Cipher sex

Is Herta still worth it? I'm at 30 pity rn

>>421990 Saber and Phainon seem to have a lot of attacks that bounce or prefer having two or just one enemy on the field so we're going to see a single target meta in the future. If you're struggling with pure fiction or you just want to forget that endgame entirely on pull for her she's worth it and she's easy to build for a f2p account. But remember to go with whoever you like, all you need is two strong teams that can carry you for 80% of the game considering bosses with certain advantages are always there.

>>421981 kot rabu

>>422012 gonna build some more pity on her banner then if no spook then phainon it is

>want Hyacine for buffed Jingliu >want Cipher for Acheron Fuck, I still can't decide. Maybe I should just empty my stash since I'll be skipping Phainon and Saber anyway.

>>422082 Save for E2 SW

>>422088 I do have SW and her E1 that I got early. Hoping that they'll eventually add her to the shop since I didn't use my token last patch.

Btw guys, I've recently got navia in the other game and she made me realize how hsr devs were smart enough to hide the crit rng masterfully, instead of attacks being a one hit they are divided into smaller ones with each one of them carrying its own crit chance so bad crit ratio builds can still seem to be functional. For example my navia right now has 73/175 without her sig and it feels like I'm not criting most of the time While my Acheron for example has 65/192 in battle but I don't feel the lack of crit rate because of how DMG is counted. This is honestly a pretty creative way to handle rng.

>>422109 there are characters that have their damage spread across a lot of attacks in other game, but yeah non crits are painful

>>421990 if you have problems in pure fiction she is well worth it but moc will probably shift away from 5 target cleave now

Hyacine LOVE

What are your hope/wishes, personality & design wise, for March 8th and her memopsrite?

>>422151 I want her to literaly throw pompom at the ennemies

Love Cipher

can't believe i'm saying this but i miss banjo lowfoo

>>422151 I want her to be evil, ruthless and sadistic yet keep her genkiness. She can deploy a black tainted ice hell as territory where her enemies continously lose health each turn, filling up a freeze meter. Her skill and ults fill up that freeze meter, once it's full, enemies actually freeze and take increased damage just as in SU Fuli's ult does. Her memosprite is a moth pupa, once March froze at least 3 enemies it becomes an evil mothra. When evil mothra takes turns it cleanses enemy buffs while dishing out massive ice damage and instantly freezing mobs.

>>422151 i want her to be cute and confident

Cuterice

I feel like these things have been rigged since the Amphoreus update...

>>422603 lygos rigged them to be shit when you use herta in your team i heard

If you guys were interested in Phainon I think you should know the following: 1/ his ult state at e0s1 takes 157 av to ends. uve probably heard complaints regarding this a million times over already, so i need not elaborate further. its very bad and gets even worse without sig. instead of making the player wait til the countdown end, i think his ult should end as soon as u finish his final extra turn in ult 2/ stats balancing problems. due to how his ult works, he needs hypercarry supports to charge him up quickly, and since all the currently available and good supports for phainon all provide the same stat buffs as his own self buff (the bajillion atk%, CRIT and DMG%), his dmg output doesnt get increased as much compared to using someone like tribbie or debuffers - supports that provides rare damage amp stats 3/ skill points issue. like this holy motherfucking of an SP blackhole. His team consumes SO MANY SP just to quickly charge him up that without multiple sources of extra SP, the team will just fall apart after he ends his first ult. theres a reason why i have to use 2 sunday sigs + a passenger set in the clear. the sp economy is really bad 4/ high total damage multipliers, but get significantly punished in aoe because of one thing: his high damage abilities are all bounce attack type or something similar His enhanced skill that does up to 1170% atk as damage? well its split into multiple bounce attacks that deal 45% atk each for each bounce so in aoe the damage plummets hard. the 450% atk nuke at the end of his enhanced skill? that 450 get divided evenly between the number of enemies, so in aoe its damage is also significantly reduced. His finishing ult attack as well as counter attack has the same problem as enhanced skill. all in all, i think everyone know how shit bounce attacks can be in this game, its already happened before. 5/ stacks generation. im personally okay with how they handle the ult charges, its thematic that he has 12 charges representing 12 coreflames, but regarding his enhanced skill charges, i think they need to do something about it. he has 7 total extra turns in ult, disregarding the first free enhanced skill, it still takes him 2 turns out of the remaining 6 turns doing enhanced basics just to charge his next big nuke. the counter attack can charge faster but is dependent on enemies. if the enhanced basic and/or counter attack actually deals enough to compensate for the downtime between his enhanced skill, then itd be fine. But right now they dont do enough, so phainon's dmg is extremely backloaded, and backloaded dmg in turn based game feels very shit.

>>422622 >sp blackhole at E0 >Falls apart if he cant clear in 1 ult cycle >extremely overpowered e2 wait i minute i have seen this movie before in all honesty i think they try to balance him only to be overpowered in moc and give him a very strong turbolence for his shill moc because afterwards he will probably need cerydra to perform on an comfy level

>>422647 Time is truly a flat circle, can't wait for fexiao and hoolay 2.0 in 3.5

>>422660 well atleast he doesnt have to break the thoughness bars that are getting bigger with every patch to do dmg and can use almost all supports and is not restricted to the small break support pool. But i think his biggest upside is protecting his team during his ultimate wich makes sustainless very easy the problem is when mihoyo expects people to run him sustainless

>>422622 really sad if it's true and I hope it's just a marketing stunt where they gonna pretend they listen to people by buffing him up. I really like his animations and I'd hate them to be a dud

Firefly love

what now

>>422740 >he redeemed 3 times

>>422622 I didn't read his kit at all, I had no idea he has bounce attacks. lmao Honestly from the little showcases I've watched I feel like they should nerf his survivability to an extend and buff his DPAV in some manner, just going be feeling cause I have no idea what his eidolons actually do. Though it might be a bit hypocritical coming from me since a Rice team with Hyacine is also virtually unkillable with the mechanics currently in the game...

>>422747 I'm a betting man

>>422622 Told y'all there has to be a catch to him. It doesn't look as dire as Fraudfly in terms of teammates, but by 4.0 he WILL need E2S1 to have enough actions in ult and Cerydra and/or Sunday to have enough skill points out of ult. Thank fucking God Saber seems to be spared from the usual Brickstruction design, her eidolons are mostly just "more damage", outside of 10 energy per turn at E1 and a ton of energy every 4 ults at E6

>>422802 Yeah, the current beta MOC blessing is outrageously shilling for him and skill spammers including archer unfortunately but nonetheless, he has it worse than fire fly after your first burst ends, fire fly teammates can do something while they have super break and they aren't sp hungry as Phainon's, if you're not getting his sig and probably his E1 too, sparkle might actually be a fixed support in your teams. From what I've seen in other socials people are mostly angry because of his animations creep which makes other units mostly Castroice to look tame so they assume BIG EDGY BOY IS THE STRONGEST CHARACTER RIGHT NOW. For me personally, I'm conflicted, I love my characters to be simple but rewarding when you know what to do unfortunately, Phainon is the former but you can't really get more of him without swiping.

>>422873 really the worst fate of them all having to use sparkle

Forgot to mention, sunday's light con became the best harmony LC right after DDD because of everyone in 3.4.

Rejoice Sunday pullers.

>>422907 Speaking of Sunday's cone >still not a single Redman showcase using Sunday in place of Sparkle, let alone any non-limited support

>>422938 >nearly no showcases of saber without sunday >0 showcases that show if cipher maybe is good with the fate collab units yeah showcases are really lacking right now

Cipher JP voice is pure sex

>Always wanted to make a mono Quantum team >Archer is free, Sparkle rerun right afterwards, have Fu Xuan from a lost 50/50 >Would have to pull Cipher, I do like her but I'm 0 pity and under 1000 jades Is this team a meme or would it work?

>>423144 isnt redman wind?

>>423159 No he's Quantum. Silver Wolf might be a good support after buffs so ideally the team would be Archer/SW/Sparkle then Sustain or a new support.

>>422972 i agree

>>423144 Sparkle is Redman's best teammate, Fu wouldn't be bad outside of not generating as much SP as Sigga or Gallagher, the third slot can be any of the quantum sub-DPS with buffed SW being the best option according to HoS

>>423174 >>423203 I'd rather pull SW because that gives me a lot more breathing room to recoup jades, but isn't she more SP hungry than Cipher?

>>422151 I just hope they don't make her some kind of joke character and treat her seriously, she deserves it.

>>423295 Yeah but Sparkle solves SP issues

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ-rcBeFKVw

>>423358 Who would win, an emanator of destruction throwing literal meteors at enemies or a grown-up puppy?

>>423412 Puppy says good night

It looks like hyacine is screwing a lightbulb here but got shocked cause someone turned to breaker back on.

>>422802 https://youtu.be/wnF03mRtMYI?si=cCCca4KzCoDlUBpz >E2 Silvie bug is stackable D..did I just win something? Holy twist I gave up on my Acheron e0s0 just last patch and you're telling me she's back?

>>423660 wait do we just ignore acheron's stupid 2 extra nihility requirement and just go full on tribbie+hyacine to buff her? E2 SW still seems a pretty big investment but that seems more valuable than E2 acheron at the moment.

>>423721 Or run Cipher and Hyacine and don't miss out on the trace buff. Don't even need Cipher's sig with E2 SW (although that is already solved with the new BP LC)

>>423721 With enough buffs from your harmony Robin/tribbie, Acheron can do without a second nihility, in pf I use Robin sometimes with her, but in my case I started playing during silver wolf banner, I wasn't even planning to stick around so I just kept throwing my pulls at her banner hoping I lose and get either welt or hemiko, I got the first one early and the other two were from single pulls during belobog story because I needed serval eidelons considering early game really wants you to have aoe attacks. I think I got her to E2 around 45 pulls.

Hyacine makes everyone invincible in this mode fucking insane

>>423764 tell me what you're running with and which buffs are you going for? Last X6 run i did with my team took literally an hour to finish as we slowly plink away against the bosses or that stage where they want you to farm for 450 coins.

>>423721 I was running E1 Acheron with Pela and Welt before Tribbie dropped, needless to say the party became functional once I dropped the jobber. You do not need the second Nihility at all if the Harmony you are swapping them with is better in every way.

>>423784 metaslave team castorice haycine tribbie rmc everyone e0 blessings actually dont matter i even did a run with anaxa phainon hyacine boon but mydei castorice blessing are bis also only focus on remeberance propagation and destruction blessings with some hunt and eurudition since those have great equations

>>423798 ok, i'll try that and hope it does more dmg so it doesnt take an hour for a single run.

>>423784 With Rice+Hyacine? Brain in a vat for more dragons (and that one 3-star equation that lets you ult 4 times in a row), blazar blessings, propagation blessings for butterfly soul (works on her ESkill but more importantly on the bounce), forced jump (for more breaths), anything with speed (for Hyacine), healing blessings and remembrance blessings are all good. Reroll for Cas/March boons.

>>423810 i didnt say it doesnt take an hour lol

>>423829 fml, I saw some videos in SU/DU where they did a shit ton of damage and was much faster, but I assume maybe they got one of those 16 pure path buffs.

>>423846 A lot of that is curio RNG desu, you can get some disgusting numbers if you're lucky and can get some of the 3-star ones rolling early in the run >>423850 HOLY CUTE!!!!!!

>want sunday since it means i can use dragon dan and give my e1 aglaea something isnt just coping with RMC >cant get his cone but so i'll either have to cope with bronya cone (if i ever manage to get it) or keep him glued to aggy because she doesnt use SP >kinda considering tribbie for general stuff and it means i can use seele plus whatever else but wont be able to get e1 fuck

>>423887 You know what to do.

>>423887 Remember Star Rail wants to sell you teams so try to focus on a team or two instead of rolling bits and pieces because it's better to have 1-2 very strong teams than 4 half-assed mediocre teams.

>>423899 good point... i'll just get sunday since i already have e1 aggy, e1s1 robin + F*f* then

>>423899 i realised that the hard way with aglaea i only rolled for her design but she is so weak for my account since i dont have sunday was thinking i could cope with bronya since i have huohuo and robin lmao

>>423932 >huohuo My biggest skipping regret, god damn it Tail, I apologize for skipping you, please go to the shop I need you.

>>423941 mine is sunday skipping a harmony is probably the most retarded thing you can do in this game but at this point i am to stubbhorn to roll him even tho every team needs him

>>423952 Eh, it's not a huge loss if you have everyone else (Tribbie especially). You can still full star endgame modes all the same.

>>423952 My trust in harmony and Hunt characters were shuttered because of selee and sparkle but I got vindicated over the latter. My only sustains are Gallagher and Aventurine so I'm kinda struggling with the healers shilling lately. Also every future character I'm interested in will love to have the energy and atk buff from huohuo. Sunday's rumored to get a rerun, may you be lucky to get him and whoever else you want.

>>423952 i have a benched sparkle that haven't seen any gameplay since I got firefly. And by getting E2 firefly I was forced to save through robin and sunday. Now I'm just coping with myself and hoping the new dps that I want don't need one or both of them. Unfortunate for me, Saber seems to want the pigeon twins.

>>423932 Yeah, I learned it the hard way too. I rolled a bunch of random meta characters in penacony without taking into account team synergy and now my only truly complete team is my castorice team while everything else is copium. At least I've been actively fixing my account and teams now in Amphoreus but yeah, it's really important to have in mind what teams you want to make and ROLL THEIR SUPPORTS. >>423952 I refuse to roll for Menday and Castorice doesn't need him so I've been pretty happy about that. I'll just wait for the next team that doesn't use Sunday and rock that.3 Alternatively, I guess I could force Castorice to go back to Luocha/Gallagher and force Hyacine DPS if I get really desperate and don't have anyone else I like or want for 2nd side.

>>423974 Sunday is borderline necessary but you can cope with tingyun or tribbie if you have huohuo.

>>423932 Aglaea is just a special case, idk why they designed her like that, even in trials that are usually supposed to show you teams at full power and make you want to roll she feels awkward to keep in ult state even with Sunday. She's not the only character who's borderline disfunctional without a specific support but she feels like the most severe offender

>>423981 yeah i have huohuo + tribbie for her, not really sure whats the last member, but it could be my other benched SW. I would love to see both SW and sparkle gets pulled out of their retirement homes. Even though they're both at E0 at the moment.

>>423981 i have seen a saber e0s1 0 cycle clear with bronya tribbie he doesnt seem that mandatory for her

>>423952 Fuck Sunday, I'm gonna make Saber work without him one way or another

>>423995 I shouldn't have said borderline necessary but more of a great if you have him considering he does more than one thing. Realistically speaking you can go full sustainless with Saber, tingyun, tribbie and RMC and you can get better results others you can use bronya or whoever you like considering Saber is really straightforward and simple so you can't go wrong with her.

>>423978 Not planning to get dps nano?

>>424018 I want to see her model first and her supports. If she's a sunday slave or is designed in a way that she needs dan in her team then maybe not.

>>423982 they probably really were going to have him work for all DPS remembrance but realize no one wanted that and probably changed their minds. thats quite literally the only way you can reason this that or the fact they notoriously like to fuck over phase 2 characters in general plus herta being popular and phase

>>423784 Is this still doable if I don't have Tribbie? I have S1 Rice and E0 Hyacine. Her relics are kinda shit but they're maxxed with the right main stat at least.

>phainon team uses sunday, sparkle and yukong at least the hsrdevs are trying to reverse powercreep, better late than never.

>>424147 The powercreep thing is just dumb content creators being stupid honestly. Between the gacha update to choose who you lose your pity to, the new shop where you can exchange for limited five-star characters and now old chara buffs, I feel like Star Rail is in the best position right now out of the three hoyo games.

>>424147 >Yukong Does she actually get some use or is it something super niche that nobody in their right mind would use

>>424163 Yukong has crazy buffs but they only last 1 turn. Coincidentally, Phainon freezes all buffs when he turns into Lucilius from granblue fantasy so she could actually see some use and be a viable budget alternative.

>>424162 i was also kinda dooming regarding powercreep but that was when acheron released, since her there werent any crazy dmg jumps exspecially in 3.x

>>424147 >Phainon can use Yukong >Saber can use Ting >Redman can use Hanya Now if only showcase fags bothered testing any of that instead of showing the class Seiba works with HSR and Redman with Sparkle again

>>424193 >Now if only showcase fags bothered testing any of that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-GUF4LXNp0

What are the possible f2p light cons for the upcoming 3.4 characters? And which one of them gain the most from their sig?

>>424162 >dumb content creators being stupid And greedy. Jokes aside, I agree the doomposting about powercreep is overblown, the 50/50 changes and retirement shop were great additions and the buffs aside from JL are looking solid. >I feel like Star Rail is in the best position right now out of the three hoyo games. I'd argue ZZZ still has it beat with how endgame is balanced currently, where you don't need any specific teammates or sigs to clear to the point where people are beating stuff with solo A-ranks (4*) and optimisation autism/whale dick measuring is done through the AS equivalent showing the percentile your score falls into. Building disc loadouts is also by far better than relic mines.

>>424219 >What are the possible f2p light cons for the upcoming 3.4 characters? Redman should work with Cruising, the new BP cone, any limited 5* cone you may have should work too. Seiba should work will Fall of an Aeon, the new BP cone, probably Aeon will be the best option because most others are bad, related to HP manip or otherwise cockblocked to gimmicks. Same goes for Phainon I guess but he really wants his sig because it raises base speed and he needs it in ult state. But if you do roll his sig looks like Saber, or any other Destruction without gimmicks, can use it too.

>>424252 >I'd argue ZZZ still has it beat with how endgame is balanced currently, I don't like ZZZ, personally. I feel like it suffers from the same disease as Wuthering Waves where the characters I want to play are either just straight up bad or supports with every must have character being an adult female or adult male. I feel like HSR has a lot more character variety where there's a viable team for whatever you like. Acheron or Aglaea for those who like them adult, Firefly or Castorice for those who like them younger and characters like Hyacine, Tribbie or Yunli for those who like loli. The downside to HSR is that HSR wants to sell you teams instead of one size fits all supports so you have to roll for a characters full team instead of picking up bits and pieces from various teams and end up with incomplete teams all around. For Relics, I feel like they got a ton better after the relic QoL we got. Used to be bad but they made some pretty sweet changes and now we have dice and wishful resin which makes getting certain pieces a lot easier too.

>>424162 I don't play Genshin and ZZZ so I'm not clued in on what's going on in those games, but the new shop kinda just feels like whalebait for whales to get dice. Realistically 99% of players (yeah I made up the number) aren't going to get anyone to E6, even from the standard banner, so they're at the mercy of hoyo feeling like giving out one currency thing. Personally I'm holding onto my 2 ones for the possibility of them adding in sexo I have missed/haven't rolled for like SW and Yunli, just novelty dickpicks. I'm hoping they're going to be more generous with giving out the currency and that it wasn't a one time only thing/anniversary thing but eh we'll see. >>424077 Yeah just use RM

>>424408 >Yeah just use RM Cool. That's what I've been doing. Good to know it works in this context too.

>>424354 Wuwa does suffer a lot from BiS team oriented design, but it's also tuned to where you can mix and match to some extent, like you don't need Zhezhi specifically for Carlotta, any skill buffer works or you can run quickswap with Changli. In ZZZ I don't feel like it's a thing at all, obviously some agents synergise like Zhu and Qingyi or Miyabi and Yanagi or Astra and Eve or Sanby and Trigger, but all of them have good alternative teams. If you want to hagmaxx run mono-electric Yanagi Trigger Rina, if you like lolis run Piper Jufufu Lucy, if you like men run monogay Hugo Lycaon Lighter. No need to bite your nails over meta like if you run Acheron with no Jamiroquai or Aglaea with no Sunday. >For Relics, I feel like they got a ton better after the relic QoL we got. Used to be bad but they made some pretty sweet changes and now we have dice and wishful resin which makes getting certain pieces a lot easier too. The QoL is nice, in a vacuum even better than ZZZ because of wishful resin and reroll cubes, but the rigged stats and scarcity of relic remains ruin everything. In ZZZ I barely even touch disc mines, only during 2x events and when I need to spend weekly sweep tickets, almost all of my discs are crafted and I have great crit sets on most of my attackers and decent anomaly sets on my anomaly agents, meanwhile in HSR it can takes weeks just to get a piece with the right main stat which will then roll into trash substats 9 times out of 10. On top of that there's little to no retarded break points that are mandatory to have your team functioning at a baseline

>>424408 Yeah it's definitely a whale shop but the important point of it is that we got one golden thingy for free and they confirmed that we're going to get more in the future along with them updating and adding to the store. Probably future important milestones or anniversaries too and the currency does not expire so you can hold onto it until they add something worth your while and grab it. Right now, a free Ruan Mei is huge for a ton of players or E1 Ruan Mei which is also pretty good. Though personally, I decided to save my points and just wait until they add something I want or need to the shop.

>>424467 > If you want to hagmaxx run mono-electric Yanagi Trigger Rina, if you like lolis run Piper Jufufu Lucy, if you like men run monogay Hugo Lycaon Lighter. No need to bite your nails over meta like if you run Acheron with no Jamiroquai or Aglaea with no Sunday. There's an abyss of difference between Yanagi/Trigger/Rina and Piper/Jufufu/Lucy though. It's like comparing Castorice/Hyacine/Tribbie to Kafka/Black Swan/Natasha. And therein lies the problem. I feel like HSR has a lot more variety where you can run what you like or want where there's meta characters for every step of the spectrum and can feel like you're being pandered to without having to feel like a third world peasant running sub-optimal non-meta stuff while everyone else celebrates their meta characters that pander to them. For Acheron, the Jamiroquai problem can be solved by getting her E2 I feel like and if Silver Wolf doesn't get gutted then she might be another great choice too. A friend I know loves Acheron and 0-cycles everything with her but he doesn't even use any Nihility at all to do so while another guy despises the idea of Tribbie existing but still 0-cycles shit and puts more damage than 99% of the current population using Hyacine DPS. Aglaea is kinda boned since they designed her to be reliant on Sunday for some reason but can cope for a future character to solve this issue I guess. Basically, the tl;dr is man I wish these games had more variety so I don't have to feel like a beggar waiting for scraps. >but the rigged stats and scarcity of relic remains ruin everything. My routine is just shut off my brain and spam relic domains. Once per patch or whenever I can be bothered, I'll go through all the relics I farmed and level them up since I seem to have infinite relic fodder after the update that gave you refunds for salvaging leveled pieces and usually I can get a very nice piece for someone or a few good pieces. I'm also a bit of a hoarder so I rarely use my dice or resins because I'm saving them for whenever I need them and that "whenever I need them" rarely comes since I'll likely put together a full set from autobattling relic caverns during dead weeks or downtime. I do agree ZZZ's disc system is better since no substat variance means you can get great pieces a lot more easily but HSR's relic system deserves some credit too since it went from absolutely awful to a lot nicer from 1.x to 3.x.

>>424571 >Basically, the tl;dr is man I wish these games had more variety so I don't have to feel like a beggar waiting for scraps. That can be said about both games though. ZZZ isn't even a year old yet and imo so far it's been doing a pretty good job at releasing agents with intersecting niches so that you aren't pigeonholed into specific comps. HSR is on its third year and while you can pick and choose with some teams (i.e. "all cute" team for Castorice, "waifu" break teams, Yaoqing or IPC teams for lore), there is a lot of niche archetypes or DPS with gimmicks that have very limited options. For all its flaws Genshin is still not beat in team variety, reactions are the cornerstone of the whole combat system and barring a few exceptions you have multiple sidegrades for almost any slot, including both 4* and 5* characters.

>>423952 >skipped robin, RM, sparkle and sunday i am a redart

Why are there no showcases of anyone in 3.4 using Cipher as a teammate? I'd imagine she's not terrible with them

>>424711 at least you invested in Tribbiecoin

>>424821 haha yeah i surely didn't forget to mention her haha

>>424450 Sorry Cyrene, but I've been death gripped by Mem's tight hole...

>>423144 Isn't the core of monoquantum to run SW to apply quantum weakness to every enemy?

They should get the guy who does the trailer cinematography for the story + storyboard. I don't mind the over the shoulder camera and the limited poses during dialogue but some moments need to be captured better. For example, Aglaea getting cornered in the baths. It should have shown her getting stabbed and then falling onto the pool getting mixed with her golden blood. That moment should have been poignant. The story is supposed to have all these sacrifices and goodbyes but they don't feel as impactful as they should be. I guess that's my only real gripe about it.

>>425202 well they 100% weren't going to show aglaea faceplanting into concrete that's for sure when the game is rated at 12+, nevermind the fact that showing women dying is generally perceived as of bad taste. trailer team is pretty good but i have a feeling they don't really interface with the bulk of the story team as much as they should. more like they're just subordinate to pumping out trailers. interim solution they should do more of those evocative pictures to frame a poignant scenes at least.

>>425410 Face planting isn't what I really had in mind. She can either fall into some deep baths or just kind of slump in upper baths. I was imagining something more like this. Her death could still be done beautifully. Besides they already showed Tinyun's neck snapping early on in the game and I didn't think the playerbase saw it as bad taste.

>>425466 yeah i agree it could be better presented. honestly i think they should probably scale back the overall scope of the next production and spend more time on presenting the experience better even if it meant the overall length is shorter

>>425482 I honestly hope they keep the length. The problem I think is that they have too many characters to focus on.

>>425523 >>425482 They did show Aglaea's death though It's the bracelet floating in the gold lava. "You will have your final bath in gold."

AIEEE, I HAVEN'T PLAYED THE PATCH YET, I HAVE EXAMS

>>425553 It's peak but it's pretty long

>>425546 kek, i guess i still think they could've milked more emotions from the bath scene tho

>>425565 I think the only one that was truly offscreened was Tribbie. Everyone else dies on screen, I guess they thought it would be too much to show a literal child dying brutally like that?

>>425573 with FTC getting uppity and looking for reasons they probably don't wanna get too creative these days

>>425546 Well, her soul/consciousness was already gone when she got turned into a bracelet. I don't know if I count last vestiges of divinity is actually "her". In any case though they could have framed her "first/fakeout death" lying in the golden baths as the prophecy but then hit you later with the lava scene without the narration as an "ooooh" moment.

>>425573 In one of the memory nodes, it says that Hyacine had to walk into a mural of lava to merge with Aquila. That would have been cool to show too. I was under the impression that Hyacine returning the coreflame and taking up the divinity was a harmless affair, but walking into lava is pretty hardcore.

>>425523 >too many characters It wouldn't be as much of an issue if they didn't give most of them temporary deaths for drama and instead allowed them to be actively involved for the full runtime of the plot. Hysilens and Cerydra really don't need to exist either.

>>425677 It's just a rehash of Elysian Realm but better, really. Featuring both Kevin Kaslana and the Herrscher of Ego. I played the original flamechasing journey so I already had a general idea of what Shaoji is doing or where he's going to go with it but I don't know how he plans to wrap it up since ER's situation is different from Amphoreus situation. And I don't think players would be satisfied if it ended the same was as Elysian Realm did, me included.

I feel like Cinny would be busted in PF, can anyone attest to that?

>>425677 >allowed them to be actively involved for the full runtime The only way I see that happening is if each chrysos heir is a full blown POV that spans 4 patches and occasionally intersects with each other and they all collect the flames nearly the same time.

So how long is this updates story? Been playing for a few hours and started the sky fortress

>>425849 It's pretty long but it's pretty good. Shit starts getting really good near the end though and you'll know when you get there.

>>425849 maybe like 5-7 hours? second half/near the end gets pretty good. the story setups are starting to pay off

So uh. How do you spoiler text? Asking for a friend

>>425899 https://8chan.moe/.static/pages/posting.html

>>425915 I'm no a furry but...

>>425915 Mem sex

>>425711 Bump before going to sleep.

>>423509 It looks like she's swinging a sword down on you.

>>426290 idk with 210 speed ica is kinda constantly popping off so that can't possibly be bad

>no exposed pits shame

>>426317 Her pits are too hairy.

>Aquila seemed like a push over and died pretty quickly >Go through and theres a phase 3 >Music starts blasting when its near death Wish i could've enjoyed it more

>>426321 Evidence?

>>426335 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgCo0D1iWyk Just watch the video several times like me.

>>422151 I hope it's her pre-memory loss self and not her being possessed by something. Personality-wise I want a mix between what her original self was and the March we know. >memosprite I think it'd be funny if it was just a big eerie jellyfish, or some other kind of deep sea creature.

>>425915 Yeah shake it baby

>>425967 This feels wrong

Are any of the Castorice "Plans" worth following for DU?

>>426680 I follow all her plan when I use Casto, since I assume they are made for her.

>>426651 rachel and caleb?

>>426684 I mean there's a lot of them since they're user made I believe, just wanted to know if there's any of them worth using.

>>426680 Yeah, they're alright as a guide line if you don't know what to grab, none of them are gigabrick tier. I'd venture away from the ones using Blade as a subDPS unless yours is decently invested tho

>>426335 hyacine also has voice lines whenever you use her cut-in like with the penacony fight but I could only hear one because cas was too strong

>>427219 thats why i always play garbage teams for story fight since they are way to fast with meta teams

>Phainon is not bro-ACK https://youtu.be/Ismb95HW57c?si=2yQsm6lMHADQ1Ruo

Christ, Saber fucking sucks. Archer is way better than I expected as long as he's paired with Sparkle. Even the FSN event that gives a Saber with Eidolons fucking sucks

>>426335 always do TB quest with weak units, personaly I usually use DTB and Ice March (caemarch love btw) + any support that fits the world Fourth slot is for if someone joins during the quest.

>>427713 What a funny little guy. I even saw someone using him with biggest brick of them all, a characters that everyone has forgotten. Yukong

Oh look at this chonky thing

>>427805 nice catch a more realistic stats should be around 75 CR and 195 CDMG

Posting a new theory since the first one I made seems be kill : Mem is Cyrene but right now Mem's body is being inhabited by March's soul hence the very similar mannerisms. This happened because Cyrene is the one trying to hijack March's body, causing their souls to switch body. Cyrene is actually trying to escape Amphoreus as she's been held prisoner here for centuries by Lygus who is forcing her to use her power as an emanator of Remembrance conjointly with Rubert's Scepter to create his simulation. March being intrinsically linked to the Remembrance made for a perfect escape route. As for Lygus' motive, I would say he explained it plainly already : the path of Destruction is a mystery to everyone in the universe, and he's hoping to pierce its secret by experimenting with the imprisoned Lord Ravager, over and over like Herta with her SU. Thougts?

>>427893 i doubt lygus and cyrene are enemies, didn't seem like it in the 3.3 ending

<got lucky Hyacine early in a dream <wake up, no Hyacine early Heartshattering. Also after waking up I started the Galactic Baseballer event and Cipher's JP voice is making my Johnson the Big Johnson.

Cipher's death is so fucking cheap holy fuck. Also makes no sense because she's supposed to be smarter than this. Or at least they gave us zero context on why she would go back for the stupid thing. Just feels like they didn't know how to write her out of the ONE PATCH SHE APPEARS IN. Also the sky temple was probably the highlight of amphoreus so far, but i fell like it kinda didn't... earn its epicness? Also I still fucking hate how Shonen McProtagonist Phainon is. Pretty ok patch overall.

>>428169 I raise you this

>>428196 How about both

>>428218 deal

>herta and Screwllum appear >story becomes infinitely more interesting

>>427893 supposedly at every end of the loop, phainon is always the last person to survive and he persists into the next loop as the flame reaver, only to be defeated by that loop's phainon, whom would then survive into the next loop and repeat the process. I think the flame reaver is a phainon who realized the truth of the world, that it was lygus's experiment, so he tries to stop the cycle by sabotaging the flame-chase only to fall to his newer version. that said, how is the new phainon always stronger than the last? like some kind of new game+. I think that the prison of amphoreus is starting to show it's cracks and that every new phainon just get a little more of his lord ravager power back.

>>428234 >3.0 - herta is a bumbling buffoon that failed during her big moment because she left the door unlocked >3.2 - lygus rebuffs herta, once again making her look like a retard >3.3 - herta runs to screwllum so he can carry her ass against lygus, so yet again she looks like a fucking clown shitter Really it's just Screwllum.

>>428261 But that's why i like it. It's like sparkle in 2.x. Need SOMETHING to break up all the seriousness.

yay

God damn i feel pretty bad for space barbara now, i thought she would just be stuck like castorice

>>428440 I mean they're all getting resetted soon anyway.

>>428440 ok thats worse than death wtf man

>>428440 She doesn't deserve that.

>>428440 What the fuck, now that's just depressing. Can't believe that flew over my head the first time. I just want Phainon to reset things quickly so she won't suffer anymore - Hyacine deserves better.

>>428158 She was running laps around Flame Stealer the whole time, but she overestimated her abilities and got careless.

>>428570 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAPo1dgrHms

>>428950 >Do not reupload my art

e1 space barbruh or e2 kuru kuru pro max?

>>429227 Hyacine love

>>429481 thats a nice design, hopefully her animations will be good too

>>429481 >Cerydra wind harmony So is she not for March then? I guess her best team is just RMC/Cyrene/Hyacine

>>429481 >hebe Goddammit, I might give Cerydra a 50/50 after all...

>>429481 why the pink heart besides March

>>429526 I love Hebe rail, I hope he's not bullshitting. >>429561 idk, I assume it's just a quirk of him like how homdg shoves Yunli into every post ever.

>>429481 >hebe model Pls be usable on teams other than phainon i am begging you old friend dawei

>>428169 >>428196 >>428218 >>428230 I will sex both of them soon

>>426686 >rachel and caleb? their EN VAs

>>429753 Its funny that they joined an unofficial boycott against hoyo to not get replaced by Ai, but they forgot that they can be replaced by humans instead

>>429753 >en vas i wish hoyo games had a proper en dub, all of them sound very amateurish

Hyacine living rent free in my head

>>429642 RM/Robin/Tribbie/Sunday get passed around on a bunch of teams besides their intended one so Cerydra should be similar. Not sure about Sparkle because I don't know much about her

>>429881 Tribbie getting passed around like a cheap onahole....

>>429902 Isnt she like 10?

>>429914 Out of 10!

>>429914 10 year olds are sexy.

>>428261 Price to pay for being forever unplayable

>>429950 They're really not

>>430057 Sry typo meant to write hot mb

>>430057 Good thing that the Holy Maiden of Janusopolis is around 1060 years old then and stands as the oldest demigod so she can be classified as sexy.

>>430074 Having the physique of a Democrat supporting child makes her the opposite of sexy

>>430094 >Flamechasers are democrats I see.

I remember when Simulated Universe used to be hard Now my entire team has over 10k HP and heals themselves when it

>>429642 If its true that she does Energy Regen stuff then she'll fit in with Saiba

>>430450 That would be awesome i was waiting for another support that recharges energy since i dont want to roll chicken wing man

>>430450 Wasn't it Cyrene that was supposed to do that? For Phainon an energy regen support would only be good if she was like "give 1 energy teamwide every time an ally takes a turn"

>>428440 jesus christ so are those scrolls we find at the destroyed eye of twillight the mass of souls talking together? also explains why the ohkema scrolls talk about hyacine hopefully not going mad...

Is Phainon's set useful for anyone else or can I salvage everything if I'm not planning to roll him? >>430436 G&G was the most fun I've ever had in the game...

>>430628 I think its good on saber too if you wait with her ult until her turn begins

>>430653 Salvaging it is I guess since I'm most likely not rolling for the collab either

I feel like showcase fags just treat the game like it's not a gacha. Like yeah, why wouldn't you use Tribbie in PF, why wouldn't you use Sunday with Saber, of course they all have their sigs too, why would you use hertacones or BP cones or whatnot? Which just doesn't make sense when you need to have above average luck just to own half of the limited characters at E0S0. In the same way 0-cycle fags are like "do you really not have S15 DDD and four Eagle sets with 160 speed and perfect crit stats?". There's one guy I found that does a lot of various showcases on 3.x characters with different levels of relatability and his (her?) username is fucking PhainonSimp. Kinda makes me want to set up a private server to test shit myself, but I'm afraid free access to every character and infinite god relics would make logging into my real bum ass account feel like shit

Two of the most important finals in my entire academic career are happening tomorrow so I have to pull either an Anaxa or Qingque as a personality for them. See you the day after tomorrow, anons.

>>431292 adult kot is hot but hebe kot is nice too

>>431299 >See you the day after tomorrow, anons No. See you tomorrow.

>>431295 i feel the same, it's getting silly it doesn't help when hoyo pushes this narrative

>>431295 Don't give yourself perfect relics then and just mimic the ones you have on live. The appeal of a private server is testing out stuff without hurting your real acc or testing viability. Though for HSR, I just roll based on design. If it uses the girl model or the loli model then i'm going to blindly roll without looking and if it goes above then I'll consider a lot of factors like if I like their design, story, how viable they are, etc etc.

>>431295 they're just showing what people want to see. you know people request "do this X lineup next" all the time right? feeding what people want to see gets them views and youtube money. if anything i'd say it's a reflection of the playerbase

>>431295 I've seen a smattering of no sig, low cost showcases such as no Sunday with Seibah, full 4* lineups and so on Of course not all of them show the relics they have equipped so it should always be taken with a pinch of salt but showcases are in my mind primarily a way to look at how the character plays. They aren't gospel and especially with how early we are in the beta they are bound to differ from the live release. At which point you'll be beholden to the usual suspects for demos of the freshly released characters naturally. But since I HAVE been pretty lucky I DO in fact have lots of signatures. My rolling mistakes lie elsewhere but I roll primarily on the ruleset of 'does this tickle my fancy?' f2p true btw

>>431295 the problem started with E2 acheron and the harmony path after all, they really need to decrease the HP inflation, at least they are trying now with phainon and buffing the 1.X characters, is a good first step <do you really not have S15 DDD and four Eagle sets with 160 speed that was always the cope argument towards the flaws of hsr endgame.

>>431435 If you're aiming for a 3-star then I feel like you can clear with whatever pretty easily. The HP inflation only starts presenting itself when you're trying to 0-cycle or do low cycle clears. MoC might honestly be the reason why everyone thinks HSR has the worst powercreep because people feel like shit for clearing with a lot of cycles but nobody complains if they clear with only 2 seconds left in the other games since their total time isn't displayed so a clear is a clear.

the should just frontload the gems reward to moc9-11. make moc12 for dickswinging no reward contests only. the bellyaching about hp inflation will go away overnight.

Hyacute!

I just 2 star MoC 12 from time to time and move on with my day

>>431512 I don't know about that, some people are so bad at the game that they make you weep for the retarded. One of the guys I know whaled for all sorts of things like E2 Castorice, E1 JQ, E1 Robin, E6 Acheron and was whining about not being able to 0-cycle MoC. At that point it's severe skill issues and not a game problem.

>>431381 No way noone requested running Redman without Sparkle, I've only seen a single showcase with I think RMC Tribbie Gally and that was today. >>431391 There are some, but few and far between, the majority are cookie cutter comps with barely any deviation from the obvious BiS team. Or they have private server tier relic builds. >>431452 >If you're aiming for a 3-star then I feel like you can clear with whatever pretty easily. I guess, but so much of it hinges on relics. I have full premium teams for Feixiao and Rappa, plus copium Castorice and the only endgame I've ever full cleared is PF last rotation. MoC11, PF 10~11/12 and AS 11/12 are a breeze, but those last few stars are exponentially harder, minus PF which feels extremely enemy lineup dependant with my teams

>>431570 Feixiao side 1 and Castorice side 2 should be able to clear MOC12 though. Did you grab Tribbie and Hyacine for Castorice? Her team feels extremely overpowered for me with those two honestly.

>>431588 >Feixiao side 1 and Castorice side 2 I should probably try that, I did hear Pollux is hard to 0c but forgiving to 5 cycle with most teams. >Did you grab Tribbie and Hyacine Tribbie no and never, trying to get Cinny now but I'll just save for Cipher if I fail the 50/50 Also forgot to mention I have Anaxa too but he feels unusable with E0 Bronya even though I somehow got a S+ build on him

>>431639 Hyacine is great for Castorice and is her best in slot sustain so you should seriously try your best to get her at least at E0S0. If you have a hateboner for Tribbie for some reason then you can replace her for Ruan Mei but you should really try to get Tribbie too on a rerun since she's amazing for Amphoreus teams. You have to always remember that Honkai: Star Rail wants to sell you teams and wants you to focus on teams so focusing on teams YOU want is the key to beating the endgame rather than just grabbing random meta characters here and there because they were good. Team synergy should be the priority and strengthening the teams you personally like. Like for example, if you want to run Anaxa then get his premium team members and LC then roll his team and if you want to run Castorice then Tribbie and Hyacine do wonders for her team. If you go and for example end up rolling Aglaea without Sunday, Castorice E0S0 without her teammates and E0S0 Anaxa with no one to support him then of course you're going to struggle so you should plan to get a character you like then build around them to make them stronger and suddenly getting the 3-stars is trivial. And if you don't know who's good with who or want to test out teams then you can use the private server you mentioned above, replicate your relics on the live server and test out what works or who works until you have a clear idea and a solid plan of where you want to go or who you want to roll for because rolling without a plan is how you end with a bunch of half-assed teams that have no synergy together. Hopefully you can find or figure out some teams that make you happy and start clearing those endgame stages easily.

HOLY brick

>>431789 They didn't even give her 170 SPD or her cone!

>>431452 >If you're aiming for a 3-star then I feel like you can clear with whatever pretty easily. I concur; I do retarded shit and it even works sometimes

>>431758 >If you have a hateboner for Tribbie for some reason I don't, she's aight, but still probably my second least favourite Amphorean after Phainon, and I think her animations are too silly for their own good, don't fit my gameplay and don't represent how they were in the story. >You have to always remember that Honkai: Star Rail wants to sell you teams and wants you to focus on teams so focusing on teams YOU want is the key to beating the endgame rather than just grabbing random meta characters here and there because they were good. I will never pull for meta, 1 pull per month isn't worth it when I'm already having troubling making ends meet while getting every character I like. Thankfully for how cockblocky HSR teambuilding can be there's very rarely pivotal characters that are just mandatory to make teams feel fun. Tribbie's buffs are all generic so Castorice can play with RM too, Cipher should also be able to work even if she won't record RMC's TRVE damage. Guess Sunday's in my plans more for meta than for sovl, but I don't dislike him (though I sure did when reading 2.2) >If you go and for example end up rolling Aglaea without Sunday, Castorice E0S0 without her teammates and E0S0 Anaxa with no one to support him then of course you're going to struggle so you should plan to get a character you like then build around them to make them stronger and suddenly getting the 3-stars is trivial. Weren't you just saying it's pretty easy to 3-star clear with whatever?

>>431819 >170 SPD? what does she need all that spd for?

>>431903 Why are you so fast when your fat pony is at 0?

>>431922 to outrun the powercreep

>>431903 To steal.

>>431903 To sneak in sex in between turns.

what's castorice's absolute BiS team?

>>432061 In this context Tribbie Hyacine and probably RMC since I understand that Sunday is kinda suboptimal

>>432061 rmc, hyacine, tribber she doesn't need action advance as much as people think she does and people underestimate trve damage from rmc

>>432061 RMC and hyacine

>>432071 >>432089 Another usually overlooked thing is that RMC is providing an extra body to heal in the form of mem. You're giving your healer (Hyacine) an extra body to heal which means more dragon charge.

>>432089 >people underestimate trve damage from rmc My favorite thing I learned from these threads is that you can slap the RMC buff on two people if you want at the same time. Which is questionably useful but can lead to funny things with characters like Jade or Robin. Now if only I had Fugue in case I want to run superbrick

Why did they make the sex cat so bad....

>>432671 Furry game is a few doors down

>>432786 Yeah but our sex cat is actually sex without the furry.

>>433507 Nobody wants to fuck Mem

>>431789 my cute brick wife

Madam Herta is so sexy...

>No Physical DPS >No FuA team >No Super Break team This side 2 was a nightmare.

>>434074 ok herta

>>434074 Madam Herta is a peerless gem!

>>434075 I got 9/12 11 hours ago and didn't bother with AS4 yet I'm going to try something retarded again like Anaxa Jade RMC for first half and I can already tell it will go badly

>>431789 the brick that carried amphoreus btw

>>434209 so if I understood correctly, her lie helped amphorius hold way longer than written? With her being all "if enough people beliving a lie it becomes reality"

>>434217 Yes, her power alone extended the Dawn Device's functionality for an extra 700 years since the thing was only going to last for another 300 years since she overheard the deadline.

>>434233 wdym her power? You mean the trickster god did it?

>>434240 Yeah, that's what I meant. It's essentially the trickster god's power, but the lie was only maintained since Cipher was the source. When FR killed her the device immediately turned off (remember Zagreus was still around as Bartholos until near the end).

>>434250 Christ

Anyone else already finished AS? that side 2 does some insane damage only Firefly and Fugue were alive at the end could have scored some more points easily if i tried more i think

>>434551 about to start it right now

>>434551 Weakness breaking giving Fei the full 12 charges on her ult just let's her roll over kafka.

>>434551 why not bring a healer? Don't tell me you skipped Lingspud?

>>434566 i have the spud but i was thinking sustainless will be fine but it really wasnt problem is you cant edit team 2 without doing stage one again will probably try another attempt when Cipher is out

>>434551 Here >>434075, side 2 was suffering

>>434576 yeah side 2 feels like you really need a healer unless you can break the dinosaur before he can do anything

>>434582 Not having anything that plays well with the blessings hurt more than anything else tbh. Gallagher kept the bird twins alive rather well.

>put it on auto >watch youtube >collect gems my favorite kind of endgame

What's the prophecy for Trailblazer again when TB became the Time Demigod? Or did TB not get any prophecy from Tribbie?

I mean, a clear's a clear right?

I don't really understand which characters blazar is for, any tips?

>>434960 blazar is for tanks because it accumulates on dmg taken based on max HP. It inflicts dmg to ennemies when they attack you (how it works by default). Blessings tend to increase the blazar charge and even allow you to deal blazar dmg during ur attacks

>>434757 Is Anaxa supposed to be SIlver Wolf but better?

>>435002 not after the 3.4 buffs

>>435002 no he doesn't res down, but he allows off element and deals bonkers damage when there is only on enemy on the field

I'm so impatient for Dark March, I feel like a child

This is the Nice Line. Nobody will be called a brick underneath this line. --------------------------------------------------Nice Line----------------------------------------

Heyabrick bricked my entire brick account.

>>435122 I am bricked up because of Hyacine

>>435115 I pulled Hyacine on the assumption that March will want the a full remembrance team so i just hope and pray they dont 180 on that.

First attempt, could really improve the score on Castorice even without Cinny, also Feifei once again proves herself to be the queen of AS

Fresh Cerydra info

>>435620 >Queen character with girl model >She's designed to literally only work with Paimon no............................

>>435620 yup skipping sunday's rerun

>>435620 Buff for 1 turn actually doesn't sound that bad if her gimmick is giving extra turns in place of AA, but unfortunately half of the characters in the game have their own 100% AA gimmicks, including Saber. One character I can see her working perfectly with is Boothill, he only cares about action value and BE

>>435663 If she gives extra turns then you could use it on Castorice's dragon I guess before blowing it up? It wouldn't matter if it's 1 turn only since Castorice's dragon explodes anyway >>435660 I want Honkai Furina to be as good as Genshin Furina, she deserves it.

>>435620 Rice synergy!!!!!!!!!!

>>435620 good for aglaea. <another S1 bait is the norm at this point.

>>435620 that ult seems pretty goddamn useless, i wonder if they're gonna change it remember that tribbie's ult used to be 180 and she didn't have an energy trace lol

>Phainon He asserts dominance not just in his shilled MoC, but also on previous MoC that help buff everyone, with extremely easy, comfortable gameplay. But there is a pattern: those bosses required PURE DMG AND SURVIVABILITY. The moment there is a mechanic that prevent him from putting any meaningful progress during his ult, you saw that happened. His AS and PF's performance isn't looking too bright either. Yes, he has Cerydra coming, but that doesn't solve his major problem of not having teammates for half of the time. What he needs is a way to lower his ult cost somehow to allow his teammates more screen time, but I could understand if they choose not to do that and make him a casual-centric unit like Firefly, in which case, too bad. Just remember: mhy has the habit of releasing an overtuned female version of a male DPS a few patches later. Given Cyrene is another domain user, you can see the flag here. >Saber Simple, but effective, with a little bit of leeway for optimization. Currently she is the most effective standalone 3.4 unit across all 3 endgame modes. I don't mind her staying that way with a bit more buff in number. >Archer The most fun 3.4 unit for me. Absolutely ridiculous skill ceiling. He doesn't just vacuum the leftover supports, he elevates them and put their names on the highest vertical single-target dmg team. They often make hunt units really good cuz they're by nature not casual friendly so I hope the trend repeats. I can still see him perform decently well in PF, AS and AoE MoC with the right setting, buff. Give him 200 mana ult and 3 FuA per ult and he's the new Feixiao. >SW A favorite child of Hoyo and they're clearly not shy showing that. Having a Nihility competing against Harmony for a BiS in any team other than Acheron is diabolical. Her amp is insane, with decent solo DPS potential. If it stays that way, we'll have the biggest winner of 3.4. Give her the ability to add bug that's not currently on the enemies then she's perfection. >Kafka A very interesting change, focus on frequency to deal dmg. Although nothing too crazy right now, Hysilens is right around the corner and who know? Maybe DoT'll be great again. Can't judge how good these changes are until then. Maybe give her another amp in the form of debuff to further solidify her driver role. >JL and Blade HP scaler without the ability to do BIG dmg out of turn is a big no no because atk scalers have Robin. Individually, they're better, but when put into a team, there is hardly any change. JL specifically feels worse. I don't think there is any hope of saving them if they just focus on the number.

>>435716 Sounds atrocious for Aglaea, she gets a gorillion turns and without Domingo half of them will be without Garmentmaker

>>435620 So their intention is make her only work with Phainon and no one else. Too bad, guess I'll just get the Kot and Hysilens.

3.4 buffed character trial teams Silver Wolf: Acheron, Cipher, Aventurine Kafka: Black Swan, Ruan Mei, Huohuo Blade: RMC, Tribbie, Hyacine Jingliu: Sunday, Tribbie, Hyacine

>>436010 forgot to mention source is luna

>>436010 >no fucking 4* or budget team Holy shit Mihomo

>>435772 Some 0 cycle speed-tuning autists can probably make her work with anyone like Yukong but for normal players yeah.

>>435752 yea im excited for archer. shame the buffs to jingliu were so mid

>>435423 Nice, third try, just needed to line up weakness breaks better

>>435752 >Just remember: mhy has the habit of releasing an overtuned female version of a male DPS a few patches later. When has that ever happened minus Dr. Ratio being replaced by Feixiao in RRAT?

>>431789 Her animations are super fun and she's so hot but jesus i was not impressed by this trial lol

>>436010 JQ bros notlikethis...

>>436026 Thanks......

>>436188 think they're referring to castorice/mydei and maybe ff/boothill a lot of people say that ff is a brick these days and there might be some truth to it, but ff still has lower cost clears for all the recent amphoreus bosses than boothill

>>436385 My firefly feels so fucking bad every time I use her so I'd believe that she's more of brickfly these days. I regret the rolls I made on her and wish I could have put them towards literally anyone else since the other DPS characters of that version aged way better than her. I just need to wait for a new DPS chara that I like and want to build around then focus on them to have 2 good teams and forget brickfly ever existed. Phainon is kinda tempting and might grab his E0S0 if I get desperate but I don't want to roll for male.

>>436409 >Needs E2 >Needs Lingsha >Needs Ruan Mei >Needs Fugue E1 >Needs her cone Firefly is too high maintenance for me. This is why I left that needy girl for Castorice that just wants her cone and Hyacine.

>>436397 idk i think you're going to get scammed again, phainon looks like firefly electric boogaloo where the base kit sucks and you have to roll the e2

>>436385 Castorice and Mydei play differently, some of their supports don't synergise with the other that well, or they can just be played on the same team using their mutual BiS Tribbie. FF and Boothill also play differently, FF doesn't use any AA supports and BH has a higher performance ceiling at lower investment. Though you could say Rappa powercrept SAM kek

>>436422 <needs lingsha <needs fugue e1 how much of an upgrade are those two over gallagher and hmc?

>>436397 Phainon has the same deceptive design as Firefly, except he won't only need E2 and Cerydra down the line but also S1. He'll work if you want to just roll a new DPS to auto clear endgame every half year I guess

>>436439 i wouldn't consider 6 cost high investment but sure. and most dpses play differently to some extent, so the point is moot if you want to argue minute differences like how both ff and boothill still require aa supports, just that for ff, the aa is on a lightcone. ratio doesn't even run dual dps like feixiao anymore, you just run him as a generic hypercarry now

>>436457 Fugue E1 is massive for any break team because she gives 50% WBE and toughness bars are continuously inflating

>>436457 E1 Fugue is just an extra 50% WBE and allows you to replace Ruan Mei if you want. Lingsha is just a better gallagher in every way except sp printing

>>436473 >>436483 so if i were to get one of them itd be fugue right? what does tingyun need besides e1 in that break team?

>>436491 Just a lot of speed, BE and pearls. She's fairly easy to build and doesn't need a whole lot. You don't even need E1 for her to be better than HMC but it is a pretty big boost in power

>>436517 can you use both her and hmc or do the buffs fall off?

>>436527 They stack together, it's why you see a lot of firefly runs that run both and kick out the healer

>>436527 You can use both, as the other anon said they stack.

>>436534 >>436538 then i might pick her up on a rerun if next planets stuff doesnt interest me

>>436527 Superbreak is maybe the only team that's been viable to run sustainless casually because of how much Fugue, HMC and RM delay the enemies together, but it's also starting to get way harder

>>436557 >this AS Man, i cant wait until i get sunday so i can put TB back on her proper team. this felt like fucking dogshit

>>436019 they totally gave up on 4* kinda wish they would buff 4* too

>>436019 >>436156 good job but i'm surprised you're so low with feixiao when you have robin and e1 topaz, what happened? i managed to get 3500 with rmc so i'm kinda puzzled

>>435122 >>435102 hyasex

>>436643 really? this looks like a good clear to me

>>436811 I have a difficult relationship with the Valorous relic domain

>>436854 jezas you did really well all things considered kek

>>436912 >Young girl character >80% of the fanart draws her bigger and thicker than Aglaea for some reason I hate artists

>>435752 i know its mihoyos thing to release full teams now but i hope dan heng and cerydra are usable outside of phainon teams

>>436019 they need to fix the old limited characters first.

>>437298 AI will soon replace the bad artists that can't draw any on-model character to save their lives