HP = an extra 107.5 ATK from +136~% worth of HP = an extra .79 ATK per HP% in favor of HP% (4.55 -> 5.34 ATK per HP%) tl;dr HP only affects her healing output, if you want her to deal damage you're going to want to run D5 Ele%/D6 ATK% instead. Her sig is HP% but the 40% CDamage attached to it + whatever partial conversion makes it probably the best regardless. Seems like she might build damage instead of HP
>>1251061 owari... i rolled both alice and jane
>>1251051 She's still way too strong >universal stunner >can be as strong as Lighter in stun >turns chains into ults >crit into impact >does decent personal damage She's probably the best stunner in the game and one of the better supports.
>>1251030 I think that's the literal inspiration.
>>1251063 >Barely, her stun extension went from 2.5 seconds to 2 seconds Oh that's it? nothingburger then, carry on Except I can't understand how Banyue got fucking destroyed by comparison
>>1251064 And unlike other supports and Orphie, she also doesn't have any stat requirements to maximize damage/buffs, so for now she doesn't seem too difficult to build.
>>1251051 If anything, they didn't nerf her enough.
>>1251072 dialyn won
>>1251071 No, it seem like they want her be a slot into any team thing, so they did that on purpose. I will need to see the scaling on Ult and EX and if they do any effects, so she seems really really good so far from just math guess work without that
QRD on S11 buffs if they even are real? I got her M2 yesterday instead of Fufu and have her fellow OBOL members built and ready to go with their sigs. Also, my ID will sit on my face, without underwear
>>1251072 Hoyo should invite more retards in the beta so they'll be forced to buff characters.
>>1251078 nice, I will pick up the phone now
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alice should have had white hair, i might have rolled for her then
>>1251079 >Enter the new lead beta ester
So how is Dialyn not superior to Qingyi in every way?
>>1251086 no thanks, this guy can go kick rocks
>>1251076 This is reminding me a lot of what happened with Orphie during the 2.2 beta, where people seemed to be treating her more like a Support than a sub-DPS, and it generated a lot of doomposting.
>>1251088 she's superior in every way, just means that qingyi is in need of a buff
I think i found the final solution the solve the defender class pertinent. Get rid of parries. Make it a universal passive for defenders where you can parry if they're in your party.
>>1251088 Chinky chinkcreeps dialing Gamewise yea beepbeep is superior
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>>1251078 >QRD on S11 buffs See: >>1250942, >>1250857, >>1239585, >>1240128 >if they even are real? For now, yes. >and have her fellow OBOL members built and ready to go with their sigs. Trigger/Orphie/S11 is very fun.
>>1251078 You been under a rock for the past week? tldr she has a new BA finisher, a counter stance, dodge offset, and crit dmg buffs https://zzz3.hakush.in/character/1041 >>1250770
>>1251086 This godly being can buff Banyue to execute a full combo in a single BA press.
>>1251092 Math is pointing to her 100% being a sub DPS her basic doing fucking 1700% MV would never make sense on a support really and the way it looks like building her would make sense points towards Sub DPS with support passives.
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>>1251088 In combat Dialyn probably is just better but I still think Qingyi has great value as a wife and soulmate.
>>1251106 >posts a DA run with no Qingyi
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>>1251088 Qingyi is better looking tho.
>>1251106 >no qingyi clear not your soulmate
>>1251108 Qingyi and Dialyn get me hard in an equal amount of seconds
>no one posting chinky 0101 vidya
>>1251113 I'm the only one that ever posts it
>>1251114 Stage 5 SHMUP vibes
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>>1251107 >>1251110 I did do some Qingyi runs but I get almost 10k more points with Nicole. And I even have m1 Qingyi it's a bit sad.
>>1251121 soul over points, all day, everyday
fuck me, this is becoming too real
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>>1251088 I'd much rather fug qingyi and that's what really matters
>>1251134 and make babies with her?
hi
>>1251129 >blue apple system h-huh?
>>1251121 works on my machine i will probably do comparison runs for zhu's performance once dialyn comes out, it will be grim for chinky
>>1251139 Do the temple mini game
Yuh
thoughts?
>>1251150 Me on the right
>>1251146 good man >>1251150 made for breeding
>>1251150 Rokudo knows
>>1251150 Whos the artist? Is it blvefo9
wait, this is exactly how Religions are made
>>1251150 Wise probably has line marks on his dick that shows how far each of the idols could take.
>>1251088 Chingyi's due for a buff, but Dailyn powercreeps every single stunner and some supports. Kinda crazy how good she is really.
>>1251150 Idols are so lucky...
>>1251146 There's an odd appeal to the girls who are totally platonic friends in the actual game, like Qingyi, Lucia, and Kot, that makes their ship art sexier to me maybe I just like the idea of betraying Zhu, idk Something something want what you can't have sex friends
>>1251129 So do I start buying these from now on? Could be useful for days where I don't feel like entering combat or I'm logging in on the mobile. On an unrelated note: I hope that new steam controller gets released soon because my dualsense is starting to show signs of drifting
oh my bad yall
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Speaking of chinky should one go for her ball or c1 I struggle with keeping up her double stacks but c1 makes it easier to charge it up, meanwhile ball gives more impact to her and provides some atk for the team
>>1251174 C1 is better
>>1251174 m1 no doubt. i'll always die on the hill that chinky was designed with her m1 in mind, just like ellen with her m2
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>>1251170 fine.sorry
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She's so small...
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holy fuck, reading her AA again, it doesn't matter if she can apply Ether Veil by herself, because it says that it has to be an ally to do it (or an enemy) what the fuck
>>1251188 That's why I think Zhao is free, otherwise you'd have to roll her to make use of Slut's passive outside of Miasma phases in boss fights
So who would be the best third unit in the zhaoguang team? Dialyn?
Banyue's been beating the shit out of this guy for more than 5 minutes now
>>1251196 lucia or dialyn
>>1251200 What about Fufu? Is she really not great here?
>>1251196 Yeah, but I'll test her with seed to see how things go
Where did this myth that zhao is free come from Haru has been kept in a dusty locker all this time because he is the designated poverty/garbage bin agent
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I still haven't pulled or used a Rupture agent yet
>>1251201 you could use fufu but ye's whole gimmick is ether veils and dialyn is just better than fufu overall
We should put a bomb collar on Sarah and make her work for us to justify her becoming playable >>1251199 >nerfed so hard he can't even beat a Drowned Ideal generic NIGGER DEVS
2.5 feels more like 3.0 Devs are really trying to turn things around (not like I hate the game right now, just lacks more interesting sidecontent)
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>>1251204 Speculation based off of these reasons >>1250810 >>1250931
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>>1251191 <character is free cause I DON'T WANT TO SPEND ON IT <he says as he's reading v 0.1 of a different character's kit that's not even in beta yet
>>1251209 They aren't changing anything though, it's the climax of the current arc and they are just adding some QoL and Co-op to it.
Easy way to Banyue All his manual input attacks hit like a truck
>>1251204 >VH banner >non VH character dripped first Harumasa/Mibibi situation so far
>>1251098 Thanks anon. I will start building her then. >>1251099 I have been busy catching up in another hoyo game I shall not name, so basically yes. And thanks bro.
>>1251215 To add, she also got dripped first. Which means her banner is likely running side-by-side with Slut's, it would be pretty weird to not have the Voidhunter as the first banner of 2.5
Idk when it happened but at some point I went from thinking Zhao was an abomination to thinking sex with Zhao
>>1251215 >>1251219 So no concrete evidence yet but all speculation Very convincing
>>1251225 Yeah which is why we're saying >Speculating and >I think
>>1251224 you learned to stop being a homosexual
>>1251204 Zhao being dripped first in the big 2.5 patch suggests at the very least she's going to be running at the same time as Yebibi, like Miyabi and Harumasa were Leakers also say we might be getting a free Agent around that time Not enough to say she's free, but it's certainly possible, especially since her kit and mindscapes don't seem THAT strong on paper. It'd also give newfags joining in a good coop unit.
>>1251225 >>1251006 There also the very obvious Idol disk coming with her. Would make is so 3 S rank Idol banners in a row
>>1251230 >especially since her kit and mindscapes People keep only focusing on her core which I think is a mistake
zhao id zhao is cute and i like her animations but if she gets harumasa'd on top of being defense then 60ncidw
>>1251231 I don't think they'll ever have 3 new s-ranks in one patch. The idols are likely in 2.6 and 2.7, 2.7 being split between the last idol and a new unrelated agent (probably the new krampus agent they mentioned)
>>1251217 Co-op Older characters being reworked (not just buffs) New modes Changes to almost every previous mode Probably free bunny cunny too
>>1251210 >heart sticker over Yuzuha's tattoo sovl >inverted octonipples eh
I fight for my friends.
>>1251238 Yes. It's a live service game.
>>1251216 ><character is free cause I DON'T WANT TO SPEND ON IT He's saying it's really dumb to make it so you have to have a premium agent to activate her passive being she is also a premium agent. So far only Lucia, Yidhari, and Zhao have ether veil unless they add it retroactively in a buff or make it so she can trigger it herself. If they keep this caveat to her kit with no other free veil agents, then it would be stupid to not make Zhao free.
>>1251238 We've been getting character reworks, they just included standard characters now. We get new modes and Tower is a previous mode that was changed. SD is the only one getting changed this time, IIRC.
>>1251210 yiddy's parents had tentacle hairs, right? would that mean they had tentacle pubes?
who hate nicole?
>niggers doing "RELAUNCH RELAUNCH" because one wutard cc is trying too make that the narrative You guys aren't slick.
>>1251244 Her passive also activates when an enemy uses their miasma field.
>>1251250 I love Nicole.
>left my OLED monitor on overnight by accident >did exactly no damage at all Holy fuarking technology, Zenless Zone Zero.
>>1251237 Now that what I meant, one doing 2.6 since we are getting the disk and two in 2.7.
>>1251255 New olefs have tech to swap pixels around to prevent burning
>>1251255 OLEDs need months to show any visible damage
>>1251244 Especially since Slut is a Voidhunter, who they want to encourage everyone to roll. Having Slut's kit be heavily reliant on one agent other than Lucia who's only synergy is her Ether Veil with no f2p cope options would be very detrimental towards how many people roll Slut. If Zhao is free, they'll probably make one of the idols or a later agents Slut's "Yanagi", and by that I mean an Ether Veil agent that has even more synergy with Slut than Zhao does
She's a big goat
>>1251251 >Gee I wonder where this all started from. let's look if that one shiposter youtuber that one likes started it way back No one like this guy besides his fans not even Wuwa players
>>1251244 Since when mihoyo started caring about that huh? Their goal is to sell you banners, not give out you next meta team for free. Let's see, do we have other examples when upcoming "hype" characters would need other premium agents as their bis? Hmmm. Every single one of them? Speculations that Zhao is free cause pre-beta version of chink horse's aa can't be active all the time is beyond retarded.
>>1251264 I can see it
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>>1251264 HEY WAIT A MINUTE
Horsepussy is ether right, how would they make it different from Shifu, currently the meta ether DPS? And where does the slut nick comes? Ive been out of the loop on board memes
>>1251244 Her passive also activates on Miasma as well, this seems more akin to the "Miyabi NEEDS Yanagi" situation we had where people said she was bricked without m2 or Nagi
man, her...eyelashes are huge
>>1251263 Having the cope option be a one time get it miss it is even worse. Harumasa has still yet to rerun. If we're going to follow patters that would no one who gets Ye on her rerun will have access to the cope option.
>>1251274 She's physical. The meme is because of her outfit + the thigh tattoo.
>>1251279 *get it or miss it
>>1251268 >Let's see, do we have other examples when upcoming "hype" characters would need other premium agents as their bis? Hmmm. Every single one of them? You didn't need Yanagi for Meebs. Meebs had a bunch of great cope options and performed great even without Yanagi, cause Yanagi just fed Meebs a bunch of stacks with her Polarity Disorders
>>1251274 Slut (affectionate) I'll be using Yebibi. I'm fond of Yeezy but that hasn't caught on at all.
Tbf they went a long ass time on yi xuan needing to use fucking pan.
>>1251291 Pan is an A-rank
>>1251284 did he deserve it?
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i can't triple parry priest is it because of pulchra's evasive assist?
>>1251300 I think? AFAIK parries have a cooldown.
>>1251300 I never know wtf is going in that boss fight. I just buttonmash, get my 20k points and call it a day
>>1251279 Zhao is a support-type agent, so if they make her mindscapes powerful, it would give people a reason to pull her banner even if she's free. Which would also give reason for people to pull for re-runs if she's free in 2.5. Unlike Homo, who's a DPS agent and you needed to pull mindscapes and his wengine to make him feel on-par with other limiteds
>>1251283 Read what I wrote again. Emphasis on <as their bis part
>>1251300 Priest spams parries so hard that your last agent is still out while the 2nd in line is parrying, so if they can't get off-field in time then Pulchra will use her evasive
Dialyn's banner might be the most important battle I'll have to face this entire season. If I lose the 50/50, I won't be able to recover financially from this. If I can get the 50/50 into Banye skip into a tiny topup, it should be smooth sailing til season 3
>>1251307 She's more of a DPS agent that supports. If you're going to use a pattern it makes sense to stick with it fully. We haven't seen the only free agent rerun yet so why would that suddenly be different for the next?
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>>1251278 ...........
>>1251309 Yeah I did, Yanagi was Meebs' BiS, but Meebs' kit wasn't heavily reliant on Yanagi. It wasn't a case that Meebs' Additional Ability or major part of her kit was useless without Yanagi. Which so far seems to be the case with Slut and Zhao
>>1251309 There's a significant difference between one character being BIS for another versus Whore requiring an Ether Veil from her teammate or Miasma to even activate her additional ability at all Yixuan is self sufficient and never needed Fufu Miyabi can still gain stacks from any anomaly V1 Shungite, which can admittedly change at any point, has a much more restrictive AA
Leda buffs tomorrow
>>1251268 >Since when mihoyo started caring about that huh? Since awlays you retarded nigger lmao >Their goal is to sell you banners, not give out you next meta team for free. Yes I'm sure selling a character that doesn't work well without a mandatory support will sell really well. Get real monkey. >>1251309 What you wrote has zero substance or thought behind it because you yourself are a dunning krueger tier lobotomite. You might have an argument if >you needed anybody for Yanagi >you needed anybody for Yixuan >there was a free etherveil agent but none of that is true so your favela logic amounts to fuck all.
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>>1251337 >next day the video store smells like a fish market stall
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I hope Zhao gets buffs and not nerfs.
>>1251337 only time I find tentacle sex hot
>>1251347 stronger than banyue for sure
oh my god her VA is so fucking good
>>1251279 >Having the cope option be a one time get it miss it is even worse. If you're rolling on the debut banner you'd have Zhao anyways, by the time reruns come the devs would add more supports that have Ether veil, maybe even an A-rank for total newbies.
Damn
>moe suddenly taking a billion years to load images again bring back se
>>1251329 So far they're working on fixing old limiteds first with some freebies after. Once the current batch is fixed the next round would probably be >Xu Yuan >Quingyi >Caesar >Jane The latter of which is more likely considering her new costume coming soon. With those four I would assume we'd get another 2 from standard, so it'd probably be a combination of any two from the standard pool that's left minus Lycaon who will probably be last since he's the best of the standards. I would assume they're coming but not until after 2.5
>>1251355 2.6 will have a new BiS Ether Veil agent for Slut
>>1251322 Yes, it's exactly my point. >>1251326 We are back at drawing definitive conclusions about how much reliant chinkyabi is going to be on Zhao vs cope options before she even hit beta? >>1251333 Nice melty, mongoloid mouthbreather. Do thread a favor and go kill yourself so we won't have to see more of your retarded "speculations".
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>>1251357 I fucking jinxed it fuck
>>1251355 >by the time reruns come Right but you'd have to have gotten those characters, a cope option should be something easy to get like an A-rank, not a an S-rank that ends up being super limited because it was free
>>1251357 The devs HATE pan (´Д`。
>>1251364 nah, buffs incoming soon
>>1251362 >Yes, it's exactly my point. I don't think you now what your point is, or you're conveying it VERY poorly. Cause that doesn't add to the point you brought up, but rather contradicts it
>>1251279 >Having the cope option be a one time get it miss it is even worse. The thing is, we have Lucia and Yidhari as etherveil agents that can work with her in a pinch and will come back sooner than Zhao should she be the freebie with the possibility of an A rank EV agent coming after, or getting it added to an existing agent. Harumasa is in a weird spot because he's weak, his kit is hard to use, and he's been powercrept already. I don't think we'll have another agent like him in a long while. I'd say he might even become a standard agent but they'd need to figure out how to compensate anybody who rolled for him.
Also, weren't seed and orphie basically joined at the hip for their v1s? I'm not gonna worry about future zone zero for now
>>1251375 Both of them were in a three-way with Sanby back in their beta V1s They were great together or you could swap either of them out with Sanby and it was still great
To think one bunny caused so much chaos. She really deserves her title after all
>>1251375 >Also, weren't seed and orphie basically joined at the hip for their v1s? No, Seed was fucking insane and so was Orphie. Orphie wound up being changed to only really working with Seed or being a mid sub DPS for most of her beta version until the end, while Seed had to be consistently nerfed to bring her to baseline. As of now Seed still works with any attacker even if Orphie is her BIS but she doesn't NEED her like Ye needs an EV agent and never did even in beta.
>>1251354 for me it's
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What if slutguang uses the qingqong sword's amnesia power to erase our most precious memory of getting violently and non-consensually raped by her? Would that be a good plot point bros?
>>1251381 Right, hope they make her more flexible then
>>1251378 Isn't her job culling the chaos? What a shitty bunny
nobody walks around like this unless they need some quick customers
>>1251373 That still means that in the future if a new player starts on her banner they won't have access to any of those S-ranks, it doesn't really change anything for those players. What it does it put Zhao in a spot where she might never show back up in banners because Haru is all we have to go by even if he is weak. I don't mind if she's, that more polys for me, but her not getting a rerun for over a year would be awful and with the effort they put in her it would a waste of dev work.
>>1251371 If you read <Let's see, do we have other examples when upcoming "hype" characters would need other premium agents as their BIS? Hmmm. Every single one of them? and didn't get that I meant that it's premium agents AS BEST IN SLOT instead of free agents and somehow thought I mean that they need them to function at all - it's entirely on you.
>>1251394 *she's free, that's
>>1251381 Orphie is also Sanby's strongest partner, in every scenario except when the boss is 40% fire res. Yes, even if they have 20% res.
>>1251386 She's gonna erase our promise to Mibibi, and it'll be a foundational plot point for 3.0 Wise Wars
damn, moe died we need PUBSEC's miku to save us
>>1251401 I actually forgot what the promise was lol. Something about getting rid of all evil and living a normal life maybe?
Every time shunko gets called whore, Banyue gets another 10% nerf.
>>1251406 BAAAAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEED
>>1251401 deserved for not giving us chocolate on Valentine's Day like Castorice and Citlali did tbqhwy
>>1251394 >That still means that in the future if a new player starts on her banner they won't have access to any of those S-ranks, it doesn't really change anything for those players. It would be no different than if you started on anni and didn't have a single limited support because again, there are two agents besides Zhao who give EV even if they're not optimal. If she's free, then great, if not it'll be a hard sell since she's way more dependent on having a partner agent than any other in the game currently. Most likely, if she's not rupture, they would change Rina to grant it or introduce another A rank for her. That would make the most sense as things are now. >>1251399 She's also Seed's strongest vanguard target, but you can swap her out for both teams and not lose a chunk of dps as a result. Sort of like how Yanagi is really good with Miyabi but you don't need her to have a great team.
>want to discuss leaks >site won't load posts guess I'll come back later, save me some melties or something bros
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>>1251391 >slutcrept nicole and the calydon whores
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16 (sex teen)
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>>1251405 something like that
Burnice rerun when
>>1251397 Ok let me help you out and point you to my response again that contradicts that very point >>1251322 Zhao can still be Slut's BiS even if she's free, just like Pan was Yixuan's BiS. But it would mean that Slut will probably get a new BiS agent to replace Zhao in a later patch, like Pan was replace by Lucia for Yixuan. Making Zhao free would make Slut's kit actually accessible to every player, which would mean more people would roll her and be willing to swipe for her. Giving away a free S-rank would also generate goodwill and an advertisement incentive for new players in 2.5, which is also the introduction of Co-op and Guilds. But if you had to roll Zhao to make use of Slut's kit in 2.5, with no cope options beyond Lucia (who's only synergy is with Slut is her Ether Veil), then that would push a lot people away from rolling Slut and possibly swiping for her. She's a voidhunter, they want people to roll for her
>>1251412 >Most likely, if she's not rupture, Ye is an Attacker and also seems to be sub DPS since AA is on switching in. Both her and Zhao have tag assists though.
>>1251315 Talking about Dialyn, is there any disc sets one should farm for her or are they introducing new discs next patch?
>>1251425 Her AA is likely to change anyway since it means she ether has to fight bosses with miasma or be tied to the hip to one of three characters and that hasn't been the case with either of the other two void hunters.
Lend me some misasma Creator. This is base Eous we're up against
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The devs gotta work real hard if they want to make me wanna play Shunko. But to be fair, they managed that quite easily with Shifu back in the day.
Me and my bunny wife >>1250523 This guy was neat, but my favorite were the hollow raiders who let you open a box and get all the rewards because they think it's a trap, then later on when you open another box and it's actually a giant crab trap they help you fight it.
>>1251440 doesn't take much for you to give in
Seeing this discussion about Ye Shunguang depending on Zhao, just remembering that one of the disks, which is the Idols' disk at the moment, is focused on Ether Veil, so I wouldn't be surprised if they make one of the Idols Ye BIS.
>>1251428 >seems to be sub DPS since AA is on switching in Or they could be returning to burst DPS for a change after everyone in the past year being an on-fielder. Would also make sense with Zhao's apparent sub-DPS potential and Dialyn burst stunning.
>>1251428 I guess that'll work if they manage to make tag assist not suck, still means the only way we get EV for her to activate her AA normally would be to make Rina have it or add an A rank that can do it free like one of the idols. >>1251432 You can farm KOTS even if the new sets don't come with her. And then 2 pc woodpecker because she scaled critchance into impact I think. So woodpecker only if you want to eb conservative until you have a solid crit chance disc or two zero adjacent wps, and KOTS in case she gets no alt. Worse case you just throw the KOTS set on somebody else.
>>1251445 Were the Disc descriptions datamined? I thought it was just the names and images
>>1251445 Discs effects aren't listed on Hakush.in so they're not in the files so it's bullshit.
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I have 42 of the 43 Agents in this game and there are characters that I NEVER see their random trust events show up. I literally cannot remember the last time I've seen Seth show up on the overworld. He must be tuned waaaaay down
>>1251448 Yea, she's probably a burst DPS which makes sense with her being an Attacker, likely with the idea that she's able to quickly burst down miasma shields and do big damage during the stun after which would explain why it activates when miasma field does.
>>1251434 Which boss doesn't have miasma now?
>>1251463 At the moment all the new bosses have it but we don't know how that's going to be in future content like 3.0 and beyond.
>>1251445 The disc effects are just speculation, we still have to see what they do
>>1251460 if you do a trust event call they show up more often I think. There are some events that are super rare however, like the Lycaon one when he's at the playground, or the Hugo one with Lycaon where he's at the playground.
>>1251444 I really liked the >行けって
>>1251463 All DA bosses pre 2.0
>>1251452 >>1251455 Sorry, I thought it was the effects, so we'll still have to wait for another beta update to find out what they're going to do...
How much do you guys spend in this game? I'm thinking paying for the BP but the rewards still suck ass. They almost never changed anything in it and the wengines are almost useless compared to the alternative.
>>1251451 >Back to farming KOTS again after finally getting a good set for Trigger I want off from the Rolands Wild Ride
>>1251466 For that time they will come up with new mechanics they will be selling new agents with antiimechanic for. Chinese Miyabi is not the end of ZZZ thank god. >>1251475 So none they are going to shill her with.
>>1251482 The BP is actually second in value to the monthly in terms of $ to poly, and you get a bunch of resources on top. You guys underrate the BP.
>>1251482 Been buying monthly since 2.0 and also bought a pack then to commemorate how much I've enjoyed the game in the first year. BP seems like a massive waste when the resources only make any difference if you're rolling every agent and the balls are all either straight up trash or decent but outclassed by standard S-ranks.
>>1251482 Aren't the lips good for almost every single anomaly character though?
>>1251129 Maybe I'm missing something, but what's the point of this?
>>1251482 I started in 2.0 and I've spent like 150, 80 of which were just on trigger's ball lol
>>1251482 Monthly + BP every month since launch, also a few hundo in topups (all in Yen of course)
>>1251487 Considering that they are bringing old agents up to speed for new content I doubt they would a new one that only works for certain content, really the Void Hunter that they want to hype up. Miyabi works on lots of content and teams, Yixuan works on lots of content and teams and Ye currently is stuck with a small team roster and content that is subject to end soon. I just don't see them going with.
>>1251493 I think there's a cap on stored power, so this would let people who don't play often convert it into batteries
I buy the BP whenever I get luckfag my rolls, since the gambling makes me impulse buy. >>1251493 Let's you save up even more batteries. You can turn the overcap batteries into an actual battery to keep in your inventory. So you use them whenever new farmable stuff gets released
>>1251482 I buy a monthly for every character I like and want more of, so $5 so far
>>1251491 I'm kind of the opposite. I stopped paying the BP before 2.0 because I'm upset that they changed the initial direction they were going for. I want to larp as ebic haxx0rman, not a glorified government informant (professional snitch). Might buy for the BP again if it really is cheaper than just outright buying polys in the store.
>>1251482 monthly + maxxxxx bp since 1.0, and however much for topups
>>1251482 I don't spend money on censored games
>>1251499 I think if anything, this means we'll be seeing more of EV as a mechanic agents get. Afterall they just added Ablooms to Grace, and counters to S11, so it means they want to start adding more formerly exclusive mechancis to old and new agents.
>>1251493 If you don't want to farm daily you can convert energy into batteries instead of letting it overflow at 1/3 efficiency and hit a hard cap eventually. >>1251139 Didn't they say they're removing the refreshing part of Devon's shop in 2.4?
>>1251493 idk, but I assume it has something to do with "batteries can now be swept" whatever that means
>>1251511 A-rank billy will get Aftershock attacks
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Right, if everyone gets an Abloom, why shouldn't S11's BA5 explosion be an Aftershock?
>>1251493 I wasted my life savings on like 50 of those Fairy cards thinking I could use them to clear the hardmode story stages, but they're completely useless. Happy I can turn them into something now
>>1251511 They added Abloom to Burnice too. Also not saying Rina getting an Ether veil added is out of the question, but I feel like there's a difference in that Ether veil is just a new flavour of buff application while Abloom is a poorly designed overpowered mechanic that powercreeps off-field Anomaly as a concept.
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>>1251482 always montly, bp if i need the dennies (almost never) and i whale out for cunny
Every Anomaly agent shall get Abloom and be Bibisimilated
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>>1251525 >Rina getting an Ether veil >PEN% scaling support >gets to activate a mostly Rupture-focused mechanic Yep, it'll be Rina, I can see it now.
>>1251513 >"batteries can now be swept" whatever that means Maybe they're adding sweep but it can only be done with batteries, kinda like how in Genshit when you have condensed resin you can't un-condense it and can only spend it for domain rewards.
>>1251514 Forbidden voidhunter billy maybe >>1251525 >They added Abloom to Burnice too. Oh neat >Also not saying Rina getting an Ether veil added is out of the question, but I feel like there's a difference in that Ether veil is just a new flavour of buff application while Abloom is a poorly designed overpowered mechanic that powercreeps off-field Anomaly as a concept. I don't, it feels like abloom is the natural conclusion of off field anomaly outside of combining it as a weird aftershock thing for anomaly. >>1251524 but those are so easy to do, you might as well just finish it yourself. >>1251532 basically what I'm thinking since pen supports ye well and Zhao doesn't even do that, and it'd leave room for a physical based version of Rina that does what she does only better.
>>1251532 >a mostly Rupture-focused mechanic Nothing about Ether veil is fundamentally Rupture focused. Ether veil: health is but they could just as easily add Ether veil: attack or Ether veil: ER or Ether veil: attack speed etc.
I wouldn't mind having an excuse to finally use Rina. I used my anniversary selector for her M1 but I never really played her
ABLOOMS ARE VIVIAN'S AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA STOP THIS SHAM
>>1251492 I think the only one who uses it better than Fusion compiler is Jane because of her obscene EX special cost.
Now add Totalize for Zhu
>>1251541 I intended on finishing them myself, like, back in 1.2 I've got shit to do
>>1251548 Wait for the buff queue to reach Bibian and she'll have Ultra-Ablooms
>>1251548 If Vivian's abloom is being given out like candy, then perhaps Hugo's TOTALIZE could be given to Bill? No, NO. It's a forbidden technique. >>1251556 It takes like a day or two max, I did it when I started. The only thing that's time consuming is the hidden commission dungeon crawler and the arpeggio fault stuff. Just bang it out on the shitter or something.
>>1251554 I can't decide if I want this or not
The Jane buffs will go crazy
>>1251554 that would be weird...so you magdump on stun and finish it off with a totalize ex? or just forego the magdump entirely? doesn't seem like it would do much more damage, but I guess it would let you rotate qy back in faster and get to the next stun
i will now proceed to eat 2 bacon sandwiches with mashed eggs and baked potatoes + half a litter of whole milk. if only i could add some chinatsu pussy juice to the mix ...
rina buff: she can max out her buff >>1251554 >>1251563 hugo's entire kit is totalize, giving it to characters that already have something going for them doesn't make much sense
Give corn totalize
Give me corn
Miyabi should get Ablooms and Totalize and the ability to freeze unfreezable enemies and ignore ice damage resistance
Give Corn scrotalize
i think we should slit corns throat to see her funny reaction
Be nice to corn
I think we should give corn headpats and hold her hand to see her funny reaction
Jane should get a new Ex Special and i-frames on her spin attack
we hate (love) Corn here
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I really hope we get an ice aftershock attacker in the future, that way zhao will be the one and only 24 karat billion damage lebabu
clapping corns cheeks Mercilessly as she chants "im sorry!!" "im sorry!!" "im so sorry!!"
I bet nobody here knows Corin's full name You only know corn for the rape
>>1251669 she is a pretty wicked girl
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>>1251669 corn wikis
>>1251669 Corin Quickes because she cums fast
>>1251669 Corin Lawrence
>>1251669 Corn Wickes. Sounds like a tasty cereal
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This is me
>>1251702 you're a loli robot made for me?
>>1251704 Dem lolis getting large these days
Oh hello there
FACTS: belion mk2 will have an ether veil setting ability, but he'll be the first limited bangboo
is that earring?
>>1251724 Why did they dress her up like a prostitute? What's her hourly rate?
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>>1251730 Shungy is a pure maiden!
>>1251736 pure sex
>>1251716 I went back and watched the cutscene like twenty times between now and my last post lol
Do we know if Zhao's buffs apply to a single agent or if they apply to the whole team depending on everyone's role? From the wording it seems like if you run Zhao and 2 Anomaly characters, then Zhao would give 120 AP and 0.76 ER to everyone in the team which is kinda bonkers
>you can see her thigh through the dress flap Wow, that's some...translucent fabric
is it true that .se already dead?
>>1251752 SEssy is a jobber moeGODS rule this place now
>>1251482 Monthly and BP since I started on 1.1. I really hate myself for it since it's the epitome of wasted money, but I can afford it, it's basically my only leisure expense, and I really like the game. I still hate myself for it, cause it'll never actually help me do something actually worth the money invested over time, like getting all the characters/siggies because it's still too little for how much luck can fuck you up.
>>1251751 Her name is literally Yay Slutbang, are you surprised?
I saw this on xitter and now you must too
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RERUN NEVER!
>>1251772 Good. They don't deserve her
>>1251767 I was not familiar with her game yet
>>1251749 It reads to me like it's agent-specific.
>>1251769 That was me (not actually me) I played like absolute ass all 3 bosses and got barely 20k. I interrupted that one with Shock and whatever like 3 times and only got 2 impairs. Also, I was surprised that Alice is so strong that she can beat Priest with no issues even when she has considerably higher anomaly buildup resistance. Also, I just went through the threads from last night and so much for no-one having a meltdown.
>>1251791 >I was surprised that Alice is so strong that she can beat Priest with no issues even when she has considerably higher anomaly buildup resistance. I beat defiler with Alice, she's real strong even when the boss is anti anomaly
>>1251772 >>1251777 they should rerun, but it will only be available for users who mainly use anby on all their battles
>>1251769 it's over, ZZZ hp inflation and sheer shilling is destroying the natural habitat of shitters, without shitters the fragile gacha eco system collapses entirely and the game will Eous soon >>1251791 >so much for no-one having a meltdown. I never signed an anti melty agreement, I'll melty if I so choose
>>1251749 >when zhao in [ether veil] the whole squad gains different buffs based on their specialty i mean it said whole squad so it may be everyone even include herself
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>>1251488 nice get
>>1251769 Damn nigga, are they all underleveled or something? I got a better Typhon score than that with my Corn Soukaku Lycaon from before I had enough agents for three decent teams.
>>1251769 Orphie actually will flinch Typhon out of doing his lunge attack with her full heat special, I know Seed is still enough to carry but having tried it with Obol shoutai myself it's pretty easy to cuck yourself out of the performance points It's like Miyabi permaflinching Butcher so you don't get points for dodging
>>1251749 It's worded kinda strangely in the original Chinese, so I would wait and see.
>>1251810 Oh, I see, they didn't get any performance points. That's... marginally better?
does anyone have a hp distribution graph for the bosses in DA? i swear the last 10k is more difficult to hit than the first 30k.
>Santa Claus = Christmas >Krampus is Santa Claus's counterpart >Zhao is part of Krampus >free Agent around Christmas My brain is expanding
>>1251736 She's still a virgin if her amnesia makes her forget every time she gets spitroasted each night
she looks so tired why is she still working this late?
>>1251856 That's Miyabi who mindlessly walks everywhere though
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>>1251863 Also Yidhari
>>1251860 hustle is who she is
>>1251855 One free caesar
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Is it true that there will be a coop mode soon? And clubs? t. living under a rock when it comes to this game
>>1251860 New Eridu is in a Cost Of Living crisis, you need to work multiple minimum wage jobs a day just to get by
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>>1251873 yes to both
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>>1251873 Yup, in 2.5 (around new years)
>>1251874 idk what you're talking about it's only 100 quadrillion dennies per square cm of living space, a bargain!
>>1250542 You're a fucking idiot the fact that you dont understand that People who liked SEED the Mecha would not enjoy getting rug pulled like that despite it dont hate Flora at all, shes simply just not what shes looking for and thats all Hoyos fault.
I want to fuck the bnnuy cnnuy
>>1251855 also the whole moon rabbit/lunar new year angle.... still don't think we're getting anything for free
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I would have sex with zhao if you KNOW what i mean... hehehhe...
>>1251887 You're mentally ill. t. A sneedFag since 1.0
feels good to have known seed was going to be a cute girl since the first trailer
>>1251894 hmm nyo i don't think so
I enjoy Sjal events. Maybe if we're lucky she changes her hair color again in next patch and we get more Sjal content.
>>1251895 yeah Iam the nigga thats mentally ill and not you slandering people who wanted a cool as machine. People dont hate her they simply wanted the machine its not that hard to believe.
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do you think i could wait enough for them to kill the ethereals while in dialogue?
They should kill off Flora instead of Shifu to make the story good
I hate Seed and I don't care for the machine.
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Damianbros..... SVVN
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>>1250154 He actually added a flat chested toggle
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walked past lucia today and she smelled like shit
>>1251913 The Damian/Zhao duo unit dream is dead, but I hope they make him playable with her eventually Doesn't seem like it'll be anytime soon though with idols seemingly after 2.5
>>1251919 Saw HOSHIMI Miyabi herself getting her flat ass trained by spanking and she said it was her training
>>1251921 Why do so many people want to ruin Damian's character by turning him into a thug?
>>1251904 How long is it? I really do not care for Lucia at all. I'm skimming this at best.
>>1251921 Damian drip tomorrow bwi
Walked past Officer MewMew relaxing on a bench, he smelled of sweat and he was moving weirdly...
>>1251926 yeah, by me >>1251936 The season 2 trailer already shows him in HIA gear fighting Ethereals with Zhao, it's only a question of HOW he gets to that point and not when
>>1251936 people also wanted to ruin sarah by turning her into an agent, that's just how the genre works
>>1251943 The trailer shows him standing around in HIA gear. There's nothing to suggest he's fighting.
>>1251938 same, i put it away for a while but i gotta get those polys now
now that we know she is defense. on a scale from yes to brick, how bricked is she?
>>1251936 I don't see why wanting him playable means wanting him to be a thug >>1251921 They have to do something with him, otherwise his appearance with Zhao in that trailer doesn't make any sense. He wore some HIA outfit or something
>>1251960 looks fun/10
>>1251948 you could say his arms are positioned like he's holding a rifle, but yeah it's ambiguous
>>1251960 winning/10
>>1251948 I misremembered his scene as being right after the one where Zhao's stretching over a corpse, but regardless, making him playable doesn't mean he has to be a "thug". There's plenty of movesets you could give him that'd work thematically, or even goofy ones.
>>1251960 good but off-field/10
>>1251960 Either completely bricked or completely broken, no in-between
>>1251961 >otherwise his appearance with Zhao in that trailer doesn't make any sense That'd be the... 5th season 2 trailer appearance not making any sense?
>>1251961 Still holding out that Damian is a non-agent member of Krampus, the "Blackwoods" branches that seek out bad actors Dailyn compiles complaints, Damian infiltrates and finds proof of wrongdoing, and Zhao is the harbinger
wonder what season 3's trailer will be like, maybe less mystery
>>1251960 She gets me brickedup/10
>>1251986 It's good to see you again... Phaeton
>>1251992 We've never met...
>>1251961 rewritten for sure
>>1251992 romantic story time
>>1251960 constant panties flashing/10
>>1251993 Then this is the most romantic meeting like none that has come before
>>1251652 >press attack for spin during a certain time then EX for the shadow Jane cross rush for a mini assault proc Fixed the rat
>>1251992 bird thirens...
>>1251986 I’m confident we’re headed for the Throne Quarter next, so probably a lot of posh high society characters like Alice. It would be fun if we also had a bunch of hobos and criminal agents as a contrast. I think we’re in need of some morally grey characters.
>>1252003 eating Elysia's omelete...
You'll buy her $300 wedding dress skin and level 5 trust event, right?
>>1252009 The amount of for (You) pandering Shaoji could do in ZZZ... is terrifying
Just to be clear, the devs opened the door for at least a year of stale shitposting just by mentioning there's going to be a returning character in the future?
>>1252009 the $300 price tag needs to also include a sex scene for me to care
>>1252004 I hope we get more Mockingbird characters. Two members isn't really much of a Thieves Guild
>>1251960 My whole roster is bricked, might as well add one more
>>1252013 They did that after Sanby was dripped, this was just putting a drop of gasoline on that fire. Also S-BILLY SOON
>"I'm sorry Wise, Belle. For putting all this on you." >"But perhaps that was always destiny for you, who bear the name...Khaslana."
I already pulled brickhari, another more brick in the wall can't hurt too much
>>1252023 >another more Gotta stop shitposting while I'm busy
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>>1252022 I WILL BEAR THE WEIGHT OF THE WORLD
>>1252031 >Ellen >Goth
>>1252016 As far as European folklore monsters are concerned, we already have Werewolf, Frankenstein, Ghost/Specter, Vampire and Banshee represented. What else could they add to Mockingbird to stay in line with the monster theme? I think it would be fun to have a reptilian Thiren representing Nessie.
Idol bros I truly don't want to hurt you but I really hope that new disk set is for defenders so I can use it on Zhao and not have to farm Astral/Swing for her
>>1252037 [spoiler][spoiler]Fairy.[/spoiler][/spoiler]
>>1252038 Start grinding now and you'll have extra gold-disk fodder for when they change her beta-kit and force you to build _AP on a defender
>>1252038 You're just gonna run KotS on idols
>>1252037 Dryad, fairy/pixie, mummy, zombie, lamia
>>1252038 the set doesn't even specify a specific class, just makes it clear that there will be an HP scaling idol with ether veil mechanics
>>1252044 I'll tell you more, the set doesn't specify anything because it doesn't exist in the beta yet
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>>1252037 They had all of the media-staple monsters covered with Victoria Housekeeping and Hugo, and then they went with a Banshee for Vivian, which is rather obscure compared to all the other monster inspirations. So I'd say they're not too worried about using more obscure mythos in future, and with that mindset they have a plethora of possible inspirations from Europe
>>1252037 Witch, grim reaper
>>1252021 I'm also a Silly believer. Mostly because dropping him before 3.0 VH-tier would be par for the course now.
>>1252050 A Witch would be stepping on Grace's toes (Babayaga/Ice-cold Witch or whatever her nickname is)
>>1252041 I've been stockpiling, I was just hoping to use it on a Zhao set not on Astral... again, maybe if it's got Ether Veil or HP drain on the 4p I can use it anyways, for now I have a sliver of hope at least
>>1252053 iron witch I think it was
>>1252053 Iron witch is just the name of her story, not her actual nickname There is yet to be an actual witch
They're going to make a witch Agent and fuck it up by not giving her a giant hat
>>1252044 Or it could be like 1.6, introducing Vivian's disk set a patch before Vivian's release, and it wasn't that useful for anyone at that point. Trigger had to wait until 2.0 to get a set that actually benefits her kit properly
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>>1250756 She's specifically like 5% better with Evelyn and Hugo because they're, or at least Eve can be, burst agents Obviously better for Yid and Banyue because her passive activates and his doesn't, she's pretty close to Fufu in these teams. For every other fire/ice agent I think Lighter is still better She's good, but she's like within 10% of every other stunner on any team besides anomaly good. I feel like people are hyping her up and expecting to get much higher scores with her, but that won't be the case for anyone besides Shifu, M2 Hugo, and maybe Yebibi. >>1251300 >>1251303 Priest removes parry cooldowns when he does the super fast parry chain, you wouldn't be able to do it otherwise. When he's doing that and you have 1 evasive assist character in the team just spam it, it will automatically choose your 2 defensive assist characters. When she does the 3 parry finisher you have to manually choose the 2 defensive assist characters. So forward swap > back swap > forward swap.
>>1252056 It is her actual nickname
>>1252056 Betty actually called her iron witch.
>>1252061 Is it? Iirc only that one lady that considers her a nemesis calls her that
>>1252037 Pied Piper isn't a monster but it feels like a good fit for Mockingbird
What would be the Zhao team? The usual Astra+Nicole?
2AM IN CHINA AND THEY'RE NOT WORKING SOMEONE HIRE A TRUCK AND PUT IT BLASTING MUSIC IN FRONT OF EVERY DEV'S DOOR WE NEED TO SEE YE SHUNGUANG ANIMATIONS TODAY T O D A Y
>>1252066 It's shaping up to be Dialyn/Yebibi/Zhao
All 3 idols will have their own dedicated disk set. >Yutane's disk set in 2.5 >Yutane and one other idol releases in 2.6 >Last remaining idol releases in 2.7, alongside Rokudo and Chinatsu's disksets
>>1252064 It's what her classmates, including her rival, called her, I don't think anyone at Belobog uses it though so I guess it's an old nickname
>>1252066 You can bust out the Lycaon for Ice Shred, Soukaku for Ice DMG+ATK, Fufu for CritDMG, Astra for ATK, whatever will work that buffs her like any usual suspect
>>1252037 If Victoria can get American horror movies, then all bets are off I want a Sadako Mockingbird agent that has tits that rival Rina's.
>>1252073 She should be flat fuck you nigger
>>1252069 this would be peak
>>1252066 If you want to use her as a DPS then Orphie is pretty much mandatory
>>1252076 Tallflat is good too
>>1252078 All 3 disks are parallel to actual songs they'll release irl
>>1252066 >The usual Astra+Nicole Bro living in 1.5. And no, her best DPD team is probably Lycaon+Orphie, Orphie is pretty much irreplaceable because Zhao only activates her passive with DPS classes in the team. Her best team in general is probably gonna be Yebibi+Dialyn.
>>1252069 please just 1/2 disk sets that work well on all of them like shadow harmony. i dont want to grind 3 different mines
>>1251554 No, that's sounds awful. Why the fuck you would want that? Just make her passive affects more than her basic attack, make her bullets do AoE damage and give her a new form to reload.
>>1252080 >Sadako themed Mockingbird agent >The hacker of Mockingbird (uses retro TV monitors like Phaethon) >Is an awkward shut-in hikikomori MAKE. IT. REAL.
>>1252068 >>1252072 >>1252079 >>1252082 then I will go for Dialyn/Orphie/Zhao Maybe change Orphie for Whorebibi depending on how much time on-field Yebibi requires
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holy
>>1252098 I hope Ye is just Orphie 2.0 so I can keep my Orphie with my Sanby but I know deep down that won't be the case
>>1252004 >we’re headed for the Throne Quarter next funny thing about that. I'd be down for morally grey, assuming they can pull it off and it doesn't cause melties for their asian players.
>want dialyn, banyue, zhao, ye (if she's unskippable like miyabi), idols maybe >can't spend money on gacha how did we survive 1.X with 7 great patches in a row
>>1252099 he's me fr
>>1252109 I'm entirely feelscrafting but I'd say she'll be tag/burst so you onfield your Zhao/Dialyn for buffs/stun while tag assisting in Ye Shunguang without actually fielding her and then using Ye Shunguang for the burst window for her ults
>>1252111 Start believing in the 'Zhao is Free' theory
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okay that's funny
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I NEED ZHAO NAO AIEEEEEEEE
>>1252079 >>1252082 >>1252098 isn't zhao's additional ability just 30% increased damage for the team right now? if the goal is to make zhao do as much damage as she can dropping that to use astra instead sounds good in my book
Got recommended Yidhari onsen ASMR https://www.twitch.tv/riza
>>1252136 Feels really gay to watch a man puppet an anime avatar to jerk off
>>1252115 My feelscraft is that she'll do okay-ish damage without her passive, but sword intent buffs everything bigly. EX specials will benefit the most. So ether veil let's her on-field (use sword intent on basic attacks), no ether veil forces burst (only EX), and either way she's made to brutally molest a boss coming out of miasma.
>>1252136 Feels really gay to watch a man
>>1252136 >700 people watching this I get ASMR to sleep but what the fuck is this. They ban men from even wearing a tanktop but you can literally do what. pazuri ASMR roleplay? I hate twitch.
>>1252111 either pray she's free, or start swiping
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Am I the only one here who watches vtuber ASMR every other day to relax?
>>1252153 You have ears?
>>1252155 Visual ASMR hits different
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Behold
bun...
>>1252165 The pantyless mods are going to be grand
Grandma...
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>>1252046 >chadchad_chad_zero.png
>>1252092 Idk why spook shack didn't have any bootleg sadako, it's my one gripe...
>>1252172 oddly specific grudgepost
How many poly 2.4?
>>1252208 one Zhaollion
>>1252208 Millions if you buy them.
>>1250654 Ok I'm awake and I let The Wheel™ decide between the 4 way tie and Jalapenos won
>>1252208 At least 2
>>1252218 what kind of subhuman puts more tomatoes as a pizza topping
>>1252223 Domino's
>>1252218 Add pepperoni with the jalapenos
>>1252172 kek, glad someone had it saved, I lost this post but had burnice gif with that name
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Lucy gear doko
>>1252235 Makes her piggies do mega damage
>>1252235 Makes her piggies merge
>>1252235 Why is her butthole wet uhhhh yuck
I accidentally trashed my astral set. Can I use moonlight lullaby on astra instead? How bad is it?
Zhao is killing me.....
>>1252247 Sorry, couldn't help myself.
>>1252235 Sorry, Lucy is forgotten in 11/2025 for being (You)crept and A-rank
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>>1252231 I actually thought of that post some time ago too but couldn't find it. Now that I saw your filename I only searched for chad and here we are kek
>>1252271 Really funny that entire mv took over the internet for about a week and burnice ended up doing absolutely nothing in the story
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>haven't done any trusts in 2 weeks >haven't done Seth trusts at all >Seth suddenly wants to meet at waterfall soup today
>>1252271 we will retvrn to bvrn >>1252275 Seems to be ZZZ in a nutshell. I wonder when she'll be relevant again after they teased her backstory as being grimdark. >>1252282 just finish all your trusts completely for those poly, dennies, and chips
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>>1252283 I'm NOT going on a dinner date with that FAG.
>>1252284 >not getting a cofee with your friend because you're afraid you'll be gay you might actually be gay
>>1252284 Based
>>1252271 Only zzz ohgees remember waitressposting Also breakfastposting
>>1252295 >breakfastposting aiiieeeee i'm gonna melty
good morning, zhaostatus?
>>1252295 The bartender poster was funny, I miss him.
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>>1252316 It was really eye opening seeing just what kind of atrocity people (mainly burgers) were eating first thing in the morning
>>1252305 >mfw zhao CUTE CUTE CUTE CUUUUUUTE AND FUNNY AND DANGEROUS AND ALSO CUUUUUTE
>>1252337 You're looking at a 70% DPS loss
>man i hope ether veil bullshit is gone after lucia patch >zhao is ether veil >yebibi is ether veil >new ether veil disc set that suggests idols might use ether veil too
>>1252340 do you not like any of those agents? Also don't worry zhao will be FREE
>>1252340 whats wrong with the mechanic? the only reason to hate it is if you're skipping every single ether veil agent and cant access buffs
>people still believing the disc drive leaks when the effect's not on hakushin
there's gonna be a helluva melty when zhao isn't free
there's gonna be a helluva melty when zhao is free
>>1252340 I saw this coming the other day when I pointed out the only way to use the current Shiyu buff on both sides was to split up Lucia and yiddy. I mean I didn't expect Zhao to have ether veil, but I did expect more characters with it sooner rather than later.
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>>1252340 >>1252343 Ether veil idols is obvious regardless of discsets, I'd bet three fifty it was their mechanic first. Special stage effect with unique vfx, perfect for when they all dance and sing on field.
>>1252354 It also just makes sense to shroud the area in their "delusion"
Heres yuore free christmas agent gweilo
>>1252340 I think veil is more annoying than astra's singing
>>1252354 I'm getting Orphie is rupture flashbacks
i swear the way gacha communities interact with buzzwords is so strange, I guess there just isnt much processing power so they keep thinking to a minimum, but still people will see the word "ether veil" and just automatically categorize it as slop in their mind even though it literally is just a combat mechanic people will see the word "defense" and automatically melty and not read anything zhao does
>>1252372 Reading is hard.
Ether veil is slop because it turns Yiddy's tentacles transparent and it looks stupid
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>>1252368 I would be very happy with free CHADmian
>>1252368 >s rank Damien support this is great, everyone like Damien. >>1252372 Not me, seeing Zhao was defense made me excited that they figured out how to make that class good.
You saw nothing. >>1252251 It's probably fine. I don't know for sure but Astra's energized swaps should count as "launching" an EX Special,
>>1252368 >S-rank attacker damian that focuses on making Zhao the Main dps I actually Damian so I wouldn't mind if this happened
>>1252388 Hi Damian!
>>1252372 I don't like permanent screen clutter as a combat mechanic
>>1252340 ether veil is pretty much just a way for supports to feel more impactful which is nice, the shilling for just lucia/murphy is pretty obnoxious for now though,
>>1252388 >I actually Damian Yes, you are
>>1252388 @Fairy, is this real?
>>1252392 >>1252397 >>1252399 It's over for me
>>1251749 That would actually be pretty crazy. I really really hope this is the case.
>>1252410 I'm kinda leaning towards that being the case because I don't see why she would give supports 540 atk otherwise
>>1252393 It's on the edges of the screen
>>1252372 Agreed, it's insane how some people fixate on the defense part except for how it impacts disks and wengines. It's more important to focus on her bricked buffs.
>>1252218 Honestly kinda lame, I was expecting it to look way more crazy but ig they dont want to waste that many ingredients on one pizza. Having a couple slices with my wife Nicole
>>1252415 And so is the enemy or warning lights, at times.
>>1252416 Her buffs are secondary to her smashing face with her TCS
I will not read Zhao's kit. I will roll for her regardless of what she does and have fun with her.
>>1252417 Well? How does it taste?
>>1252418 >warning lights There's also a sound cue for that too
>>1252416 Her buffs are a bit underwhelming (but also generalist) but that's like saying orphie's 700 atk is underwhelming (which a lot of people did say and completely ignored oh wait damage is a thing in this game)
>>1252417 if you want it big you need to order local, no way around it
>>1252424 Often drowned out in combat
>>1252417 that's a good lookin pizzer im getting hungry
>>1252423 Not bad
>>1252416 Her buffs are all fine, and I think she gets another buff with her ex attacks aside from her core passive and then whatever her disc set is. She's maybe slightly worse than a main support but she goes everywhere. >>1252425 Orphie just needs equal sheer buff to her attack and I'd forgive her.
>>1252372 >people will see the word "ether veil" and just automatically categorize it as slop in their mind even though it literally is just a combat mechanic You don't get it, this is a new mechanic that wasn't in the game at launch so I'll base my personality on hating on it.
>>1252433 >She's maybe slightly worse than a main support but she goes everywhere. Astra goes everywhere. This generalist cope is ridiculous.
>>1252393 yeah I wish there was a declutter mode that brings it back to zyl's original intention for the visuals, I have no idea what the fuck is going on half the time >>1252429 also the sound for red and yellow is the same. wish they'd change that
>>1251482 Like 400 eurobucks, maybe a bit more. I have bought all doubled packs once (the refreshed anniversary ones are my emergency idol funds), 7 or 8 battle passes, some of the timed extra bundless and I have had the monthly active since launch.
>>1252441 Astra does significantly worse with sheer, and you can simply use her with Astra since you can't have two.
Junior, I have assumed the position. Begin the trial of the heart.
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>>1252436 GIVE ME MORE ZHAO
>>1252441 Astra doesn't give class unique buffs
>>1252441 Astra also can't main dps which clearly is built in the power budget
>>1252433 She just heals with special, buffs only come from passive. Makes me wonder if Yebibi has health drain too.
>>1252448 Zhao's sheer buff is lower than Pan's. The opportunity cost of rolling Zhao is an agent that will actually do their job well, or even just using an A rank. >>1252454 A bit of extra attack on a support doesn't make a difference. The impact bonus on stunners may be counterproductive. The crit damage on attackers is meh. >>1252455 >Astra also can't main dps which clearly is built in the power budget We'll see. Her M1 positions her further as a support.
>>1252462 >Her M1 positions her further as a support. Her M1 buffs her as well and swapping off is something you should be doing during animation downtime which she has on her TCS
>>1252414 She could turn into an ultra flexible BiS character.for off-meta teams.
>>1252462 >Zhao's sheer buff is lower than Pan's. The opportunity cost of rolling Zhao is an agent that will actually do their job well, or even just using an A rank. But that's wrong unless you get m6 Pan, and again you can only have one Pan, she also grants ether veil which is a further damage increase since it boosts maximum health and provides a bigger damage buff that's easier to apply than Pan's chi drain. This is also not accounting for her much better engine or any of her mindscapes, as well as her personal damage. >We'll see. Her M1 positions her further as a support. Lighter's m1 does the same except he can also DPS like Zhao can. You're losing such a miniscule amount of buffs by using her versus specialist supports and you can use her in tandem with them.
>>1252461 I missed out on being abused by a hot teacher
>>1252462 She's clearly being designed as a hybrid unit, comparing her buffs alone to EX bots is disingenuous. If this is hard to understand for you idk what to tell you you can be like the orphie doomposters calling her underwhelming all beta and then she came out and melted faces
Aids. Also lol doing a yanagi hypercarry team got me less points on the electric weak typhon than just miyab-ing it
>>1252482 It's training, not abuse
>>1252462 the difference is that she buffs the other two members of the party in class-specific ways instead of just buffing a hypercarry >>1252483 yeah and she's designed as a team buffer who works with every class, as opposed to just buffing the dps, which I think will really help teams that have A ranks, standard S ranks, and older limiteds who have fallen off a bit of course they might change her kit based on feedback, so getting invested on what she does now is silly
>>1252489 Interrupt is an op buff and takes advantage of meebs stupid multipliers
>>1252481 is her name really xiao zhao because that just adds to the cuteness
>>1252481 >unless you get m6 Pan Yes that is a normal comparison point for A-ranks >and again you can only have one Pan You don't need a million supports. Astra will give you a lot more mileage as a "generalist" and Pan does his job for Rupture. >>1252483 >She's clearly being designed as a hybrid unit, comparing her buffs alone to EX bots is disingenuous. If this is hard to understand for you idk what to tell you you can be like the orphie doomposters calling her underwhelming all beta and then she came out and melted faces Ironic when you turn around and compare her to an off-field EX bot named Orphie. Orphie also got last-minute buffs without which the criticism was more justified. I'm commenting on what we see, obviously her kit will change over the course of the beta. >>1252493 >the difference is that she buffs the other two members of the party in class-specific ways instead of just buffing a hypercarry Buffing the stunner doesn't matter
>>1252505 >faster stuns doesn't matter what
>>1252501 close enough, welcome back Zhu
I finally got 4star weight class for all the fishes.
>>1252507 Faster stuns are less impactful and can even be harmful if you can't farm enough resources on your DPS.
>>1252501 Xiao just means "little", it's a common 'cute' way to refer to girls in Chinese, seems more likely to be a nickname
>>1252501 I don't know, but I do know her little feet have squish physics from her intro and that's cute. >>1252505 >Yes that is a normal comparison point for A-ranks But not everybody will have M6 Pan and her buff trumps it regardless so your point is arbitrary. >You don't need a million supports. Astra will give you a lot more mileage as a "generalist" and Pan does his job for Rupture. You do actually, since most content requires you to run a limited support in several teams and they're changing SD to require another. You also want more than one support on hypercarry teams which some people do indeed want. You trying and failing to handwave her effectiveness as an off support or main DPS isn't working when she provides better buffs all around than most A ranks M6 and close to limited S ranks.
>>1252483 >idk what to tell you you can be like the orphie doomposters calling her underwhelming all beta and then she came out and melted faces but orphie is underwhelming
>>1252489 Inflicting shock on typhoon stuns it for a couple of seconds. This has no benefit to a team and it's actively a detriment in this encounter. Mainly, it delays typhoon's suicidal triple parry into impairment move. >neko, pulchra and monato on the board based
>>1252505 >Ironic when you turn around and compare her to an off-field EX bot named Orphie you missed the point entirely. the orphie doomposters were saying "she's useless without aftershock because her buffs run out and her buffs aren't even good". every agent is released with a power budget, and orphie's power budget was weighted heavily into her personal damage, which doomposters couldn't quantify. i'm not comparing orphie's gameplay to zhao at all, just the percieved power levels I swear these communities give me brain cancer. people will be like "why are all our buffers just EX bots what the fuck booooring" and then when hoyo starts to make one in v1 of a beta where the power budget is allocated less to being an EX bot and more of on-fielding and taking advantage of your support's kit people will start chimping out comparing her to astra
>>1252436 Incomprehensibly based and looneypilled.
>>1252513 Perlman...
>>1252524 >koleda
>>1252524 >koleda over lighter ??????????
>>1252524 Wandering Hunter has ridiculously high def and to get past it you need Orphies ball + more def shred or res shred. If you used Lighter instead of Koleda you probably would've done fine.
>>1252533 >>1252536 >muh lighter I'm not saying Orphie is underwhelming but cmon bros
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>>1252518 yeah but if it's her real name that would be over the top and I'm for it >>1252520 I love her intro and how she almost loses her big sword
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So how are they gonna buff 'leda? And since Grace & S11 are both getting new animations, what are they gonna give her?
>>1252542 in all seriousness wandering hunter is just a retarded boss for pure attack agents because of the def. eve with koleda/astra probably only scores 2-3k higher. you can try running pen ratio + def shred from the orphie ball and it probably performs better
her big sword that's like a paring knife to an adult human that is, I'm zhaoing out over here
>>1252520 >But not everybody will have M6 Pan and her buff trumps it regardless so your point is arbitrary. It's a standard comparison and one which makes a lot of sense for people planning their pulls. Someone concerned with their power level is screwing themselves by pulling a limited who's only marginally better than an A-rank. >most content requires you to run a limited support lol no >You also want more than one support on hypercarry teams And most people do indeed have a collection of supports and stunners for this >close to limited S ranks Her buffs are nowhere near Astra's. >>1252527 You're the one missing the point. I said her buffs are bricked. I did not say definitively that her personal damage doesn't compensate (though I do have my doubts). Hence >>1252462 >We'll see Sorry about your brain cancer btw. I guess it explains why you can't read.
You guys think Zhao will get a cutesy EP? I know she's facing probably like a week straight of Shunguang shilling but I hope she gets some love too
>>1252536 >>1252547 damn another disk to chase
>>1252554 it will be babymetal like varesa
>>1252551 >hurr durr i said "we'll see!" two posts ago which makes my points all valid without actually acknowledging anything you said i accept your concession retard-kun
>>1252560 That would be incredible
>>1252554 Probably No one actually likes yebibi so dont worry about her
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>>1252481 It's weird that the the buffs aren't even in value. Attack agents get 83% of a CDMG 4 Rupture agents get around 2.5 times the sheer an HP disc would give them. Anomaly gets ~65% of AP 4 Supports vary, but it's around 30-40% more than an ATK% disc would give them. But it's lower than the sheer buff, when ATK tends to be 25% higher than sheer from all other sources. Stunners get between 23 - 51% more impact than from an impact 6. She gives herself an ER 6 + a 2pc and a half worth of ER. Obviously she shills herself 1st and Dialyn 2nd (lowest base impact ergo benefits the most from flat impact), but the rest of the numbers seem random.
>>1252563 My concession? But you agreed with me that her buffs were bricked.
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>>1252554 Her demo is guaranteed to be absolute zzzinema and I will make several webms and apngs the instant it drops.
>>1252554 i hope so
>>1252514 you missed the part where I was talking about how she helps less powerful characters. maybe you don't want to put her in a team with dialyn but maybe with a less powerful stunner you might. or maybe you just wanna stunmaxx cuz more stun = more fun
>>1252507 I'm worried that giving stunners more impact will be a bad thing. As other anon said it could misalign the resources on your agents for the stun window. Ideally you would like to ult every stun window.
>>1252577 All supports help less powerful characters, yes. That doesn't make her a smart choice if you're in the market for a support.
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>>1252554 I just hope it isn't crap
>>1252578 It's something you could account for and build for though. Kind of like how game ball is the strongest support ball in the game because it gives crit rate, but if you're building your agents normally and not taking advantage of the extra stat budget it gives you for your dps you wouldn't notice because you're probably overcapping it
>>1252585 did you read the second and third sentences of the post you responded to I swear, arguing with metachurls is so fucking tiresome
>>1252577 >>1252578 Just swap your shockstar 2pc and impact 6 for something else? Seems like that part is made specifically for Dialyn since she's then free to use an ER 2pc and disc 6.
>>1252571 The impact from Zhao's attacks is pretty nice.
Zhao will get nerfed a week before 2.5 goes live and there will be a 400 post melty session
How about we just wait and see? It's not like we didn't have an entire beta cycle where Yanagi was nerfed "into the ground" and "ruined" and made "equivalent to m7 Anton" just for her to release and it to turn out out she was strong as fuck and would've broken the game without those nerfs.
>>1252546 give her a better basic attack chain and let dodge counter skip to some point into said chain. that makes me happy, but doesn't really fit for most people so they'd probably have to throw in another kind of supportive buff
>>1252567 Can ライト offer his max buff with her impact buff and free engines? I still don't have a Hellfire Gears.
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>>1252594 They have a really satisfying chunky weighty feeling, while still displaying her bouncy bnuuy acrobatics. Gonna get even better once we get to experience them with sound effects.
>>1252541 Lighter is literally her BIS team mate if you're trying to DPS with her. He gives 15% fire res shred, lots of stun, and 75% fire damage with just his core. Koleda is buttcheeks for this fight and anyone who doesn't use chain attacks for dps. She stuns fast so only really usable with a rupture agent. >It's a standard comparison and one which makes a lot of sense for people planning their pulls. It does not when there's only 3 main rupture buffs and this one is already better than the A rank, which you keep trying to hide to fluff your shit argument. >Someone concerned with their power level is screwing themselves by pulling a limited who's only marginally better than an A-rank. An S rank than can be an on fielder easily and is better than all A rank supports. >lol no lol yes I just proved it but it's cute how you try to lie your way out of losing an argument. >And most people do indeed have a collection of supports and stunners for this That are all preoccupied or worse than her, you're losing the plot. >Her buffs are nowhere near Astra's. 20% dmaage and 25% crit damage with 1200 attack. vs 540 attack plus 30% damage + ether veil hp bonus + bonuses she confers to support or dps agents It might be worse on attackers but not for Anomaly Agents or Sheer, and for Ye it will be better since you need a proper Veil activator. But again, and here's the important part corky, you can use her as a DPS or in tandem with Astra. So on top of being a solid all-rounder, she's also a decent main dps if you want her to be and is a superior choice for rupture agents which you keep denying and are wrong about. With anomaly agents she's probably more of a sidegrade and the only thing she doesn't do as well with being attack. But we still just got her in TC and these values are subject to buffs, on top of her mystery 4pc set which could provide a unique buff you can't get elsewhere with a support set which makes her another attractive option. You're going to keep bleating about nonsense points so it's really not worth engaging with you further so I'll leave you to your meal of lead paint and acetone.
I spent close to 5 hours yesterday trying to 3 star Le VVanderer with my Hugo Lighter Koleda team, and the highest I could get was 17k score. I then switched to my Shifu team and she killed him on the first bounce
>>1252594 >>1252610 feel like they did a good job with that after finding yidhari's weightiness lacking
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Let's see the ZZZ devs nerf THIS Impact https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e80zT-558jY
god's strongest wise x evelyn warrior is still going at it...
>>1252591 Yes, just because I didn't respond to a sentence specifically does not mean I didn't read it. Here though, if you insist: >maybe you don't want to put her in a team with dialyn but maybe with a less powerful stunner you might This is an example to illustrate your first sentence. It's redundant if I refute your first sentence. >or maybe you just wanna stunmaxx cuz more stun = more fun Maybe you wanna DEFmaxx because taking less damage = more fun Maybe you wanna ERmaxx because more EX Specials = more fun I don't care about entertaining every possible inane goal a player might cook up >>1252592 Yes, it can free up that disc if you have a good Attack% disc suitable for your stunner. The end result is still going to be small if the stunner's damage contribution is small.
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>>1252618 Yiddy's giga EX counter feels super phat and satisfying, but other than that yeah she's just too floaty -- specially considering she's a hammer user with obviously inspiration from MonHun, where hammers are ABSURDLY weighty.
>>1252592 that's an interesting thought. with m0 foofs maybe you could swap impact 6 for er 6 to help her ramp up more quickly would also be interesting if you could set zhao up to give buffs per agent rather than per class, so you could cover for each agent's weak spot. would be really fucking op tho
>>1252627 >if I refute your first sentence which you didn't, you literally agreed with it lol
>>1252624 Based and canonical.
just in time for the end of the thread <3
>>1252541 Lighter isn't mandatory to run Orphie but Koleda is dead weight in that team.
>>1252637 I agreed with the true part of what you said, that as a support she improves a weaker character. Just like every other support, but worse. That's all I've been saying from the beginning, her buffs are underwhelming—comparable to an A-rank. If you want a generalist support, there's a better option.
>>1252555 Do you have Lighter? You can just throw 2pc shockstar and 4pc KotS on him and you're good. You can also use her fire disc on him to start since koleda eventually wants all attack discs if you can slot it because of her m6. If you really want to DPS with Orphie consider getting Lighter's M1 as well for more res shred. >>1252567 I think they're placeholder values until they get to really testing her. As is she's good for rupture, mid for attackers minus Shungite, and okay for a dps. They probably want to avoid what happened with Jufu and Dailyn.
>>1252611 >Lighter is literally her BIS team mate if you're trying to DPS with her. I know, and I don't give a single fuck. Expecting people to have [insert agent here] is ridiculous. Only a fraction of the player base has Lighter. I think it's completely fair to judge characters based on how they synergize with standards, which are characters a larger portion of the playerbase will have. Again, I don't think Orphie is underwhelming and I don't agree with the other guy's conclusion. 20k is pretty good on Wandering Hunter and his stupid bloated DEF stat.
>>1252651 every other support might not help a weaker stunner become a more powerful stunner, if they're buffing atk or dmg or something that doesn't apply to stunning
I still need to buy the BP but don't want to pay 5 bucks for Mullvad. The math doesn't add up. >9.99€ >with JP VPN it's like 6€ >buy it twice, 12€, 17 if you include the VPN price That's only 3€. Did anybody ever just use a Japanese Google Play Store to buy stuff? Prices are still in Yen.
>>1252666 >17 if you include the VPN price bro, tunnelbear is free and works
>>1252666 Just use a free VPN
>>1252621 >Breaking your monitor at the sight of the shining golden kot
>>1252653 >Expecting people to have [insert agent here] is ridiculous. Only a fraction of the player base has Lighter Last I checked he's got a decent cop rate from the whole of each server. Not Astra high but high enough. It's also reasonable to expect or tell a player that when they're fighting specific bosses or trying to use specific agents. Would be like trying to run a rupture team without Pan, Fufu, or Lucia >I think it's completely fair to judge characters based on how they synergize with standards, which are characters a larger portion of the playerbase will have. Normally yeah, but this is against Wandering hunter who is a rupture boss, and as you can see above Manato does fine with Lucia and Pulchra at 35k score with I think the guy had m0w0 Lucia. Orphie simply struggles with rupture bosses without Lighter and that is intentional because there's no fire res shred agent available standard until Koleda gets her buffs I assume. For Ice res you have Soukaku and Lycaon, for Ether and general shred you have Nicole, but there's not specific phys or fire shredder yet.
>>1252665 Sure, but which stunners are considered weak and why? Anby, Koleda, etc. can stun just fine, they just don't offer very much beyond that. Adding Zhao doesn't do much to improve an Anby.
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does yebibi actually need a teammate able to create ether veil? if thats the case the slut can go fuck herself unless zhao is free
>>1252707 So far it seems like it, but they both just got added and Yebibi isn't even completely in yet.
>>1252707 no one knows because yebibi isn't just "not completely in" she effectively isn't in. nothing except her core passive is in
I'm kinda happy yebibi isnt a sooper dooper special element I feel like those should be few and far between
>>1252612 >I spent close to 5 hours yesterday trying to 3 star Le VVanderer with my Hugo Lighter Koleda team, and the highest I could get was 17k score. I got 21k with mine but I swapped Koleda for Yuzuha because I felt like it. Did it first try. Could use Lycaon instead.
>>1252136 This is will be the meta strategy for Guild Recruitment after 2.5
Baker, release us from this prison
>>1252728 How do you know, she's not dripped and her beta data is mostly a placeholder
>>1252606 You need 270 impact With steam oven activated its ((137 * 1.24)* 1.36) + 30 = 261.0368 (1.25 + (((261.0368 - 170)/10) *.25)) * 20 = 70.5184% buff With fossil its ((137 * 1.39) * 1.2) + 30 = 258.516 (1.25 + (((258.516 - 170)/10) *.25)) * 20 = 69.258% buff With either Hellfire (unstacked) or Restrained its ((137 * 1.42) *1.2) + 30 = 263.448 (1.25 + (((263.448 - 170)/10) *.25)) * 20 = 71.724% buff So nyo you still need Sexyleda's engine, but you get pretty damn close to max.
>>1252370 Orphie will be an on-field Fire Anomaly thoughtbeit god that micro-melty was funny
>>1252728 >literally a Void Hunter, aka THE sooper dooper special club
>>1252689 whichever one you feel needs help in that dept to meet your stunning goals. or, as other anons have said, you can swap out impact 6 for something else, or potentially a different ball where you sacrifice impact/daze for something else idk man I think you have some seriously inflexible thinking that's based on everyone whaling and maxing out their builds in a proscribed fashion, which most players don't do. zhao as she is now would allow for a lot more flexibility in teambuilding and whatnot, and I think that's pretty cool
>>1252652 >Do you have Lighter? nah, maybe on the next rerun
>>1252546 If Grace can get Ablooms, Leda can get extra debuffs applied by her EX special, maybe even stun extension or multiplier buff
>>1252379 >I don't know for sure but Astra's energized swaps should count as "launching" an EX Special, Yeah if only there was a way to actually check that, because the buff tracking and uptime menu is fucking useless. It's almost like the game doesnt want you to actively sweat with how hard it is to keep the uptime on stuff


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