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/zzz/ - Zenless Zone Zero General Anonymous 05/24/2025 (Sat) 08:01:14 Id: 06f77c No. 421313
Previous: >>418690 >News Version 2.0 "Where Clouds Embrace the Dawn" Special Program https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACjLWP_zviU Agent Record | Ju Fufu https://www.hoyolab.com/article/38461795 Agent Record | Pan Yinhu https://www.hoyolab.com/article/38438458 Agent Record | Yixuan https://www.hoyolab.com/article/38438088 Version 1.7 "Bury Your Tears With the Past" Special Program https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAzTZrHSz64 >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7S3fTAZUgk (EN) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REjNV-Q4YQo (JP) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWbFXxzHxk8 (EN) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtPVxkHoYTA (JP) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr2Uuba41nI (EN) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN8NSPmcJSc (JP) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Qire8nMUg (EN) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wA2KPzhCS0 (JP) >Upcoming Events for 1.7 https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/155604 All-New Program 04/23 - 06/05 Say It With Flowers 04/23 - 06/05 Bangboo Bash 04/27 - 05/12 Savor the Flavor: Citywide Delivery 05/02 - 05/19 Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 05/07 - 05/12 "En-Nah" Into Your Lap 05/14 - 06/05 Springtime Snapshots 05/14 - 06/05 A Tale Through the Looking Glass 05/19 - 06/05 Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 05/31 - 06/05 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online) https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption ZENLESSGIFT ZZZ17TIMOTHYRANDY ZZZANNIVERSARY >Resources and useful links https://rentry.org/zzzlinks https://rentry.org/ZZZ-drawpile https://rentry.org/ZZZFriends >/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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Sometimes, I wanna fuck Chinatsu and spend all night cuddling with her. Other times, I wanna do so with Rokudo. Then, there are some days of the week where all I desire to do, is to plap Yutanes little robotic ass. Thats the beauty of men sexual nature; polygamy. I love all my girls, and I love each one for different reasons.
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Code anchor post! Let's help each other out bwos https://hoyo.link/Fr99fQeXd?u_code=CAGEF2KUDY2K
NICOLE
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Hey bros, I believe I may have figured Alice's combat style out Attached to the box on her back are 8 of these handle attachment things I believe that they're packed with gunpowder, she can fire them to massively extend her rapier (which is what the blue coil is for, to whip it back into the handle)
>>421327 I want others to suffer from loneliness because I do constantly.
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>>421316 These are the noises she makes while she's doing this btw
>>421313 Hmm, I've been sitting on my standard char selector to choose between knot and harin (only ones I dont have). I guess since we're getting another one free, I'll just get one now and build one up.
>>421327 >>421336 Both done. >>421340 Mine
>>421316 It would be really funny if she can't speak any actual language and can only make stupid noises
>>421332 Interesting, do you think she'll be fire?
>>421342 Won't matter if you are plapping her hard enough. >>421344 My bet actually would be physical
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I love Chinese women the most
Is zzz set in the same world as genshin impact and Honkai star rail?
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I fucking love oni
>>421344 No, I think she'll be our first limited physical in a long time Billy uses gunpowder plenty and remained physical
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the ruskies fall upon hard time...
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Are you excited to see Grace again?
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Bigger Ellen with puffier nipples https://gamebanana.com/mods/596182
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>>421316 I didn't really care about Zhao but this sold me on her.
>>421348 No, but genshin and honkai star rail aren't in the same universe either, rather the "imaginary tree" which is a multiverse with multiple branches ZZZ may be shoehorned into it later but it's clear it's mostly it's own thing for now and if it is on the tree it's pretty far away from the others
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>>421355 Nyes actually, I think she's great and having her give Eous a Super Robot is kino as fuck.
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Wait, does sharing our codes amongst ourselves actually do anything?
>Lose 3 50/50s >lost 2 ball 75/25s >run out of polys and don't get his ball from the banner >on pity but now have to hit 70 pulls max >don't know if I have enough even if I get a pack top off Man, this week's just not my week. Anybody else with abysmal luck in this game or just me?
>>421363 I'm not sure it's the first time I shared mine, whenever I click on others it tells me support failed
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>>421363 Theoretically we could have some latebros that come in, but realistically nobody is gonna get any hits anymore.
>>421365 You only need to click and open the link for you to earn a draw. But if you did not login your account, obviously, it won't earn you anything.
>>421364 I threw some polys at Hugo's ball banner to try and get the last Soukaku ball I need to max it out, and I got Hugo's ball instead Not sure who I'd use it on since My Ellen already has her ball, and I'm not rolling Hugo
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>>421356 >Buffed kit in two weeks >Buffed tits now It's all coming together
God she is so adorable and erotic.
>>421368 I'm pre-registered, logged in and still 0/36 though unless really no one clicked or its delayed
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>>421356 finally canon Ellen
>>421372 Pan only rapes gay men
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>>421376 I watched the stream a little bit ago and the devs seemed more hyped for Fufu than they did Shisho And I completely understand why
>>421376 Me on the left.
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>>421376 I'm thankful i'm not a faggot and can properly enjoy this masterpiece
>>421383 >passion project vs cash cow >but with agents
Only 13 days left
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>>421383 >avg mihoyo dev
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I can't wait for when we finally get to see the Dark Wall.
>>421387 Yixuan really seemed like the odd character out Of the agents discussed, she's the only one missing out on the food theme the rest of her team has Wonder if that was intentional
>>421393 >only one missing out on the food theme What are you talking about it's right there.
>>421391 Imagine if there really was a whole world outside of the Dark Wall and the Eridu residents were just super unlucky Like, the Dark Wall is actually a wall and everything outside of it is perfectly normal
>>421376 cute child ass
>>421391 For me it's this guy's banner (2 years from now probably)
>>421398 I think people will get tired of another AOT plot twist but I personally like that idea
>>421398 You know they probably have planes and satellites, right?
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>>421398 That might be the case. It could also be the case that it mirrors what we see on the moon right now. If it's the later, then you can see how that would turn out.
To be honest I don't really care about fufu
>>421411 There is still areas between New Eridu and the Dark Wall, like the Outer Ring.
>>421404 Ah fuck, that is just AoT I was just thinking about what the devs said about there being more to the world, like here >>421411 >>421409 We've seen helicopters, blimps, and a weird magic platform that was never addressed again. Not sure where their aero tech is honestly >>421410 Considering how fissures just do whatever they want, that's the likelihood of the proxies into into one hole and then coming out on the moo- fuck that's just Portal 2
>>421413 nine sols reject
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>>421391 I still can't imagine how these 3 pushed the entirety of the Dark Wall back like 37km / 23 miles back, FROM ALL SIDES, when the biggest baddest Hollow we know is like a speck in comparison
>>421416 Okay but what if we make the other side of New Eridu actually dangerou- fuck that's just the Dark Continent
>>421418 They were each probably 100x Miyabi's strength. I have a feeling all the old dead unplayable characters had insane feats we'll learn about
>>421418 The amount of Ethereals they had to kill must have been staggering, and that's not counting if they killed something Nineveh level.
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>>421401 >Dan looks to be a cool big armored robot guy >jk it's a girl inside again >>421418 The OG Void Hunters are all just that cool.
>>421418 >pink slut >>421419 Hopefully our story actually moves forward
>>421418 that Elysia expy's tits are fucking massive I hope she's/her spiritual successor are coming soon
>>421413 bunny is hot too, gotta see more posts of her
>>421418 What if the voidhunters actually didn't stop the wall and that's just propaganda to placate the masses? And those in power don't actually know what stopped it and are just operating on borrowed time?
>>421418 I hope they come with capes when they release, especially Dan
>>421429 I want a slice of those mooncakes
>>421435 >What if the voidhunters actually didn't stop the wall and that's just propaganda to placate the masses? I don't think it's common public knowledge.
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Apologize.
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>>421376 There was LITERALLY no reason to give this Thiren child such fat thighs >>421444 It is. There's some male NPC in the Outer Ring who talks about how cool the three OG VHs who pushed back the Dark Wall were. I don't remember when he shows up, but he's up in the top section talking to another NPC.
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banging . . . BOOS!
Would you correct Fufu? Or would Fufu correct you?
>>421461 I'm thinking lovey-dovey handholding 钻石牛角 for the express purpose of procreation
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>>421461 Through intercrural I am refined
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So the remaining habitable world is surrounded with this "black wall"? Or the "black wall" is just caging Eridu and New Eridu, while the outer world beyond the black wall is safe? I hate it when the story writer being unclear because they seemingly also don't know the answer.
>>421464 What the fuck did I paste bro I just wanted to say straddling how do I type it in JP. >t. dekinaiGOD
who got u more excited, idols, bunny or fufuchild?
>>421467 Too flat.
>>421468 I think what they said here >>421411 is pretty certain But most likely they're keeping it just vague enough to be able to pivot based on fan response
>>421475 >>421475 Orpheus. Or well, trailer Orpheus at least, seems they fumbled again.
>>421475 Alice
>>421468 It's probably just like the moon, a huge combined mass of hollows.
>>421479 Her face and hair makes her look very round. It's cute.
>>421458 >It is Ah. I must have forgotten about that NPC. I know Ray asks Meebs about the Dark Wall and Meebs tells her she can't tell her anything about it because of a pact the current VHs have. Found the scene. It's from the LV opening. >Hoshimi Miyabi: Something isn't right up ahead. >Hoshimi Miyabi: That familiar Ether disturbance... It feels similar to the Dark Wall. >Hoshimi Miyabi: I'm afraid the investigation has to end here. >Ray: What do you mean, Chief Miyabi? >Hoshimi Miyabi: Anything involving the Dark Wall must be reported before we proceed. >Hoshimi Miyabi: This is an agreement between Void Hunters. >Ray: So this place is similar to the Dark Wall? And what was that about a Void Hunter agreement? >Ray: Miss Hoshimi, what exactly...? >Hoshimi Miyabi: ... >Hoshimi Miyabi: I'm merely stating my judgment. Due to prior commitments, I can't get into the details.
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>>421475 Fufu>Bun>Yutane>the rest
>>421468 Well you can see on the moon when you look at it that there are areas near the edges of the hollow that are surrounded but not yet covered by the hollow. It could be likely there are areas like that on the planet still.
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>>421475 I only care about Yutane out of those.
>>421475 Rokudo Bunny = Fufu Chinatsu Yutane
>>421475 the fluffy one
Something is wrong with this Burnice....
I caught up with last thread. Why are schizos on full force today? Did they breach the containment site?
>>421501 That pizza looks fucking awful
>>421503 schizo* it's just one guy who gets annoyed that halfchan is a deserted hellscape so he comes here to try and get attention
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>>421477 I think it would be cool if they have Expedition or Hollow Purging event in the future, something like massive game wide accumulating points event. Where if the server can hit the highest points there will be a hollow removed from the map and then opening new region. Maybe an event for 2.9 to 3.0.
>>421501 how come it is censored in russia
>>421510 planetside style would be cool
>>421475 Jufufu
>>421509 I think 4keks is just him + the rangebanned russian ellenfag.
REFINE ME
>>421514 Maybe they use the CN version?
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>>421525 All in flat def!
>>421525 GRANDE VIDA
>>421525 Do the needful RNGcreator
>>421546 It was a brick to begin with anon no AP on the first 3 rolls
>>421551 I had faith in the illusive 4th substat.....
The only art the fufu is missing is feet art to be the perfect cute and funny
So, are you happy with this story anon?
tell me who i get
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>>421576 eat a burger
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>>421582 im eating pizza rn (with olives)
>>421593 Fuck I remembered that I have Tarako-cheese Pizza in the fridge
>>421593 we're missing a pizza agent right now we have burger agent, alcohol agent, noodles agent, TWO red bean bun agents, melon agent..... where is pizza agent
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>>421598 It should've been caesar tbh
>>421599 I only know thing song from the band Pisswalker
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Is she going to join Proxybowl?
>>421608 I want to spank her with that thing Or have her spank me with it Either is fine
>>421605 No idea who that is
On PC you can have FPS set to unlimited and Vertical Sync on. What will this do exactly? It's still capped at 60FPS right?
>>421571 I mean it's kind of an ok DnD session scenario i guess.
>>421623 I thought it was the worst and cheapest event they ever did
>>421619 Should cap at your monitor's max refresh, no?
>>421619 It caps your FPS to the v-sync value (your monitor refresh rate). It's at the bottom
>>421627 For me it was the corin event last patch that pissed me off the most It was actually really fun but it had NOTHING TO DO WITH FUCKING CORN HOYO I'M GOING TO CARPETBOMB YOUR OFFICE
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Shorkbros I'm so ready
>>421637 Corn is a failure and that event reflected that.
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>>421629 >>421636 oh ok thanks
>>421643 Y-you're a failure!!!!
>>421648 It's true!
Beard Papa’s, the iconic Japanese bakery renowned for its fresh and natural cream puffs, is excited to announce an enchanting collaboration with the popular game Zenless Zone Zero. This partnership introduces a limited-edition collection of cream puffs inspired by Anby and Burnice and introduces a NEW character Bangboo never seen before and only available for a limited time. Special unique promo game items will be available as part of this exciting collaboration!
>>421637 Shit pissed me off so much, the stream and the art marketed it as a Corin event but she had a grand total of like 3 lines about the "ghost" being a VR software bug after 5 mediocre combat stages
>>421608 She looks better than all shown playable characters so far. She makes Ju Fufu, Lynette, Derpheus and Yazhuhu look like A ranks
>>421659 >Shitposters suddenly like China now
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>>421327 https://hoyo.link/Fr99fQeXd?u_code=CAGUL9RG5M2K also do I only need to click on other people's links...?
>>421662 People like sexy/beautiful women, it's that simple
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Third shit
wait why are the Hugo trust events actually kino so far, I was clicking through them expecting (You)baiting and I'm not a fag but suddenly all of victoria's housekeeping just showed up and Vivian is still stalking me
>>421662 I dislike chink shit, but my dick will never dislike slutty chinese girls in qipaos
>>421627 It's basically a log in event with some flavour. Honestly I'd rather have this kind of filler than a filler combat event.
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cool wipeout today
>>421693 itsak
Who /autism/ here? Haven't used the hamster cages on a single Agent because I have PTSD from other games.
>>421700 Not me, my Kot is fully caged.
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>>421659 Criminal that she isn't playable, it's not like they can't give us uncensored up-skirts as Vivian shows hers
>>421700 I can 6/9 7/7 without them, so until then
>>421700 I use them in all 3 games haven't actually ran out yet
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>>421700 I have like 6 left
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>>421665 I wish I could tell you, I'm still at 0/36..
Rolling for id, tell me who I got
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>>421700 I've maxed the girls I really love so far, the Bibis and Trigga. Next will be Shifu if I really love her gameplay or Orpheus.
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>>421700 I still have a lot, but just because there aren't many agents that fit my taste
>>421700 I used 5 on Ellen, planning on using the others on SSAnby, Trigger and Bibian but I want to raise Corin and Billy first
>>421700 I used 4 on sAnby and didn't get any with even a single crit stat. I wish we had substat selectors like HSR has.
>>421700 I used it on Bibi's basics (her shimotsuki scales of it) and ultimate, Yanagi's EX and Ultimate (her polarity disorders scale with it), Astra's EX (her buffs scale out of it) and Evelyn's chain attacks.
>>421700 what is this
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>>421733 Oh wait I'm retarded that's the skill capper not the main stat selector
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>>421700 Used 5 on bibi, otherwise only used a cage here and there on the char strongest skill
>>421739 Before you ask: no, you can't bang it like a boo.
Lighter vs Jufufu. Lighter is probably better by a little, but 1000 extra decibels is pretty cool. Plus loli butt.
>>421700 Definitely not me
>>421332 Please be electric dps. I fucking hate Harumasa.
>>421750 >Please be electric dps these are words I did not expect to read in relation to this game for like a year
>>421313 Good thread
So, what's her team options if I am not getting Jufufu? I still don't even know what her passives are
>>421759 Trigger/Astra Caesar/Astra Koleda/Ben (unironically i think) she wants stun and support characters, I'm sure Qingyi would be decent as well
Spook Shack is a sick concept for a 2 person mini-faction, reminds me of Dandadan
>>421759 panda/astra panda/lucy
Yay, my first 1 star DA
>>421768 >Koleda/Ben (unironically i think) I want to see someone run that.
>>421759 Pan + any support or off-field stunner that activates passives
>>421781 >>421770 Fuck I just realized I need to farm for the Panda as well.
>>421780 I don't think it'll be as good if you have panda mindscapes but on paper it works, they're buffing Koleda to buff rupture agents and adding Ben just adds so much sovl to the team that you will win all your 50/50's and hit every crit in battle
>>421776 Is there a chance I can get 1 more DA with my lineup?
>>421790 give Anton some purple discs for stats, throw Rina and Anby in there and fight typhon, pay ATTENTION TO HIS MECHANIC - parry him three times in a row when he does the jump back and he stuns himself surely you can get 1 star in a week if you really want it
>>421776 Good job bro >>421790 What >>421792 said. Typhon with focusing on the parry should be able to get at least 1 star if you can do some damage.
>>421790 Typhon throws 4800 points at you just for parrying his combo, you'll likely be able to fill out 1200 in damage with whoever
>>421776 Grats bwo!! >>421790 Yea like other said do typhon and just make sure to do the mechanic
>>421786 >adding Ben just adds so much sovl to the team that you will win all your 50/50's and hit every crit in battle Nah I think at most it counterbalances rolling for Yixuan.
Serious question, are chinese games not into exploiting stuff like summer with Mizugi skins and shit? They are missing serious bank by not releasing beach skins so I wonder why they don't do it.
>>421805 Yeah they don't do it for some reason. Genshin finally did it this year I think but even then the summer costumes weren't that revealing. They underestimate how much people want bikini skins of their chars.
>>421805 Chinese games yes, just not Mihoyo for some reason.
>5 or so parries before you're allowed to do damage The fuck were they thinking with Tepes?
>>421811 it's only three bro
>>421805 Maybe ZZZ will be the exception, I think HI3 had swimsuits.
>>421805 It's just mihoyo Dawei doesn't want to get stabbed
>>421805 >>421816 I also think it's because they're trying not to alienate the normalfag audience. But with zzz already leaning into the sexual factor more than the other games it could well be they do it here.
>>421824 the "normalfag audience" circlejerk is such a meme marvel rivals is such a slop game, it's blatantly a rip-off of overwatch with shit movement - they add gooner skins and no one bats an eye, it's the biggest multiplayer new release in 5 years
>>421824 I think it's more about not wanting to turn people off of spending. Too many outfits adds even more to buy for a character when you already have to get dupes and weapon dupes.
>>421753 Physical would be fine too. I'm not pulling YiXuan until I see 2.1, which will no doubt be Alice and Yuzuha. Yuzuha looks like fire support. Lucy's replacement.
why does Alice have homophobia eyes?
>>421830 Why not? It's cool.
>>421805 Hoyo got out of the skins game after HI3. When they do skins now it's always tasteful stuff and limited in quantity. Probably don't want to dilute their characters' looks too much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAjw23j3P-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_skFhoR5jYE My headcanon is that they just don't want their characters to look "cheap" by putting them in bikinis. Making characters that look cheap reflects poorly on their company to the average consumer. They also have a global audience/jurisdictions that might have cultural sensitivities. They also want the instant character brand recognition from keeping their looks consistent through most of their media. Klee is Klee, March7 is March7, Nicole is Nicole. This helps people outside of the HOYO ecosystem recognize the company by keeping the looks consistent, the same way that Mario looks like Mario. Their calculus is that in game earnings from skins is a pittance compared to the value of their company/characters' global recognition. And they're right IMO.
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>>421769 I thought of persona 4 because they use weapons but Dandadan makes more sense for zoomies
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>>421834 They could make more outfits and whales would buy them tbh. Hell, they could give a skin with Miyabi in a ponytail and you know some would buy it
>>421830 Something something lost an eye while on the job and it's an artificial one now
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>>421837 Banging... women!
>>421834 >Their calculus is that in game earnings from skins is a pittance compared to the value of their company/characters' global recognition. And they're right IMO. They really aren't, the amount of money you can make from putting 1 girl in a bikini is far more return on value than creating an entire new character and banking on them selling well. There's a reason other MMOs and gacha do this shit.
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>>421838 That "some"? Me.
>>421837 PULLIN
Are there any sites or apps out there that collect data about Shiyu and DA clears yet? And if not, why not?
>>421847 >and gacha Those usually also give you a 10 roll with the outfit/skin
>>421792 >>421795 >>421798 >>421799 Thanks, do I need to raise Anton to lv 50 first or just yolo it?
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>>421769 It's a very neat concept for a faction. Wonder if 2.1'll be some fun spooky slice of life adventure, maybe Archie will be involved too. >>421835 Dandadan's the new hot thing so it's easy to point towards. This paranormal club trope is still neat.
>>421851 Prydwen ATTEMPTS to, but it's only from people who willingly give up their data to the site, and for some reason they filter anyone with any mindscapes out - even for standard 5 costs which is really dumb especially for characters like Rina and S11 https://www.prydwen.gg/zenless/shiyu-defense I wouldn't put too much stock into their data
>>421856 Try it without first and then if that doesn't work consider it
>>421835 >>421857 When I think "paranormal club", I mostly gravitate towards Ghost Stories. That show's fucking funny, I love it.
>>421805 Wish Hoyo had less dignity with ZZZ. There's a bunch of erotic mods that don't even feel that out of place compared to some of the default outfits, they could definitely pivot into that territory more if they wanted
>>421834 I mean even then their skin output is retardedly low for how much monos they could be stealing. >>421869 Unironically even more casual outfits like Ellen's or Nicole's would sell gorillions.
>>421805 I'd hate to induce salesposting but overall it really doesn't seem like they need to and their formula of providing some story context for skins seems to work out fine
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I love our NPCs
I swear is it just me or are these 3 films ALWAYS the ones for the video store I swear I never had any other film besides these 3 appear for the past few weeks what the fuck
I just think they're keeping the skins thing as a (break incase of emergency) thing When they want to, they will deploy the Ellen Joe, Yazuha/Alice, and Vivian JK swimsuit uniform skins and make enough to buy the CCP outright
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What should her skin be?
>>421847 >>421838 >>421873 That's the calculus they've made. If they didn't think the trade off was worth it then they'd be pumping out skins like they used to in HI3. And the trade off is obviously working if they're attracting the attention of people outside of the ecosystem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnlwxhhFYv0
>>421805 Beach skins is some basic bitch shit and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. The best alternate costume nu-hoyo has ever made is White Tao in Genshin Impact. Give me a different yet unique flavor of the characters I love, not some generic slop.
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>>421891 Rabbit kigurumi
>>421881 I don't know, I just hit use recommended and get off
The positivity around the 2.0 livestream is making my stomach churn in disgust and anxiety. I fucking hate it.
>>421904 Explain yourself or I'll have to call you a n(1)gger.
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>>421898 There's nyo way anyone will willingly brick themselves with more kotballs right? I already have 2 kotballs from standard and I hate it. >>421904 DoomLORD...
>>421904 "hagslop" hater has given up....
*ahem* XIĀNSHĒNG WAAAAANNNGGGG XUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU LIIIINNGGGG LLLOOOOOOOOONNNGGGGG WAAAAAAAWWWUUUUUUUUXXXIIIIIIIIIIIIII XIIIII XUUUUUUUU SHAAAAAAA SHIIIII SHUUUUUU XAAAAAA XIIIII HUUUUUUUU SHAAAAAAA LING DONG BAAAAAAAAA SHIIIII SHAAAAAAA *standing ovation, confetti, the crowd goes wild, President Xi Jinping comes on stage to give Qingyi the CCP Comradery Medal of Musical Honor To The Fatherland*
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>>421910 I am taking my 4th Steel Cushion with the selector and I will prove it
>>421914 >curse of Ra -1000000 social credit, you should have changed it to curse of Nuwa to properly spread how powerful our glorious deities are
>>421913 ///您已培養,匿名使用者。五百社交積分已存入您的帳戶,接下來的五百積分在您抽出聚福福時必將帶來豐厚的回報。願金山銀山傾瀉而下,惠及你的家人。\\\
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>>421921 I kneel, kotGOD...
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>>421909 >>421910 Bandwagonners will not hesitate to bury a game in the dirt at the slightest excuse. I understand they're potential paying customers who should be welcomed with open arms but, considering how rough the launch for this game has been, I'm not particularly happy about the presence of new and returnee players.
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Huh
>>421904 It was decent and we actually got worthwhile freebies. The semi-open world is the only upcoming negative depending on how much of a chore they will make it.
>>421934 It's just pale wasteland d00d
>>421891 Sons of Calydon outfit
>>421933 Guessing it's Belle and Wise element >Wise/ Divine(Sun) >Belle/Moon
>>421861 I think I got this, just some disk level here and there and this should be doable. Anton and Anby basically on lv 0 disk atm
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>>421933 >sun no! that's the element of PHYSICAL!!!
>>421933 uhh isn't the top right one just physical?
>yfw you pulled Zhu, Astra, Vivian >yfw you're planning to pull for Yixuan as well E-Ether is the r-rarest element btw... My Zhu.. Benched forever....
>>421934 I need more on it. Might be okay if you need to actively use Eous to map the area
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>>421933 WOW I WONDER WHAT THIS MOON AND SUN ARE
>>421933 the top right is clearly physical but we're getting a lunar element confirmed and going to the moon in 3.0 FOR SURE >>421939 >damage score 847, performance points 5000 you're already a better player than most anons that complain about typhon, KINO RUNS
>>421933 Moon one is DARKNESS for PHAETON THE FALLEN DEITY PROXY SUPREME VOID HUNTER LEVEL REFINED
>>421935 The only good part about pale wasteland was the music, I didn't like it, it was just a commission but simplified and less fun than a TV commission.
>>421904 What positivity? Basically nobody is talking about the livestream outside of communities already dedicated to ZZZ, and it actually upsets me. Compare that to Phainon/Saber/Archer leaks where everyone you ask is getting hyped. They only ever mention the stream to use the free S-rank agent and wengine as ammo for their gacha culture war.
>>421943 >>421944 The 'people' behind these zzz fan twitter accounts don't play the game, please forgive
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>>421952 I have to agree
>>421932 I'm sure it's gonna be fine as long as the devs avoid pandering to this kind of people...surely they must have learnt from their mistakes after the absolute disaster that was HI3's Part 2, right?
>>421954 who the fuck cares about the opinion of the general public they are ALL retards especially in the gachasphere
>>421958 Different dev team.
>>421933 >the moon >look closer >it's actually THREE moons You better start believing in the larger hoyoverse. You are in one.
>>421954 You and I have very different twitter feeds, but obviously the whole point of the fate collab is to bring in fatefags. Even though they kind of half assed saber and emiya.
>>421967 It may be a different dev team, but it's not like they operate in a bubble.
>>421970 I know, I'm just saying I doubt they would go down the same path.
>unironically touting honkai slop rail reception as good >doesn't know that their anniversary was so mediocre even reddit was filled with doomposts, to the point the mods had to beg them to stop >powercreep so far out the ass that there's basically no point at all in trying to see if a unit is good or not because in 3 patches it's left aside >fate collab is piss poor, saber animations and ult are trash, no gilgamesh, no cameos from actual stay night chars other than the shitters they are making playable >also they literally released a 1:1 gilgamesh ripoff, thats how creatively bankrupt their design team is >but if the normalfags are getting "hype" then its all good! Lmao, try harder.
Bitch I am the ultimate Rizzlord, I got that 7777 cheat code memorized, everyone be yapping about my giga brain, Fanum on god paying the Fanum tax, big brain Belle 5000 IQ skibidi
Also I swear to God only fujos care about phainon he is such an insufferable cunt in the story.
>>421976 >They gave Belle a thigh strap They're literally begging us to fuck our brain-rotted sister.
>>421976 Belle would say that
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>>421976 damn sis lookin kinda tuff
>>421938 >delicate sunlight Sunbrigerbros were right
>>421996 >wise seems happy Joyousbros were right
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Bros I won!
>>421933 Bnuuy new element leaked?
>>422004 Rabbits and the moon go hand in hand, so it's likely.
>>422004 >genshin introduced a new element in 3.0 >HSR introduced a new element in 3.0 3.0
>>421996 >Bangboos are always attracted/easily charmed towards Phaeton Hmmmmmmmmmm
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>>422003 lucky fuck
>>421954 Noone is getting hyped for Phainon/Seiba/Archer outside of communities already dedicated to HSR, even fatefags don't really care from what I've seen
aha! got the pic out of the pre-registration website
>>422025 >even fatefags don't really care from what I've seen I'm, like, one-eighth of a Fatefag (I respect Stay Night's legacy, log into F/GO everyday, and consider Extra CCC my favorite Fate thing above all) and by God, did they butcher Saber's design. WHERE'S THE ARMOR?
>3.0 story leaked >Belle and Wise have finally cultivated enough to master the art of Proxy Fu >They return to Sixth Street, excited to see Eous again after being gone for an entire year >He's no where to be found. >Fairy tells the siblings that the 'Third Assistant' left suddenly one night, with a determined look on his face, taking his mech suit with him >The siblings track him down, he left for the Moon. >Eous joined an independent nation on the moon, exclusive to bangboos that have been neglected and abandoned by their masters >This nation is called 'Outer Eridu' >Who created Outer Eridu? >KAMI NORTH
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>>422025 I don't know about that, my feed is filled with animation clips and "waow epic HI3 reference" and I don't even play HSR nor HI3. I was actually trying hard to look for people liveposting the stream yesterday and only saw posts about Ju Fufu and the Chink Burnice NPC.
>>422044 I play FGO as well and to me it's a bigger insult they made that chink ripoff Gil and didn't put him in the game. Also yes Saber model doesn't look good and animations are even worse. Redman is currently decent but if he wasn't free I would not care at all.
>>422044 since you're already discussing another game here, you might as well post it so I know what you're talking about
>>422036 Controversial opinion: I love both of these incestuous siblings and I'm not just Bibiposting.
Reminder that Jufufu is very young
Been holding my 300-roll selector for a while. Should I get Rina, then M1 her from the anniversary gift or go all in for M5 Nekomata hoping for a future buff like Ellen's?
>>422064 Honestly I really love their dynamic and themselves too
>>422055 >"wow epic HI3 reference" Nigga no one outside of honkai cares about hi3
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>>422064 yeah they're cool
>>422063 Fate/Extra CCC was never officially released outside of Japan, so I don't really know what to post. Here's the OP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyH2inDY9eI Fate/Extra CCC came out 12 years ago and outgooned a lot of the so-called gooner games we have today. Spoilers for the true final boss of the game, by the by. [spoiler]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9etpLFCvi4[spoiler]
>>422072 I wouldn't bet on standard characters getting buffs anytime soon.
>>422079 (me) Okay, so spoiler tags don't work on links...
>>422072 honestly I don't think standards are going to get buffed anytime soon. it's going to be limiteds first (probably zhu or QY) before any of the standards, if they ever get it.
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>bangboo racing Lego sets releasing before the bangboo racing event
>>422089 is this real
>>422070 Young AND fertile.
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goon afternoon brothers of mine
>>422089 There are already a few bangboo cars in the game.
>>422084 Let me test it with asterisks instead https://youtu.be/AwZL3j1UpXM
>>422089 Yep Mizubear fucking LIVES baby. Gonna buy that thing for sure.
>>422092 I got it from an account called zenlesszonenews so I guess yes?
>>422089 HOLY SHIT
>>422105 im going to buy the set and launch the lego bangboo into space
>>422099 who is johhny the knife... and why does nobody can ride like johhny the knife?
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So what happened to that "take your relationship to the next step" shit they talked about? I didn't see anything like that in the livestream.
>>422120 The movie dates, no?
>>422120 they meant watching movies and getting a handy in the back row
>>422120 They're going to stealth drop a new feature, You'll have to get physical with the agents to 'detoxify' the miasma out of their system with your new proxy powers, like what happened with Vivian in the main story
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>>422004 Pink bunny girl literally has moon written on her dress/apron.
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>>422078 I love the way she says it. Amon-GUS po-shun.
>>422004 The game needs more elements so I'm happy with this.
>>421933 You'd think they'd at least cross reference the list of elements currently available cuz that top right one is just Physical. The moon is new, though.
>>422140 >>422004 if there's going to be a 'moon' related new element, is it going to be an actual new element or Meeb's Frostfire type element? If the former, what the fuck kind of element would that even be? Gravity? If the latter, what element would it be a variant of?
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>>422047 >That reveal I got chills bwo
>>422140 Oh god it's happening again
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Creator? You there?
>>422140 If she is gonna be moon element its a shame she doesnt have one of those mochi pounding hammers
>>422156 1 2 1 HP substat
>>421943 >>421944 >>421948 >physical so neglected that even players don't remember it anymore
>>422149 Space/Quantum element obviously.
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>>422156 yeah it's me. +1 to all. final stat is def%.
>>422156 It's me. Ya proxy.
>>422156 +4 crit rate last substat is atk%
>>421948 i am pretty sure physical isnt a sun but an impact icon
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>>422162 To be fair Assault is kind of a meme, at least Freeze boosts your crit damage. What does Assault do? Makes you stun a bit faster? Lmao.
>>422164 That kind of overlaps with Ether though, since Ether is the "sci-fi magic" element with black holes and corruption themed attacks
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>>422167 >>422168 >>422169 >>422170 >>422174 Ty Creator :D >>422159 Holy shit you were close, very impressive.
How bricked am I if I want to dump all my polys on Ju Fufu and ignore the big tiddy sifu?
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>>422181 Perish.
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>fast food collab is with “Beard Papa’s” in the US >a cream puff store I’ve never heard of >the closest one is a 5 hour drive away why didn’t they use McDonald’s or something
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Boobwos won with the mecha event
>>422179 That's true, then maybe if Ether is Quantum, Moon will be this game's Imaginary/Light.
>>422192 My son is so talented
>>422191 >"global" event >whole of europe only in UK Wow this is making me mad
Sub 3min at least, can't really do it faster than that.
>>422191 Do we know what freebies it comes with? I'd rather not take a plane to Bongland.
>>422191 >Western Europe >Literally just the UK >Look up "Butchies" >Literally only in London I live in Ireland so it'd be a short trip but fuck going to London, I might have considered it if they had a northern ireland or wales location
>>421369 It's an upgrade to Helens ball still supposedly. Alternatively you can threaten Dawei into sending it to me via telegram.
>>422203 This made me think >SEED appears and helps us out in battle or whatever >After the combat is done it stands in front of us and says: "Let us introduce ourselves properly" >Mechanical noises and smoke >Pilot door opens >Its THEM
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>>422208 just some cosmetic stuff but still
>>422222 good lord, alright guess I have no other option
>>422216 >Seed is 3 loli idols in a trenchcoat, i mean mech suit >The mech suit is sentient and acts as their Idol manager
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>>422222 Did I read something about an exclusive bangboo or imagine it?
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>>422216 Sounds like a true worst case scenario for everyone.
>>422216 I'm going to stick my cock in their pit.
>>422222 Checked.
SAnby bros, I hope Jufufu + Mountain King will be the much needed power increase she needs.
Is New Eridu a Dystopian Megacity?
>>422227 Murphy's law states anything can get worse, picture a "muh queerness" robot whose whole personality is being "queer", downsized to human size + voiced by a homosexual-like person. Make him an off field defender with no good cope balls, slap some "only works with Obol and Electric units" and to add on top of it make ben and seth his boosted A ranks.
>>422236 You got double the points you need to get the reward that matters. What's the problem?
>>422222 Is that it? No Anby/Burnice acrylic/holo card/pin or any physical exclusive merch?
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>>422222 Which chad will sacrifice himself and get a bunch of codes for his bwos?
>>422216 >>422225 Nah, he's 3 bangboos.
>>422216 Not a fan honestly, I want to see my idols fight on their own, not in some dumb mechsuit.
>>422248 I am not doomposting, in fact I am happy SAnby is performing alright this fucking DA but Naggers outperforms her everywhere else. SAnby needs a crit damage buffer or aftershock buffer, and Jufufu/Trigger sounds good considering she wants to off-field.
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>>422250 You gotta wait for a maid cafe collab so you can get the real good stuff.
>>422258 Fufu ju buffs crit damage and is an off-field stunner. She'll be Sanby's 2nd best teammate
>>422261 I don't think I like human Lycaon...
>>422236 ju fufu won't be a bigger dps increase than getting a trigger or astra mindscape. and might not even be a dps increase over trigger and astra with their current mindscapes. she can go to another team, like a yixuan team, because rupture is designed as an alternate playstyle that has a different viewpoint for how they value buffs. (basically def down was too strong for how easy it is to apply, thanks nicole, thanks trigger)
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>>422247 Zamn, that really would be even worse. Just leave my cool robot alone man.
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>>422092 >>422098 >>422104 >>422106 Sixth Street sets were announced last year and released just last month https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyobnlQMvj8
>>422258 Again, you got more than double the points you need. Deadly Assault is just Notorious Hunt with not even 2 pulls as a reward. It's pretty shit content really.
>>421949 Unfortunately have to upgrade Anton to 50 since I can't for the life of me reach 1k damage when he's at 40. Good enough for now
>>422278 robotboy looking billy
So now that we're buds with Hugo, did he ever explain why he stole Astra's album copy? I mean I can probably guess it's due to him valuing originals over rereleases but I don't think we ever got a straight answer about that unless I spedread
>>422112 IIRC it's the og biker that threw himself into the lake of fire and founded Blazewood
>>422278 Posted about this last night, Fellow Sneed bwo, how'd you feel if Seed was a mech suit piloted by a loli BUT, the mech has it's own voice and personality like BT from titanfall. I'd really prefer if Seed is purely a kino robot dude, but if hoyo IS going to add a woman into the equation, then this way is an acceptable sacrifice in my eyes.
Since the patch is starting on a Friday this time around, how the fuck will that work with weeklies? Are we just fucked for that week?
No way...
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>>422261 They better let me have sex with their ellen cosplayer when it happens
>>422273 Did they change the popcorn aftershock thing? >>422276 I want to free Astra for Evelyn/Flopter, this DA I was better off benching Evelyn as the Gorilla kinda shills Trigger and SAnby and Yanagi >>422283 You are literally arguing with somebody that plays DA to see big number go brrr, you are aware of that are you?
>>422304 Jufufu's off-field popcorn attacks count as aftershock damage, this was always the case unless they changed it very recently
Why did she do it?
>>422304 Typhoid is still Eve's best boss since the retard stuns himself 15 times in a row. You don't even need a stunner. The 20% resistance doesn't matter when you can get 30 chain attacks off with two support buffs up.
I want to go read the kits of Ju Fufu and Shifu, but are they the final versions? Or is there still time for them to be changed?
Seed is piloted by a female bangboo named Flower
>>422304 >Piper works with Miyabi why have i not thought of this earlier
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I'm gonna end up grabbing M1 Rina with the free selector, do I get Cradle along with her or Brimstone?
>>422320 cradle is big for her
>>422293 Nyes, that's fine. I don't know if I buy the leak about the supposed separate pilot and mech for Seed but it'd be the best way to handle it. I know it's just robofag autism but it matters to me dammit.
>>422191 >some bumfuck tiny shop in London Mate, why the fuck not collab with a franchise
>>422308 Great >>422312 I tried but I got like 25k and decided to give SAnby a try. Mind you my only sig is Miyabi's. I think SAnby is made to shit on the TyphoonGorilla as you can aftershock chasing while he jumps backs with the rockets just in time for your stunner to parry its lunges. It also helps that the gorilla spams red flashes so you charge your aftershock stacks faster (it is faster to dodge counter 3 times than to finish one and a half basic chain attacks) >>422316 That's prob the best disorder Bibi comp with very low investment.
>Seed is a girl NO SKIP PATCHES
>>422314 Beta V6 on the 26th (or so the chinks told me)
>so many planned Rina pickups/M1s >thread also has a ton of Yanagi rerun hopefuls When did you first realize that you were vulnerable to OLDER WOMEN PROPAGANDA?
>>422318 >not a single place near me So much for that.
>>422324 >Mate, why It's called SOUL, zoomer.
>>422332 >nagilets Not real people
>>422314 Forgot to say that they can always change stuff around afterwards - even Creator Experience Servers aren't safe (see Qingyi)
>>422227 Nope, a true worst case would be if one of the idols was a femboy but nobody knows which one just that one of the 3 is a guy
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>>422333 I'll be in Brooklyn to see Acid Bath just before the promo expires. I'll get a bunch of codes and put some up on here.
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>>422332 i already have Rina M1 what do i even get?
I'm still not sure to get with my selectors. I'm pretty set on getting Rina for the character but for the engine I don't know. I already have the wolf engine, Rina's engine, Grace's engine and S11's engine so I feel like all my bases are kind of covered already.
>>422342 China specifically banned effeminate males, I doubt it.
>>422323 I'm with you on that, 'leakers' only started talking about seed being a woman after the EN dialogue change a few weeks ago, which I chalk down to the EN translators being mentally retarded with pronouns like when they called Caesar a "he" multiple times. Leakers didn't show any proof, they just said "oh yeah btw seed's a woman lol", fucking execute all attention-starved leakers that don't show a single modicum of proof with their leaks I had this same rant last night, i'm gonna try to stop being retarded about this for a while now
>>422349 Get kot's w-engine and give it to Corn/Billy.
>>422351 Wasn't that just to remove K-pop?
>>422236 >Trigger Astra >sub 30k I don't want to be too rude but I can tell that your gameplay and/or builds could use some optimizations.
>>422353 at the moment the only language that still uses masculine pronouns for seed is china
How do I utilize Rina? Is she just there to give "quick assist" prompt and then leave?
>>422356 Effeminate males are fine, but I agree K-Pop is terrible. They should just ban K-Pop straight.
>>422356 Oh no it's wider than that, the law basically encompasses "raising proper males" so any males that are blatantly effeminate get censored. K-poppies took a straight from that but also anything homorelated. >>422357 Feel free to post a Bashful/SteamOven/Brimstone M0 clear with builds.

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>>422336 That's not very NICE you fuck >>422342 >but nobody knows which one just that one of the 3 is a guy Gehehe
Everybody here is M0 (obviously) Who do I get as the freebie character and what do I pick for the freebie weapon? I plan on getting Yixuan and Astra. Will probably try for Yixuan's weapon if it's a good upgrade.
>>422349 Koleda's is ok as a universal cope engine for stunners. Kot engine for Kot or Corn memes Otherwise another Brimstone to keep as a backup cope option I guess.
>feminine males ban harumasa wears a choker and a skirt and acts like a wuss
>>422340 Gotcha, thanks bro.
>>422353 >Leakers didn't show any proof, they just said "oh yeah btw seed's a woman lol", fucking execute all attention-starved leakers that don't show a single modicum of proof with their leaks "Leakers" will say anything for engagement bait so I just flag most of their posts for spam or farming. If it's neutral pronouns then there's no way to know, but I doubt they'd only put out nothing but chicks for Obol. >>422358 Isn't that where they game is made? That would be the one you'd listen to for this kind of thing.
>>422358 Which is the region that matters the most since it's not a translation but dialogue written directly by the devs. If i'm remembering correctly apparently in CN the words they used for seed is "they" and "them" but it's some sort of masculine synonyms cause Chinese is weird and they have different versions of "they" and "them". So Seed being a sentient mech suit and a pilot sounds more plausible
Flower, the female bangboo pilot of Seed, is also the failsafe suicide bomb spoken of in the leaks
>>422346 M1 Koleda is good QoL improvement.
>>422343 Based
>>422367 Lycaon for the character so you can use the 1.0 meta team Brimstone (S11s engine) as it is not only her signature but is also a great universal attacker engine
>>422343 I know it's a whiles away but hopefully you have an enjoyable trip. Even if I miss out, it's still a cool thing to do for /zzz/ bros so thanks in advance.
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>>422364 Bibicute!
>>422370 Listen to certain "twink males" voices in CN and compare them to their ENKek/JP voicelines, that's how Hoyo slides homobait under the nose of the CCP. They don't care if "other cultures" are the ones getting "degraded" (according to them)
>>422372 >>422373 yeah so it's either the chinese being weird or a GIGANTIC misunderstanding i'm not really shocked about the whole seed gender/pilot thing because it was there since the very first leak
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>>422191 >>422318 But seriously, they have the audacity of hyping this up during the livestream and then this shit is everything??
>>422385 It worked, I want chicken now
>>422353 SEED has way too many potential storybeats and metatext caveats surrounding them, it's a fucking mess The Great Eous Robo is a good sign but there's always gonna be the "overworld walking model" hurdle and stuff like that which no one can predict
>>422367 M1 Rina is the most value out of the standards. M1 S11 makes her more easier to play/manage. If you want a new character Lycanon might not be a bad pick since Ellen is getting buffed and you don't have Trigger. For engines Brimstone is your best pick.
>>422385 I literally found nearby spots to try and get some merch, time to buy some slopperino.
>>422385 I mean it's shitty. There are no locations on my little euro island either. It just so happens that I'm flying to visit home around the time the promo is going on. I had never even heard of Beard Papas before this. I hate the name, apparently it's Japanese? Should be something like KFC. And it seems I won't be getting that freaky little bangboo which is a shame.
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hellfire gears for lighter or Weeping Cradle for Rina/lucy? i cant decided >>422376 . alright thanks
Anyone else find it curious that most of the QoL mentioned in the livestream is mostly centred around PC and controllers and barely anything is mentioned for mobile?
does Seth have any tech?
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>>422353 I'm with you bwo, shit is upsetting. >>422384 If this whole thing is simply about Magus taking over Seed and their consciousness melding together then I'd be very relieved.
>>422370 >acts like a wuss Haru only tries to get out working, when it comes down to it he will put his life on the line for someone.
>>422399 I am convinced they will try to keep it in the backburner, maybe hopebros are right, most of the sales might come from PC and console.
Do you think there's an audience for 60 second boss guides or would they be even more convenient to the average player than reading?
>>422396 >And it seems I won't be getting that freaky little bangboo which is a shame Don't tell me there will be an exclusive boo on top of that... >>422386 >>422394 Well yeah, I would get it too. If I wouldn't have to take a plane to the UK for it
inconvenient*
>>422399 The resources management thing is pretty big for mobile, no? Can't imagine ZZZ's weight being a huge issue on PC/consoles. >>422406 Bro, people don't even read their ability descriptions. A video that you can put out as a short would be massive IMO.
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>>422405 Honestly I just hope they don't abandon optimising for mobile mostly because I'm really enjoying being able to play it on my retroid pocket 5. At least give me a switch 2 port or i would have to wait till the steam deck 2 comes out.
>>422405 Mobile is for doing dailies, spending battery, and doing hangout with Corin while laying down on your bed.
>>422399 Good, the main thing holding back the gameplay and tech is mobilefags Best case scenario they continue to improve and make the game more catered towards PC and consoles, but make a seperate version of zzz with watered down features and gameplay so people can still do their dailies on their commute or at work. but if they just outright abandon mobile as a platform then i wouldn't shed any tears since my shitty 5 year old sony xperia can't even install ZZZ anyway
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>>422407 It's entirely possible that I made it up in my head. I just see the fried chicken bangboo and my instincts to covet it take over.
>>422406 If you want to make something just go ahead and do it, personally though I think bosses can be almost fully understood after the first time you fight them. Maybe some tricks for the DA rotation's bosses specifically would be interesting?
>>422399 I mean do people even play ZZZ on mobile? Seems like a pain honestly.
>>422415 Yeah but they only mentioned the pc for it. I fucking hope it comes to mobile.
>>422423 With controllers, yes. Or on Android gaming handheld like >>422416
>>422407 I wonder why they don't make massive collabs, fucking league of keks got Coca-cola collabs back then. >>422423 I did during my vacations and it indeed is a fucking pain.
>>422405 >might Nobody plays ZZZ on mobile and even mobilefags shouldn't be purchasing from the appstore or google play.
>>422423 Don't casually question my existence like that...
>>422365 >Feel free to post a Bashful/SteamOven/Brimstone M0 clear with builds. I don't have Trigger so I can't. M1 Qingyi is the closest thing I have but I have a feeling that you won't accept that. I have Pulchra but Pulchra Astra doesn't work against typhon and Pulchra Nicole is significantly worse than Sanby's bis team. Also I would much rather use marcato desire than brimstone.
>>422421 I really hope not or I will have to look for an anon I can pay to get it for me. But it would be cool, I can't deny that..
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>>422406 There could be some real use for 60 second guides honestly. Though it seems the people who need such a thing to most have adopted the "It's pro-consumer for everything to be ezmode" line of thinking and may see such a thing as "Sweaty elitism"
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>>422405 Anyone that plays this on their mobile outside of being on holidays/away from home for days at a time deserves it at this point. I do dailies every other weekend on mobile when I'm gone and want to kms
>>422406 If you can do zoomer style editing for Tik tok or YouTube shorts why not?
JuFufu's pink summits...
>>422434 Figures >>422438 Also the game shows up high in Sony's most played games, I think the game unexpectedly ended up being their console market breakthrough, because the game looks great on high power devices.
GET OUT OF MY HOUSE
I FEEL like it's possible to get 20k on Typhon with lvl 50 Seth and Grace, but holy fuck is managing Shock fucking annoying. At least I got to 60k total I guess
>>422406 where do you get high res images of bosses like this?
>>422450 Bwo... Just level your agents....
>>422450 Bro how do you have Harufagsa and no Miyabi, no Astra, no Evelyn, no rata, no Zhu......
>>422464 Bwo might be a newcutie
>>422442 Too flat. I hate this kind of fan art. She just looks like a child. She should be around 13-17, not 10 years old.
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>>421332 its either that or they're sparkplugs and shes an Elec agent.
>>422465 How's that lineup count as newcutie...?
>>422462 At some point I will. At the moment my only agents above 50 are Harumasa, Hugo and Evelyn. >>422464 Started on Evelyn (hours before Harumasa giveaway ended lol) and I do have her.
>>422478 Next time try Spreading your power, Eve + Lighter should get 2 stars anywhere unlike Harumasa. Build a scuffed disorder team (Grace + Piper might be enough) for disorder shill nodes.
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>>422471 I think I prefer Burnice with the socks but the spats on Anby? An atrocity to be sure.
>>422470 To be fair, everyone doesn't grow at the same rate.
>>422473 probably pulchra m6 from burnice or sanby and m6 nicole from evelyn/qingyi pretty normal for a newcutie
>>422488 they also censored the lenght of Burnice's skirt
>>422440 I'm just going to repurpose some assets I made for something else and try not to make it too epileptic
>>422497 Don't think it counts as a censor if its an entirely different outfit.
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>>422497 Good catch. They added another layer of ruffles to obscure that sweet upper thigh meat. Pochemu?
>>422501 I will be severely fucking pissed if they "change the outfit entirely" when they release Lucia
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>>422471 wtf, do they have laws against winking?
>>422505 Most likely because their pizza brand is big and they don't want to deal with character sexualization, so they are playing it safe
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>You now suddenly feel hungry
>>422399 zzz in pc is +110 GB zzz in phones is +30 gb laptops and PCs with 500 GB SSD are the ones suffering
>>422510 If AL skins are anything to go by, this year there isn't much CN censorship at all, the only stuff that gets censored is if the pubic region is too visible but I haven't seen any booba censorship in a long while.
>>422448 First attempt with Brimstone Anby. I think I can beat your score if I optimize my discs and gameplay a bit.
>>422522 >Suddenly I haven't eaten today, this and Anby loving burgers has been torture
>>422535 I mean Caesar got changed quite a bit, but I hope not. >>422537 Go on, I am waiting.
>>422531 autoplaying kot for u
>>421327 https://hoyo.link/Fr99fQeXd?u_code=CAGJFEMFDG2K Every time I click someone's link it always shows this. How does this even work?
>>422531 You can expand PCs to like multiple terabytes for cheap. On phone most people go for 256gb and every phone company killed off SD card slots.
>>422556 Only new pre-registrations work.
>>422556 It doesn't kek. Once you are pre-registered clicking on new links does nothing for either of you
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>>422542 Yeah but this game kind of released at the height of censorship so it is what it is sadly If CN AL can get this without censorship then Lucia is completely fine. Would also explain why we're getting more jiggly butts in this game.
>>422556 You can only support once per account.
>>422574 CN AL never cared, if anything there always been super lewd CN gachas. Hoyo censors itself because it's profitable to be family friendly.
>>422510 > when they release Lucia Anon...
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Is there any way I can prefarm the new white haired chinese chick or are all of her mats are new like with Miyabi?
>>422345 >1:56 with the 1.0 ice team post your Ellen I'm trying to improve mine
Rolling I dont have the thing tell me who I got
>>422599 Hope you saved your batteries
>>422599 miyabi's mats were the same as everyone elses...?
>>422599 I think the only thing you can do right now is prefarm ether chips, weapon exp, character exp, and dennies.
should we tell him? >>422591
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She cute
I got a ZZZ ad today. I was on a Japanese VPN and the whole thing was in Nipponese. It showcased Ellen for some reason. She's not even on the banner right now.
>>422619 HSR used Natasha (4* free unit) and Bailu (5* standard unit) ads for over a year
>>422578 Of course they cared, no one wants censorship especially when you pay money for it. Hoyo does censor themselves but with characters like torigga, sanby and eve I don't think there's any worry about Lucia getting censored. >>422599 Only basic mats and ether chips You can, of course, get 2400 battery power and spend it all on getting hp% def% jufufu sets and anomaly mastery shifu sets
>>421745 These disks aren't real
>>422627 Nice to meet you, I'm Natasha. An underworld doctor. Feeling sick?
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I'd even try to do some Tepes runs with my S11, but the mere though of having to deal with the grouping phase make me preemptively want t kill myself. >>422619 I haven't seen a single ZZZ ad here since TGS 2023.
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>>422619 First Hoyo ad?
>>422646 >Duke Inferno lmao
Rolling Lighter without having a single thing of his pre-farmed with no batteries is the most miserable thing ever
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>>422646 how do they spend so much cash on advertising and manage to have such garbage ads at the same time? is marketing outsourced?
>>422599 >>422641 Oh, correction You can probably prefarm 2pieces for the new chars if you're so inclined but yeah other than that not really
don't forget me...
>>422650 He's pretty good with all skills @ level 1 actually.
>>422646 >>422653 Honestly, it's kind of crazy that, for all the polish and professionalism that goes into the games themselves, that Hoyo struggles to make ads that don't make the games look like cheap bitcoin miner slop
>>422671 YER DUN
>>422672 THINK YOU CAN TAKE ME
>>422653 Probably some contract fuckery or maybe they just don't care about removing the old ones They do have some cool ones like the KKOMDA ones which makes it all the weirder >>422670 The live action ones are cringekino though
>>422666 >>422653 I've heard that companies make these ads so shit on purpose so people talk about them. A normal ad you just skip and never think about it again but these ads make more buzz and I guess reach more people than a normal ad would.
>>422688 Even bad attention is still attention. Like how John Cena was still filling up arenas regardless that everybody hated him
>>422688 They do, yeah The bad "this is how mafia works" ads were talked about a whole ton in their prime and then everyone started making cringe on purpose https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yke9BhP1uks look at this shit, a compilation alone has 8million views
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>>422601 What W-Engine are you running on Soukaku? It should probably be Kaboom if it's P5. Also, you should probably run either Woodpecker, Shadow Harmony, or even Hormone Punk (if it fits your play style) x4 over Polar Metal. Also also, you're ~one sub-stat overcapped on CRIT. You only have 28 relevant sub-stats, which is very low. If you're running Soukaku, your #5 should either be DMG% or PEN%. Normally PEN%, but if your Trigger has her W-Engine, then DMG% is most likely to be better. Replacing it with your current set, though, would probably be a bad idea because your ATK would plummet, but when you're farming a new set, keep in mind that ATK% sub-stats are also very valuable. Yes they are generally weaker than CRIT sub-stats but when you have so few of them, their relative effectiveness increases.
>>422542 I recorded the run if you care.
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>>422633 I spent all of last patch and 2 weeks into this one farming them
rolling for chinky or fufu
noooo i dont want to go out and exercise
>>422730 what is this?
>>422741 Fortune rolls on the pre-register website, log in for free polys and stuff https://hoyo.link/Fr99fQeXd?u_code=CAGUMK62JX2K
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>>422730 >Eve ID You gotta do it bwo. >>422741 It's on the 2.0 pre register site. Click one of the anons' links bwo. >>421327
>>422755 >Eve ID How do you get character IDs?
>>422757 >Seth ID is clueless
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>>422725 That being said, I'd probably recommend rolling Red discs to new players. Dennies and Platings are limited early on, if you have to run HIA for Dennies or, god forbid, Platings, you have already lost all the advantage crafting them up offers.
>>422752 >>422755 I see. Thanks. Here is my link if anybody wants to help. https://hoyo.link/Fr99fQeXd?u_code=CAGEQKEYLY2K
>>422591 >>422612 Lurk more >>422700 Post Sanby disks, mine are shit but I dunno how shit.
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>>422725 >Build Nicole 10/10 guide
>>422774 >>422779 Thanks bros. Is there something 4chan X esque? I miss image previews and being able to press F to only look at images..
>>422787 https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts?q=8chan Get FullchanX and 8ChanSS https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts?q=lynxchan Get Lynxchan Extended minus minus.
>>422619 Ellen means a lot to the developers (as stated in the 2.0 stream) and is one of the most popular characters
>>422772 My Sanby build is optimized for playing her with sig and Astra. The only thing I bothered changing was Pulchra.
>>422800 You probably want Swing Jazz on Nicole, especially if you play her with Astra. Unless you never use her Chain Attack, which you probably should, but I dunno, maybe SAnby's CA is godly or something.
>>422768 Honestly, if you're still new and you're running out of dennies, you should bring your ass to hollow zero or do some of the old events
>>422807 I almost never play Astra Nicole and having her on Astral voice seems good in most teams.
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Should I pull for Yi Xuan as new player?
>>422811 True that there's a lot of "legacy" content nowadays, so there's probably quite a bit of Dennies to be earned, so I don't know for sure, but I know that when I was still actively building out my account, drying HZ for dennies (not just Z-merits, full 15 weekly runs) was still not enough to not be short on them. >>422815 That's fair, I don't know what squads are you running. Astral is pretty much mandatory if you can use it, Swing Jazz is more situational, but it tends to be better than whatever is the "intended" set for "supports" with a few notable exceptions (like Freedom on Soukaku).
>>422799 Ellen is a teenager with fat tits.
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>>422820 Pull who you like
how do you win against this
>>422820 It seems that she'll have a bunch of content more or less made for her. If you skip her, fighting new enemies in Deadly and Shiyu might become very annoying. If you're unsure, you might want to wait until the leaks for the details on the following patch. If we'll get another Rupture, skipping her might be somewhat safe, but I wouldn't bet on it.
>>422662 will never forget bibi
>>422842 What's Rupture?
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>>422835 So whats the best 4p for Ellen bc rn using this but do plan on changing after the buff
>>422853 what my dick is gonna do with Jufufu's hymen
>>422851 the bibi agenda must be pushed
>>422853 Yi Xuan's specialization. It's new and is going to be introduced to the game in her patch.
>>422839 kabedon
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>>422662 Bibi lives rent free in my head
>>422858 good agenda she's so gorgeous
>>422828 Because of the current lack of support agents I almost always find myself playing Astra, Nicole, Lucy on a team each in DA. I can't be bothered changing my Nicole discs for Shiyu so I just don't pair Nicole Astra together much.
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>>422800 You have way better disks than me anon KEK, I think I might me missing proper crit nukes at critical times by having 44% crit rate. I should try to grind the mines after I finish prefarming Onion boobs and Jufufu, I stopped farming SAnby's disks as soon as Trigger dropped, and the few good disks I got where from Bibians set.
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Just remember Bibi will be cheering for you wherever you are, Phaethon-sama!
>>422854 Probably 'ecker. Ellen plays mostly on-field, which is why she'll also do well with aftershock or quickswap stunners.
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>>422854 Hormone, Woodpecker, or Shadow Harmony. Woodpecker is the default one, and it has the best 2x piece out of all three. The downside is that Ellen's Dodge Counter is garbage, so outside of her burst, getting two stacks means losing damage. Shadow Harmony has the best 4x set effect but its 2x set is pretty bad. Hormone is pretty straightforward, it's 2x set isn't too bad, but its 4x effect is the weakest among the three. But if you time your activations it can be very strong - depends on how are you playing. Between all three, Woodpecker is the safest one to focus-farm (only by tuning in Bardic Needle, though, the Routine Cleanup stage is terrible), because virtually everyone can make use of the 2x set.
>>422820 Yes If you dont like her then go for Astra (or both if you have the pulls)
>>422854 >best I'm not too sure myself. Those are my discs from 1.0 days, I haven't tested other combinations. If you plan on running Ellen with Soukaku and Lycaon, then Polar Metal is good as you'll be freezing enemies a lot with Soukaku, and Ellen benefits from the basic/dash attack bonus. For other teams you may want 4 Woodpecker + 2 Brand and Blade Song.
I will be skipping Yi Xuan and Astra (again) and nobody can stop me
>>422881 Don't forget she gets 10% cr from her passive if it's active.
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>>422895 I think her dodge counter will have more value after her buff in 2.0
>>422903 still that only takes me to 54%, basically I might only be nuking half of the time for 144% crit damage. I havent tried using Marcattussy to compensate for my shit rolls, maybe I should try that tomorrow.
>>422895 With her buffs, Ellen's dash attack will be strong too. And from the video they showed, the new attack has iframes as well. She should still go with 'ecker, though. Since she uses all of her kit.
What's Yi Xuan's team building options other than Pan and Jufufu?
>>421891 bunny suit
hugo ass
>>421891 Birthday suit.
>>422925 This and Ellen wearing a Sharkboo outfit
>>422912 I'm actually not sure. They are adding auto-parry to scissors, so you'll be using it even less. But, because this whole interaction is so retarded, I wouldn't be surprised if they change her Perfect Dodge > Roaming Hunt cancel to count as a Dodge Counter as well. >>422916 I don't think they are changing anything about the Dash Attack, aside from the auto-parry. Harmony is good because you're pretty much guaranteed to always keep it fully stacked, but 8% CRIT Rate across the entirety of your kit is better than 15% DMG on just Dash Attacks, especially given Ellen already has a bunch of DMG%. But then again, if you're using her signature, it's very easy to overcap on Crit Rate as is.
>>422897 Astra is that good? I feel like I need a DPS atm
>>422933 She is the best steroid in game, basically anything can clear endgame with her
>>422926 why is this shit so low quality my bad >>422933 astra is retardedly strong and enables a lot of dumb dps options https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJBWbi04r5k
>>422933 Yeah in your case you should prioritise Yixuan but im recommending you Astra since she provides incredible flexibility for any of your agents
>>422730 heh, I get to stay in and avoid trouble
>>422933 Astra is BiS for Vivian. Also, if you get Lucy someday you can do Lucy-Piper-Vivian Astra-Nicole-(any A-rank Attacker or maybe Miyabi)
>>422933 DPS agents are not as important as team enabling stunners and supports in this game
that bitch has just too much hp
>>422949 ANON WHY DO YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME WHY DO YOU REMIND ME BORING ASS ASTRA IS BIS FOR MY PERFECT WIFE WHY SO CRUEL WHHYYYYYYYYYYYYY fuck
>>422954 Are you breaking its hands, similar to the doggo armor?
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>>422931 Ellen's charged scissors chains into the new move, and like you said, with the parry she can always pull it off. Though I don't know off what skill does it scale. Her core passive was also buffed to include her Ultimate, which was already strong. So a set that buffs everything should work better for her.
>>422942 Astra is so ridiculous lmao, the vast majority of her "gameplay" is watching her spin on-field and sing off-field.
>>422958 Astra is not boring - she's pretty advanced. If you don't build your rotations around her, you'll be leaving quite a lot of damage on the table. >>422963 They called the new move a Basic Attack during the stream. If it's classified as a Dash Attack then you're right, but if it's explicitly a BA, then Shadow Harmony 2x won't help its damage.
>>422881 I did expect this. The point of my first post was that Sanby, Trigger, Astra should perform better if you have good discs and play the fight well. And getting Jufufu probably won't solve your problem. I wasn't trying to talk shit it just bothers me when people undervalue Sanby.
>>422975 i mean boring design wise blandest design ever id love to love her, she is insanely strong and enables a lot of shit and sweats
>>422975 How do you rotate around her i just press the shiny button whenever i can
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>>422982 >blandest design ever ...I like her >:(
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>>422923 Everyone who got Rupture added to their passives would work. Astra, Lucy, Pulchra, Koleda.
>There are two characters in SEED >Seed (A) and a Girl (S) inside him >Both are playable characters separately On one hand, this means they're bringing back Combo attacks like Koleda + Ben On the other hand, fuck Mihoyo And fuck the "leaker" who "leaked" this. I hope they're wrong or SEED is the S rank. Else I hope for their downfall.
>>422959 If only she uses yellow parrys and not red all the time.
>>422942 What did I just see..? >>422949 She is? Any video for it?
>>422980 Yeah the "skill part" was doubtful from my part because I didn't get hit once (I have autismoreset if I get hit) and I didn't expect disks to make that much of a difference, thanks anon.
>>422987 i dont judge you anon ive been judged by liking vivian preference is not something we can choose or explain i guess
>Quick Shiyu clear video >Dude has a whale team YAWN
>>422975 I was talking about the utility of her dash attack to activate 'ecker's effect. She also has he icy blade which would probably scale off one of her skills. All in all, she'd be one of the rare characters to actively use all of her kit.
>>422989 WTF? Was this in the livestream? I must've missed it.
THANK YOU TUNING CALIBRATOR VERY COOL
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>>423004 Nyes, pretty sure it was. Was also known throughout the betas.
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>>422984 >get gregnant >you're pregananant
>>422982 >blandest design ever You're one to talk
>>423019 need handjob from piper with her gloves on
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I've basically farmed nothing but character exp for like the past 2 weeks cause I'm sick of running out
>>423032 Not what I meant but this is good too
I don't like Astra because she suddenly sings Chinese
>>422293 >>422323 >>422353 >>422358 >>422373 I come with proof All I know is SEED is an intelligent construct (sapient robots a la Billy/Qingyi), is a 'she' and likes tending to plants and flowers and that's itl. The pronoun change happened after the Roaming the Ether event which had some info about the now OBOL Squad members: Diamond Division's SEED Obsidian Division's Magus (before he got turned into a talking gun) Chrysoberyl Division's Trigger >>422384 >>422402 I haven't seen the show but mihoyo really likes evangelion so it's probably is some sort of reference to that
>>422985 She has grouping, so you would normally use that at least in Shiyu. She can force Quick Assists (even without energy) - that's a universal cancel you can use to improve your rotations (doesn't apply just to her, but hers is the most easily accessible). Her special passive QA (then one that uses her energy) is something you have to actively monitor, because if she runs out of energy, you might run out of her buff. That's especially important if you're playing a DPS/quick-swap Support (like Nicole)/Astra because it's very easy to spend all Astra's EX buffing the quick-swap support. You can also override her special Quick Assist with a well-timed manual swap to her, when you don't want to switch to another agent. She also has her Ultimate and extra Chain Attacks she enables. You can manually cancel her Idyllic Cadenza (or time your swaps on some agents) to have the same agent do two Chain Attacks back to back - Evelyn uses that a lot. So Astra adds a lot of options to your rotations, and she also makes you watch her energy and memorize timings of QA prompts so you can get the buffs refreshed on agents you want to have it on. She might feel very passive and low-maintenance but her presence makes everything quite a bit more complicated.
>>422794 >>422795 Thanks a lot.
Pre-alpha Nicole
>>423050 anby buttcrack
>>422989 Why wasn't it added to Soukaku?
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>>423044 I swear each time i see some SEED dialogue they always use "~"
>>423050 negromata
>>422993 I just realized finding a recent vid is hard because Astra is incredibly on-demand and she's also BiS in other teams lmao. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLA3sUvGj-Y&t=240s Technically Astra has her sig here but the gap between her sig and Lucy's sig(which is what f2p Astra uses) is pretty small AFAIK.
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>>423044 I do not want to incur in salesfagging but I might say that Hugo's and Lighter's performance might have something to do with this.
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Only Corn and Billy left. Evens I raise Corn, odds I raise Billy
>>423067 >1.5 >hugo
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>>423068 Ok Corngods which sets do I go for?
>>423075 You see the pronoun thing in asian languages is more nuanced, BUT what other reason could there be behind retconing Seed?
>>423044 Magus' gender is also confusing because she also was changed to use female pronouns and the original leaks with Ghostfire used them too. I don't recall Eva having anything specifically to reference that desu. I'm fine as long as Seed is a robot and that's all. >>423055 Probably same reason Lycaon didn't get it, to keep them Ice specialists. Wonder if they'll get it if we get an Ice Rupture.
>>423082 Just saying it was happening before two patches before Hugo.
>>423050 They were trying really hard not to animate mouths, huh?
>>421435 >>421444 You can see in the video that the AIs are hacking the interknot to get this information in the first place, so unless it's such a massive secret that they feel the need to lie even in the protected data I think it's true.
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>>423078 4p hormone punk 2p woodpecker/branch & blade
>>423045 Oh wow i'm gonna redo my shiyu runs asap this is insanely useful info, thanks anon
>>423087 That's a common look for vandals, wearing a mask to not be identified.
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>>423096 Thanks Cornbwo
>>423067 Cause in complete and brutal honesty, Lighter and Hugo were made for fags and women. If SEED is released as an S-rank and he's a badass robot male without any twinky for (you) pandering, then i'd bet my left testicle he'd outsell Hugo and Lighter. ZZZ's main demographic is straight men, if you want straight men to roll for males, then make them actually cool and badass instead of thirst bait for women and fags
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>>423078 >Fanged Metal Fairy's trolling you. Can't believe the devs still hasn't changed that shit. I use Hormone Punk 4pc and BnB 2pc.
>>423085 Yeah I understand that, but I cannot fathom a logical reason to swap him randomly. Maybe they know something we don't? >>423102 Maybe Mihoyo doesn't really know how to release non-twink males? Has there ever been a non-twink, badass doomguy/vergil/dante-like character in a Mihoyo game?
>>423111 there were non twinks but all of them were very homosexual
>>423045 >Astra has grouping What the actual fuck, I just press the swap button randomly and occasionally press her ult.
SEED should be a BIG, POWERFUL, GIRL ROBOT. Not a girl piloting a BIG POWERFUL ROBOT but a BIG POWERFUL GIRL ROBOT.
>>423102 Honestly, I wouldn't even say they were made for fags, at least not Hugo. Fags don't usually like the effeminate bishounen types, they usually like characters like Pompey more.
>>423111 Gallagher and Gepard are the only ones I can think of. Mydei too...if only he wasn't a flaming faggot.
>>423102 >>423111 Alhaitham almost was that male character but you know what Hoyo did to him in the end
I'm picking S11 and Koleda's W-Engine btw
>>423112 that's my point, never have they released male edge masters >>423117 my homo best friend would like to differ.
>>423128 they are called mihomo for a reason
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>>423115 hm nah i want this
>>423115 I'd be okay with it but it's strange to double down for an even nicher audience. A masculine robot but is a girl is an even harder sell than just a cool robot.
>>423126 He's cool and I don't care what headcanon the GI fanbase has about him and his roommate, it's wrong.
>>423111 Neither Lighter or Hugo (pre-model adjustment) were twinks. Lighter was heavily (You)-pandering though which makes his appeal niche for heterosexual male players than might otherwise find his character archetype cool.
>>423115 I'd accept this too. I just don't want Seed to be a h*man. But there's even less chance of Hoyo doing that, a non humanoid non sexualised female robot is possibly the only thing that would sell worse
>>423145 What if its a human controlling the robot from somewhere else
>>423111 Never played any other hoyo game, but we literally have Billy, Ben and Anton. But hoyo just made them A-ranks cause I guess they have an aversion to making actual S-rank Bros. I know it's hypocritical cause i like it when the women in the game are for (you) but fucking hell just give me a cool male S-rank that isn't trying to suck my cock, thought china was supposed to be against homos.
>>423121 There was also Jing Yawn, he was one of the highest selling banners. Say what you will about the Chinawank, but he's not really a fujo-pandering character.
Is there leaks of 2.1 yet or we need to wait a week? Pic related
>>423155 Ah right I forgot about him, yeah he's not too bad I guess.
>>423098 Which makes masks really good excuses to not animate flappy speech movements. I'm glad they decided not to go with the faceless goon look in the end. Well, except for Billy, but Billy is cool.
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Fufu
>>423141 I cannot put my finger "where" but he looks like homo/yumebait to me, maybe he needs to look older to fall into the "cool" category for me, Anton looks like a fighting game character, Lighter doesnt. I read somewhere that there's a point of muscle mass that females stop considering attractive but males continue respecting, I think he is not past that point. >>423152 Agree, they even twinkified Hugo. I liked the Hugo that showed to the bangboo event
>>423149 Honestly, I think Blade is one of the coolest male characters Hoyo has ever made, shame they stuck him in Fujo hell with Dan
>>423156 Unless they pull another Sanby/Trigger fakeout patch, it should be Yuzuha and Alice.
When are they announcing the Starlight Knights spinoff?
>>423172 Meant for >>423155
>>423169 Lighter looks like a kpop singer cosplaying an american character. He even has the exact same hairstyle that every asian kid has, and at first glance his design just screams "I am trying very desperately to appear cool".
>>423191 Couldn't have said it better anon, it's a shame because I liked the terry references.
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>>423199 NICOLE STOP STEALING ANBY'S BURGERS
>>423199 braphog nicole
>>423169 Lighter just needed a slightly heavier build like Anton that's closer to how he's portrayed in his character art. Mihoyo played it too safe when it came to his model but I don't think that's really too much of a turnoff for his intended target demographic. But given the popularity of LADS, going all the way probably wouldn't have hurt either.
>>423199 Holy fucking shit that do be to much rizz for me, the video no diffed my braincells
>>423199 this hurts me inside
Since you all are talking about it. Name some males from anime you like. I personally think that Kazuma from Kaze no Stigma is pretty cool.
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>>423232 >Kaze no Stigma
>>423204 > >>423208 Yeah it's clear they targeted the non-existant yume community. I played Anton before nagi and I liked his bro personality and explosive gameplay, they transeferred s o m e of that into Lighter but Lighter is trying SO BAD to play it cool, like Yumebait, Maybe they wanted to play it safe with Lighter or something.
>>423238 >but Lighter is trying SO BAD to play it cool That's completely in-character though.
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<still expecting "cool males" in the gacha genre feels like ragebait at this point, girl piloting a robot is what the average gacha player will pick. just play armored core 6 at this point
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>>423232 I just want a cool old man character like Hijikata Toshizou from Golden Kamuy
>>423232 Spike Spiegel and Vash the Stampede. Now if the game had some males like that besides Billy I might roll for them.
>>423232 Like every character from hajime no ippo
>>423232 General Armstrong from FMA or Vergil/Dante/Doomguy, testosterone gameplay is what heterosexual males like in male characters. >>423247 To me that's lame, Anton is happy being retarded and naive but Lighter looks unconfident to me. Males judge value on confidence.
>>423208 there's this CG from the end of his character story where his shoulders are like twice as wide as they are in his model. i think they are just afraid of the eastern side of their audience being put off by BIG DUDES
>>423250 Too bad Mihoyo is lead by monkeys
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>>423232 I like Iskandar and I rolled for him when I still played FGO
>>423232 One generic literally me agent who constantly ends up in the lewdest situations the CCP will allow, please. >But Anon, that's Wise The hell it is. They can do better than that.
>>423267 My brother in Christ look at the WWWE, his babyface is what repels westerners.
Is Joyous the "literally me" character of this game?
>>423248 there are plenty of other gacha that have cool male characters with male-focused appeal, it's literally just mihoyo that can't figure this out for some reason. >>423269 case in point, although iskandar had the benefit of already being an insanely popular franchise character
>>423263 I like Armstrong a lot, he's a cool guy and a real bro.
>>423238 >>423208 Like I said here >>423102 ZZZ's main demographic is straight men, idk how profitable fag-bait is on genshin or starrail, but it's clear that making sexually appealing does not work for ZZZ despite the fact that, and I know this phrase is a beaten dead horse, we've solidified ourselves as the "gooner" game of Hoyo. Sex only sells on ZZZ if it's a woman, I'm still huffing copium that Seed is a male and he's going to be Hoyo's experiment to see how well a non-yume badass and cool male would sell.
>>423232 onizuka
>>423287 it's clear that making men who's main appeal is that they're supposedly sexy does not work for ZZZ*
>>423263 >Koleda pick I'd unironically roll for Khors in heartbeat, especially if he synergized well with Koleda. I wish ZZZ would think outside of the (You) pandering angle a bit and realize that characters can have an appeal outside of wanting to date them.
>>423268 It's too bad they killed him off so quickly. Off screen. Does he stay dead?
I refuse to believe there's anyone younger than 30 ITT.
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>>422191 wheres canada…
>>423302 Notorious Pompey is supposed to be Pompey after Caesar knocked him into the lake.
>>423304 I was born in this millennium
>>423287 I think the issue is that ZZZ is underperforming compared to other Mihoyo games so they are trying to attract the non straight male audience too. But the game mechanics are too action focused for your average yumejoshi so it would never work
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How we doin' today zzz?
>>423309 how the fuck is he still weak to fire
>>423308 we aren't important enough bwo
>>423284 Whenever I am bench pressing 200 pounds, I think of Armstrong anon, I understand the bro community. >>423287 Yeah they have to start poking in bro culture, they have never done it before. >>423298 >outside of (you) the problemo is, sucessful banners all have been (you) banners so devs might have an idea about their market. >>423313 Yeah it should be obvious, I suspect they realised that before 2.0
>>423315 I think he also fell into a fissure but ended up somewhere else in the hollow.
>>423304 I'm probably gonna be a n(1)gger since I'm phoneposting but I was in the womb for 9/11.
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>>423232 Byakuya has always been my standard on what makes a cool dude. Backed up arrogance/elitism is always a treat
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>>423304 I was a toddler on 9/11 so I have that other anon slightly beat
>>423313 Yeah and attracting non straight males is clearly not working and is actually harming it, i'm not salesfagging but it's clear that most players don't bother rolling the men because they're so sexually charged and for (you). Are there probably a shit load players that will only roll a character if they're a sexy woman that's for (you)? Yeah, probably. But if Hoyo really wants to put S-rank males into the game, they'll have to make it so they appeal to more than just ~1% of the playerbase
>>423309 Well, there's that at least. It's too bad, I was coming to like his character before that incident.
>>423304 I'm 24
>>423319 >>423325 I was born AFTER 9/11
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>>423232 Super Robot protags. Ryoma Nagare, Sanger Zonvolt, Kyosuke Nanbu. >>423304 And that's a good thing.
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>>423326 >13 crit damage rolls Nice
Look at Nicole.
the new character reveals made me go back and check the original character trailer, and it's hard to believe it's been almost a year since this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGOynaQoofc all of these characters are obviously in the game now, did your pulling plans change from when you first saw this?
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>>423044 what if seed is a sexy robot lady like elfy and the big bulky suit is her combat armor
>>423338 >Grace feet jumpscare
Hehe nice
>>423343 Snake
>>423338 I thought Caesar was going to be a generic stoic badass but since she was actually cute I ended up rolling her. Same for Zhu Yuan. Yanagi's special episode also made her way more appealing than she was on launch.
>>423343 Show disks!
>>423343 >"nice" rank >Hitler disks based
>>423343 I wonder if after wasting so much time and resources farming Shadow Harmony for Trigger yes, I have decent discs for Bibian.
>>423339 If there's anything inside SEED other than mechanical components and a nvke it better be another robot
>>423313 Nah the real reason is the gameplay itself. Too easy at start for the typical gamer, too hardcore(somehow) at the end for gacha players. Muh tedium and muh menu hell is a big cope, almost all open world games are incredibly tedious and uninteresting. The reaction time based gameplay is just too much for the gacha crowd, it was never gonna work.
>>423339 Then I shan't be pulling. Badass male robot or sentient male mech or no pull.
>>423355 >open world This isn't an open world game. Well not the modern definition of open world, anyway.
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>>423359 Finally, some good fucking taste.
>>423319 Being a N(1)gger doesn't matter, it's sticking out like a sore thumb with low post counts that does.
Also content creators have been out for blood for this game since the beginning. The headlines for 1.0 was pretty bad.
>>423283 which ones? because arknights and wuwa males only cater to female players Unless you are talking about gachas based on established IPs like fgo, dokkan or any battle shonen gacha, thats another story.
>>423339 That doesn't actually sound like a bad idea if they want to make a SEED as big as as eousmech but still want her to be able to roam around the world
>>423359 The original Fate really was a goldmine of cool males.
>>423365 The game was weird at the start. TVs have filtered the room-temperature-IQ-in-Celsius normalfags. The combat system was hard to appreciate as the story was way too easy, and you had to play quite a bit to unlock the stable Shiyu, which was the first real challenge the game has offered.
>>422725 I did not know you could do this...
>>423369 calculator is cool though. ignoring the fact that he's a wuwa fandom meme now he has nothing but male appeal
>>423380 did you recycle B wengines?
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It's so weird seeing people talking about being born after 9/11 and realizing some of them could be in the mid 20s
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>>423304 27 chad here
>>423385 What does that have to do with the disc thingies?
>>423389 You get disk thingies of low grade and can use them to craft them for higher grade
>>423304 Reading how many old people play gacha games makes me reevaluate my hobbies
How is the sentiment towards this skin? In comparison to her default costume
>>423336 Cool, make her smaller now
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>>423386 Such is the passage of time. I hate it.
>>423117 There are a lot of fags who hate the usual Hoyo male: no facial hair, twink body type, safe male face. It would benefit both audiences if they made more badass characters like Billy. I think the problem is that they cater to women and not a majority of gay males so they make characters that women would roll for.
>>423350 Postan
>>423396 Pretty boring, tbh idk what they're thinking
>>423396 Honestly I think it's just ok. Her default outfit is way better.
>>423389 ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!
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Is this really BIS for stunners? Most attackers have a lot of crit damage already.
>>423394 You VILL keep playing gacha until you are in nursing home
>>423396 I feel like I'm the only one that really likes just how different it is from her default. Will be getting it and will be switching a lot. Though I don't blame anyone not being fond of it, seeing how her default is pure sexo
>>423403 I do I swear
>>423350 Hello I posted my disks but the reply did not spawn
>>423413 It's probably not better than Astral but you should already be running Astral anyway. It's better than Swing Jazz.
>>423413 That's 30% CD you don't have to have on your discs.
>>423414 AAAAIIIEEEEEEEEEE
>>423396 I don't like it at all. Here it doesn't even look that bad (not good, just not bad either) but in the trailer I thought it looked ugly. I got Astra's skin cause it was an upgrade to me. This is an easy skip
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>>423304 31 here gonna be 32 in August
>>423414 There are worse fates I suppose
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>>423418 Very nice!
>>423414 >>423394 I hope I keep playing video games till I die
>>423413 There's no other option except Shockstar, which is only better for Anomaly. And maybe Swing Jazz in some niche cases. But for any Stunner+Attacker combo you want Summit.
>>423386 I remember back when i was in my first year in secondary school, our teacher was talking to us about 9/11 and asked us about where we were when we heard about it, and literally none of us were born yet cause we were all born in 2002/2003, she just sat there in silence for a moment trying to process the fact
>>423432 Shockstar is so mid that runing Swing Jazz/Astral/Proto is not a bad idea.
KOT STATUS???
>>423232 I like this guy but most opm characters could work honestly
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>>423432 >And maybe Swing Jazz in some niche cases The niche cases are "you're already running Astral on someone else" or "you can't run Astral on anyone". The only time I needed 4xShockstar on a stunner was in the Assault Bomber Shiyu.
>>423232 Shiki Tohno solos your verse
>>423409 That is quite literally just Bache
>>423432 Well for example my Pulchra uses Proto Punk. I think it's not immediately clear that 30% crit damage is better than 15% damage, and proto punk is easier to keep active
A-rank Shiyu clear just dropped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTLxnltoAyw
>>423453 Gee, I wonder who designed her
>me, 20 years old >you are 30, what are you doing here >me, 30 years old >you are 20, what are you doing here
>>423458 >I think it's not immediately clear that 30% crit damage is better than 15% damage 30% CRIT Damage is equivalent to 18.75% DMG in terms of raw value >and proto punk is easier to keep active You can't reliably have Proto Punk cover the entirety of your burst, that's a pretty big downside of it. Also keep in mind, that on anyone not named Caesar, 2xProto doesn't do anything. Even Ben should be parrying attacks instead of trying to tank them.
>>423338 >Ellen To this day Ellen is still one of my absolute favorites so I didn't think twice about going for her, despite everyone doomposting her kit and comparing her to Seele. >Qingyi Wasn't quite sure to roll because I find her design a little too busy for my taste, but I liked her character so I ended up rolling anyway. >Caesar Never liked her design, and still don't. Ended up rolling just because I got spooked by her ball early, so I figured it would have been dumb to skip her at that point (I was rolling for Piper's ball). >Burnice I expected her to be an A rank, and I was pleasantly surprised when she turned out to be an S rank. >Miyabi To be perfectly honest, I wasn't quite impressed by her at first. Though after the redesign and when it became obvious she was broken beyond belief, I rolled with complete abandon. >Harumasa I still have no idea how the fuck this guy isn't an A rank, but oh well. So yeah, no major twists. I focus on the design above all else, so I generally stick to the original plan.
>>423304 I am 12
>>423394 you're laughing but +30 yo is the gacha target audience.
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>>423458 >Proto Punk on Pulchra Wasted on the 15% shield you're not getting, instead of getting more Daze on Stunners than already have high base Impact to benefit from it >proto punk is easier to keep active Summit requires you to use EX once (uno) (1) to get the full 30% for 15 seconds, which lasts longer than Proto Punk
>>423232 Probably the only anime I like these days and still rewatch. I just like him.
>>423232 Oh, and knight characters. Fucking love 'em. I would unironically roll Kain over most of the girls we know in 2.x.
>>423483 >more daze all my daze comes from parrying anyways, and 6% impact is peanuts >>423475 >30% CRIT Damage is equivalent to 18.75% DMG in terms of raw value crit damage is saturated
>>423396 I will find pantyhose with the thickest seams I can, wrap it around my dick and use it as a catalyst
Wow what a sad excuse for an event
>>423501 the worst part is that the story ends on a cliffhanger
>>423499 Don't forget your hair gel and balloon, bro
>>423415 I like how different it is too, for me it's this sort of situation
>>423304 feels odd being a 19yo on forums like these, everyone is pretty much my uncle on here
>>423232 Toyohisa from the best isekai
>>423501 Better than the food truck event. But if they have to run these kinds of nothing events they should just open up seasonal arcade events instead.
>>423498 >crit damage is saturated And so is DMG%. Given equal sub-stat distribution, CRIT Rate is stronger than DMG% of equal value (i.e. 8% CRIT Rate vs 10% DMG). Extra sources of CRIT DMG% means you can pump your CRIT Rate up as well, while keeping up the 1:2 ratio. It's something to look into in a case by case basis, but the vast, vast majority of the time, Swing is better than Proto, and Summit is better than either. Also 6% Impact you get is multiplied by your %Daze increase and in-combat %Impact increase. It adds up.
So she's the next officer mewmew? Has the same kind of neighborhood tasks but different layout
>>423510 Exactly, most of the time in other big gacha I hate how similar outfits are, I'd take this any day over a slightly different recolor
>>423525 She is the old officer mewmew.
>>423513 Watch out kid, lots of people are after teens in these places
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If it turns out that SEED was actually Officer Mewmew all along, what would your reaction be?
>>423525 well she sure is an improvement
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>>423501 Didn't mind it, easy to skip and you didn't need to read any of the slop they put there >>423498 Anon please, stop justifying your retarded hipster tendencies and give your Pulchra a normal set like Astral and not some brick, Astral give more DMG% if you're parring a lot, since you will be doing more quick assists that way.
>>423495 I'm surprised to see someone likes Lan-chan. I wish they would actually do more with him in game, it feels like the rest of the dragon knights left him behind in terms of character. Kain is great, liked him over Cecil when I played 4 long ago.
>>423525 >Mewmew is actually dead now I will never forgive Mihomo
>>423538 Disbelief. SEED is NEDF not NEPS
Good morning bwos, can we skip to 2.0 already?
>>423396 thank God her default costume is a million times better. I won't feel the need to buy it.
>>423518 How? The food truck event at least had nice artwork of the meals to look at and new character dialogue, this is a waiting room with half a story attached
Mewmew is Seth's older brother.
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>>423562 >Didn't mind it, easy to skip and you didn't need to read any of the slop they put there It's just such a wasted opportunity. Could've been like those RL Stine choose your own adventure thing. Give certain endings based on Agent selection
>>423577 no, I need to save
>>423590 More like I need to keep farming mats. God, this game is so stingy with mats
>>423577 >just realized 2.0 isn't next week fuck
>>423582 The food truck event forces you to memorize orders and go through multiple loading screens, which makes it worse by default. If you're going to have a food-based event at least make it a copy of the Cheesetopia event instead.
>>423604 Thank God! I still have other stuff I need to play. Even in two weeks is too soon for me...
>>423524 >And so is DMG%. Not as much as crit damage. >Extra sources of CRIT DMG% means you can pump your CRIT Rate up as well, while keeping up the 1:2 ratio. You realize that there's also an optimal ratio of damage to crit damage?
>>423589 >Give certain endings based on Agent selection Too much effort for a multi-million zhangcoins company. At least 2.0 looks good.
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I love this rat
>>423619 Tell me about the raperat. Why does she rape?
>>423313 I was going to call you a shitposter but you have a point everyone in season 2 aside from Yi Xuan is very moe. In year one sure the girls are cute but they had a sharper style.
>>423609 you can't even fail the food truck event, what are you talking about? if you pick the wrong order the bangboo chef just looks at you like a retard and you can just brute force it, lmao. none of these events are ever going to be challenging
>>423609 There were hints. I only even tried to read the first two orders.
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>>423604 Thats ok, Ill have my hands full next week
When's the free shit coming? Reinstalled the game but had nothing in my mailbox...
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>>423562 >Astral give more DMG% if you're parring a lot, since you will be doing more quick assists that way. parries don't count as quick assists for astral stacks, only the literal quick assist attacks that characters perform when the prompt comes up
>>423639 bwo...2.0 is still 10 days away...
I only look at Blue Archive stuff at this point and it will probably be that way until Jufufu's banner starts
>>423649 What the frick I got baited...
>>423644 When you parry (well, vital view) into Pulchra her assist attack prompts a quick assist.
>>423617 >Not as much as crit damage. Debatable. My Soldier 11 has more DMG% than CRIT DMG% >You realize that there's also an optimal ratio of damage to crit damage? Yes, and that ratio is generally 1:1 across sub-stat sources, however the CRIT part of the formula is simply a bigger multiplier. The core takeaway, though, is not that CRIT DMG% is always better than DMG% - that'd be very wrong. It's that Summit is virtually always better than Proto Punk. Summit can have 100% uptime throughout your burst. Proto Punk cannot. Summit doesn't care what your enemy is doing, Proto Punk does. Even sustained DPS agents like Soldier 11 deal the majority of their damage during the burst. And if you manage to saturate CRIT DMG% so much Proto Punk despite its massively worse uptime starts to outperform Summit - Swing Jazz would still be better than Proto Punk, unless your Support running it happens to be specifically Soukaku.
>>423656 T-that's a screamer isn't it...
>>423656 sneaky
>>423649 The Hugo banner will still be running during 2.0? Maybe I have a chance at rolling his ball after all.
>>423655 ah you meant pulchra specifically, in that case yeah there really isn't anything she should use but astral
>>423662 No it's a referral link, we both benefit if you use it
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>>423050 YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH THIS ANBY AND NEKO LOOK SO GOOOOOOD I DON'T CARE IF THEY TAKE THEM OFF ANYMORE, JUST GIVE ME MORE MASKS
>>423666 obviously no, what made you think that?
>There's a growing sentiment that Orpheus should get reworked like Wideyabi did Do you agree? For me, reading the text leak made me think Orpheus and Ghostfire will have a dynamic like Clara and Svarog, so seeing her be serious and intimidating in the initial trailer pissed me off. I'm very happy with the current design and if it gets reworked, I honestly don't know how I would react.
im so fucking horny goddamit
>>423638 is that sex therapist or sex the rapist?
>>423684 No? She's cute. Also there's no reason she can't be serious in combat but cute and moe outside of it.
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>>423684 It's a longshot but I hope she's truly mentally ill and flips between seriousness and manic cuteness in and out of combat.
>>423684 Growing sentiment where? On reddit? Ignore those retards lol. Bet it's the same people who wanted Castorice to be a girlboss cunt, and sperged out when she ended up being a waifu for "le evil incels".
>>423684 personally i think her face shape + hair shape make the head look too much like a balloon
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>>423684 Hell no, Orphie is cute. I was down for her either way though whether she retained her leak personality or had a new one. I'd rather people put their energy towards asking for robot Sneed.
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>>423690 I let that to your imagination
>>423698 >balloon OH NO NOT AGAIN
>>423684 The initial leak read like a Fofo and Tail dynamic, then the 2d trailer made her look more like a somber badass, in 3d she looks cute. I don't mind either way
>>423661 >Summit doesn't care what your enemy is doing, Proto Punk does. This might matter if I run into an enemy that I don't want to parry every two seconds. Given that I've yet to discover one, I'm not too worried. >Summit can have 100% uptime throughout your burst. Proto Punk cannot. Stun windows aren't all that long, Proto should be up for the largest portion of it. It's also up throughout the fight where Swing Jazz is not. Summit is fairly easy to activate, but there are times I'd rather focus on my other two agents or use Pulchra's ult rather than her EX.
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>>423650 here's some kino to help you through these trying times
>>423681 the banner ends in 12 days you said the new update is in 10
>>423199 Missed out on leaks these past few days, anything interesting on my girl Orphie and friends?
>>423722 I didn't meant to reply to this, brainrot was just too strong frfr
Are there any decent meme Astra combos other than the Anton one?
>>423722 Did you miss the stream too?
>>423720 Please be patient, it's getting harder to remember things right at my age. Should have said "about" 10 days.
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We still love Hoshimi Miyabi here
>>423722 Sneed is female, this time confirmed by someone with a perfect record Orpheus seems to hold a karambit knife
>>423728 Corin+Nicole is the most obvious I do find very satisfying to use Rat+Piper and swapping between them for easy assault spam
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>>423733 Her outfit is so fuckin sick.
>>423733 >hiii i'm orphie i'm such a scatterbrain xD
>>423729 Rewatching it now, thank god they toned down Shifu's effects and anniversary stuff will be great
>>423684 Iam sure she was acting hardened in the trailer because she was on duty. peoples demeanor change when they're on the job.
Need someone to draw this with Orphie
>>423758 you will probably see her toughen up for some action scenes but it's not purely about being on the job or not, that Hollow Zero Phantom Paths event is about the Defense Force arriving in its official capacity to investigate
Why can't Orpheus be cute? Trigger is cute. S11 is cute (and retarded).
>>423777 >>423747 i've just noticed that her outerwear is black in game and brown in the trailer
>>423763 I just noticed the silly beret on her and I already hate it
Should I bother levelling Panda if I'm planning on rolling Yi? I have Caesar and Astra, though Astra is mostly gonna be prioritized for Meebs and Yanagi. Just wondering if I should prefarm or not.
>>423788 panda is godlike with yi
>>423788 Depends if you're also rolling for Fufu, without her Panda is pretty much necessary. Otherwise you can just go with Astra.
>>423788 Yes. The panda is the only character that heals besides Astra and Meatbuns sifu needs heals
Skipping Shifu and Phon Linging for cute beret
>>423780 I think it's supposed to be black but in the trailer the way the light hits it makes it look browner because of it's cartoonish leatherness and the contrast of the lighting behind her. But who knows, I'm retarded.
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>>423709 >This might matter if I run into an enemy that I don't want to parry every two seconds. Given that I've yet to discover one, I'm not too worried. Assisting every two seconds is a DPS loss. Assists have their places but they have to be precise and specific. >Stun windows aren't all that long, The default stun window is 15 seconds. Proto is activated at the time of the Assist - not the follow-up. Even if you stun with the follow-up, you, at best, are left with only 9 more seconds of the buff. Quite often you will not stun with the follow-up - for those cases you're left with even less. >It's also up throughout the fight where Swing Jazz is not True, but Swing Jazz is reliably up when you need it the most, Proto is not. And Swing Jazz has a 2-piece that does something. >Summit is fairly easy to activate, but there are times I'd rather focus on my other two agents or use Pulchra's ult rather than her EX. You know what would really break your focus on your other two agents? Having to Evasive Assist to activate the disc set. You WILL have free opportunities to activate Summit, given its rather massive duration of 15 seconds because you can always just swap through your Pulchra and press EX as you're doing literally anything else. Really free opportunities to activate Proto do not really exist beyond doing Evasive Assist into immediate Ultimate cancel. But Swing is better suited for that specific thing.. You are talking about stat saturation but you don't seem to realize that you're looking for excuses for a low-uptime high-maintenance low-reliability buff for which you are paying with a loss of a 2-piece over something that is higher raw value, higher uptime, lower maintenance, AND that comes with a very good 2-piece for a VERY unsaturated stat. As a side note, one thing to look into is the activation timing of Summit. The set specifies "uses an EX Special Attack or Chain Attack" as opposed to "hits an enemy", so depending on the situation, you might be able to cancel your EX with your Ultimate and still get the effect off. It'd be amazing if canceling it before the energy is spent also works, but I'm not really too hopeful about that, as if it were me, I'd put the trigger exactly at the moment when energy is spent. But, hey, we do get i-frames on EX moves before the energy is used, so you never know.
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>>423685 Etna's sweaty pits
>>423788 He's the only unit who buffs sheer currently, you're bound to get some use of him now or later. Not to mention that Yi Xuan is likely going to be a cracked unit, your Astra will have other teams that benefit more from her for sure.
>>423814 >Assisting every two seconds is a DPS loss. That's weird, every high score clear I see parries constantly. >You know what would really break your focus on your other two agents? Having to Evasive Assist to activate the disc set. What are you talking about? Why on Earth would I need to evasive assist? I can just act normal and disk will activate on its own through the parries I routinely perform. >low-uptime high-maintenance low-reliability buff Are you kidding? Parrying once every 10 seconds is "high maintenance, low reliability?" >AND that comes with a very good 2-piece for a VERY unsaturated stat 6% impact will have zero impact on a typical clear, especially on someone like Pulchra whose daze is just a supplement to what's done by your attacker.
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I need to work on my Ellen. I stole all her discs and trashed her Polar Metal so she's using 4pc Woodpecker and 2pc BnB but it's mostly shotty left overs from getting them for everyone else.
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Did they really not tell us who the A ranks are on each banner? I NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE MY PULCHRA IS M4.
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>obol will get 2 more members >all S rank >Meanwhile Stars of Lyra is still missing the 3rd member
>see characters face for 2 seconds >have a melty about them "reworking her personality" I will never understand you faggots lmao
>>423876 They did, Pulchra is in the Onion tits banner
>>423684 Orpheus is fine, I want them to change Yuzuha. Can't put my finger on it, but something about her 3D face makes her look 20 years older than the trailer.
>>423876 >>423903 Forgot the image
>>423912 its just the smile+wink
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>>423894 Harin was the only member of Obol since launch... Besides Mockingbird and Spook Shack will be 2 member mini factions too. Stars of Lyra does have potential for another member in Monica but I'd rather get to at least Lucia's before that.
>>423913 >>423903 Damn, guess she's waiting for the next banner. I refuse to roll for either of those characters, and I have guarantee.
>>423913 >double furry banner this has to be on purpose, right?
>>423913 What's Shifu team requirement? (beside her own faction and same element)
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>>423913 Oh sweet I didn't think Pulchra would rerun that soon, maybe I'll get to M6 while pulling Shishou
furry game
>>423913 Holy value banner, my Seth and Pulchra are still stuck at M0, I might have the drive to build them if I get them and Pan Yinhu to M6.
>>423938 Stun or Support or Defender Hakush is in the rentry newcutie, just check there if you ever want the stats and kits for new characters.
>>423856 >That's weird, every high score clear I see parries constantly. We might be watching different high score clears, anon. >What are you talking about? Why on Earth would I need to evasive assist? I can just act normal and disk will activate on its own through the parries I routinely perform. Anon... Defensive Assists take even longer. I was playing devil's advocate and providing you with the best possible scenario. >Are you kidding? No, I'm very much serious >Parrying once every 10 seconds is "high maintenance, low reliability?" Yes, it's insanely high maintenance as it's literally impossible to activate it without losing damage right then and there. Scenarios where EA/DA are your best possible course of actions are very limited. And yes, it's also insanely low reliability. If you ever tried to optimize your run, you'd realize that even fitting in a Quick Assist for Astral without losing on damage can be pretty challenging, and that has a window of 15 seconds and does not rely whatsoever on what your enemy is doing (kinda). Example: You are fighting UCC. It does its laser beam attack. You can't use assists against it. Then as it's over, you shock it. Now it's disabled. As it recovers from Shock, you Impair its leg and now it's stunned. Guess how much damage did you get from Proto Punk in that scenario. If you can't understand how something that explicitly dependent on enemies doing specific actions at specific times is unreliable, I don't know what to tell you. >6% impact will have zero impact on a typical clear, especially on someone like Pulchra whose daze is just a supplement to what's done by your attacker. But that's false. 6% Impact is about a 4~5% total Daze increase on Pulchra. That's an observable increase - it would literally mean getting a stun one or two attacks sooner, even if the only thing she ever deals Daze with is her Ultimate, and that's not the only thing. And, again, your argument is moot here - you aren't gaining ANYTHING in exchange. You are claiming it doesn't matter "because... because it just doesn't okay?!" but that's just one of the many downsides of running Proto Punk.
She won
Took a break after losing 50/50 on Trigger but I kind wanna come back for Caesar rerun Any advantage to just start now? I'd imagine I can scoop up a few extra rolls before 2.0 but not super motivated if that's all there is to it.
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>>423986 Shark enjoyers wonnered
>>423988 you can catch up with the story i guess
>>423988 >Any advantage to just start now? You will have fun playing Zenless Zone Zero. That's the advantage.
>>423992 Odds they keep the 30% defense shred on Icey Blade?
>>424000 There's no way. That sounds too OP.
finally, I'm ready for the reset
>>423985 >We might be watching different high score clears, anon. I'll go through one to prove my point, but it will take time. >If you can't understand how something that explicitly dependent on enemies doing specific actions at specific times is unreliable, I don't know what to tell you. If you can't understand that every enemy in ZZZ wants you to parry, I don't know what to tell you. >it would literally mean getting a stun one or two attacks sooner WOW!!! Let's draw out a little timeline Scenario 1: 10x non-stunned attacks -> 5x stunned attacks -> 5x non-stunned attacks Scenario 2: 8x non-stunned attacks -> 5x stunned attacks -> 7x non-stunned attacks WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!
>>423986 La cameriera di tralalero tralala
>>424002 A sharkbro can dream.
>>424000 Not sure, it's the first time they're buffing someone so idk how rigorous the testing is or if that's finalized already. Wouldn't be too surprised if it went either way tbdesu.
>>423942 >Not going to get any refunds while rolling for Astra That's annoying, I hope I at least get to m6 Pulchra
is there any difference in agents' running speed in the overworld? who is the fastest?
Ugh... I know I know... I'm just skipping Astra for the second time... I'm just not going to roll for her... HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>424025 IIRC someone tested around the time when Miyabi came out and it was Miyabi > Ellen >= Rina, but Rina requires you to constantly reset her acceleration to keep that speed. dunno about agents since then
>>424016 Hopefully buffed Ellen is in the CC server so we can get numbers, I wanna know how bigly she wonnered.
>>424008 Wait real quick, regarding the parry isnt that why there are red and gold indicators? Enemies have non parryable attacks on purpose.
>>424033 my hope is that her buffs are in the next beta update and they were just holding them back so the reveal could be a surprise
>>424035 They do, yeah, but I still see parries happening regularly in pretty much every fight.
>>424031 >miyabi yeah i thought so from feel alone, but alas there is no ass to look at so i'll settle for someone else instead
>>423856 Usage of PP really depends on what team you have. Who are you running with Pulchra? If you're running Astral voice in your third unit, I do think it makes more sense to use the new set on her rather than PP just to spread things more. I don't think it's worth to go out of your way to farm it if you already have a strong PP set, but if you're farming for Yi Xuan discs you're probably getting a decent MK set anyway. >>423985 I agree that Mountain King will be a better set than PP for most stunners (not all, and also AV also exists), but your whole take on parrying being a damage loss is so incredibly retarded that I'll refrain from commenting on it any further.
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>>424047 based
i wonder whos the next unit to buff. assuming they wont touch standard units, its probably Zhu or Caesar.
I knew it
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>new characters are a big boob hag and a loli >returning characters are the biggest retard enablers in the game >rate ups are furries they're going all out holy shit
>>424058 i do wonder how would they buff other characters who dont have a hollow zero kit
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>>424061 Gotta cast that extra wide net for 2.0 and Xbox launch
>>424058 Wtf why Caesar? Crazy shield that is easy to apply, damage amp on charged atk, decent impact, groups mobs up, shield gives atk bonus
>>424058 Caesar doesn't need buffs even if her ult is absolute garbage
>>424067 The Xbox launch is probably the biggest reason, wheelchairs all around
>>424058 I'm guessing Jane, she hasn't aged very well, and she's really only holding on because of Vivian. Part of it is just there's no phys weak bosses outside of Shiyu, but even there Piper does almost as well in the same teams.
>>424082 Jane's buff: Element changed to [anything else]
>>424069 She's mediocre at DA because her personal damage feels kinda bad, which is what most content creators care about. I'm fine with Caesar staying as she currently is but I would appreciate a nice buff. Just give her a QA prompt somewhere, maybe on Ult or Chain and I'm happy.
>>424085 But assault has the highest upfront damage vs the others I think. Might also need % changes to her kit
>Artist realizes they get 10k+ likes every time they draw Wise & Belle >They start spamming it now God I love grooming artists with positive reinforcement
>>424086 Yes I can see QA addition being nice but maybe having her ult apply the damage amp and strongly group enemies up would be good to
>>424095 Sister holes belong to their brother
>>424095 Based.
>>424008 >If you can't understand that every enemy in ZZZ wants you to parry, I don't know what to tell you. Well yes, you don't know, I've noticed that already. >WOW!!! Yep. AND also higher absolute value, higher burst uptime, higher reliability, and lower activation opportunity cost. Wow indeed, glad you understand now. >Let's draw out a little timeline Is this your goofy way of trying to imply "you're only getting one stun anyway"? But that's also wrong. Timing of the stun matters - be it Deadly or Shiyu. In fact, in Shiyu your """""""""""""timeline""""""""""""" would often look like >Scenario 1: 10x non-stunned attacks -> 5x stunned attacks >Scenario 2: 8x non-stunned attacks -> 5x stunned attacks Guess which run is quicker. Being able to kill in a single stun but not needing two is actually pretty rare, most of the time it's one of the two. Guess which set is going to get a quicker second stun. In Deadly, getting a stun earlier rather than later means you can fit more of your damage into the three minutes fight. The window is 15 seconds after all, there's a huge opportunity to get a stun off but not have enough time to use it fully. Not to mention, my disingenuous friend, that one-two attacks were stated specifically about her Ultimate, which will literally give you 1-2 extra Daze (out of 100). The increase affects the entirety of her kit. >>424055 >but your whole take on parrying being a damage loss is so incredibly retarded that I'll refrain from commenting on it any further. Well you should've refrained to begin with, because you are simply wrong. I haven't had a single case of Defensive Assist improving my time and score on its own. Defensive/Evasive Assists are done to hit specific Stun timings, interact with specific mechanics, or gain Decibels. Using either outside of those specific cases is a DPS loss - I had plenty opportunities to compare. You don't take all Assist opportunities, only some of them. Evasive Assists are easier to accommodate, I had Rina's work great a couple of times, but it's still a very rare occurrence. The point is, you are switching off your DPS to get an Assist off. Switching off your DPS is a damage down. Big shock, I know.
>>424056 What's the point of doing edits like this? If they had just got ridden of the pants it would've been perfect. >>424086 Caesar is a support unit, she doesn't need to do damage. The thing that makes her not so good is the fact that her buff only works on the on-field character, and now we are getting a lot of units that want to quick swap or do stuff from off field. If they added say a lingering time to the buff after swapping, she'd become competitive again. As of now she's about the same or even worse than Lucy on a lot of teams because of the way her buff works.
what's up with the new shiyu? i swear this thing is more tanky than 12/12 ether activity gepetto
>>424120 You have to impair it bro, it's like the armored hati.
Before the thread ends I just want to ask when is Miyabi rerun
>>424120 >DPS QIngyi Based. But speaking of Defensive Assists - use them, lmao.
They should buff Corin next instead of another S rank
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>>423451 >Got lighters Engine on first pull. I cant believe it
>>424118 >higher absolute value (zero) >higher burst uptime (only in rare edge cases) >higher reliability (not) >lower activation opportunity cost (not) >Guess which run is quicker. The one where your buff is active for the whole fight (Proto Punk) instead of a short window (Swing Jazz)
>>424127 I'm afraid of what Cornzone would unleash upon us if they buffed Corin.
>>424127 I bet she will be buffed very soon. Her new kit is already in Hollow Zero.
>>424125 since a 1.5 character is already rerunning, and the mibibi shrine maiden skin is MIA, I think her rerun and her skin will both be on 2.1. it would also be a good way to keep some momentum from 2.0
>>424120 read nigga read
>>423684 I thought she was TEH REI but looks like a moeblob now
>>424120 I love that no one reads this guy's kit and just complains
>>424159 on one hand i think it's good if they're trying to mainly make the game more challenging through boss mechanics rather than JUST increasing HP. on the other hand, the average gacha player is illiterate so they need the literal pop-ups that tell you how to beat the boss like in HSR if they want to actually have real mechanics
>>424153 >read I CAN'T READ I CAN'T READ I CAN'T READ
>>424138 >dropping Miyabi and her skin and probably Yanagi in the middle of a filler patch with a physbrick I will be the only Alicehaver in the world. And that's a good thing!
>>424159 I'm not surprised in the slightest, his story mode fight is literally solo vs vivian. It took about 5 weeks for you to become physically able to do his gimmick
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>>424153 It's insanely funny to me how fast people get filtered when they stick mechanics behind reading
>>424127 might happen because the only S rank who fell off was ellen.
>>423990 >>423993 >>423998 So no unique ongoing event rewards right now or anything? Have people figured out how many F2P rolls are in 2.0? I wonder if I can grab both Yixuan and Caesar since I'm sitting on a gurarantee
>>423912 >>423921 nah its the makeup makeup never looks good on 3d models, and the trailer didnt even have all that
>>424182 around 168 if f2p at least 200 if you have that membership thing
>>424192 200? Source?
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>>424173 You underestimate her popularity, people like Alice now.
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>>424195 We're eating good
>>424195 someone already posted it >>424200
>>424133 >(zero) 30% CRIT DMG is objectively higher absolute value that 15% DMG >(only in rare edge cases) It's literally impossible for Proto Punk to have the same uptime during the burst as Summit. Yes, even against enemies with shorter stun windows. >(not) Using something proactively is objectively more reliable than using something reactively >(not) One requires you to spend several seconds on an agent and one does not. It's impressive how you are objectively and observably wrong in all cases. >The one where your buff is active for the whole fight (Proto Punk) instead of a short window (Swing Jazz) Swing Jazz vs Proto is more situational. Though, if you were talking about it specifically then you are still objectively wrong, because there's the dreaded 2-piece that does something vs literally nothing. But I agree that the absolute value is the same - 15% DMG either way. You are being silly and ignorant if you think you can guesstimate it by feel - specifically landing 12 seconds of uptime into the burst window is can easily outperform anywhere from 9 to 0 seconds you will get from Proto during it, even if you'll get much higher uptime outside of the stun.
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>>424120 >use astnicoyabi >didn't notice any difference from any other elite >it just fucking melted
>>424200 >>424192 Pretty good but not crazy, maybe I should start now and get what rolls I can so i can get the white haired bitch + Caesar both
>>424177 >give tutorials for extremely simple puzzles >hides important combat information and doesn't explain it when you first encounter a boss Thanks I guess. I wouldn't have known to even look for that if people didn't mention it on this thread.
>>423986 >>423992 >>424010 I will now surrender my virginity to Ellen 'Sharknado' Joe
>>424228 i feel like tepes is such a strange case because your first encounter is with solo vivian in the 1.7 story
>>424230 Emotionless sex with Ellen Joe
>>424207 >30% CRIT DMG is objectively higher absolute value that 15% DMG It isn't, as we already covered it depends on saturation. This does vary by case, but in most cases crit dmg is more saturated. >It's literally impossible for Proto Punk to have the same uptime during the burst as Summit Ah that's a different parsing of your sentence (alternative being how much stun uptime you have, which as I said only applies to edge cases). It's true that swing jazz (or the new set) is active for more of the stun, I've agreed with that since the beginning. >Using something proactively is objectively more reliable than using something reactively That's a nice rule of thumb, but it's wrong when over-applied. If you aren't parrying regularly on a normal team, you're doing something wrong. >One requires you to spend several seconds on an agent and one does not. Oh, how are you using EX specials without switching agents? >It's impressive how you are objectively and observably wrong in all cases. That's my line. >Though, if you were talking about it specifically then you are still objectively wrong, because there's the dreaded 2-piece that does something vs literally nothing. It does something immaterial, as we've discussed.
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>>424159 >Ellen has a unique animation for when she's nodding off Holy kino.
New thread when doko
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>>424243 JK's... scary..
>>423263 >Anton is happy being retarded and naive I don't think he's retarded nor naive, I think he's just traumatized I hope they expand on his story some day tbh
>>424250 I ate it.
It's not amazing but a Neko/Pulchra/Lucy team is a 'It Just Works' team. Good damage, decent Assauly buildup, and an M6 Lucy is borderline S-Rank. I wish we had a Physical Support Agent though so I can build a full Phys team with her. Running a second Attacker is redundant and running Piper just doesn't have a good rotation.
>>423247 bro is clownin' >>423263 dante is also a total clown
>>424272 Caesar
>>424272 I'm assuming you don't have Caesar, and if you don't, I don't think she's worth pulling.
>>424228 >>424234 Tepes is particularly funny because of its ice weakness, if you just bring Miyabi she's really likely to stagger it too hard to drop the damage barrier
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I just unlocked the demon lord medals why does it say 0/2? Do I really need to reclear from 41 to get the first one?
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>mfw I almost certainly won't have the twiggy icon next bread
>>424242 When does Crit Damage start become oversaturated? I had my Miyabi at 152% Crit Damage, but when switching it to ATK% I ended up doing more damaged faster to Bringer. This is despite having crit rate at basically 100% in both cases after her skills and disc activate in battle and all.
>>424291 it's showing how much you have and how many are available. it's never possible to have a fraction like 10/10 because it always counts the newest stage you have unlocked but haven't beaten. to get the missing one and get your number up to 1/2, scroll all the way down. you might have to beat level 60 or something before scrolling all the way down
>>424267 Can you spit it back up? We needed that thread.
>>424296 Just roll Twiggy again bwo
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>>424303 Do you mean this one? I saw someone on reddit had 951/950 so I imagine this is the bonus one
>>424306 hmm, nyo
>>424239 Milking every last drop from my balls while staring at me with her cold red eyes..
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GAOOO
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>>424322 I need my sperm to fill up her young pussy.
>>424242 >It isn't, as we already covered it depends on saturation. This does vary by case, but in most cases crit dmg is more saturated. It literally is. I'm specifically stating "absolute value". The absolute value of 30% CRIT DMG is higher than that of 15% DMG. There aren't any "no"s and "but"s. 30% CRIT DMG is just objectively more value than 15% DMG because of how game distributes stats. Whether or not it's better for a specific squad is a separate conversation, but the absolute value of Mountain King is higher. >That's a nice rule of thumb, but it's wrong when over-applied. Provide a singular example of it being wrong. For example, you can use how is it wrong in this example >>423985 >You are fighting UCC. >It does its laser beam attack. You can't use assists against it. >Then as it's over, you shock it. Now it's disabled. >As it recovers from Shock, you Impair its leg and now it's stunned. >Guess how much damage did you get from Proto Punk in that scenario. Go ahead. >Oh, how are you using EX specials without switching agents? How very nice of you to ignore the "several seconds" qualifier. But I'll explain. I would enqueue an attack with my on-field DPS, switch to my support, and press EX. If the EX stuns, I've spent precisely ZERO seconds not dealing damage with my DPS. The same can be done between DPS Chain Attacks if they are good enough to be used. If the EX doesn't stun, there are further options. If EX provides a Quick Assist, I've either yet again spent ZERO seconds not dealing damage with my DPS, or I spent a fraction of a second, if there's a considerable delay between the ex and the Quick Assist. Finally, if there no Quick Assist on EX, there should be a Quick Assist on your third agent. So I would swap to that agent as soon as I press EX, and use their Quick Assist to return back to my DPS spending, again, ZERO seconds not dealing damage. Additionally, I might have other reasons to switch off my DPS, for example the Defensive Assists you love so much. If I used Defensive Assist in one direction because I needed to do that, I've already swapped off my DPS, so I might as well just press EX before swapping back in. >That's my line. Is it now? >It does something immaterial, as we've discussed. Ah, so "it doesn't matter... BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T, OKAY?!" was you discussing things. Duly noted.
>>424082 The only reason she "hasn't aged well" is because there is no phys content. I used her when Hugo was there and she worked wonders, I use her on anomaly shilling Pompey and she works too. Only buff I'd do is give her more lax team passive requirements.
>>424302 It will depend on your team/stage/discs buffs. https://zzz-calculator.vercel.app/
>>424281 >>424284 I do not, no. As nice as her ability is I don't really feel like I need it unless I decide to finish the Tower. If Jufufu wasn't also a Stunner I'd use her when she drops so I can have the all kot team.
>>424302 Did you factor in Shiyu/DA buffs?
>>424334 She's fun with her Catalysts in Lost Void. Sometimes I run her with Burnice and Lucy for a Disorder team.
>>424330 YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!
>>424302 Miyabi with her W-Engine and BnB has 90% additional CRIT DMG%. 50% from the W-Engine. 30% from BnB 10% from Freeze
>>424302 A simplified damage formula is: Final=Base*%DMG*(1+CRT*CRDmg) So in shorter variable notation... F=B*D(1+C*M) The partial derivative of F with respect to D is B+BCM The partial derivative of F with respect to M is BDC Therefore you'll get more damage from DMG% when B+BCM>BDC Or in other words when Base + Base*Crit*CritDmg > Base*Dmg%*Crit
>>424343 I did not actually, but I have notice the buffs. However, when it is bringer I use Miyabi Lycaon Soukaku, so I use the generalist buff that doesn't really raise crit damage.
>>424327 >over a minute it's so over


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